If I wanted to become a Christian, where can I find the proof that God exists...

If I wanted to become a Christian, where can I find the proof that God exists? I'm excited to start my religious journey, I just want to get this small detail out of the way before I get started! Thanks in advance!

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If there was definite proof that Jesus was divine and Christianity was the path to eternal peace and pleasure, then everyone would be a perfect Christian. Faith is required

Start with the Mandelbrot Set and work your way outward from there.

Moar

How does that woman functions? If one of them wants to raise one arm and the other wants to lower it who wins?

This. Basically, you are required to suspend your disbelief and believe in something that is completely unbelievable.

Doesn't sound very reasonable does it?

>math humor

She's the perfect Ogre Magi.

Have you tried your local church?

Good fucking question.

If we are 3rd dimensional beings, sound and light are 1D, and paper/anime is 2D. Then what would 12D beings be to us?

>where can I find the proof that God exists?
Good luck. How is "god's word" anything other than the hearsay of man?

The one without most malformations in the head is the dominate one while the second would send signals like a conscience, essentially asking to do something or gain control if dominant mind is not paying attention

In the morally devoid and shitty world you live in Op! Alcoholism, sodomy, gambling, normalized pre-marital sex, and endless amounts of degeneracy that the Bible forewarned us about are ruining the world.
You could also look at the Bible's prophecies coming true such as the formation of Israel and the degeneration of the youth.
If that's not enough for you, then fine by me. Not everyone is worthy of having faith in morality.

The two headed bitch on the left creates so many questions
>Is it a 3some if you fuck her/them?
>If one head wants to fuck and the other doesnt, is it rape?

Where do you get 12D from?

the head on the far left is the most intact so odds are it is the dominate one, the other is just a sophisticated tumor.

Getting a blowjob must be a hella time

Each of them controls an arm and a leg.

No word yet on how they decide to masturbate.

Top KEK

>pol discusses Abby and Brittany again
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first perhaps one of the brains has the only connection to a nerve, therefore only that brain can operate the limb.

If both brains have a direct input connection to a nerve then if both activate the nerve, the nerve will receive double the stimuli, eventually the nervous system should learn to not overreact to such happening

if both brains activate different muscles, they should get a cramp as one doesnt cancel the other

Read the bible a few times my boy, or do what I did and talk to your local priest. They fucking love when people ask them questions.

What the fuck wew lad one step at a time.

do you think those two kiss sometimes?

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phys.org/news/2014-12-universe-dimensions.html

Personally I separate a bit more of the stuff and count 4th dimension as mind since you can have a functioning body with no mind.

>Falling for the christian jew in 2017
user...

I have no problem believing that God could or does exist

But I can't bring myself to believe in the Virgin Birth, Ascension of Christ, etc. Without that stuff though, Christianity is meaningless.

Thoughts?

But the greatest argument against Christianity is the Bible itself, so I don't want to start there. It's all magic and mythical creatures. Nobody in their right mind in 2017 gonna believe that crazy stuff.

Even though I am lapse catholic, just be jewish or just believe in God and not be a dick.

But where is it written that God is 12D is what I'm asking.

How do you explain terrible things happening to deeply religious people? That destroys any pre tense of a god

finally, a chance to use this

God is not a God of intervention

Natural Theology

most of the bible is just supposed to be stories with a meaning, like Moby Dick about not being carried away by revenge.

none at all cause a 12th dimension is still in debate, but whatever is at the highest dimension you can bet your ass created us and those other dimensions if we are able to create 1 and 2 dimensions.

bible itself has examples, its just god being an ass and testing people, just that sometimes he doesnt know when to stop testing, th eonly way to stopit is to never fail the test, or fail absolutely and without a shadow of doubt right away i guess

there is no proof.
The entirety of understanding you are NOT the smartest being int he universe and NOT the most powerful being is entirely an act of faithing and intellect.

there will never be proof you are right...... you must accept you will always be wrong.

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Proof doesn't exist, but in the imaginations of man. Read all you can about religions - all of them. Don't leave out anything, including ancient religions and tribal religions. You'll start to see a pattern that probably began before the ability to write it down; it's all made-up - all of it.

If you want something to live for that's bigger than you, try growing things. Not kidding.

This bitch died in the 1800s but she hasn't decomposed yet, although they put a wax mask on her face because there was mold growing

Is that enough proof

This is disturbing. Seriously, what the heck.

How do you expect to learn something is you don't read the good book?

Actually you might want to watch those films that came out a while ago as a good starting point that's how I learnt when I was younger, they make it more interesting and some of them are fucking kino. (see Prince of Egypt) The animation isn't even shit like they usually are with this kind of thing

Could be the people making the religions were able to see another dimension but never got to the final one or misinterpreted what they saw...then yes others just are copy/paste with different skin.

Seriously? A hundred things could explain that.

there is a pic of them sucking dick, im sure ive seen it

haha it's shopped though

>Mummification exists

FEDORAS BTFO

He's not a vending machine. You don't get what you want because you follow some magic incantations. You get what you need for a purpose that is not your own. Reject that purpose for your own designs is an exercise in futility, often yielding no improvement on your circumstance, and certainly nothing of merit ultimately.

"Bad" things happening to deeply religious people only implies that the world ought to be any other way than it is, which assumes a standard beyond yourself. God is that standard. That you identify something should be a different way is indicative of what Christian theology asserts, the world ISN'T the way that it should be. It is broken, and in need of a mechanic. Being religious isn't what fixes something - it only allows God to do what only He can do, and being the better judge of that than any of us will sometimes, perhaps even often, require that the faithful temporarily suffer now that a far greater good might be ultimately be realized.

Else, your perspective presumes the finality of life. That all we get are maybe 70 some odd years, and any discomfort in that period somehow can not be justified, because you discount eternity. So sure, from your perspective it doesn't make sense. The petulant child will often throw a tantrum when it is disciplined over matters it does not understand.

For those of you that aren't religious, would you feel comfortable yelling out "I willingly give my soul to Satan and I want to go to hell"

I wonder if the two headed chick is dating anyone or if it's like one of those deals where they regard themselves as two separate people so they try to date separate people? That would be confusing because that implies they have two vaginas, but it's pretty clear they share one. So, how does that work, does one borrow the vagina on the week-ends or do they alternate days?

Yes

The good Doctor would have a fucking field day with this level of deformity...

>tfw no two headed qt6.28 to have beautiful one and a half headed children with
Just kill me already. I might as well impregnate a nonwhite

Start with talking snakes, talking donkeys, and talking burning bushes then go from there.

I willingly give my soul to Satan and I want to go to hell

You need to start your own spiritual journey. /Pol isn't really the place to ask if you are serious. But start meditating or praying, whatever you want to call it. Discover yourself before you discover God.

My mantra is temple in mind, temple in body, temple in home, temple in world, temple in spirit.

Simply reading the Bible won't help, it's too dense. Try the Bible project on YouTube if you want a good foundation for understanding the Bible.

Just know that all religions are different expressions of the same thing. Science knows a lot and will continue to do so but it will never know the forest for the trees. The universe should be in a complete state of random chaos, but for some reason there is some order, and that order has given rise to things that can begin to comprehend it. See how everything is in a constant state of flux between order and chaos.

Could be the ones who made the religions saw the need to control a population that was no longer afraid of things they could see, so they created a story of everlasting pain or pleasure to encourage behavior. Could be that a population was so oppressed that a story was created to give hope. It could be that a fictional tale was created (hundreds of them) and told for so long that the lines between history and relative morality became blurred. Could be that those stories have been told before under different names in different languages, passed on by traders and travelers, then finally written down, only to be written with slight changes century after century. Noah's ark is a story told thousands of years prior and Jesus could be just about any sun deity, including his persecution, execution and rising from the dead. It could be that people are so piss-scared of death that they'll believe anything - not anything plausible; just anything that other people believe first, thereby not making them look as foolish by comparison. Could be that religion is, and has always been a weakness in the psyche of mankind to compensate for the fact that we evolved enough intelligence to become self-aware, but not yet enough to explain some parts of life we seem to be most worried about.

It's hardly enough proof for anyone to kill or die for over another person's version of the fairy tale.

Yeah, the key thing is to speak to people who know what they are talking about and don't be afraid to ask difficult questions.

>its like the bible is just full of morality and life teachings veiled in allegory

Like some other user said, study all religion and you will begin to understand. You don't need to grow plants though, and you can still develop a belief in God.

After or while studying religion, spend some time with based Doc Jacques (pic related), and your understanding will grow.

After spending some time with the doc, go back and think on what other user said about 1st, 2nd, and 3rd dimensions, and what a 12th dimension being would seem to us

I would and have. I've yelled that I want to sell my soul, too. Nothing happens because it's a fairy tale.

Understanding God isn't a switch that you flick, it's a life long journey.

This

They're two individuals, as different as you and a sibling or a friend. The one on the left was engaged at one point, but not the one on the right - somehow. I'm not sure who's virginity was lost first.

have they ever kissed?

Thomas Aquinas' argument from first cause

kek

I dont know whats a hotter scenario: Both of them are into you and they take turns blowing you while the other nuzzles your pubes and whispers encouragement. Or only one of them is into it and you can stare down the one that cant fet away.

He's not asking about how to build a rockin' bod. He's asking to be indoctrinated in fantasy to make death less scary.

Are they still virgins? Has some lucky guy fucked them and gotten a double blowjob yet?

Pretty sure an eternity of fire is scarier than whatever it is you're doing. Atheism is for pussies.

Not necessarily. I began my search for God as a way of living a more fulfilling and happier life after being an "existentialist" / atheist for too long.
I don't really care to speculate about afterlife or some kind of spirit reward.
Different people seek enlightenment for different reasons. If you are after the carrot on the stick you will never get it

I see your point, I mostly just like the idea that a high dimensional being created us in his image so as a species we could evolve overtime to reach the creators level.

We were made special compared to other animals on Earth and maybe other dimensional beings who can't evolve upwards but we can.

Then those other dimensional beings who couldn't move up, decided to try and control us instead.

>nuzzles your pubes
I never call out virgins because it's retarded, but, ...really? Maybe if one could lick your asshole while the other blew you, but "nuzzles your pubes"? Have you ever had a blowjob? Have you ever even seen a "pube-nuzzling" section on pornhub?

They're two conjoined twins you stupid niggers. Left head controls left arm/leg, right head controls right arm/leg. This was explained nearly a decade ago.

also
>indoctrinated
what are you afraid of? Do you suffer from a weak constitution? Do you know what you are, and your direction in life?
Study all religion, gain wisdom where you find it, throw out what is useless or goes against your personal "truth"

I was hoping to avoid combiner rules.

I'm pretty sure they've probably made out with each other while masturbating at some point

Lol, dishonor.

Nice ad hom. You were atheist until you were told to believe in the sky fairy, too. No matter what religious people here wish to believe, atheism is merely a lack of faith for any reason. Before you knew religion existed to hoodwink you for the rest of your life, you had no faith simply because you weren't yet told to.

Here comes an angry, triggered response about you never being atheist, even though it's a fact. Go on...

>ruining the world

The world is objectively better in almost every way.

They either say some bullshit like "but I discovered god" or respond with fedorafag memes. They never refute that point because they know it's true.

Then you want an eastern religion. (not islam)
The western ones are all about subservience.

>We were made
We evolved from single-cell organisms.

When will religious people realize that what actually happened is so much more special than the fairy tale?

start with- Augustine of Hippo- and look up his points my friend and how he goes about responding to questions.

> Augustine of Hippo wrote that time exists only within the created universe so that God exists outside time

take the final redpill and godspeed

Nice try Satan.

Cue the picture of it giving a blowjob in public!

you do realize that the major Abrahamic religions have all been subverted and corrupted at some point, don't you?

Throw out aspects of the teachings that reek of human ego, find the kernels of truth and wisdom

The thing about God is, you have to go into it with a truly, truly open mind. I was raised an edgy secular fag, and was honestly incredibly cringeworthy about it in retrospect. Then I made friends with this guy who was really religious, and after "picking his arguments apart" he asked me to just honestly, sincerely give it a go.

A few days later I smoked a bowl (was still using drugs at that point) I turned off the light, sat down on the floor, put my hands together, and prayed. Something along the lines of "If the lord Jesus Christ is truly real, and you can hear me, please give me a sign."

Then I felt it, what people talk about when they say they feel the "Holy Spirit." But, more, a voice that was, for lack of a better understanding, external. From outside of me. NOT my internal monologue.

I then asked "Why all the bad in the world?"

A response.

"So humanity can learn from their mistakes."

Take that to mean what you will, but after that I was and am still sure that Jesus Christ is real. Like, really real. I'm not here to get into an ontological argument with anyone or prove myself or anything, I'll be leaving this thread after this post. But my point is this:

Without an ABSOLUTELY open mind, true faith that something that you do not believe in MAY perhaps be real, you're approaching it in the wrong way. I had tried praying many times since I was a child, and it was only in my 20s that I truly found God. And it was good.

Side note about the voice: imagine Elohim from The Talos Principle (don't accuse me of transference, or do idc, but I hadn't played that game until after I had my religious experience. Basically kinda like that.) Loud, authoritative, not necessarily kind or unkind. Just... There. Unequivocally, another entity that is not part of your conscious or subconscious.

You know how much hard work/planning/systems merging evolution is and why we have the ability to see it ourselves compared to dogs licking their own nuts?

Something made us through evolution. No creationism bullshit, evolution is the way we were made but by something higher and for a reason.

I am not afraid of anything at all. Religions are CLEARLY all bullshit if you ACTUALLY study them objectively. Nice try. It's hard for you to understand.

The proof is you already know God exists

The next step is Baptism and continuing in the faith

Recommend the Catholic Church

well that helped my idea of humans advancing as a species to be on the same level as our creator.

Religion isn't bad, it's just sooooooooooooooooooooo many people do it wrong.

man there are two very hot mormons that swing by often. i am destined to fuck them. i swear to god it would be the greatest thing ever. they are hot as hell and nice. we could get this to work

sounds like you smoked some dank weed

>Religions are CLEARLY all bullshit
>me 15 years ago

babbys first philosophy?

They have independent circulatory and nervous systems and seem like good people. m.youtube.com/watch?v=aNQc4NziUWc

do you think they out deodorant in their neck pussy?

you know, I have met mormons and for some reason they are always happy even if stressful shit.

but yeah go for it.

Read C.S Lewis' "Mere Christianity" - lays out the logical case for god and Christ pretty early.

James 4:6 God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble

You won't get anything right now, you're in your "tfw to intelligent/strong/healthy" phase, but the day will come when you have to humble yourself and then you will be capable to see the signals and you will understand.

I bet she gives good heads.