Norway scraps plans for controversial memorial near site of 2011 Utoya terrorist attack >Plans to cut a "wound" into a Norwegian peninsula in memory of the victims of terrorist Anders Breivik have been abandoned following years of opposition from locals.
"The irate group had previously described the memorial as a "rape of nature", a "tourist attraction", and a "hideous monument". They sued the state on the grounds that the project would harm the local community and landscape. Additionally, the residents – a number of whom had aided victims during the attacks – argued the planned memorial was too invasive and close to their homes."
Guess which other Scandinavian country the artist is from, Sup Forums.
offtopic, but the captchas have been ridiculously long lately
Hudson Lopez
truth
Sweden needs to die. Honestly. Same with Germany.
Thomas James
Are the Norwegians asleep right now? I'd really like to hear their take on this
David Fisher
I thought I'd get more traction with this tbqh familia this is Sup Forums and it is Brevik
Jackson Taylor
that's a pretty neat looking concept though
Kayden Ramirez
It is, but it's fucked if the locals don't want it and the artist and bureaucracy tried to make it happen anyway
Nathaniel Thompson
Bumparoo
Isaiah Miller
Good. Leaving a permanent mark would have them never shut up about it.
It's getting old already, and even Anders changed his name so media legally have to address him as either "Utoya Terrorist" or his new name.
Which they blatantly will refuse to do either long-term.
Easton Jones
Also this, especially the click a square. And its been freezing up, turning grey and nothing happens when I hit next. That may be on my end though.
Completely offtopic but does anyone else have where a thread does not load all of the images, it just says they are 404. Not banned people either, it happens both on my phone and computer but only on Sup Forums.
Dominic Gonzalez
>you're raping the earth
she typed from her iPhone after riding to work in her Prius from her house made of stone and wood
Kayden Robinson
I've been against it for a long time, I know of the first guy that was shot. I literally don't care tho, cuz he lived.
Anders told everyone to gather around after landing at Utoya, that there's been an attack committed (his bomb), then pulled out his pistol and placed it on the side of his head and pulled the trigger when there was a ring of people around him.
Bullet went out the eye, not into the brain.
Terrorist attacks in europe are being ignored left and right, and advocated to be forgotten as "commonplace" these days, just because the left gets to overglorify Anders Behring Breivik for brownie points and play victim card, does not mean they get to. They really want to, which is what this landmark is all about, but they don't get to do that just because he was white.
Zachary Watson
thanks user I wanted to get a norbro in here, give us his opinion
Jayden Russell
Looks like when you dig a canal through a mountain in minecraft.
Gavin Gutierrez
>checked that happens to me too user kek That's crazy user. >They really want to, which is what this landmark is all about That's what it seems like. What's it like for the average Norweigan? What's the opinion on the refugees, etc?
Ayden Jenkins
largest political party (Labour Party/ Arbeiderpartiet), which is essentially a marxist /communist party (the same party Breivik shot up youth party of), changed their doctrines of pro-mass immigration to against it after the attacks.
They got to their senses and realized that mass-immigration is bad for the workers that vote for them.
So you got 40% voting power against mass-immigration, which probally 25% of 40% would stay loyal to party vote/doctrines.
combined with right wing parties who are against it, right now majority of representatives in parliament are against mass immigration, regardless of form.
pro-refugee people are absolute minority (probally less than 1%) of population, but they are vocal and cynical. Doesn't help much though, because the big red party / communists at AP/Labour party don't play the refugee game anymore other than PR reasons to shame the right-wing coalition goverment.
Levi Brown
You are welcome. >Terrorist attacks in europe are being ignored left and right, and advocated to be forgotten as "commonplace" these days, just because the left gets to overglorify Anders Behring Breivik for brownie points and play victim card, does not mean they get to. They really want to, which is what this landmark is all about, but they don't get to do that just because he was white. The fact that they can be forgotten as "commonplace" is insane. To parade Breivik around and hush hush the others is bullshit. Good to hear they did not get that one through.
Levi Lee
>largest political party (Labour Party/ Arbeiderpartiet), which is essentially a marxist /communist party (the same party Breivik shot up youth party of), changed their doctrines of pro-mass immigration to against it after the attacks. Did they change because of the attacks or was it unrelated to them?
If the attack wasn't partisan-biased, the landmark probally would be approved of. These communist fuckers would have pulled the holocaust card for ages, and only they would benefit from it.
Post-Utoya changed a lot. Considering such a huge amount of the future leaders of Arbeiderpartiet/Labour party either got killed or scared out of politics, political landscape changed.
Also, it made a lot of people get angry. Whatever reasons they had to alter their doctrine, it makes sense from the communist perspective. Refugees / mass-immigration does not at all favour native-workers, it displaces them. The fact that they fly the flag of being the "Workers Party" and have completely ignored the workers for so many years is idiotic to begin with.
William Morales
>Post-Utoya changed a lot. Considering such a huge amount of the future leaders of Arbeiderpartiet/Labour party either got killed or scared out of politics, political landscape changed. >Also, it made a lot of people get angry. Whatever reasons they had to alter their doctrine, it makes sense from the communist perspective. Refugees / mass-immigration does not at all favour native-workers, it displaces them. The fact that they fly the flag of being the "Workers Party" and have completely ignored the workers for so many years is idiotic to begin with. At least if you fall to communism you won't fall to the refugees. >If the attack wasn't partisan-biased, the landmark probally would be approved of. These communist fuckers would have pulled the holocaust card for ages, and only they would benefit from it.
What did you think of the attack when you heard about it?
Henry Cruz
What are you saying, that he didn't kill anyone and shot himself?
Ayden Martin
>They got to their senses and realized that mass-immigration is bad for the workers that vote for them. Wow, I didn't know that. So did Brevik succeed? How will he be received when he gets out?
Cooper Allen
no, i was referancing how Utoya started. You won't hear it anywhere else.
Probally get killed by that guy that lost his daughter who seems very spiteful.
>What did you think of the attack when you heard about it?
I was on Sup Forums when it happend, ABB's facebook and pictures were posted here before the attack was even done, and before media even caught wind.
I didn't really care, but I did watch the entire court case out of interest. I'm indifferent to it, but i pretend for when normies bring it up that i cared.
Brody Fisher
>Probally get killed by that guy that lost his daughter who seems very spiteful. I cannot fault someone for avenging a family member no matter what the circumstances. >I'm indifferent to it, but i pretend for when normies bring it up that i cared. I think most of us here know that feel.
Isaiah Morales
Why doesn't he reply to my letters, anons?
Austin Young
Anyone that didn't know him prior to the attack have their letters censored / not turned over to him.
Same goes for him sending letters out.
Eli Cox
I just saw he only got 21 years for the bombing and the shootings. That has to be a weird society you guys are living in. I get that the courts can just add time to his sentence indefinitely, but that is probably worse for your society than the lenient sentencing.
Anthony Morgan
>offtopic, but the captchas have been ridiculously long lately
it means google is tracking you for being a dissident.
Dominic Richardson
breivik-kun
Oliver Campbell
>Probally get killed by that guy that lost his daughter who seems very spiteful. Will anyone protect him? Does he have fans in Norway? He must, you're Norweigan. >I cannot fault someone for avenging a family member no matter what the circumstances. I agree user What did you write? >checked Figures.
Camden Kelly
It's possible to be detained indefinately here.
He was sentanced to 21 years of "Forvaring", not 21 years of prison.
It's something that can be extended until he dies.
If court deems him to still be a danger, that it can repeat itself either by him directly or proxy then he'll just be sentanced to another 21 years.
Depending on what happens in future, he might be out of prison already in 10 years (17 years total), because prison year is not 365 days here.
>Will anyone protect him? Does he have fans in Norway? He must, you're Norweigan. He probally will have to go to russia or something, unless people forget. And the left probally wont let go of this for quite some time.
Jeremiah Jones
Yeah I read that about the indefinite prison sentence. Here that sort of thing is very illegal for the government as it qualifies as cruel and unusual punishment which is laid out as illegal for the government in the bill of rights. When they wrote our legal system into being they assume the government will always trend towards oppression, so to me at least that kind of open ended seems horrifying. That could just be culturally learned though, maybe it's a good idea to keep punishing people for the same crime over and over again.
Justin Moore
this is LITERALLY our six billion
Jose Allen
Some people just don't get it, and have to be locked away until they die. They just never adapt or change. Prison is not punishment, it is rehabilitation.
That is the philosophy we utilize, if people resist or do not accept to be rehabilitated, then their stay in prison has not fulfilled it's purpose.
if breivik qualifies (i.e. he has been rehabilitated), he'll be let out. That is unless corruption has reached the instance evaluating him at that point, or courts.
Anthony Davis
>They got to their senses
Bullshit, they want to increase the number of Syrian "refugees" by tens of thousands, they haven't changed at all.
Colton Torres
>they haven't changed at all. Time for parole
Logan Phillips
You're blinded by partisan politics if you really think that right now.
They actually have been putting down their voting power and forcing coalition away from taking in more of them (after the incident in northern norway)
If you don't know what incident that is, then you're retarded.
Specifically, the incident where some (((Syrian Reguees)) came over russian border, then proceeded to demand SPECIFICALLY that white ethnic norwegians should come clean toilets they themselves had dirtied, and refused to clean it even when offered cleaning equipment.
They (est. 900+) were deported within 7 days after that, and refugees haven't been popular at all amongst ANY of the political parties after that. (besides KRF)
TL:DR political climate because of right wing minority coalition == KRF wants refugees and is in goverment right now, Arbeiderpartiet voted it down. (rejected proposal).
You really think AP that has 45% of the seats in parliament can't instantly approve of more refugees? Retard.
Aiden Flores
Breivik's only fault was that he got caught.
Carson Perry
photo from utoya a day or two before Breivik went there to kill them, is he still yourguy???
Blake Murphy
>So did Brevik succeed? i would say yes, at least partially.
i remember that after the attack, the view of immigration changed from people not really discussing it/not voicing their opinion (at least partially due to it being taboo to say things like "i don't want immigrants") to an actual debate and discussion. newspapers had no choice but to write about it now, and it was easy to see in the comment field of newspaper articles that people were very interested in commenting on such articles, especially negative to immigration. i remember i feared it would go the other way through some deranged empathy gone wild (we need more immigrants now, let's not lose to this terrorist!), but no.
"luckily" he did no succeed in killing any famous politicians, like former female prime minister gro harlem brundtland which i think was one of his main targets (planned to decapitate her i think), she did not go to the island though. she is quite dear to some people still and that might have led people's opinions in a different way. his victims were just nobodies, some even mixed/immigrants themselves, so it was different.
Eli Hernandez
>They (est. 900+) were deported within 7 days after that,
and you believe this? Retard.
We also get a lot of immigrants from Sweden, and don't think for one second that those "Swedes" are white. Sweden is giving niggers Swedish citizenship and sending them over to Norway.
Nicholas Murphy
You just have to admire Breivik for the execution of his plan. A genius!
And he even attacked the right people. Not some token mud niggers - but the future commie leaders.
Hunter Thompson
>monument
For what? It was a legitimate target. Plus it was rich white people who got killed. Brevik was only doing precisely what liberals suggest the end game should be anyway.
Brandon Scott
>rich white people
Depends on definition of rich / poor. I'd say they are lower middle-class, or higher lower-class at best.
They aren't from the "right families". They don't come from families with wealth and priviledge.
I grew up in the lower end of the higher-class / upper middle class and can say none of these people grew up in the rich parts of Oslo, and never will get there.
Brandon Ward
You Americans literally have LIFE sentences...
that's as indefinite for the prisoner as a "true" indefinite sentence
plz don't lecture scandinavians on crime and punishment (besides rape laws, which I admit are shit)
Brandon Flores
The opposite of Australia. Labor here was staunchly anti-refugee. Now they have flipped since coming under Trudeau style leadership (leadership that has donated millions to Soros and Clinton owned NGO's coincidentally).
It's probably why they keep losing despite everyone hating the cuckservatives.
Jaxson Torres
>Prison is not punishment, it is rehabilitation. And this is the difference. Norway/Denmark/Sweden see it as rehab, USA see it as punishment ONLY. This is why their return to prison rate is so much higher than ours.
Parker Morris
Yeah. Finally someone who just shot the anti-Israel kids. Now we can finally dedicate ourselves to sucking Israel's cock.
I'm so tired of you retards not understanding what Ap is, how wide a tent that party is, that it's the last remnant of the nationalist left, and that we now risk having a generation of left wingers without nationalist leanings, etc.
You just don't get it. He didn't shoot the cucks. He shot all the ones that might grow up to not be cucks.
You fucking idiots. We have daily Richard Spencer Shillthreads, where we discuss whether or not he's a shill. But nobody even asks the question if someone controlled, Breivik, helped him out, or steered him down any specific path. Because that's too uncomfortable.
Mason Sanchez
Friend, you're blinded by toxic idealism. You need to look at things from a neutral perspective, you're too embedded in partisan train of thought.
If you don't get in the middle (thougth pattern) you'll never be able to see the larger picture, and remain in the dark.
Enlighten yourself, friend. There's more to it than just ignorant hate / dislike of things just because you don't agree with it. If you're ever to understand left politics, you'll have to take a step back.
And yes, 900 did get deported. Who cares about the swedes, borders are closed.
Yep
Labour Party here, translates better to the "Workers Party", which is basically 1:1 communist meaning as you can get. It's the party for the workers.
Ethan Wilson
Everyone in Norway is rich by Ausfailian standards.
Jackson Turner
Very zen of you.
What happened to the pedophile ring?
Angel Martin
dead commies are dead commies
the nap does not apply to communists. it's like smoking out a roach nest.
Caleb Nguyen
> Ap > Rich white kids
No, AUF is filled with all sorts of kids. Rich and poor, from every part of the country. Again, Breivik didn't kill the cucks. He killed the leftists that may end up not being cucks.
It's amazing how you don't ask the basic fucking questions that needs to be asked here.
But in order to do that, you'd need to actually know about AUF, Ap, what their roles in politics are, what their views on (((certain polities))) are, etc. And we can't expect the rest of the world to care. You would also need to ask the question of what actually is going to happen some 20 years down the line. Finally you have to ask the question of who's benefiting.
You'll find a lot of your answers echoes common wisdom on Sup Forums
Caleb Jones
jfc....
Nicholas Sullivan
>He killed the leftists that may end up not being cucks. I like my ice hot
Noah Evans
I wish you'd go back to your facebook group. You clearly have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and using google and/or wikipedia is too hard for you.
Protip: What is Ap/Labour's stance on the refugee crisis? What did they do when the conservatives suggested a large set of ordinances and changes to the law that would stem the tide of refugees, and give them credit for it?
Why did they do that?
Leo Cruz
I'd probally compare lower end to abbos, I'm not particularily generous in my view of them.
Poor people are trash, and weigh down the economy. They cannot contribute enough, and just get in the way for progress, because they are allways lagging after the rest of us.
I'm not that versed on the pedo shit.
You'll stagnate mentally if you stray down the path you're taking. Shut-in and no growth. There cannot be left without right, cannot be right without left.
You're like an amputee, but politically. Constantly getting mad from phantom pains from the limbs you've lost.
Lincoln Flores
You know that 14 year olds are going to be cuckier than when they're 24 year old right?
Now think about this youth camp, run by other kids. Is it going to be cucky? Yes. Are they going to be cucks the rest of their lives? No.
Thomas Cooper
"guys I swear, those commies are BASED! they want to take away your stuff, put your kids in gulags and tax everything to death BUT AT LEAST THEY DONT LIKE ISRAEL!"
Landon Cox
It was the same here. The Labor party was a socialist party. Right and left faction. Both manifested from the various workers unions. The Right faction was comprised of workers and union stewards. The Left the lawyers and journalists of the unions and academia. The Left faction has completely taken over, as our union heavy industries have decreased and our unions were smashed in the 90's (with the co-operation of the Left faction who at the same time increasingly turned to obtaining power via mass non-white migration and the provision of gibs to these "new Australians").
Now they campaign based solely on identity politics and gibs. Workers rights/protections are essentially in the garbage bin of history.
Aiden Morris
Would you kindly show us where they ever suggested this?
Jonathan Cox
tell me more about those based communists xD
Matthew Barnes
desu, it's only the youth faction of AP that supports boycotting israel. Main branch has stopped that quite some time ago.
Israel in general isn't very popular here tough, in the vocal medias. Much of that vocalness comes out of muslims / appologist leftists / radical communists like Tjen Folket, which constitutes less than 0.1% of the population.
Noah Cook
Well, we know Brevik was a big champion of (((them))).
Our understanding of his target is shaped by our understanding of U.K. and Australian Labor, which is essentially anti-white, pro-Islam and pro-mass non-white migration. For Ameriburgs they probably equate his targets to Democrats.
Jeremiah Parker
in every communist literature ever?
Cameron Barnes
Go fuck yourself. You're making retarded statements with only cursory resemblance to reality, and then refuse to actually back up anything you say.
Christopher Morales
your helicopter ride has been booked, comrade
Gabriel Watson
Why!! It's a beautiful monument.
Norway is stupid, fuck that Shit country
Christopher Fisher
tbhfamquam, you clearly an idiot.
Most socialists here are nationalists.
If you don't understand what that implies, then you're retarded.
sadly, right wing nationalists never seem to understand this, they completely exclude left in their train of thought.
National Socialism is unity, not seperation of thought.
Asher Mitchell
The AUF didn't write those, so go fuck yourself.
Norwegian Labour basically threw their weight behind the conservatives immigration cockblock, letting them have a 2/3rds+ majority and the ability to pass any laws they wanted to. It's not a monolithic party. It's a big tent that use the party whip to get shit done. There are cucks in there, and there are nationalists too. But they're not so childish as to fuck the country over to win elections. They do actually want to make things better, even if they disagree on methods.
Zachary Cruz
Switch to legacy captcha
>pic related
William Moore
>Are they going to be cucks the rest of their lives? Is there a guarantee for that? >No
Aaron Myers
I love how terrible the shoop is.
Benjamin Young
It's forced socialist unity, and for that you can fuck off.
Tyler Hughes
You're right, there's none. Just like there's no guarantee that you'll not roll 666 6es from a given dice in a row. But averages and statistics are funny that way.
Can't you take your ancap friend and go back to fucking reddit?
Mason Sanders
>But averages and statistics are funny that way. I'm sure you'll be able to provide some of them to back up your claims, right?
Jayden Kelly
forced national socialism. Our top priority is ourselves. Rest of the world can burn.
Carter Miller
>Most socialists here are nationalists Haha only a Norway fag would Belive this. What a shit country
Asher Allen
Drumpf
Aaron Young
You're unfortunate enough to be swedish, it's undertstandable you're spiteful and jealous.
Isaiah Hall
>he doesn't have a Sup Forums Pass Lmaoing @ ur life
Oliver Morgan
yeah sure, secure the future of white children by killing 100 white children, what could go wrong?
Matthew Green
i just click the pictures of the cars.
Jacob Wright
Why would we be jealous at you? We actually got a history and a industry,what does Norway have? Fucking oil and no history
Norway is the most irrelevant Scandinavian country, even worse than Denmark. Fuck Norgay
Mason Butler
>the virgin sellout >the chad sale
Dominic Williams
Least Norway will still be a country in a decade
Bentley Torres
you're the best, hamletbro
Noah Brown
He killed socialist kids, getting rid of source is more important than getting rid of the actual problem.
Isaac Thomas
to be fair, that would have looked awesome
Leo Robinson
Fucking pussies. We Canals and dynamited many mountains and hills to make out Interstate system.
Robert Jenkins
>We actually got a history and a industry No, and no.
Chinks bought your cars, remember? You're probally thinking of finnland.
>remained neutral during WW2
>joined EU
both of these two conditions have contributed to swedens current ailment.
Aaron Collins
Belive me user, Sweden will still be the same in a decade. Our economy has never been stronger, and our people has never been richer.
David Clark
>Joined eu Being a member is still better than Norways shitty EÖS deal
Xavier Flores
>And its been freezing up, turning grey and nothing happens when I hit next. That may be on my end though. Holy fuck that happened to me, too. I thought my browser was acting up. Lost so many posts, finally switched to legacy now. Google has really been doing a shit job with Captcha.
Christian Barnes
This is actually true, the sad thing is that we had a good trade deal before the EOS shit.
Aiden Peterson
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Colton Cook
kek reminds me of that famous feminist that now regrets starting the whole movement because the whole thing turned into shitfest. Anyway better safe than sorry therefore I agree with commander Breivik.
