This statement is 100% unironically true

This statement is 100% unironically true

>believing that roads and borders and laws and free speech should all exist means a lack of opinions

>Extremist thinks that anyone who isn't an extremist is bad

Great, thank goodness that extremists exist, you've really made the world great everytiem

>choosing which rope you'll use to hang yourself
good goy, also dont forget to inform everyone around you about your political views, everyone is so interested

If you blindly follow a political ideology to the point where you cannot see its faults yes, you are a fucking retard

you can have an opinion on something without harboring a blind dedication to it

>everyone is so interested
well you responded

>"we need le balance XD"
centrists are pure cancer

>I AM SILLY

centrism is cancer, and it's often closely related to ignorance or nihilism. and it's actually a tactic used to move society more to the left. the reason is because "conservatism" and "liberalism" aren't just opposite ends of a spectrum. one represents the "now". the "current place". the "doing things the way we've always done them" (conservatism).

the other is the radical change.

so if you're "in the center" then you're inherently moving things away from how they've always been. you're inherently moving to the left.

that's why leftists always seem to love and accept "centrists". they know.

and once society has been moved more to the left, then the overton window is more to the left.

now the "centrists" are even further left than they were in the generation before.

the same process repeats.

it repeats over and over and over again until you have a left-wing society thats totally different from the one you started with.

"it's just the right to vote! no big deal! what could go wrong!" is, i'm sure, what was said when the 19th amendment was passed, and look how our society has managed to slowly drip downhill from then :(

Blindly following anything means it's no longer an ideology and has turned into some sort of religious fanaticism. Ideas are public domain and are subject to change. No one side can own ideas.

Also centrists are the fence sitting uneducated voter tier of ideologies.

And your relativism and lack of any strong conviction is why the west has fallen.

>"conservatism" and "liberalism" aren't just opposite ends of a spectrum. one represents the "now". the "current place". the "doing things the way we've always done them"
By definition, you are correct but this doesn't always boil down to how the two major factions interact. Both factions are more interested in keeping the status quo while offering incremental change. but a lot of "progressive" subjects are actually quite backward. and a lot of "conservative" subjects are quite forward thinking

Take NatSoc for example. It blatantly embraces social progression and loosening of class division yet fully supports segregation by race.

All ideologies are flawed. Would you rather live the rest of your life knowing the truth or delude yourself upholding a noble lie?

Centrism doesn't exist. There's no ACTUAL "center of the political compass". Things like libertarian/authoritarian or left/right or globalist/nationalist are all relative scales.

All "centrism" means is upholding the status quo

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Only in the context of the US or other 2 party only systems

Is not extremism a religion in its own way?

Conservative extremism is very much tied to religion at least. Liberalism is tied to the religion of Social Justice. Seems like religion and politics are connected in many ways actually.

ad hominem

kraut gets it

I consider myself a "centrist", though I don't know if there are any "centrist" circle jerks around the place and if it really means what I think it means.
I do not believe people who hold strong opinions on the Left or Right are "fucking retards". Often it's for a reason.
In the current political climate I find the Left to be much more retarded though, as I believe in freedom of speech, presumption of innocence, and the superiority of Judeo-Christian, Western culture.
Smaller percentage than people think are retarded on Left or Right. Everyone holds their views for a reason, often to do with education, family, and of course control of our media and education systems by bigger ((agenda's)).
I can't say I'm on the Right because I tend to want to help everyone, or want everyone to be helped achieve their potential. However I'm not on the Left because I DO believe in personal responsibility and tough love. E.g. I feel sorry for niggers who grow up in ghetto's and I can see how in one way many of them don't have much of a chance to be different. I believe we as a society should do something to break that cycle. However I believe in some tough love, you don't say "poor niglets, you dindu nuffin', it's all da whyt boys fault", I say "Dude, you're really on a bad path and making bad decisions, this is for your own good" and give some beat downs, some boot camps etc.

I think communism, socialism etc sound nice and contain truth, but the key thing is they shouldn't be forced, they shouldn't be law. Wealth redistribution through charity, richer folks wanting to help is good. But forcing them to give it up is wrong.
Legally I believe in open markets, freedom, freedom to offend, but morally I believe in sharing, being sensitive. It should always be your choice.
Environment - even without global warming, the Green movement, I just have to admit I hate seeing destruction and waste. I'm a bit like JRR Tolkien

Centrists are shit bags, just bandwagon for whatever is popular at the moment never standing for anything.

>All "centrism" means is upholding the status quo
No it does not. I understand that you'd view it that view given the American system where you only have 2 sides to choose from and those who call themselves "centrist" most often want to keep the system as it is. But that does not change the reality in other sysstems nor does it change the meaning of words

we are the opposite of bandwagoners

Most of America went right wing or left wing in the past year and we stayed in the center. People are turning into either fashy goys or card-carrying marxists. Centrists are sadly a dying breed. Shame.

I would add that I find tribalism on both sides of politics annoying. In that sometimes the exact same policy will be mocked by one side and praised by the other, but they all forget it was the other way around 15 years ago.
People, our whole political discourse and landscape, are so adversarial. We defend stupid actions and opinions from someone on our side just because he's "our guy", and attack things the other side do which really aren't that bad.
I have no time for this. Because this is personal, it's not about seeking the truth or making the right decisions, it's just political. Fuck that, seriously. Any political movement that is an end unto itself, needs to reassess. E.g. Feminism, they have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find things to be outraged about, they have to take on new areas of social justice like racism, poverty etc and call it all "feminism" just to remain relevant.
The motive for feminism was (ostensibly) equality. That's what people should care about regardless of the label, but no, they are more dedicated to the "feminist" label, tribe than anything else.

>unironically true

That isn't a Centrist.

A Centrist is always a reactionary as they have strong feelings for one set of right wing politics as well as strong feelings for one set of left wing politics.

>no actual center
grow up and understand that there are forces at work beyond the american two-party system

that is something that they teach you in school just because that way of thinking is easiest to understand

humanity is a giant clusterfuck of people trying to push their own personal agenda

all a centrist is is someone who believes in a policy-by-policy approach. who does not accept something just because it comes from a liberal or conservative source.

this is why a "centrist" party cannot exist - there would be too many conflicting agendas

>there would be too many conflicting agendas
naw, as long as the budget is balanced you can have as many conflicting agendas as one wants.
The only thing which can go bad with it is that some groups won't like it, but that's what voting is to make sure you have support for your different policies

Even though I'm a centrist I also don't think a Centrist political party could work, at least not without big changes in the media landscape and our culture when it comes to discussing politics.
Coz the way it is today, people focus on the negative, and you'd just end up with both the Left and Right hating you for the areas you disagree with them on, and ignoring what you have in common. The media would never let you rest, call you a flip-flopper, indecisive, a fence sitter etc

There are plenty of centrist parties in the world though...

they always end up aligning themselves with either a left or right wing party, whichever is more dominant

But how successful are they? They don't win anything

>lol France doesn't exist
Macrons party is centrist, the absolute opposite of what I'd like but it still is centrist as it has extreme left and extreme right agendas at the same time

Excuse my ignorance. I know he's all about immigration and "strength through diversity" from the Left side, but what about the Right? Economically conservative?

Macron economically is ancap level

>supporting segregation of race
>backwards

Right, so even though he's a fellow centrist he's actually taken what I hate from both sides and I detest him even more than someone on the left or right.
And this is something else I have found with Centrists. There are many different kinds, I have a friend I went to highschool with who is similar. He's "centre" as well, but whereas I am Left on Environment, public health, education, but Right on fundamental Western merits (freedom of speech etc), and Right on things like believing homosexuality and gender dysmorphia is a mental illness, HE is an atheist, loves the queers, works in mining and hates greenies. He's my polar opposite and I can't stand him. But we're both centrist, lel

Give me my fuggin clothes bak center dooshe!

I have to admit that it might be in many many cases that people call themselves centrist because the real accurate label has a bad reputation.
If I review my own ideal state based on what I've seen works in reality and existing labels then I'd have to call myself a ...
>classical neoliberal
Just without the corruption and going through with NIT and anti-interventionism

>falling for the two party system meme
and golly that comic sure makes me feel silly!

Not really. Centrists still hold serious convictions about stuff.

What you mean is the slimy cunts that never take any stance at all, not even a centrist one. All they'll do it criticize everyone else's suggestions by creating highly improbable fictional scenarios where it would fall apart but absolutely refuse to say what they themselves would be in favor of.