Haifuri

Jace Moore
Jace Moore

Episode 5 in 4 hours, subs in 5.5.

PV: https://0x0.st/NjZ.mp4

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https://0x0.st/NjZ.mp4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akizuki-class_destroyer_%282010%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter_Rocket,_Artillery,_and_Mortar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlpx4DMGzYI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_46_torpedo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_48_torpedo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSSgvLOCFU0
https://warshipphilosophy.wordpress.com/2013/05/29/modern-warship-armor-part-2/
Bentley Ross
Bentley Ross

They appear to not have enough SoL footage to actually put them in the preview. So it looks like we will have combat.

Benjamin Hill
Benjamin Hill

I think they are finally trying to drop the pretense of no combat happening, since they've already done it for the four previous episodes.

That or they're actually still fooling us with most of the episode focusing on relaxation time on the Harekaze.

Eli Torres
Eli Torres

Munetani-san is cute.

Xavier Gomez
Xavier Gomez

Swimsuits.

Jayden Morris
Jayden Morris

Best girl.

Eli Butler
Eli Butler

Why is Mike so exited?

Dylan Hughes
Dylan Hughes

What the hell, the AA gun ports are welded over?

If no planes then why even put the turrets there in the first place.

Logan Turner
Logan Turner

The Great Balloon War

Adrian Flores
Adrian Flores

What do you mean? The 25mm turrets appear to still have guns, while the little knobs without guns on the mast structure are actually various flavors of rangefinders and fire control directors for the AA.

Michael Ortiz
Michael Ortiz

Girls, it's been a long war, it's been a tough war. You've fought bravely, proudly for your country. You're a special group. You've found in one another a bond that exists only in combat, among sisters. You've shared cabins, held each other in dire moments. You've seen death and suffered together. I'm proud to have served with each and every one of you. You all deserve long and happy lives in peace.

Dylan Bailey
Dylan Bailey

Why is Mike so exited?
Because Moka's going to die.

Josiah Lopez
Josiah Lopez

No one will die in Haifuri.

Angel Allen
Angel Allen

Every day until we like it?

Austin Cox
Austin Cox

When this series is over, you should start making daily threads with this.

Nicholas Carter
Nicholas Carter

rats got on men ship

Mason Nelson
Mason Nelson

Not necessarily. The Harekaze was announced to be a mutinous ship at that point and that they had attacked two other ships.

Oliver Carter
Oliver Carter

The rats did get on the men ships this episode.

Anthony Scott
Anthony Scott

He's talking about the latest episode which indeed had rats on the men's ship.

Gabriel Mitchell
Gabriel Mitchell

Mike in casual clothing is surprisingly cute.

Kayden Harris
Kayden Harris

Cutest couple.

Lucas Brooks
Lucas Brooks

If this show doesn't end with a kiss, I'd be so disappointed

Luis Russell
Luis Russell

Enjoy your Moka screentime. You won't see her again till the end.

Julian Evans
Julian Evans

I enjoyed every second of it.

Oliver Morgan
Oliver Morgan

OTP

Nolan Rodriguez
Nolan Rodriguez

Will Mike visit Moka in prison when she's jailed for leading an attack on an entire fleet?

Juan Brooks
Juan Brooks

cats hunt mind control mice
cats are immune to mice mind control
haifuri girls become catgirls to combat mind control

Landon Gutierrez
Landon Gutierrez

Fund it.

Hudson Howard
Hudson Howard

Since when did she join the crew? Is everyone on the german ship dead or won't deal with her anymore?

Ethan Butler
Ethan Butler

So since the mice can perform a jamming to electronic equipment, it's safe to say this whole accident isn't natural right.

Alien ?
American biological weapon ?

Parker Campbell
Parker Campbell

They all got space hamstered

Ryan Watson
Ryan Watson

Shiro yelled some sense into Mike
she still left the ship
Why is Mike such a shitty captain? We should throw her out and have Wilgelmina or Shiro take her place.

Grayson Martinez
Grayson Martinez

Plot armor thicker than the Yamato

Grayson Robinson
Grayson Robinson

Why do you think she got the worst assignment in the fleet? She is a terrible captain.

Chase Fisher
Chase Fisher

She's literally the Schettino of the navy.

William Cruz
William Cruz

Schettino left when his own ship started to sink.

Levi Price
Levi Price

It's clearly Lockheed Martin

Cameron Collins
Cameron Collins

Is that the man that left when he ran his cruise ship aground?

Jordan King
Jordan King

Yes.

He decided to go near an island to greet the islanders.
Ran ship aground.
Left his ship.
Called his mom from the lifeboat.
Told officials he fell off the boat.
Refused to go back after the maritime officials ordered him to go back.
Got 16 years of prison.

Landon Ortiz
Landon Ortiz

Macchi make me as your bride.

Zachary Perry
Zachary Perry

She left her ship before it started to sink AND sank before it

Landon Scott
Landon Scott

I'm not entirely sure I like the direction this show is going.

Brandon Wilson
Brandon Wilson

Reminder that she's a ikemen and that, unless you are a girl, liking her is gay.

Carter Jenkins
Carter Jenkins

girls got men in the rigging

Luis Watson
Luis Watson

Oh yes.

Landon Gonzalez
Landon Gonzalez

she is turning 16?

Easton Rogers
Easton Rogers

This episode only reinforced my top furi. Especially Coco and Brown Sugar bonding over yakuza movies
If liking Macchi is gay I don't want to be straight.

Eli Ramirez
Eli Ramirez

Don't you have some accounting to do?

Ryan Anderson
Ryan Anderson

Yes, accounting for the wedding budget.

Joshua Jenkins
Joshua Jenkins

The magic hamsters are really disappointing. This could have been fantastic with an interesting plot. The harekaze getting let off the hook so easily was disappointing too, I wanted to see them fight all the way back to school.

Liam Miller
Liam Miller

I don't know why I find this so hilarious.

Ian Flores
Ian Flores

It is God telling her that homosexuality is a sin and that she will burn in hell for it.

Luis Russell
Luis Russell

I know they're probably just going to forgive her but I hope they reject her as captain for a while. I would seriously hesitate to trust my captain if they said what she said out loud.

Kayden Rodriguez
Kayden Rodriguez

But Shiro will win the Mikebowl. God is just telling them this particular pairing is shit.

Colton Ward
Colton Ward

not liking magic hamsters
Fucking casuals...

Bentley Lopez
Bentley Lopez

expect GuP
get Saving Private Moka

Kayden Jenkins
Kayden Jenkins

I was hoping for the hamster to be just a lost test subject that had the virus, and wasn't the main vessel to spread the disease. Then that scene of them scurrying around on top of the instructor ship happened, and I lost hope. It is easily the worst part of the show.

Charles Jenkins
Charles Jenkins

Magic hamsters is the only somewhat original thing in the entire anime and I hope they double down on it.

Christopher Morgan
Christopher Morgan

Shiro will win the Mikebowl

Daniel Parker
Daniel Parker

Who the fuck knows? 5 episodes in this looks like another one of those Aniplex backed shows where how it's being marketed seems to be the biggest consideration for the project over what actually happens in the show and how it develops. They probably don't even know themselves yet and the show is starting to seem like it's throwing every checklist dart it possibly can at the board to see what sticks and if it can still rope in the GuP audience. What this show really needed was somebody behind it that actually cared enough about the genre and hammering out a clear sort of genre and concept appeal of it's own like GuP and Arpeggio had but nope. I just hope GuP and/or Arpeggio can manage to land another season soon. IMO it's probably actually hurting it's preorders early on because any potential moeblob fans don't want to buy a show where their waifu might get killed and military fans don't just want to buy a show where that barely gets any consideration in the long run so hiding the premise keeps both from pre-ordering early. It's not like it doesn't have potential, it's just kind of badly marketed and confusing people

Nathan Carter
Nathan Carter

I want to touch her torikaji ippais

Anthony Jenkins
Anthony Jenkins

Would you rather have a virus like the Homeworld: Catalysm beast infesting the ships, or magical space hamsters?

Gabriel Gonzalez
Gabriel Gonzalez

The worst part is that they named "Admiral Graf Spee" as "Admiral Spee" and named Willi after the most incompetent admiral in the Imperial Navy

Nicholas Mitchell
Nicholas Mitchell

original doesn't necessarily mean good

James Price
James Price

Mike doesn't deserve to be captain. That place belongs to Shiro.

Christopher Sanchez
Christopher Sanchez

Yeah, created by what looks like a pharmaceutical company called the Abyss. Real original there.

Brandon Miller
Brandon Miller

Is "ikemen girl" an actual thing in anime? I don't think I've ever seen that. Mostly they are referred as "prince-type" or just bull dyke.

Ethan Ortiz
Ethan Ortiz

I am not sure if I got the reference.

William Scott
William Scott

can someone post the webm of that other "looks like she's being fucked" haifuri?

William Young
William Young

pharmaceutical company called the Abyss
Abyss is a delivery company you idiot.

Wyatt Ward
Wyatt Ward

What about Hinamizawa Syndrome on the boats? Or small bombs.

Ian Lee
Ian Lee

I am Ok with that. But there are no roofs to fight on, and no meat cleavers. And no Nippa.

Joshua Ramirez
Joshua Ramirez

You mean this?

Tyler Hill
Tyler Hill

Anybody else see anything wrong with this picture?

Austin Lopez
Austin Lopez

Her bad luck will make the ship sink.

Sebastian Wood
Sebastian Wood

Whoops, wrong one

Luis Collins
Luis Collins

So what if a girl wants to wear cat ears?

Joshua Jackson
Joshua Jackson

As user have said

Carson Lopez
Carson Lopez

Not even Haifuri's alternate reality was spared the Bluetooth Douchebag Headset

Landon Miller
Landon Miller

Cat ears.

Joshua Price
Joshua Price

Do not lewd the Rin!

Samuel Edwards
Samuel Edwards

/a/thread/141203147#p141222169
I've only played GalCiv 2 but the difference is that you can actually control your ships during battles in SotS.
The semi-randomized nature of the tech tree also keeps things fresh enough.
The downsides though are that diplomacy is extremely simplistic compared to other 4Xs and certain DLC races cause memory leaks if they're ingame long enough.

Hunter King
Hunter King

FOUR EARS

Adrian Baker
Adrian Baker

Arpeggio

Probably never. The anime had a ton of original content and basically complete diverged from the manga story, and it's wasn't very well received.

Christopher Rogers
Christopher Rogers

Man, I want someone to slap Mike in the face from abandoning the ship. Your crew man, of course they're more important than your fellow soccer mate which you've never seen in three years.

Robert White
Robert White

But that won't happen.

That's why this whole 'cute girls doing not at all cute things' craze needs to end.

William Gonzalez
William Gonzalez

Gonne be honest senpaitachi, I wish I was friend with every single Hai-Furi

Andrew Ramirez
Andrew Ramirez

It will. It's mutiny time.

Connor Roberts
Connor Roberts

I'd clean the toilets with my bare hands if I could serve aboard the ship and have my lesbian adventures.

Charles Howard
Charles Howard

Someone please make the I came here to laugh edit. I'll be eternally grateful.

Xavier Rivera
Xavier Rivera

thanks

Carson Robinson
Carson Robinson

Ahhh. Good to know. Will try it out!

Leo Baker
Leo Baker

Shit, man. I thought this was just a coincidence, like a piece of the background being drawn in just right, but cat ears are well and truly confirmed for brawl.

Bentley Cook
Bentley Cook

No problemo

Jeremiah Lee
Jeremiah Lee

True. I bet this bitch hates Mike because she loves Shiro, so she will try to get rid off of Mike, make Shiro the captain and she herself will become the deputy captain.

Wyatt Roberts
Wyatt Roberts

What did she mean by this?

Zachary Lewis
Zachary Lewis

TORIKAJI IPPAI

Jacob Richardson
Jacob Richardson

TORIKAJI OPPAI

Jaxson Robinson
Jaxson Robinson

She rightfully hates Mike because she's an awful captain and Shiro deserves to have her spot. If Shiro was in charge they wouldn't be in this mess.

Brayden Parker
Brayden Parker

So how did I not notice that

Jackson Lopez
Jackson Lopez

Maybe the cat ears are a device that protects from being brain controlled by the hamsters.

Or just hair decoration that looks cute.

Asher Allen
Asher Allen

Sounds retarded enough to be true

William Brooks
William Brooks

Shiro is fully capable of doing that. Like, what about "this is my ship now, you gave it to me, remember?". And Mike will back down, being mellow and shit, then Shiro will slap her in the face to get her shit straight. Ship captain has 100x more responsibility weight than a fucking tank commander. If a tank destroyed, 3 ~ 6 people will die max. If a ship is destroyed, more than 100 people will die or 30 people in Hrekaze case.

Camden Allen
Camden Allen

Or just hair decoration that looks stupid.

Colton Morales
Colton Morales

Right, I'm saying that it happening would violate the conventions of the CGDCT genere, and thus saying it could happen and should happen, but won't.

Jeremiah Clark
Jeremiah Clark

Shiro is fully capable of doing that. Like, what about "this is my ship now, you gave it to me, remember?". And Mike will back down, being mellow and shit, then Shiro will slap her in the face to get her shit straight.

Jeremiah Allen
Jeremiah Allen

You're right. If Shiro's the captain, then the Harekaze wouldn't even be afloat!

Elijah Brown
Elijah Brown

The instructor was mind-controlled and wasn't aiming to kill.

Samuel Parker
Samuel Parker

danke schön!

Luis Taylor
Luis Taylor

Being in command of a destroyer brings you the same sort of responsibility as being a tank company's commander.
Still, I expect Mashiro to take command, and only to get the girls nearly killed in a firefight because she sucks as a battlefield commander. Mashiro is a good career officer though.

Hudson James
Hudson James

It has to be part of the headset that you can see on her left cheek. Why it's cat ears is anyone's guess.

Elijah Wright
Elijah Wright

The Musashi wankery this episode when it was in
reality a useless overdeveloped resource sink

A modern cruiser, which is what it seemed the boy's school ships were using, could have taken the Musashi out from way out of her effective range with missiles.

Misaki abandoning her entire crew, the people who she's been given the responsibility to keep alive, to save one person on another ship.

She is unfit to lead. Even Tama would be a better captain.

Shooting the Musashi's shells out of the air

I can suspend my disbelief to a certain point, but I'm supposed to believe that Tama was able to accurately predict the trajectory of a shell moving at over a mile per second and adjust the Harekaze's firing angle to intercept it in under 10 seconds using nothing but binoculars? I'm sorry, but even a modern computer couldn't do that let alone an autistic child.

Christian Adams
Christian Adams

Harekaze wouldn't even be afloat!

By all rights, they shouldn't be. The Reichboat should have sent them to bottom without trouble, and the submarine crew didn't seem to be trying.

Also, that was a Japanese sub. Shouldn't they be using Glorious Nippon Oxygen Torpedoes folded more than a thousand times to produce no bubble trail?

Chase Jones
Chase Jones

No bubble trail doesn't mean you don't leave a trail. It's just that you are much harder to detect until rather up close, although why they aren't using the oxygen torp is beyond me.

Cooper Sullivan
Cooper Sullivan

Did you miss the part that all the boy's ships were firing 'training rounds'? They weren't trying to blow the Musashi up, they were trying to make it stop. I'm pretty sure any WW2 BB could give no fucks about a bunch of glorified metal tubes hitting it's hull.

Brody Nelson
Brody Nelson

Can you hear the sound of a hardcore localizationfag crying, because someone directly mentioned one of the things he localized previously? Isn't it beautiful how he suffers after being forced to leave something in Japanese for the sake of making sense?

Evan Foster
Evan Foster

Who let the maniac back on the bridge? She's shooting again in no time!

Hudson Clark
Hudson Clark

You should've been in the last thread. Now I have to say it to you again.
Their FCS is digital. The eyeball rangefinder isn't doing the hard task. Tama was good, but the ship's using modern surface radar to make that hard kill happen; the rangefinder is only responsible to check the elevation and training of the turrets.

Josiah Sullivan
Josiah Sullivan

In before he localizes it further anyways because he is too butthurt

Austin Anderson
Austin Anderson

Exactly. Even if they don't have missiles, the rapid-fire gun (76mm? 5 inch?), while not able to penetrate the Musashi's belt armor, would be able to trash everything above the waterline - optics, radar, secondaries - and probably burn it down with sustained fire.

Wyatt King
Wyatt King

She's shooting again in no time!
She already did.

Daniel Gonzalez
Daniel Gonzalez

But if they have the mechanical ability to fire with that kind of precision and computers fast enough to compute and plot the shots, it should be standard tactics.

Luis Ross
Luis Ross

There are rats on the boy ships! :O
Also, why are there boy ships? I thought the whole blue mermaid thing was because they couldn't have ships captained by men because of the treaty yet here they are being captains.

Here's some action for ya

Kevin Martin
Kevin Martin

And she did it while the captain was away! What did she mean by this?

Grayson Peterson
Grayson Peterson

"Why do you use Euros instead of Nippons in Germany?"
Koko becomes a day trader instead of a gangster and boasts about shorting sivalley startups

Camden Hall
Camden Hall

If it hasn't been mentioned yet, these are Akizuki guided missile destroyers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akizuki-class_destroyer_%282010%29

Jace Hill
Jace Hill

Koko becomes a day trader instead of a gangster
She's gonna have millions or even billions of Zimbabwe dollars.

Sebastian Gonzalez
Sebastian Gonzalez

:O
Don't do this shit.

Nathan Myers
Nathan Myers

Then why, when their reinforcements arrived, did they continue to use those same useless torpedoes? And why don't they have any better weapons? Even if It's a training ship they should have something as a backup. I mean even the Harekaze had a real depth charge and live ammo.

Also, when the Harekaze used her training torpedo it completely incapacitated the instructor ship They seem to gave more than a bang.

Cameron Brown
Cameron Brown

Also, why are there boy ships? I thought the whole blue mermaid thing

This is a good question - maybe for the real navy everyone pretends not to have, or for the Orbital Forces?

Owen Torres
Owen Torres

Probably some ship for training and checking the subs. So is someone in the boys camp behind the rats?

Eli Howard
Eli Howard

I don't know why you quoted my post since what you said had literally nothing to do with what I said. Rangefinders and computers doesn't change the fact that the boy's ships were firing dummy rounds because they didn't want to blow up the Musashi.

Joseph Green
Joseph Green

Imagine the Haifuri world with airplanes and add the electronics jamming rodents to the equation. That world's airline industry would collapse within a day after all those rat induced plane crashes.

Evan Cook
Evan Cook

Well, it's not, because a WW2 destroyer is not really expected to use their primary armament this way. If it were the 5" on the AEGIS destroyer though, then it by all means would be used in such a role.
Even if the 10cm/65 was designed for anti-air role, it was definitely incapable of intercepting incoming rounds using mark 0 eyeballs.

Cooper Gonzalez
Cooper Gonzalez

!
Or this

Justin Mitchell
Justin Mitchell

Also, why are there boy ships?
They are from the boys' school.

Carson Watson
Carson Watson

Except they were intentionally going out of their way NOT to fuck over the Musashi. If they wanted to sink her they'd probably just sit outside her firing range and lob missiles at her. The whole point is the training ships were firing dummy rounds in an attempt to stop the Musashi, not light it on fire and kill the crew.

Josiah Bell
Josiah Bell

Well this is what live ammo an Akizuki class destroyer has.

Torpedoes on modern destroyers that aren't training rounds only have a 100 lb max warhead usually. Baby tier in comparison to 600 lb+ warheads of modern submarines and WW2. Since torpedoes on DDs are relegated for anti-submarine warfare.

Their anti-ship missiles seemed to be EMP jammed becaused hamster stuff. The only real chance is to continuously pepper the superstructure of the Musashi with their 76mm gun.

Also firing on a aluminum hull LCS vs. an armored WW2 Yamato class BB is quite a change.

Camden Harris
Camden Harris

Don't underestimate autistics children

Jack Ortiz
Jack Ortiz

You underestimate airplanes` ability to operate without electronics stuff.

Juan Reyes
Juan Reyes

The other girl who holds the recording device isn't rocking any cat ears. Rejecting the innocent hair decoration theory because that would be boring, here is some speculah:
The device merely detects mice (going hand in hand with the fact that it resembles ears), so it's only necessary for one of the pair to wear it
Alternately, the device works against mice in a certain radius, so it's enough to equip one of the pair if they stick together. The girls actually stick together whenever we see them, so it's plausible.
When departing the ship, the girl puts a hat over the cat ears. This means the cat ears are either irrelevant at this point (no longer interrogating? abovedeck?) or not inhibited by the hat.

Xavier Nguyen
Xavier Nguyen

Why do training schiffe even carry live ammo? You don't give truppen live and blank ammo in a live fire excercise..

John Powell
John Powell

There are pilots who cannot fly even with all of the assistive electronics. Imagine what would happen when you took those away.

Dominic Gonzalez
Dominic Gonzalez

Most modern planes are fly-by-wire, they can't operated without electronics no matter how much you want to. And some military planes are so instable they will crash in the minute their electronic switches off.

Brody Butler
Brody Butler

Do you have any idea how hard it is to hit a tiny fast moving object with another tiny fast moving object? It's almost impossibly hard. I don't care how good their fcs ism it literally can't be that good.

Also, in the episode 1 threads when people were speculating why the instructor ship was missing, there were tons of people like you saying that even 5% accuracy for naval warfare is amazing. So which is it, is their FCS amazingly accurate beyond current science, or is it amazingly inaccurate like it was 4 episodes ago? You can't have both?

Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward

When you are taking fire, that is no longer your mission. The crew of the enemy vessel is cute girls does not diminish your responsibility to your ship and crew, even if they are merely male extras.

Brody Ortiz
Brody Ortiz

Brazilians

Well, there's your problem.

Andrew Ramirez
Andrew Ramirez

That dialogue
It's like straight out of a comedy sketch, how unfortunate.

Leo Morris
Leo Morris

The Harekaze doesn't have live ammunition. Every single weapon they have is 'training'. Their shells are basically dummy rounds, their depth charges have massively weakened yields and their torpedoes have weak yields as well.

The entire point is that these ships can't pose much of a threat. Why do you think modern destroyers that have paper-thin armor are tanking 18 inch shells and not going down? The Musashi, like the Harekaze, only has training rounds.

I don't know if the instructor ships get live ammunition or not, but so far the Harekaze (and thus the Musashi by extension) has no live ammunition whatsoever. Everything is gimped to do a little damage to another ship and not much more. Hence why a submarine took a depth charge to the face and showed no signs of damage.

Liam Sullivan
Liam Sullivan

76mm gun.

It's a 127mm, and with the rate of fire either would have, that's hardly out of the question, especially is they retreated to the range where the Musushu's range would suffer.

Wyatt Nelson
Wyatt Nelson

I hope my last words will be more dignified than that

Nathaniel Sanchez
Nathaniel Sanchez

Why is this character even female when it has girls listing for her cock.

Logan Sullivan
Logan Sullivan

If she wasn't female, she'd be spotting ships from a submarine.

Benjamin Williams
Benjamin Williams

Yeah, but we don't build our aircraft on the assumption that impossible things (like Luddite Field Mice) will happen.

Brody Wilson
Brody Wilson

Sorry, but these males extras don't want to kill students.

Ayden Wood
Ayden Wood

If they're dummy rounds why, when fighting the Admiral Spee, did the captain specifically say unlocking live ammo? Even if that wasn't the case, the Musashi clearly does have live ammo judging by all the explosions this episode. Stoppulling "facts" out of your ass.

Chase Perry
Chase Perry

I mean electronics like glass cockpit, radio beacons and all that. Mice doesn`t seem to affect wiring anyway.
Doesn`t mean good pilots wont be able to save the day.
such a dumb cunt

Jaxon Kelly
Jaxon Kelly

The Harekaze doesn't have live ammunition
Stop being a retard. Did you already forget the episode when Mike and Shiro pulled their keys to use live ammo?

Elijah Gomez
Elijah Gomez

Not true. The training vessels do carry a certain number of live rounds. Harekaze used such against the Spee.

Only something akin to AEGIS combat system has a real chance of using projectile to achieve such a hard kill. The weapon system has to engage the gun FCS and activate the guns for something like this to happen. It's not beyond current science to make this hard kill happen. It's not doable on analog director with eyeball fire directors though.

It is true that 5% is considered good back in ww2, but that's not excusable for a modern FCS such as the Sarushima to do that badly. Is it a case of ECCM rats onboard fucking her up there? Maybe, considering what happened to the ASROCs in this episode.

Ian Green
Ian Green

You don't give truppen live and blank ammo in a live fire excercise
Maybe it doesn't live up to German safety standards, at least for the post-war era, but it can and should be done in times of very high alert, for example if actual combat could take place right in the middle of the exercise.

Matthew Ross
Matthew Ross

This episode just had way to many logic, plot, and judgement holes to be in any way enjoyable.

Misaki is the worst fucking captain ever to abandon her crew like that. She deserves a fucking court martial.

Charles Evans
Charles Evans

It's not beyond current science to make this hard kill happen.
On paper, maybe. Is there any example of this actually happening in real life?

Evan Jenkins
Evan Jenkins

Misaki is the worst fucking captain ever to abandon her crew like that. She deserves a fucking court martial.

This desu. She started off really strong, but now she's forgotten the very thing that made her a good captain to save her gf.

Leo Butler
Leo Butler

It's not beyond current science to make this hard kill happen

Yes, though you still what the ability to throw a lot of rounds and work the averages.

It's capable of anti-air and anti-missile work, though missiles are preferred for both tasks.

I don't think anyone has tested it against naval artillery, though, because that's not really a thing anymore.

Leo Taylor
Leo Taylor

That seems to already be in the works.

Elijah Barnes
Elijah Barnes

She deserves a fucking court martial.

Nope, cute girls.

Anthony Reyes
Anthony Reyes

Kouko a cute.

Joseph Parker
Joseph Parker

Strictly speaking, the 10cm/65 could throw enough. It was able to manage 15rpm in ww2, 19 rounds in theory (but restricted due to the ejection mechanism being too slow to cope with that rof)
I would assume it would easily do better than that here.

Robert Miller
Robert Miller

Just noticed Musashi still retains some of their Type 96/25mm guns.

There are have been multiple accounts of CRAM systems intercepting artillery and mortar shells especially in regard to conflicts in the Middle East. You can also ask the Israelis for a good chunk of intercept occurrences.

Justin Nguyen
Justin Nguyen

The fuck? Using ASROC's against a surface ship?

Henry Ramirez
Henry Ramirez

Two of my favourites in one, nice.

Jackson Ross
Jackson Ross

Non-ironically this.

Jordan Bailey
Jordan Bailey

Sounds like a disaster in making.
shooting blanks at friendly soldaten
BANG BANG CLICK
hastily grab magazine and load into weapon
kamaraden dies

Ian Lee
Ian Lee

I don't get why Mike seems to lose his head the moment he thinks about Moka. Just what is so special about her? It's as if Moka is Mike's siren or Lorelei who makes Mike loses his mind.

Anthony Richardson
Anthony Richardson

When departing the ship, the girl puts a hat over the cat ears
It's obviously top secret technology that you can't just show to everyone.

Juan Russell
Juan Russell

Look at this worthless bitch. Causing all that trouble and not even feelin' remorseful. Just sitting in bed eating her blumer pudding. Baka furushou senpai.

Tyler Ramirez
Tyler Ramirez

I was thinking about that too, but I'm guessing there'll be a flashback that explains why she cares so much.

Ryan Diaz
Ryan Diaz

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter_Rocket,_Artillery,_and_Mortar
Mortar shells are the size of two-liter coke bottles, sometimes smaller.

Asher Perry
Asher Perry

His
Why?

Dylan Ortiz
Dylan Ortiz

If you've watched Civil War, then Moka is Bucky.

Jose Mitchell
Jose Mitchell

Best duo

Julian Cooper
Julian Cooper

That's what I'm saying. Missile to missile interception is one thing and that is possible with today's tech. But artillery to artillery interception, not so much. A shell is a much, much smaller target than a missile, and artillery doesn't have the advent of being able to fine tune trajectory mid-air like missiles do.

Brandon Parker
Brandon Parker

Why does shima keep saying oui?

Oliver Fisher
Oliver Fisher

I don't know, but I don't want it to stop.

Andrew Cooper
Andrew Cooper

Mike is too much Captain Kirk for me to see a little girl on the screen. I don't care if Mike has tits; that ain't a little girl at all.
Seriously, Mike is more like a man at sea who's getting homesick for his darling.

Blake Hill
Blake Hill

Why
Because!!

Josiah Russell
Josiah Russell

No, the problem is that they don't have the rest of the AEGIS system that doing something like that requires. Plus, an anti-ship battery isn't going to have the sort of precision fine control that task requires.

Isaac Morales
Isaac Morales

I'll make her stop with my dick in her mouth!

Ryder Scott
Ryder Scott

Why should she be remorseful? the students were late and she was correct in her decision to attack them.

Ryan Wood
Ryan Wood

Isn't it obvious?

Josiah Wilson
Josiah Wilson

If they can't do aircraft, then cruise missiles are also out of the question without something very weird going on.

ICBMs would still be good to go, though. And also probably have the range needed to avoid the ECCM rat field.

Dominic Edwards
Dominic Edwards

I want to drink Tama's oui, if you know what I mean.

Luke Lee
Luke Lee

The infestation has been going on for a while. The higher-ups know, the Safety Board knows, but the schools (including the staff) are kept in the dark.
It could be that it's only recently started plaguing school ships, but you can see the Safety Board already has cat-ear countermeasures and makes no mistake about covering up each incident.
Seeing as the rat came from a delivery company's box, it's plausible that the infestation has commercial shipping and/or the postal system as vectors. If it hit proper military shipping first, you'd expect shit to hit the fan much faster, blowing the lid off the whole thing.
Airships like the one in this episode are probably the only places truly safe from the rats (until someone brings them in), and they're likely to provide contrast for infestations on a large scale causing cities to descend to madness.
Munetani's mom talks to the captain who fired on the Harekaze. Munetani herself has the autist and a genuine rat on board. The mother-daughter connection means they'll eventually meet - my guess is that each one will have one half of the puzzle, and they'll make the discovery together, possibly while already suspended/detained/discredited.

Mason Cox
Mason Cox

Even corporal punishment has its limits.

Colton Thompson
Colton Thompson

I will correct you only in that the 10cm gun wasn't really used as a surface to surface weapon during ww2. It was meant for anti-air and it worked with the type 93 high angle director for that task. AP shells meant against surface combatants were designed, but they weren't ever widely adopted.

Harekaze does possess surface scanning radars, band x and s. We haven't seen the kind of Weapon control system and the actual gun FCS that's employed by the Harekaze though, since there's no way that the eyeball Type 93 could respond in time. I actually think that this ship may have a display system at a CIC somewhere, but we'll need to see it in the anime to know.

Jackson Lee
Jackson Lee

the Safety Board already has cat-ear countermeasures
Please don't start this, people will believe you

Jordan Cruz
Jordan Cruz

Can you still say that after seeing these bad boys?

Landon Davis
Landon Davis

they see your dick

Henry Young
Henry Young

court martial
Some quick OC here

Michael James
Michael James

What a shitty captain.

Isaac Mitchell
Isaac Mitchell

Iron dome has done artillery, or at least mortars, but with missiles rather than guns.

Also, tests of AEGIS have done missiles with guns.

However, I don't think anyone would take shooting down a shell with another gun seriously.

Luke Russell
Luke Russell

Mike has been passively mindcontrolled all along, and Moeka is her trigger

Ryder Williams
Ryder Williams

Nice job.

John Thomas
John Thomas

little girls turn out to be bad soldiers
No fucking shit.

Isaiah Carter
Isaiah Carter

fucking waste of first half, shit.

Nathaniel Richardson
Nathaniel Richardson

The way Moka looked at it, this watch was your birthright. She'd be damned if any rats gonna put their greasy tiny hands on his girl's birthright, so she hid it, in the one place she knew she could hide something: her ass. Five long years, she wore this watch up hers ass. Then when she died of dysentery, she gave me the watch. I hid this uncomfortable piece of metal up my ass for two years. Then, after seven years, I was sent home to my family. And now, Mike, I give the watch to you.

Evan Brooks
Evan Brooks

You know, thinking about it Mike actions were definitely weird. She talks so much about being family and doing things together and then she leaves like that.

I wish this was a 26 episodes anime and we could have seen more Moka and Mike past.

Christopher Wood
Christopher Wood

waste

Hudson Ward
Hudson Ward

What did she mean by this?

Samuel Price
Samuel Price

I know the Japanese had a good 10cm gun (expcept for the part where it ate it's own barrels...), that is the one they're using on their main battery?

Then, or course, if they had a proper CIC, we wouldn't see anything else. Especially not the ocean.

Luke Turner
Luke Turner

That she was using an aimhack.

Cameron Brooks
Cameron Brooks

she wants to smash clams

Noah Sullivan
Noah Sullivan

Best friends > family

Lucas Perez
Lucas Perez

C-RAM artillery is a thing but that's basically a variation of 35mm AAA with a lot higher ROF and technology than their 10cm cannon.

Did anybody else think of the Zipang episode where they intercepted a few shots from the Yamato?

Nathan James
Nathan James

Mind == Blown

Connor Baker
Connor Baker

You can literally see how Doitsu-chan wants to ravage her enemies in an illegal war and kill some jews on the side.

Xavier Rogers
Xavier Rogers

Probably has something to do with how she considers everyone at sea family, not just the people on her own ship.

Gabriel Rivera
Gabriel Rivera

They switched over to the 10cm/65 by the end of the last episode. There's only one Kagerou class that ever got this fit, being Tan Yang (in before Chinks), and that was a hodgepodge DIY work.

Easton Murphy
Easton Murphy

There was no need to go full suicidal and try to reach Moka with the lance instead of using the Harekaze.

Oliver Reyes
Oliver Reyes

Both would be destroyed in a single hit from the Musashi. One is much small and faster and has one person on it instead of 30.

Do the math.

Nolan Cox
Nolan Cox

C-RAM artillery is a thing but that's basically a variation of 35mm AAA with a lot higher ROF and technology than their 10cm cannon.

Right, that's my point. They don't have the right equipment or anything near the tech for C-RAM work.

Brandon White
Brandon White

Talk shell get hell

Luis Myers
Luis Myers

Crow's nest chan looks like she's having fun but probably is keeping an eye out. Almos asdedicated as engi, haha.

Christian Long
Christian Long

Fuck you Shiro, let the captain swim in her underwear if she wants to.

Colton Torres
Colton Torres

Modern ASMs aren't capable of penetrating Musashi's citadel.

James Morris
James Morris

Is the Macaron the most accurate representation of an engineer in an anime?

Oliver Morris
Oliver Morris

But the lance could be destroyed by a somewhat-near miss, whereas the Musushu would have to actually hit the Harakaze.

Benjamin Evans
Benjamin Evans

Mike didn't do anything James Kirk wouldn't have done

Yes that makes her a terrible captain

Sebastian Edwards
Sebastian Edwards

The problem here is that the 18" shell that comes at you is this 1.4t, 3200lb piece of steel with a little bit of explosive inside of it. You aren't going to stop that thing if you don't land a direct hard kill against the shell.

That shell starts out at mach 2.3, and it comes at you at about 1.4 even at about 30km away. This is worse than being harpooned or being hit with an Exocet. (Exocet was Mach 0.9)

Thomas Lopez
Thomas Lopez

I was losing my shit when even Shiro couldn't straight up Mike's shit.

Robert James
Robert James

Such a sexy collar bone

Oliver Davis
Oliver Davis

That's debatable. I know you said modern weapons, but we could get one of those massive Russian monstrosities and give that a go...

Logan Cooper
Logan Cooper

Are there any means that modern cruisers might have to non-lethally disable a WWII battleship?

Benjamin Morales
Benjamin Morales

The real question thing is: Is this a thing?

Ian Rodriguez
Ian Rodriguez

If shells get hit with shells, girls can love girls.

William Hernandez
William Hernandez

Shells hitting shells seems like a 1/1000000000000 chance to me.

Grayson Wood
Grayson Wood

You don't need to penetrate the citadel. You only need to mission kill the Musashi and that's easy enough modern weapons.

Nicholas Roberts
Nicholas Roberts

There was no need to go full suicidal and try to reach Moka with the lance instead of using the Harekaze.
Has it occurred to you that she doesn't want to endanger her whole crew because of her? And she also can't turn her back on her best friend, her actions made perfect sense.

Blake Kelly
Blake Kelly

Torpedus. Although i feel like modern torpedus are much more powerful.

Jackson Ross
Jackson Ross

These people have ASROC system of missiles carrying torpedoes and they can´t figure out how to make normal planes? How fucked up is this worlds technology?

Only something akin to AEGIS combat system has a real chance of using projectile to achieve such a hard kill.
It's not doable on analog director with eyeball fire directors though.

Do not underestimate the power of autism...

The bigger question is if something as small as 27 kg 100mm shell can actually deflect much less detonate a 460mm 1460kg shell.
If Mushashi is firing type-91 or type-1 AP shells, those things have armor of their own, more than Harekaze has on her sides. Shells need the armor to penetrate opponents hull before exploding.

If Mushashi was shooting High explosive shells, they could probably be detonated by Harekazes AA but even a single hit from such a shell would blow any of those opposing destroyers in half.

Pic related, look at that massive thing.

Henry Long
Henry Long

So the rodent's built in jammer is a copout to make WWII tech relevant?

That's pretty much Aerofighters 3 excuse... and a few other settings were they can't use electronics to justify old tech/Hollywood tactics.

Leo Richardson
Leo Richardson

The Harekaze is also slower, turns slower, much larger, loses more if it is hit (29 vs 1, plus value of ship), and actually would still be damaged by near misses.

If Mike made the Harekaze suicide rush the Musashi she would be a way shittier captain than someone who just abandoned their crew for a few minutes to try to talk their friend down. Instead she would literally get everyone on her ship killed by trying to talk her friend down.

By using the jetski the only person endangered is herself, until you take into account that the crew is not going to abandon their captain and thus stays in range of the Musashi to prepare to save her ass if needed.

Zachary Hall
Zachary Hall

There are Harpoon batteries between the funnels.

Camden Torres
Camden Torres

underrated

Carson Scott
Carson Scott

Rapid fire missiles and their main guns into the superstructure of the battleship. You don't have to penetrate the citadel to disable a ship. You can however knock out vital and more vulnerable control systems.

Charles Foster
Charles Foster

It d id occur to me but I don't think Mike actually thought that, she simply stopped thinking.

Adam Ramirez
Adam Ramirez

Modern torpedoes are weaker because modern ships are basically glorified paper boats. They don't have even a fraction of the armor of WW2 ships and thus weapon systems don't need to be as powerful to penetrate them.

Modern torpedoes COULD be more powerful if we wanted them to be. But to do so would be a waste of resources because it'd be massive over-kill.

Jaxson Kelly
Jaxson Kelly

She had abandoned her best friend once already for the sake of her crew. She knows she's emotionally compromised, hence why she gave command over to Shiro before heading off to save her friend. It was Shiro's and the rest of the crew's decision to put the rest of them into danger by following after her. Because they all know she would do the same if any one of them were the one charging into a battleship.

Jacob Sanders
Jacob Sanders

that's a big watch

Colton Richardson
Colton Richardson

Every one at sea is family to her, not just her crew. And Moka is even more important because she's her best friends/most important person.

Josiah Murphy
Josiah Murphy

Consecutive ASM hits to the the main battery turrets, destroying all of the optics and radar with gunfire, using one of those special Tomahawks to rain DPICM on the deck...

Really, the idea is sort of a silly. The way a warship is built, anything capable of damaging vital systems is going to have to be posing a serious threat to the ship as a whole.

Blake Gomez
Blake Gomez

I'm just wondering if someone IRL did it ever? Or written on manual book or something.

Dominic Sanchez
Dominic Sanchez

modern ships are basically glorified paper boats
mfw the USS Iowa is no more

Logan Hernandez
Logan Hernandez

The bigger question is if something as small as 27 kg 100mm shell can actually deflect much less detonate a 460mm 1460kg shell.

Almost certainly not detonate - during the Battle Off Samar, the Yammato hit the Taffy-3 destroyers with it's main battery, but accomplished fairly little, because the shells punched clean through without hitting anything hard enough to set them off.

Sebastian Miller
Sebastian Miller

The 10cm/65 hurls this 13kg HE shell, and it's got about 1000 meters/s muzzle velocity (mach 2.9). Something like this would have the needed kinetic energy to engage the 46cm shell and detonate it, provided that you connect the impossibly small target.

Tyler Reyes
Tyler Reyes

As far as I can recall, those haven't been put into active service yet. They'd also be incredibly easy to intercept provided you know they're coming since they can't change course at hypersonic speeds.

Kayden Wright
Kayden Wright

I'm just wondering if someone IRL did it ever?
With a 10cm cannon? I doubt it.

Brandon James
Brandon James

The theory is that everyone dies turn one from a massive missile exchange, so there's no point in wasting weight on armor.

It was probably valid right up until we realized that shooting down missiles was totally possible.

Anthony Howard
Anthony Howard

Only on surface vessels. Modern heavy submarine torpedoes are at least as devastating if not more than any WW2 torpedo is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlpx4DMGzYI

Dominic Ward
Dominic Ward

Looks like a Suunto.

Those are common with polo-wearing fuckboys.

For you.

Nolan Sanchez
Nolan Sanchez

I was talking about the one they were planning to use for the massive attacks on the Carrier Battle Groups during WWIII, Granit or Moskit or something. They are in service, and like seven tons each.

Adam Evans
Adam Evans

Armor is still a waste though because we can shoot down missiles. Any modern missile we have will absolutely rape a ship no matter how armored we make it, so the only option is to shoot that missile down before it reaches it's target. Modern weapons have rendered armored hulls obsolete.

Ayden Johnson
Ayden Johnson

Everything you'd need to take out to mission kill a battleship is protected by the citadel. Disabling the external radars won't cut it, because the batteries still have optical rangefinders.

Really, even using the Mk. 1 Eyeball Musashi should have sank the entire fleet within five salvos at that range.

Connor Young
Connor Young

It's technically possible. I mean, we have active defense system being designed for tanks to use against anti-tank missiles and eventually tank shells. I mean, the iron dome system Israel has is something similar since it intercepts artillery shells. Granted, it's with missile, but apparently, in the Hai-Furi verse, high school girls have accuracy better than computers.

Levi Miller
Levi Miller

You are confusing lightweight anti-sub torpedoes with big ship killers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_46_torpedo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_48_torpedo

Evan Rodriguez
Evan Rodriguez

That wasn't why. It's because the Crossroads tests showed that even though battleships and heavy cruisers can survive a nuclear attack physically intact, they'll be contaminated by fallout and rendered useless anyway.

As a result they switched to cheaper, more disposable ships.

The F-14 was another product of the theory that any future naval war would involve nuclear attacks against surface ships, as it and the AIM-54 Phoenix were designed to intercept Soviet bomber formations before they could drop their payload.

Nicholas Myers
Nicholas Myers

Zipang
That ship at least had the radar, computing and firecontrol capability to intercept those shells.

But as this user said:
The problem here is that the 18" shell that comes at you is this 1.4t, 3200lb piece of steel with a little bit of explosive inside of it.
Those things are massive rods of steel desinged to fuck your ship up.

Zipang was using Sea Sparrow missiles with 40 kg proximity fused warheads. Blowing of the windshield from a 460mm shell could possibly make it fall short and therefore miss. but considering the poor accuracy of japanese WW2 naval gunnery the ship would still be at risk. All in all those things were nasty.

Chase Lewis
Chase Lewis

Looks like a Suunto.
Now that you mention it.

Hudson Hill
Hudson Hill

being designed

It's a bit further than that.

Logan Bell
Logan Bell

So previous characterization be damned, she was just mindbroken? Of course she didn't have a plan and acted recklessly stupid, but her motivation seemed straightforward and everything was in-character.

Isaiah Green
Isaiah Green

Could you imagine being in the ship looking out the window when that happened? The explosion is bigger than the fucking ship.

Fucking hell, I would immediately offer myself to whoever's aiming skills resulted in that shit after I picked my face up off the floor and got a change of clothes.

Tyler Mitchell
Tyler Mitchell

As a result they switched to cheaper, more disposable ships.

I think we fucked this part up.

Levi Williams
Levi Williams

Did none of the instructors consider sending in boarding parties? Or are cruisers not equipped for that?

Carter Rivera
Carter Rivera

Not the same but you may enjoy this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSSgvLOCFU0

Aiden Young
Aiden Young

digital watches
literally a low class doc

Brayden Cooper
Brayden Cooper

I would immediately offer myself to whoever's aiming skills resulted in that shit
Tama is drowning in pussy.

Jayden Robinson
Jayden Robinson

I would immediately offer myself to whoever's aiming skills resulted in that shit

You are a mechasexual?

Nicholas Nguyen
Nicholas Nguyen

Optical rangefinders are still outside of the citadel. Everything needed to operate the weaponry in terms of FCS is outside the citadel and is vulnerable to fire.

Mission kill isn't crippling the BB. It's simply rendering it incapable or ineffective in its ability to return fire in the case of a BB.

Ethan Wright
Ethan Wright

user, the Musashi is crewed by cute girls presumably armed with squirt guns.

They wouldn't stand a chance.

Kevin Taylor
Kevin Taylor

It's strange to me that the writers want us to give a shit about Moeka when she's literally been on screen for about 3 minutes so far. Mike's actions would be far easier to relate to if Moeka was an actual character instead of a name they happen to mention once per episode.

Julian Evans
Julian Evans

No. And an even bigger no to someone writing a manual on it. The closest thing to it is bullets colliding mid-air, which is possible and has happened before. There are a couple example of fused bullets from the American Civil War.

That said, those bullets are one in a in a million fluke that only happened because of the sheer number of bullets being fired throughout the war. Hitting an artillery shell with another shell on purpose is practically impossible, and even more so when all you have for targeting is an autistic child. And before someone starts spouting about FCS, we say them manually adjust the firing angle this episode around minute 21

Cameron Wood
Cameron Wood

Doesn't look that large for a sportswatch, haha.

I just thought she bailed because she knew her judgment was clouded,

Gavin Anderson
Gavin Anderson

Or are cruisers not equipped for that?

That was the eighteenth century.

Evan Baker
Evan Baker

Yes, that's kind of the point. They wouldn't need to use any lethal force.

Dominic Lewis
Dominic Lewis

When you use a missile, you get to correct the course as you go. Not the case with a cannon shell.
Also, keep in mind that a well trained sniper may be able to hit someone's head a mile away on a good day, but that requires a rifle and ammo optimized for sniping above all other uses. Even if the Harukaze had such a useless cannon, you can imagine that scaling up the gun and the distance to the target would make accuracy much worse.
If the idiot savant hit the shell with a shell, it's isekai-grade magic right there. No amount of skill and tinkering could yield this.

Thomas Ross
Thomas Ross

How would they get close?

Ethan Lewis
Ethan Lewis

I was referring to the men.

Blake Howard
Blake Howard

Well, yeah. That's kinda what I said. Hai-Furi high school girls are walking aimbots. Otherwise, the entire premise of Girs Und Whatever would not work whatsoever.

Owen Gomez
Owen Gomez

They do have patrol boats and mike got pretty close on her jetski. If they were willing to risk it, they could. But there'd probably be heavy casualties as the mokashi lays waste to anyone coming near her.

Jason Hall
Jason Hall

you will never witness cargo-cult sailors building shrines to the AEGIS guides and burning offerings after the ancient weapon springs to life as foretold by prophecy and ritual.

Anthony Gutierrez
Anthony Gutierrez

Not necessarily if you expect the enemy to nuke your fleet. A nuclear attack will effectively destroy a fleet comprised of battleships and heavy cruisers just as well as a fleet comprised of destroyers and missile cruisers. Built with the same technology, it would be much more expensive to replace the battleships and heavy cruisers though.

Theoretically you could retrieve and decontaminate the nuked battleships and CAs, but it would be difficult to do in an active warzone and prohibitively expensive.

Of course that scenario pretty much stopped being valid once ICBMs made MAD a serious threat, and fell out of relevance completely after the Soviet Union collapsed.

If not for Congress constantly cockblocking everything nice we try to get for our military, it would actually be a really good idea to transition back to armored cruisers and battleships, since they're much more likely to survive against asymmetric threats and ASMs that we may face from Iran and other countries. The Samuel B Roberts (#3) wouldn't have been nearly destroyed by an Iranian missile if she had six inches of steel protecting her hull, after all.

Lincoln Garcia
Lincoln Garcia

Except, as we've seen, those that are infected become highly aggressive, might have slightly enhanced strength and speed, while retaining enough of their mind to use weapons. Those men would get slaughtered.

Henry Davis
Henry Davis

Tama should be immediately promoted to teach gunnery as an instructor with the shit that she pulled, for doing this even with an AEGIS combat system setup would make you a legend.

Christian Nguyen
Christian Nguyen

I understand the girl not having much regs, but Otakon's mane here is lols.

Carson Green
Carson Green

What if Blue Mermaids all actually do this shit constantly?

Imagine how shounen the fights could get. I kind of want to see that.

Kayden Sullivan
Kayden Sullivan

Chemical weapons weren't developed in their timeline so they don't need grooming standards for gas masks.

Henry Myers
Henry Myers

I kinda wish they'd go with GuP premise instead "it's all just a sport".

Thomas Perry
Thomas Perry

It's not as impressive as you think, given that they had the incoming projectiles' courses on radar and six rapid fire guns.

David Harris
David Harris

No, I was saying we messed up on both 'cheep' and 'disposable'.

And I agree about going back to a sort of armored cruiser model. The ratio of surface armor to internal reinforcement might need some study - I don't know if it's viable to try and reliably stop everything on the belt, but containing and limiting the effect of a missile strike would be a good idea.

That said, you'd want to also give the thing a serious APS suite. The armor is to stop the one that gets away.

Christopher Hughes
Christopher Hughes

it would actually be a really good idea to transition back to armored cruisers and battleship

No, it wouldn't. You cannot effectively armor a ship against modern weaponry.

Ryder Myers
Ryder Myers

No airplanes
Reason is that every gunner is a god tier sniper capable of shooting down anything flying 50,000 feet+ at speeds up to Mach 10.

Jordan White
Jordan White

courses on radar

SO if it was done, it would have been the computer. Organic systems simply aren't precise in the way that type of thing requires.

Eli Baker
Eli Baker

6 guns, WW2 make and design, never meant to engage a 1400kg projectile, let along neutralize it. This thing's not a missile.

Grayson Gomez
Grayson Gomez

Have you missed the part where modern ASMs are completely incapable of penetrating an armored warship, Moskit aside?

Robert Allen
Robert Allen

Obviously.

If we were to build a modernized Montana with AEGIS and VLS, it'd be more or less impervious to anything that could be thrown at it. All the anti-air capability of an entire CVBG with the armor to soak anything that slips through.

Obviously there's a chance that something may slip through and find a weak point in the protection scheme, but it'd be much more capable of surviving that scenario than an Arleigh Burke or Ticonderoga that can be crippled by a rubber boat filled with sand niggers.

Andrew Perry
Andrew Perry

This. Missiles are a beer cans filled with explosives and fuel flying at slower speed than shells and manuvering aerodynamically. They are very fragile.

460 Shells are rods of steel, not manuvering and will fly through allmost anything.

Hudson Ward
Hudson Ward

I want to fuck a Zumwalt

Angel Perez
Angel Perez

Zumwalt a shit.

Landon Price
Landon Price

Don't talk shit about my waifu

Ayden Mitchell
Ayden Mitchell

It's really the same thing. In the end, no one is actually a traitor and everyone will be daijoibu after splashing some water on them. That and having WW2-era ship duels without the complicated backstory means USN stomping over everyone. I mean, what the hell is the IJN going to do to compete with an Iowa?

Jonathan Ross
Jonathan Ross

Have you missed the part where modern ASMs are completely incapable of penetrating an armored warship

Is that before or after you forgot that modern AShM's are more lethal than WW2 aerial weaponry that sank multiple battleships?

Hunter Long
Hunter Long

A modern Montana, armed with railguns could probably still be torpedoed from a sub, or would probably be mission killed in a few hits. Of course it would fair better against pirates/sandniggers but it would be a massive target and still have less power projection capability and utitility than a modern supercarrier.

It would be a massive, expensive, stupid, american dickwawing project. Approved!
t. Donald Trump.

Landon Green
Landon Green

Except they're not.

Brandon Clark
Brandon Clark

Tan Yang
*Yukizake

Connor Wright
Connor Wright

Even modern sub-launched torpedoes aren't capable of sinking a modern battleship before the battleship's own ASROCs or helicopter sink the sub.

Jason Garcia
Jason Garcia

Yukikaze never had 10cm guns.

Alexander Wright
Alexander Wright

https://warshipphilosophy.wordpress.com/2013/05/29/modern-warship-armor-part-2/

This makes good points on the choice between strong armor and active defence. The impression I get is that, since active defence can be projected to nearby ships and doesn't lose capability after stopping a missile, it's usually a better deal than armor. It would still be good insurance to have a degree of 'citadel' protection like the Kirov though.

Justin Gutierrez
Justin Gutierrez

Even small AShM's like Harpoons have comparable warheads to aerial torpedoes, and are not limited to hitting ships in their most heavily armored areas.

Levi Gomez
Levi Gomez

At least in otherwise scenario, it will be make more sense than this one.

Oliver Flores
Oliver Flores

You do realize how long it took to create bunker busting bombs? It only took 28 days to create the GBU-28.

The moment your bring out an armored vessels is the moment that Ivan getting drunk in the supply depot decides to take old artillery casing and hot glue them to their missiles.

Brody Bennett
Brody Bennett

Megumin stop posting.

Luke Adams
Luke Adams

Aerial torpedoes were fairly ineffective against Musashi and Yamato, and ASMs wouldn't be half as effective as even those.

What makes torpedoes effective is the fact that water transfers the energy of the warhead far better than air. A torpedo doesn't waste 95% of the energy in its warhead with a big fireball. It transfers a much larger portion of that energy to the hull itself. More importantly, the torpedo puts a hole in the hull below the waterline.

An ASM would not only waste most of its energy, but the hole, assuming we're ignoring the fact that it wouldn't have a snowball's chance in Hell of penetrating the armor, would be in a non-vital compartment where the actual damage to the ship and its systems would be minimal and fires could be easily contained.

Even if you were to switch to a shaped charge to allow the missile to penetrate the citadel armor, the missile would actually be less effective. Ships are not tanks. They're not tiny, cramped boxes filled with people and ammunition in close proximity. The jet of molten copper from a shaped warhead would do effectively nothing to anything in any compartment it would reach after striking the armor.

Asher Taylor
Asher Taylor

Why is Mashiro so shit? She ruined the whole furisode

Leo Young
Leo Young

No it doesn't. Or are you saying city-size self-sustaining carriers are perfectly viable? Or that any military will ever let civilians use their tanks as pseudo martial arts competition?

Isaiah Diaz
Isaiah Diaz

The problem is that creating armor penetrating missiles in response than creating armored warships in reaction to missiles. It doesn't take much for someone to say "put armored cap on missile". And voila you have armor defeating missile.

And the Russians already have huge ass missiles capable of defeating a good amount of armor that ain't BB tier.

Brody Adams
Brody Adams

An armored cap won't get the job done. Missiles aren't rigid. They're not meant for penetration. Even if you gave it a cap, all that would happen is that the cap would absorb all the energy of the missile splattering against the armor.

Brody Hall
Brody Hall

Missiles aren't rigid. They're not meant for penetration.
wut?

Carter Price
Carter Price

It's an oversimplification but adaption of missiles and warheads is infinitely much more easier than building the ship itself.

What would happen is that the ship is countered the moment it comes out of drydock if the enemy has any idea of what you were trying to put out.

Jeremiah Cruz
Jeremiah Cruz

Misaki was the one who ruined the episode.

Lucas James
Lucas James

Did she stop anyone from stripping? No? Then shut up.

Jonathan Lewis
Jonathan Lewis

Moka not affected by mind control hamsters
Moka confirmed catgirl.

Robert Parker
Robert Parker

Why can't you basically mount a HEAT warhead on a missile?

Justin Smith
Justin Smith

TELL ME ABOUT HAREKAZE WHY DID YOU FIRE UPON THEM.

Aaron Long
Aaron Long

So, what's going to happen?
Will Mike step down his command and Shiro assumes captaincy? And if so, is Shiro going to get the Harekaze into deep shit from her horrible luck?
Will the crew even keep being with the Harekaze or they will actually lose their ship and have to fight the Hiei or the Musashi in another ship?

Angel Wright
Angel Wright

Well missiles already have shaped charges to them and divert the blast inwards to their targets.

Problem with HEAT is that a ship is filled with multiple compartments. It isn't a tank with a single compartment. You'll get in to one compartment and that's it. Nothing else much happens.

Joshua Smith
Joshua Smith

I liked the part when she got her shit together and started barking orders right after Mike left.

Angel Wilson
Angel Wilson

Shiro will lock Mike up and sink the Musashi somehow. They'll get mad at each other and argue over whether it was the right thing to do.

Luke Young
Luke Young

And only to fail. Shiro will lose the Harekaze in her attempt to sink the Musashi and the wedge between her and Mike will grow as Mike is denied her final duty to the Harekaze by having been thrown to the brig and then evacuated from Shiro's command costing the class their ship.

Liam Martinez
Liam Martinez

So now Mike is actually disobeying orders? Court martial when?

Nicholas Reed
Nicholas Reed

Nice bukkake

Adam Cruz
Adam Cruz

The crew will mutiny, and Shiro will captain it reluctantly when the crew votes her in as captain

because of her bad luck, she will cause the Harekaze to sink. Reichgirl will then slap her shit and Mike's shit and admonish the entire crew while the ship is sinking. Mike refuses to move from her cell in the brig because the captain goes down with the ship.

Everyone makes up in the end, and Mike gets them out of the situation and into their sparkling new ship.

Bentley Lopez
Bentley Lopez

Mashiro has the best faces.

Henry Collins
Henry Collins

she has not engaged in battle so no.

Jason Ross
Jason Ross

No. Mike didn't actually disobey the order as the Captain, for she never did order the ship to engage in combat. She would be held answering to an inquiry for abandoning her ship to directly approach the Musashi however.

Jose Richardson
Jose Richardson

I want to fucking impregnate Munetani-nee san. I bet she's a secret klutz as well with that bed hair.

Chase Hall
Chase Hall

I loved the part where Coco chan was bonding with Brown Sugar over movies.

Still looks like a hamster plot, but I hope there is more to come, such as who planted the hamsters.

Easton Cruz
Easton Cruz

I can't believe that Mike forfeit her crew for a single person

Adrian Reed
Adrian Reed

That's treason

Jace Cox
Jace Cox

Love makes you do crazy things.

Tyler Nelson
Tyler Nelson

He's got a point

John Stewart
John Stewart

Sheev pls go

Kayden Torres
Kayden Torres

Her father abandoned his family for his mistress

She is doing the same.

Julian Sullivan
Julian Sullivan

No, not treason. It's questionable judgement, but it's not treason to try to establish communication with the Musashi that way.

Connor Sullivan
Connor Sullivan

FUND IT

Luis Gomez
Luis Gomez

So these hamster fuckers are the real villains? How are they able to disable electronics on ships?
And why isn't moka sending a emergency call like last time? Is the emergency radio effected too?

Lincoln Hall
Lincoln Hall

Are you threatening me, Deputy Captain Shiro-san?

Bentley Howard
Bentley Howard

It's not treason, but I could see it qualifying as desertion.

William Scott
William Scott

How are they able to disable electronics on ships?
Magnets.

Leo Robinson
Leo Robinson

It is when you're the captain

Jason Russell
Jason Russell

Fucking space rats.

Lincoln Mitchell
Lincoln Mitchell

This thread is more /ak/ than the /ak/ thread. We actually serious in considering the projectile hard-kill scenario for the last one and a half thread.

Noah Long
Noah Long

Is it over, Yuri?

John Rivera
John Rivera

desertion
Desertion means abandoning duty without intention of returning.

Lincoln Sullivan
Lincoln Sullivan

It's something to hold an inquiry over, but not a count martial.
On the other hand, if Shiro loses the Harekaze under her command, then she'd have to answer to a court martial.

Angel Sullivan
Angel Sullivan

Give me a ping, Kouko. One ping only, please.

Ian Parker
Ian Parker

Isn't desertion abandoning your post without permission? Or is it AWOL?

Henry Howard
Henry Howard

I hope they government experiments gone wrong. Don't want it to be magic or alien shit. And how (forgot that question) are they possessing minds of the musashi crew etc?
That would be fucking stupid.

Lucas Flores
Lucas Flores

Pretty sure that's AWOL.

Justin Cox
Justin Cox

Doctor manages to isolate the virus
Create a super serum
Harekaze crew now have all superpowers, but still retain their consciousness

10/10

Landon Walker
Landon Walker

Tang Yang is a silly name

Liam Brown
Liam Brown

Oh, I see. English is not my first language, sorry.

Ian Jones
Ian Jones

I swear I read that at first,
Mike gets them out of the situation and into their spanking
and was OK with it

Ayden Powell
Ayden Powell

It's not exactly trivial. Far from it, actually.

And at the end of the day, every pound of material that isn't fuel or warhead on a missile is impeding it's ability to properly do its job.

Anthony Baker
Anthony Baker

hamsters with glowing eyes that jam electronics and make people go crazy
Haifuri was a mistake

Juan Martinez
Juan Martinez

Harekaze crew now have all superpowers
…except for Mashiro, who is immune to the virus and the serum.

Colton Foster
Colton Foster

I really liked the way Shiro was trying to convince Mike not to leave. She jumped way up in my list. Also it would be nice to know more about Mike's and Moka's history. Might explain why Mike was so desperate.

Nolan Green
Nolan Green

EUR is still worth more than USD. They were supposedly par initially.

Mason Phillips
Mason Phillips

I also feel that way. It also made me hate Mike.
I seriously hope that this was intended.

Mason Butler
Mason Butler

Fucking hamsters. Literally ruined the whole show.

Charles Adams
Charles Adams

YEN is still worth 1/100th of the USD.They were supposedly par initially.

Jason Wright
Jason Wright

Also it would be nice to know more about Mike's and Moka's history.
I want to know more about this than the whole rats thing. Hope for flashback next episode.

William Carter
William Carter

Love is all you need to know.

Josiah Sanders
Josiah Sanders

please be red herrings

Like hamsters are attracted to jamming devices because they chew on cables and shit.

Brayden Peterson
Brayden Peterson

This leaves the question of what exactly went down between Mike and Moka? Is Moka some sort of emotional pillar for Mike? Kind of like Marko Ramius's wife? I can't see it being just being childhood friends at all.

Evan Hill
Evan Hill

I want to know more about this than the whole rats thing. Hope for flashback next episode.
Over half of the show remaining. That is if it's 12 episodes. I don't think a final episode count has been announced yet.

Jayden Taylor
Jayden Taylor

not welcoming our new hamster overlords

Jackson Gomez
Jackson Gomez

but what about possessing people?

Tyler Howard
Tyler Howard

Someone bring the cats here.

Ethan Martin
Ethan Martin

Useless

Kevin Harris
Kevin Harris

No, please no flashbacks. You know exactly what this is going to be like. Some sob story about how they had to go seperate ways and the other usual bullshit.

I can't see it being just being childhood friends at all.
The writing in this show is worse than retarded. Of course it's just going to be childhood friends.

Adam Hughes
Adam Hughes

The hamsters are like canaries in mining shafts.

The glowing eyes was a correlation, not a causation, because of their small size, their brain goes crazy faster than a human.

And that would make a twist with the cat thing.

I still can't explain glowing eyes though.

Matthew Kelly
Matthew Kelly

The USN today would be fucked if those rats found their ways to any part of the fleet asset.

Michael Moore
Michael Moore

(Checked. Twice)
I, for one, welcome our new hamster overlords

Kayden Nguyen
Kayden Nguyen

just

Lincoln Turner
Lincoln Turner

The glowing eyes was a correlation, not a causation, because of their small size, their brain goes crazy faster than a human.
That doesn't really explain why the person with the closest contact to the hamster on the Harekaze went crazy or why it started happening on the Harekaze after the hamster boarded the ship.

But I imagine the mining in the Haifuri world somehow has to tie into the show.

Jeremiah Green
Jeremiah Green

I, for one, welcome our new hamster overlords

Joseph Lopez
Joseph Lopez

I still can't explain glowing eyes though.
And transporting people out of water.

Charles Young
Charles Young

It's over. They won.

David Brown
David Brown

I thought they don't have aircrafts in this show?

Henry Anderson
Henry Anderson

That's just bullshit. Yen during 1971 was 350 to the dollar. I know you are backpedaling all the way to 1871, buy even during 1897 the Yen was only 0.5 dollars. The value was pegged during the occupation government to 1:360.

Sebastian Hernandez
Sebastian Hernandez

What has science done?

Benjamin Robinson
Benjamin Robinson

Airplanes.

Anthony Kelly
Anthony Kelly

That doesn't really explain why the person with the closest contact to the hamster on the Harekaze went crazy
Coincidence. I'm saying that both were affected by some 3rd party weapon/disease, but the hamster got taken over first, which is why the eyes glowed first. So it appears the hamster is the cause, but the reality is the hamster was also just affected, but more quickly.

1) That area is shot at with invisible mind control laser beam super weapon
2) The hamster goes crazy first and the eyes glow
3) Tama has a slightly larger brain so it takes longer before she goes crazy

It only looks like the hamster caused it, just to fuck with you.

Of maybe they're carriers for devices, but the glowing eyes does not signify them controlling someone else, but being controlled by the device along with the target.

Brayden Kelly
Brayden Kelly

No planes or helicopters. Only zeppelins and blimps are a thing.

Jackson Reed
Jackson Reed

Fuck.

Charles Thomas
Charles Thomas

Oh, alright. Thanks.

Adam Stewart
Adam Stewart

Coincidence
That's too much coincidence.

Also, I don't see why the jamming would be wire chewing considering it can fuck up a digital watch with absolutely no contact.

Cameron Smith
Cameron Smith

(also checked)
I still can't explain glowing eyes though.

Luis Martinez
Luis Martinez

Do you know what the word initially means you faggot?

In 100 years time, the Euro will be worth 1/100th of a yen.

Dominic Robinson
Dominic Robinson

all that fanwank
user, is really THAT difficult to accept the evidence that our new hamster overlords only want to be cuddled?

Blake White
Blake White

Is Moka some sort of emotional pillar for Mike?
She is, her character profile said that she has always been the one encouraging Mike. And in the drama CD, Mike always relies on Moka to fix up her mistakes.

Nicholas Rodriguez
Nicholas Rodriguez

That's too much coincidence.
It's called a red herring

Also, I don't see why the jamming would be wire chewing considering it can fuck up a digital watch with absolutely no contact.
I said they're attracted to the jamming devices, not that they are the jamming devices.

I just want it to be anything but magic hamsters

Jace Jackson
Jace Jackson

Anyone getting a bad vibe from this?

Christopher Collins
Christopher Collins

I just want it to be anything but magic hamsters
Get a load of this faggot

Easton Wilson
Easton Wilson

Then why do they shoot at the cuddlers?

Henry Miller
Henry Miller

If both die together, I wouldn't really mind.

Charles Russell
Charles Russell

I'm pretty sure it's relating to the whole 'drilling too deep' Japan did with its Methane mining. Scientist probably found some ancient microbe and used it for SCIENCE! Since they're playing fast and loose with science here, I'm guessing the end result are labrats that now has a self-defense mechanism that sends electrical waves like an eel which disrupts machinery and alters the brainwave patterns for heighten aggression or something.

Carter Torres
Carter Torres

Because they're misunderstood by the inferior human minds

Jayden Garcia
Jayden Garcia

It was just a joke.

Owen Evans
Owen Evans

No need for lucky sevens - it was just a subtitles accident, much like "recicle - trash"

Nicholas Reed
Nicholas Reed

want to be cuddled
mind control people to attack ships with cute girls
the kind that would actually cuddle cute little animals
They are machines full of hate, not wanting to be cuddled.

Jace Ramirez
Jace Ramirez

RIP in pieces

Jonathan Green
Jonathan Green

science
not SCIENCE!
That's why you doubt

Landon Reed
Landon Reed

Mike was desperate because she had initially abandoned Moka for her crew after hearing her distress call. Time and time again they kept bringing up news about the Musashi and now she see they're firing at each other. I mean, all things considers, she did explicitly gave command over to Shiro before heading over. I highly doubt MIke could have logically gave out orders even if she had stayed. That and if that wasn't Moka on the Musashi but one of Shiro's relatives, I'm sure Shiro would have done the same thing as well.

Jose Baker
Jose Baker

In the end, it doesn't even matters.

I'm sorry

Kevin Perez
Kevin Perez

And glowing eyes

Josiah Cooper
Josiah Cooper

The best thing is how people still believe that a government conspiracy involving everyone in the world trying to kill these newbies on a training mission would make more sense than brainwashing EMP mice.

Benjamin Moore
Benjamin Moore

Can we all agree this was the worst episode of the series thus far?

Aiden Lee
Aiden Lee

no.

Jayden Myers
Jayden Myers

Captain Mike has no honor and sense of duty.

Asher Cox
Asher Cox

I sure do, if the Harekaze's equipped with caterpillar drive and she could park a couple of hundred warheads over San Francisco without anyone noticing.

Blake Carter
Blake Carter

No

Connor Mitchell
Connor Mitchell

I don't know m8. Look at all those swimsuits. Look at all those qts.

Owen Smith
Owen Smith

Can we agree that you should give me oral?

Chase Phillips
Chase Phillips

What do you think that Moeka will do if she see this?

Justin Jones
Justin Jones

Nevermind the helipads on the instructor ships and short range RAMs and 25mm guns everywhere.

Justin Hernandez
Justin Hernandez

People are to hard on Mike
True she abandoned her ship but she is still teenage girl in situation she never prepared for and she just want to save her best friend.

(Also captains in fiction do worse stuff in spite being professionals)

Joseph Nelson
Joseph Nelson

That's just a visual cue and not actually happening. It's kinda like the rainbow colored hair on anime characters. They don't actually have green hair, but they're given that color to tell the characters apart/make them stand out. Just like how their eyes don't actually glow since I'm sure someone would have said something about it when the white hair girl was being crazy.

Landon Wright
Landon Wright

Defeat all the hamsters on the Musashi and swim to the Harekaze.

Dylan Robinson
Dylan Robinson

Last episode was the worst, too many inconsistencies and shitty plot twists. At least we had swimsuits in this episode.

Jason Anderson
Jason Anderson

Those are for observation balloons.

Parker Phillips
Parker Phillips

Musashi firing 18 inches of cooties at the boys ships
Mike's mikes
Macci paraglider
dem ASROC
I, for one, welcome our new hamster overlords
worse episode
You have shit taste and you're waifu a shit

Connor Ramirez
Connor Ramirez

Those won't fit in the hangars.

Xavier Watson
Xavier Watson

Everyone and everything die in the end, that's a given.

Kevin Price
Kevin Price

Endangering the crew
Jeopardizing the mission
Disobeying orders
She's getting a medal, a handshake with the president and the girl. Do you even fiction?

How are they able to disable electronics on ships?
The answer will be either mildly clever or fucking stupid. I stopped caring a while ago.

Jace Evans
Jace Evans

No.
Also there is no bad episode in show so "worst" title would missleading.

Ryan Peterson
Ryan Peterson

All that build up for hamsters

Dylan Sullivan
Dylan Sullivan

Remove captain Mike.
A disgrace to all men who died on the sea.

Isaiah Garcia
Isaiah Garcia

Shiro would have done the same thing as well.

Shiro is super responsible. She wouldn't do something like that.

Noah Hughes
Noah Hughes

Well I liked seeing Mii in a swimsuit, but I think we can agree that Mike is worst girl after this episode. I never understood why Sup Forums liked her, at least now you people won't even be able to justiy it anymore.

Cooper Smith
Cooper Smith

Don't know about that, but definitely top tier.

Sebastian Brooks
Sebastian Brooks

You're all being too harsh on the Captain.

Nicholas Lopez
Nicholas Lopez

Mike did not actually disobey the order to not engage in combat. He asked Shiro to assume command and take Harekaze out of Musashi's range, and the responsibility of putting Harekaze in danger is squarely on Shiro after that. That should piss you off if you are arguing that Mike would be held more liable in this situation than Shiro.

Brayden Morgan
Brayden Morgan

Depends how much you've seen regarding captains. What Mike did is hardly all that out there in terms for captains in fiction.

I'm looking at you Kirk.

Robert Jones
Robert Jones

wait, did mii-chan entirely forgotten about her original crew?

Ethan Fisher
Ethan Fisher

She would try to pretend she's fine, causing her to screw up orders and with her luck get Harekaze sunk.

Jayden Hill
Jayden Hill

What is she going to do now? Chase her ship down with just a destroyer?

Sebastian Baker
Sebastian Baker

They are dead, Jim.

Logan Ortiz
Logan Ortiz

Mike was cool when she was in command. Now that she's lost it, yes, worst girl.

Arguably, she should have turned over command anyways if she determined she could no longer function as captain due to emotional stress anyways. But handing over command to abandon ship is pretty bad.

Charles Hill
Charles Hill

asked Shiro to assume command and take Harekaze out of Musashi's range, and the responsibility of putting Harekaze in danger is squarely on Shiro after that.
Already mentioned in previous thread
/a/thread/141203147#p141220110

Jeremiah Richardson
Jeremiah Richardson

The only shit part of it was Mike going fucking AWOL

Wyatt Sanchez
Wyatt Sanchez

People forget Mike is not someone who was trained in academy and had field experience and reached captain rank and command of ship.

Logan Taylor
Logan Taylor

what? This episode show us Mike from a different aspect which further enriched her image

Gabriel Torres
Gabriel Torres

No

John Thomas
John Thomas

At least she can tell what happened on her ship to the Yokosuka school and ask them to search and rescue?

Justin Bennett
Justin Bennett

I would never agree to that shit.

Justin Wright
Justin Wright

It's her "character development" episode. Because people will get cranky with muh Mary Sue shit otherwise.

Noah Jones
Noah Jones

I like how desperate your reasoning has become, Mikefags.

Mason Myers
Mason Myers

There it is. Just as expected.

Jace Cox
Jace Cox

But handing over command to abandon ship is pretty bad.
Well, her intention was not to abandon ship but to rescue the captain of the Musashi.

Levi Collins
Levi Collins

More importantly, what was she planing to do? Turn into Duke Nukem and fight her way through the Musashi to save Moka?

Brody Hall
Brody Hall

More importantly, what was she planing to do?
Fuck her way in.

Alexander Gomez
Alexander Gomez

What I am really disappointed with is that Shiro did fine in commanding the ship, but she ended up putting the Harekaze in very grave danger there. The unlikely act of brilliance/luck such as Tama's hard-kill of the 46cm round is no way to address the situation.

Shiro, who kept telling Mike that it is the Harekaze who needed help, has totally gone back on her words by going in after Mike; the Harekaze, under order to not engage in combat, has no mean to seriously oppose the Musashi, a warship that has a tighter turning diameter than the destroyer and way heavier ordinance to total them with.

As for Mike, well what the fuck was he thinking? Is Moka that much of a girl that he'd lose his mind totally?

Isaac Brown
Isaac Brown

Turn into Nanoha actually.

Jeremiah Torres
Jeremiah Torres

all that talk about the furless scum

Luis Ross
Luis Ross

Maybe she's got a gun.

Christopher Baker
Christopher Baker

Turn into Duke Nukem and fight her way through the Musashi to save Moka?

Closer to Doug Huggem and friendship her way in,

John Foster
John Foster

Moka: Is that a gun in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?

Mason Sullivan
Mason Sullivan

Is hamster mind control a STD?

Hudson Cruz
Hudson Cruz

german showing true colors
I wish germany could be awesome again.

Jonathan Ortiz
Jonathan Ortiz

I hope not or Tama needs to be put in the brig.

Lucas Smith
Lucas Smith

She didn't have any plan in mind. She just lose her shit at the sight of Musashi's current condition with surrounding vessels.

Benjamin Foster
Benjamin Foster

Mike actually wants to be more than friends - Mike wants to be family.

Landon Kelly
Landon Kelly

The TV series was actually really well received considering ARK told the preduction company to do what ever they wanted. The movies on the other hand didn't live up to the TV series even though the first movie was just a recap.

Alexander Turner
Alexander Turner

gone back on her words by going in after Mike;
Actually Shiro just told Mike that the Harekaze crew should be considered family and has priority. Mike is part of the crew, Moka is not.

So I see your point, yes, Shiro endangered the rest of the crew, but "leaving no man behind" isn't really going back on her word. She'd probably do the same for any other crew member.

Chase Reyes
Chase Reyes

You best get ready for Mike to Starlight Breaker some bitches.

Evan Evans
Evan Evans

When she sees your dick

Ryder Nelson
Ryder Nelson

The ED does resemble the Season 1 Nanoha ED. Is this a hint? I look forward to seeing some befrending next week.

Ethan White
Ethan White

This isn't sausage!

John Bailey
John Bailey

I get the feeling that Shiro didn't realize just what they've signed up for until the Harekaze came face to face with a fireball bigger than the ship.

Christopher Davis
Christopher Davis

Maybe Shiro just has an inferiority complex and can't bear to not be able to pull off mikeshit.

Jackson Cook
Jackson Cook

But she just did, user. Having Tama save the day wit her mad space-rat skill is Mike-level shit right there.

Luis Anderson
Luis Anderson

What I'm saying is she wants to prove herself to be as capable as Mike instead of doing the sensible thing

Blake Green
Blake Green

until the Harekaze came face to face with a fireball bigger than the ship.
I don't think they should've come face to face with a fireball like that at this point, usually they would've undergone more training first. Overall she handled the situation pretty good though.

Robert Nguyen
Robert Nguyen

oh god yes

Joseph Rodriguez
Joseph Rodriguez

usually they would've undergone more training first.

Few in the USN have come face to face with a fireball like that. If you witness a MOAB being dumped on some sandnigger as a Marine, then yes, but there's been nothing quite like this surface action wise. Not even the USS Cole bombing was that big of a bang.

David Perry
David Perry

This entire crew acts better than most crews in actual navies if they actually pull their shit together mentally.

However, Mike's and Shiro's shortcomings show that they're are still just high school girls not seasoned veterans. Don't know particularly why people are so hard of them when they make stupid decisions.

Mason Parker
Mason Parker

Of course Moka that much of a girl that he'd lose his mind totally.

Sebastian Bennett
Sebastian Bennett

Yeah..., after this episode, this image is no longer applicable.

Brody Bailey
Brody Bailey

I want to sexually put my penis in her vagina if you know what I mean.

Easton Jenkins
Easton Jenkins

Dissect that fucking hamster!

Austin Powell
Austin Powell

She just might be my favorite.

Jack Smith
Jack Smith

Because we expect a level of professionalism from them given how serious their situation is. They are in very deep shit and anything less than consummate display of seamanship and combat conduct would spell the end for the ship and everyone in it.

Josiah Phillips
Josiah Phillips

we
Speak for yourself.

Bentley Diaz
Bentley Diaz

For the same reason people went angry with the freshmen team girls of GuP when they panicked in their first battle: because they al are /a/rmchair generals that think THEY wouldn't screw up under tension, of course.
Pic related. What veteran would think about that.

Michael Price
Michael Price

consummate display of seamanship and combat conduct
From people that were never taught this.

Caleb Foster
Caleb Foster

Why does this little girl have a man's name?

Ryan Ross
Ryan Ross

Sup Ledouche who only wants CGDCT?

Lincoln Wright
Lincoln Wright

You do realize yen has no cents right?

Jason Garcia
Jason Garcia

little girl
You know that Mike's not really little nor a girl at that.

Luke Rogers
Luke Rogers

This post lost its fresh 3 episodes ago

Julian Turner
Julian Turner

Of course I do. I recognize that the Yen existed during the reign of the Showa Emperor during the restoration period, replacing the currency used in the shogunate. It wasn't a 1:1 ratio against the dollar even at its inception though.

That and the Euro came about during my lifetime when the Maastricht Treaty came into being after the pound got fucked over by Soros.

Dylan Carter
Dylan Carter

The New Currency Act of 1871 stipulated the adoption of the decimal accounting system of yen (1, 圓), sen (1⁄100, 銭), and rin (1⁄1000, 厘)
Educate yourself.

Hudson Harris
Hudson Harris

Mike crammed for it.

Cooper Evans
Cooper Evans

Technically brain signals are just electrical impulses between neurons so disrupting electronics would just a significantly less elegant application of their abilities.

Hudson Jones
Hudson Jones

Both sen and rin quickly lost relevance, but I don't expect user or even elevens to know of this.

Alexander Stewart
Alexander Stewart

The Japanese then decided to adopt a silver dollar coinage under the name of 'yen', meaning 'a round object'. The yen was officially adopted by the Meiji government in an Act signed on June 27, 1871.[10] The new currency was gradually introduced beginning from July of that year. The yen was therefore basically a dollar unit, like all dollars, descended from the Spanish Pieces of eight, and up until the year 1873, all the dollars in the world had more or less the same value.
Educate yourself.

Noah Collins
Noah Collins

Meiji Emperor. Fuck me and my derp.

Adam Nelson
Adam Nelson

I want to TORIKAJI IPPAI captain Mike's IPPAIS!

Adam Torres
Adam Torres

You would hear it everyday on financial news when they talk about stock or currency exxhange

Jack Bell
Jack Bell

Euros?

Asher Gray
Asher Gray

(etc)
All that dickwaving over mere currency
NOT RECOGNISING IT'S NO LONGER RELEVANT, NOT ANYMORE

Nicholas Diaz
Nicholas Diaz

June 27, 1871. Meiji pegged the Yen at 1500mg of gold equivalent, but it was silver based. The ratio of silver teal vs gold in Japan was higher than the rest of the world, so western powers flooded Japan with silver, and Japan had to move this to silver standards.

By 1897, Japan codified their currency act and switched to a gold standard for good, legally pegging their yen at 750mg worth of gold. This exchange ratio stayed until 1931 when Britain debased the pound sterling from gold with Japan following suit.

Ian Edwards
Ian Edwards

DARE KA... DARE KA TASKETEEE!!!

Hunter Collins
Hunter Collins

It wasn't a 1:1 ratio against the dollar even at its inception though.
I know you are backpedaling all the way to 1871
EUR is still worth more than USD. They were supposedly par initially.
Please backpedal some more.

Tyler Flores
Tyler Flores

wait, the fortune telling book say:

This month, for those who are Gemini, they need to be especially careful everyday. You might have quite a few encounter, but they're most likely illusion. Your luck would be particularly bad when you're next to water, please try to avoid waterside.
Lucky Item: Cat

Does that mean Shiro and Mike's encounter is a fake one? That surely explained why Mike would go for Moka despite such strong word from Shiro

Joshua Watson
Joshua Watson

see

Angel Barnes
Angel Barnes

Lucky Item: Cat
inb4 isoroku saves the fucking day next episode

Juan Price
Juan Price

Let's backpedal!
Euro started trading at 1:1.1686, dropped to parity by end of 1999, now sitting at 1:1.14

Brody Russell
Brody Russell

No, this is because a butthurt Euro thinks that the yen was always a cent equivalent, and the euro is a dollar equivalent, and there's no way that the Euro could ever drop so much in value as to be so worthless. Euros should go fuck of this AMERICAN site.

Anthony Parker
Anthony Parker

In haifuri world, Japan is a resource country and its money should have different value compare to real world?

Isaac Diaz
Isaac Diaz

Lets see how the Euro does after Brexit, more bail-outs, a couple of World Wars, and global warming that causes most of Japan to be flooded in a century or so.

Kevin Flores
Kevin Flores

Only thing I see is a butthurt Dollo being butthurt that this obsolete coinage is not getting a commeupance joke in the actual series.
Kindly stop chastising our reading neurons with that nonsense.
Only relevant coinage now are seeds.

Owen Walker
Owen Walker

Only relevant coinage now are seeds.

Anthony Bailey
Anthony Bailey

I'm surprised the german would lose discipline and change into her swimsuit.

Ryan Perry
Ryan Perry

proceeds to call americans fat an educated
that will show them
You're just deflecting because you're an uneducated balkan state Euro, and now that you completely lost the argument that you started because of your yuropride

Adam Adams
Adam Adams

You clearly don't understand how important Urlauben is for a typical German.

Kayden Allen
Kayden Allen

I'm not the user you're arguing with, I'm the user telling you both your coins are obsolete, you idiot

Carter Williams
Carter Williams

She's not wearing white socks with sandals. She can't possibly be one of us.

Jackson Johnson
Jackson Johnson

I suppose because Britian is not part of the Euro world, so it would affect European political structure but not as much to the financial aspect?

If someone want to, governments can always reprint their money in new value, regardless of their actual economic performance

Brody Sanders
Brody Sanders

I want to do things with Mii-tan that wouldn't even fly in Germany

Robert Parker
Robert Parker

She couldn't get those if they're still over the Spee now could she? Same goes for the RV. If she can't just go to Danemark and stay over some RV park, then she's got no choice but to do this mit japanischen.

Nolan Ramirez
Nolan Ramirez

implying political stability has nothing to do with faith in currency
Are all balks this dumb?

Lincoln Wilson
Lincoln Wilson

Buy in Haifuri the only things that fly are blimps

Easton Brown
Easton Brown

owning a digital watch
Disgusting

Jaxon Robinson
Jaxon Robinson

Don't worry, everything will make sense in the end I hope.

Jordan Wright
Jordan Wright

And missiles.

Levi Stewart
Levi Stewart

Why is she so much better than her sister?

Wyatt Smith
Wyatt Smith

Well it does involve my missile and her blimps

Joseph Turner
Joseph Turner

Just finished watching the episode, hearing my hometown get namedropped sure was surprising. Why the hell would some random japanese writer even know about the Heppenheimer castle?

Carson Sullivan
Carson Sullivan

Rice is nice.

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