is by having a healthy and positive white identity movement?
No Nazi shit. No hate.
A movement/organization so finely executed that it simply cannot be framed as hateful, racist, bigoted, etc. (of course the Left will try, but the organization/movement has already planned on how to outframe this attack).
White love. White positivity. No supremacy, just positive white identity. That could literally be on a banner "NO SUPREMACY, JUST POSITIVE WHITE IDENTITY [HEART EMOJI]"
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You have to use buzzwords like: love, health, positivity, etc.
To attack the Left (and play defense at the same time), you have to use words like "anglophobic" or "Caucasiaphobia", or something along these lines so as to frame the opposition as being the ones filled with hate and fear of white people just because of the color of their skin (seriously, have you guys learned nothing from the Left?).
Never play defense, always play offense--offense is your only defense. Yet your offense has to be tied to the "love" frame, not the hate frame. When attacking the Left and any opposition, it has to come from a place of "love" and "equality", not hate.
It also needs to start off without any segregation desires, ethnic state desires, "white nationalism" desires, etc. It simply has to be about white people getting together and sharing a message of love for white people, white culture, and white identity.
In fact, now is the perfect time because the frame is this: "due to the small group of hate-filled white supremacists and neo-nazis, many positive, love-filled white people have been swept up beneath this brand, in a sense, casting a negative light on all white people. So we (the movement/organization) want to help distance ourselves from these hate-filled groups and help build the positive white identity that's severely missing in this culture do to the small extreme groups out there. We’re going to be the positive change, etc. (the key thing, however, is to speak minimally about the “nazis” and “white supremacists” because just by even mentioning these groups , it ties the movement/organization to them—this is the principle of never playing defense, because defense causes you to inadvertently fall within the frame you’re trying to escape). Another line: “white” has been somehow branded as a negative term in our culture, which is really sad and obviously not right as no race should have their skin color branded as negative. So we are going to change that through positive white messaging. Just love.
Also, initially, the movement/organization needs to be so distanced from hate that it should not even focus on hate crimes committed by blacks/non-whites against whites. This is something that would be slowly added later, as the movement grows, because this part is indeed important, but this cannot be part of the initial movement/organization.
Seriously, have you guys learned nothing from the left?
Do you guys know nothing about framing?
Do you guys know nothing about subversion?
This is the key to toppling the Left. Through a positive, healthy white identity movement. The Left knows this, which is why they have done everything in their power to prevent this from happening, and which is why to this day this does not exist. We are at a time in our culture where there is a great market demand for this. Now is the time.
Can't have 14 without the 88.
Left is really fucking retarded anyway.
wont work
they will twist everything, regardless of how hypocritical it makes them
>they will twist everything, regardless of how hypocritical it makes them
This.
You can't have a healthy and positive white identity movement without nazi shit, when white identity is literally nazi.
I do agree that it's a good time for tactical moderation
But this love your race stuff never works, white people don't automatically like each other all that much.
It's just that practically speaking we have to work together or we'll be living in hell on earth in like a decade
It's called outframing. Yes, it would work, just read about. Literally walking with a banner that reads "No supremacy, just positive white identity"
Yes, it's absolutely possible. Not only is it possible, the desire is there. It's fucking palpable. The need and want for this is there.
no, you're wrong. In fact, you're SO WRONG that I think you're a shill.
Bump
It's subversion. It has to start off as all positive lovey dovey 100% then it could grow. How the fuck do you think we got here where the entire culture is shitting down the throats of white people and Western Civilization is so fucking cucked. In fact, the Left STILL to this day uses this as their frame, people need to get this strategy and understand that this is how it's played.
Sure cia
Why dont you just dress like a bunch of antifas and cause a happening so the people start to hate them?
Is not like they register themselves on a list or something, get a mask and burn some flags while singing the internationale, would be enough to turn a few normies against them
white identity is not literally Nazi are you fucking retarded?
>No Nazi shit. No hate.
Call (((centrist)))
>(of course the Left will try, but the organization/movement has already planned on how to outframe this attack)
why you wrote that?
>You have to use buzzwords like: love, health, positivity, etc.
read, it is done on a massive scale, you don't see it because you are left...
>Never play defense, always play offense--offense is your only defense
Never read a book on military tactics
>because just by even mentioning these groups , it ties the movement/organization to them
so, everything right of Marx will be framed as Nazi by those having the control over the informational vectors the ""majority"" consumes
>the movement/organization needs to be so distanced from hate that it should not even focus on hate crimes committed by blacks/non-whites against whites
jewish left?
>Seriously, have you guys learned nothing from the left?
more than you think, nothing you understand
Read Alinsky, maybe you get it then (((moderate)))
Europaphobia?
are you retarded? you can't even speak English or make a coherent sentence.
I don't think so because the messaging doesn't depict "whiteness" enough.
You are an idiot who should try to convince some sceptics.
Exactly! These KKK types are failures in every way!
>Muh fagg Niggers XDDD
Time, time again political movements only work when showing positives from the outset.
For example, Brexit passed because EU real life shills only focused on how ebil Farage and leave voters were. Where as leave voters focused on the benefits of freedom from EU oppression.
One cannot be victorious by defining a movement on what they aren't. The KKK/NatSoc larp fags only focus in what they aren't, Normie's don't know what they are.
btw, why did you wrote
>(of course the Left will try, but the organization/movement has already planned on how to outframe this attack)
>is by having a healthy and positive white identity movement?
>No Nazi shit. No hate.
It goes to show, when the mass doesn't flow.
And then you wonder why some blacks complain about their niggers.
So have fun, you got an idea they won't listen.
>White love. White positivity. No supremacy, just positive white identity.
this
>No Nazi shit. No hate.
So no calling out those who push the leftist agenda and do not show dislike for the leftist agenda.
It is impossible to call out the leftist propagandist MSM and Democrat party leadership like Jewish Chuck Schumer, Dianna Feinstein, Adam Schiff, Al Fraken, DWS, or Bernie Sanders without being labeled antisemitic or a Nazi. Too many Jews involved at this point to for this to be possible.
The left will call any rejection of their agenda hate so diluting ourselves to placate the irrational left is not going to happen.
Any white identity movement is going to be a mix of different people and will only grow out of necessity. The secret is hatred of niggers because of hatred from niggers.
It's impossible. You know why? Because "white" identity is based entirely on the exclusion of others. It's an inherently aggressive and negative identity.
White pride? You might as well be proud to be heterosexual, or proud to not be handicapped.
Are you kidding, white people in the masses are yearning just for white identity. Period. Not even supremacy or segregation or ethno-nationalism. Just white identity. White people have been intentionally robbed from this which creates a psychological effect--this is , in short, how you have so many white people supporting black lives matter, latching on to other cultures, and voting against their group. Because they're devoid of their own positive and healthy white racial identity.
You're so fucking naive.
Anytype of white love movement is immediately going to be called a Nazi rally and get physically assaulted by antifa.
What are you going to do? Get the shit kicked out of you and then get branded as terrorists by the media? Then get doxxed out of your job by leftists? And then continue to be peaceful?
Be reasonable. This can only end in carnage.
You're an idiot. You're basically letting the left define you.
>No hate
pic related tells why that is the most monumentally retarded thing you could possibly say in the face of white genocide.
Anglophobia.
>uses BLM as an example of a (((love an peace))) movement
Just get the hell out
>the only way to beat them is to play by their rules.
Didn't you fags learn anything from Trump? Do what's natural. What the average man is afraid to say, do or even think and then *never* under any circumstance apologize for it.
That's it. Build it and they will come. Stop complicating things.
OP is a fucking retard.
He literally described Richard Spencer.
Dress nice, talk about loving white identity, never mention JQ, tell blacks how much you respect them as equal but different.
And how the fuck did that work out?
Oh yeah he the biggest Nazi in the history of the world now.
Fuck the Jews and fuck the niggers too.
Lock and load cunts.
We race war now.
1488 gas the kikes
>No hate.
Being white and not wanting to kill yourself is "hate".
Quit being a fucking cuck!
>based entirely on the exclusion of others
wrong. It's based on loving your white heritage. Naturally this type of thinking includes rejecting the false dogma that only whites are guilty of fighting for land and slavery
Endorse this idea
Our beautiful people's natural inclinations to peace and harmony helped get us in this mess, only right to use it now to get back out
Nothing about the 14 requires the 88.
fantastic post user
really appreciate it
hope that this gets internalized by the right, it's the proper way to move forward and legitimize
wrong, completely wrong.
>44
this
as a mantra
STAND YOUR FUCKING GROUND
It's not placate. It's tactical. This is literally how the left has done so much damage, by literally embracing this frame.
Don't you see Antifa? They are hate-filled but their hate is framed as coming from love. This is why CNN and other propagandists don't cover them and condemn them, because they are sill playing within their political strategy.
Did Queen Isabella De Castilia need swastikas to kick the Jews and Mussies out?
There have been people on Sup Forums advocating for the creation of Right Wing Safety Squads for years now.
A Right Wing Safety Squad would show up in a white t-shirt with a red elephant surrounded by a red circle, aping the Red Cross logo.
They would have basic first aid kits, miniature constitutions, bill of rights leaflets, stuff like that.
And they would aid anyone. Pepper spray victims on both sides. Blunt force trauma victims on both sides.
The Right Wing Safety Squads would come to the aid of anyone in need. And in doing so, the Right Wing Safety Squads would endear themselves in the heart of the USA.
But so far no one has the balls to actually do it.
OPTICS gentlemen. OPTICS. One must always think of the optics in any course of action these days.
The Right Wing Safety Squads could guarantee Trump a second term.
Richard Spencer could guarantee the opposite.
It's a neutral statement. You've been conditioned too hard if that's your impression. That's my point exactly, this branding/framing has been done so effectively by the Left of suppressing white identity that this is the key to dismantling their game.
Believe it or not. This is the key.
Youre fucking delusional if you think that goodfeels is going to defeat the most pervasive subversive enemy ever fought. Not only has it not ever work, it makes people complacent.
The only way to defeat them is to kill them. You want a bloodless war of ideals. No war ever won was bloodless. This is not how reality works.
Is that Tomi Lahren? She'll make beautiful white babies when she marries a white ma...oh just saw some pictures posted which i won't repost here. google them.
Being healthy and positive is good and should be pushed as much as possible with everyone, but it is not a key to somehow being "allowed" to have a white identity movement. ((They)) will not allow it to happen. You could be white Ghandi but if you don't let yourself be taken advantage of eventually you will be painted and framed to be the piece of shit they tell everyone you are.
I've been saying this for a long time OP.
National Socialism as an ideology is actually very friendly and presentable. Most idiots on the left don't even understand what Nat-Soc even is, they literally just see a swastika and freak out. It would be SO FUCKING EASY to just rebrand National Socialism, give it a different name, give it a different symbol (not Pepe) and make it way more appeal-able to people.
As a test, memorize a bunch of classical Nat-Soc talking points and policies, and then ask your liberal friends if they agree with them (of course leaving out the dead give away stuff about Jews and Germans). Most liberals and SJWs will unknowingly agree to almost everything in the Nat-Soc doctrine.
We have to rebrand the system, because you're never, ever, going to get the majority of people wearing swastika armbands again. The vast majority of people are too brainwashed after years of school and media. Even the most rational debate isn't going to make them suddenly change their mind about Nazism.
>(((alt-right)))
>go to unite the right rally thats intention is to bring together the newer moderates and libertarians with the older conservatives and religious repubs
>the donald shows up wanting to be special snowflakes calling themselves "alt-right" instead of just assimulating within the republican party
>alt-right is attackable by the left without scrutinizing the whole repub base
>media ascends a leader for "us" ie richard spencer even though he doesnt endorse trump
>one person gets out of hand and everyone is labeled alt-right despite the whole point of the rally was to unite republicans far and wide
>lefties riot and loot and its just considered a individualist group
>alt-right do something bad and the whole republican group is considered responsible
I TOLD U FAGS TO NOT ASSOCIATE WITH THE TERM ALT-RIGHT LONG AGO
IT WAS THEIR ABILITY TO DISCREDIT US WITHOUT PULLING ANOTHER DEPLORABLES
FUCK U fAGGOTS AND YOUR NEED TO BE DIFFERENT
>but muh alt-right tho
youre fucking repubs you idiots!
>*never* under any circumstance apologize for it
This. The moment you apologize you recognize you were wrong - and then who will defend your ideas if not even YOU will? Don't show and say more than you have to, but if you do, don't apologize, don't give a single inch.
>It's based on loving your white heritage
which used to include only Anglos, but was gradually relaxed to let in the Germans, Irish, French, Italians, and Eastern Europeans.
here's a question. can a black man with a white parent be proud of his white heritage?
>found right wind safety squad group to help others neutrally
>enrollment takes off
>have hundred of thousands of members
>make good optics
>shit goes down
>pivot safety squad into death squad, easy transition
yeah, let's prepare for the future
This is how black people did it when they were fighting for equal rights.
This is part of the process. If you come from a place of love, and the other side attacks you, they fall within the frame of hate.
This is why the Left fucking uses this frame for everything they do.
>brainwashed brainlet shill detected
Of course their is hate, I fucking hate the Left, Jews, black culture, etc. But that's not how you play the game.
The key is through a positive and healthy white identity movement TO START.
What is saying is not wrong. I believe he means that the (((media))) will always paint us to be nazis regardless of how we try to frame ourselves.
Exactly what is saying - they have that power so long as they maintain the monopoly on MSM, they get to paint the picture. The solution? We must either create our own MSM agencies, or tear down or evict them from theirs.
Only then can we stop them from manipulating the masses with their Marxist and Zionist bullshit.
>wont work
>they will twist everything, regardless of how hypocritical it makes them
Of course they will try. You have to make it difficult. They can say whatever they want but the viewer still has to find it credible. When the media gets pictures of one guy waving a stupid Nazi flag then they can say that the whole group is Nazis when it isn't.
how are you solving the dichotomy of white supremacy and a positive healthy movement?
It would be nice if some enterprising redpilled musicians and corporate people got together and started hosting right wing festivals and events. create your own alternate realities against the left's current hegemony. How much more fun would a SXSW or coachella type festival be with lots of whites instead of mongrels everywhere. Trumpfest 2018 held in bumfuck south dakota or some shit. You could get 3-500,000 people with good planning and organizing
>This is how black people did it when they were fighting for equal rights.
Yeah, because they were whining to whites, who are the only race compassionate enough to listen to "love" talk.
The "alt right" is lead by lefties m8, they are supposed to be toxic.
>postive white identity
In my degrading toilet of a country 'white identity' is synonymous with acceptance of other races. There's no room for ourselves, just help the less fortunate.
As that's the case, whenever a lash out happens or any sort of comment on our current state of misfortune it all turns out we're racist.
Example, the housing market is fucked. Our young'ns have been in the queue for 10 to 15 years in order to get an apartment - they won't leave home until they're close to 30. Why?
Because the state gives complex owner double the rent for each migrant they give an apartment to.
Is this unfair? Yes. Can we do something about it without getting stigmatised? No.
White identity in this country is nothing but
>suck it up
Out of energy and tolerance to even attempt what you suggest.
>cultural war is equivalent to conventional warfare
How do you think Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire after decades of strong persecution and executions?
An open hand is more welcoming than a closed fist.
They frame themselves as coming from a place of love, what don't you get. They love their fellow black brother/sister and want police to stop killing them. That's their FRAME. Do you understand what framing is?
That doesn't mean that's what they DO. This is how you get away with shit. This is how you play politics.
If you frame yourself strong enough as a firefighter, you can literally light someone's house on fire.
>You're basically letting the left define you.
Nigger what? By not shying away from my own politics because the left says its bad?
YOU'RE the one saying "D-dont be NatSoc, the left doesn't like it"
all white identity movements are nazi
get fucked whitey, your women crave bbc
Except we're still a good few years away from any war you idiot. We could always make the movement more presentable to normies, and grow our numbers. There's no reason to turn your back on your fellow white-man yet.
Lesson to be learned: Hillary lost the election because she stopped trying to convince Trump supporters to vote for her, and she started attacking them instead. There's never any reason to galvanize yourself until the day of the rope.
Unless you want to put your money where your mouth is and go start the race war right now?
Also, I never used BLM as an example of love and peace don't know where the fuck you got that.
White=native european. Not that hard. I guess if some blue eyed lightskin black guy wants to be proud he can i dont care
Why the fuck wouldnt I be proud to be a functional member of white society. You SHOULD proud of not being a worthless cripple or nonreproductive faggot.
Completely agree with you. I really like Damigo for this:
Doesn't sound edgy enough.
White identity can never be positive because it is EXCLUSIVE. Positive identities have to be INCLUSIVE. You can be half-Italian and welcomed by the Italian, or half-Japanese and welcomed by the Japanese, or half-Nigerian and welcomed by the Nigerians, but half-white and welcomed by the white nationalists? lol no.
Don't you realize that our only ALLIES are going to be whites? The whole idea of making the movement more presentable isn't to attract fucking niggers, it's to get more whites on our side. How fucking dumb are you?
Like earth is something you wrap around the dog so the thing won't bite itself from flees..
>a healthy and positive white identity movement?
All "whiteness" is their enemy you dumb idiot. There will never be an allowable amount of "whiteness" to the cultural marxists. NO AMOUNT.
How fucking stupid do you have to be to believe they would let you have ANYTHING?
>First
STAND YOUR FUCKING GROUND
>Second
We have the Alt-lite and sceptics for that kind of stuff
>Third
Why did you wrote the sentence in brackets in OP, answer the question.
Damigo is 5'4".
No one is going to respect that.
No, it's time to hit hard, we have the momentum, the line has been crossed blood has been split, we must keep moving forward, we can not defeat the left by becoming the left, let them cover their violence with singing kombya, the hypocrisy makes any decent person sick.
Dead on post. Unfortunately the swastika is tainted. We can't use it again, we can't rise a literal heir to the Third Reich. People do actually agree with the majority of National Socialist ideas. They'll just freak out the second anyone associates these ideas with NS Germany or mentions the JQ. We can have a spiritual heir, but the imagery? Maybe only once this spiritual heir succeeds. Maybe Fascism could serve as a stepping stone for a lot of the ideas, as it's more palatable. But full on, self-declared National Socialist movement? As much as it pains me, not right now, unless through a LOT of blood, something we're not capable of doing yet.
I would not welcome any half-white, but certain exceptions who strongly believe in the right of whites to ethnostate would be greeted with open arms.
Also
>half Japanese
>welcomed by the Japanese
>is by having a healthy and positive white identity movement?
You are 100% correct.
But it's never going to happen
because the white people who are drawn to the movement
are so broken and butthurt about life
they're going to bring their issues with them.
I guess Japanese steel can't trade for German blueprints.
Yeah stand your ground. Stand your ground to demand white identity to be recognized. This is my point. This is why I'm here typing this shit.
We have to stand our ground. Not apologize, or hide, but demand that white people have their own positive white identity and demand the current culture to stop being racist against white people.
BUT THE WAY TO ACHIEVE THIS IS THROUGH A WHITE IDENTITY MOVEMENT COMING FROM A PLACE OF LOVE. If it's tied to hate, it's dead. This is why the Left gets away with literally murder, because they've framed everything that they do as coming from buzzwords like "love" and shit.
Again, they key to destroying the Left's game is--at first--through a healthy and POSITIVE white identity movement.
Honestly it could be used as a bonus. He comes off as less intimidating. He's the best speaker and is a veteran.
Remember your highest goal.
Put yourself in the Schrodinger's future. You explain to your ghost children or grandchildren that you failed because the SS uniform was tha bomb, and you wanted to LARP as someone with the blood of millions of Whites and Jews on their hands.
The goal is achievable. Do you want the goal, or do you want to look cool?
There may be something to this.
German scum left already has admitted fear to this.
breitbart.com
White identity politics is here to stay. Even though I think Spencer conducts himself like a mope.
Pepe literally drives the left simply insane through the smug smile.
A happy white family and good attitudes is cuts through the enemy.They have no idea how to manage themselves around their betters.
Any question about other races and people's problems is easy to pass off with any rephrasing of, "That's unfortunate, I have my own problems to attend to."
>No Nazi shit
Everything pro-white will be labeled and treated as "Nazi", there's nothing you can do about it.
>No hate
Implying the "Nazis" were the one driven by hate.
>You have to use buzzwords
Really activates my almonds, but maybe the media isn't fair and it actually wants white people dead, so no amount of cucking is going to be rewarded, and you should lurk moar you bluepilled normalcuck.
>Don't you see Antifa? They are hate-filled but their hate is framed as coming from love. This is why CNN and other propagandists don't cover them and condemn them, because they are sill playing within their political strategy.
Not quite. Antifa are the foot soldiers of the Marxists. They are indoctrinated in colleges (soon, high schools and younger) and graded on their activism. The media are aligned with the ideology and goals of Marxists in academia and will defend them so long as they continue to be good little goyim.
If the Jews get the Right to massacre the Left like they're baiting for, those useful idiots will get mowed down of course, but the Jews will use that to force politicians to enact laws against hate speech, gun ownership, and everything else that makes the US exceptional and not cucked like the EU.
It will pave the way for our demise.
We shall call it C.A.P.P
The Committee for Anglo-Positive Policy.
>a kike spin off movement being pervasive and subversive destroys an entire culture instead of being wiped out
Kind of the entire fucking point
There is little difference in conventional and ideological warfare when one or the other leaves you powerless, in chains, or dead. The left never stops trying to subvert. Even if no ones shooting, youre a fucking fool if you think there isnt a war going on right now. It isnt a war that can be won "cold".
>You SHOULD proud of not being a worthless cripple or nonreproductive faggot.
"proud of not being like those shitty people"
It's a negative identity, defined by looking down on others.
>It also needs to start off without any segregation desires, ethnic state desires, "white nationalism" desires, etc
Then that would be dishonest and dishonesty is harder to defend than any amount of SS larping.
And you still haven't answered the question PR Nigger shill faggot
>This is why CNN and other propagandists don't cover them and condemn them
Oh yeah, that's why, not because antifa and CNN are funded by the same people.
You can't fucking have "white" in the name of your identity movement and not be framed as racist. It's impossible.
You're up against (((all))) of media, academia, entertainment, cultural marxists, leftists, cuckservatives, "civic nationalists", mainstream Judaism AND Christianity.
Wait for Gen Z and cultural shift in about 10 years. Save yourselves and your families from the coming crash and depression. Make babies and homeschool. That's all you can do.
Fuck you shill. The only way we're going to win is by killing people. We're just so long conditioned by you that we cannot yet widely admit that it's the truth.
You're missing a crucial component here: The media.
The media portrayed the civil rights movement with accuracy; that is, as a bunch of black dudes peacefully marching in the South as rabid, retarded racists committed illegal acts of physical violence against them.
Here, you fail to realize that even if every Nazi lays down on the ground and lets themselves get shot and killed, we will still be branded enemies of the US. There will never be any justice in this issue. And without justice, there will be civil unrest, which will lead to civil war.
Didn't even notice that part. Yeah, OP's out there.