Amagi Park is the only good Kyoani anime of the decade

Blake Harris
Blake Harris

Amagi Park is the only good Kyoani anime of the decade.

Saved by mascots, not the bitches.

Caleb Howard
Caleb Howard

I love Amagi but it's mid tier KyoAni.

Lincoln Gomez
Lincoln Gomez

Compared with their earlier works, maybe. But he talked about the last decade.

Camden Lopez
Camden Lopez

there will never be an Elementario SoL anime

Sebastian Lopez
Sebastian Lopez

It is good but it's not the only one, no.

Anthony Cruz
Anthony Cruz

It's still mid tier this decade.

Matthew Rivera
Matthew Rivera

Compared with what?

Cooper Anderson
Cooper Anderson

Nichijou, Disappearance, K-On S2, Hibike, Tamako Love Story, Hyouka

Blake Perry
Blake Perry

but they are adult right as they drank beer?

Robert Taylor
Robert Taylor

The current decade is past 2010, so I can concede that Nichijou and Tamako are above Amagi in the KyoAni ranking. That still means Amagi is among their top series.

Kayden Powell
Kayden Powell

Not every SoL anime has to have the characters be in high school.
I just want more Earth in my life.

Kevin Carter
Kevin Carter

bu..but then they are not pure and sexually active

Ryan Sullivan
Ryan Sullivan

Liking a show with characters named after trashy black entertainers.
Spotted the wiggers.

Jace Perez
Jace Perez

Kobori is cute. CUTE.

Brandon Howard
Brandon Howard

Nichijou

Stopped reading there.

It was shit. SHIT

Dominic Nelson
Dominic Nelson

Will they ever top Amagi's faces? Phantom World had good ones but they just weren't Amagi tier.

Austin Ramirez
Austin Ramirez

Koboring

Josiah Cook
Josiah Cook

The only shit thing here is your abominable taste.

Connor Walker
Connor Walker

Will they ever top Amagi's faces? Phantom World had good ones but they just weren't Amagi tier.
No because it was a true gem for adults, not some shit otaku pandering show.

Angel Powell
Angel Powell

My taste is superb and Nichijou was a stinking pile of shit but that's fine because it shows how only newfriends like you would like it, not knowing about real good old comedy shows. Your new generation is the worst I've seen on Sup Forums since 2004-2005.

Adam Sanders
Adam Sanders

I just want them to stop adapting shitty LN. When will they save anime again, Sup Forums?

Adam Morales
Adam Morales

using amagi for such a fedora-tier post
Disgusting

Isaac Johnson
Isaac Johnson

You couldn't be more wrong with your assumptions, but hey, I'll play along.
Tell me what you consider a real good old comedy show then. Enlighten me, oldfag sempai.

Lincoln Diaz
Lincoln Diaz

But KnK was fine.

Mason Adams
Mason Adams

Average as fuck, mascots were the only saving grace.

Grayson Powell
Grayson Powell

It was dreadful.

Gabriel Reed
Gabriel Reed

KnK was the best anime ever made.

Wyatt Adams
Wyatt Adams

Why is Indiana Jones there?

Carson Moore
Carson Moore

/wsr/

Connor Sanchez
Connor Sanchez

But KnK was fine.
You are not wrong.

Ian Cruz
Ian Cruz

You're dreadful.

Robert Campbell
Robert Campbell

I think he meant this.

Nolan Brown
Nolan Brown

I wasn't asking for recommendations.
I was just curious to know what you consider good comedy anime, since your taste is so much better than mine.
Put your money where your mouth is, mate.

David Hughes
David Hughes

How do I unsubscribe from your blog?

Juan Taylor
Juan Taylor

How do I get you to answer a simple question?

Noah Adams
Noah Adams

They make good stuff, but they should fire whoever is the one who picks what they adapt.

Leo Rivera
Leo Rivera

The mascots were pretty annoying and unfunny. Amagi in general had some of the worst comedic timing I've seen in anime. Takemoto can't into comedy

Hudson Powell
Hudson Powell

They make good stuff, but they should fire whoever is the one who picks what they adapt.
What are you talking about?

If you are talking about Kadokawa and such, those are employers hiring them for a job. They don't get to pick. If you are talking about in-house projects, they don't have many stories they CAN pick, they are literally working with what little they got.

Luke Harris
Luke Harris

I bet you liked nichishit

Christian Adams
Christian Adams

Amagi was so shit.

Gavin Clark
Gavin Clark

dose lackluster action scenes

I mean they looked nice and all, but something was off about them, I think the sound design made them feel dull and there wasn't enough impact.

Also megane a shit

Julian Lee
Julian Lee

I bet you liked nichishit

Jordan Young
Jordan Young

megane is my type

Wyatt Anderson
Wyatt Anderson

It was alright, better than Phantom World, at the very least.

Josiah Carter
Josiah Carter

Amagi in general had some of the worst comedic timing I've seen in anime. Takemoto can't into comedy
This isn't a good joke.

Jack Wilson
Jack Wilson

I barely remember KnK because I hated every minute of what I watched, but I always assumed that I didn't like the action scenes because I couldn't give less of a fuck about the terrible characters.

Yuushibu aired in the same season with the same animation director, had a quarter of the budget or talent, but I was still more invested in those action scenes.

Ryan Anderson
Ryan Anderson

same animation director

I'm quite the KyoAni fanboy but shit, you're right. How can Kyoani fuck it up so bad?

Jace Powell
Jace Powell

KnK had terrible characters
More invested in Yuushibu
wew lad

Leo Williams
Leo Williams

Kyoukai no Kanata had bad choreography. I'm impressed with how they improved in its OVA+movie, and Phantom World though.

Also honestly Kyoukai no Kanata's OVA was pretty good. I didn't like the TV series or movie, and I'd recommend it to anyone who didn't either.

Isaac Perez
Isaac Perez

Kyoukai no Kanata had bad choreography
Love this meme, especially when people who don't know what choreography means and started spouting it in a desperate attempt to talk bad about of show.

Matthew Morris
Matthew Morris

bad choreography
bitch please

Hudson Cook
Hudson Cook

Amaburi had better midriffs.

James Rogers
James Rogers

God DAMN

Andrew Roberts
Andrew Roberts

Muse just worked harder for hers. Mirai can't afford to eat.

Isaac Hernandez
Isaac Hernandez

KnK > KnK > KnK

Prove me wrong, faggots.

James Long
James Long

KnK > KnK > KnK
are you kidding me?
KnK > Knk >KnK
This is fact.

Jacob Harris
Jacob Harris

Because they were the worst part.

Christopher Harris
Christopher Harris

KnK > KnK > KnK > KnK

Jack Gonzalez
Jack Gonzalez

Nichijou is the only KyoAni show that I can't enjoy, everything else after that had been real great.

Now that that's been said,
Who's the flattest KyoAni girl?

Gavin Jones
Gavin Jones

Latifa

Wyatt Turner
Wyatt Turner

Who's the flattest KyoAni girl?

Zachary Edwards
Zachary Edwards

I love the old fart mascots and the sexy bitches too. It was a really fun show. Can't believe it didn't sell more than it did.

Ethan Ross
Ethan Ross

i prefer fleshy tummy

Angel Ward
Angel Ward

I'm pretty sure he has a penis

Chase Clark
Chase Clark

come on, it is called ''magnetic'' voice

Lucas Wright
Lucas Wright

She just has a husky voice you asshole

Julian Scott
Julian Scott

Godly taste.

Tyler Russell
Tyler Russell

Amagi in general had some of the worst comedic timing I've seen in anime
Pretty much this. It was tolerable when it avoided comedy or drama, which means not too often.

Oliver Stewart
Oliver Stewart

Amagi in general had some of the worst comedic timing I've seen in anime
is this nigger serious?

Brandon Russell
Brandon Russell

/a/ said it was gonna be THE MONOGATARI KILLER
Kyonifags are so cute
HAIL SHAFT!

Aaron Jones
Aaron Jones

Ok let me tell you this, KNK had a real shitty depth for characters that you barely cared for at that point like not knowing the actions of the characters and understanding the villains. It never explained how the mc got his immortality which was very important and was shrugged off as if it was barely anything. The point where it lost the mood of the show by trying to be humorous felt very dry for its setting especially involving the fetishes. Left too many plot holes and left the most powerful world building and setting aspect too unexplored. Trying to add moe aspects to that show really hurt the uniformity of the setting thus does not fit. And adding that bullshit with her coming back was like a real cop out especially with the aspect of her having amnesia.

Jacob Brown
Jacob Brown

Mascots were top tier but the girls where nothing to sneeze at.

Parker Stewart
Parker Stewart

Pretty sure the only thing that can kill Monogatari is Monogatari.

That is the Otaku magnum opus, they revere it like it's some kind of neckbeard holy book. NisiOisiN can release a giant steaming pile of shit and they will eat it and beg for more.

Monogatari fans are the Blizzard fans of anime.

Personally, I like the girls and the series is okay but I have never thought it was superior to other harems like many of it's fanbase claim it is. Although, they claim it isn't harem at all but some kind of superior transcendent echii series.

John Kelly
John Kelly

Forgot pic

Carter Jenkins
Carter Jenkins

The first season was quite special. It got somewhat repetitive at some point while Nise and the last seasons are just the same formula all over again with more ecchi.

Alexander Cox
Alexander Cox

Blizzard fans of anime

More like the CoD of anime
More like the Pats fans of anime
More like the Game of Thrones fans of anime
More like the Death Grips fans of anime

Anything else?

Isaac Torres
Isaac Torres

Hyouka is probably their best TV anime 2011-2016.
Euphonium was also better than Amagi.

Amagi is just average, just seasonal filler. It's generic, and does nothing that well.
It's the level of Free, okay to watch but nothing special.

James Reyes
James Reyes

Amagi is just average, just seasonal filler. It's generic, and does nothing that well.

Funny how you think that Euph and Hyok have some high ground over Amaburi

Hunter Phillips
Hunter Phillips

Hibike is better than Hyouka.

Camden Hernandez
Camden Hernandez

Almost anything is better than Hyouka.

Caleb Adams
Caleb Adams

Hyouka is a masterpiece, one of the better anime of this decade.
Euphonium is just like Free, just much better at everything. At their core, they are literally the same anime.

I also want to mention Tamako Market, the parts without the bird are really good.

Josiah Baker
Josiah Baker

Euphonium manages to be more of a sport anime than Free will ever be.

Carson Hill
Carson Hill

Hibike
not better than Amagi

Chase Sanders
Chase Sanders

This was the dumbest thing
Who comes up with these pre-airing shitpost phraes

Ryan Collins
Ryan Collins

Oh shit it's that world from that nature docs I watched as a kid

Adrian Ross
Adrian Ross

there are people who don't like Tirami

Jordan Hall
Jordan Hall

hibekek is hot garbage

Robert Russell
Robert Russell

Hibike is one of KyoAni's best works and the best anime of its season.

Austin Price
Austin Price

Hibike is a fantastic show user. What's your problem with it?

Brody Brooks
Brody Brooks

best anime of its year*
FTFY

Aaron Martin
Aaron Martin

You are baiting harder than Hibike baits the yurifags.

Gavin Harris
Gavin Harris

It's not.

Henry Garcia
Henry Garcia

bait
Nice meme.

Noah Johnson
Noah Johnson

The moment you try to argue something its the moment I try to substantiate my claims.

It is.

Cameron Clark
Cameron Clark

It is.
Which part?

Nicholas Fisher
Nicholas Fisher

Which part is not?
The characters are superior, their development is superior, the interactions between them are superior, the music is superior, the art is superior.
Which part of Amagi is better than Hibike? Comedy? Hibike is not even a comedy show.

Thomas Cooper
Thomas Cooper

Hibike characters superior? They are all cut by the same pattern.
Music? Neither of the series has a really remarkable OST.
Art? Arguable, Amagi has better design, Hibike traced backgrounds behind a ton of overused AE filters.
Amagi is a comedy and manages to be good at it. Hibike fails to excel at anything.

Robert Rodriguez
Robert Rodriguez

I'm a huge Kyoanifag and I'll never understand why Amagi gets the love.

It was okay and ultimately one of the weakest shows from Kyoani.

Connor Williams
Connor Williams

it wasn't even funny

Charles Morris
Charles Morris

You have shit taste. It's a fact.

Alexander Nelson
Alexander Nelson

i chuckle first during where Kannie scream Sento twice in a roll in the dungeon

Luke Rodriguez
Luke Rodriguez

They are all cut by the same pattern.
What are you talking about? There are characters with very different motivations and backgrounds in Hibike.
Music? Neither of the series has a really remarkable OST.
That's subjective, what's not is the fact that Hibike has a great deal of attention put into the music, to the point that you can clearly tell which player is better just by listening to it or when the band is playing awfully.

Art? Arguable, Amagi has better design, Hibike traced backgrounds behind a ton of overused AE filters.
No it's not, the instruments of Hibike are some of the best drawn instruments in any show.
And the talk about characters is preposterous, every single background character in Hibike has a unique design, even mob characters that don't have a single individual line in the whole show are instantly recognizable.
Tracing backgrounds behind filters is not a rare practice in the industry, what's important is the end result.
Hibike fails to excel at anything.
Hibike excels at portraying teenager drama in the context of a band practicing to get far in competitions.

Lucas Miller
Lucas Miller

They are all cut by the same pattern.
Why do you mean by this?

Arguable, Amagi has better design, Hibike traced backgrounds behind a ton of overused AE filters.
I agree somewhat on the latter points (not the tracing, almost all artists draw from referential material), but I really don't think the character designs are better in Amagi (they're really just more vibrant and cartoonish) and Hibike has far, far better color design.

Jeremiah Williams
Jeremiah Williams

Not as weak as hyoukshit and yurikek, those two are the definition of overrated (by plebs)

Xavier Perez
Xavier Perez

KnK isn't about the action.

Justin Martin
Justin Martin

What's the average budget of a kyoani show?

Evan Lewis
Evan Lewis

KNK had a real shitty depth for characters
Kek
Do you literally need everything spelled out for you? I bet you think Aki loved Mirai because she had glasses.

Lucas Adams
Lucas Adams

What are you talking about? There are characters with very different motivations and backgrounds in Hibike.
They all failed to make me care about them. I prefer Amagi's vibrant characters and I actually could relate with them and their struggles.

That's subjective, what's not is the fact that Hibike has a great deal of attention put into the music, to the point that you can clearly tell which player is better just by listening to it or when the band is playing awfully.
That's sounds design rather than OST, which was better in hibike (which is to be expected).

No it's not, the instruments of Hibike are some of the best drawn instruments in any show.
And the talk about characters is preposterous, every single background character in Hibike has a unique design, even mob characters that don't have a single individual line in the whole show are instantly recognizable.
Tracing backgrounds behind filters is not a rare practice in the industry, what's important is the end result.
Highly detailed instruments copied from reference and which always looked painfully detached from the characters fail to impress me.
I care more about making the important characters distinguishable than making 1000 different hairstyles for every single mob character, to be honest.
Also, the problem with tracing backgrounds is that they fail to create meaningful scenery to support the narrative, which should be the point of backgrounds and not just looking pretty.

Hibike excels at portraying teenager drama in the context of a band practicing to get far in competitions.
Hibike fails to portray a real teenager at all.

Jayden Nelson
Jayden Nelson

hyoukshit and yurikek
this is the definition of trying too hard

Anthony Hall
Anthony Hall

They all failed to make me care about them
Dude. That doesn't mean they're the same.

Nathaniel Ross
Nathaniel Ross

Tracing backgrounds
I like this meme

Luke Brooks
Luke Brooks

They all failed to make me care about them.
How so?

Highly detailed instruments copied from reference and which always looked painfully detached from the characters fail to impress me.
Every artist draws from reference and Hibike has far and away the instrument animation of any show I've ever seen. They really don't even feel disconnected from the world, at least not any more so than real instruments do. Instruments do look rather strange.

Luke Clark
Luke Clark

I prefer Amagi's vibrant characters and I actually could relate with them and their struggles.
Yeah, you seem like the kind of person that could relate with Sylphy's brain problems

Aiden Moore
Aiden Moore

They all failed to make me care about them.
That's subjective.
You can't really say that every character is the same just because you didn't like any of them.
Highly detailed instruments copied from reference and which always looked painfully detached from the characters fail to impress me.
But they don't look painfully detached from characters.
And of course they're copied from reference if they want to draw realistic looking instruments, what kind of criticism is that? If they're uncapable of drawing instruments without looking at reference photos they're shit?
I care more about making the important characters distinguishable
But every single main character is instantly recognizable too.
Hibike fails to portray a real teenager at all.
The only character that is somewhat unrealistic is Reina.

Carter Smith
Carter Smith

arguing with autists

James Brown
James Brown

Yeah, you seem like the kind of person that could relate with Sylphy's brain problems
So mature.

Brayden Adams
Brayden Adams

Where do you think we are

Parker Bailey
Parker Bailey

Say, what's unreal about Reina?

David Perry
David Perry

ayyy lmao
he thinks nichijou is good

Gavin Carter
Gavin Carter

She's too autistic.

Nathaniel Evans
Nathaniel Evans

It is. Amagi is better anyway.

Brayden Wright
Brayden Wright

People who like Fumoffu but dislike AmaBuri

Why? It's the same type of comedy.

Parker Martin
Parker Martin

It's not. Fumoffu was pretty funny but Amaburi wasn't funny at all.

Ethan Martinez
Ethan Martinez

I like Amaburi, but not because it was funny. It just had really hot girls. Fumoffu is fucking dog shit. What is so funny about a kid pulling out his glock at school? That's all that happens. That and Tsundere shenanigans. Fuck Chidorifags.

Eli Miller
Eli Miller

It is.

Wyatt Taylor
Wyatt Taylor

your taste is shit and you know it. just admit it instead of running away.

Colton Fisher
Colton Fisher

They're both hilarious. I miss both of those shows.

Cooper Wood
Cooper Wood

Do you literally need everything spelled out for you?

This is a non-committal excuse idiots make so they don't have to make a meaningful argument for why their show is good.

Gabriel Garcia
Gabriel Garcia

Because Kyoanifags are retarded though nowhere as much as you.

Carter Ross
Carter Ross

GodAnifags are sensible.

Easton Gutierrez
Easton Gutierrez

I'm a huge Kyoanifag and I'll never understand why Amagi gets the love.

Oh, Malik, that's because your taste is complete and total SHIT.

Angel Howard
Angel Howard

Arguable and only four of those are shows (not fair to compare a show with a movie)
Being worse than 4 shows out of 6 years is definitely still better than mid tier

David Williams
David Williams

No FMP
No Rewrite
No Planetarian

You lived long enough to see kyoani neglected out of every big project.

Hudson Murphy
Hudson Murphy

No FMP
We don't know which studio is doing FMP.
No Rewrite
No Planetarian
Keyshit is dead. KyoAni was smart to move on when they did.

Brody King
Brody King

AmuBuri was the only Kyoani show I enjoyed watching to the end.
Nichijou made me want to kill myself.

Grayson Ortiz
Grayson Ortiz

Nichijou made me want to kill myself.
What stopped you?

Christopher Garcia
Christopher Garcia

I decided to dedicate my life to killing kyoani instead, one crappy imageboard post at a time.

Cameron Hernandez
Cameron Hernandez

Good luck with that, Yamakan.

David Morales
David Morales

You are not being very successful at it.

Matthew Martinez
Matthew Martinez

All Kyoani anime are enjoyable, and at the very least nice to look at

Logan Watson
Logan Watson

Truth

Robert Cruz
Robert Cruz

and at the very least nice to look at
You know, people keep saying this but there's really a limit to how much of the k-on sameface you can take before it starts looking like shit.

Aiden Jenkins
Aiden Jenkins

The limit was K-ON.

Owen Baker
Owen Baker

It was K-ON!!

Sebastian Mitchell
Sebastian Mitchell

Sento being autistic moe warmed my heart.

Christian Lopez
Christian Lopez

k-on sameface
Old, tired, and inaccurate meme. Let it die already.

Justin Taylor
Justin Taylor

That doesn't make any sense. Even if I accept the existence of the "K-On sameface" meme, that doesn't make them magically start looking worse, it would just be you getting tired of a particular type of face.

Liam Morris
Liam Morris

Knk > Knk > Knk >knk
fuck I though the first 3 already including kabenari

Daniel Evans
Daniel Evans

the mascots were the worst part

Nathan King
Nathan King

too far

Ian Foster
Ian Foster

nah

Jackson Hall
Jackson Hall

More like this?

Brody Martin
Brody Martin

yeah

Evan Anderson
Evan Anderson

the mascots were the worst part
You are the worst part of Sup Forums

Tyler Gonzalez
Tyler Gonzalez

What a shitty bait.

Justin Jenkins
Justin Jenkins

I hope you choke on a lego

Kayden Miller
Kayden Miller

I hope you step on one

Charles Miller
Charles Miller

Easy there.

Hudson King
Hudson King

KNK had a real shitty depth for characters that you barely cared for at that point like not knowing the actions of the characters and understanding the villains
You had to be retarded not to understand the characters and the villains, and no one but shitposters who watched the show specifically to complain got mad that the characters made jokes and had quirks. You sound like the kind of idiot who thinks that Hiromi only followed his sister around because he wanted to fuck her.

It never explained how the mc got his immortality which was very important and was shrugged off as if it was barely anything
Oh I get, you're one of those idiots who who thinks everything needs to be like LNshit where they explain literally every detail of everyone's power and backstory. That's garbage story telling and you should feel bad.

Left too many plot holes
Literally 0, and the threads have been explaining to you idiots what happened since it aired.

And adding that bullshit with her coming back was like a real cop out
Sure, if you weren't paying attention.

And way to completely not mention the choreography which you were completely fucking wrong about, because you shitposting retards desperately looks for bad things to saw about the show despite not actually knowing anything about it. Good job reminding us all how stupid you are.

Andrew James
Andrew James

Yeah sorry that's taking it too far.

Adam James
Adam James

I'm gonna puke.

Aiden Murphy
Aiden Murphy

because you realized how bad your taste is?

Michael Brooks
Michael Brooks

They're adapting an LN and the stuff on screen most of the time doesn't matter at all. Did you go in trying to hate it or something? Monogatari means story and they deliver one hell of a story.

Jace Ward
Jace Ward

the mascots were the worst part

Elijah Gomez
Elijah Gomez

I want Salama to step on me

Aiden Gonzalez
Aiden Gonzalez

I have never seen someone provide an educated, legitimate argument as to why Amagi is better than average.

Adrian Anderson
Adrian Anderson

I have never seen someone provide an educated, legitimate argument as to why Amagi isn't better than average.

Jace Lee
Jace Lee

Textbook Amagifag argument, everybody.
Go be a child somewhere besides Sup Forums.

Dominic Sullivan
Dominic Sullivan

Textbook anti-Amagifag argument, everybody.
Go be a child somewhere besides Sup Forums.

Jaxson Collins
Jaxson Collins

In other words you don't have an argument for him.
Go shitpost somewhere besides Sup Forums.

Christian Parker
Christian Parker

Amagi actually has some semblance of a plot which puts it miles above anything Kyoani's made in the last 5 years at least.

Jonathan Cruz
Jonathan Cruz

plotbabbys

Jeremiah Long
Jeremiah Long

Does anyone here know what plot means or does it only apply to shows you like?

Parker Rogers
Parker Rogers

Can't argue with that. Nichijou was nice but it wasn't something that one gets invested in and it didn't sell well for several good reasons despite how pleasant the show was overall. ABP might have had high school as a thing, but it wasn't what defined the characters and it wasn't the main setting for the show; that alone made it so much better. Mascots were top tier and there were enough grown-ass adults to balance it all out. The characters struggled with both everyday and unique problems, there were no main/supporting characters that were simply one-shot garbage templates for a single episode, and were overall engaging. It wasn't perfect (shady businessman who just happens to be the ebul wizrd in disguise) but it was definitely something that had some care put into it.

The rest of KyoAni for the last decade is the same high school garbage with an M Night Shamalamadingdong twist, be it fighting or relationship trash.

John Morales
John Morales

Nichijou sold more than Amagi and aired on NHK-E though.

Easton Walker
Easton Walker

What is so funny about a kid pulling out his glock at school?
americans

Ryder Parker
Ryder Parker

Thank god. Amagi was just hollow otaku trash. Takemoto is a washed up hack.

Daniel Russell
Daniel Russell

Nichijou sold more than Amagi
Sorry to break it to you but it didn't.

Jayden Anderson
Jayden Anderson

Kenny West saves misc and anime

How can one musician be so based?

Jayden King
Jayden King

Point still stands; it was easily the best plot-driven show they've had in years.

Leo Gonzalez
Leo Gonzalez

If anything that's Hibike, but what exactly do you mean by "plot driven?"

Carson Garcia
Carson Garcia

nichijou sold more
lol no

Josiah Rivera
Josiah Rivera

Not even remotely close. You actually have to be insane to think this.

David Lee
David Lee

with an M Night Shamalamadingdong twist
Like what?

Sebastian Ortiz
Sebastian Ortiz

Damn, CC is so hot almost no matter what she wears.

Dominic Stewart
Dominic Stewart

Why? I mean even if you prefer Hyouka it's not like there's a massive gap of quality between the two.

Jayden Price
Jayden Price

Eh, nichijou was significantly more easy to get invested in. Amagi had the more unique plot yes, but in the end plot won't get you far if everything else is dull. Also Amagi's last 2 episodes were dogshit.

Caleb Bell
Caleb Bell

Hibike is a good music drama that's structured like a sports anime with solid animation, art and directing. Hyouka is a masterpiece of the medium, and on a different level. There is absolutely a massive gap between the two.

Camden Martinez
Camden Martinez

Hyouka is a masterpiece of the medium

You've said absolutely nothing about it with that sentence.

Daniel Hill
Daniel Hill

It excels in literally every area. Art, animation, music, directing, dialog, character development, etc. Every aspect of it is air tight, and it's one of the few shows that actually makes use of the visual medium to show you the story instead of just telling it, and even the parts that tell it are fantastic (to be fair, a lot is lost in translation since the author's writing is very "clever" in Japanese and it just doesn't translate as well into English). Hibike is a by the books sports team story, and despite some nice looking episodes, doesn't push the medium nearly as far as Hyouka. You're trying to compare a Cadillac to a Ferrari.

But hey, I can already tell from your comments that you're going to act like a passive aggressive faggot and start saying "Well I think that's kinda subjective since I don't really see what's so special in Hyouka and I really liked to pretend Hibike was a great yuri romance story, so I'll just say it's all a matter of subjective opinion."

Grayson Barnes
Grayson Barnes

Eh, the plot was thin at best, and some of it isn't particularly unique. I thought Latifa's subplot almost ruined the show.
Luckily, that doesn't stop the show to be wholly entertaining.

Dylan Baker
Dylan Baker

I don't see it. Hyouka's a well-executed SoL with light mystery elements but it has plenty of problems, and, in my opinion, bigger problems than Hibike does.

You're basically just saying it's extremely well executed. Pretty much everything you say here can be applied to almost any good show, Hibike included. What pushes Hyouka above other well executed shows?

Ryan Jackson
Ryan Jackson

comments

That was the first reply I've made to you. I'm not the user you were talking to prior.

But yeah, that sounds like a load of shit anyways. You sound like you're just talking it up.

Brayden Davis
Brayden Davis

Of the decade.
Amagi is the only good Kyoani anime period.

Dylan Perry
Dylan Perry

only bad*

Cameron Rodriguez
Cameron Rodriguez

I don't see it. Hyouka's a well-executed SoL with light mystery elements but it has plenty of problems
That's a gross oversimplification, and I'd love to hear about these imaginary flaws.

You're basically just saying it's extremely well executed. Pretty much everything you say here can be applied to almost any good show
No I'm not, not even close. The dialog between the two isn't even comparable. The detail in the art in Hyouka is on another level. The movie arc in Hyouka alone is better than anything Hibike tries. The entire thing is them picking apart a mystery movie and making commentary on the genre, while at the same time being in a mystery show that the commentary directly applies to. Things like the point about mysteries be inherently kind of scary because of the element of the unknown, despite no danger present in the story while the atmosphere shifts to that creepy house despite no danger ever being in the story are clever. Seriously, watch how that entire thing is put together from lighting, music and cinematography all the way down to the character interactions and monologues about what's going on. Nothing in Hibike even approaches it. Go watch the conversations Oreki has with Irisu and pay attention to how the visuals complement his state of mind, it's perfectly composed. Absolutely nothing in Hibike is on that level, it's really just a good sports drama, but instead of sports it's music.

Your post doesn't count because I say so
Only you have to substantiate what you say, I can just ignore everything and write it off because I feel like it
You're literally retarded and nothing you post contributes to actual discussion. Stop wasting everyone's time.

Owen Jenkins
Owen Jenkins

Your post doesn't count because I say so

You said nothing. Calling Hyouka a "masterpiece" doesn't say anything about what makes it a better work than Euphonium. He clearly doesn't think it is, elsewise he wouldn't make the comparison in the first place.
So with that post you made you contributed nothing to actual discussion while I was trying to get you to actually say something of substance. It's more contribution than you were doing up to that point, that's for sure.

It took you this many posts to actually say something of value, so you calling me retarded doesn't make you any less wrong.

Jeremiah Powell
Jeremiah Powell

No I'm not, not even close. The dialog between the two isn't even comparable. The detail in the art in Hyouka is on another level. The movie arc in Hyouka alone is better than anything Hibike tries.
No the thing I like is better

The entire thing is them picking apart a mystery movie and making commentary on the genre, while at the same time being in a mystery show that the commentary directly applies to. Things like the point about mysteries be inherently kind of scary because of the element of the unknown, despite no danger present in the story while the atmosphere shifts to that creepy house despite no danger ever being in the story are clever.
Here is a vague summary of the thing I like.

Seriously, watch how that entire thing is put together from lighting, music and cinematography all the way down to the character interactions and monologues about what's going on. Nothing in Hibike even approaches it. Go watch the conversations Oreki has with Irisu and pay attention to how the visuals complement his state of mind, it's perfectly composed. Absolutely nothing in Hibike is on that level, it's really just a good sports drama, but instead of sports it's music.
Seriously look, literally everything is better in every way.

Absolutely nothing in Hibike is on that level, it's really just a good sports drama, but instead of sports it's music.
Hibike is in a genre I dislike so it couldn't possibly be better than my show

I could replace elements from this to make it in favor of Hibike and it would be equally valid and coherent.

and I'd love to hear about these imaginary flaws.
Hyouka has a boring cast, especially when compared to Hibike. Not a bad cast, mind you, just not a particularly good one.

Christian Gray
Christian Gray

This is probably one of the best shows that included really great old men characters.

Jack Morris
Jack Morris

Two people stated their opinions, but you're the one who I disagree with you can't say anything without substantiating it
No, you're the idiot.

I could replace elements from this to make it in favor of Hibike and it would be equally valid and coherent.
No you can't, not at all. Hibike doesn't use nearly the same level of detail or nuance with the directing and has nothing approaching a meta commentary. You're just an idiot who like yuri bait high school drama, and now you're honestly pretending that "I like these characters" means that the show has all of the directing and composition elements I talked about.

Hyouka has a boring cast, especially when compared to Hibike.
Yup, like I said, you just like the yuribait high school drama. It's my fault from expecting anything else from someone deluded enough to say Hibike is even close to as good as Hyouka.

Adrian Cooper
Adrian Cooper

Two people stated their opinions, but you're the one who I disagree with you can't say anything without substantiating it

Woah, it's like you can read my mind!

But I don't. I think Hyouka is better than Hibike. But you're obnoxious when you make vague statements with no value when you talk something up and call it a masterpiece.

And look at you getting assblasted because you and some other guy don't see things the same way. And with the way you're presumptuously putting words in his mouth and mine, you're also definitely more close minded than he is.

Isaiah Lee
Isaiah Lee

Hibike doesn't use nearly the same level of detail or nuance with the directing and has nothing approaching a meta commentary.
Can you provide any kind of examples or reasoning for this other than just stating it outright or explaining basic elements of the show?

You're just an idiot who like yuri bait high school drama
And you're a pretentious pseudo-intellectual who likes trippy, surreal visuals and Oreki's totally cool and apathetic character archetype.

means that the show has all of the directing and composition elements I talked about.
Anyways, to do a bit of actual substantive criticism to support my own argument, I believe it does. For example, take the episode 8 mountain walk. In it, we are clued into both characters stances toward the things they do in general (Reina going all out whereas Kumiko half-asses it) with the character outfits, the characters' stances toward each other (Kumiko follows Reina up the mountain), and even a slight suggestion of their ultimate ability (both end up at the same heights, and one could even suggest Kumiko's path is superior due to her managing to make it up without hurting herself).
At any rate, it's a fantastic scene that exhibits all of the elements of symbolic cinematography and I think it does it better than pretty much any scene in Hyouka, though I'm certainly willing to be convinced otherwise in that particular regard.

As to the characters, to compare the MC's alone, Kumiko is far more interesting and relatable. Her primary dilemma is far more reasonable and compelling, and it's brought to a far more conclusive and cathartic conclusion than Oreki's is. She's also just much more entertaining as a character, but that is admittedly far more subjective.

Lucas Collins
Lucas Collins

Hey user, looks like you forgot to say anything of worth or substance and just spouted a whole lot of nothing.

some other guy don't see things the same way. And with the way you're presumptuously putting words in his mouth and mine
You're an idiot because you haven't actually made a single post of worth, and he's an idiot because after asking why Hyouka was good, he said "Wel that all applies to Hibike as well" when it absolutely 100% does not, and he just likes the high school girl drama.

Can you provide any kind of examples or reasoning for this other than just stating it outright or explaining basic elements of the show?
Are you fucking retarded, or just pretending?

And you're a pretentious pseudo-intellectual who likes trippy, surreal visuals and Oreki's totally cool and apathetic character archetype.
Ok, so definitely actually retarded.

Don't feel bad that you couldn't follow Hyouka, but don't pretend the basic high school drama was better because all you could see in Hyouka was "surreal and trippy visuals". This is by far the weakest "criticism" of the show that exists.

At any rate, it's a fantastic scene that exhibits all of the elements of symbolic cinematography and I think it does it better than pretty much any scene in Hyouka
You have absolutely no grasp of what cinematography is, and I sincerely mean that.

Kumiko is far more interesting and relatable
Sure, if you're a teenage girl whose level of interest in a character is based on self inserting. Please go ahead and continue pretending that the people who liked the characters in Hyouka all just wanted to self insert as a lazy smart guy.

Nolan Price
Nolan Price

You know, I actually tried to have a conversation with you, and now you're just saying I'm wrong just because. Please come back when you learn to actually say things of value instead of spouting vague, stupid bullshit.

Hunter Roberts
Hunter Roberts

I actually tried to have a conversation with you, and now you're just saying I'm wrong just because.
No you fucking idiot, completely misusing terms and making statements that show an utter lack of understanding of the subject material (in this case, cinematography and directing) is not "trying to have a conversation". It's being a pretentious asshole because you think your subjective feelings towards the characters means you can talk about technical aspects of a show and just start inventing new definitions for words and saying asinine garbage like "That entire breakdown of the movie arc could be applied to Hibike as well" when what you're saying doesn't make a shred of sense. You like the pretend lesbians, you thought the mountain climbing scene looked pretty and it made your plus sized panties wet. Stop pretending you've said anything of worth, or that someone who actual knows what the words they use mean is the one spouting vague bullshit.

Let me reiterate again: you are blindingly ignorant and pretentious. Your ideas are worthless when you don't even understand the concepts you're so fervently arguing.

Christian Scott
Christian Scott

How do you know? What is wrong with my interpretation of the mountain climbing scene?

Josiah Morales
Josiah Morales

What is wrong with my interpretation of the mountain climbing scene?
Because it has fucking nothing to do with cinematography or the kind of nuanced detail in directing and scene composition that we were talking about in Hyouka. On top of it, that was literally the one scene in Hibike that people reference when they want to talk about layered story telling whereas Hyouka was over 20 episodes of that non-stop and of better quality.

Ethan Wilson
Ethan Wilson

As a side note, you are currently engaging in actual, regular adhominem. As to why your breakdown is bad, it's because it's completely generic. You basically just said that it's good and then summarized it.

Also, since when are things like characters positions in frame and in reference to one another not a part of directing or scene composition?

Caleb Bennett
Caleb Bennett

As a side note, you are currently engaging in actual, regular adhominem
No I'm not, not at all. I swear to god if you try to say that ad hominem means "insulting someone and calling them names" I will find a way to leap through my monitor and strangle you.

As to why your breakdown is bad, it's because it's completely generic. You basically just said that it's good and then summarized it.
No it's not, not at all. None of that is generic at all. Stop using words you don't understand.

Also, since when are things like characters positions in frame and in reference to one another not a part of directing or scene composition?
Two characters positions in reference to each other while they're climbing the (metaphorical) mountain
This is better cinematography than Hyouka
Oh, I think I get it now. You can't actually pick up on anything that's not extremely obvious and basic. I can see how you'd find Hyouka boring. To answer your question, the relative positioning of two characters in one scene (and that position being one leading the other as both quite literally move uphill) in absolutely no way compares to what was going on in Hyouka.

Nathaniel Evans
Nathaniel Evans

You like the pretend lesbians, you thought the mountain climbing scene looked pretty and it made your plus sized panties wet.
This is regular ad hominem. You're implying the only reason I like the show is because I like yuri, and insulting me, and not actually tackling my points.

in absolutely no way compares to what was going on in Hyouka.
Alright, then break down a scene for me and tell me how and why that scene is so much better than the mountain top scene.

James Smith
James Smith

This is regular ad hominem
No it's not you fucking idiot. Ad hominem would be "You're wrong because you're a yurifag" not "You're an idiot for misusing these terms, you stupid yurifag." I guess we can ad another term to the list of things you don't understand.

Alright, then break down a scene for me and tell me how and why that scene is so much better than the mountain top scene.
Already referenced a one in the thread and talked about an entire arc that blew Hyouka out of the water. Since we're talking about the overt ones, this blows the mountain scene out of the water by covering more emotions with better visuals cues and doing it in a fraction of the time. It actually encapsulates his entire thought processes through the excitement right down to the crushing blow of reality and it all happens in a few seconds. Let's see if you can pick up all the viusal cues, since you're apparently well versed in discussing cinematography.

Luis Rogers
Luis Rogers

Forgot that webm was incomplete, have this as well.

Brayden Reed
Brayden Reed

They've only had 10 shows this decade being worse than four puts them in 5th spot, which is mid tier

Dominic Walker
Dominic Walker

I don't want to hear about an arc, I want to here about a scene.
But at any rate, yeah, that scene is good. And yes, I get it, the heart clock implies Oreki's expectation of a romantic confession. Good scene, I don't think the show is bad. But why is that significantly better than the mountain scene, in which character's entire outlooks are portrayed by position and character design?

Nathaniel Flores
Nathaniel Flores

Is this guy for real?

Austin Wilson
Austin Wilson

Yes, he thinks Hyouka is the best show ever made and won't hear anything else.

Austin Hernandez
Austin Hernandez

I could replace elements from this to make it in favor of Hibike and it would be equally valid and coherent.

No, you couldn't. Technical aspects aren't subjective contrary to popular belief.

Adrian Robinson
Adrian Robinson

in which character's entire outlooks are portrayed by position and character design?

Because it doesn't do that, which is why you have yurifags try and use that scene for everything.

Hudson Howard
Hudson Howard

Because it doesn't do that, which is why you have yurifags try and use that scene for everything.
But it does? How is my interpretation wrong?

Mason Collins
Mason Collins

None of those aspects are technical, every single one is thematic or only makes reference to technical aspects.

Parker Perez
Parker Perez

Because you haven't actually broken down that scene into anything, so fuck knows what your interpretation of it is.

John Taylor
John Taylor

But why is that significantly better than the mountain scene, in which character's entire outlooks are portrayed by position and character design?
Because the visual cues are more creative and varied, and they happen nonstop. You caught the pendulum, but missed the rosy pink outlook turning back into grey reality when his expectations were broken. So you've got one very straightforward scene in Hibike and I've got one very creative one in Hyouka that does just as much in less time with more flair. Now tell me what's happening in this scene, and then show me examples in Hibike of characterization done that gracefully.

No, the other guy is right. Just saying "I liked these girls" can definitely change facts.

Technical aspects aren't subjective contrary to popular belief.
But muh subjective opinions!

It's not wrong, but Kumiko doing with without an injury meaning her potential is higher is a stretch that isn't supported b the actual story.

Isaiah Sanchez
Isaiah Sanchez

Oh, talking about elements of a composition and what they mean isn't a break down?

Christian Morris
Christian Morris

Im gonna rewatch this show because of this post. Thanks user.
me being drunk probably has something to do with it.

Michael Wright
Michael Wright

You had to be retarded not to understand the characters and the villains, and no one but shitposters who watched the show specifically to complain got mad that the characters made jokes and had quirks. You sound like the kind of idiot who thinks that Hiromi only followed his sister around because he wanted to fuck her.
It never explored the full depth of the characters and how they connect to the main plot especially their characterization and interactions that are lackluster with the jokes, meaningless development and dumb interactions that equals to nothing in the story.
Oh I get, you're one of those idiots who who thinks everything needs to be like LNshit where they explain literally every detail of everyone's power and backstory. That's garbage story telling and you should feel bad.
This is the main character, he had very little development that was essential to his character and ties to the story with his connection to the supernatural especially. At least with proper pacing, you understand characters and their own ties the story as well as their development without the past being shrugged off. This was important to the plot itself as HIS OWN POWER AND LINK TO THE YOUMU AS WELL AS HIS GOALS.
Literally 0, and the threads have been explaining to you idiots what happened since it aired.
You fucking idiot, the unexplained like how Mirai came back, or Akihiro's past that could have been explored, the villains ties to the story, Miroku and Izumi having Youmu inside of them which did not make sense especially Miroku trying kill everyone with Kyoukai no Kanata. This was bullshit. No development beforehand.
Sure, if you weren't paying attention.
Oh I was paying attention alright, how did she survive? Why was she brought back with the power of memories and wishing that is complete horseshit, or the fact that her memories are gone for whatever reason just to add to the drama.
Also, I am not that user who spoke about choreography as it is dance routine.

Tyler Cook
Tyler Cook

Literally 2deep4you.

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