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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
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users.wfu.edu/cottrell/eea97.pdf
youtube.com/watch?v=XjW374SuOho
youtu.be/ViN7rzPuXq8
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

How can you suppress nonwhite nationalism?

Seems like the left in North America will simply fall prey to Hispanic nationalism after a few decades of their open borders policy.

How to be communist, Spurdo explains in 3 simple steps

This should be the discussion of faggot that need to go back to lefty pol or reddit

oh get the fuck outta here

shekel for the good goy

>draw cartoon
>get rich

Gommunism worgs!

>137896380
Interbreed. Mate with their women and assume their creed along with yours. No dirty hispanics left to claim nationalism and no one can tell the difference between spanics and americans,

>COMMUNISM IS INEVITABLE SORT OF... MAYBE... IN THE FUTURE???

The pipe dream continues.

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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liguidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis

>Sdage for
Not real gommunism. Move on do nexd coundry XDDdDDD

Communism never works thats one reason why there isn't the soviet union today. All you commies were ever good for was fucking up Nazis in ww2

TFW poor white person (cannot even afford dentist) ib4 getta job, hardly any good jobs in my city and have to compete with third world guest laborers
TFW Marxist
TFW get blamed for Liberal identity politics
TFW I hear people on this board about talk about "marxist bankers" and "Marxist Hollywood" and "Marxist videogame industry"

Hey Hungary, can you tell us a bit about how the Soviets destroyed many beautiful landmarks in Budapest and other places for being "too nationalistic"? There was one Hungarian user that had a bunch of before/after pics.

White supremacist states don't work. They failed every time. Therefore it would be dumb to want to try it again.

neither does communism

Like clockwork.

The goal is to find a system that works. Even if its not textbook communism

Most communist systems end in a dictatorship even if they say it is communism. I would research the soviet union and the state of civilians there.

Communist showing his findings in the search for a working system of communism.

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What is wrong with a dictatorship who doesn't do anything unhitched? This isn't the 1940s anymore.

cuba

Name a successful modern communist country.

See thats what i dont understand. Where in nationalism is domination stated? LOL

I've seen those pics, but I don't have them. Soviets and commies idealized shutty ultraugly architecture that is basically 100% premade concrete. The style was dubbed "socialist realism", because even the ornamental ones were restricted to depicting supposedly "real", but idealized socialist workers and other revolutionary subjects.

Remind what Zimbabwe and South Africa are like now that whites aren't in charge.

Just because communists and neoliberals dogpile on a WN country to destroy it, that doesn't mean the system itself was bad.

South Africa was ruined because Soviets backed Mandela (a communist who ordered his men to burn white people alive), and also back by the US under Jimmy Cucker, who was a softy retard that didn't understand the geopolitical ramifications of what he was doing. He also let Iran and OPEC cuck us during his term.

Most of the first world successfully implemented forms of socialism

White supremacists cucks should be communists
Communism preserved white people on east europe far better than capitalism in the west

This is my favorite, the inscription says "All power to the working people!", and the working people look like niggers, LOL.

nice joke
sage

>half the planet declares war on you
>fight incredibly well, almost win
>only lose due to numbers
>"HAHA LOOKS LIKE YOUR POLITICAL SYSTEM DIDN'T WORK LOL"

how retarded are you

Marxism fails economically, nationalism fails because they get invaded for doing nothing wrong. countries that did not get invaded, like francoist Spain, are wildly successful

dido was nod real gommunist and was of revisionids xddddddDDD Xd :DDDD

nadionalism nod bard of gommunism if you gommunist you speak 1 language and nadionalism begining of nazi so nadionalism illegal XDDDD

if you do badriodig celebration or spoke in moder dongue XDD or do anyding oder dan sdarve yuo nod real gommunist and send of goolag. nod real gommunism XDDDD :DDDDD

see

>cuba
>successful

bernie sanders please go

Preserved white communists, not people. White people are illegal in the USSR and they get sent to the gulag.

Mandela implemented Neoliberal economic policies in South Africa not communist ones. Under Mandela many state owned companies were privatized

TFW Cuba is a third world country with a lower infant mortality rate the US

And they are collapsing. Sweden is great example, nearly 0% or development since they implemented "forms of socialism"

bumping for putting a stop to hate, through the ballot or the bullet.

Also a lower population in general. Hmmmmmm...........there might be a correlation...................

Just like Harry Potter, amirite?

At what point did I say socialism?

You have even lower standards that I expected. Your idea of Successful is a nation that regularly sees its citizens fleeing to America via life rafts akin to the refugee crisis of Europe?

Kill yourself red scum SAGE

based Finland

do you not understand how infant mortality rates are measured, size of the population has nothing to do with it

t. too dumb to be communist

Hey its the Alt-Left thread.
Don't forget to sage all alt left threads.

>open borders policy
>without establishing a socialist order first
Talk about putting the cart before the horse. Those borders get closed the fuck down. And you suppress non-white nationalism just like you suppress white nationalism.

When are you r-selected LARPers who are funded by NGOs gonna start protesting La Raza and BLM?

Seems like you only focus on white nationalism, and I have a good idea (((who))) is behind it.

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I don't control the Antifa tactics, so I can't tell if they will let themselves be subverted by the liberal establishment or not.

But they need to get more violent, not less.

SAGE goes in all fields

Too humane.

Labour Theory of Value (LTV):

Non arguments:

>If I dig a hole in my backyard and then fill it in I used labor but made no value! Commies BTFO!

Marx clarified (unlike adam smith) that only socially nessary labor (labor used to produce a commodity with use value) creates value. This is also the case if you spend 1000 years making a bed.

>Nature can create value as well. If an apple falls from a tree then value is created without labor

Marx also noted nature could create value.

>if labor determines price why is coca cola cheaper than bottled water?

Labor doesn't determine price. It determines value (not exchange value or use value) and correlates with the equilibrium price. Supply and demand determine price.

Machines cannot create value. If I make a machine that makes diamonds out of thin air then the value of a diamond falls below that of bricks now that they can be aquired with no work what so ever. Price might not fall because you can still manipulate supply and demand but value certainly does.

Some definitions.

Use value = How useful an object is.
Exchange value = Market value of a commidity. Different from use value. You can sell a beanie baby for 200$ but it is almost completely useless.
Value = the amount of congealed labor withing a commodity.


Some evidence of the LTV
users.wfu.edu/cottrell/eea97.pdf

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communism, everyone.

If labor determines value, then why are people willing to pay so much for trading cards that cost less than a penny to make?

fuck off alt-left faggot

China is pretty successful. Also quite communist.

communists can't even figure out what gender they want to be let alone begin to understand economics

absolutely pathetic

>when you can get fired anytime your boss pleases
>when you don't get pension payments by default, unless you work in public sector
>when you have to pay for healthcare
>when you join the """communist""" party for better private business opportunities and connections
>when you wage slave in multinational company 6 days a week

Not really communist. Seen that with my own eyes a few years ago. I saw a dozen guys get fired in 6 months in a small business, mostly for no other reason than the boss being an asshole.

China is a Han nationalist fascist state. They gave up gommunism after Mao died, and they made a deal with Nixon.

youtube.com/watch?v=XjW374SuOho

american education

It determines value (not use or exchange value) but not price

USSR was a Russian nationalist state. We gave up gommunism after Lenin died, and we made a deal with Hitler.

Nice.

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True in a way. Stalin did purge a lot of the sneaky Jews like (((Trotsky))).

Though I'd say it was more like a new Russian nationalist empire, since you buttraped the Baltics and Eastern Europe. Maybe it was a Slavic nationalist state.

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Communism = Slavery

It's simple math.

You might need to visit a capitalist country for a good education.

reminds me of pic related

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it's statecap you nigger

Who wins in a stupidity contest, you or the ancaps?

go move to a kibbutz

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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

-----------------------------------------
Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

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How exactly did SA fail? We got over run by niggers which lead to where we are today. Maybe you should read into your shitty image macros more.

>>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need"


Communism still has a ruling party that elevates the members position in society above that of the proles. Nice try dick head.

>shilling for communism on a site with posters from ex-commie countries

HAHAHA

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Tuck that graphic into your prolapsed as hole.

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We need to realise this plan

kys. On second thought, let my .223 do it for you.

youtu.be/ViN7rzPuXq8

>widely successful
>poorest country in western europe

Pick one

Why is there a thread on a board called politically incorrect about an ideology that has received praise from CNN, Mitt Romney, and every other faggot media jew puppet in the last week? Commies are not politically incorrect, you're exactly what the system endorses. Fuck off and die.

"""""ALPHA MALE"""""""

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I wish Anti-Communist Action were a thing when I see posts like these. Instead of wearing black, we'd wear brown shirts.

A Dodge Challenger, apparently

Blue eyes won't be very common in a commie eutopia.

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