Spring 2016's Most Popular Anime

Isaac Miller
Isaac Miller

Japanese Fans on Charapedia Name The Spring 2016 Anime That They're Still Actively Watching

Aggregate
20. Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn RE: 0096 - 103 votes
19. Super Lovers - 111 votes
18. The Asterisk War Season 2 - 140 votes
16. (tie) Bakuon!! - 165 votes
16. (tie) Anne Happy - 165 votes
15. Kiznaiver - 177 votes
14. Lost Village - 214 votes
13. Macross Delta - 228 votes
12. Joker Game - 267 votes
11. My Hero Academia - 269 votes
10. Flying Witch - 283 votes
9. Tanaka-kun is Always Listless - 311 votes
8. High School Fleet - 393 votes
7. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure - 404 votes
6. Kumamiko - 431 votes
5. And you thought there is never a girl online? - 442 votes
4. Bungo Stray Dogs - 483 votes
3. Haven't You Heard? I'm Sakamoto - 552 votes
2. Re:Zero -Starting Life in Another World - 564 votes
1. Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress - 572 votes

Male voters
10. Bakuon!! - 155 votes
9. My Hero Academia - 179 votes
8. Haven't You Heard? I'm Sakamoto - 240 votes
7. Flying Witch - 253 votes
6. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure - 271 votes
5. High School Fleet - 352 votes
4. Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress - 356 votes
3. Kumamiko - 360 votes
2. And you thought there is never a girl online? - 368 votes
1. Re:Zero -Starting Life in Another World - 461 votes

Female voters
10. My Hero Academia - 90 votes
9. Super Lovers - 96 votes
8. Re:Zero -Starting Life in Another World - 103 votes
7. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure - 133 votes
6. Kiznaiver - 136 votes
5. Joker Game - 185 votes
4. Tanaka-kun is Always Listless - 186 votes
3. Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress - 216 votes
2. Haven't You Heard? I'm Sakamoto - 312 votes
1. Bungo Stray Dogs - 414 votes

Discuss.

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Julian Stewart
Julian Stewart

Forgot link:
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Charles Hall
Charles Hall

Who fucking does a ranking that puts the lowest place on top?

Holy shit please.

Nathaniel Johnson
Nathaniel Johnson

13. Macross Delta - 228 votes
Please for the love of god let this fail. I want old Macross not the 90% idol worship bullshit this has turned into.

Noah Watson
Noah Watson

Good to know the country that makes anime has shit taste in it

Henry Smith
Henry Smith

That picture is lewd as fuck

Mason Richardson
Mason Richardson

The one you are the top most of

Ethan Scott
Ethan Scott

the Attack on Titan clone ends up the most popular show of the season
mfw it becomes more popular than SnK

Cameron Cook
Cameron Cook

How is Mumei so literal perfection?

Jose Nguyen
Jose Nguyen

Fuck, I would ravage that 12 year old ass.

Christopher Jenkins
Christopher Jenkins

And you thought there is never a girl online?

Its so popular amongst guys that it makes it 5th place in over all.

Chase Ortiz
Chase Ortiz

1. Bungo Stray Dogs - 414 votes
color me surprised
fucking fujoshit ruining the industry

Nathaniel Mitchell
Nathaniel Mitchell

This time it's balanced. Usually the female nips have better taste, but Kuma and Witch only show up on the male top 10 so they aren't all that bad. And the first place on the fem one sucks cocks.

Sebastian Harris
Sebastian Harris

1. Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress - 572 votes
Ok that makes sense.

2. Re:Zero -Starting Life in Another World - 564 votes
Japan with their escapism. Not surprising in the least. Still it's pretty shit taste.

3. Haven't You Heard? I'm Sakamoto - 552 votes
About where it belong.

4. Bungo Stray Dogs - 483 votes
Fujos strong.

5. And you thought there is never a girl online? - 442 votes
Otaku strong.

6. Kumamiko - 431 votes
Older otaku strong.

7. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure - 404 votes
Even older otaku strong.

8. High School Fleet - 393 votes
Entry level otaku strong.

9. Tanaka-kun is Always Listless - 311 votes
Who the fuck watches this shit.

10. Flying Witch - 283 votes
Too low.

11. My Hero Academia - 269 votes
Too high.

Nicholas Butler
Nicholas Butler

you'd probably be the one to be ravaged, though

Caleb Clark
Caleb Clark

I WANT TO SQUEEZE MY PENIS BETWEEN MUMEI'S BUTTCHEEKS

Julian Jenkins
Julian Jenkins

>>9. Tanaka-kun is Always Listless - 311 votes
Who the fuck watches this shit.
Fujoshits?
>>10. Flying Witch - 283 votes
Too low.
Indeed, Frying Witch should be higher.

Jonathan Flores
Jonathan Flores

never underestimate the fujo's

Joshua Collins
Joshua Collins

That's not 12 years old.
inb4 but muh numbers

Justin Lewis
Justin Lewis

i want Plus and nothing else in the franchise
Stop posting

Ayden Flores
Ayden Flores

I thought My Hero would be a hit

Julian Wright
Julian Wright

Re:Zero
escapism

Huh?

Andrew Gray
Andrew Gray

Good image

Gavin Reyes
Gavin Reyes

2. Re:Zero -Starting Life in Another World - 564 votes

Now this is a suprise, I didn't a majority of nips drop the series because of how anti-self insert and anti-wish fufilling the series is?

Aiden Rivera
Aiden Rivera

No

Josiah Allen
Josiah Allen

Are you retarded? Just because there's some suffering doesn't mean the show isn't wish fulfillment.

Isaac Scott
Isaac Scott

Around vol 4 they did, but most of those nips that did thought it was another battle harem and got fucked right in the ass. A new fanbase has now formed around it that are mostly consisting of Beserk, Evangelion and Helck fans.

Jason Hill
Jason Hill

4. Bungo Stray Dogs - 483 votes
Sup Forums once again BTFO. Is fujoshit, dare I say it, back?

Easton Gray
Easton Gray

You see this girl? That's his wife. She dies. Her sister is getting fucked by a clown and Emilia left him.

Wish fulfilling? Please.

Brody Martin
Brody Martin

So the only thing worse than battle harem fags.

Julian Miller
Julian Miller

Just ignore the Robotech fags, they're sadly retarded.

Ethan James
Ethan James

In what way?

Levi Parker
Levi Parker

The main character is still a self insert and the set up is still wish fulfillment even if shitty things happen later. Some people like the idea of being a tragic hero.

Bentley Richardson
Bentley Richardson

Plus has idols too, retard.

Mason Brooks
Mason Brooks

that last part

Oh fuck. I feel so fucking sorry for this guy.

James Phillips
James Phillips

How is Stray Dogs so popular? It's horribly paced and has cringey obnoxious humor. It's so generic. Nothing about it stands out as worthwhile.

Elijah Torres
Elijah Torres

I don't think alot of people would self insert as a guy who carries his comatose girlfreind everywhere with him, just saying.

Brayden Morales
Brayden Morales

Is he doing that yet? I noted the set up specifically for a reason.

Logan Jenkins
Logan Jenkins

Fujos. And well, maybe its because its not as shit as people thought it would be.

Mason Jackson
Mason Jackson

user any story where the protagonist has something interesting happen to them can be taken as wish fulfillment

It's largely a pointless descriptor

Levi Thomas
Levi Thomas

best show of the season on none of the lists
Okay.

Bentley Peterson
Bentley Peterson

haifuri not first

WTF

Jack Roberts
Jack Roberts

Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress at the top.
No wonder most anime is garbage, these people are fucking retarded.

Charles Evans
Charles Evans

Cute gay boys.

Gabriel Mitchell
Gabriel Mitchell

Nah. I don't want to have the degree of crippling depression like MC has.

The set up isn't as pleasant as you think it was. People hated Rem aand alot more people dislike Emilia.

John Bell
John Bell

Set up? You mean this set-up?

Jaxson Watson
Jaxson Watson

Yeah why is a show with cute and gute good looking guys popular? I'm sure you know the answer.

WTF
Kill yourself, newshit.

Jackson White
Jackson White

You kill yourself fujoshit

Noah Price
Noah Price

That's not completely true. Clearly the later events of the story aren't wish fulfillment while I'd argue the earlier events are.

He's self-insert because he's generic and clearly designed for the express and sole purpose of the viewer relating to him. And I don't understand what you're saying as far as the set up being unpleasant.

Yeah, dying is painful, but the guy still gets to be the big hero when it's all said and done.

Gabriel Allen
Gabriel Allen

1. Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress - 572 votes
No surprises here, this season is pretty good but Kabaneri is on another level.

Henry Gonzalez
Henry Gonzalez

Flying Witch is too low and I'm a /v/ermin. One of the better SoLs out there.

Jackson Jackson
Jackson Jackson

I know lolis are not popular, but I think a bit younger setting (middle school instead of high school for example) would have had more opening for popularity this time with the running titles all being high school.

Bentley Cox
Bentley Cox

hated Rem

Considering she inflicted the most pain on MC including torture and dismemberment I'd honestly think that they should, but I'm only a mangafag so I don't know.

Xavier Williams
Xavier Williams

Both are shit.

Jack Bennett
Jack Bennett

You mean the most casual pandering level for teenagers.
Yeah, obviously.

Chase Nelson
Chase Nelson

Because it's dumb and looks bad.

Elijah Sullivan
Elijah Sullivan

But he doesn't. He never becomes a hero. At all for that matter, instead he gets shit thrown at him from every direction for trying to help people.

Bentley Brown
Bentley Brown

No you're dumb and look bad.

Oliver Robinson
Oliver Robinson

I don't think you know what a fujo is. Lurk more, newfag.

I know lolis are not popular
I don't even know what to say.

Logan Reed
Logan Reed

Sakamoto doing that well

OVA WHEN

Cameron Roberts
Cameron Roberts

He never becomes a hero.
Are you joking? He saves everyone in the fourth episode, and everyone starts giving him favors and shit for his valiant actions. If that's not being a hero, I don't know what is.

Thomas Jones
Thomas Jones

Earlier events are wish fulfillment

Maybe the premise, but it takes all of one episode for him to learn that the world he was transported to fucking sucks

Noah Hernandez
Noah Hernandez

I don't even know what to say.
I'll help you. Repeat "you are right, user."
Unless I'm suddenly in another dimension where loli shows are popular, numerous and sell well.

Jason Hall
Jason Hall

Personally, I beleive she repaid him back with interest in the later arcs but I can see why people still hate Rem.

Camden Davis
Camden Davis

Why does Sup Forums has this hard-on for any shit anime that has little girls?

Is it because you can feel more like a hipster since no sane person like that shit?

Evan Rivera
Evan Rivera

Because Sup Forums is not /v/ like you and we actually like good shows.

Adam Green
Adam Green

everyone starts giving him favors and shit for his valiant actions.

Except all of it was a two-faced lie.

Cooper Powell
Cooper Powell

/a/

He is pretty obviously not from Sup Forums, just like you.

Aiden Watson
Aiden Watson

His actions are pretty thankless considering he's not allowed to tell anyone about the looping or all the shit he's done to make certain things possible.
I can only imagine a pretty fucked up masochist wanting to self insert as Subaru. He's a character you sympathize for and want to succeed but you'd never want to be him.

Evan Thompson
Evan Thompson

Haifuri doesn't have little girls in it, just your regular anime teen girls.

Landon Perez
Landon Perez

I would also enjoy being betrayed by the people I trust the most as well user.

Ayden Cruz
Ayden Cruz

WTF
Hang yourself

John Rivera
John Rivera

Cause the modern anime audience has hilariously terrible and shallow taste. Literally everything comes down to characer design and somewhat pretense of the premise. Just about nothing else remotely matters

Justin Smith
Justin Smith

Yup but really it's not like there are a whole lot of better choices. Most of the stuff getting made now is pandering dogshit of varying budgets and art design appeal

Hudson Baker
Hudson Baker

She only came back after he "redeemed" himself.

Fucking slut.

Nathaniel Reed
Nathaniel Reed

Probably part of the reason

You folks just keep telling yourself that there's a difference

Grayson Green
Grayson Green

He's here!

Jordan Rivera
Jordan Rivera

Isn't that what Rem does? Except Emilia doesn't murder him first.

Ian Collins
Ian Collins

If that's the case why is it separated from the next dumb as fuck show by less than 20 votes. What's funny is this was all predetermined before the season started when people were all over the seasonal popular people action clusterfuck and seasonal reincarnation story. Do we have a seasonal trapped in an MMO BTW?

Samuel Brooks
Samuel Brooks

Alright, cool, there's a twist. Doesn't change the fact that he saved everyone and still gets to play the hero, at least for a time. And moreover, he did still save all of those people's lives, even if he doesn't get praise for it.

"Fucking sucks" is an overstatement, seeing as it's still a fantasy world that he gets to be an incredibly important part of due to his power.

Again, he's still boring and generic and only exists for the viewer to project on. Just because shitty things happen to him doesn't mean this isn't true.

Julian Hall
Julian Hall

saying that while there is a naruto thread up

Biggest joke. Sup Forums is already dead.

/a/thread/141116264#p141116264

Joseph Nguyen
Joseph Nguyen

Yeah, this season blows.

Eli Lewis
Eli Lewis

Just like anime has been for a while. Sup Forums seems to exist now solely to try to tell people how it's better than /v/

Easton Myers
Easton Myers

Nope, Rem stays with him for the entire series premeditated murder or otherwise. Emilia left Subaru after losing a duel which embarassed her socially.

Joshua Gray
Joshua Gray

Every time when Re:zero comes up thread is instantly derailed.

Ethan Green
Ethan Green

15. Kiznaiver - 177 votes
Trigger saving anime, my ass.

Tyler Morris
Tyler Morris

All seasons have blown for like a couple years. I love how people still try to fight over it like a crazy old man defending a pile of garbage with some porn mags stashed within

Luis Jenkins
Luis Jenkins

Its not a power, its a curse. A real fucked up one at that.

Cameron Russell
Cameron Russell

Emilia left Subaru after losing a duel which embarassed her socially.
What a fucking whore.

Trigger is ass. That stuidio should go under.

Ryan Morales
Ryan Morales

Don't you get it the only reason to watch anything that has heterosexual boys in it is for escapism

Benjamin Lewis
Benjamin Lewis

Prodject? Prodject what exactly? I can only see some real masochists trying to prodject with the MC. Its like saying that we prodject with Guts for being raped by thee flying magical negro of the book

Owen Diaz
Owen Diaz

I have to say, Sakamoto is a lot better than I expected. Given it's DEEN I expected to be completely unwatchable but it's surprisingly decent, the music and voices are spot on.

Daniel Nguyen
Daniel Nguyen

nips not being in on the trainwreck of the season
Figures the japs can't even enjoy their own media right.

Joshua Phillips
Joshua Phillips

incredibly important part of
Not really. If he would just ran away nothing would change.
Rem spinoff

Landon Russell
Landon Russell

More like homosexual, everyhtign is a complete sausagefest after arc 2 and stays that way.

Jeremiah Anderson
Jeremiah Anderson

I dunno, getting to redo shit after fucking up doesn't seem so bad to me. Things would have to get pretty bad for me to just wish for death,

Project themselves, dumbass. Please learn simple concepts. Also learn how to spell.

Yes, he's not intrinsically important, but he gets to be important.

Connor Price
Connor Price

Women just can't understand comfortable anime like Flying Witch.

Lucas James
Lucas James

Proof that Nippon=/a/ =MAL= Shit taste.

Thomas Young
Thomas Young

literally the most comfiest anime since aria o sketchbook

Cameron Adams
Cameron Adams

Alright, now this is clearly a bait.

Jack Edwards
Jack Edwards

Staying dead is better than dying by getting ripped to pieces all the time.

Noah Bennett
Noah Bennett

It's because one faggot can't accept that others like it and the faggots that like it can't accept that the only thing Re:zero has to offer is suffering
It's a never ending cycle every time there's a re:zero thread

Connor Stewart
Connor Stewart

HE DISAGREES WITH ME IT MUST BE BAIT
Fuck off.

No, I would much rather be alive after being ripped to pieces than be dead. Assuming of course that I'm not permanently stuck in a loop of dying, which I assume I'm not.

Cameron Moore
Cameron Moore

redo shit after fucking up doesn't seem so bad to me

Except the game saves everytime he fucks up. Not to mention how soul crushing it is to experience the people you have spent time and effort with just completely forget about those experinces.

Liam Campbell
Liam Campbell

pssstt user you should not tickle stupid man, stupid man go trolling if you do.

Grayson Perez
Grayson Perez

Project themselves
Why the fuck would you want that?
Projecting on him is like projecting on Romeo.

Lucas Scott
Lucas Scott

muh superior taste deemed your taste is shit.

yea faggot, go back crying to mama booo hoo

Jose Smith
Jose Smith

He is calling your post bait because you pretty much completely ignore all of his points. Also, there is only suffering for him. Staying dead would be better. Its not even his own power.

Landon Smith
Landon Smith

which I assume I'm not.

Julian Wright
Julian Wright

which I assume I'm not.

Oh boy

See, this is where you are wrong.

Blake Campbell
Blake Campbell

glad majority of nips dont have shit taste like you user..

Luke Richardson
Luke Richardson

It's because one faggot can't accept that others like it
Funny thing is - I posted the original post that started the whole flamewar and I've not posted even once since.

So maybe it's one assburger that cannot accept no one like his edgy niwaka anime? Because I don't like Re:Zero as well.
I mean come the fuck on how many escapism I get hit by a truck and get teleported to a fantasy world shit stories does Japan need?

but this one has suffering

So does shield hero. So does half of these formulaic reincarnation LNs. They're written by 20 year old fat edgy chuuni virgins.

Brody Sanders
Brody Sanders

Probably becuase it has the most zealous fanbase as well as the most zealous haters. Its like watching two rabid dogs fight.

James Collins
James Collins

13. Macross Delta - 228 votes
1. Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress - 572 votes

It just proves again that nips has such an insufferable shit taste

Landon Sanchez
Landon Sanchez

Its probably because all the newfags who liked SAO,NGNL, and shit like that post in those threads.

Luis Bailey
Luis Bailey

Re:Zero is another anime that try to disguise itself as something it is not, still wishfulfillment for otaku. Similar to Oregairu and the "it's not a harem, it's something different" turned it weren't different from the normal light novels.

Justin Gray
Justin Gray

Assuming of course that I'm not permanently stuck in a loop of dying, which I assume I'm not.

Jaxon Phillips
Jaxon Phillips

Nips like the series with the sexualised 12 year old
Sasuga

Jack Parker
Jack Parker

escapism

Oh boy, there goes that word again.

Eli Clark
Eli Clark

Similar to Oregairu
This nigga

Nolan Scott
Nolan Scott

I can accept that people like it, they're just defending it poorly.

Yeah, that's a little shitty. Still better than dead.

You don't necessarily project yourself onto a character consciously. In fact you usually don't. it just means the character is generic enough that you could easily substitute the characters missing traits for your own.

Alright, fair enough. I guess shit happens later that I haven't seen/read. Just be prepared to retract your statements if he manages to fix everything or most things by the end.

Bentley Walker
Bentley Walker

By the end of this season you are going to experince a bad end. If whitefox adapts arc 3 of the series by episode 25.

Christian Gonzalez
Christian Gonzalez

my life will be more interesting if I die and go to a fantasy world where I can be a hero

Yes. It's escapism.
a normal schmuck becomes important because deus ex machina
That's more than enough to be escapism. It doesn't need anything more.

Austin Wilson
Austin Wilson

Kiznaiver's votes being almost all female
It's interesting to see shows that you expect to be fujoshit or otaku pandering actually play out that way in the demographics. I've noticed that one of the ways Western anime fans differ from those in Japan is the fact that shoujo and the like actually have a significantly larger male following than among the Japanese (and the same with women actually watching ecchi and fanservice aimed at men). I don't know if this is because gender interests are less separated in the West than in Japan or if Western anime fans just see all anime as the same monolithic entity and watch it regardless of the intended audience.

Jacob Scott
Jacob Scott

I think it's more soul crushing to realize the people you spent time and effort with were faking their feelings toward you the entire time.

Liam Wilson
Liam Wilson

trying so hard user.. trying so hard, whats wrong? did you fail in life so hard? the only source of your happiness is trying hard in Sup Forums ?

trying to proof your shit by repeating "escapism" word.

lel chuuni virgins..

too bad you failed at life user, better try next life?

Easton Martin
Easton Martin

I'm not going to finish the show, but okay.

William Long
William Long

He never becomes a hero.

He isn't even the MC to his own series, Reinhardt is.

How many times do we have to drill this in your head?

Alexander Johnson
Alexander Johnson

Kabaneri
never heard of it...

*searches wikipedia*
wow, it's almost like someone took the summary of SnK and changed the theme to steampunk.

the story sounds exactly the same

Ayden Green
Ayden Green

dying all the time and losing everything thats important to you while being a talentless loser is being important and a hero

Boy am I jealous of that guy.

Levi Thompson
Levi Thompson

This as well

James Cook
James Cook

I'm surprised Jojo is that low, and netoge's that high but Japan has pretty great taste I gotta say.

guys not voting for Joker Game
What the fuck

You might genuinely be retarded.

Cameron Smith
Cameron Smith

*action*
Back to >>>/MAL/

Noah Adams
Noah Adams

Fuck off with your shitposting, they have nothing to do with each other

Lincoln Butler
Lincoln Butler

filename
I feel sorry for him. He just wanted to buy some stuff at the convenience store and go back to his neet life.

tripfag
You are certainly genuinely retarded.

Liam Jackson
Liam Jackson

You are kinda thick, aren't you?

Nolan Thomas
Nolan Thomas

Compared to his life as a run of the mill Japanese?
I'm pretty sure half of them would chose that without a second of hesitation.

I honestly don't think you understand what I'm trying to tell you. It's escapism because
look he's like me and he's doing his best in that amazing fantasy world surrounded by all those cute Western looking girls. I could be a cool guy if I get hit by a truck too.

It is escapism. In a way it's even more sad than the typical type of escapism because a typical LN like that could inspire an otaku a bit. In this case, there's not even that, he's just a fucking piece of shit and remains like that. Still he's a part of the story.

So it makes them think - ah, it's obviously the world I live in. In a fantasy world I'd be more interesting even if I remain a shit.

So much worse. The implication you'll get something for doing jackshit.

Josiah Hill
Josiah Hill

any doujins of her

Jonathan Taylor
Jonathan Taylor

living in the dark age is somehow better than being a neet in japan
Seriously, just kill yourself already.

Asher Allen
Asher Allen

He doesn't remain a shit the world around him gets progressively shittier. He actually puts some real effort into getting out of that hell hole only to be dragged back in.

No matter how hard he fights he is always getting constantly fucked in the ass.

Jonathan Wood
Jonathan Wood

I'll say this frankly. I'd rather fucking die and rot in the ground than go through what Subaru did.
You and I clearly have differing views on the matter.

Ethan Gonzalez
Ethan Gonzalez

He's slow because he doesn't read some random light novel
You can fuck off too.

Jace Clark
Jace Clark

I could be a cool guy if I get hit by a truck too
What?

Anthony Mitchell
Anthony Mitchell

I don't think there's one yet but you search her in pixiv,I can honestly say that the elevens did good for once

Thomas Ortiz
Thomas Ortiz

Aww did someone remind you that Macross isn't Idolmaster and it hurt your feelings?

Benjamin Edwards
Benjamin Edwards

link?

Easton Baker
Easton Baker

A formulaic cliche from this type of LN.
try to save school girls for a truck
you get hit by the truck instead
get teleported to Elf girls suck your dick land for shoving two teenage prostitutes to the ground

And before you ask, yes, there is an LN about a fat otaku shoving two enko kosai sluts to the ground. But if I remember it correctly the three of them got smashed by the truck anyway and went to the fantasy land together.

Don't remember what it was called though.

Gavin Ward
Gavin Ward

Well, no. Every book is escapism. Every story ever is escapism. This way of thinking is really retarded.

Robert Torres
Robert Torres

JoJo is low because it's not Stardust Crusaders this season.

Josiah Reyes
Josiah Reyes

You just embarrassing yourself. Stop.

Brandon Lee
Brandon Lee

I'm pretty sure half of them would chose that without a second of hesitation.

With how many nips dropped the series when volume for 4 due to how much shit Subaru has to go though, I'd say no.

I'd be more interesting even if I remain a shit.

He doesn't remain a shit though, he took time and (his) lives to work his way out of pit he is in. He worked through hell and high water only to get sucker punched in the gut for it.

Eli Brown
Eli Brown

Wait, that's not the image I meant to post. Shit.

Easton King
Easton King

Summer comiket is around the corner.

No. Not every book.
Fiction. And specifically fiction about a guy next door getting involved in something amazing. Especially if it involves cute girls. Doesn't matter if sex is involved.

Mason Howard
Mason Howard

What I'm actually following from that list: (no one cares anyway)

16. Bakuon!! - 165 votes
16. Anne Happy - 165 votes <- I call this one Unhappy.
13. Macross Delta - 228 votes
10. Flying Witch - 283 votes
8. Hai Furi - 393 votes
6. Kumamiko - 431 votes
5. Netoge - 442 votes
3. Sakamoto desu ga - 552 votes

Names corrected because some people in the industry suck ass in translating.

Caleb Scott
Caleb Scott

only to be dragged back in

More like he sees the pool is empty at the end of the diving board and he still decides to jump instead of climbing back down. All his problems can be solved by getting the fuck out.

there are thugs hanging out in an alley
Don't enter the alley next time
people are going to get murdered at a loot house
Stay out of there
half the people at this mansion want you dead
Maybe you should leave
there's a giant flying whale eating shit to the south
Go North

Joshua Thompson
Joshua Thompson

And specifically fiction about a guy next door getting involved in something amazing.
So, Lord Of The Rings is escapism then?

Caleb Cruz
Caleb Cruz

No, it isn't. This is describing a very specific circumstance in which a character is put into an exciting and interesting situation through absolutely no action of his own. There's not even a plot device explaining why he specifically needs to be important. It could have been you, me, or anyone else. That's why it's wish fulfillment.

Carson Stewart
Carson Stewart

Just google it,I said the site's name,do your part faggot

Thomas Martinez
Thomas Martinez

Is there a reason people like spoiling Re:Zero so much? I don't recall other adaptations being this bad.

Carson Howard
Carson Howard

Abandoning the people that make you feel less numb inside.

He likes to cling onto things that make him feel a hint of happy due to his depression. He became a NEET by choice not by circumstance.

That is also probably the reason why he saves Rem and stays with Emilia even though she is a shit.

Luis Barnes
Luis Barnes

*searches wikipedia*
Fuck off

Jack Rogers
Jack Rogers

Not. As blatantly obvious.
The Chronicles of Narnia are a much better example if you want a pleb fantasy book series from the same timeframe.

Cooper Wilson
Cooper Wilson

Because people need to talk about the extreme suffering later in the series to prove that this isn't another generic, shitty light novel adaptation.

Carson Anderson
Carson Anderson

no one cares anyway
You're right, but aside from that, is there a reason you aren't watching some of the others or are you just a contrarian faggot?

Grayson Moore
Grayson Moore

What happens then? Die of old age and respawn again?

You're telling me he should live in an endless loop of this?

Owen Nguyen
Owen Nguyen

Subaru is only numb inside because he keeps dying for these people. He acts as if his life is worth less than the chips he bought at the convenience store.

Ryder Miller
Ryder Miller

see guys this isn't bad. here let me spoil it for you.
Genius logic

Nicholas Gomez
Nicholas Gomez

We've had enough of secondaries

Luis Ward
Luis Ward

It'd be a lot better than looping every other day to the next gruesome death.

Josiah Edwards
Josiah Edwards

Charapedia
Why would people still care this site, i mean as you see other than Kabaneri, all other top 5 shows are going to flop, this prove the votes are meaningless.

Blake Nelson
Blake Nelson

Because he beleives it actually is. Even in the dialouges of arc 3 and further he tells us that he's throw his life away for the fuck of it due to how low costing his life is.

Aiden Bennett
Aiden Bennett

Yeah I know right. Why do they even make anime?

Blake Bailey
Blake Bailey

To be honest after reading the spoilers I'm considering of dropping it, looking at how MC's suffering never stops.

Yeah I'm weak.

Nathan Perry
Nathan Perry

wow, it's almost like someone took the summary of SnK and changed the theme to steampunk.

you forgot to note they made it not shit since SnK is bland shit on an endless march to oblivion.

Ian Evans
Ian Evans

Why are RE:Lifers constantly posting images of gore and death from the manga whenever someone calls it out for being self-insert trash? Trying to show us how "mature" by posting grimdark and violently bloody pages from the story is proving critics right. Can't you just embrace the truth about your show and just enjoy it already?

Are you that immature that you have to try and defend this shit all the time? You are just proving them right.

Or is this an elaborate troll?

Cameron Evans
Cameron Evans

other than Kabaneri
Kabaneri is going to flop as well.

Alexander Sanders
Alexander Sanders

neverending story too

Grayson Phillips
Grayson Phillips

Re:Zero
Glad to see my favorite show of the season doing well.

Nathaniel Murphy
Nathaniel Murphy

What about Rosewal then? Would he not hunt him down? What about Satella then? Would she not kill him? Plus it's pretty hard to see the people that showed kindness to you die gruesomely unless you're a pshyco/sociopath.

Brayden Ramirez
Brayden Ramirez

The implication you'll get something for doing jackshit.

Anthony Richardson
Anthony Richardson

I mean if the loops never end anyways might as well just try to live a fulfilling life, die, and then live another fulfilling life. Or just the same life over and over again.

Owen Perez
Owen Perez

Even i'm not fan of this show, it will still going to sell at least 7k+, while it's not a great number, but still not a flop.

Andrew Nguyen
Andrew Nguyen

To sell more copies of the source material. You act like this isn't the point of all adaptations these days. Nips can catch a late night run and go out to buy the first volume the next day.
Just because you're not their intended demographic doesn't make it any less true.

Gavin Lee
Gavin Lee

Fufilling life in what context? What are your parameters of a fufilling life?

Julian Kelly
Julian Kelly

Been away for 3 years, someone fill me in on the current state of Sup Forums

Cooper Morris
Cooper Morris

So stereotypical it hurts, this elevens.

James Johnson
James Johnson

The problem is that secondaries these days tend to be as bad as narutards.

Charles Lewis
Charles Lewis

The parameters are completely personal. At any rate, might as well seek some sort of passing comfort if you're trapped in a cycle of horrible death followed by respawning. He should at least have the common sense to go get horribly addicted to some sort of substance so he can at least die in a drug fueled haze.

Joshua Lee
Joshua Lee

You're not welcome here anymore. Probably weren't welcome to begin with.

Jacob Myers
Jacob Myers

There is a Naruto thread up right now and no one is doing anything about it.

Ryan Hughes
Ryan Hughes

I take it you didn't go to college user.

Christopher Thompson
Christopher Thompson

memes

Chase Martinez
Chase Martinez

Its like how beserk fans justify how "mature" and "different" the series is by showing griffin killing his own army and raping is best freinds wife. Or how "badass" or "willfully strong" Guts is after becomeing a great man despire being raped by a black guy.

Kayden Young
Kayden Young

Excuse me for starting a series and not wanting to read how the series will turn out. What a flaming faggot that makes me.

Jeremiah Peterson
Jeremiah Peterson

Not that user you're replying to, but I feel that's essentially part of its popularity. Normally, people SI into awesome characters as escapism to feel better about themselves. This is the opposite. People want him to suffer so they can feel pity for him and be glad they're not him. Conversely, there's also a minor bit of escapism as massive amount of suffering is a key part of many betrayal/revenge fanfics. They want to be able to SI him to be able to fix everything in his stead. Granted, this can horribly backfire if they take it too far in the suffering department as the readers feel there's no payoff in continue to reading it and simply stop.

Brody Sanders
Brody Sanders

the fuck is this?
I can agree with Re:Zero but, an obvious rip-off at 1st place?

What the fuck. at least place Jojo there

Nolan Edwards
Nolan Edwards

Generals still plague the board and there is a lot more Jojofags from /v/.

Hudson Butler
Hudson Butler

roswaal hunting down subaru

That sounds fun. Subaru's power of reset against the power of vague precognition. Try to outwit the guy that knows you know he knows you know.

Robert Jones
Robert Jones

But Jojo is there, at (pff) 7th.

Henry Wood
Henry Wood

AoT
not SnK
clearly didn't watch the anime or at least even seen the second episode onwards
fuck off back to /v/

Elijah Robinson
Elijah Robinson

WTF! Why the fuck? How is my shit not first?
Are all JoJo fags this much of a whiny bitches?

Jeremiah Collins
Jeremiah Collins

the guy that knows you know he knows you know.

Colton Jones
Colton Jones

He should at least have the common sense to go get horribly addicted to some sort of substance so he can at least die in a drug fueled haze.

Why would you do that? Why the fuck would you want to die in an endless cycle of overdose?

Kevin Wood
Kevin Wood

the guy that knows you know he knows you know.

Luke Edwards
Luke Edwards

AU chapter when?

Isaiah Williams
Isaiah Williams

b-b-b-b--bb--b-b-b-b-bb-b-b-bboth deal with an apocalyptic world where people use off-the-cuff fantasy technology to defeat humanoid monsters and protect the rest of mankind? surely there is only way to tell that story!!

Jose Butler
Jose Butler

knows you know he knows you know

Luis Thompson
Luis Thompson

Who the hell would self-insert in a guy that's constantly getting ripped apart?
That's like self-inserting as Kazuki and banging your head a googolplex times on a wall after killing yourself for hundred of years until your waifu appears. Is this what people call wish fulfillment? Might as well call anything with a protagonist and a girl wish fulfillment.

See /a/thread/141116264#p141116264
That's all you need to know.

Charles Jackson
Charles Jackson

guy that knows you know he knows you know.

Colton Diaz
Colton Diaz

I mean, if I'm going to die over and over again anyways, might as well get in my hedonistic pleasure before I do so.

Austin Sullivan
Austin Sullivan

endless cycle

Duh, once you die and reset you're no longer chemically addicted to the drug. Imagine being able to use heroine and have every trip be as good as the first because your opioid receptors are back to normal.

Levi Mitchell
Levi Mitchell

And where might he find these drugs exactly?

Ethan Kelly
Ethan Kelly

Oh shit let's kill the girl MC loves. That will make our show 10/10.

Just because the MC is UP this time around doesn't means he's good.

Chase White
Chase White

Because it's not Sup Forums, it's a bunch of loud crossboarders who hate anything that they consider "moeshit".
The only amusing bit of information from this list is how 414 out of the 483 votes Bungou Stray Dogs are women. It's kind of funny seeing fags in here complaining about their favorite show not being the most popular among a small portion of Japs but I hate the salesfag way of shitposting so I'm out.
Also I hate Kabaneri for how actually generic it is, but god damn Mumei is great.

Blake Hernandez
Blake Hernandez

Lurk moar in the thread please, we've had this arguement already.

Luke Thomas
Luke Thomas

How many ESLs are here? It's an odd sentence but it isn't that hard to understand.

Carter Watson
Carter Watson

people aren't even spamming nurutu threads anymore
We have fallen so low.

Grayson Kelly
Grayson Kelly

/v/
liking shows with little girls
Oh you

Blake Myers
Blake Myers

You seem to be in ESL or lack the comprehension to see what the greentext arrow implies. Please use your brain before you post.

Nathaniel Ramirez
Nathaniel Ramirez

Emilia left Subaru after losing a duel which embarassed her socially.
Are we ignoring how dumbly Subaru broke a promise and got into trouble alone?

But no, let's victimize the retard instead.

Ian Mitchell
Ian Mitchell

Eh, ask the street criminals. I'm sure they've got some sources.

Ryder Turner
Ryder Turner

that knows you know he knows you know.

Justin Rogers
Justin Rogers

Is it implying it's just a stupid sentence? Because I just jumped into this thread and am too tired to really think about it. don't be so testy user

Ryan Kelly
Ryan Kelly

Game saves
This is how serious the story takes itself: like if it were a fucking game.

Christopher Carter
Christopher Carter

Naruto, blogs and requests threads are a thing of everyday now

Aiden Thompson
Aiden Thompson

Ask those thugs in the dark alley, or the destitute people in Felt's part of town. They're likely to be users or know someone who abuses drugs and where to get a score. Shit I bet they have magic drugs too.

Robert Clark
Robert Clark

doesn't understand my broken statement
must be ESL
Maybe you should learn English first before thinking everyone else can't

Evan Smith
Evan Smith

the guy that knows you know he knows you know.

Connor Hughes
Connor Hughes

Take this with a grain of salt but having been through the edgy teenager phase and read many naruto betrayal/revenge fics, I can say, people don't SI into a guy that's constantly getting ripped apart, but they SI into him so they can go full AU in that they can revel in the suffering to fuel their hatred so they can power-up their dark side to kill god/defy fate/rule the world or some other bullshit. On the flip side, the female fanfic writers does the opposite by reveling in the pity they have for the suffering person and try to mother-hen all the pain away.

Elijah Taylor
Elijah Taylor

He was only looking out for her best interest. Even if he did was retarded its still not justified to just abandon him on the streets after all the shit he went through to save your life.

Matthew Gutierrez
Matthew Gutierrez

the shitty gorilla sakura being a cuckqueen raising Sasgay's daughter from another woman provided so much entertainment value that Kishi found his way, in the end.

Christopher Bailey
Christopher Bailey

He never becomes a hero.
Nigga, are you forgetting who responsible for solving everything in the end? Pro tip: it's not reinhardt, is the guy who can reset.

Charles Reyes
Charles Reyes

Except it was a thankless job. Worse yet, he lost something real important to him thus driving him insane.

Jackson Johnson
Jackson Johnson

Well, no. Every book is escapism. Every story ever is escapism.
You need to read more and experience more stories.

Ian Torres
Ian Torres

Its still shit and you should kill yourself, narutard.

Brayden Perry
Brayden Perry

Dude what the fuck are you guys talking about what am I missing?

I wasn't even insulting anyone, I don't even know what the conversation is about, I just saw everyone quoting that and thought it was curious if you guys didn't understand.

holy fucking christ, how miserable are you people. grow the fuck up instead of wasting your energy picking fights on the littlest things.

Joseph White
Joseph White

He gets less than nothing for all of his effort though, he even killed himself because of it.

Dylan Price
Dylan Price

Geez is this a reason why he decided to go to alleys and keep running into the 3 same thugs?

Kayden Morales
Kayden Morales

In ESL

Joshua Morris
Joshua Morris

There has been alot of tension in this thread, just leave it be. Its been constant fighting.

Caleb Ross
Caleb Ross

You are absolutely fucking retarded. Just fuck off already, newfag.

Oliver Williams
Oliver Williams

Then don't start fights before knowing the context you cockmongoling asshole.

Carter Green
Carter Green

The hero who is never recognized for his sacrifices is a wish fulfillment all it's own. Why do you think people like the ending of The Dark Knight so much? It's because they like the tragic idea of a hero who cares so much for the people he cares about that he doesn't even need recognition for it.

Christopher Baker
Christopher Baker

No, it was to try and recreate the meeting with Emilia or Felt.

Brandon Flores
Brandon Flores

a never ending shit that mods babysit

Isaiah Nelson
Isaiah Nelson

I'm so desperate to defend a shitty show that I bring some out of context examples so that people think my comparison is valid.

Re:Zero fanboys are making this show the new SAO.

Oliver Ramirez
Oliver Ramirez

Just stay away from Sup Forums you crossboarding faggot.

Jaxson Morgan
Jaxson Morgan

OP here. I haven't seen Re:Zero yet. Why is just mentioning it making everyone so angry?

Levi Sanchez
Levi Sanchez

in ESL

Andrew Lee
Andrew Lee

votes
CR is being retarded now. It's points calculated from various things, not votes.

Nathan Gutierrez
Nathan Gutierrez

It's shit. SHIT

Jacob Nguyen
Jacob Nguyen

Dunno but I'm glad this turned into a Re:Zero thread because I enjoy this series.

Dominic Scott
Dominic Scott

He was only looking out for her best interest
By breaking promises? Sure, why not?

Nicholas Nelson
Nicholas Nelson

Except SAO was shit.

Constant shitposting and constat shillers trying to defend it. Everyoone is mad becuase there are people who legitimately think its just another SAO clone or tried to ride off Konosuba, blame digibro for that one. Then there are the people who go full autismo due to constantly being bombarded by this shit that they went on outright crusades.

Benjamin Cooper
Benjamin Cooper

See

Angel Diaz
Angel Diaz

We somehow converted this thread into a Re:Zero.

Charles Williams
Charles Williams

Because due to how everything else played out in the past, he assume the only way for Emilia to be safe was to be by her side. Technically he was right.

Nathan Davis
Nathan Davis

Emilia rejected him on the second loop. If It was only to see Felt, which he did, he could've run afterwards or called a guard. Instead he got killed.

Ryan Gomez
Ryan Gomez

Second loop.
You mean third loop.

Andrew Turner
Andrew Turner

Who the fuck knows.

Carter Lee
Carter Lee

Implying this show isn't shit
Every season has a show that people claim it is really good and that shitposters just don't know what they are saying. SAO was one in it's time, Erased was last season's show, and this and next season is Re:Zero. Deal with it.

Charles Powell
Charles Powell

could've run afterwards

She was wall hoppping on roofs.

called a guard

But he did exactly that in the fourth loop

John Green
John Green

Like every other thread where it's mentioned.

Lincoln Scott
Lincoln Scott

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Xavier Martin
Xavier Martin

By breaking her trust? Why the fuck if you want to stay in somebody's side would you take the risk to lose her trust? Is there something he wanted to prove? Intentions are nothing if your actions are shit.

Aaron Bailey
Aaron Bailey

So, Ram or Rem?

Dominic Cook
Dominic Cook

It's because they like the tragic idea of a hero who cares so much for the people he cares about that he doesn't even need recognition for it.
Wish fulfillment implies they wish this upon themselves.
not being recognized ever
wish
Now that's what I call masochism.

Colton Murphy
Colton Murphy

It isn't if you like the "insufferable fanbase" tag, but I'd guess you guys are probably past the point of no return.

Ryder Foster
Ryder Foster

Really? Kabaneri is more hyped up.

Brandon Barnes
Brandon Barnes

could've run afterwards
as in Run Away
But he did exactly that in the fourth loop
After dying, when a genre savvy guy in fantasy worlds has no reason to think there aren't guards.

Ayden Roberts
Ayden Roberts

Its just a very dividing series with people who really like it, people who really dont (be it because they dont like all the suffering, or see it as edgy or just dont like that other people like it) and then you just have people who like to start shit and are trolling or are arguing for arguing´s sake.
If anything all this shitstorm has made me more curious to read it since its gotta have something going for it to make it so divisive.

Gavin Butler
Gavin Butler

Can I kill both?

Colton Ward
Colton Ward

Why not both? And Emilia.

David Peterson
David Peterson

I wanna Ram the Rem.

You got that wrong user.

Leo Rogers
Leo Rogers

No, because as soon as Emilia was left alone she got killed by bishops.

He was basing his judgement on what happened in the past which was that someone was targeting her, and at any point she left her gaurd down she would be killed. He wanted to keep her safe in the risk of breaking said trust.

Caleb Allen
Caleb Allen

A lot of people at Kabaneri have accepted how shit the show is. Is Mayoiga levels now. The only shitpost we have is wether Mumei is a loli or not and long ass talks about weapons and explosions.

Daniel Fisher
Daniel Fisher

People value more than just material things and praise. We also value character traits like selflessness and heroism. When characters exhibit those traits to the fullest, especially characters that we can easily relate to, this is a form of wish fulfillment.

Adrian Watson
Adrian Watson

What, couldn't he keep his promise and then if she got killed, proceed to kill himself and not make the promise next time because he knows what will happen?

John Thompson
John Thompson

Except he didn't know she got killed atm, due to her abandoming him on the streets.

Luke Miller
Luke Miller

The fucker has time travel. Regardless of not knowing where he would reset, he knows he can reset.

The more reason to stay close to her too. If he feels she's in danger, you wouldn't break promises to lose her trust.

Levi Smith
Levi Smith

I'm not sure what's worse between the female and male list. But I dislike fujoshit more than I hate harem so I guess the female one.

Connor Murphy
Connor Murphy

The savepoint prevented him from moving back after the duel.

Noah Evans
Noah Evans

The game saves in some random spots user, he doesn't know if or when she dies the game could save. The end of the third arc is a clear indication of save-points fucking him over.

Lucas Johnson
Lucas Johnson

This convenience somehow keeps the Re:Zero fags contempt.

James Edwards
James Edwards

I knew Mayoiga was bad, but this is really kind of sad.

Ian Long
Ian Long

Stray Dogs is flopping.

Thomas Diaz
Thomas Diaz

Look, the earliest he could've resetted is the beggining of arc 2, and he has all the tools to swiftly pass everything there. That's the lame alternative. The good alternative is that the reset point moved, which he could consider since he has experienced that reset points move.

He still can, but the author just wants to fuck him up.

Juan Kelly
Juan Kelly

Its a curse user, its also being controlled by a personified deus ex. Ofc I'd be convenient, she is trying to morph him into the perfect husbando, Satella that is.

John Wilson
John Wilson

my top 3 of the season are 2, 3, 5th place respectively (1,8,2 for males; 8,2,- for females)

Japan has good taste. I'm impressed. Surprised Flying Witch didn't make the girls top ten though.

also mfw BnHA can't even break the top 10

Hudson Martinez
Hudson Martinez

Since when charapedia polls have anything to do with quality of shows?

Matthew Nguyen
Matthew Nguyen

Nah, you just have shit taste, just like that minuscule sample of Japs.

Dominic Taylor
Dominic Taylor

Mayoiga is bad though.

Jackson Torres
Jackson Torres

Didn't Ekidna show us that there are timelines where he dies and stays dead?

Ryder White
Ryder White

It's not the Yandere witch, user, it's the author beign really obvious on his intentions. It stopped beign an story a long time ago. All this is an staged torture porn party, with an underdog MC, and you are all okay with that.

Noah Kelly
Noah Kelly

Using charapedia as a reference

Gabriel Gutierrez
Gabriel Gutierrez

Is that a problem? The only timeline you should care about is the present. He already fucked up the original timeline by getting ganked in the loot house so there's no point in being worried about it.

Adam Cooper
Adam Cooper

Some anons claim she might had done that to Subaru to fuck him up, as an illusion.

Aaron Cruz
Aaron Cruz

Just finished reading the second story arc of Re:Zero and I have a question
who is going to win the Subarub owl?

Samuel Myers
Samuel Myers

Technically Rem did. But Emilia is winning.

Nathan Ross
Nathan Ross

women have better taste

Brayden Diaz
Brayden Diaz

Nah, people dropping posts about it being shit in here aren't getting the thread derailed by defensive fanboys. Re Zero got that fanbase.

Dylan Anderson
Dylan Anderson

Rem won the subaru bowl with flying colors but Emilia is winning the bowl now.

Samuel Perez
Samuel Perez

Kill yourself landwhale.

Brody Ramirez
Brody Ramirez

found a salty bnhafag

Mayoiga is bad though.
At least it's a fun kind of bad. It's one of those trainwrecks that's fun to laugh at with other anons.

Jack Lee
Jack Lee

The fuck happened to the thread? I took a shit and now all I see are angry people and shitposting.

Connor Scott
Connor Scott

I'm more salty about Re:Zero desu, you being wrong about Boku no Hero is really just par for the course.

Robert Lewis
Robert Lewis

Joker game and Mayoiga that low
It's shit.
Sakamoto that high
Good taste.

Why is not AOTS Luluco there?

Ryder Nelson
Ryder Nelson

Re Zero got that fanbase.
I know now what it means when people say a fanbase is ruining a series for them. I used to mistakenly think it meant that they didn't want to be associated with the fanbase, but that's not it.

Re:Zero's fanbase is ruining the series because it has so many WN readers who will JUST NOT STOP FUCKING SPOILING EVERYTHING.

Ethan Phillips
Ethan Phillips

At least it's a fun kind of bad. It's one of those trainwrecks that's fun to laugh at with other anons.
I couldn't agree more. I actually look forward to it more than anything every week.

Jackson Roberts
Jackson Roberts

ReZero fans happened

Dylan Rivera
Dylan Rivera

THE SPOILERS MAKES YOU LOSE THE SHOCK AND AMPLIFIES THE PAIIIIN

Carson Turner
Carson Turner

But Mayoiga is 14th. "Lost Village" is its English title.

Connor Davis
Connor Davis

They try to shut everybody up with the edginess of the plot, mate. That's literally the best they have to shut up the naysayers.

Andrew Ross
Andrew Ross

No meme anime.

Connor Turner
Connor Turner

Why is not AOTS Luluco there?
Anything with a runtime of <20 mins automatically does badly in general polls and ratings. It's just one of those weird anomalies.

I'm more salty about Re:Zero desu
Re:Zero is unironically a great series when you actually take a moment to try to immerse yourself in the story instead of staying on edge out of fear that it's going to trick you the way SAO did. Also as long as you're not dumb enough to try to compare it with KonoSuba.

Thomas Sanchez
Thomas Sanchez

I might disagree with that. When anime only watchers looked at the series, it was underhyped calling it Konosuba or SAO which from there, the spoilers came out along with the manga. And then people became slightly more interested and started a war with the shit posters that have not read into the series, making those people ignorant, so on, etc. Basically, it is a back and forth battle with one of the slightly underhyped series that became slightly more hyped after people started calling out on the hypocrisy of Digibro and other so-called reviewers.

Easton Moore
Easton Moore

Oh fuck you're right. I just ctrl+f mayoiga.
Well at least it's listed.

Christian Rodriguez
Christian Rodriguez

You must have been taking a very long shit user. The thread's been this way for several hours now.

Sebastian Collins
Sebastian Collins

being this salty

Xavier Harris
Xavier Harris

it's going to trick you the way SAO did
But it does that, just that in the opposite way. Instead of Deus ex Machinas we got Diabolus in Machina, or something like that, where instead of something good out of nowhere, is something bad out of nowhere.

Joshua Miller
Joshua Miller

Why do fujos have the worst taste?

Henry Gutierrez
Henry Gutierrez

I actually enjoyed Re:Zero in the first few episodes. It was alright. I definitely went in trying to enjoy it. The most recent episodes have completely turned me off though. MC is annoying and insufferable, the rest of the characters are shallow waifubait and the villain was horrifyingly obvious.

Charles Gray
Charles Gray

The problem is that people who blindly hate on it insist that it's just yet another of those dude goes to a fantasy world series and never bother looking up more info about it, which annoys people who enjoy the series enough to know it isn't as simple as that.
The basic idea is that the MC needs to bruteforce the plot by reaching bad ends and respawning at set points, by the way. Watch the entire first episode with its two parts and you'll get an idea of how it's like.

Justin Moore
Justin Moore

after people started calling out on the hypocrisy of Digibro and other so-called reviewers.
and I'm glad they did.
Daily reminder for everyone else on what 'meta' means since Digibro said:
the MC of RE:Zero is meta

That's not what 'meta' means. You've taken the definition of the prefix 'meta-' and applied it to the definition of the adjective 'meta'. Ever since digibro made that mistake when describing Re:Zero so many others seem to have started making that same mistake as well.

'meta-[thing]' describes that which is the emergent property of a [thing] yet not an intrinsic part of that [thing] (see: metaphysics, meta-narrative). It also means 'above', but in a metaphorical sense (see: metamorphosis). However, when you simply say 'meta' as an adjective, there is nothing after the prefix, so instead it's describing something which is 'meta-itself'.

The protagonist of Re:Zero thinks he's in some sort of 'game-like' world, but he's not being 'meta'. He only ever refers to aspects of the 'metagame' of certain games that resemble the world he's in, which is closer to 'lampshading' or 'lampshade-hanging'. If he was referring to being trapped in an anime, that would be 'meta', but he doesn't refer to that, which is why it isn't 'meta'. Does that make sense to you now?

William Long
William Long

Too much of the aura of Inferno Cop/Ninja Slayer and not enough Kill la Kill.

Read too ironic shitpost tier to enjoy despite getting genuinely good after Midori is dealt with

Jason Carter
Jason Carter

Why is it?

Luis Rivera
Luis Rivera

Give any topic and Sup Forums will go to full lengths to argue it.

Alexander Baker
Alexander Baker

What the fuck is a digibro/why does this fanbase care about reviewers? Is this what the whole thread derail is about?

Jonathan Phillips
Jonathan Phillips

It's shit.
Shit poll or you consider them shit because they are doing low on some shitty poll?

Jacob Rogers
Jacob Rogers

Lampshading is a form of meta, user. It's recognizing the tropes of your medium or genre and making direct reference to them.

Tyler Thompson
Tyler Thompson

Unless I missed the point, I think he was referring to the humour, user. It is as simple as that, and that's what he meant.

Nathaniel Carter
Nathaniel Carter

Ah yeah, and there's also how Sup Forums has gotten so bad this season that there are people who actually watch anime reviews on YouTube as well. Since apparently one of the popular "reviewers" said that Re:Zero is shit, they felt the need to collectively shit on the show as well.
I was expecting this season to be terrible in regards to shitposters and newfags, but not to this level.

Jaxson Harris
Jaxson Harris

Re:Zero's fanbase is ruining the series because it has so many WN readers who will JUST NOT STOP FUCKING SPOILING EVERYTHING.
Are you new? Sup Forums always hated secondaries. Deal with it or fuck off

Xavier Roberts
Xavier Roberts

Bleach has plenty of bad guy asspulls and it generally tends to agitate readers.

Just because the hero isn't protected by inane things and the villain is means its good.

Then again Sup Forums only likes little girl shows and anything more complicated will be ripped into the moment it makes one triggering fuckup/gathers too many normalfags

Adam Torres
Adam Torres

Bitches love Sakamoto

Chase Morgan
Chase Morgan

I don't know what the hell whitefox is doing with how they directed the later episode, but I gues theya re building up for a huge tonal shift in the series. Becuase the MC that was portrayed in every other mendium except the anime isn't annoying or insufferable at all, not to mention all characters were fleshed out from the start. But I am guessing they are doing this due to time constraints, and pacing.

James King
James King

No user thats not a real problem. Its only a problem because people keep trying to argue against those guys when they either clearly never gonna change their mind or are just trolling.
Really all youre doing by arguing with those types is pic related. Even worse when you let it get to you. Its a bad meme.

Only when there is sufficient audience.

Joseph Evans
Joseph Evans

Since apparently one of the popular "reviewers" said that Re:Zero is shit, they felt the need to collectively shit on the show as well.
Implying people can't make their own opinions
Is not like there are people that can actually recognize shit user. Not that you would know.

Benjamin Stewart
Benjamin Stewart

There isn't really any bad guy asspulls but more like save point asspulls.

Ian Allen
Ian Allen

They call it Sao clone because it looked for them as "another MMO anime" because for these retards any anime about being transported to fantasy world are mmos now.

Caleb Nguyen
Caleb Nguyen

Becuase those shitters are going into our threads and taking them over.

Gavin Nguyen
Gavin Nguyen

No, it has nothing to do with that, it had to do with him obnoxiously giving people nicknames, making bizarre, out of place jokes to people he barely knows, and making cringy references to the fact that he's in a fantasy/game world.

Lincoln Thompson
Lincoln Thompson

But it does that, just that in the opposite way. Instead of Deus ex Machinas we got Diabolus in Machina
When I say SAO tricked people, I'm referring to it's bait-and-switch of setting and genre, from 'trapped in an MMO death game' to 'generic battle harem', which utterly ruined one of the most interesting premises in recent anime history.

I definitely went in trying to enjoy it.
Hey, good to hear. As long as you're being honest with yourself.

The most recent episodes have completely turned me off though. MC is annoying and insufferable
Fair enough. I can stand his stupidity and lampshading mainly because it's balanced out with demonstrations of altruism, enthusiasm, and something which has happened several times now: he sets himself up in a manner that seems like he's about to take advantage of someone only to request something totally clever and mundane instead (such as asking for Emilia's name).
the rest of the characters are shallow waifubait
For now that's more or less true. Hopefully they're fleshed out a little more as the series progresses.
and the villain was horrifyingly obvious.
It was? Did I miss some obvious piece of foreshadowing?

Nathan Fisher
Nathan Fisher

I sure hope the people who hate the series really have formed their own opinions about it instead of following what some faggot said, then. All I know is that I've seen this digibro or whatever get mentioned far too often for it to be simply a coincidence.

Brody Bennett
Brody Bennett

Only when topic is popular. Otherwise it will be dead

Robert James
Robert James

He has that overly positive personality for a reason user. Its a ploy to hide his cripling depression.

Hunter Lee
Hunter Lee

People who watch e-celebs are spouting buzzwords to make themselves feel good.

Aaron Jones
Aaron Jones

Just because the hero isn't protected by inane things and the villain is means its good.
Are you implying an asspull is good because it affects the villain? Don't show double standars now.

Look at that panel. You cannot tell me he isn't another ln-kun. The only difference is that now he's underpowered.

Thomas Roberts
Thomas Roberts

Why is this fanbase bringing drama from some random faggot no one cares about here when those sort of arguments have existed ever since sao? Same thing happened with danmachi.

Nicholas Gray
Nicholas Gray

It was? Did I miss some obvious piece of foreshadowing?
Evil clown is an extremely common trope. He was also the only male character around so of course it had to be him god forbid one of the girls be the bad guy.

Levi Rivera
Levi Rivera

It is a far better way to form an opinion that getting impressed by deaths and gore and claim it is actually good

Jason Martin
Jason Martin

A lot of people at Kabaneri have accepted how shit the show is. Is Mayoiga levels now.
I'm not seeing it

Hudson Mitchell
Hudson Mitchell

It's not overtly positive user, it's fucking tactless and annoying.

Kevin Collins
Kevin Collins

Just because he isn't an insufferable faggot doesn't mean that people would still want to self-insert into his shitty life. The reason the series was so imactful was due to the fact that MC was so easy to sympathise with.

Easton Gray
Easton Gray

You and I have different definitions of being overly positive then. As I find overly positive people both tackless and annoying.

Nathan Fisher
Nathan Fisher

I'm glad Netoge has been confirmed trash that only "muh dick" retards watch.

Eli Baker
Eli Baker

Lampshading is a form of meta
Did you just ignore that whole explanation of the word definition or are you too dense to understand it?

It's recognizing the tropes of your medium or genre and making direct reference to them
Referencing the 'meta-narrative' isn't itself 'meta', just as a reference to a type of food isn't itself edible. meta- is a prefix to a noun. meta is an adjective. stop using it like a noun.

Wyatt Wood
Wyatt Wood

Danmachi wasn't transported into fantasy world. Bell was native there.

Owen Parker
Owen Parker

Evil clown is an extremely common trope.
Oh, right. I'm still thinking he's a suspect, but I'm not ruling out one of the twins either.

Julian Cruz
Julian Cruz

Except you aren't forming your own opinions in this case, you're watching some fag react to the show and forming your opinions based on his opnions. Not that someone who watches reviews would understand, keep being ignorant like that.
Good and bad is subjective, by the way. Personally, I find the show enjoyable enough although I really don't care about the gore, especially not the hyper-realistic OH NO gore from the manga version.

Parker Price
Parker Price

I'm glad your favourite anime has been confirmed trash that only faggots like you watch

Ayden Turner
Ayden Turner

a series geared toward men is popular among men specifically.
therefore it must be trash
lolwut

Jack Lewis
Jack Lewis

As a guy who read the WN.

Both of you are both completely right and completely wrong at the same time.

Parker Long
Parker Long

Why Jojo part 4 is the most western favorite but not the Japs?

David Wilson
David Wilson

Why watch something that's so horribly written? Its only redeeming feature is the doujin bait girls.

Austin Thomas
Austin Thomas

RE:Zero is even more geared towards men too yet it still has votes.

Jordan Lopez
Jordan Lopez

I understand your definition, but you're ignoring the fact that definitions of a word can change and have changed in the case of the term meta. You can just use meta to refer to something referring to itself or the conventions of it's genre or medium. Lampshade hanging is a form of this.

Brandon Wilson
Brandon Wilson

bait-and-switch of setting and genre
This show does that too. From a standard fantasy anime with hints of mistery to a gorefest with lots of suffering. Why are you okay with that?

altruism, enthusiasm, and he sets himself up in a manner that seems like he's about to take advantage of someone only to request something totally clever and mundane instead

Now, explain me, why is this attitude new or original in the medium. Kirito also is altruist, enthusiast and keeps himself humble (Beater thing at the beginning, PSTD in Gun Gale, he having guilt trips for her cousin/sister, helping tamer loli, etc). Is really hard to differentiate it from one another when the only significative difference is that one is underpowered and the other is overpowered.

Brandon Cooper
Brandon Cooper

That isn't the fucking point. The point is the fact that people brought up the same arguments for a long time. Anime reviewers didn't invent this retarded argument and you needs to stop bringing your butthurt about their shitty reviews here.

Julian Phillips
Julian Phillips

Well not really, it becomes an absolute sausagefest after the mansion arc and stays that way. Once arc 3 airs there will be alot of BL dojuins and female votes soon.

Henry Kelly
Henry Kelly

No memeyoiga
kiznaiver that low

What went wrong?

William Walker
William Walker

Pay attention to all the plot conveniences, those coincidences that are there to make the show more dramatic. There are a lot of them and a lot of guys have accepted them.

Henry Lee
Henry Lee

It's a poll about which anime they're still actively watching though and right now it's massively male oriented.

Noah Smith
Noah Smith

You're aware of the fact that Japan has much more than 500 people, right?

Robert Butler
Robert Butler

Good and bad aren't subjective. On a story the degree the story can keep you inmersed defines how good it is. Re:Zero doesn't takes itself seriously when it should due to it's themes of death and suffering, therefore it fails at beign a story. It's bad in that angle. Another thing is if you can enjoy that, which actually is subjective and you do, so good for you.

Lincoln Turner
Lincoln Turner

but you're ignoring the fact that definitions of a word can change
Only if you're some sort of wretched descriptivist.

If people keep misusing a word often enough and loudly enough, it's true that they can bring forth polysemy from that word, but in this instance, that new definition cheapens the adjective meta, which is something formerly reserved for specific pieces of art that manage to be both themselves and the emergent properties of themselves simultaneously. Now people throw that word around to reference literally anything that can be described with a trope, which is as pointless as calling everyone special.

Nathan Turner
Nathan Turner

Well those shows are still flopping hard outside the poll so it's a bit accurate in that regard.

Owen Nelson
Owen Nelson

Memeyoiga is Lost Village

Jaxon Sullivan
Jaxon Sullivan

Re:Zero doesn't takes itself seriously when it should due to it's themes of death and suffering
The MC is putting on a front, the cat notices later on.

Zachary Hughes
Zachary Hughes

just because there's edge on a series it should take itself seriously, if it doesn't then it's shit
Fuck no, the best edgy shows are those that can't stop joking about that point.

Carson Miller
Carson Miller

Yeah, no.

Evan James
Evan James

This. Delta deserves to fail hard.

Jeremiah Wilson
Jeremiah Wilson

Only if you're some sort of wretched descriptivist.
You imply that language is anything other than a way for people to understand each other. How language is used is the only thing that matters.

Now people throw that word around to reference literally anything that can be described with a trope
Not all tropes are meta. You can unabashedly be something that is very common in your genre or medium and not be meta in the slightest. This isn't the case with lampshading though.

Luis Carter
Luis Carter

This show does that too. From a standard fantasy anime with hints of mistery to a gorefest with lots of suffering. Why are you okay with that?
Because that's a change for the better! I would have quite possibly dropped it if I hadn't seen part 2 of the first episode. That's the other thing, it's not a bait-and-switch if it happens almost immediately. SAO went for 14 whole episodes before throwing away its premise.

Kirito also is altruist,
sure
enthusiast
No he fucking isn't. Kirito is a relatively emotionless blank slate who goes along with whatever the plot demands of him.
and keeps himself humble
'Pointlessly lies about his power level out of fear of rejection' is not a display of humility in any sense.

Re:Zero doesn't takes itself seriously when it should due to it's themes of death and suffering
Could you elaborate? I didn't see it ever not taking itself seriously.

Kayden Brown
Kayden Brown

「アニメが始まる前から好きな作品。アコちゃんが可愛い!」
「もう最高に面白い!キャラも凄くイイ!最後まで絶対に見ます!」
「原作が面白く小説の時から気になっていた。二人の絡みが面白い」

I can't trust this poll.

Aaron Harris
Aaron Harris

I know that user, I know the material. With that in mind I can say Re:Zero doesn't takes itself seriously in it's themes of death and suffering. It makes you believe it does with using excesives amount of it, but in reality everything goes the author's way like a puppet show, where the characters lack common sense, plot elements are conveniently used and then dropped (Metea, for example), people die only to create shock factor (Rem, both in the second and third arc) when there's never an indication why they specifically should die in those situations, we have generic tropes (Emilia, Drills Loli, Reinhardt, Roswall) and to top it off, the source of all evil is also a generic trope (Yandere).

Ethan Rogers
Ethan Rogers

That's a good point, but I was talking specifically about Re:Zero. Thanks for generalizing though.

Dominic Nelson
Dominic Nelson

I just masturbated on this picture

Nathaniel Jackson
Nathaniel Jackson

Someone says something bad about Re.Zero
5 Autist go full JIDF
Both the shitposter and the retarded fanbase that gets triggered so easily should just kill themselves of Sup Forums

Jack Young
Jack Young

This isn't the case with lampshading though.
lampshading means 'referencing the meta-narrative'. Referencing something isn't the same as being something.

Changing the definition turns that word into a mess. You're trying to say that 'meta' now means referencing a word which begins with 'meta-', which means that philosophy is 'meta', bribing people is 'meta', 'wavedashing' is 'meta', and even butterflies are 'meta'. It gets totally ridiculous.

Justin Sanchez
Justin Sanchez

is nobody going to question Boku no Hero Academia's low ranking?

Jeremiah Wright
Jeremiah Wright

Plus Ultra!!

William Allen
William Allen

plot elements are conveniently used and then dropped (Metea, for example)
Actually, about that one:
The protagonist's phone should run out of batteries after a week or two, so it makes sense for that theme to be dropped after a few more arcs.

Alexander Gonzalez
Alexander Gonzalez

Jojo
Surprised females even voted for JoJo. Rohan hasn't appeared yet.

Landon Green
Landon Green

He still has his phone?

Asher Wilson
Asher Wilson

muh capeshit show with generical shonen mc
It's shit

Hudson Scott
Hudson Scott

Nothing to question, it's shit.

Kevin Allen
Kevin Allen

triggered
m8 i think they just like discussing stuff

is nobody going to question Boku no Hero Academia's low ranking?
Of course not, it's where it should reasonably be for an inoffensive and generic 'high school asexual shounen battle with superpowers' series.

Jacob Stewart
Jacob Stewart

So, you like gorefest? Cool.

emotionless blank slate who goes along with whatever the plot demands of him
I can say the same about Subaru, both in his reactionary attitude and in his emotional reactions. He's moved by the plot too, not the other way around. Why, then, he would dare to betray Emilia's trust on arc 3? Because the plot needed so in order to not only separate him from Emilia, but also tie him with Rem.

'Pointlessly lies about his power level out of fear of rejection' is not a display of humility in any sense.
Is on the same level as "I'm gonna make clever and mundane requests" instead of, you know, something actually useful. Also, you ignored the rest.

Could you elaborate?

Jaxson Brooks
Jaxson Brooks

Guys, guys... did you already forgot what a Metea is, and how such element could had helped the MC, especially after the consequences of arc 2?
But instead we dropped it because such element already did it's job for the plot.

Joshua Ortiz
Joshua Ortiz

He gave it to the big guy didn't he? As payment for the insignia?

Ryan Russell
Ryan Russell

You got yourself so inmersed in your definitions that you didn't paid attention to what he wanted to say when he used the word. You are stuck in the Denotation, while ignoring the Connotation.

Matthew Cox
Matthew Cox

Referencing the metanarrative makes you a part of the metanarrative.

You're trying to say that 'meta' now means referencing a word which begins with 'meta-'
No, I'm saying that when a work specifically refers to its own tropes, it's being meta.

meta
adj.
(of a creative work) referring to itself or to the conventions of its genre; self-referential.

Robert Perez
Robert Perez

He showed it on the last chapter, and you are missing the point.

Connor Perez
Connor Perez

He uses it a little later on but phones don't last forever mate.

Michael Scott
Michael Scott

Nope, saving his life was payment for the insignia.

Jace Baker
Jace Baker

Netoge is trashy wish-fulfillment garbage that tries to hide that in the form of a "comedy" with an annoying "le /r9k/ girl".

Eli Myers
Eli Myers

I don't care how late I am into the thread.
Japan liking re:zero kinda proves we were right in calling it complete shit.

Jeremiah Hughes
Jeremiah Hughes

Ah, it'd be neat if he took photos of everyone to help with the complete mental breakdown thing.

Isaiah Howard
Isaiah Howard

Go to bed Digi.

Zachary Butler
Zachary Butler

Literally SAO with edge and shitty White Fox animation. Dropped it quite hard.

Brayden Roberts
Brayden Roberts

I'm sorry can you please elaborate?

Hunter Smith
Hunter Smith

I appreciate you're well constructed opinions of being objectively wrong

Nathaniel Wright
Nathaniel Wright

That would be useless. After rewinding, the cellphone memory would also be erased, as if he never took the photos to begin with.

Brayden Torres
Brayden Torres

emotionless blank slate who goes along with whatever the plot demands of him
I can say the same about Subaru
Subaru has been anything but emotionless so far. Part of why some people dislike his character is actually for that reason. He's not a black slate that people can easily project themselves onto because he acts and reacts in ways that most people wouldn't. As for going along with what the plot demands of him, Kirito was doing that even though he had a world of options available to him. Subaru's trapped in an endless nightmare, so the author has a good excuse

."I'm gonna make clever and mundane requests" instead of, you know, something actually useful.
Asking for Emilia's name was pure genius. He didn't know that save points could change at the time, remember?

The only example you give of Re:Zero not taking itself seriously (outside of character designs matching tropes, which is more laziness than anything else), seems to be Metea being forgotten about, but that's actually avoiding a plot hole if anything. Characters dying to create shock value is something that a dark series which takes itself seriously would do. That's pretty much par for the course.

It seems like your main gripe is that the premise is too convenient for the author and gives him too much freedom to play around with the story according to his whims.

Camden Gutierrez
Camden Gutierrez

I can't think of a use for it then unless he sells it and becomes rich as fuck, I think that'd go against what the author is doing though.

Jason Jones
Jason Jones

If you were going to delete your post you should at least correct the grammar first user.

Lincoln Anderson
Lincoln Anderson

Problem is he never really had a chance to do so, not before arc 3 that is. As he hasn't met any vendors or people willing to buy a metea let alone afford it.

Lucas Richardson
Lucas Richardson

My bad, I am terribly tired.

Julian Sanchez
Julian Sanchez

Different person who's enjoying Re:Zero here, the gore in the manga seems to only exist for the sake of shock. I mean, just look at how graphic most of Subaru's deaths are, and how detailed is the gore in the manga in particular - I'm not saying that I can't handle gore as I'm used to it by now, only that the manga seems to only be that gory to attract people who like edge.
I guess the BDs for the anime will become like that too.

Justin Garcia
Justin Garcia

we

Parker Lewis
Parker Lewis

how such element could had helped the MC, especially after the consequences of arc 2
How would you have used the metia in arc 2? I'm curious.

Referencing the metanarrative makes you a part of the metanarrative.
Everything in the narrative is (in that same sense) a part of the metanarrative. It's the metanarrative.

You're right, I was going off-topic. Let me get back to the point then:
I'm saying that when a work specifically refers to its own tropes, it's being meta.
meta
adj.
(of a creative work) referring to itself or to the conventions of its genre; self-referential.
That means that Re:Zero is specifically not being meta. Subaru refers specficially to video game tropes and Re:Zero an anime, so there's no justification for claiming it to be self-referential.

Netoge is trashy wish-fulfillment garbage
Wouldn't deny that for a second, but I've been enjoying its humour so far. It's guilty-pleasure territory.

Levi Gutierrez
Levi Gutierrez

but in reality everything goes the author's way like a puppet show, where the characters lack common sense
I might need to disagree on that point, common sense is played onto somewhat of certain emotions and the credibility of Subaru that everyone is suspicious of.
plot elements are conveniently used and then dropped (Metea, for example)
Like not the phone or Metea itself? Because the raws might have mentioned it at one point and explored it into the source material.
people die only to create shock factor (Rem, both in the second and third arc) when there's never an indication why they specifically should die in those situations
Actually, it kinda did, but you are reading spoilers. It explains it in further detail of the circumstances but you are only seeing the spoilers which does not fully see the other side.
we have generic tropes (Emilia, Drills Loli, Reinhardt, Roswall) and to top it off, the source of all evil is also a generic trope (Yandere).
Generic tropes will only be flat if you let it be. The author actually gives depth to their characters in one way or another. You only got to see the surface, I can't blame you for not being able to read the WN yourself.
I hope I didn't sound rude but at least be patient for this series to further go into its plot.

Joseph Sullivan
Joseph Sullivan

Subaru respawns when he dies. Roswaal has a magic book that tells him what Subaru is going to do. If they got in a fight, Roswaal would know what Subaru is going to do because his book told him so. When Subaru dies he knows what Roswaal is going to do because he already lived that fight. Roswaal's book shows him that Subaru knows what Roswaal's next move will be and he plans accordingly. When Subaru dies again he has this knowledge and works around Roswaal's new plan. He knows you know. He also knows you know he knows, and so on and so forth.

Now give me even more (You)s.

James Reed
James Reed

I'm pretty sure half of them would chose that without a second of hesitation.
No lad, it's literally a timelooping hell. You're literally choosing to go to hell early.

Leo Gomez
Leo Gomez

It's shit.

Jason Russell
Jason Russell

The humour would be okay if it weren't so badly done, they keep making pig out to be a /r9k/ type of person but she's pretty much a normie herself, she's 10/10, shit at games, has a fiancé, and has a group of friends.

Anthony Edwards
Anthony Edwards

No yous for (You)

Xavier Bailey
Xavier Bailey

Sample size is way too small for any of the data to be meaningful, also I have no idea what kind of userbase that 'Charapedia' site has but it's undoubtedly biased (Due to lack of diversity in userbase).

Camden Brooks
Camden Brooks

4. Bungo Stray Dogs - 483 votes
Seriously?
2. Haven't You Heard? I'm Sakamoto - 312 votes
Only number 2
So even the women in Japan has shit taste

Chase Ward
Chase Ward

141149953
You just gave me another one. But I won't give you any.

Carter Morales
Carter Morales

Subaru refers specficially to video game tropes and Re:Zero an anime, so there's no justification for claiming it to be self-referential.
Being trapped in a video game world is a trope of anime, stop with this pedantic garbage.

Noah Allen
Noah Allen

Uhoh you just posted about something involving Re:Zero. I hope your prepared OP its going to be an absolute shitstorm.

Camden Davis
Camden Davis

Slowpoke, I have bad news for you.

Charles Gomez
Charles Gomez

it's boring shit everyone has seen before in any other shounen

Jordan Russell
Jordan Russell

This is somewhat of an actual good debate, no one is name calling or some shit. No one dismissed each other in a immature way.

Carter Johnson
Carter Johnson

I don't think two anime is enough for it be considered a trope of anime.

Jeremiah Rogers
Jeremiah Rogers

women
Honestly, has this demographic ever done a single good for anime as a whole?

Xavier Hughes
Xavier Hughes

Subaru also has a world of options. There are a lot of moments he could've avoided, a lot of moments where he could had stopped and think, yet the show insist that he will react to things instead of beign pro-active. He start to think after things happen to him, instead of looking for way to prevent them, like asking about the world for example.
I'll give you the emotionless one because I can't defend myself here.

Asking for Emilia's name
Dude, asking a girl's name after getting her trust is not something "clever". Is something natural. Don't praise him for such small thing.

Metea being forgotten about, but that's actually avoiding a plot hole if anything.

I don't see how that avoids a plot hole. It tears one open because the author didn't bothered to use the elements of the universe in a natural manner, and instead brought it up to make the negotiations in arc 1 smoother (which by the way, a Metea just so happened to be valued as equally as a really important stone) and then decided to drop it.

Characters dying to create shock value is something that a dark series which takes itself seriously would do.
Akame ga Kill did the shock value thing too. We don't take that one seriously.

Shock value is not what a serious author should seek in death. It is meaning and it's consequence and the handling of such element what's matter. Rem's deaths in arcs 2 and 3 are for purely shock factor, as there is no factual evidence that she should be the one dying, just "mere casuality". Instead, she's the one because she loves the MC, and we want to make the MC suffer so here you go.

your main gripe

I love the premise. My gripe is the fact that the author is very obvious in it's intention, relies a lot on shock factor instead of carefully threading the narrative, and the fact that fanboys are too lenient about those details.

Charles Jenkins
Charles Jenkins

I don't think two anime is enough for it be considered a trope of anime.
Please watch more anime before forming an opinion, you boundless retard.

Jack Baker
Jack Baker

Arc 3 and beyond has entire chapters dedicated to gore. It's a thing in the original story.

Asher Wilson
Asher Wilson

List some "trapped in an MMO" anime then retard.

Jonathan Myers
Jonathan Myers

stealthily asking for recommendations

Aaron Kelly
Aaron Kelly

The game aspect is just the latest take on a classic trope.
What most retards who say "its not a game!" don't understand is that it is still part of tired trope. The transported to a magical world trope.
It is too over fucking done for such a novel concept.

Also the problem with Re:zero is the plot or setting, its the horribly, absolutely insanely dull characters. It's been a while since I've not cared about a single character in a show or how they interact with others.

Jack Mitchell
Jack Mitchell

mention re:zero
everyone loses their minds
what the fuck, i leave for a week and re:zero goes from being generally liked to shit on as bad as naruto and SAO? what the fuck?

Luis Gutierrez
Luis Gutierrez

Uh oh, I just realized that even though everyone sperges out about how every other anime nowadays is "trapped in an MMO", there's literally only been two of them but it gets so much attention because SAO happened to be one of them.
Better like I was only pretending to be retarded.

Ethan Cooper
Ethan Cooper

stuck in an mmo 1st place again

I want them to get nuked once more

Jeremiah Wright
Jeremiah Wright

How would you have used the metia in arc 2? I'm curious.
Instead of asking that to me, go ask the author why he dropped it.
Here, have some examples: Ask Roswall to give him a Metia or if he can negotiate a Metia. Ask Drills loli or Puck how to create a Metia. Tell the maids that in order to protect the mansion, as a non magic user, a Metia would be useful. There are ways to use it as an element of the world, yet the author used it as a concept to move the plot.

Isaiah Carter
Isaiah Carter

If a show is liked, funposters feel the need to funpost all over it

Josiah Gray
Josiah Gray

Fine, is "transported to fantasy world/videogame" wide enough for you? It's more or less the same trope.

Aaron Richardson
Aaron Richardson

No him, but the author is a well known sadist. So his intentions from the start was clear. We just didn't exect for him to pull it off so masterfully. How he has developed the characters in a way that we grow attached to them only to leave the readers in pain shows how well he can pull on other peopels emotions. Rem is a prime example of this especially. Naoru hated her and wanted her gone, he made her become one of the best girls, Naoru loved her and then he killed her off. The following days was an absolute shitstorm and then he released the "what if" chapters.

Samuel Mitchell
Samuel Mitchell

generally liked
You mean in the reddit and /v/ threads?

Alexander Howard
Alexander Howard

Charapedia
Literally facebook polls!

Gabriel Myers
Gabriel Myers

Metias are ridiculously expensive though, he wouldn't be able to get one so easily. And I'd rather he go into the magic he can use than the metia.

Eli Smith
Eli Smith

Being trapped in a video game world is a trope of anime, stop with this pedantic garbage.
I'm not being pedantic for the sake of it. It's reaching to act like Subaru is referencing a cliche of 'being in an anime about being trapped in a video game world' when the anime itself depicts someone who simply finds themselves in an unknown fantasy setting and reacts with initial bewilderment, and then applies a set of assumptions formed through overexposure to video games to his actions. His character can appear self-aware because he applies knowledge of 'video game tropes' to his setting, but there's nothing to suggest that he's not simply a character played straight.

Even if being trapped in a video game world is a trope of anime, that doesn't mean that all video game tropes are magically now anime tropes.

Charles Barnes
Charles Barnes

nice bait

Carter Cruz
Carter Cruz

Its a great show but there will be divides becuase if a show is well liked, there will be people ready to shit all over it like hipster contrarians

reddit
/v/
Reading Moon Web Novels

What?

Andrew Rivera
Andrew Rivera

when it first came out there were very few people talking about it, and it was never general-tier shit
now i see people getting enraged about some okay-tier anime

Ian Morgan
Ian Morgan

two
Wait, don't tell me you're including Re:Zero.

Mason Roberts
Mason Roberts

And you thought there is never a girl online?
Wait what?
Is this Netoge?

What the fuck

Charles Mitchell
Charles Mitchell

It happened with Grimgar too, a bunch of shitposters came in and started making dumb posts about how it's an SAO clone.

Joshua Campbell
Joshua Campbell

great show
But user its not. You have to be autistic to want to drudge through such shit characters just to get suffering about characters we don't even care for.

Angel Ramirez
Angel Ramirez

Bull fucking shit you people do. Anyway I'm still waiting for a season show where I can say something like "the show is kind of good" and not have it be followed by "but" and then followed by a laundry list of misgivings and how it's teetering on a precipice of going to shit fast. Seems a long fucking way off yet

Julian Williams
Julian Williams

I can't trust you, since you talk as a WN user yet you can't confirm me the use of meteas

Because the raws might have mentioned it at one point and explored it into the source material.

A WN reader would had said that with more confidence.

Back on point
Common sense problems
Subaru, to begin with. We also have the flat characters reactions to Subaru antics.
Bring the spoilers
You are beign as vague as those spoilers. If you are gonna argue, bring some concrete counterargument
Generic tropes
Just because you add gimmicks or you force them to say or act in a certain way doesn't makes them deep. They are still puppets. ie.- Rem, who allowed herself to get bitten. Why? Because the plot needs it. We never got information that she likes dogs, we never knew she actually plays with the kids. Nothing. We just have to assume that she likes cute things and because the dog is cute she actually allowed herself to be bitten.

Mason Allen
Mason Allen

They're not shit, they're just not developed yet.

Brody Evans
Brody Evans

Those are still (in theory at least) two very different tropes. Shitty WN authors have been trying to fuse them together recently though.
HP Bars, Status and Inventory Screens along with "Levels"
I-It's a fantasy world, see, the fantasy natives aren't seem weirded out by it!
But that's still not all that applicable to anime because even if you include those, you'd still only get two more anime off the top of my head. Danmachi (which the author tries to explain by saying the Gods are basically RPing a tabletop game on earth for fun because they're bored in Heaven), and possibly Overlord. I say possibly because Overlord doesn't have any of those RPG/MMO screens, but the game spells and such transferred over. If you said just a fiction trope in general (because Westerners have used it plenty of times as well) it'd be applicable, but definitely not an anime trope.

I'm including SAO and Log Horizon.

Caleb Rogers
Caleb Rogers

Flying Witch?

Ayden Ross
Ayden Ross

They gave us fullmetal alchemist and Sailor moon

Evan Morales
Evan Morales

where's mayoiga?

Cooper Long
Cooper Long

That shows designed to have a lot of safety net popular shit and people that is guaranteed to sell to otaku in place so it can literally just kind of do whatever.

Cameron Mitchell
Cameron Mitchell

Except that no actual person would respond to the situation in the way Subaru does. It's clear that the author is lampshading the trope, not taking this as the natural actions of the character. You even said it yourself earlier. Please don't move goalposts.

Ian Price
Ian Price

the fuck is this?
A facebook poll that CR didn't mention in their garbage article.

Dylan Martin
Dylan Martin

Dude, asking a girl's name after getting her trust is not something "clever".
Pretend for a second that he died afterwards and found himself at the first checkpoint. Knowing Emilia's real name allows him to change those initial circumstances greatly.

Metea being forgotten about, but that's actually avoiding a plot hole if anything.
I don't see how [metea being forgotten about] avoids a plot hole. It tears one open
The plot hole is that his phone should eventually run out of batteries. Understand now?

You're sort of just bringing up a generic 'metia' with those ideas, as though they're things that can be casually made, or hanging around the palace. From what I understand they're supposed to be specific and unique items, i.e. extremely rare. Even the loli and merchant in arc 1 didn't seem to have known about them except by rumour.

Andrew Ward
Andrew Ward

He has the favor of a noble, he can get one, or at least ask. And we don't know how much expensive it is since money is never mentioned outside of arc 1

Sebastian White
Sebastian White

My bad
great Web Novel
Better?

drudge through such shit characters just to get suffering about characters we don't even care for.

Except it doesn't and you don't need to. Every character is more than fleshed out not to mention how easily you can come to sympathise with some of them. Thats what alot of anons who read the WN had a gripe about when the anime aired.

There are entire chapters just exploring Subaru's monoluges and thought processes.

Julian Cruz
Julian Cruz

All charapedia are worthless just like biglobes few years ago

Easton Powell
Easton Powell

Oh shit people are going to flip on you. I agree with you completely but still people are going to love you here among the man children

Angel James
Angel James

How he has developed the characters in a way that we grow attached to them
That only work for people that doesn't notice how bad the characters are. I'm sorry, sympathy or "beign the underdog" is not a reason to like a character. It's emotional manipulation from the author. And you see how well that worked for him in the end.

Zachary Fisher
Zachary Fisher

You can always go to a CGDCT with four (4) main girls and yuri-subtext (but not outright yuri because then people have trouble self-inserting) and talk about how comfy it is. That's the closest you're probably going to get.

Jace Jenkins
Jace Jenkins

I don't see how that avoids a plot hole. It tears one open because the author didn't bothered to use the elements of the universe in a natural manner, and instead brought it up to make the negotiations in arc 1 smoother (which by the way, a Metea just so happened to be valued as equally as a really important stone) and then decided to drop it.
I am pretty sure it is brought up later on in the raws, if I can remember it. But his phone I am pretty sure is battery dead.
Akame ga Kill did the shock value thing too. We don't take that one seriously.

Shock value is not what a serious author should seek in death. It is meaning and it's consequence and the handling of such element what's matter. Rem's deaths in arcs 2 and 3 are for purely shock factor, as there is no factual evidence that she should be the one dying, just "mere casuality". Instead, she's the one because she loves the MC, and we want to make the MC suffer so here you go.
I think this part introduced the villains slightly more and their powers. This gave Subaru another goal to keep working towards to try and bring her back, giving some silver lining to the suffering. It has a value equal to something.

Alexander Sullivan
Alexander Sullivan

This thread and some others have made me consider Sup Forums might finally have accepted what a ton show of never ending shitposting it is. Whether it's still entirely 100% okay with that I still don't know yet but acceptance is a good start

Nathaniel Walker
Nathaniel Walker

I know right, this is one of the most unique anime I've seen in a while but people are going full autismo and nitpicking every bit of it.

Daniel Butler
Daniel Butler

It worked well actually, if a sadist can force people to drop a series thay like due to emotional trauma, he is a good auhor.

Kevin Howard
Kevin Howard

the guy that knows you know he knows you know
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like? You've got to be kidding me. I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that?

Mason Moore
Mason Moore

and people still falling to this bait.. you rezero fans are on the same level as those shitty baiters.

Nathan Smith
Nathan Smith

Utena? CCS?

Carter Russell
Carter Russell

Derails better than dubs.

Liam Roberts
Liam Roberts

Wow My Hero is really low, guess it makes sense since it starts with a pretty slow pacing.

Carter Parker
Carter Parker

you mean these dubs?

Gavin Brown
Gavin Brown

Maybe you show stay there if you know this

Evan Morris
Evan Morris

Pretending he died
It's still not genius. It's natural. Again, don't pretend is more than what it is. And let me add something, what would happen if Emilia gets called by an stranger (Subaru after a reset)? How do you really think that would be for the best?

Metia
You are making the same mistake everybody else does when I mentioned Metias. Let me help you. 1.- It's not about the cellphone 2.- It's about how the concept of metias was dropped. I hope you see now what I meant. It didn't closed the "low batteries" plothole, it opened other.
You're sort of just bringing up a generic 'metia' with those ideas
Yes, I am, because they aren't explored further. Rom only mention them, and that's all. No questions from the MC, no other character using them, no drills loli detailing about them, no metia for the MC when he broke his mana gate, nothing, even though he had powerful magic users close to him and a Library, which he can use because he is teached about language. It was a plot device.

Connor Brown
Connor Brown

Because genrally well liked things become generally hated things for the sole reason that they are generally well liked.

Colton Lopez
Colton Lopez

in american:
1) kabaneri
2) macross delta
3) re: zero

everything else is tied for being shit

Andrew Evans
Andrew Evans

can come to sympathise with some of them
I can't sympathize with puppets, because I know the cheap tricks the author uses to try to manipulate my feelings. It seems to work with you, however.

Adrian Stewart
Adrian Stewart

this thread seems lost or something

Caleb Clark
Caleb Clark

What kind of cheap tricks exactly?

Eli Baker
Eli Baker

Meaningless polls. Why are you getting worked up about it?

Liam Sanchez
Liam Sanchez

drop a series thay like due to emotional trauma,
The dropped it because the ln and the wn started to lack common sense. Don't make things up.

If somebody does shock factor really well, he's a good author
You know nothing about good authors.

Grayson Long
Grayson Long

I'm really glad I didn't do much English or Literature in school, it really ruins people's enjoyment of 90% of media.

Jason Davis
Jason Davis

what would happen if Emilia gets called by an stranger (Subaru after a reset)? How do you really think that would be for the best?
He can get her attention for long enough to warn her not to get her insignia stolen. He can manufacture some reason for knowing her name. Maybe he can pretend he was in league with that thief but has now defected.

There's a whole plethora of new options available to him with that knowledge, and a much greater change to completely alter the events which occur.

It's about how the 'concept' of metias was dropped
Ahh, gotcha.

Nathan Wright
Nathan Wright

berserk?

Brayden Reyes
Brayden Reyes

Just because its placed low does not mean it not popular. Being in top 20 is already a privilage

Jaxson Foster
Jaxson Foster

Lost village

Chase Turner
Chase Turner

He misses 4 days of people he just met
BIG WOOP

Easton Lee
Easton Lee

The dropped it because the ln and the wn started to lack common sense.
This is incorrect. Where are you getting this from?

Wyatt Hernandez
Wyatt Hernandez

Don't make things up

I honestly am not. You can even look into the threads of 2013 Naoru if you can read moon and if they're still there.

You know nothing about good authors.

Alright, show me what you got then.

Mason Bell
Mason Bell

2) macross delta
Nope. Lack of official subs already puts it in the bottom of the list

Owen Gonzalez
Owen Gonzalez

t. autism pro

Kayden Jackson
Kayden Jackson

For a depressant who made friends for the first time, its a big deal.

Eli Bailey
Eli Bailey

I heard it was weeks, unless I am thinking of when he shut himself in the room or I mixed up days with weeks.

Brandon Jackson
Brandon Jackson

Arbitrary deaths, random save points, killing off "beloved characters" because that would make the MC suffer, lack of common sense that leads to bad decisions, plot conveniences that lead to moments that plea sympathy from the viewers, and that's all I care to share.

Ln reviews from arc 4

Aaron King
Aaron King

It's weird how people are hating on My Hero for being generic but they eat up stuff like RE:Zero and Kabaneri, I do agree My Hero is generic but it just baffles me.

Dominic Richardson
Dominic Richardson

re:zero is generic?

name one anime that's similar

Logan Flores
Logan Flores

I'm really glad I didn't do much English or Literature in school, it really ruins people's enjoyment of 90% of media.
Former lit student here. I'm still able to enjoy media. What's ruining people's enjoyment of media is really their own refusal to at least try to immerse themselves in the story of any given new series instead of pretending to be a critic 24/7.

John Scott
John Scott

Re:Zero is a mmo anime isn't it

James Thompson
James Thompson

Re:Zero itsn't at all generic. That's the reason why its so popular. Its anti-wishfufilling, its anti-self insert and doesn't have an OP MC, it has an underpowered one. How is it in any way the same compared to other anime, WN or LN?

Asher Wilson
Asher Wilson

arc 4
Volume 4. Did you read it in google translate? Because you may have gotten mislead by what the reviewers said.

Luke Edwards
Luke Edwards

Don't call it generic if you haven't even read the synopsis you fucking dreg.

Joseph Miller
Joseph Miller

The problem is that you get used to analyze and nitpick everything you can. That's not how you enjoy the media. These morons are used to contrived writing that's basically a puzzle when most things don't give a shit about literary value and are just about the anecdote. I pity litfags, they watch a show and try to make a puzzle out of thin air.

Mason Sanders
Mason Sanders

This is the shit we deal with. Every day.

No it is not. For fucks sakes people, where are you getting this information from?

Oliver Anderson
Oliver Anderson

Ahh I see my bad, I was just making dumb assumptions from what I've seen, I might check it out.

Samuel Wright
Samuel Wright

I think Hero Academia deserves first place more than Kabaneri, but whatever.
Japs always had shit taste in anime.

Easton Powell
Easton Powell

For a depressant who made friends for the first time
No it isn't. My biggest problem with Re:zero is how the MC apparently loves this people he just met, is this good at communication when he was a Neet, and is so happy when he is barely comfortable with the new world.

Brayden Cook
Brayden Cook

This was only surveyed from 10,000 people so this isn't set in stone,

Jacob Edwards
Jacob Edwards

Just days. This entire arc is far too dramatic.

Isaac Torres
Isaac Torres

He can get her attention for long enough to warn her not to get her insignia stolen
Implying that Emilia wouldn't be creeped out about a stranger knowing his name
He can manufacture some reason for knowing her name
I doubt a character with lack of common sense, especially on that stage of the story, would come up with a credible one.
Maybe he can pretend he was in league with that thief but has now defected.
The less reason to believe him, since trying to get the sympathy of others should get people wary. But this one might work, given Emilia's naivety.

There's a whole plethora of new options available to him with that knowledge, and a much greater change to completely alter the events which occur.
But that's still not a reason to praise him for asking a name. Is relevant info that could alter the way things happen, yes, but why praise him for that when he didn't asked for reading lessons, for example.

This is also a personal opinion, not really something to debate, but I believe Re:Zero author is doing things in an uninteresting way. Most of the time is a linear path, like if it were predestined to happen in the same way always, as if it were a videogame. Take for example the 3 times he met with the same 3 guys on an alley.

Lucas Cook
Lucas Cook

No they didn't. They said they couldn't take how heart wrenching it was so the sales got hit.

Noah Brooks
Noah Brooks

so happy when he is barely comfortable with the new world.

He is in a fantasy world so why would he not be excited? He able to start a new life for himself.

good at communication when he was a Neet

He was a NEET by choice becuase of his dad not by circumstance.

MC apparently loves this people he just met

He likes to cling onto things that make him feel less numb inside. Or to anyone that shows him a hint of kindness, not to mention he finds joy in helping people.

Asher Sanchez
Asher Sanchez

No. Somebody did the courtesy of traducing it and I read it.

James Rivera
James Rivera

good at communication
You mean like how he spouts nipponese internet memes?

Jonathan Wood
Jonathan Wood

Emilia wouldn't be creeped out by a stranger knowing her name because she and Puck both didn't give two shits when Subaru mysteriously knew Puck's name.

Liam Martin
Liam Martin

The MC is generic, with the "funny quotes" gimmick and the fact he is underpowered this time around.

Owen Butler
Owen Butler

They do the same in arguments too where they just list off logical fallacies and meme terms instead of actually replying.

Jace Price
Jace Price

He actually used a different route in the alleyway but the bandits kept blocking him off. He could use a different route that didn't involve the alleyway but that was the shortest way to the slums as we saw.

Grayson Baker
Grayson Baker

I don't think you know what generic means.

Nolan Davis
Nolan Davis

you are one ignorant faggot, but looking at your post, its obvious that you are doing this on purpose.

Parker Morris
Parker Morris

Every fiction seems like wish fulfillment for you normalfags.

Charles Brown
Charles Brown

He is in a fantasy world so why would he not be excited?
Because when you are as fucked as he is it gets boring fast?

Grayson Cooper
Grayson Cooper

He was a NEET by choice becuase of his dad not by circumstance.
No way, really?

Nathaniel Long
Nathaniel Long

good at communication

But he isn't. He pisses alot of people off due to his lack of communication skills. Remember when he pissed off Beatrice?

Carter Ross
Carter Ross

Re:Zero itsn't at all generic. That's the reason why its so popular. Its anti-wishfufilling, its anti-self insert and doesn't have an OP MC, it has an underpowered one.
That doesn't means is good, by the way. Quite the contrary, the author forgets he has to present a story and instead throws random things in order to bring the maximum torture possible.

Chase Peterson
Chase Peterson

look at me mom , im so smart everyone should listen to my vast knowledge of nothing

Jaxson Phillips
Jaxson Phillips

Most of the time is a linear path, like if it were predestined to happen in the same way always, as if it were a videogame. Take for example the 3 times he met with the same 3 guys on an alley.
I'm actually a little disappointed that this wasn't intentional. Re:Zero could have thematically been an exploration of someone stuck as a character in a video game (as opposed to a player), with certain major decisions being made for him, and unable to control where the 'player' saves and loads. I thought that was what it was going for, but apparently I'm reading too much into those details and they were mostly coincidental.

Dominic Young
Dominic Young

we are getting this shits because you guys keep responding to obvious bait.. jesus f christ.

Easton White
Easton White

the author forgets he has to present a story and instead throws random things in order to bring the maximum torture possible.

But he doesn't, almost everything up until now has been used to propell the narrative and plot forwards.

Ryan Jenkins
Ryan Jenkins

Not wanting to get fucked up by Beatrice
Eh no, his communication there was on point for the best outcome.

Aaron Ross
Aaron Ross

Piss off the token loli who is cold on the outside but warm in reality
How's that a good example?

Zachary Mitchell
Zachary Mitchell

How do you know it's the shortest route? We jump from the apple guy stand to the slums, and he just so happen to find the guys on another random alley, as if they were tailing him

Joshua Parker
Joshua Parker

Its a good example as it enforces that he has shit communication skills. Antoher one is also when he encroaches upon sensitive topics without him noticing.

Austin Powell
Austin Powell

That's what happens when you turn entertainment into your livelihood. You eventually get pissed at how everyone sees something as just for fun when you take it seriously and become a smug cunt about it. That's how you get people arguing that something being good because it's fun is not an arguement. ENTERTAINMENT being fun is all it needs for it to be good.

Jace Smith
Jace Smith

used to propell the narrative and plot forwards.
As in plot devices, asspulls and lame characterizations? Yeah, I agree.

I will agree on that one.

Thomas Gray
Thomas Gray

Well, it was the only route we knew and the only route Subaru knew from what we saw. Felt would not have ran into the alleyway if it was not going to the slums. And the apple guy's stand was in a bazaar.

Jaxson James
Jaxson James

I kind of agree but I consider stuff like that guilty pleasures, I wouldn't even try to defend my enjoyment of them.

Julian Russell
Julian Russell

Yes really.

Gabriel Miller
Gabriel Miller

Well, it was the only route we knew and the only route Subaru knew from what we saw
That doesn' means it is the route to the slums
Felt would not have ran into the alleyway if it was not going to the slums
She can jump on buildings. She could also use run on a different route for misdirection purposes.
And the apple guy's stand was in a bazaar.
We still don't know the route to the slums with this info.

Caleb Wright
Caleb Wright

This guy is maximum self insert then.

Parker Allen
Parker Allen

For you.

Dylan Watson
Dylan Watson

thread about poll of animes
re:zero is in top 3

shit posters vs fanbase is inevitable i guess?

why dont you guys shitpost about kabaneri instead? fuck now i know which show is better.

re zero obviously you cucks.

Nolan Bennett
Nolan Bennett

Well, yeah. something being fun means it fits your psychological needs but beyond the subjective it becomes hard to defend.

Luke Morales
Luke Morales

Inevitable? Its already happening.

Oliver Davis
Oliver Davis

Where you were this entire time, user?

John Gomez
John Gomez

Makes an argument entirely based on popularity
SAO was also popular, retard. At least defend your show with good arguments.

Shits on Kabaneri
People at Kabaneri already accepted the show is shit. Fanboys from Re:Zero can't tolerate his show beign criticized and exposed as the shit it is.

Charles Long
Charles Long

Autismally nitpicking a few faults doesn't make it shit.

Mason Adams
Mason Adams

Don't worry user, you can still enjoy a show even though it's shit. Just ignore the obvious problems.

Daniel Kelly
Daniel Kelly

plot devices, asspulls and lame characterizations

But it has none of those, it feels like you're just cycling those wods for the sake of riling up more anons.

Charles Long
Charles Long

Which are?

Nathan James
Nathan James

Go read the thread, I've already stated those points.

Levi Cook
Levi Cook

Don't give him any ideas, he's just going to plagiarize the same argument over and over.

Easton Gonzalez
Easton Gonzalez

And we gave you our points but you disagreed, and you gave your points and we disagreed. See how we are at a stalemate?

Austin Hernandez
Austin Hernandez

Fanboys from Re:Zero can't tolerate his show beign criticized
'Fanboy' of Re:Zero here. It's nothing to do with 'can't tolerate'. It's that I want to reassure other people who've become too jaded by their bad experience with SAO to even want to give Re:Zero a chance, that Re:Zero is a series which won't let them down in the way that SAO did. It's staying true to its premise and isn't going to simply turn into a bland harem.

Aaron Fisher
Aaron Fisher

this entire thread

Oliver Campbell
Oliver Campbell

Popularity poll
http://yusaani.com/topics/2016/04/30/313454/

Jace Diaz
Jace Diaz

Emilia
That high
Rem not even on the list

Not for long.

Alexander Fisher
Alexander Fisher

macross is ded

Joshua Sanders
Joshua Sanders

rape bait number 8
Chidori nowhere to be seen
Poor effort.

Good choice for 1 though.

Liam Garcia
Liam Garcia

implying its a character popularity vote

Blake Rogers
Blake Rogers

My bad, I didn't read.

Elijah Jones
Elijah Jones

Rem a shit.

James Allen
James Allen

Take that back

Christopher Gomez
Christopher Gomez

You're right, it's going to turn into suffering shit.

Jayden Flores
Jayden Flores

Implying thats bad

At least people realize that the series is suffering and not edgy, for one I am happy about this development.

Cooper Adams
Cooper Adams

Suffering with shit characters is utterly useless, as is suffering for suffering's sake, which is what this looks like.

Mason Ortiz
Mason Ortiz

Sansha Sanyou doesn't even make it

Michael Lopez
Michael Lopez

There are entire chapters to rebuttal your arguement.

http://ncode.syosetu.com/n2267be/

I'm too damn tired to put up with more of this shit right now. Just please formulate your opinion on this instead.

Carson Gonzalez
Carson Gonzalez

Expecting me to read a fucking web novel
No thanks fampai, I'd honestly rather just gouge my eyes out.

David Smith
David Smith

Then how in god name did you formulate your opinion without knowing the material first? Are you just pissing in the wind?

Landon Baker
Landon Baker

Based on the endless spoilers people have been posting and the show.

Juan Reyes
Juan Reyes

The whole entire arguments he made throughout the thread is invalid due to not fully reading the source material, he's just basing off everything from the spoilers and anime. That is why his credibility is too low to even be considered a reviewer.

Jason Perry
Jason Perry

Because spoilers shows the full spectrum of character development and interactions. Little tidbits aren't enough to show you shit user. They are tidbits and nothing else.

Justin Baker
Justin Baker

I highly doubt any amount of development would make me like these generic characters.

I honestly don't care in the slightest about credibility. I don't really give a shit about the web novel either, I really only care about the anime, which has been pretty lackluster so far.

Ian Cooper
Ian Cooper

That's where the line between actually fully understanding the whole novel comes to conflict for you, now all your statements that you perceive as problems are null and void because you have not experienced the source material.

Caleb Howard
Caleb Howard

I don't care about the source material. This is not /lit/ or /jp/. If you want to discuss web novels you should do so there.
I'm not talking about problems with the web novel, I'm talking about problems with the anime. So no, my problems are not null and void.

Easton Lewis
Easton Lewis

I highly doubt any amount of development would make me like these generic characters
Someone. Anyone. Help this poor, ignorant user.

Matthew Nelson
Matthew Nelson

Not him, but I can also agree with you on that. The anime has made a poor adaptation which has made it lackluster. But that's strictly for the anime.

But I was assuming you were shitting on the series as a whole, if you were, I would completely disagree with you on that field.

Carter Cook
Carter Cook

I mean, I won't shit on the novel because I haven't read it, but from what I've seen of the show I can't imagine it's anything special.

Thomas Rogers
Thomas Rogers

No you have not, you made problems against the series itself without any full prior experience of the full series, this preaching all of these points you believe are contradictory; when in reality, you have no ability to say such things with the way you are right now.

Sebastian Sanchez
Sebastian Sanchez

Fuck off ESL-kun, I never thought anything was contradictory, it's just shit.

Dylan Barnes
Dylan Barnes

It skipped enormous chunks of interactions and developments which made the characters and the series vibrant in the first place. Like there is an entire chapter about him reflecting upon his four deaths and explaining his thought processes before opening the door to betty's room. They also missed out upon the bickering between the maids and lost upon important foreshadowing. Even the manga adapted that well, but they fucked up that scence in the anime, which was the potato cutting scene. So many things were left behind for the sake of pacing it wasn't even funny.

Luke Lopez
Luke Lopez

They also forgot to add as to why the four days he spent with them was so significant in the first place.

Camden Hughes
Camden Hughes

They improved on the fifth episode, they brought back some of that development into the latest one. It would have been too awkward if that was put into play. The director is doing better than episode 4 with episode 5.

Gavin Bell
Gavin Bell

I also agree, they did quite a timeskip when it came to this.

Colton Harris
Colton Harris

I hope he improves enormously before the third arc hits, I am extremely worried that he won't be able to pull off the end of the second arc and the third arc well enough.

Jackson Martinez
Jackson Martinez

I feel like it was unfortunately a necessary thing to do for the sake of pacing. It would have felt like a cop-out if we needed to wait all the way to episode 5 to first learn that save points could move.

Nicholas Ortiz
Nicholas Ortiz

They might put the importance of how he felt about the time he spent the next episode. It would be too awkward if that were to repeat and based on time-constraints, we might be still looking at a decent adaptation by the next episode. It depends.

Brody Butler
Brody Butler

I hope that the director will stick more closely to the source material once he jumps off the cliff as it will honestly be for me, a make it or break it for the series. But its a new director so you never know.

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