When was the last time a masterpiece was created, in your opinion?

Ayden Robinson
Ayden Robinson

When was the last time a masterpiece was created, in your opinion?
For me it was probably Planetes, so 2003-4.

Brody Cruz
Brody Cruz

When will reddit stop shilling this show?
There have been loads of better shows in the meantime. Planetes wasnt even AOTS, let alone AOTY.

Jaxson Bennett
Jaxson Bennett

Go ahead and share your opinins then, user.
For me it's one of the GOAT.

Blake Howard
Blake Howard

Posting this won't bring moot back, user.

Ryan Thompson
Ryan Thompson

REDLINE was an audiovisual masterpiece. Story and characters not so much, but it didn't really detract from the experience.

Jeremiah Thompson
Jeremiah Thompson

Planetes has a distinct flavor to it, probably because it being hard scifi. Not many shows plunge into the hard scifi genre, so that's why it stood out. Sure, there's lots of other good shows since Planetes, but you still can't say it wasn't good. Heck, it might even be AOTS or AOTY back then, but I didn't watch the original airing and wasn't into online discussions back then, so who knows.

Austin Kelly
Austin Kelly

Setting - awesome. Hard sci-fi with a realistic view on what a future international community might look like. Good example of how private companies conquer space.

story - mediocre. starts out too slow and addresses unimportant stuff. Plot holes as to how a small band of 3rd world terrorists manages to infiltrate high security space stations. Main antagonist and supporting characters get away pretty much unpunished for the crimes they commited in the end for unexplainable reasons. Good main characters are even happy about that. Also deus ex machinas saving the main characters from the bs they cause.

characters - bad. from main characters that behave like they're taken out of your average afternoon shounen anime to annoying and unfunny side characters that don't serve the story in any why. Yes there's character development, but it can't improve things that weren't even there in the first place

visuals - good, sunrise did well as expected

in the end, an awesome premise was ruined by mediocre writing and characters that don't fit the setting. if oshii mamoru taken ont his show who knows what kind of marvel we could've gotten, GOAT possibly. But the way it is now, it's just a failed masterpiece

Christopher Morgan
Christopher Morgan

in any why
in any way

Jordan Carter
Jordan Carter

Mushishi.

Daniel Phillips
Daniel Phillips

Came here to post this.

Adam Nelson
Adam Nelson

great, but i loved tatami galaxy. i would have said anohana if they just did the first episode and never went any further. all episodes after that fell apart.

Brody Rodriguez
Brody Rodriguez

gr8 b8 m8

Ethan Lopez
Ethan Lopez

There's probably something I consider a masterpiece that's more recent, but this is what comes to mind.

James Parker
James Parker

Pretty much this.
Planetes had an interesting concept that kept me watching for about ten episodes, but the slow progession and the boring characters simply gave me no incentive to keep watching.

By the time I dropped it I had zero interest in what would happen to the characters or how the story would unfold, failing to captivate its viewers is a hallmark of a "failed masterpiece" if you ask me.

Watching the daily lives of a garbageman in space needs something other than visuals and a good premise, it needs to keep the viewer interested throughout the series.

Alas, it all comes down to personal taste i suppose, some will claim planetes is the GOAT, like Moot.

Kayden Harris
Kayden Harris

I explained in detail here: so either contribute something useful or pack your memes and shitposting and get
out/

Luis Jenkins
Luis Jenkins

needs something other than visuals and a good premise
I-It also had a great sound track.. ;_;

Jack Sanchez
Jack Sanchez

2015

Jaxon Gonzalez
Jaxon Gonzalez

Mayoiga, this season.

Adrian Cooper
Adrian Cooper

When K-On!! aired.

Thomas Barnes
Thomas Barnes

Expecting good story and characters from anime.

I've been watching anime years and have yet to find an anime with as good characters and story as even a middling novel. Even ones I really enjoy, like Mushishi and Kino no Tabi, are just alright. They tend to lack any subtlety and just bash you over the head with stereotypes constantly.

The only things anime ever does well is concepts, visuals, setting and mood. The feel of them can be great, the substance never is.

Ethan White
Ethan White

LOST the anime
I don't think so.

Ryder Rivera
Ryder Rivera

Last season.

Jace Robinson
Jace Robinson

Rakugo?

Kayden Turner
Kayden Turner

Konosuba?

Jack Gonzalez
Jack Gonzalez

Obviously, what else?

Ian Gomez
Ian Gomez

Who's favourite anime to the point that it was once traditional for either him or mods to ban people shitposting about it
leddit
No, user.

William Fisher
William Fisher

2014

Michael Taylor
Michael Taylor

2 Planetes threads at the same time, what's going on?

visuals - good, sunrise did well as expected

It looks like shit.

Moot

Anyways, I always thought the ebin "Retards in space!" post was just a joke. I was shocked at how right that guy was when I first watched Planetes.

The characters in NGE are pretty amazing.
But I agree, good characters are an exception.

Personally I really liked the MC of Planetes.
Having a huge goal but not working for it because you know you can't reach it.
Subconsciously searching for an excuse that you can't pursue it.
Having to choose either your career or your friends and family.

Luke Thompson
Luke Thompson

Hyouge Mono

Isaiah Reed
Isaiah Reed

It looks like shit
posts screenshot where it is show to look great

NGE had amazing characters.

Which ones? The generic angsty whiny protag, the quiet girl, the tsundere cunt, the slutty older lady, the "Cool guy", the evil master mind or his lacky?

Parker Martinez
Parker Martinez

Hyouge Mono
In the Sengoku period, when the shadow of Oda Nobunaga was still cast over the land, the warlord Furuta Sasuke lost his soul to the tea ceremony. While war shook the world around him, he faced his own conflict between his desire for promotion and his love for his art.

That sounds like the most hipster bullshit I've ever heard.

OH SO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAASIAN

Austin Richardson
Austin Richardson

user the majority of the show looks like this and you know it.

The generic angsty whiny protag, the quiet girl, the tsundere cunt, the slutty older lady, the "Cool guy", the evil master mind or his lacky?

Yes, those.

Christian Nelson
Christian Nelson

go rewatch bebop burgerclap

Xavier Ross
Xavier Ross

Should I watch the name if I really loved the manga

I hear it's pretty different with even completely new characters in some places

Brandon Phillips
Brandon Phillips

the overall anime plot and thematic arcs are more coherent even if different.

the only thing I could never really get into was the addition of the nip office culture thing.

also, not enough of based rocket nazi.

Ryan Miller
Ryan Miller

2013

Eli Bennett
Eli Bennett

1989

Luke Hill
Luke Hill

Planetes was the anime that affected my life the most, it completely changed my views toward life and my future, it was also a big part in the choice of my degree.
Was it a masterpiece? Probably
Did it manage to relay a message and some kind of feeling to the audience? Absolutely

Charles Mitchell
Charles Mitchell

This is bait, right? RIGHT?

Luis Thompson
Luis Thompson

story wise was a clusterfuck, but animation and OST still gaves me a raging boner to this day

Brayden Williams
Brayden Williams

Suffers adaptation decay, filler (Moon Narutards) and an anime original final arc that left me raging.

Jason Davis
Jason Davis

2014 had Tamako Love Story, Ping Pong, Space Dandy and Shirobako all of which I'd consider masterpieces.

Liam Hughes
Liam Hughes

japanese animation using japanese history as a setting
hipster bullshit
Dear Lord.

Jayden Cox
Jayden Cox

@141124969
Fuck off.

Lincoln Bailey
Lincoln Bailey

January 2010.

Nolan King
Nolan King

how do I Sup Forums

Daniel Fisher
Daniel Fisher

I did that on purpose.

Isaac Taylor
Isaac Taylor

hurrdurr

Aiden Baker
Aiden Baker

I was only pretending to be retarded
For what purpose?

Gavin Cook
Gavin Cook

Because that's all stale b8 deserves.

That, and a report.

Carter Hernandez
Carter Hernandez

merely pretending

Also
rec thread

Carter Ward
Carter Ward

Dissappearance of Haruhi.

Lincoln Wilson
Lincoln Wilson

I was intentionaly retarded

Gabriel Wilson
Gabriel Wilson

Clearly, if they put Gunbuster as a one.

Brandon Adams
Brandon Adams

2015
Watching all the now grown up kids in Fafner Exodus picking a career path, pursuing their dreams to be an idol, getting married and paying the price for happiness was quite something.

Kayden Carter
Kayden Carter

This pretty much sums up my entire view on Planetes. Great idea, great visuals, cruddy everything else. Should have focused more on the sci-fi and less on the shit characters that felt like they were copy pasted from some other generic show. I ended up dropping it because a good concept and good visuals can only carry a show so far.

It's especially sad because I was so god damned excited to have some good sci-fi in anim.

Leo Hernandez
Leo Hernandez

If we take masterpiece as critically acclaimed and the greatest work of that artist then it's probably Shirobako. Kaguya-hime maybe, but that's more disputed.

Jason Ward
Jason Ward

If we're not counting Mayoiga, I can agree on Shirobako.

Nicholas Hernandez
Nicholas Hernandez

This

Nathan Gutierrez
Nathan Gutierrez

I think it's better than the manga.
The music was really on point. and beautiful animations.

Joseph Sanders
Joseph Sanders

OP here.
I meant your own subjective opinion on it. What you consider a masterpiece.

As I wrote:
When was the last time a masterpiece was created, in your opinion?
in your opinion
For me it was probably Planetes, so 2003-4.
For me

Carson Wood
Carson Wood

Oh, then like last year with Eupho / Anthem / Hokusai / LWA.

Easton Rodriguez
Easton Rodriguez

Would the new Yamato count? It was just a remake of the old one, but it was the closest thing to a masterpiece I've seen recently.

Colton Young
Colton Young

Last year.

Aaron Wright
Aaron Wright

My fellow /a/esthete.

Dylan Cooper
Dylan Cooper

Shirobako started in 2014, that's two years ago.

Nicholas Bell
Nicholas Bell

Still haven't found anything i liked as much as tatami galaxy

Ryan Edwards
Ryan Edwards

Ping Pong?

Thomas Moore
Thomas Moore

But he was a well-known casual who saw <50 anime in his life.

Eli Lopez
Eli Lopez

Jesus Christ.

Easton Nguyen
Easton Nguyen

Good thing we're talking about my opinions and not yours, eh?

Cooper Cruz
Cooper Cruz

I love that one too, but Tatami is still my favorite

Thomas Russell
Thomas Russell

Ergo Proxy tbqh

Nicholas Sanchez
Nicholas Sanchez

Tell me about it. I'd probably kill myself if those were my opinions.

Lincoln Hill
Lincoln Hill

The last masterpiece was Ping Pong. There've been a few near-masterpieces since then but no 10/10 shows IMO.

Nolan Clark
Nolan Clark

ITT: pretentious shit.

Hudson Kelly
Hudson Kelly

So what's the most recent thing you'd call a masterpiece?

Julian Robinson
Julian Robinson

Every kyoani series is a masterpiece.

Hudson Long
Hudson Long

there are still people who haven't seen this image

Weird.

The story wasn't a clusterfuck.

Justin Martin
Justin Martin

I'd probably side with

Landon Rodriguez
Landon Rodriguez

What is Phantom Sales, Alex?

Isaac Nguyen
Isaac Nguyen

Code Geass. No series kept me laughing and at the edge of my seat between episodes as much as CG. Sup Forums had 24/7 active thread before, during and after both seasons. Not many anime had that going for them.

Chase Parker
Chase Parker

Cause sales = quality right?

Jose Edwards
Jose Edwards

I've never been /m/ enough to enjoy that series but I've heard good things. Maybe one day I'll check it out.

Anthony Collins
Anthony Collins

Fuck that pretentious piece of garbage.

Wyatt Evans
Wyatt Evans

It was pretty bad though.

Evan Scott
Evan Scott

Anyone who uses the term pretentious should be culled from society at once.

Landon Watson
Landon Watson

Are you telling me Limit Cycle isn't pretentious?

Logan Garcia
Logan Garcia

trying to invalidate words that describe your favorite anime
Tatami Galaxay fan spotted.

Leo Brown
Leo Brown

user all you gotta do is not be pretentious.

Dominic Jones
Dominic Jones

Oh look a tripfag with a shit opinion.

Colton Cruz
Colton Cruz

A little advice, you may think you are totally anonymous online, but there's always someone who can find you, and it could effect you in real life. In no way is that a threat or anything but, not thinking before posting stuff online can hurt you in real life. I've been online since I dialed into bbs. I've watched it grown and flex and change. I've seen bad things happen to good people because they thought they where safe. So I guess what I'm saying is, don't believe just because you think you have anonymity online that there can be no repercussions in real life.

Because there can.

Nathan Bell
Nathan Bell

I don't think a masterpiece doesn't have to be "perfect" to be considered one.
A 10/10 anime doesn't have to be masterpiece when a 8/10 can.
For me a msterpiece has to be 3 things:
Timeless
Revolutionnary
Unique (have it's own iidentity)

So like it or not, even DB can be considered a masterpiece in some way.

Asher Roberts
Asher Roberts

*identity

Jason Wright
Jason Wright

Don't be annoying, answer the OP question.

Easton Cooper
Easton Cooper

Unless you're a mod you cannot see someone's IP and even then you're only getting a geographical location without anything concrete.

By the way are you admitting to or pretending to be a mod or have modlike powers? Please go on tripfag.

Henry Allen
Henry Allen

Let me guess, you graduated top of your class in the navy seals and my IP is being traced right now
Tell me more tripfriend

Jaxson Barnes
Jaxson Barnes

K.

Lucas Collins
Lucas Collins

Quality post.

Nolan Allen
Nolan Allen

Added to my repertoire, thanks.

Aiden Green
Aiden Green

I've been watching anime years and have yet to find an anime with as good characters and story as even a middling novel.

How many novels have you read, user?
Whenever I read people making generalizations about how other media are better than anime at something, I can't help but wonder if they aren't just over-exposed to anime.

Isaac Diaz
Isaac Diaz

Will CopyPasta/10

Robert Allen
Robert Allen

shin sekai yori

Nicholas Johnson
Nicholas Johnson

having taste THIS shit

Connor Rogers
Connor Rogers

So, this is a thinly veiled rec thread, right?

Ryder Bennett
Ryder Bennett

Probably Mawaru Penguindrum or Dennou Coil.

Isaiah Morales
Isaiah Morales

Seriously? Not Ping-Pong? Get the fuck out.

Tyler Kelly
Tyler Kelly

The adaption is substantially different. Tanabe is a main character and our usual point of view, most of the navel gazing has been replaced with social commentary on issues that the original just touched on and the setting itself got a major upgrade to its sci-fi hardness.

Ethan Mitchell
Ethan Mitchell

It was great fun and all, but it didn't move me the same way Planetes did.

Austin Fisher
Austin Fisher

I found it very interesting that the frame-rate went up each time they were in zero-g, since it requires more fluid animation.

Robert Thompson
Robert Thompson

underrated

Dominic Walker
Dominic Walker

Actually not. Didn't really consider that people might it see it that way, but I can understand why you'd think that. Huh.
I was genuinely just interested in what people thought of as masterpieces.

Dominic Anderson
Dominic Anderson

Bonus points for the harder to animate realistic clothing rather than skin-tight suits.

Ethan Martinez
Ethan Martinez

Small bands of terrorists are a problem in this day and age, in case you've missed the headlines.

Jackson Collins
Jackson Collins

/a/ had 24/7 active thread before, during and after both seasons. Not many anime had that going for them.

I miss those days where the only shows that had that kind of raging, constant posting were shows that really deserved it. Now even shit like GuP and Haifuri have threads up at all hours.

Jace Morales
Jace Morales

mediocre. starts out too slow and addresses unimportant stuff.
There couldn't be a more subjective criticism if you were writing an opinion column on a newspaper.

Plot holes as to how a small band of 3rd world terrorists manages to infiltrate high security space stations.
Not an actual plot hole, given that no security is foolproof. They also had inside help, which the show made completely clear.

Main antagonist and supporting characters get away pretty much unpunished for the crimes they commited in the end for unexplainable reasons.
Yet another completely subjective assessment. One of them escaped, which isn't unrealistic, but the other was caught and reformed. It sounds more like you wanted some sort of absurd laser-focused karmic punishment that doesn't even happen in the real world.

Good main characters are even happy about that.
Reforming someone who was/s your friend counts as a good thing, you know.

Also deus ex machinas saving the main characters from the bs they cause.
Not really a DEM but I guess people will call anything that, as long as they dislike it.

So you didn't really come up with a good criticism of Planetes beyond just venting your personal dislike.

Oliver Garcia
Oliver Garcia

I can't possibly understand how you could drop the show by ten episode, which is when some of the best material in Planetes comes up.

Oliver Brown
Oliver Brown

Calls Planetes generic
There's very few anime like it
Okay, this is some shit taste.

Grayson Collins
Grayson Collins

Space scenes are more important than the regular stuff, which was still average by current standards.

Daniel Price
Daniel Price

I don't consider it "adaptation decay" but another interpretation. It's still a good show an

Also, the space ninja thing was played off as a joke for one episode. Not much in the way of filler.

I'll fight you about the final arc though. It was based on some of the manga content and the ending was pretty similar. Not identical, but similar.

Isaac Davis
Isaac Davis

The CONCEPT was unique, as was the setting, for an anime. The characters and execution was generic and/or poorly done, as stated well. Try actually utilizing your critical thinking skills even when somebody criticizes a show you like.

Samuel Moore
Samuel Moore

So you really didnt come up with any redeeming values of Planetes beyond just venting your personal appraisal.

Jack Evans
Jack Evans

That's not exactly much in terms of real criticism. It's simply stating a dislike for something. Which is fine, but don't need to link back to your own post, I've already read it. Calling the execution "generic" is also vague nonsense that doesn't apply. Where are all those other anime shows which have done the same thing?

Nicholas Rivera
Nicholas Rivera

2010. Saraiya Goyou.

Adam Reyes
Adam Reyes

That's not exactly much in terms of real criticism. It's simply stating a dislike for something.
in a discussion about opinions on a show

That's not my own post, it's some other /a/non who I mostly agree with. No need for me to rewrite my personal criticisms when somebody else wrote them for me in a more concise manner than I would have bothered with.

Calling the execution "generic" is also vague nonsense that doesn't apply.

Translation: Any criticisms you level against this show will be dismissed. Thanks for saving me the time of responding further.

Samuel Taylor
Samuel Taylor

2016

Jonathan Foster
Jonathan Foster

Can we all get back to OP'S question who gives a shit about Planetes.

Jace Lee
Jace Lee

I was simply responding to your own personal venting against Planetes here and pointing out how weak each statement was, not trying to make a full case in favor of the show.

James Long
James Long

No need for me to rewrite my personal criticisms when somebody else wrote them for me in a more concise manner than I would have bothered with.

Concise yet surprisingly uninformative and non-specific, you mean, other than stuff like silly complaints about the security which were already addressed by the show itself.

Translation: Anything that I don't like or find to be boring will be known as "generic" and you can't ask me to explain why that is.

James Hernandez
James Hernandez

You're incredibly assblasted over a handful of people not caring for Planetes.

Sebastian Clark
Sebastian Clark

There was a time when people tried and wanted to make something worth their time. It has more or less passed.

Sebastian Sullivan
Sebastian Sullivan

user, please. /m/ fucking exists because of SEED and Destiny.

Jason Parker
Jason Parker

What happened to this thread?

Nicholas Nguyen
Nicholas Nguyen

What do you mean? It was complete bananas from the get go.

Evan Kelly
Evan Kelly

Enough people, clearly.

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