Why do American people hate public life support system such as Obamacare?

Why do American people hate public life support system such as Obamacare?
It's unreasonable.
If it works effectively, we don't have to care whether it's public or private.

kill yourself with the fake broken accent weeb faggot

>If it works effectively
L bloody MAO
Nippon confirmed for 0 economic sense

>If it works effectively,

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>Why do American people hate public life support system such as Obamacare

Costs too much

Why is he doing this by executive order? Is congress too scared to touch Obongocare?

>If it works effectively,

>obamacare is the only option

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I think it's just the mandate portion. Maybe to get it done before people are fined on their federal tax returns, I don't know.

Because only working white middle class pays for it.

>Why do American people hate public life support system such as Obamacare?
>If it works effectively
>If

You answered your own question.

This

Middle class is holding this country up, but hurting.

Because my money shouldn't pay for Pedro's 12 children and cousins.

Obamacare/ACA isn't the problem, its a symptom of the real problem: Chargemasters and hospital pricing.

A box of gauze shouldn't be $30 dollars, nor a aspirin $25.

>If it works effectively, we don't have to care whether it's public or private.
Pretending like it matters is half of what the modern GOP is based on
>can't use government to help people because of muh creeping totalitarianism
>uh-oh, a terror attack, let's institute mass surveillance!
The other half is hating niggers btw. But the bigger half is just greedy fucks who will say anything.

Not white, but upper middle class, and i support this message

Because we're such a multiculturalism society that all the niggers leach off our socialist programs.

That's why.

Most americans support it but most americans hate the name "obamacare."

Trump will rebrand obamacare while keeping the main policies but change its name in order to keep everyone happy.

Obamacare will still exist but the right will be happy because it has a non-nigger name and the left will be happy because they will think they won a battle even though the whole thing was started by Romney, a repub.

So if we got the rich to pay, you'd be in favor?

>Why do American people hate public life support system such as Obamacare?

because it hands money out to companies without fair pricing

it shovels tax money into a fire when simple negotiation could bring our costs down to the levels European nations enjoy

This. I think repealing it day is kind of irresponsible since we have no better solution, but something has to be fucking done.

I'm all for a single payer system IF it can be effective, but I know that in our current system it never fucking will be. And even the optimal systems have their own caveats.

I understand why it's hard for a Jap to understand. You live in a country with your own people. Not supporting them would be like not supporting your own family.

We live with leaching niggers. Fuck them.

Leech*

Wtf are you talking about? I dont expect the rich to pay my house or car payments. Why would i expect those faggots to pay my medical bills?

>we have no better solution

remove government imposed monopoly by allowing all drugs to be sold over the counter, 1 year patent only no matter the drug type, no copyright protection after 1 year, for anything, public domain after 1 year

Public option or nothing. Health insurance is a fucking scam and must be destroyed.

desu I think the copyright and patent shit is a good start.

I don't know what Trump is planning though

Easy for you to say, chink. How many niggers and spics do you have to support?

Do you like the way the country's been going? Maybe letting massive wealth become concentrated while wages stagnate isn't in your best interest, either?

Or are you too narrow-minded to see what's going on?

I hope you don't have any kids, because I can basically guarantee you're not rich enough to keep them safe from the society you're creating.

does this mean i dont have to pay that stupid fucking penalty on my taxes this year?

the affordable care act did not make care affordable, it just shuffled money around so that obama flunkies got leverage on liberal votes. they never asked anyone to cut costs for scans or medicine and just threw increased taxes at the deficit. it's not surprising that it failed.

And now that i think about it, the wealthy dont pay my food or electric bill, so why should i pay an exagerated amount to support laquisha and her 12 kids, because shed rather get welfare than work. You know some people pay only pay 5 doolars of rent, because of section 8, and still get help getting their bills paid

you want to talk about unreasonable?

how about a law written by insurance company lobbyists, that was signed by a bunch of faggots that didn't even read it, but forced it onto everyone execpt themselves, just so they could run to the nearest TV cameras and brag about "finally passing comprehensive health care reform".

>Can now get denied for pre-existing conditions once again
>Lifetime and yearly maxes are back
>USA will go back to leading the industrialized first world in preventable deaths

But hey, you got to see liberals meltdown on twitter, that's a fair trade off right?

In Japan almost national people can see a doctor by 30% of self payment
by grace of national health insurance.
It lasts for decades.
It's too early to give up Obamacare.

Two things:
Complete Chargemaster pricing transparency
Pricing controls

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I hate the idea of forcing people to pay for other peoples problems. A fully capable person who is shitty with money and incompetent enough to not save some form of currency to pay for life saving treatments deserves to fuck off. With that said the american health system is fucked. Prices are to high for simple things because of greedy kikes. The United States needs a strong leader to butt fuck hospitals and the people that supply hospitals with medical equipment into submissions for being cunts and gouging peoples wallets. The solution to outrageous medical costs is not getting the government to foot the bill. It is to fix the problem at it source by making the costs of hospital supplies cheaper and operations cheaper.

I'm getting nailed this tax season for about 1K or more for the penalty of not having coverage this past year. Gotta contribute to the ACA, right guys?

.....lol... ...

Whats it like not having to spend any money on a military because the US will protect you? Fucking gook.

That's the problem, it's not effective. It spikes costs, while lowering the quality of treatment. No one hates working healthcare, but the ACA doesn't work.

This is a decent idea.

its shit desu

You should take a serious look at what the middle class actually have to pay
It's the same here, the entire system is dying because immigration and med tourism

>If it works effectively,
there the problem it doesn't work

Unfortunately that would allow research to a crawl. We'll need to subsidize research and manufacturing if drugs like we do corn.

I hate, niggers, spics, and all illegals more than anything now. Just fucking die. All of you. Die

>I hate the idea of forcing people to pay for other peoples problems

So you hate health insurance in general? How do you think health insurance works? The money the company gets in premiums from healthy people is used to pay for treatment for sick people, that's the basic model of every health insurance company on earth.

Fuck off. Im from the bottomof the rung. I know what poorer than dirt poor is. I stidied and worked hard to be able to live comfortably and provide for my family. This is America, hard work and determination and anything is possible. Ive seen the both outcomes of poverty. Stop bitching about social economics and the oppression of the poor by the wealthy. Be part of the solution, not part of the problem

There should be no threat of the IRS being involved if you don't want healthcare.

Giving more powers to the IRS just pisses people off since the IRS should not be involved with healthcare in anyway

>Why do American people hate public life support system such as Obamacare?

Brainwashing by Big Pharma and insurance companies.

>I am a fully capable person who is shitty with money and incompetent when it comes to making life decisions and I dont think everyone else should pay for my bullshit .

>Obamacare
>public support system

you foolish little Nip

How.

No, allow patents to stay the way they are. Reform the shit out of the FDA so they don't keep pharmaceutical researchers from producing new medication due to the ridiculous process and all the hoops they have to jump through today.

This. Just more shit that they can force upon us.

Then why is Paul Ryan trying to destroy Medicare?

>it worked for me so it must be fine
Seriously retarded desu

Protip: when all the wealth is concentrated in the hands of a few billionaires you can't have a democracy anymore.

Even then, no matter how shitty things become, there will be some people who do OK and say the exact same stupid shit you're saying.

>Reform the shit out of the FDA so they don't keep pharmaceutical researchers from producing new medication due to the ridiculous process and all the hoops they have to jump through today.

The FDA is basically run by drug companies. What are you talking about?

This. What we need is a public option. Fuck this policy calculus shit. I want health care, not health insurance.

American doctors are also the most greediest doctors in the world.

Plenty of foreign educated doctors in America only here because America pays their doctors higher salaries while in their original country, they don't get paid as much.

Money is the issue here

If I was in charge, I would Militarize the Medical Field.

Make any newly graduated doctor have to serve the public for free for several years before being honorably discharged to do whatever they want in return for free medical school and free housing.

Doctors should be treated like soldiers in my opinion.

"Works effectively"

A lot of people making 20-40k are paying $2-300 a month for healthcare that has a $3500 deductible meaning that the only time you are going to use it is if you are going to die. So now people are paying 3-4k for a service they will never use except to get 1 yearly visit where they turn and cough.

The thing that pissed me off about the ACA was the fact that you are required to get health insurance or else you are forced to pay a fine at the end of the year.

A family member of mine is having to shell out 140+ a month for shitty insurance with a sky high deductible because that was the cheapest available in the "affordable" care act.

Thankfully my job offers health insurance for like 100 a month so I dont have to worry about the fine but that is still 1200 a year for insurance that I have never used and wont be useful to me until I get my arm ripped off.

If the MANDATORY part and getting fined part were removed it would be better.

Big ones. Not the smaller start ups with some new formula for a new drug that is 20x cheaper to make than the longstanding competition. Those are the ones getting fucked.

Remember the Shkreli outrage? Other companies had drugs at far cheaper prices than him but due to the regulation from the FDA couldn't get them on the market.

Liberalize medicine. Currently it is way too difficult for many doctors who haven't been trained in the US to practice medicine here. Change that and doctors will have to lower their ridiculous expectations regarding payment in order to get customers.

Big pharmaceutical and insurance companies are the main profiteers of obamacare though...

>there are people like OP who say nothing is wrong with obamacare yet have NO idea what it actually is doing
You're retarded.

Do you even know HOW all of those new people are getting free healthcare?

YOU.

All of us.

We all have to foot the bill to pay for some homeless idiot who can't stop drinking and doing drugs or retards who develop diabetes and eat like shit even when instructed not to.

It does not work because premiums for everyone else go up to pay for the poor shitters who can't afford it.

>Thinking the republicans will ever implement a public option

Yeah, no, im not trusting pedro to operate on me

>"Liberalize"
You mean, like deregulate? Open up to the free market?

Most of our tax dollars fund health insurance bureaucracy.

You know the people who just punch numbers in for health insurance billing paperwork because so many annoying codes and loopholes insurance companies come up with.

Like you know the term Cosmetic?

Health Insurance companies came up with that term so they can decide that your surgical procedure that you want is too cosmetic so they won't to pay for it.

I guess a good example would be Dental Implants.

A lot of people have bad teeth.

The dentist says Dental Implants would really help but when people find out their dental insurance says they won't pay for it because they consider dental implants as cosmetic more than medically necessary, most patients just opt to pull out the whole tooth in the end and missing teeth in your mouth can really fuck with your jaw over the years since teeth can actually move around you know. That is how braces work after all, by encouraging the movement of teeth.

So yeah, dental implants actually help maintain proper placement of your teeth in your mouth but dental insurance companies claim that you just want to have a good smile so they won't pay for it.

Sucks huh, but is the truth. Even worst than health insurance is dental and eye insurance.

According to insurance companies, your eyes and teeth aren't part of your body. They are separate things.

>Do you even know HOW all of those new people are getting free healthcare?
> free healthcare?

Who's getting free healthcare? Do you even know anything about obamacare other than what your parents tell you? Go to bed kid.

Why not? It's not like they don't have plenty of corpses to study on down there.

Seriously, it's all pretty standard and well-documented.

obamacare is not a national healthcare, it just forces people to subscribe to a healthcare or pay penalty and people who can't pay for it are subsidized by people who can

you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the issue

More like America purposely limits the amount of medical schools so there can only be so many medical students in America.

That doctor organization I forgot the name of maintains med school limits so doctors can maintain their salary levels.

>tfw i opted in to works healthcare finally because this was $700 year
>decent plan spend twice that, figuring memes would just be dreams, fair amount of money considering fucking already get taxed to shit
>the trumpening happens
>i could have gone on a nice vacation and then paid for a reason catastrophic that doesnt cover shit like the pill and trannys getting their dick cut off plan for all of next year with that money

RREEEEEEEEEEE

Eugenics, my friend.

Pedro would have to complete a short (1 year) paid residency before coming to the US.

Correct. Basically do what the US did to its blue collar workers via trade agreements. By increasing foreign competition we can drive down healthcare costs.

You wanted real change right? Well heres real change folks. Lots of people get to die so the few can afford the new Nintendo.

because their idea to fix healthcare was to make everyone buy insurance or face a fine -- excuse me, just a tax :^)

Even as a liberal Obamacare made no one happy because it just enslaved us to privately run, for-profit companies who obviously would eventually figure out how to shift the economic burden of crap like "pre-existing conditions" changes back onto the consumer. In the end it was basically a public option except the government picked up the tab for the most expensive cases and the for-profit companies could still gobble up the most profitable cases for themselves.

I wonder how many conservatives would support a public option or instead the model where healthcare companies are forced into being nonprofits. Even when obamacare was going through the political ringer public polled extremely well - it was just political poison.

no
medical care and products cost to much

imbecile

It's completely reasonable.
The monopoly the ACA provides is not only mandatory to pay into, but specifically makes upper lower class people and middle class people suffer higher bill costs.

This only helps non-taxpayers.

You forgot the men portion of that

>If it works effectively
You just answered your own question, Hitachi.

The current implementation of the ACA is a fucking nightmare and needs to be repealed. People are just pissed cos Trump is doing it.

that does nothing to combat the comedy of price gouging of medical services and products

they don't want to pay for Shaniquas 9th birth while her brother his having bullets pulled out his leg so he can go shoot another nigger.

Boomers are fucking leeches that's why good for nothing bags of flesh who are useless at everything

>The monopoly the ACA provides is not only mandatory to pay into, but specifically makes upper lower class people and middle class people suffer higher bill costs.


Do you understand how insurance works? Seriously I don't think you have the slightest idea how Obamacare works.

The fact that these faggot amerifats do not have some sort of socialist healthcare system shows just how retarded they are....not inly that but they also do not have a pensions fund,you have to save.money in a private fund and if the company colapses....america fuck yeah the land were you can starve after working your ass off your entire life.Amerilards also.support these things,just to show how retarded and brainwashed they are.

Penalties aren't optional, fuckhead

Just let the fat fucks drop dead.

I voted Trump but one thing that I don't particularly like about American culture is the "me" aspect. I seriously don't mind paying taxes for better public transportation, better infrastructure, better healthcare, etc. But many Americans have this mindset as to why should they have to pay for leeches to the system, which is reasonable, since I used to live next to a Section 8 nigger family, who was ghetto as fuck, and my building couldn't discriminate. So I understand that it is infuriating to pay to make life easier for gibs me dats. Yet the number of people taking advantage of the system is relatively small and I don't see why we should deprive our health and greater good just cause in the back of our heads we know that our hard earned cash is going to nigs or Pacos.

>According to insurance companies, your eyes and teeth aren't part of your body. They are separate things.

Thats because the fields of medicine of optometry and dentistry aren't part of MD/DO studies you fucking mouth breathing retard.

I bet you think podiatry is part of internal med too dipshit

fuck yourself jap cunt

If there were some way of administering high quality, affordable healthcare, I'd be all for it. Loading people up with token junk health care plans (that they still have to pay for, mind you) in order to say that they're insured and to avoid paying a penalty isn't making healthcare affordable.

>being so inept at saving money that you need your big government to do it

>implying I want to give even a sixpence to useless shits like that

How much do meriturds pay for a MRI?

I lost my insurance plan thanks to obamacare back in 2012.
I have yet to buy insurance because obamacare made my insurance costs triple.
Please remove obamacare Mr. Trump.