Implying he wouldn't have objectively improved the world and pushed it closer...

Nicholas Price
Nicholas Price

implying he wouldn't have objectively improved the world and pushed it closer to an utopia than any other figure in history

Caleb Diaz
Caleb Diaz

Watch the show again.The power corrupted him in the end.

Sebastian Nguyen
Sebastian Nguyen

babby's first antivillain

Benjamin Lewis
Benjamin Lewis

Everything Light Imagay did was for others in the end. Anything seemingly immoral was just to get rid of people who got in the way of him getting rid of criminal scum.

Thomas Gomez
Thomas Gomez

he started to kill innocent people for no fucking reason other than "oh no they might discover I'm Kira"

Ayden Thomas
Ayden Thomas

It would have been a nightmare and an even worse planet than when he started using the death note.

Evan Gutierrez
Evan Gutierrez

he wasn't even an anti-villain

just a villain villain
his ideals and demeanor wasn't any different then most anime villains

Josiah Price
Josiah Price

It would have fallen apart eventually when he dies. A human can't be a god.

Luke Sanders
Luke Sanders

Reminder that Yagami backwards is Imagay.

Jeremiah Price
Jeremiah Price

Aoi Bungaku thread?
No Longer Human was my least favorite arc

Adrian Flores
Adrian Flores

But utopias suck.

Know why nobody makes movies and shit based on utopias? Because they are boring.

Aaron Bennett
Aaron Bennett

he wasn't even an anti-villain just a villain villain

do you even know what anti-heroes/anti-villains are.

Luke Garcia
Luke Garcia

he did nothing wrong meme

Aaron Harris
Aaron Harris

inb4 people get into yet another argument where idiots believe that heroes = protagonist and villains = antagonist, and they also believe protagonist=good guy and antagonist=bad guy

Hudson Clark
Hudson Clark

characters that don't fit the mold of what a typical hero/villain is

but Kira did fit the mold of villain to a T.
Or are you using the definition "villain that doesn't want to be called a villain" because that would make any villain beyond the Saturday morning variety "anti-villains"

Tyler James
Tyler James

Good and bad are just different perspectives. Protagonist will always be a "good" guy to some level.

Leo Wright
Leo Wright

It ran in SJ, SJ, friendship, hardwork and adventure. Can not have a guy like Light win.

Cooper Bennett
Cooper Bennett

thanks for clearing up for me you have no idea what you're talking about.

Light's intentions were pure but he acted in cruel and selfish ways, and then proceeded to develop a god complex. He is literally an anti-hero

Robert Scott
Robert Scott

Light's intentions were pure

he wanted to become god

Ethan Lewis
Ethan Lewis

Death note thread
people again still has no idea what the hell child-grade literary terms mean

Hero IS the protagonist, but a hero does not necessarily mean he's a good guy

The Villain the the character that OPPOSES the hero, he is an ANTAGONIST. Whatever the hero's goals are, the villain's purpose is to prevent the hero from obtaining it.

Again:

hero does not mean good guy
villain does not mean bad guy
the protagonist is the hero
the antagonist is the villain

Light is not an anti-villain, he is an anti-hero. Light is the protagonist of Death Note, not L

if L were the protagonist of Death Note, THEN Light Yagami be an anti-villain, since he would be opposing L (the protagonist, as a reminder) and would be deemed a villain who happens to have good intentions but is doing so in a cruel method.

His original intention was just to wipe criminals from the face of the world, he only later developed a God Complex and started doing shit that his past self would never consider doing. The manner by which he tried to obtain his goal was what set the moral ambiguity of his character, of whom believed in justice above all else.

This is the millionth thread you idiots argued over the literary status of a character from a show that aired a decade ago.

Chase Jenkins
Chase Jenkins

His original intention was just to wipe criminals from the face of the world

he wanted to be come God after he met Ryuk

I guess between when he got the death note and when he met Ryuk he was still a tip-top guy

Isaiah James
Isaiah James

it's Sup Forums, not /lit/

it's a board filled with /v/ cross posters and college dropouts who stay in their mother's basements to watch. Besides 90% of the people here equates heroes to "good" status because of capeshit and recent faux capeshit like Boku no Hero

Luis Davis
Luis Davis

He compromised his morality when he killed the fbi agents that were investigating the case: ironically this actually lead L to find him twice as fast.

Ethan Brooks
Ethan Brooks

"Hi, I'm a 20 something guy who's only experience in life is being a mass murderer! I will now kill people at random without actually doing any real investigation or learning who the hell I'm killing because it might create my twisted idea of a perfect world. I haven't discussed this plan with anyone or obtained any feedback on my ideas or methods from anyone who isn't a god of death or my psycho stalker, but I'm sure it'll work because I was a great student!
Justice

Easton Moore
Easton Moore

Because you need conflict

Ryan Wright
Ryan Wright

Light's idea of justice was that if he won in the end, Kira would be justice as he is the single most powerful agent of enforcement. If the police failed to enforce their own idea of justice against his then they would have lost and Kira would get his way. Kira is only not justice because he lost.

Kayden Williams
Kayden Williams

at first i could get behind his actions
but when he started killing off people he just didn't like that's where i draw the line

Zachary Barnes
Zachary Barnes

It's seems that everyone is forgetting the fact that Light needed to kill people that were suspicious of him and are investigating this case so that he could continue his goal on making an ideal world. But I guess this is in fact Sup Forums and no one here knows what a "goal" is.

Camden Evans
Camden Evans

implying hes even real

good post my silly neckbearded friend, but it is just a cartoon

Luke Smith
Luke Smith

Becoming god is what every man should strife towards to.

Jayden Scott
Jayden Scott

The power corrupted him in the end
Only people who agree with this are his enemies, meaning either criminals or self-righteous megalomaniacs.

Landon Wilson
Landon Wilson

Light is Villain Protagonist mate.

Kevin Barnes
Kevin Barnes

Implying becoming god isn't the purest desire of humanity

Ryan Williams
Ryan Williams

implying utopia = forced to live by someone else's will

Kevin Collins
Kevin Collins

Don't you know that the original definition of utopia is a promised land where people live harmoniously by the will of God?

Adrian Williams
Adrian Williams

But you're right, anon-kun~

Jace Carter
Jace Carter

then it wouldn't be considered a utopia now would it, rather more akin to a dictatorship

Owen Jackson
Owen Jackson

I said "original definition"

Josiah Stewart
Josiah Stewart

But is it really a utopia if the peace only exists out of fear? I'm sure people who wanted to do bad would find away around Kira eventually. To create a true utopia everyone would have to want to be good, you can't threaten the evil out of people.

Nicholas Garcia
Nicholas Garcia

All he did was kill people he didn't like. As long as you don't get Light's attention you'd be fine.

Parker Taylor
Parker Taylor

that's the definition of an antivillain.

Asher Diaz
Asher Diaz

I'm currently re-watching and I can tell you that although he got arrogant, he still kept his ideals

I'm on episode 34

Brody Ramirez
Brody Ramirez

No you idiot, he's an anti-character

Michael Watson
Michael Watson

He is the anti-(You)

Caleb Rivera
Caleb Rivera

You could have just said

Anti-hero: Evil main character
Anti-villain: Good antagonist

They're anti because they don't fit the classical mold

Logan Davis
Logan Davis

Implying he didn't achieve just that
Did you see the second half? He basically did, everyone's too afraid to commit crimes because the ever-looming threat of Kira hangs over them. Near and the task force don't even prevent this in any way when they catch and kill Light, because they have to keep that information a secret.
Meaning the public still thinks Kira exists, and none of the "problems" he created were solved. They only brought Light himself to justice for the countless murders he commited without addressing the actual changes he brought about in the world, let alone clearly taking a stance against or in favour of the changes.

Jordan Davis
Jordan Davis

people don't know what literary terms mean
here's false definitions for these literary terms
That's not what a hero is. That's a protagonist.
Villain and antagonist are not synonymous, although they more often than not overlap. An anti-hero is a heroic figure who does not fit the typical hero mold. Light does fit this archetype because he aims for heroic goals by using evil means. Anti-heroes are often just "the ends justify the means"-type people.

In literary terms, protagonist and antagonist are all the matter in regards to the terms you brought up. Hero and villain are entirely perspective-based titles given the opposing characters, which is why hero usually equates to protagonist and villain usually equates to antagonist.

In fact the purpose of Death Note is to strike the debate of whether or not Light was a hero. He was objectively the protagonist, but whether he is the hero or the villain comes down to each individual's interpretations.

Aaron Gonzalez
Aaron Gonzalez

His biggest mistake and the first, key event that compromised his morality was actually trying to kill L on live TV. If he didn't get baited so hard by L and try to kill him just to satisfy his ego, L would have likely had literally no leads on Light's location and thus probably NEVER located him. Which would have been funny because you should be able to see Light's overinflated ego with your naked eye from space at that point.
If you think about it every single event in the series after that one is just Light trying to recover from that massive slip-up caused by his ego and god-complex.

Julian Green
Julian Green

Dystopia is the name.

Ayden Scott
Ayden Scott

I agree, besides it felt very dark and depressive compared to the other works.

Cooper Williams
Cooper Williams

deathnote in a nutshell.
i too saw that as the biggest, glaring flaw in his actions. He fucked up bad killing that guy.
I also really miss L. It almost seemed like L saw him as a genuine friend, though Kira didn't share the feelings. But pre-death note Kira (when he lost his memories) was pretty chill around L. Near doesn't measure up to L honestly. He's just a mini "lite" version of L , pun intended.

Joseph Ross
Joseph Ross

I think at that point, the creator didn't mean for the series to turn so long, probably had that happen as kind of an epic assbeating from L's part

Mason King
Mason King

From WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006) [wn]:

villain
n 1: a wicked or evil person; someone who does evil deliberately
[syn: {villain}, {scoundrel}]
2: the principal bad character in a film or work of fiction
[syn: {villain}, {baddie}]

Luis Gutierrez
Luis Gutierrez

You're absolutely retarded. As the other user said, how does that not make every other villain ever just as "right"?

Evan Foster
Evan Foster

There are no good guys, everybody's an asshole
Light stopped at nothing to pursue justice, L stopped at nothing to pursue justice
Remember L had a guy die live on tv, L tortured Misa, he kept 2 people prisoners for 50 days based on a hunch and then pretended to kill Light. L wasn't a good guy by any stretch of the imagination, remember that scene where they're both saying they will find the other and that they are justice? The 2 faces of the same medal

Nathan Torres
Nathan Torres

L had a guy die live on tv
He was going to be executed anyway.

Jayden Nguyen
Jayden Nguyen

How long would ISIS survive if they are inside Death Note world?

Christopher Diaz
Christopher Diaz

I'm pretty sure that offering up someone as bait like that would be considered wrong by many people

Angel Turner
Angel Turner

He would have if he had not gone overboard with his powers.

Jonathan Lopez
Jonathan Lopez

t. Lucifer

Cameron Russell
Cameron Russell

t.
Cancer.

Grayson Wood
Grayson Wood

he should've killed politicians instead of petty criminals if he really wanted to change the world

Andrew Williams
Andrew Williams

Only L suspected he would actually die by just sitting in front of a camera and saying his name.

Caleb Butler
Caleb Butler

You can't overboard if your only power is killing
He still fucked up by not killing Mikami's stalker and Takada's mole bodyguard
SPK would have lost 2 guys

Ian Garcia
Ian Garcia

actually thats the defintion of an anti-hero
an anti-villain wants to do evil, but is actually doing more good than anything bad(this kind is very rare), an anti-hero is someone who wants to do good, but is doing it in immoral ways like killing anyone he doesn't like.

Carson Rogers
Carson Rogers

the only bad thing L did in that scenario was promising him he would be pardoned if he survives. He would have let a criminal out into the world, one so bad that he was suppose to be executed, based on a hunch

Asher Long
Asher Long

L, M and N corrupted him.

Juan Bennett
Juan Bennett

an anti-villain wants to do evil, but is actually doing more good than anything bad

Can you name one?

Andrew Smith
Andrew Smith

Afterwards he tortured Misa
Light never tortured anyone

Easton Parker
Easton Parker

Afterwards he tortured Misa
Implying the dirty slut not loving it

Anthony Peterson
Anthony Peterson

implying Light didn't already do way worse things to her just to test her limits and get off on the power over his worshipper
Why is Misa literally fetish fuel?

Isaiah Williams
Isaiah Williams

kids first edgy "it's ok to do bad things if you have good intentions" MC

Aaron Wood
Aaron Wood

projecting

Julian Sanchez
Julian Sanchez

everyone's too afraid to commit crimes
That is wrong, people started to threaten others by revealing their faces/name on the internet. Mafia still existed as proven by Mello. Light can't do shit to masked man without birth register, so crimes still happened in third world countries.
Basically criminals began to adapt to the changes.

Nolan Price
Nolan Price

at the end

He never gave a fuck about his utopia, he just wanted to play god

He started everything out of boredom and refused to make the pact for the eyes. If he actually cared more about his utopia he would have made the pact, but his own life was more important for him

Angel Gutierrez
Angel Gutierrez

No Longer Human was my least favorite arc
Am i on bizzaro Sup Forums again?

Jordan Howard
Jordan Howard

What is there to even discuss in this thread? Light was wrong and became evil at the end. In the grand scheme of things is actions was fruitless and criminals would adapt to hide information. Besides he can't get everyone in his way, there are just too many people.

William Murphy
William Murphy

found the american

Chase Smith
Chase Smith

The problem is that he only killed those who were known to be criminals, because that was the extent of his power. He didn't have the power to punish every criminals without fail.

Basically those criminals smart enough to commit crimes without being caught, would still be active criminals in his "utopia".

Dylan Stewart
Dylan Stewart

Does Sup Forums like Death Note?
inb4 lurk more

Jaxson Jones
Jaxson Jones

2006-2011
No
2011-2014
Maybe
2014-now
Apparently

Juan Baker
Juan Baker

They would be very rare as people were absolutely terrified by what happened to criminals

Michael Gutierrez
Michael Gutierrez

Nah, he should kill billionaires instead, they're those who hold real control.

Xavier Wilson
Xavier Wilson

Committing crimes is a primary need of humanity. The only thing Light could achieve in the end would just be creating more intelligent and secret criminals.

Benjamin Howard
Benjamin Howard

Committing crimes is a primary need of humanity
Only for niggers

Xavier Ward
Xavier Ward

nah

clueless kids used clueless information

the world isnt as black and white as it is written in police reports you know

they already prove that if you manipulate which people you wrongly frame can be brought to their deaths through this system. the ending would be that not "evil" people die, but people who are a threat to someone who can control who gets framed and who doesnt

if you wanted to avoid his wrath, you would have to go war within japan as nameless soldiers. this would have been accomplished because he would been seen as a threat to the rest of the world. japan would be nuked again if japanese themselves wouldnt be ready to destroy places this person was possibly hiding. if missed, then move to another town until the killings stop

this man would cause japan to turn into chaos under threat of being nuked into oblivion

Dylan Scott
Dylan Scott

If that was true countries that have death penalty should show a consistent lower rate for the crimes that are punished that way. They don't.

What truly diminished the rate of a crime is how hard it is to get away with it, not how harshly it is punished.

Kira not being able to punish anyone that the system wasn't already capable of was his major flaw.

Robert Mitchell
Robert Mitchell

Dude the US surrendered to him
What president attacks a country where a supernatural killer lives?
Nobody does
He should have been much more pressing towards the us president
Tell the president to leak info about SPK online in exchange for his friendship
us president needs to leak info
him, cia and fbi agree
need to leak anonymously to avoid a scandal
start thread on /b/
LEAKED INFO ABOUT KIRA'S ENEMIES: KILL THESE HEATHENS LORD OF JUSTICE
thread is full of shitflinging and "DO IT" posts
next days people are announced dead
/kira/ board is added one day later

Logan Price
Logan Price

Read Akumetsu instead.

Ian Hill
Ian Hill

What if he got a love note instead?
Make two people fall in luv

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