As far as illustration goes, is Prison School the best display of raw talent? I...

Brody Diaz
Brody Diaz

As far as illustration goes, is Prison School the best display of raw talent? I mean, who is even coming close to this level of skill?

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Nolan Brown
Nolan Brown

raw photoshop talent maybe

pic related
Hand drawn manga masterpiece

Brandon Johnson
Brandon Johnson

This is an incoherent mess though.

Dominic Wright
Dominic Wright

The air gear author always impressed me with his shit

Aiden Sanders
Aiden Sanders

Hamada Yoshikazu

Robert Wilson
Robert Wilson

Drawing was great
Story was BSd

Carson Diaz
Carson Diaz

read more manga.

Josiah Morris
Josiah Morris

this.

Luke Campbell
Luke Campbell

Gon
Incoherent mess
For fucks sake user a 8 year old deaf dumb Ugandan child could follow the series, it has no dialogue.

Jaxon Hill
Jaxon Hill

True display of skill

Gavin Adams
Gavin Adams

Gon is great, but unless I'm retarded and missing something, shouldn't the sand only bulge like that in front of the ostrich, not Gon's foot?

Anthony Cox
Anthony Cox

Yamamoto's art is honestly ugly as fuck.

Nathaniel Campbell
Nathaniel Campbell

Sauce?

Eli Murphy
Eli Murphy

Talent coming through

Brandon Rivera
Brandon Rivera

Posted all the time

Oliver Scott
Oliver Scott

In some respects I agree. I still think it's pretty fantastic. Felt appropriate for this story at least.

Aaron Edwards
Aaron Edwards

I would say Me and the Devil Blues has the best art. Same author as Prison School, actually.

Carson Harris
Carson Harris

The absolute madwoman.

Michael Roberts
Michael Roberts

I used to think that too but with the latest chapters, I doubt it. Hiramoto has gone sloppy

Julian Harris
Julian Harris

Here's the "I've been reading manga for like 6 months and these are the best artists" list.

Hiroaki Samura
Takehiko Inoue
Shinichi Sakamoto
Akira Hiramoto
Masashi Tanaka

Blake Miller
Blake Miller

I liked Eyeshield 21 artist

Leo Martin
Leo Martin

I think he'd get more snob love if his style wasn't generic anime face #329.

Colton Foster
Colton Foster

he should just draws, let someone else handles the story

Michael Butler
Michael Butler

Yas' gundam the origin art is pretty good, so is the art for feddie hooligans

David Howard
David Howard

Weekly

Evan Campbell
Evan Campbell

Sakamoto employs the population of an entire chinese province as assistants.

Dominic Robinson
Dominic Robinson

talentless/tasteless plebs valuing hyper-realism so highly

Honestly mangaka like ono are much better

Wyatt Moore
Wyatt Moore

Wow, that is good.

Lucas Morales
Lucas Morales

OK well who do you think is a good manga drawer then

Jackson Taylor
Jackson Taylor

worth it

I like Taiyou Matsumoto's work in Takemitsu Zamurai

Justin Anderson
Justin Anderson

I literally listed one in my post.

I can absolutely agree with you. Interesting/unique > autistic hyper realism

Caleb Flores
Caleb Flores

I thought you were being post ironic

Thomas Fisher
Thomas Fisher

Do you really not value series like five leaves' art style?

Blake Perez
Blake Perez

I mean it's great that you're a fan of that art but come on now

Landon Martinez
Landon Martinez

is that george washington to the left?

Dylan Phillips
Dylan Phillips

Nah its a bunch of Frenchmen

Sakamoto went full eyebrows a little too much

Luis White
Luis White

Hyper realism is normally the first step before learning to abstract it.

Tyler Murphy
Tyler Murphy

When's the next chapter due? Last I saw, there was a break for a couple of weeks.

Joshua Brooks
Joshua Brooks

Honestly his work in Ore to Akuma no Blues is a lot better, prison school is meh.

Easton Jackson
Easton Jackson

Check Ryuuroden for some mad combination of tone and ink crosshatch shadings

Colton Mitchell
Colton Mitchell

What's outstanding about Natsume Ono's art? Her face designs are a bit unique but aside from that it's pretty generic imo.

Surprised nobody has said Tsutomu Nihei yet.

Austin Anderson
Austin Anderson

nah

Levi Jenkins
Levi Jenkins

Why are you posting a photoshop filtered picture?

Austin Richardson
Austin Richardson

Too lazy to find a better one right now. Inio asano is probably one of the better examples of raw talent next to the guy who does the vagabond manga though.

Lucas Robinson
Lucas Robinson

Oh, yes, Mr. Trace-Photographs

Angel Diaz
Angel Diaz

If by raw talent you mean photoshop filter talent then sure.

Charles Edwards
Charles Edwards

He's doing that for his current series, Biorg Trinity. It isn't working.

Mason Clark
Mason Clark

This manga documentary series covered him. It's pretty amazing how he composes his pages. But yeah, it seems to boil down to "photograph, filter, add detail/shading, insert characters."
Work smarter. Not harder.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3b4f2x

Jeremiah Lewis
Jeremiah Lewis

How to read this manga without buying it?

Carter Hill
Carter Hill

Yabuki

Michael Cruz
Michael Cruz

"We've pretty much resolved what little conflict we had, what do we do with the sadistic brown loli shapeshifter now?"
"Fuse her to the main character"
God bless Japan

Angel Bell
Angel Bell

I have no delusions about his talent relative to the industry as a whole, but Hiroyama's stuff is pretty damn impressive compared to the shitty work he started with.

Wyatt Baker
Wyatt Baker

He should have reiterated

Let someone GOOD write

I'd enjoy this guy drawing hxh since togashi is a lazy sack of shit

Gavin Sullivan
Gavin Sullivan

Nah, Togashi was legit sick rather than lazy and as much as I want more HxH I wouldn't trust it with another mangaka. I'm really partial to Togashi's style and panelling.

Dominic Price
Dominic Price

I just picked this up, it's stunning. And I expected suffering but holy fuck this is hurting me more than anticipated.

Jayden Gomez
Jayden Gomez

I really like Yuichi Yokoyama style, his paneling and use perspective is great,

Alexander King
Alexander King

telling anyone to pick up ryuurouden
I mean, I like it and all (though I'd like it more if Masumi would get god damn rescued already) but we're like three hundred chapters behind, scanlations are dead, and it's still fucking going. There's almost no chance anyone who picks it up now will ever see the whole thing in English.

Thomas Baker
Thomas Baker

Who's the Japanese Mike Mignola?

Tyler Baker
Tyler Baker

It's definitely not the best, but I just wanted to give a little mention to the artist of Crows/Worst.

His art really improved a lot since the start of the manga.

Ryder Kelly
Ryder Kelly

No Abe Youichi fans?

Grayson Gomez
Grayson Gomez

Who is the mest horror mangaka

Ethan Cooper
Ethan Cooper

source plz, this is not a meme thread :D

Luis Moore
Luis Moore

found it nvm

Sebastian Roberts
Sebastian Roberts

Joe's Adventure has some pretty good pages

William Phillips
William Phillips

Killer queen
Is this real?, is it his stand?

Eli Miller
Eli Miller

Objectively the best manga artist when it comes to raw detail.

Tyler Nguyen
Tyler Nguyen

jesus, i love his artstyle so fucking much

Connor Adams
Connor Adams

"Look at this detail!"
Can't see jack
Post other pic m8

Jacob Lopez
Jacob Lopez

Sorry for spoiling, senpai.
You better go catch up with the latest chapter.

Joseph Scott
Joseph Scott

it's kira not gappy
we knew this from one of the first chapters

Dominic King
Dominic King

That's exactly what makes it good, idiot. Peasant manga artists like the ones you love would add artificial light to panels that should be close to pitch black.

Ethan Lewis
Ethan Lewis

Then show me the way, and post more.

Nathaniel Evans
Nathaniel Evans

I could post a full gallery, but there's no real point for peasants like yourself, who will never truly appreciate great art.

Jeremiah Edwards
Jeremiah Edwards

I think we all know the answer to that question, OP.

Logan Evans
Logan Evans

How do I git gud at drawing?

I have a big story in the works that you might even hear (or shitpost) about someday, but I'm gonna have to commission some artfag mimicking my style to draw the book for me because it takes me 10 fucking hours to draw one page of panels JUST right, and after it's all said and done I still think it could be better.

What do?

James Morgan
James Morgan

Practice, you'll be faster and faster.

John King
John King

everytime

Robert James
Robert James

Art thread
No Nihei
You all disappoint me.

Brandon White
Brandon White

this seems super interesting, where did you find it? i'd be interested in downloading it.

Tyler Perez
Tyler Perez

I am skimming through Innocent, is it simply torture porn?

Jace Gomez
Jace Gomez

Kentaro Miura

Bentley Gonzalez
Bentley Gonzalez

10 hours for one page is normal dude

Jonathan Lopez
Jonathan Lopez

start drawing more right now

Julian Baker
Julian Baker

No, it's a lot of homolust and repressed angst, with occasional torture porn.

Luis Gray
Luis Gray

10 hours for one page is normal
Really? I feel like I'm inefficient as fuck and I get tunnel vision BAD. I'm on my second draft so it is easier, but I feel like I should be getting this done quicker.

I will start drawing right now. A new character is about to enter the story so I'll prolly get the design just right after I fold all these fucking towels. I work overnight (where I do most of my work on the book)

And while we're on the subject, let me pick your brains for a second. How do you fags feel about dinosaurs in a quasi-serious tone?

Juan Butler
Juan Butler

it takes me 10 fucking hours to draw one page of panels JUST right, and after it's all said and done I still think it could be better.

Keep in mind that the projects you finish in life are more important than the projects you start. Heard this quote a while back.Think about the time and effort you're spending on just a single page when there are people who have entire volumes of work completed already. Is it really worth it? Do you want to hang art in a museum or create manga?

Caleb Moore
Caleb Moore

Do you guys download or watch in-browser, i can hardly find any download links to most of the obscure ones in this thread.

Dylan Sanders
Dylan Sanders

Is it really worth it?
Yes because this might honestly make me a fuckload of money. I know fags always think their story is good, but I honestly think I have something here. I've been working on it for 10 years (the story and characters anyway, but I only just started my first draft two years ago and just began working on the second).

David Lee
David Lee

pitch me the story please

Jaxson Sullivan
Jaxson Sullivan

raw photoshop talent maybe
Have you ever tried to compare drawing physically and digitally? "Photoshop talent" has nothing to do with being able to draw well, like Akira Hiramoto

Bentley Collins
Bentley Collins

I go through too much manga too quickly to warrant downloading them all.

The only ones I download are the real special ones like Berserk or Kokou no Hito

John Perry
John Perry

I was more referencing you comment about still thinking your efforts need more work even after you're done. It's important to force yourself to move on to the next step and not get stuck in the minute details that will keep you from finishing. I wish I told myself this years ago when I was beginning to write.

William Martin
William Martin

Douman Seiman.

My personal fave has got to be Jiro Matsumoto.

Ryder Bennett
Ryder Bennett

nevermind this shit manga OP holy fuck me and the devil blues just got updated, why arent there any thread on it

Nolan Bailey
Nolan Bailey

I really can't for two reasons.

1. it's not so much about the story as it is the characters
2. I don't wanna leak my ideas anywhere so I don't get Jewed

I guess I could tell you a bit about the main character without revealing too many details.

orphan who grew up on the streets
hates humanity
crisis happens that threatens the world
governments and boarders across the globe collapse
MC basically journeys across the world
meeting people
some good, most evil
slowly discovers that humanity is not all bad and that despite the overwhelming amount of human slime, humanity still might be redeemable based on the actions of the few good
Time travel is involved in this story, or I guess you could say it's the motif, so wish me luck. It's been a pain in the fucking ass tying everything together to make sense. That's been half the battle.

Oh, I understand. Thanks mate.

Brayden Gutierrez
Brayden Gutierrez

Top 3 artists imo are Hiroe Rei, Takihiko Inoue, and Akira Toriyama. They all have such distinct styles.

I really wanted to add Miura but his anatomy is inconsistent.

Jaxon Martinez
Jaxon Martinez

sounds deep

Jayden Myers
Jayden Myers

Yeah, kind of. The endgame of the whole thing is my favorite part, as you basically find out about existence and reality. Lots of Schrodinger's Cat type stuff.

That being said, it's also heavily action-oriented. Through most of the story, it's mostly about the MC and his journeys with action sprinkled about, so there's plenty of substance and when action happens, it's satisfying as fuck for the buildup, at least I think so.

Ian Diaz
Ian Diaz

Kumeta, Takehiko Inoue.
Mind you, they have style, Prison School's only "quality" comes from up-close full-page illustrations that get a little bit more work than usual. They all look shiny as fuck, it's like the people are made out of plastic.

Xavier Butler
Xavier Butler

Me and the Devil Blues doesn't really have that problem.

Tyler Young
Tyler Young

That one's still on the backlog for me, but I heard it's really well drawn.

Caleb Robinson
Caleb Robinson

Itoh yu

Alexander Perry
Alexander Perry

shiny
how can a drawing be shiny?
plastic
plastic doesn't shine

Joshua Morris
Joshua Morris

kumeta is a meme

Noah Parker
Noah Parker

how can a drawing be shiny?
When the artist goes ham on the screentones/shading.
Alternatively, when they draw those gossy "spots" all over a characters skin.

Samuel White
Samuel White

Actually, many many japanese artists start off copying popular artists/artists they like, and many don't really learn how to draw "realistic" (which is to say, not highly deformed) before developing their own style. You also see this with western artists like the ones that infest tumblr and deviantart.

Not disparaging the artists that do it well, but I feel I should point out that it's not uncommon for artists to try to skip the "hyper-realism" phase of learning, and are sometimes successful.

Nolan Ward
Nolan Ward

Masuiso Captain.

Owen Ramirez
Owen Ramirez

who is even coming close to this level of skill

Cameron Carter
Cameron Carter

But that looks awful.

Logan Brooks
Logan Brooks

It looks ok, but wasn't there a time where the manga looked really shitty, like, "kubo got Parkinson" tier shitty?.

Matthew Brown
Matthew Brown

What the fuck is this?

William Young
William Young

Already posted itt m8

Dylan Sanchez
Dylan Sanchez

Joe's Adventure has some pretty good pages
And that's not one of them.

Ayden Rivera
Ayden Rivera

Ok now you are being obvious

Samuel Harris
Samuel Harris

quit posting this crap, it's not well drawn and the lines are cringey as fuck, I don't see any purpose for even having saved these

Henry Ortiz
Henry Ortiz

I think it got really bad near the end.

Everyone's scrawny and the noses are awful. They look like junkies

Isaiah Gray
Isaiah Gray

Eww, that shit looks awful.

Eli Wood
Eli Wood

what even is this, is that Naruto in the bottom left? Jesus Christ

Camden Brown
Camden Brown

This is webcomic tier art.

Jonathan Reyes
Jonathan Reyes

I don't know how it's possible after how bad the series already got by its end, but they've managed to create an affront to Naruto.

Adam Martin
Adam Martin

it takes me 10 fucking hours to draw one page of panels JUST right
The trick is to not worry about getting it "just right". You're never gonna manage that and still keep up a decent release schedule. You have to learn to cut the shit when it's due, not when it's ready.

10 hours for one page is normal dude
Sure, if you're not riding up on a deadline and it's an important spread with lots of panels/details. Otherwise 10 hours is a gross misuse of time.

t. working (though relatively novice) comic author as of 2 years.

Cooper Reed
Cooper Reed

10 hours is a gross misuse of time

Zachary Edwards
Zachary Edwards

this. Araki is the current absolute master now that Mizuki is die

Leo Russell
Leo Russell

High polish plastic gives off a characteristic reflection together with a shine. You can tell what's plastic from those two. If you have a laptop you can probably see what I'm talking about. Although to be fair Prison School looks glossier, almost like a photograph.

Try harder.

Chase Carter
Chase Carter

Not him, but depending on a release schedule that seems like it could be true. I mean, if that were a typical weekly manga, you literally don't have ten hours in a week for every page.

Aiden Ramirez
Aiden Ramirez

Right, that makes sense.

Blake Reyes
Blake Reyes

Jojo without the aesthetics would be pretty awful m8. While I like jojo, the anatomy and detail aren't exactly the manga strongest points, so I wouldn't say that araki is the best

Christian Bailey
Christian Bailey

>>141201995
bravo

Jaxon Wright
Jaxon Wright

Yeah, sorry, I forgot to post with the pic.

Joshua Harris
Joshua Harris

Think of it like this:
Say you have 100 chapters to draw. Each chapter is on average, we'll say 16 pages long, at a release rate of 1 chapter a week like in a weekly magazine. 1600 pages to draw, which will take 667 days to draw if you take 10 hours a page.
Now consider how long your story is. If you've been deliberating so much, I'll bet you had more than 100 chapters in mind. Perhaps more than 1000. Realistically, you could die of old age before you finish your comic.

As someone who's working his way through making his own extremely long comic, I've had to think about this issue too. It would be nice to be able to make it perfect through drawing it and redrawing it until it looks perfect, but doing that will just result in you dying before you can finish the work at all. You need to learn to either get it perfect the first time or not at all.

Josiah Anderson
Josiah Anderson

Is it me or Sup Forums is really slow today?

Isaac Brown
Isaac Brown

The more immediate problem there would be what mentioned - sixteen pages a week at ten hours a page gives you a grand total of eight hours a week where you aren't drawing.

Brody Jenkins
Brody Jenkins

You need to learn to either get it perfect the first time or not at all.
Shit nigger.

That being said, the story I'm working on has 3 arcs, so probably 3 books for each arc. Each book would probably be 500 or so pages.

If I ever do get this published though, I wouldn't be surprised if they had me add a shitton of filler so they could sell more than 3 books.

Jacob Anderson
Jacob Anderson

Yes, that too.

Caleb Turner
Caleb Turner

the image you posted literally has the characters cropped terribly to make them look wider, you can't exactly blame araki's proportions on that

Brandon Taylor
Brandon Taylor

Don't forget Toriyama.

Tyler Jones
Tyler Jones

That being said, the story I'm working on has 3 arcs, so probably 3 books for each arc. Each book would probably be 500 or so pages.
Oh, if that's the case then by all means be a perfectionist, provided you don't have much plans for your career afterwards. I'm speaking purely from a shounen jump chapter-a-week-every-week-for-years mindset. If you were aiming for more of a western indie comic kind of method then you're fine doing what you were doing.

Blake Perry
Blake Perry

That manga about mountain climbing had stellar art.

Noah Myers
Noah Myers

Wouldn't how much time you spent a week not make a difference to how long it would take to finish? I mean, you're on a weekly schedule, so regardless of your work time, the published story progresses at the same rate.

Kayden Gomez
Kayden Gomez

I dunno, I guess we'll see.

What do you have to show to a publisher to get a story published? Like, the first couple of chapters and a plot pitch? I was thinking of bringing them a final product and having them take a look, then maybe collaborate with an editor and mass-market the thing. Is that how it would work? How would "auditioning" for Shonen Jump work? I'd stake my soul that my story is 100x better than 85+% of the crap SJ has had over the years.

Charles Harris
Charles Harris

WSJ is aiming for a broad audience including a lot of middle-school boys, obviously they aren't going to be publishing the best shit.

Levi Richardson
Levi Richardson

Jojo without the aesthetics
it would be a fucking blank page, your right !
anatomy
If you want realism, got read a fuckng movie.
detail
are you blind or do you only like fucking dot art like every goddman shonen artist does. go read Punpun or something

this indeed, Toriyama is insane

Cameron Flores
Cameron Flores

He's a great mecha drawer.

Charles Davis
Charles Davis

Yeah. That being said, I totally wouldn't mind being lumped in with all that shit, as #1 it would stand out and #2 it would get a lot of attention in such a popular magazine.

Aiden Campbell
Aiden Campbell

It does if you miss weeks because you didn't finish the chapter in time. Plus you can use extra time to work ahead of schedule. You could finish the comic before the last arc is even released if you're diligent and don't get lazy/dont have a social life.

What do you have to show to a publisher to get a story published?
Can't help you there, I'm self-published webcomic grade. But judging from what I've learned being a fan of manga, the pocess seems to work by basically pitching your comic and delivering a one shot sort of prototype version to deliver the premise and tone, and the editor decides whether you're worth the spot in the magazine. I'm not an expert from the industry or anything, just speaking from my experience of drawing a comic for a relatively short span of time.

Jaxson Bell
Jaxson Bell

delivering a one shot sort of prototype version to deliver the premise and tone, and the editor decides whether you're worth the spot in the magazine
That makes sense user. I wonder how you would even contact them. Or, what the fuck is stopping them from just copying your idea and publishing it themselves and say they never even got my book? Calling it their own original idea?

Carter Perez
Carter Perez

ITT: filtered photographs

Hunter Jenkins
Hunter Jenkins

He draws sameface, but his vehicles and monsters make things to my dick

Adam Torres
Adam Torres

I wonder how you would even contact them.
I'd assume you'd call them and schedule a meeting.
Or, what the fuck is stopping them from just copying your idea and publishing it themselves and say they never even got my book?
Then who's gonna draw it? Come on, they sell comic books, not comic book scripts and ideas, dude.

Camden Roberts
Camden Roberts

Here's some Kuroda, now shut up.

Jack Scott
Jack Scott

You know it's good when even doujin artists are intimated by its raw skill.

Jacob Ross
Jacob Ross

You would sue them. And the judge would see that you'd contacted them and presented an idea, and that the idea you claimed to have presented was exactly like what they'd published, and they would lose the case.

Mason Carter
Mason Carter

Yeah, that makes sense. I'm just a paranoid freak.

I wonder though, do you think they'd look into your background or anything like that? Like see what degrees or whatever you have? Or would they just look at the raw product?

David Hill
David Hill

I wonder though, do you think they'd look into your background or anything like that? Like see what degrees or whatever you have? Or would they just look at the raw product?
That would depend on the publication, wouldn't it? But as long as it doesnt interfere with your ability to deliver a a quality product on time, I can't see it mattering.

You're overthinking this. A comic book is just a comic book, not a federal fucking issue. If you can make a product that makes people want to buy their magazine, then they will want to hire you.

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross

This. If OP has to use fucking mangapanda then he clearly needs to lurk more.

Jonathan Young
Jonathan Young

1. Do a practise run on each page's plannel layout
2. Refine your sick figures and background
3. rinse and repeat

Ian Phillips
Ian Phillips

proper scans never

Blake Gomez
Blake Gomez

I'm pretty sure there is LOTS of photo manipulation

But still, would love to see the author's full method to do all that. Does he lives in France to get access to all those references? It's as detailed as it can be.

I'm annoyed by those fucboi samefaces though.

Brandon Johnson
Brandon Johnson

Alright, thanks mate.

stick figures
I feel dumb.

Aiden Hall
Aiden Hall

Guys, how do I draw a female character without making her look sexy, but at the same time seem sexy?

I was thinking maybe a thick winter coat on top and scarf with a short dress or tights or something on the bottom. What do?
conservative but sexy
I just can't do it.

Nathan Reyes
Nathan Reyes

Innocence "realism" is as unique as it can be though. You can perfectly recognize it, and the faces aren't just plain "realism" either.

Austin Moore
Austin Moore

Dude, this page is clearly a manipulated photo you know.

Bentley Gomez
Bentley Gomez

cute face, normal body type.
the attractive face part is important.

Ryan Foster
Ryan Foster

Guys, how do I draw a female character without making her look sexy, but at the same time seem sexy?
Well for one thing by not wanting to give her traits that are contradictory.

If what you mean is to draw an attractive character that isn't flaunting her stuff, then just... do that? I don't see the problem here. Just draw a cute/sexy girl but in an outfit that doesn't show a lot of skin and isn't fitted too tightly.

Kevin Sanders
Kevin Sanders

Good thing Worst came back strong and gave us lots more big dudes.

Ethan Cox
Ethan Cox

eyelashes on side or top (of the eye) would you say?

Blake Nelson
Blake Nelson

Yoshikazu draws the best female bodies.

Ian Rodriguez
Ian Rodriguez

stick figures
As in turning them from a body frame to a fleshed out oc.

Benjamin Rodriguez
Benjamin Rodriguez

I love how his work gives off a traditionnal look even though it's all digital. Works well with the setting of the story too.

Hudson Carter
Hudson Carter

Sure? This isn't /ic/, so not the best place to be discussing minutia of art. I'd the question over there if I were you.

Charles Price
Charles Price

And I didn't really like most of his colored pics back then, but since a few volumes he really has been doing a fucking great job.

Colton Bennett
Colton Bennett

We're just talking casual here m9.

Dylan Williams
Dylan Williams

Use photos as reference, then slowly get the fell how the body works.

Jack Cook
Jack Cook

What's your drawing master Sup Forums?
I mean, the author of the philosophy and/or technique you use.
Mine was bert dobson, with keys to drawing.

Zachary Hall
Zachary Hall

Who said it wasn't, idiot?

Elijah Phillips
Elijah Phillips

posts on a best manga artists thread
now THIS is some great art guys
but it's just a photoshop'd photo
who said it wasn't?

Brandon Brown
Brandon Brown

Photography is a form of art.

Kevin Wilson
Kevin Wilson

Yeah, so next I guess I'll post some statues? We're on Sup Forums you fucking retard.
/p/

Jose Williams
Jose Williams

Surprised no one posted Takeshi Obata and Masami Kurumada

Easton Jackson
Easton Jackson

Yeah, so next I guess I'll post some statues?
If it's in a manga page then it applies both to this board and this thread. Photography is a form of art. If is used in a manga page it is part of the page's art. Ergo, photography can be manga art. I don't care whether you like photobashed manga art or not, but it's a perfectly valid way to create a particular look and atmosphere without committing what's essentially suicide-by-workload.

Eli Cruz
Eli Cruz

Source? Google gives me nothing and so does "yabuki" on batoto

Blake Murphy
Blake Murphy

Only he can get away with this.

Jackson Reyes
Jackson Reyes

Go read the /IC sticky u cuck

Ethan Ward
Ethan Ward

The amount of detail in I am a hero is above and beyond everything else.

Jose Torres
Jose Torres

How new must you be to not know To-Love Ru ?

Bentley Sanchez
Bentley Sanchez

If you prefer the more realistic work, that is.

Matthew Price
Matthew Price

Here's the other end of that spectrum.

Evan Walker
Evan Walker

Pretty new to Sup Forums actually, but thanks for the manga name anyways

Andrew James
Andrew James

Most American comic artists I know do about a page a day. Drawing comics is a lot of hard work & takes a while. Of course practice makes you faster, but but unless you got the money to hire a top notch pro it's gonna take some time to get a page done. Anyone who is fast with low rates just isn't that good.

Sebastian Martin
Sebastian Martin

Spoopy

Joseph Cox
Joseph Cox

Yeah, but what does your MC want? To destroy humanity?

Levi Fisher
Levi Fisher

It's really not that detailed compared to many other manga, several of which have already been posted.

William Gutierrez
William Gutierrez

Samura is totally an artists artist.

He doesn't really do the autistic detail stuff, but his work is just so fucking solid and fits together so well.

He also draws the best abused waifus.

Jaxson Lewis
Jaxson Lewis

Ouch, that background's a bit of a mess.

Tyler Bennett
Tyler Bennett

You are full of hot shit. Please fuck off with that crit that doesn't make any sense. I do agree that's there's less focus on the backgrounds in Prison School, but as long as you set up the space there's no need for constant background porn.

Ayden Morris
Ayden Morris

But it doesn't matter.

Because it's not actually important. You aren't supposed to look at it. It fills out the rest of the piece so you don't have some huge fuckugly blank space.

Making that background detailed would make that page worse.

Adrian Young
Adrian Young

Overly detailed art isn't the only sign of a good artist, especially when you guys keep posting photoshop filtered photos.

Christopher Sullivan
Christopher Sullivan

Excuses. The only justification for making that background a messy scribble is running out of time. Not everything is a measured step, even experienced artists mess up sometimes.

Caleb Ward
Caleb Ward

You can't. You should draw everyday for 8+ hours for 5 years +

Carson Peterson
Carson Peterson

This isn't true though? You put more effort in what you want people to focus on. People have been doing this for years, centuries even.

Nathan Cook
Nathan Cook

Are you just not understanding how a lack of overall definition is good in this case?

This is pretty much fucking composition 101 here.

Henry Long
Henry Long

Excuses. The only justification for making that background a messy scribble is running out of time.
autist pls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qIW_u0WSTM&f

David Collins
David Collins

All well and good, but the very fact that I even brought this up is evidence that he just kind of fucked up here, because it's not having the intended effect and it's distracting me from the focus of the page.

I'm specifically referring to the top right, where it looked like someone dared the dude to draw the bush/tree/whatever with his eyes closed. The top left is fine and has the intended effect.

I'm not saying he's wrong to draw the background in less detail, I'm not saying it's a bad picture or that his composition is wrong. I'm pointing out a flaw that is, to me, quite glaring and obviously distracting.

If you were right, then there would be no discussion here because there would have been nothing for me to complain about. Again, even great artists mess up sometimes.

Jordan Collins
Jordan Collins

Obviously not, be glad you didn't post this in /ic/

Colton Anderson
Colton Anderson

Someone post Sun Ken Rock

Caleb Hernandez
Caleb Hernandez

That's stupid, so you can't draw anything from your mind? Please read some loomis.

Henry Wood
Henry Wood

Kakegurui's artist is pretty good too

Ethan Williams
Ethan Williams

skimming
Innocent

Please drop it, you clearly don't deserve it.

Luis Reyes
Luis Reyes

But don't post any women, because it reveals that Boichi is incapable of making them look distinct.

Jacob Robinson
Jacob Robinson

pretty good
Stop deluding yourself. Your picture looks shitty.

Jackson Russell
Jackson Russell

just an opinion dude. no need to be triggered

Justin Mitchell
Justin Mitchell

No Masakazu Katsura

For shame Sup Forums.

Asher Ortiz
Asher Ortiz

The thread is about raw talent, not what you think looks good.

Ryder Evans
Ryder Evans

art is subjective, you can't win m8

Jeremiah Flores
Jeremiah Flores

Nah, things like what good anatomy, proportions, shading and perspective are aren't subjective.

Aaron Baker
Aaron Baker

Did he just decide to give up trying when drawing her lower 3/5th?

Nicholas Myers
Nicholas Myers

141205983

and kagegurui does that well within it's style. are we done here?

Jose Russell
Jose Russell

His art was only exceptional in Zetman.

And everybody fucking hates Zetman.

Nolan Hughes
Nolan Hughes

proportions
Why proportions, though?

Josiah Gutierrez
Josiah Gutierrez

I missed the new chapter
Fuck, thanks for the heads up

Henry Hernandez
Henry Hernandez

The issue is that the two main figures are dark and the sword that the one on the left is holding points directly to the light background drawing your eye there first.

I do agree that may not have been the intention of the artist, but that's what ended up happening. This shot should have composed a bit differently. That I can agree with.

Ian Myers
Ian Myers

No disagrees that Prison School's art is really good there when it is posted there.

Michael Cook
Michael Cook

His art was only exceptional in Zetman.
His art has been exceptional since Video Girl Ai.

Brayden Rivera
Brayden Rivera

Whenever I see this mangaka drawing on his channel I never see him tracing photo reference though? Did I miss something? His does use reference, but so does every other artist?

I do agree that this is very good.

Cooper Martin
Cooper Martin

Are you serious? The best of all manga? I'd like to see proof of that. The art isn't bad, but it's nothing special. You sound like someone who'd think the artworks that are popular on deviantart are actually good.

Xavier Green
Xavier Green

Thats boruto

Michael Peterson
Michael Peterson

That was a misquote, it was supposed to be for

Jayden Edwards
Jayden Edwards

There we go again, humans fucking the fucking aliens.

Christian Gomez
Christian Gomez

but it's nothing special.
nothing special

It's not the "best" since anyway that doesn't exists, but Hiramoto's art is still top tier, you must be blind to think the opposite. Even more for a weekly series.

Liam Bell
Liam Bell

This.
Where/when is 214 of prison school?

Hunter Nelson
Hunter Nelson

Is pic related supposed to be an example of that? It's fucking ugly, can you not see how fucked up the anatomy of that face is? I guess I'm blind then. The only "good" thing about his art is how rendered it is.

Landon Hill
Landon Hill

It's stylized and obviously supposed to be creepy moron.

Connor Gray
Connor Gray

That's not a fucking excuse. You sound like a 15 year old kid who when called out for bad anatomy answers "no that's just my style!!"

Christian Cox
Christian Cox

can you not see how fucked up the anatomy of that face is?
If you want realistic 2D faces I suggest you go outside.

Brayden Flores
Brayden Flores

Except Hiramoto isn't a 15 year old kid but a pro with ton of experience that need to prove his skills at this point you fucking retard.

Jacob Robinson
Jacob Robinson

*that doesn't need

Juan Jones
Juan Jones

I suspect that you and I assign different values to the word "exceptional".

Wyatt Bailey
Wyatt Bailey

He draws some amazing titties.

Jose Ortiz
Jose Ortiz

It's fucking ugly, can you not see how fucked up the anatomy of that face is? I guess I'm blind then.
No, you're just stupid. Look at the level of detail, the emotion that is conveyed. There's actually nothing wrong with the anatomy there either. You'd have to be pretty retarded to not see that Hiramoto is one of the best artists in the industry.

Hudson Miller
Hudson Miller

dinosaurs?
dinosaurs are cool

Nolan Myers
Nolan Myers

I started reading Prison School purely because the art style is absolutely gorgeous, and then was thrilled when it was a genuinely riveting/interesting/funny series.

If you just told me its premise, I would've overlooked it in a heartbeat and that would've been a mistake.

Samuel Rodriguez
Samuel Rodriguez

We've all killed ourselves

Henry Stewart
Henry Stewart

Half of what goes into the decision of what manga to read next is how much I like the cover art. Mostly because at the end of the day, if I was looking for literary masterpiece, I'd go pick up some actual books and not manga.

Samuel Cox
Samuel Cox

It teaches you a lot, even if you don't draw with a reference.

Totally recommend it.

Josiah Ward
Josiah Ward

Good point, I just never thought of it that way.

Landon Martinez
Landon Martinez

Huh? I've read it, but the only time it's really useful is when trying to copy something, doesn't help with constructing whatsoever

Nicholas Parker
Nicholas Parker

I like zetman
When it updates ever

Oliver Brooks
Oliver Brooks

No one's posted Kaiji yet

Adam Jones
Adam Jones

mangareader

Thomas Nelson
Thomas Nelson

Why hasnt anyone mentioned this nigga yet?

Tyler Murphy
Tyler Murphy

The art isn't bad, but it's nothing special.

Are you trolling or is this bait? Are you just being a contrarian? No one said it was the 'best of all manga,' but no one disagrees that it isn't very well drawn and the storytelling is pretty on point.

Well, except for you, because you gotta be different for the sake of being different. Have you ever drawn anything before? Granted that his work isn't perfect, but when you can get your shit to look like that then we'll talk about it being "nothing special."

Ethan Rivera
Ethan Rivera

Korean scans for 214 are out by the way.
Nothing happens

Ayden Robinson
Ayden Robinson

God you're retarded. Yes I draw, do you? You sound more like a triggered fanboy than an artist, can't you take your favourite mangaka getting critiqued? Now you're even talking about storytelling, which isn't even close to what this thread is about.
Also
No one said it was the 'best of all manga'
As far as illustration goes, is Prison School the best display of raw talent?

Charles Price
Charles Price

Idiots like you are killing Sup Forums. Fuck off back to your own board.

Daniel Gray
Daniel Gray

Shigurui is pretty gud, artwise and otherwise, and it makes me sad that there's not more series like it.

Robert White
Robert White

you're killing Sup Forums by wanting to talk about drawings and not photos!

Angel Thomas
Angel Thomas

What about Baki, you guys?

Nolan Lee
Nolan Lee

I-I like Inuyashiki.

Brayden Murphy
Brayden Murphy

And I suspect that you've either didn't read much manga from Katsura or are just a photorealism hipster, or both.
Itagaki is kind of in his own league, I like him a lot but his art is admittedly not for everyone.

Jose Ortiz
Jose Ortiz

The only reason I dont read this is because the artstyle physically disgusts me.

Jayden Barnes
Jayden Barnes

I understand when people don't like Captain Tsubasa, but don't when they dislike Baki. I don't read either, though.

Cooper Scott
Cooper Scott

Yes I draw, do you?

Yes, I do.

You sound more like a triggered fanboy than an artist, can't you take your favourite mangaka getting critiqued?

"Nothing special" isn't really a critique though. Your sense of aesthetics might be different though. You might like more 'grit' or realism, but that doesn't take away from the fact that art is still really good. I know that it's hard to realize, but just because you hate something doesn't mean that it's bad.

Owen Smith
Owen Smith

Not really, although ore to akuma has arguably a more realistic style, the best parts of it are the surreal parts, at least from visual point of view.

Julian Jackson
Julian Jackson

Drawn-over CGI models

I still can't really decide if Oku's work has a strong, striking look or if it's just a mess. At least Inuyashiki isn't as bad as Gantz was with how goddamn messy and impossible to make out it was from time to time.

Nolan Harris
Nolan Harris

Do some retrospective.
While is mostly referenced work, it also teaches you how do hold the pen, how to make chicken scratches into drawings, middle points in subjects, etc. You can show it to a total novice, and even if he doesn't do referenced work, it may help him a lot. I know that it did to me.

Asher Wright
Asher Wright

And just because you like something doesn't mean it's good, user.

Joseph Murphy
Joseph Murphy

I don't remember having a problem with Gantz. Do you have a particular example?

Caleb Garcia
Caleb Garcia

This manga fulfills my gear fetish

Cooper Jackson
Cooper Jackson

I wouldn't know about "raw talent", since anyone who's any good at any of this has put in a fuckton of work, but for me it's either Kentaro Miura or Takehiko Inoue. And choosing between Vagabond and Berserk is really, really fucking hard.

If I had to say, I guess I lean towards Inoue a bit. His work feels more artistic and expressive.

Tyler Ross
Tyler Ross

"Nothing special" isn't really a critique though.

And yet you act like somebody said that artstyle is the worst thing ever.

I know that it's hard to realize, but just because you hate something doesn't mean that it's bad

And just because you think something is good doesn't make it the best thing ever, it just means that you like it.

Noah Watson
Noah Watson

I like gears too

Noah Barnes
Noah Barnes

This thread need some
Nihei

Ryan White
Ryan White

Might be that the scans weren't the best, but generally I found that his black on black on black aesthetic made things really hard to actually make out, at times. Everything's just shades of gray and there's not a lot of contrast, so the more busy scenes can get really, really busy.

In this picture, for example, it's really hard to actually get a good idea of the mecha. And it gets worse when said mecha is fighting an alien that's also hard to make out.

Luis Carter
Luis Carter

as Gantz was with how goddamn messy and impossible to make out it was from time to time.

I think you just read shitty scans.

Adrian Foster
Adrian Foster

Every character has the same face
Scenery is always the same
In every fucking work
Every time

I know it's a stylistic choice and all, but Nihei really only does one thing. Biomega's latter half felt somewhat fresh, but Sidonia was right back to the same thing again. Although with more mechs.

William Price
William Price

That mech does kind look like a jumble of machinery and wires and hydraulics

Maybe that was the point?

Camden Carter
Camden Carter

Baki makes me feel things

Adam Evans
Adam Evans

I've got the huge Osaka edition of Gantz, and the quality compared to the page you posted (and the ones of arc I saw on the net) are like night and days.

But that mecha does is a mess. He looks totally different from the big suit whose design is pretty clear. It obvioulsy wasn't supposed to be defined like mecha but more something mechanical like a self made bionicle.

Grayson Ramirez
Grayson Ramirez

What's wrong with his thumb?

Jacob Carter
Jacob Carter

Shingo is kill
Prison School is good again!

Austin James
Austin James

Asano Ihio draws well

Kevin Kelly
Kevin Kelly

that's literally the only thing Oh Great! is good for

I'd feel so blessed if he actually drew some hentai his art style is my favorite

Lucas Cooper
Lucas Cooper

comparing Fagsano to Inoue
The absolute heresy.

Brody Perry
Brody Perry

Hentai in Oh great's maddening dynamic art would have enough violent sexual impact to destroy half of Yuropoor.

Austin Ward
Austin Ward

Baki is good shit

Jaxson Lopez
Jaxson Lopez

Fucking Shibukawa mang.

Jaxon Lewis
Jaxon Lewis

Nah, his drawing skills are not that good, he does good stuff with photoshop though.

Parker Walker
Parker Walker

Y'all niggas gay

Liam Williams
Liam Williams

Does anyone actually have any idea what the point of Ali Jr. actually was, story-wise? It just seemed to me that he randomly popped up and that story went literally nowhere. There was no real buildup or even payoff, it was just a random arc at the end of the series.

Come to think of it, "Randomly popped up, didn't really go anywhere" feels like a pretty good way to describe every arc of NGB. That series was just confused, man.

Hunter Mitchell
Hunter Mitchell

Realistic hairstyles, they get me everytime

Liam Reed
Liam Reed

Prison school is definitely my favorite manga in terms of art.

What is super impressive is all the angles he uses to show the action. Tons of wide angled shots, a few fish eye shots too. Great mise en scene.
The focus on angles to create art really feels like a film director is making this

Jose Cooper
Jose Cooper

Keisuke has a strange sense of anatomy

Brody Nguyen
Brody Nguyen

I actually found the art kinda bad during New Grappler Baki, but I'm loving what he does in Baki Dou.

Samuel Lopez
Samuel Lopez

angles
Please use "perspective" like a proper anonymous poster in the /a/-chinese cartoons and comics message board.

Gabriel Bennett
Gabriel Bennett

Ali Jr. arc was basically an excuse to put Ali in the manga, the biggest point in the arc was Ali getting kind of back in shape and scolding his son, Jr was basically there to job to the main cast and show that no matter how confident you're of winning, if you don't fight for real you're not going to get anywhere, even if you're the son of a super athlete.

Aiden Ward
Aiden Ward

Prison School 214 Korean Leaks:
/a/thread/141209568#p141209568
Korean Bros will keep evading those threads...

Isaiah Johnson
Isaiah Johnson

Kiyoushirou Inoue is the most technically skilled manga artist out there.

This is a fact.

Gabriel Garcia
Gabriel Garcia

Fuck off with your shitty gook scans.

Christopher Gutierrez
Christopher Gutierrez

Is this the rec thread?

Joseph Jackson
Joseph Jackson

manhua isn't allowed on Sup Forums according to Sup Forums :^)

Carson Price
Carson Price

you are gook

Jack Walker
Jack Walker

Most of them have really generic and unimpressive art.
Don't let the apparent details and colors fool you, bait-kun. That's just the communism-styled labors of countless unnamed lesser assistant artists without any real substance.

Alexander Sanchez
Alexander Sanchez

step it up senpai

Henry Williams
Henry Williams

Fuck you for mentioning punpun. That manga is the most depressing read ever.

Leo Lopez
Leo Lopez

Sauce please ? The guy seems to have drawn a lot. Also what's the story ?

Oliver Thomas
Oliver Thomas

Except this thread is about art-oh wait, PunPun is still not qualified.

Zachary Clark
Zachary Clark

I've seen these images before and tried reading the manga because they are impressive. Went through the first volume.
Holy shit it's bad. Proportions are really distorted, characters are have no depth whatsoever, and the story is very removed from reality which kills all suspension of disbelief.

Jonathan Robinson
Jonathan Robinson

Just finish it stop being a bitch.

Jace Torres
Jace Torres

the tone changes a lot after the 4th volume or so. maybe give it another try.

Jacob James
Jacob James

because it takes me 10 fucking hours to draw one page of panels JUST right
One page a day is not bad pace you cunt.

Thomas Barnes
Thomas Barnes

I just read the last chapter. How often do they drop ?

Charles Gonzalez
Charles Gonzalez

Maybe one day. The start wasn't particularly impressive.

Kevin Harris
Kevin Harris

It was litterally on hiatus for 8 years, but it recently resumed. I'm pretty sure more chapters are already available, so it's just up to the scan team.

Ryan Perry
Ryan Perry

Yes

Logan Gonzalez
Logan Gonzalez

8 years ? Wow I knew he had paused it but not it was for so long. Glad I began just a few months ago, this is really good shit

John Robinson
John Robinson

this is like calling gantz incredibly artistic; what a waste

Jaxon Cook
Jaxon Cook

that mouth anatomy is completely wrong

Connor Flores
Connor Flores

they clap when he finishes
everytime

Luis Cooper
Luis Cooper

for me, ako is better

Bentley Bell
Bentley Bell

In terms of technical prowess without getting into ultrarealism, Yabuki Kentaro is definitely up there, as well as Murata. Pretty sure they were assistants for another famous mangaka together, just can't recall who.

Jordan Lopez
Jordan Lopez

You're holding yourself to a legitimate PROFESSIONAL standard. Practice and keep at it. don't compare yourself to the big dogs and take your time. If you had a month you could make a chapter drawing solo.

Jaxson Gonzalez
Jaxson Gonzalez

Oh, I remember this page. I really loved that guy

Camden King
Camden King

draw at ten hours a panel and you'll still outpace Miura. If it's a labour of love and you have the time you'll barely even notice it. If it works out, hire assistants.

Levi Bailey
Levi Bailey

Despite the wacky story. Terraformars has some great Art. its so consistent

Alexander Hernandez
Alexander Hernandez

For me, this

Justin Reyes
Justin Reyes

yeah, i love the way what he take care of takeshi and later the old sr take care of both

Cooper Martin
Cooper Martin

i want read this manga so badly... the art it's cool

Levi Perez
Levi Perez

Terraformars has some great Art.
No. Just no.

Jacob Sanchez
Jacob Sanchez

You can't be serious?
Prison School is one of the most generic looking manga I've ever seen and that's saying something

Gabriel Rivera
Gabriel Rivera

enjoy your traced photos and cgi bullshit

computeres werent even invented when this came out

Charles Anderson
Charles Anderson

Then how is there a computer image of it?

Adam Scott
Adam Scott

because sunabozu only comes out bi-monthly

Elijah Bailey
Elijah Bailey

I fucking love early Hiroyuki Takei
This is all lefit hand-drawn btw no bullshit photographic/digital gimmickry here

Nolan Ross
Nolan Ross

Depends on what you are looking for. I love how are drawn the action scenes in AoT.

Carter Myers
Carter Myers

Check his twitter account

https://twitter.com/14MOUNTAIN/status/713999390956920832

Christian King
Christian King

Oh, didn't think to check if he had a site/blog, thanks.

Isaiah Perez
Isaiah Perez

I love how it looks

Andrew Kelly
Andrew Kelly

Sun Ken Rock

Oliver Reyes
Oliver Reyes

itt alot of cluttered overdone shit

James Martin
James Martin

Oh Great > God > Oku Hiroya > everyone else

Ayden Nguyen
Ayden Nguyen

Thank you, user. Based Oh!Great has done some crazy shit.

Adrian Roberts
Adrian Roberts

In terms of generic manga, it's one of the better.

Noah Cruz
Noah Cruz

Was Ken Akamatsu his assistant or something, they look so similar to me.

Nathan Phillips
Nathan Phillips

Maybe the opposite. Akamatsu started publishing mange before him.

William Edwards
William Edwards

nobody mentioned this nigga yet

John Martin
John Martin

Hes good, but so is the guy who makes Berserk. Thinking about it, I'd say that there are plenty of mangakas at that level.

Hunter Lopez
Hunter Lopez

I don't think you know what generic means.

Jaxson Long
Jaxson Long

Wow, somebody fixed this. Looks leagues better than the original.

Adrian Diaz
Adrian Diaz

Hisa Masato, duh

Jordan Lee
Jordan Lee

computers weren't invented in 1997

Holy shit a retard.

Adam Garcia
Adam Garcia

thats not a nice thing to say

Carter Martinez
Carter Martinez

Yes. My nigga. Takei is the perfect kind of cartoony.

Landon Cruz
Landon Cruz

I don't know if the manga is like that, but I always hated the cankles in the Shaman King anime.

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