Why aren't you an anarcho capitalist?

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I dont have literal tons of gold buried in my backyard so it would be pretty shit for me.

Because the availability for someone to come along and transform an ancap country into a communist shithole is too high.
There is a picture out there with the liber. right/left running to the auth. side so they have the means to enforce their political ideology.

Implies that gold is the only non government run currency

Anarchy is stupid in any form, society would devolve into who has the bigger club metaphorically speaking, so unless you can buy the biggest militia in town you will be a slave.

It's fairly easy to imply that in ancap society the people would be much more armed and much more accustomed to no government and would overthrow any obvious power structures forming.

They are too low IQ/ are k selected herd animals.

Did you completely forget about the nap my dude

I'm not an absolute retard.

Good job contributing to the discussion

You don't need to respect the nap is no one can stop you.

It's pointless. People would just reform governments and states and elect to live under social contracts that exchange some freedoms for protections. We started out naturally in anarchocapitalism and yet we have government here now.

And if the solution is having some sort of organized force to dismantle and keep governments from reforming, then that's just the government itself.

I like you guys a whole like better than communists though, and I can definitely empathize with wanting a free market and limited government.

Because there is nothing to stop the entrepreneurial elite from forming a secret society and using subtle propaganda to influence and change how people think in order to control the tyranny of the majority against their critics.

Tyranny of the majority is worse than tyranny of law, as social interaction which is always against you is like a ghost haunting you.

It's an incoherent self-defeating ideology of intellectually dishonest people that has only a tiny chance of ever attracting anyone but few people on some fringe websites.
Better?

>if
you got where i was going

>We started out naturally in anarchocapitalism
Early america was closer to minarchism, if anything

Because it's a foolish, self-defeating ideology. There's always a "government", a source of executive power, even if it simply comes from the largest and most powerful corporations. What you would have would not be anarchy, but a corporate oligarchy.

Because it's stupid and unsustainable. Libertarian Right is the only way to go.

But I am.

Because I'm with her

>Early america

I mean like back in pre-history before humans even had society or government at all. Or are you talking about Natives.

Like the government right now does?

I'm a libertarian

I don't mind some state control, but I do admit that the slippery slope is real.

No it wasn't. It had a strong state and industrial policy.

these are my thoughts on it too.

it's like the dumbfuck stoners who always say they have a ground breaking theory that's better than money, and it's still just money.

Its called the vote with your dollar system, monopolies are created by the state with patents.

But really if you want an example of why not to be an-cap just look at Somalia

There's a difference between being "Jeffersonian" and going to full extreme which has no basis in history, logic, and just fucking common sense.

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Is Ancap Social Darwinism?

exactly, hence why anarchy is stupid. In the end you get a tyrannical and far worse government who doesn't give a shit about you and will use you to wage war with the warlord from the neighboring towns.

TRANSLATION
Why don't you want to be a slave?

Because I don't wanna die in poverty and struggle

Exactly. As Dostoyevsky said, "absolute freedom leads to absolute tyranny".

mises.org/library/wouldnt-warlords-take-over

what are the basic concepts of anaracho - capitalism?

>It's pointless. People would just reform governments and states and elect to live under social contracts that exchange some freedoms for protections.

SHUT IT DOWN.

huehuehue you need no explicit social contracts... just take this implicit one, its super convenient, no need to think about anything. go vote, it will definitely make a difference.

which is what the government does right now....

/Warlord General/

Until the local warlord shits all over the neighbourhood with his tank

Because you can't have property rights without a government to enforce them.

are you in the military?

already am brother, soon the USD will be tied to bitcoin and the world shall know peace

Because I'm not bluepilled

How about you use actual arguments, a short presentation, instead of just lazily linking walls of text.
Their idol Mises was so intellectually dishonest he supported fascism at one point. He literally shat on all his argumentation by admitting you NEED strong state and violence to stop what he saw as worse things.
If that doesn't make you question the quasi-intellectual diarrhea of his disciples you just might be a cultist.
When you create a simplified social model even communism sounds great.
Reality is different. If ideology doesn't conform to reality, it's most probably useless.

but the article exactly clashes with the above argument

yes how did you know?

I don't want to read it. You can easily give main points. If you're too lazy to do so, why should I act differently?

if you're not interested in hearing the objection then fuck off dude

>be me
>live in anarcho-capitalistic (a)society
Already an evident contradiction, KEK
>don't give a shit about the NAP
>kill other people, steal their wealth and rape their women

Let's imply I initially (and everybody on earth too) follow the NAP
>be me
>live in anarcho-capitalistic (a)society (kekkin again)
>be living good life as a farmer because society broke as no guideline to coordinate people cause no central government (actually, no government at all)
>o shit
>it's the volatile weather
>norainthismonthforme.mkv
>nothing to eat anymore
>violate the NAP to survive cause no socialism, no one helps me as everyone would give me food only if I become their slave and my wife and children their sexual slaves

I'm interested in hearing the objection but that means you typing out a response with arguments, not linking some bullshit. At least you didn't link a book or 2 hour YT video like some shitters here do.

then be thankful to be protecting the land of you forefathers and be glad that they pay you for it, considering that you are posting from ireland and it's not involved in any war since 1998 you should stop bitching. also timestamp or you are just fucking LARPer, and come back with real arguments.

Well their argument to that is you can form your own ''government'' and what not in voluntary arrangement.
Which kinda reeks of Year Zero. It's literally a cult whose hidden motive is neo-feudalism.

we already agree on the NAP i mean we dont go around punching people unless you are a nigger but more importantly is fascist and an caps need each other there will not be such a thing as a libertarian in a non white shithole its a white thing we can talk about economy and wonderfull programs or lack of after the ethnostate comes true now the only problem is how to kill commies gas bullet or helicopter?

because I like roads

You should start bring arguments yourself before mandating others to do so. That might be too much for a statist though.

>like the government does right now my dude?
>not an argument

tell me why you won't be a slave to your local warlord then?

If you start any kind of society it's no longer anarchy, as in FUCKING >ANARCHO-capitalism

These deluded LARPers...

Literal retarded system that operates on so much loophole abuse it would make a lawyer orgasm.
>Be ancap
>Use Jewish tricks™ to increase personal wealth
>Ancap_meme.spam
Almost all ancap memes are
>Person A wants more wealth/a thing
>Person A builds a loophole abusing scheme that will cause person B, their target, to violate the NAP
>NAP violated, person A swoops in to get all his gets

I'm not a pseudo-intellectual 16 year old.

>implying private security wouldn't exist in a purely capitalist free market utopia

fucking retard Brazilfag, get your own house in order. what does your government give you? you got a fucking government that supposedly provides law and order and already run by warlords. criminal gangs run around freely murdering people and the police do nothing. that's what government gives you. kek

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_MAG

yeah, sure our government is deeply corrupt and the administration is shit but that doesn't mean no government at all would be better. with no government at all. also gangs don't roam around freely, they are repealed by the police even if the police is not well equipped to do so.
but you didn't answer my question, how would you not be a slave to your local warlord?

>with no government at all then we would be run by warlords and criminal gangs.

sure buddy, but a large militia wouldn't just stand in front or you mg, you'd be outmaneuvered eventually, you would be killed and your family would become slaves. that social contract thing is not that bad huh? That Rousseau dude was pretty smart.

can you turn a helicopter in to a mobile flying gas chamber? that would speed up the cleaning up and economic growth

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If it was a large militia I'd bring lots of friends :^)

How would the warlords and militias get any power in the first place? If a business was funding a militia it would lose its income, as nobody would want to support the business. Same thing with any businesses that provides electricity, heat, ammunition etc. to the militia.

Anarchism and capitalism don't mix.

>anything i can't observe presently is ideology

kys retard

Why would you need a business if you have force?
You don't even have to storm into peoples houses.
>Take waterplant
>Cut a whole city off water
>Fortify that shit
>People depend on you
>You can have water if you are part of the militia X days a week
>Farmers can have water if they provide food for the militia

shit i thought of that in 30 seconds.

Ancapfags only like ancap because it let's them do the jewing instead of being jewed

>anarchism: belief in the abolition of all government and the organization of society on a voluntary, cooperative basis without recourse to force or compulsion.

>voluntary

>without recourse to force or compulsion

>Implying your friends would risk their lives and fight against invading hordes to protect your property.
sure thing buddy.

I pay well, and they would know that their property is next. It's not hard to figure out the incentives for people to organize and smack down warlords if they ever start.

There would be more than one source of water and the previous owner of the "waterplant" would sue you anyway.

This guy gets the point of a free market.

There would be more than one source of water and the owner of the "waterplant" would most likely have paid for some kind of insurance that would protect his property.

and then, when you're little alliance defeats the ennemey, the chiefs sit together and think
> "wow that was pretty easy, you know, i think we should definitely stick together in these situations, like united we stand, together we are stronger, that kind of shit, you know?"
>"you mean ally our tribes? isn't that kind of how nations formed in the first place?"
>"nah man we're just friends, this is totally different, haha we're not founding a nation in an effort to secure our lives and possession against foreign treath, we're just good friends banding up"
>"oh right. Man, i wish people respected the NAP more"

fuck

>ally our tribes
You don't get to speak for a tribe, everyone has complete freedom of association.

You'd have to defend against the entire city's population who are probably armed with automatic nuke launching exoskeletons.

Or in the worst case, the more productive members would simply move to another city, leaving only the most worthless pieces of human garbage behind. (kida like the USSR, before the strengthened border control)

But I am lad

what if the tribe gives you the mandate to speak for them?

>Why aren't you an anarcho capitalist?
Because there is no such thing

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>automatic nuke launching exoskeletons.

Except you have no gas because Imortan Joe's brother is in charge of gastown and his cousin owns the bulletfarm.
Also implying the the whole country is not in the same state of affairs.

>his philosophy doesn't got deeper than "lol let people do what they want xD"

Embarassing.

I love the state and i hate capitalism.
STATE COMMUNISM NOW.

Because it is stupid

then it's voluntary which isn't a state

I'd say not being shot in the fucking head is a pretty good incentive not to infringe in people's rights.

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Coupons and literal monopoly money for every corporation.

sued in ancapistan kek
yeah, sure he would have money but he still wouldn't have water. what good is paper when you live in Mad Max?

Can't shoot me in the head if my private army shoots him first.

>implying current government isnt formed by a voluntary association of voters
If you do not wish the government to speak on your behalf you can initiate seperate channels of communication with other countries on your own and see who takes you seriously.

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So you are not against government, but are butthurt that it's not some random faggot forcing the governmental rule on you?

Fucking cuck.