Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
"S-socialism doesn't work..!" Says increasingly nervous businessman for the 70th time this year
Blake Scott
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Ryder Gomez
>(((((Communism)))))
Good goy.
Matthew Thompson
yep.
Charles Brown
Daily reminder that communism is dead, will stay dead, and it's utopia won't ever come to existance.
Brayden Wood
>no arguments Opinion discarded.
Evan Hughes
stfu already.
there is no freedom in a state regulated socialist country.
grow up.
Matthew Miller
Stalinist Socialism =/= socialism
>Taking what he is saying out of context >not reading the rest
fuck off.
SAYS INCREASINGLY NERVOUS PORKY
Jeremiah Wright
A communist society would free individuals from long working hours by first automating production to an extent that the average length of the working day is reduced and second by eliminating the exploitation inherent in the division between workers and owners. A communist system would thus free individuals from alienation in the sense of having one's life structured around survival (making a wage or salary in a capitalist system), which Marx referred to as a transition from the "realm of necessity" to the "realm of freedom." As a result, a communist society is envisioned as being composed of an intellectually-inclined population with both the time and resources to pursue its creative hobbies and genuine interests, and to contribute to creative social wealth in this manner. Karl Marx considered "true richness" to be the amount of time one has at his or her disposal to pursue one's creative passions.Marx's notion of communism is in this way radically individualistic.
Tyler Hill
Only logical methods of making a wealthier society: >make people behave and work better >allocate resources more effectively
How commies plan on doing it: >pay people to not work >abolish the only method of knowing value
D E L U S I O N A L
Connor Bailey
not how reality works.
you talk about your communist revolution for how long now? still, nothing happened.
Luis Ortiz
>youtube.com/watch?v=M_dnRA5NFhs >youtube.com/watch?v=f-woaDniFQc >private property gets actually abolished >means of production get actually seized >human rights naturally vanquish >no market, no value >with no measurement of value they don't know how to measure productivity >food goes short >millions starve to death >survivors live in poverty for the rest of their lives Commies are literally worst than getting nuked.
Nathaniel Sanders
Its happened plenty of times, socialism is still big and healthy.
>qUCK
"i don't know the difference communism and socialism, nor how the two actually work: the post
brazil was a mistake
Evan Jones
conservative communist here. we need to kill all nonwhites, fags and other degenerates. they are ruining our cause among the common working men.
Josiah Davis
The essential conditions for the existence and for the sway of the bourgeois class is the formation and augmentation of capital; the condition for capital is wage-labour. Wage-labour rests exclusively on competition between the labourers. The advance of industry, whose involuntary promoter is the bourgeoisie, replaces the isolation of the labourers, due to competition, by the revolutionary combination, due to association. The development of Modern Industry, therefore, cuts from under its feet the very foundation on which the bourgeoisie produces and appropriates products. What the bourgeoisie therefore produces, above all, are its own grave-diggers. Its fall and the victory of the proletariat are equally inevitable.
Oliver Thompson
>socialism is still big and healthy.
go in a socialist country first, live there a bit, then talk.
Jaxson Diaz
I find that goal noble.
Non-whites are fine, and eventually you'll grow out of your hatred. You'll find scum anywhere, and you'll find gems everywhere.
>Sweden >Denmark >Norway >People's Republic of China >Democratic People's Republic of Korea >Cuba
compared to
>Somalia >Greece >Eastern Europe
Jordan Allen
Do you ever sleep you cringy autistic weeaboo neckbeard commiecuck?
Connor Cox
Remember those socialist computing science teachers that you used to shield yourself from the economic calculation problem? Turns out they can't even begin to explain the system they proposed. Really makes you think, huh?
Justin Stewart
tl:dr
Colton Rogers
>/thread
Jace Howard
Central planning doesn't work.
Get a job. A real job.
Alexander Price
>10 posts by this ID
Jacob Miller
>13 Posters >37 replies >10 posts by this ID lol
Closing this tab now. Sage.
Cooper Kelly
>Sweden complete mess. >Denmark >Norway paying literally twice the price of a car, expensive, getting taxed to death. state knows whats best for you. >People's Republic of China horrific living conditions, forced labour, executions for organ harvest. >Cuba poor. nice place, but poor.
Christopher Hughes
how do i woo a socalist qt?
Andrew Baker
The cognitive dissonance is too strong for you to read 3 small emails on your own thread. Commies are truly the most pathetic creatures in the political spectrum.
Mason Peterson
>socialist qt
Wut? Better stick to 2d like that autistic spanish commie neckbeard
Tyler Fisher
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Dylan Rogers
Shit idpol most true communists are against mass refugees.
Whats wrong with posting?
You literally do not need a massive amount of wealth to be happy. but:
>USA horrid living conditions for poor, treats its people like shit. Have to have SOME income or you're fucked.
>Somalia Literally the worst country.
>anywhere with rampant capitalism complete degeneracy.
You have plenty in sweden
Connor Barnes
>most true communists are against mass refugees.
Why do lefty/pol/ neckbeards pretend to be "redpilled"?
but she's really pretty and sweet :3 i know, give me a nice quote by marx
Jace Turner
>horrid living conditions for poor, treats its people like shit. Have to have SOME income or you're fucked.
doesnt look like it tbqh
>Literally the worst country. there is a story to that, involving dumping waste and killing all the fish
>anywhere with rampant capitalism >complete degeneracy.
its not capitalism to blame.
its still marxism which is active promoting degeneracy. >im a professor! look it up
Lincoln Hall
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Juan Bailey
>muh everyone is equal Fuck off.
Isaac Butler
>chatting with bots >2017 This is a shill circle in the iddle, while no major news like putin death or aleppo bombing they shill for communism, to keep their hands busy
Jonathan Richardson
Heres one.
>Doesn't look like it desu
Its because you're on the other side of the world.
>Theres a story to that RAMPANT CAPITALISM
>Its still marxism which is active promoting degeneracy Marxism tells people "Yes, you CAN dress up in dog outfits and put on womens uniform!..But why would you?"
Capitalism with its abundance of unnecessary freedom is what causes degeneracy
Not true, we're different, but we should all treat each other the same.
Jace Nelson
From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.
Jackson Richardson
with all due respect comrade the nonwhites are incompatible and demoralizing to our community. if we are realistic our goals can never be accomplished without ethnic and cultural homogeneity.
Anthony Robinson
>when you can't explain the system you've been advocating for months woah, feels good not being a delusional idiot wasting my life in fantasies.
David Reyes
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Ryder Hernandez
tl;dr
probably read them later.
Its not non-whites desu.
yes, they're different to us, and think different. But we did domesticate the dog after all.
Gabriel Jenkins
You won't read them later, you are delusional person who doesn't want to confront any contradictory information. Just look at the autistic Spaniard, he's been ignoring me for at least two weeks. Even after I spoke to the professors of the paper he was spamming. I doubt you are any different.
Dylan Brown
I will read them.
Im coming for your toothbrush, monkey.
Elijah Richardson
Why haven't you read them already? Why did you make 3 posts before actually reading them? Faggot.
Also
>using "desu" You should non-ironically kill yourself.
Gavin Green
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Michael Edwards
Gonna read them when i have time.
Also, t..b..h is filtered
newfag out
>non-ironically
Luke Peterson
Four posts before actually interacting. You are not going to read them. You faggot. You had the time, and you didn't do it. As I already said it, you are a delusional little faggot incapable of logically explaining your beliefs.
Robert Ramirez
im gonna read them.
But i'll probably just disregard them as reddit tier "intellectuals".
Plus i have this annoying monkey faggot breathing down my neck.
>Nordic countries on their way to true socialism
>China Thriving economy, no unemployment currently cucking everyone.
>Korea Literally perfect
>Cuba better off under Castro than Capitalism
>Somalia Anarcho-****CAPITALIST****
>Greece Shithole before socialism
>EE see above
Xavier Taylor
Get a load of this gigantic fucking faggot.
Elijah Price
rood desu
Carter Jones
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Austin King
>true socialism forgot the trademark boyo
>Thriving economy, it's a smog covered depressive shite hole, certainly wouldn't make it out to be a model of what you're going for if you want people to get on side
>Literally perfect is this a /leftypol/ / reddit maymay?
>Anarcho-****CAPITALIST**** nah just anarchism and chaos without aim because it's a nog filled shite hole
>Shithole before socialism and after and during, gee wiz
>see above kept a shitehole despite being run by gommies
Benjamin Williams
And I fucking called it.
>"You won't read them later, you are delusional person who doesn't want to confront any contradictory information. Just look at the autistic Spaniard, he's been ignoring me for at least two weeks. Even after I spoke to the professors of the paper he was spamming. I doubt you are any different."
I literally called it right in front of him. Fuck these delusional commie faggots.
Ryan Mitchell
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Lincoln Hall
>CHAYNA well Market Socialism isnt perfect
>/pol >Against North Korea is this a meme
>>Somalia isnt capitalist, anywhere.
>Greece Will be first communist country
>EE Is shit because of continuous cappie influence
Holodomor was too merciful for cappie scum
>mercenary He would've slaughtered your cappie cucks just as quick.
Christ, you're annoying.
Nathan Taylor
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Joshua Young
>claim that you will engage >don't engage after 8 posts >"Christ, you are so annoying" M E N T A L D I S O N A N C E
Does the commie think that it matters if mass migration is legal or not? Really?
Michael Gonzalez
>communism thread >doesn't start and end with a download link to The Gulag Archipelago Sup Forums what are you doing? Communism has been refuted for decades now.
Oliver Carter
My property belongs to me go away
Caleb Martinez
no it doesn't
Christopher Carter
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Joseph Howard
yes it does
Grayson Robinson
no
Adrian Flores
Yes, but edgy leftist losers want to colonize this board to look cooler, because their boards are lame (mostly because of them). Leftists = childish faggots
Benjamin Hughes
yes do you agree that the concept "theft" does exist?