Hurry /a/non summon your servant, the holy grail war is starting tommorow!

Lucas Nelson
Lucas Nelson

Hurry /a/non summon your servant, the holy grail war is starting tommorow!

Dominic Anderson
Dominic Anderson

I want to marry Medusa.

Easton Morris
Easton Morris

Has a master, outside of shirou, fucked his servant?

Jaxson Diaz
Jaxson Diaz

summoned Amu as archer

Jayden Jackson
Jayden Jackson

RULER

Kayden Lewis
Kayden Lewis

I summon CC pizza class servant

Benjamin Bailey
Benjamin Bailey

o shit whaddup

Julian Young
Julian Young

I win

Josiah Martin
Josiah Martin

>>>/twitter/

Lurk for 2 years before posting.

Kayden Long
Kayden Long

Bearserker

Ian Peterson
Ian Peterson

SAVE THE WORLD

John Cox
John Cox

I'd pump her so full of mana she could power three greater grails and a few extra wishes to boot.

Adam Torres
Adam Torres

Best girl.

Samuel Baker
Samuel Baker

GO DOWN

MOSES

Gavin Young
Gavin Young

RRRRROOOOOOOMAAAA!!!!!

Lincoln Ross
Lincoln Ross

nice caster you got there m8

Chase Stewart
Chase Stewart

Her gates of kebabylon won't do shit against my wall.

Henry Lewis
Henry Lewis

Why is she evil aligned?

Evan Powell
Evan Powell

She is Chaotic Good though.

Isaac Morris
Isaac Morris

You're getting official shota Moses instead

Josiah Walker
Josiah Walker

Best girl reporting in, alas she will never get a proper story.

Camden Edwards
Camden Edwards

I choose Seibah. I can summon all the other qt servants I want, permanently, after we win the Grail War.

Takeuchi protects.

Lincoln Richardson
Lincoln Richardson

summoned as berserker

Parker Walker
Parker Walker

Her

Hudson Price
Hudson Price

Can I summon Messiah if I'm an atheist?

Ryder Torres
Ryder Torres

no mercy for the weak

Jaxon Taylor
Jaxon Taylor

Step 1 : summon Medea
Step 2 : highjack a leyline to provide mana
Step 2 : use rule breaker on an other servant
Step 3 : there is no step 3
Step 4 : repeat step 2 as much as needed
Step 5 : build an harem
Step 6 : ???
Step 7 : Profit !

Robert Wood
Robert Wood

As Rider

Asher Long
Asher Long

Pretty sure Kuzuki fucked Medea. And Iskandar definitely made Waver his fuck toy. And of course Kotomine and Gilgamesh were super gay for each other.

Camden Peterson
Camden Peterson

Perfect Saber.

Swaps classes into Berserker if broken.

Nicholas Nelson
Nicholas Nelson

Pick one

Jordan Ross
Jordan Ross

I would like Jeanne or Mata Hari as a Servant. A lovely girl that would care for me.

Jacob Allen
Jacob Allen

He'd clearly punch his master if he ordered him to harm people.

Joshua Murphy
Joshua Murphy

That's a nice plan actually.

Also you have yourself a small army to boot.

Jaxon Butler
Jaxon Butler

where's Saver?

Carter Perry
Carter Perry

If he doesn't count as Berserker, then regular Decade as Rider

Benjamin Bell
Benjamin Bell

Archer Dolasilla, literally can't be defeated if it's not dusk

Alexander Wood
Alexander Wood

I don't even want to participate in the holy grail war. I just want to summon a strong female servant I can cuddle with and be protected by.

Joshua Garcia
Joshua Garcia

Lets save europe together.

SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABER!

Henry Johnson
Henry Johnson

Caster.

Brayden Hughes
Brayden Hughes

Saber, I guess.

Austin Rodriguez
Austin Rodriguez

caster indeed, good user

Joshua Garcia
Joshua Garcia

It's fucking shit that she chose to hook up with a homunculus. The romance thing ruined fate apo for me. Sometimes I wish a rider-class St. Gerogre showed up to slay dragon sieg and take Ruler's pussy.

Lucas Long
Lucas Long

Shit tier servant

Isaiah Sanchez
Isaiah Sanchez

Rider George isn't that strong, I guess he's more fit for the Ruler class.

Logan Stewart
Logan Stewart

I feel the same way about FSN senpai. The king of britain hooking up with some ginger pisses me off desu it's fucking cringey. It's one of the reasons why I still didn't watch FSN 2006.

Lincoln Morris
Lincoln Morris

Nobunaga
Ware no ikizama! Okehazama!

Jackson White
Jackson White

You're going to pay mana for the impenetrable Great Wall of Trump(NP).

James Campbell
James Campbell

It's also an EX rank defensive NP like Avalon

God bless Trump

William Roberts
William Roberts

How would Assassin of Black react?

Eli Brown
Eli Brown

Saber

Camden Ward
Camden Ward

Assassin

Joshua Moore
Joshua Moore

Rider

Michael James
Michael James

I summon my waifu as Lancer class

Joke's on you faggots she's immortal

Isaiah Gomez
Isaiah Gomez

You're all fucked.

Thomas Mitchell
Thomas Mitchell

Why hasn't any of the assassin's tried to slip rat poison into someone's coffee?

Connor Martin
Connor Martin

I counter your chocolate man with my own.

Sebastian Kelly
Sebastian Kelly

Summoning Dracula as a saber would turn him into a cute grill?

Daniel Phillips
Daniel Phillips

No.

Jacob Smith
Jacob Smith

Not in FGO (yet)

Asher Lee
Asher Lee

I don't think so, Cornelius is just a lame caster.

Levi Jenkins
Levi Jenkins

George is pretty weak, he's good for two things: protecting other people, and killing dragons. Most servants would beat him pretty handily in a one on one duel, though any sort of master-targeting nonsense would not work at all on him.

Kevin Reyes
Kevin Reyes

This is Fate Dracula

Joseph Jones
Joseph Jones

For what it's worth, I do like this version of Dracula, even if he's a fucking ponce.

Michael Reyes
Michael Reyes

Summon Bobby Fischer as Archer.

Jeremiah Brooks
Jeremiah Brooks

Assassin

Xavier Watson
Xavier Watson

Fate has two Vlad servants. What the fuck were they thinking.

Tyler Campbell
Tyler Campbell

Are there any Fate entries that don't end with "the grail is completely fucked"?
It gets kind of exhausting after a while.

Carter Garcia
Carter Garcia

Well IRL he's also seen as two different people, the "monster" by outsiders and the "hero" by his country.

Leo Gutierrez
Leo Gutierrez

Fate/Extra and Fate/Apocrypha

Andrew Scott
Andrew Scott

The grail isn't always fucked, only the Fuyuki Grail is, and only post Third War. But we'll probably never see anyone successfully make a wish using any grail at all, because it would be too far out there to really describe what happens when a guy makes a wish like "there will be world peace" except within the context of an absolute evil like Angra Mainyu.

Lincoln White
Lincoln White

twf you will never see animated adult reborn in action.
I don't care if hitman reborn went to shit I just wanna see it.

Mason Long
Mason Long

can shiki kill servants
ZOMBI
GOSUTO
SAABANTO

Cameron Morris
Cameron Morris

It's fucking shit that she chose to hook up with a homunculus.
Who?

Austin Campbell
Austin Campbell

angry manjew

Matthew Price
Matthew Price

That's a boy.

Robert Watson
Robert Watson

Saber

Eli Taylor
Eli Taylor

Sword Dancers Illya Counter Guardian or whatever the fuck she is ≠ Heaven's Failure Emilya

Hunter Powell
Hunter Powell

how are the Mages Association such retards, take the master of caster from the 5th holy grail war. He builds that huge machine to make extra large mana crystals, and Medea shows him what true size is.

Why don't they just realise that nobodies won and everybody dies and instead capitalise on the fact that super powerful magic is available for study and use.

Austin Edwards
Austin Edwards

Swap Faiz with Drake.

Isaac Evans
Isaac Evans

No step 3 even though step 3 is clearly marked
repeat step 2 even though there are two step 2s
Step 6 isn't a real step

Shit-tier plan.

Michael King
Michael King

Richard The Lionhearted as Saber

NP: Lionheart Sword

How to use the sword's special move:
Store mana energy inside the sword
Then recite this phrase:
"My spirit is the Lion, King of the beasts, through my blade flows his mighty roar, it's power to tear my enemy asunder; bare your fangs, Lionheart!"

slash his blade downwards. Doing this unleashes all the stored up energy, forming a gigantic lions head blast. The blast will shoot forward until it collides with a target, and upon collision, will explode in a tremendous blast, also letting out a wild roar.

Kinda like Arthur's Excalibur...

Dominic Reed
Dominic Reed

Because the "Holy Grail War" has gone on at least 4 times already and every single time nobody's walked out successful or alive.
By the time the fifth war rolls around, I'm pretty sure everyone who knows about it (correctly) thinks it's a trap.

Asher Green
Asher Green

That master wasn't a part of the Mage's Association, he's a member of ATLAS, the alchemy research organization based in the Middle East.

Medea's magic isn't something modern magi can learn from. It doesn't even utilize magic circuits - literally, Medea has the god-given right to speak certain words and magic effects will occur. This is not something that can be learned. It's why nobody even tries to summon a Caster to learn from.

I can think of one single exception, and that is Solomon from Apocrypha (the guy who invented golems, not the world-ending evil Solomon from Grand/Order). Solomon allows his master to watch him produce automatons and occasionally offers advice and wisdom to teach him, but this is also an inherently flawed process, as any heroic spirit Caster that does use modern thaumaturgy, like this one, is so far beyond modern magi that even if a master spent a lifetime learning from them, they'd barely scratch the surface of what they could theoretically learn.

This is an issue throughout mage society, even, since talent may vary between generations, and an untalented successor could end up failing to learn and pass on all the research his forebears created up to that point. That is why modern magi invented the mystic crest, which allows everything a former magi in a family has learned to be passed on without risk of loss.

If a Heroic Spirit Caster had a mystic crest (though we've never seen one have one), and their master happened to be compatible with it (though that would be virtually impossible due to the issues involved in sticking parts of Heroic Spirits onto a living mortal as outlined in Heaven's Feel), then yes, theoretically, a master could have that mystic crest transplanted onto them and learn everything that Caster knew.

Ethan Barnes
Ethan Barnes

mfw nobody likes Richy enough to update the wikia

Austin Hill
Austin Hill

But that's hard countered by my servant and his Unlimited Hammer Works.

Robert Allen
Robert Allen

But that master would not be able to share his discoveries with the rest of the magus community. In fact, the reason why families never share their research and secrets is because the more people know of and understand a higher mystery, the less powerful it becomes. This is the same effect of knowledge that caused the eventual decline and death of both the Age of Gods (prehistory, passed on only through legends like Heracles and Gilgamesh) and the Age of Magic (earliest known history through the fall of King Arthur's kingdom).

So in many ways, disseminating knowledge like how to produce crystals the way that ATLAS magus knew would only make such a method or process weaker until it ceases to function. It's why magi choose to be secret from the world at large, too.

Nicholas James
Nicholas James

Im going to summon the best servant

Brandon Taylor
Brandon Taylor

What happens when servant puts his phallus into his master?

Luis Robinson
Luis Robinson

That master wasn't a part of the Mage's Association, he's a member of ATLAS, the alchemy research organization based in the Middle East.
Just to straighten out the lore a bit, Atlas is part of the Magus Association.
The Magus Association is a confederacy between the Clock Tower, the Sea of Astray, and Atlas.

Christian Watson
Christian Watson

Yes. We shall stand together and cast down the great menace of our age.

Jose Fisher
Jose Fisher

So you are probably wondering "literally what is the point of magi even at all if they can't use their magecraft in the public eye without it becoming weaker?"

The reason they study the replication of miracles is because magi wish to find a path to the Root, and in so doing, obtain the power of one of the five known True Magics. A True Magic is not a simple mystery that can be learned or reproduced through learning; knowledge of it does not weaken it.

So magecraft is like a race against time; you have to find a path to the Root using the mysteries you know before someone else or humanity at large discovers the same mysteries and weakens them, or you die and have to leave the research to your successor (if you manage to produce one).

Unsurprisingly, nobody actually succeeds at this except people who are just fucking born with it like Zelretch and Aoko, the lucky motherfuckers.

Dominic James
Dominic James

FHA really made me appreciate Rider a hell lot more

Gavin Cox
Gavin Cox

Yeah sorry

Kayden Morris
Kayden Morris

before someone else or humanity at large discovers the same mysteries

But wouldn't it be better to take control of a media conglomerate and promote misconceptions and bad information or to support a jihad group and spread ignorance to buff your magecraft while collaborating with a select few people on the key research?

Blake Sanchez
Blake Sanchez

Since this is a fate thread anyway..

"I am the bone of my sword"
That doesn't even make any sense

And Archer and Shirou fight is fucking pointless
Huuur duuur I won't give even though my life will be full of nonsense suffering.
If my future self warned me about my future I'd probably listen to him.
Archer let ginger kid win because he remembers his conversation with kiritsugu about the hero of justice thing.

Jaxon Gutierrez
Jaxon Gutierrez

I'm fairly confident that is exactly what most magi do. Or, large and powerful magus families, at any rate. Even so, it's impossible for them to fully stymie the progress of science or other magi.

Parker Rodriguez
Parker Rodriguez

Assassin

Joseph Cox
Joseph Cox

I've never read Fate Strange fake tell about its plot or story and tell about Saber Lionheart is he badass or something?

Dylan Howard
Dylan Howard

Give up*

Dylan Robinson
Dylan Robinson

'm fairly confident that is exactly what most magi do.

I wouldn't be surprised.

it's impossible for them to fully stymie the progress of science or other magi.

So you don't try; if the number of people who understand a given thing is what's important, you're just trying to weight that down to minimize the harm, and slow devlopment long-run.

Heck, if I were a wealthy and powerful magus, I'd try to push Hungry Gaems imitators and other mass-consumption bad dystopian stuff, especially in the YA bracket and below. Make that part of an effort to make people, especially younger people, scared of science and technology and to question it's benefits to the human race. Then support Gender Studies programs to funnel people from learning to unlearning, start bombing expensive research facilities and fucking up R&D projects to drive up the cost involved, and... yeah.

Bonus points for starting a war between two sides with an enormous tech disparity, then making the high-tech side lose and making it look like it was because of their tech.

Kevin Clark
Kevin Clark

There's a chance that Kuzuki and Medea fucked, but that's because they're husband and wife. Past that, only Shinji took advantage of those command seals to get some action from Medusa a couple times

Christopher Cruz
Christopher Cruz

What would his NP be?

Grayson Hughes
Grayson Hughes

only Shinji took advantage of those command seals to get some action from Medusa a couple times
Holy shit is that canon? If Yes, What a fucking lucky guy.

Praise Based Shinji!

Jordan James
Jordan James

He's way more fit as a JoJo character than an Nasu character desu

Aaron Miller
Aaron Miller

YOU DIED
YOU DIED
YOU DIED
More like Avenger

Noah Rodriguez
Noah Rodriguez

Unlimited loan of a million blade works.

Liam Lopez
Liam Lopez

Sabe.... wait what

Adrian Perry
Adrian Perry

o yea brother

Benjamin Ortiz
Benjamin Ortiz

They did, he asked if she wanted it gentle or rough

Carter Ross
Carter Ross

but can she die if she´s killed?

Dylan Harris
Dylan Harris

Yeah, it's alluded to in one of the intermission scenes. I think it was in HF, but I don't know for sure

Hunter Parker
Hunter Parker

Nanoha characters would get double summons if they can desu.

Nanoha - Caster
Fate - Caster/Saber
Arf - Caster
Hayate - Caster
Signum - Saber/Caster
Vita - Berserker/Caster
Shamal - Caster
Zafira - Shielder
Yuuno - Caster/Shielder
Chrono - Caster/Lancer
Tiana - Archer/Caster
Subaru - Caster
Erio - Caster/Lancer
Caro - Caster

Carson Watson
Carson Watson

Why does SN's Rider have a dagger? And why does she almost never ride a mount?
She seems more like an assassin than a rider.

Leo Taylor
Leo Taylor

Signum is more like Archer/Saber.
Caro - Caster/Rider
Subaru -Caster/Rider (wing road)

Nicholas Fisher
Nicholas Fisher

Is Shinji the worst character in F:SN ?

Even Avenger ( a.k.a All the worlds evil ) restrained himself from raping Bazett.

Jeremiah Adams
Jeremiah Adams

Even Avenger ( a.k.a All the worlds evil ) restrained himself from raping Bazett.

She would kick his ass if he ever tried to.

Asher Barnes
Asher Barnes

Why does SN's Rider have a dagger?
She doesn't she has two giant nails.
And why does she almost never ride a mount?
Because it costs a lot of magical energy to maintain the Bellerophon bridle that controls Pegasus, as it is an A+ rank noble phantasm.
She can't use Pegasus without the bridle because Pegasus is a pacifistic little shit who just wants to eat sugar cubes.

Jacob Fisher
Jacob Fisher

Enjoy getting killed by your own servant

Aiden Stewart
Aiden Stewart

Why does she even have Pegasus? In the myth, Pegasus was born from the hole in her neck after her head was cut off.

Jayden Rodriguez
Jayden Rodriguez

Pegasi are an entire species of phantasmal beasts in Type-Moon, but it is true that one was born from her. Because she's its mother, she can call out to it with magecraft, and it answers her summons like a loyal child.

Isaac Flores
Isaac Flores

BRB gonna mana transfer.

Brayden Price
Brayden Price

Oh right, it's still survived to this day in one of the parts of the world that humans can no longer reach, right? It's described as being as old as the Age of the Gods itself, so that implies it's still alive when she summons it.

Xavier Gonzalez
Xavier Gonzalez

tell illya I had a good life with kiritsugu before killing her

Over the fucking line

Ryan Jones
Ryan Jones

Don't bother, I already won.

Michael Wood
Michael Wood

But user, Roland is such a bitch boy that he killed himself blowing his own horn!

Aiden Murphy
Aiden Murphy

lewd!

Ryder Powell
Ryder Powell

Caster. I give her plenty of mana for the first few days so she can use her high cost explosion magic

Jayden Rodriguez
Jayden Rodriguez

Count Roland has laid himself down beneath a pine tree and has turned his face towards Spain. He began to call many things to mind: the many lands he had conquered, sweet France, and the men of his lineage, and Charlemaine, his lord, who nurtured him. His head was resting on his arm and his hands were clasped, and thus he went to his end. God sent down his angel Cherubin and St. Michel du Peril; with them came St. Gabriel, and they carry the soul of the count to Paradise.

Nice try filthy albion, if you lie again I'll summon Guillaume the conqueror and you fags will talk a latin language again.

Grayson Cox
Grayson Cox

This is all after he blew out a chunk of his own brain by blowing on that horn too hard. You can't escape the truth no matter how slimy you are, frog.

Luke Johnson
Luke Johnson

a chance that Kuzuki and Medea fucked, but that's because they're husband and wife
Medea asked him to replenish her mana when they first met.

Matthew Rivera
Matthew Rivera

And? He didn't die and certainly not like a bitch and before that he was already mortally wounded, that just means he has battle continuation EX since he decided when and where he would die. Fucking pakis always twisting facts, the only bitch here is you.

Hudson Taylor
Hudson Taylor

Friendly reminder that Kariya was the bad guy all along.

Josiah Flores
Josiah Flores

battle continuation EX
pakis
twisting facts

Hunter Morgan
Hunter Morgan

fuck you senpai

Carson Gray
Carson Gray

Thanks for answering my question on using Caster in the holy grail war for research porpoises.

Next question? would it be possible for a magus' path to the root to involve just stealing the magic crests of pre-existing families. Is that the Mages Association is doing with the Emiya time crest and what not or more of a one time use of those family laws?

Liam Lopez
Liam Lopez

would it be possible for a magus' path to the root to involve just stealing the magic crests of pre-existing families. Is that the Mages Association is doing with the Emiya time crest
That is essentially what the Magus Association is doing with everyone who receives a Sealing Designation ever, pretty much.
"We think you're close to the root, so we're going to capture you and use you for our own purposes" is basically what a sealing designation means.

David Powell
David Powell

Not only close to the root, strange or unique magic owner recieve Sealing Designation too. If they ever learn that Shirou has a Reality Marble he is prettu much fucked.

Andrew Davis
Andrew Davis

But I don't have one!

Ian Watson
Ian Watson

Underrated post desu

Cameron Kelly
Cameron Kelly

When I asked this question I was thinking of Heinrich Zepter, from Kiri Emiya Magus hunting days. Since his family perfected organ/ body mods through flesh research, could his family have theoretically stolen magic circuits without fear of rejection or does it have some soul resonance components?

Carter Collins
Carter Collins

There are some difficulties in transplanting magic crests to people who are not members of the family. It can even result in death. The only truly safe means of doing so is to transplant it to a descendant of the lineage at an early age. The older a recipient is when the crest is implanted, the riskier it is.

It's not impossible that someone would do that, but the larger issue is that the research of one family will rarely be easily melded with the research of another, since they could be based on entirely different Foundations (giant rituals upon which all formal magecraft is founded), with their own axioms that are incompatible.

Another issue is that most magi only have one element and origin that they have an affinity for, and elements do run in families. There are also bloodline traits, like the McRemitz ability to use Fragarach and ancient runes. Not having the proper element or bloodline traits may render an entire lineage's crest useless to anyone not born of that lineage.

And, of course, it is not so simple to steal a magic crest, since that would require sneaking into or assaulting a magus family residence, which means you're going to be meeting them within their own bounded field and them having homefield advantage as well as complete access to their own equipment and materials. It is also, most likely, illegal within the Mage Association.

To be more specific, there are two kinds of Sealing Designations. The first means that 'we're going to let you do your own thing, but we're watching you, shitbag,' which is the kind that was placed on the Emiya family.

The other is the one where they send Enforcers to either kill or capture the mage and confiscate their research. It's a proper witch hunt.

Which they issue on a given heretic magus depends entirely on the threat their research poses to the secrecy of the magus world, how close the research is to actually successfully reaching the Root, and various political factors.

Zachary Reed
Zachary Reed

file name

Jackson Morgan
Jackson Morgan

Guys I tried to summon a god but I fucked up, she keeps whining about being hungry and drank all of my beer, she's puking everywhere, guys help

Cooper Butler
Cooper Butler

Why don't masters and servants fuck more often?
It's like Saber and Casters are the only ones that ever have.

Adam Ramirez
Adam Ramirez

Hnnnnnng

Caleb Smith
Caleb Smith

What kind of servant would Guts be?

Charles Baker
Charles Baker

Literally Berserker, or Avenger.

Hudson Parker
Hudson Parker

Probably qualifies for Saber due to high stats and sword skill, but also Berserker due to the mad rage he has pent up inside.

Brayden Miller
Brayden Miller

Gee I wonder

Lincoln Wright
Lincoln Wright

Berserker, for crazy awesome with the armor version

Saber for the band of the hawk version

Chase Richardson
Chase Richardson

I forgot Avengers exist, but I totally see it, for the branded swordsman version pre berserk armor.

Nathaniel Wood
Nathaniel Wood

ITT ayy

Noah Russell
Noah Russell

My cute caster.

Evan Rogers
Evan Rogers

While I don't really like the idea of Caster being literary writers.
How modern do you think they could go to?
J RR Tolken
G RR Martin
Terry Pratchett
Since the idea of being is supposed to be something that no-one else could do. Which explains the decreasing stats of the modern heroes compared the ancient.

Levi Brooks
Levi Brooks

You can't fucking kill him.

Isaiah Morris
Isaiah Morris

As an addendum would George Lucas, Micheal Bay etc be able to count as well?

Chase Rodriguez
Chase Rodriguez

Border wall; restricts movement of the target, saps their mana to use it. He'll build a wall, and they'll pay for it.

Tyler Wright
Tyler Wright

That was a good read
Fucking combat medics man.

Josiah Sanchez
Josiah Sanchez

A local Dindunuffin and his Gimmedat ally

Alexander Jones
Alexander Jones

Definitely not Berserker, maybe Caster or Assassin

Andrew Rodriguez
Andrew Rodriguez

Snipers will always fall under the archer category right?

David Wood
David Wood

dirty red is best red

Nathaniel Diaz
Nathaniel Diaz

I doubt any of those would fit. Hans Christian Andersen barely fits and Lewis Carroll didn't even make the mark (his stories wound together to make "Alice" [Nursery Rhyme] though).
Alexandre Dumas only gets in on a fake war and even then only because he apparently wrote a legend that goes beyond mythology and speaks to the human condition. Tolkien's works are basically just artificial mythology, you'd probably get Aragorn before you get Tolkien.

Blake Robinson
Blake Robinson

Every Texan qualifies as a servant

Facct

Luis Rogers
Luis Rogers

or assassin given the role of snipers in warfare

Hunter Miller
Hunter Miller

So how come no one has ever had to resort to killing their own servant for the grail?
Every time it shows up only 5 or 6 servants have been killed.

James Martinez
James Martinez

Because nobody even remembers the whole point anymore. The closest we get to it is Ilya commanding Berserker to kill himself at the end of Berserker's route in Fate/Unlimited Codes. He tears his own heart out and crushes it with his bare hands, without her even needing to use a command seal. Since he already killed all the other servants, with his death, Ilya is able to complete the Heaven's Feel ritual.

Liam Smith
Liam Smith

If you haven't noticed by now, the Grail War in general is a convoluted mess, corrupted or not

Joshua Murphy
Joshua Murphy

It depends on what kind of wish is intended to be granted. The pure prana of 4 servants is enough to grant most ordinary, 'easy' wishes, IIRC, like wishing to be wealthy or just to cause mass destruction. For every servant after that, more and more is possible to accomplish. To perform the Heaven's Feel, all seven servants must die.

Blake Young
Blake Young

I always laugh that one of the founders is still alive (Zouken Matou) and despite having forgot and being insane, even he steers clear of the entire mess.

Lincoln Clark
Lincoln Clark

Did Ilya reaching Heaven's Feel in that context backfire horribly? Or was that an instance where it worked out all fine and dandy?

Jaxson Taylor
Jaxson Taylor

We don't know. All the known requirements for the Heaven's Feel were met - all the servants were dead, Ilya was wearing the Dress of Heaven, and seemed to be fairly intent on doing it properly. We know Angra Mainyu cannot be born through her, since she's like literally perfect as a Grail, so basically there's no reason why it shouldn't have worked.

But the ending ends as Berserker's consciousness fades, so we'll probably never know just what the result of the Heaven's Feel would be.

Aiden Williams
Aiden Williams

Caster.

Josiah Barnes
Josiah Barnes

Why are there no African servants?

Oliver Evans
Oliver Evans

I'll assume your ignoring the Egyptians and King Solomon for good reasons.

Otherwise our countrymen aren't really known in the wider world, apart from Shaka Zulu.

Always wanted some sort of tokoloshe type caster/ assassin.

Samuel Long
Samuel Long

why do i find this so funny

Nicholas Ward
Nicholas Ward

Rider

Aaron Reed
Aaron Reed

I would summon Saladin, I don't know what role he would actually fit though.

Hunter Jones
Hunter Jones

Salad?

Lincoln Jones
Lincoln Jones

That's easy. Humanity turns into eusocial species like bees, and does everthing possible to avoid conflict. Of course this results in humanity dying off or total stagnation/regression - possibly triggering Alaya to send Counter Guards to stop you from wishing that, but oh well.

Adrian Barnes
Adrian Barnes

Rider, due to Arabian horses.Almost like Iskander, but with a NP more like Vlad is declaring an area 'holy land' and being able to defend it like a king.

Evan Lewis
Evan Lewis

Assassin, but a shitty one.

Jacob Robinson
Jacob Robinson

What would he even be?

Brandon Thompson
Brandon Thompson

Savior

Benjamin Perez
Benjamin Perez

I'll assume your ignoring the Egyptians and King Solomon for good reasons.

But they're not Black. Unless you believe the Kangs crowd.

Anthony Garcia
Anthony Garcia

Not all African are black.

Caleb Allen
Caleb Allen

Solomon didn't even live in Africa.

Logan Cox
Logan Cox

that's a cute girl

Ian Kelly
Ian Kelly

that's a cute girl
user, I'm sorry.

Tyler Roberts
Tyler Roberts

all this 'maybe kuzuki and medea fucked'
all these secondaries
fucking hell

Mason Parker
Mason Parker

It's canon that they fucked, he is not a magus and she needed mana.

Bentley Bennett
Bentley Bennett

It's the 'maybe' what I'm on about. It's pretty fucking explicit that they fucked.

Jonathan Taylor
Jonathan Taylor

my peepee tingled

Gavin Cruz
Gavin Cruz

And now ?

Jose King
Jose King

AWAKEN MY SERVANT

Daniel Bell
Daniel Bell

Katsura = Ruler
Sakamoto = Rider
Takatsugi = Berserker
Gintoki = Saber

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