He was wrong, anime is better that it's ever been

Noah Powell
Noah Powell

He was wrong, anime is better that it's ever been

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Justin Campbell
Justin Campbell

I disagree. It has been so bad I don't even watch anime anymore. I just come here to shitpost.

Dylan Harris
Dylan Harris

Yup

Chase Reed
Chase Reed

Since when does one person's opinion decide the state of anime?

Dominic Price
Dominic Price

Back in my day dubs were acceptable as they actually fit the character.

Now it's not even close.

Grayson Parker
Grayson Parker

Agreed

Elijah Bell
Elijah Bell

Anime was way more innovative and experimental in the past. More shows are being made now, but studios are taking much less risks with them. Whether anime is better or worse now is a matter of perspective, what can I say however, is that it sure conforms more to the status quo than it ever did before.

Jeremiah Ross
Jeremiah Ross

anime at it's best now is not better than anime at it's best in the past

however shit anime is much better than older shit anime

and 98% of anime is shit so anime as a whole is better

Connor Anderson
Connor Anderson

Don't really watch new anime anymore.

Thomas Turner
Thomas Turner

Parker Evans
Parker Evans

This is blatantly untrue. The fact that the size of the industry and the audience have both increased means that there are plenty more boundary-pushing shows than there were before.

Ethan Bell
Ethan Bell

anime is at its best
anime is being mass produced

as in all things you can't have quality with quantity, are there good animes. I'm sure, though they all are fuckboi as could be or completely geared towards females in my opinion.

Thomas Carter
Thomas Carter

Name some then.

Aaron Smith
Aaron Smith

Quantity doesn't necessarily bring innovation or quality. Capitalism as a whole is the very proof of that.

Evan Cooper
Evan Cooper

I wish people would stop making these types of thread. It's always the same shit.

Camden Morgan
Camden Morgan

Well, the 90s had Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu.
And '10s have Shinsekai Yori, so I guess it's kind of true.

What about 00s, though? Anime may have dipped in quality there. Ergo Proxy? kek. Not quite up to those two.

Samuel Hernandez
Samuel Hernandez

Quality itself is subjective of course but it seems like it's certainly worse off as a business. If there's anything wrong with modern anime it's probably a lack of funding or support for more ambitious projects.

I think there are lots of great shows but I'm struggling to come up with anything that really "pushes boundaries" that I've seen in the last five or so years.

Nicholas Jenkins
Nicholas Jenkins

Implying the only amazing show the 90's had was LOGH
Implying the 00's doesn't have plenty of amazing shows
10's only had SSY
Watch more anime

Robert Phillips
Robert Phillips

Why even post?

Colton Rodriguez
Colton Rodriguez

Implying the only amazing show the 90's had was
10's only had SSY
It's called an example, fucktard.

But, no. 00s didn't have a lot of good stuff. Worst decade.

Ian Russell
Ian Russell

Watch more anime

Ayden Gomez
Ayden Gomez

Well, what's your definition of a show that "pushes boundaries"? Something that invents a new genre is going to be hard to come up with considering there are shows for all tastes coming out regularly now.

But it does. Think of all the independent TV shows, movies, books, music, etc. that have been created thanks to the internet widening audiences to massive sizes. Yes, there is plenty of generic pandering shit, but it also becomes much easier for creativity and original ideas to flourish in the background.

David Robinson
David Robinson

Anime is very bad right now filled with parody anime, light novel adaptions, low quality harems. There isn't even any quality seinen, no quality mystery or horror, no quality drama. It's bad.

Eli Hernandez
Eli Hernandez

What about mayoiga?

Cameron Lopez
Cameron Lopez

Pushing boundaries meaning breaking new ground, doing something new, unique or particularly original. I'm not saying there aren't any works like this nowadays, but to say that there are more now than the 80s? Please.

Aaron Foster
Aaron Foster

You sound so full of shit, I bet your favorite show is Texhnolyze.

Robert Davis
Robert Davis

But, no. 00s didn't have a lot of good stuff. Worst decade.
What's Kaiji
What's Tatami Galaxy
What's Kaiba
What's Lain
What's Haibane Renmei
What's FMA
What's Boogiepop Phantom
What's Millenium Actress
What's Redline
What's Rainbow
What's Death note
What's Code Geass
What's Tokyo Godfathers
What's Mushishi
What's Kino no Tabi
What's Spirited Away
What's Vampire Hunter D
What's Ghost in the Shell SAC
What's Gurren Lagann
What a retard

Zachary Watson
Zachary Watson

Some of those from 90s user

Adam Murphy
Adam Murphy

Commercial success doesn't equate to quality, nor does it add to artistic merit. In fact, the rising popularity of anime and related media is in fact driving it down as a whole.

Jacob Turner
Jacob Turner

Lurk more

Kill yourself

Ian Flores
Ian Flores

Yeah, only lain. I forgot it was from 98

Ryder Sanchez
Ryder Sanchez

Trying way too hard to fit in.

Brandon Johnson
Brandon Johnson

Don't you fucking respond to me

Mason Price
Mason Price

Doing something original? Plenty of shows have original elements. It's true that there are more comedies, SOLs, and romance stories than before, but that's just a result of the climate of anime changing.

Ethan Lewis
Ethan Lewis

Anime will never die, user. Just enjoy it or turn 360 degrees and walk away.

Jace Watson
Jace Watson

Literal shitposter agrees with Miyazaki

Cant say I am surprised.

Joshua Stewart
Joshua Stewart

Better start sleeping with one eye open motherfucker

Camden Johnson
Camden Johnson

What's Kaiji
7/10

What's Lain
90s

What's Haibane Renmei
8/10

What's FMA
Fine adaptation of a mediocre manga.

What's Boogiepop Phantom
January 2000

What's Millenium Actress
Pretty great, but not best of the best material.

What's Redline
Substanceless eyecandy.

What's Death note
Interesting premise wasted on teenagers first mindgame before shitting the bed in the second half.

What's Code Geass
An entertaining trainwreck.

What's Tokyo Godfathers
Mediocre story with some good cinematography.

What's Mushishi
A show that had a better second season in '10s.

What's Kino no Tabi
Poor man's Mushihi.

What's Spirited Away
Miyazaki's worst til Ponyo.

What's Vampire Hunter D
Just good.

What's Ghost in the Shell SAC
Even the second movie was better.

What's Gurren Lagann
Babbys first entry level anime.

John Scott
John Scott

hoo boy lets get into a fight on the internet!
You need to be 18 or bay-boy

Adrian Cooper
Adrian Cooper

00s
dipped in quality
Gaogaigar was a direct middle finger to Evangelion
which was quickly retorted with Gurren Lagann

Are you a crossboarder or something?

Carter Brooks
Carter Brooks

Too bad Evangelion is better than both of those.

Justin Taylor
Justin Taylor

It seems to me like the only anime you appreciate are ones that go out of their way to try and be "deep". You know, ones that muddle around with philosophy and sometimes religious themes that they don't understand. That's all well and good, but discounting all other genres of anime as inherently bad is just stupid.

Eli Lopez
Eli Lopez

>>141297046
rip

Tyler Young
Tyler Young

Really? Well if this isn't bait, and you want an honest answer, I barely follow seasonal anime anymore and I am pretty open minded about what is subjectively "good" or "bad." There are a lot more shows that feel like they are "proudly" ripping off of established genres, and cheap knock-off clones that feel stale as hell. So many plot points feel reused and studios will not allocate a large budget towards the show unless its either a sequel or can sell some source material. Every anime with a good budget is essentially an infomercial for source material now. Very few studios are willing to take risks for an original high-budget work with no source material. You will get maybe two of those a year. You can say it was always like that but it has gotten much worse recently, and the reason is the Otaku crowd is perfectly fine with this trend so the industry will milk it until someone complains. I used to watch about 10 shows a season. Now I watch maybe 2, because those are the only series available that actually have original content that feels fresh. Its probably also due to me reading a lot of the light novel, manga, and visual novel sources first that make the experience less enjoyable, but I wish there was more original fresh stuff with a decent budget.

Nolan Perry
Nolan Perry

It's okay, nobody was going to read through your post and find the error in the first place

Anthony James
Anthony James

Fun anime are fun, but best anime need to do something more than be just entertaining. It's not fair calling LoGH philosophic. It's more of a great character story and a very detailed space opera. I'd maybe give you Mushishi, but I liked second season more than the first. But then again, you'd call it "philosophical", wouldn't you?

Camden Long
Camden Long

He is right, but only as long as you only seek same things as he does in art. He is right about experience being the source of the imagination and impact. I would really, really like it if there was more stuff like Akage no Anne in TV animation, the stuff born out of observing real people and things.

However, this is not the only source possible source of imagination and impact. It is possible to construct believable characters and interesting settings out of yourself, your past and things you've read and watched. TTGL is 100% secondary, but a masterpiece nonetheless. Code Geass may not be believable, but it is definitely interesting. K-ON might be idealized, but the idealization only helps to convey the author's idea.

Ryan Campbell
Ryan Campbell

7/9
Shit taste.

Substanceless eyecandy.
Had a feeling I was talking with a pretentious elitist, now I am sure of it.

All those other contrarian opinions
Do you even enjoy anime?

Also, why did you ignored Kaiba and Tatami Galaxy?Can't bring yourself to shitpost Yuasa sensei?

Jason Taylor
Jason Taylor

For me it is simple. Are there more gross looking 2D-CGI integrated shows? Yes there are.
The industry definitely needs to leave that behind.

Ethan Rogers
Ethan Rogers

why did you ignored Kaiba and Tatami Galaxy
Didn't watch those.

Had a feeling I was talking with a pretentious elitist
Pointing out great animation isn't enough ain't pretentious. We're measuring the best a decade can offer, not just good.

Shit taste
Akagi > Kaiji

Ethan Brooks
Ethan Brooks

Could you elaborate so that this actually feels less like a shit post? I personally feel that much like same face syndrome, the market is over saturated with forgettable mediocre shows every season. You're probably one of those guys who thinks diversity is always better or that an increase in quantity means quality will go up too. There are actually very few studios with the budget to make those stay true to that mindset.

Jaxson Lee
Jaxson Lee

Convenient how you haven't watched what are considered some of the best anime of all time that happen to fall within the decade.

Logan Gonzalez
Logan Gonzalez

Didn't watch those.
You should, they are almost on the same level as Shinsekai Yori in my opinion.

Akagi > Kaiji
Strongly disagree. I found Akagi to be boring and vapid compared to Kaiji.

Adam Fisher
Adam Fisher

Spirited Away
Miyazaki's worst
so /contrarian/

Jaxon Scott
Jaxon Scott

he hasn't watched 2 out of 20 shows I listed
How shocking

You should
I probably will

John Collins
John Collins

Thats fine with me really. Judging from the other posts, this whole thread is pointless anyway.

Anthony Moore
Anthony Moore

I agree that's not even close to being his best, but calling it the worst is a little bit extreme.

Hunter Turner
Hunter Turner

this whole thread is pointless anyway.
Welcome to ''anime is/isn't dead'' threads.

Michael Williams
Michael Williams

I disagree, for me originality in animation always meant taking advantage of the medium in ways that couldn't be done before. Don't care much for writing.

Jonathan Brooks
Jonathan Brooks

So what's your take? Is dead yet?

Ethan Sanchez
Ethan Sanchez

:(

Luis Gomez
Luis Gomez

Don't really have an opinion regarding his views but I still love his work though. More so than most seasonal shows from 2012 onwards, mind you.

Jacob Nguyen
Jacob Nguyen

nostalgia threads/fags are the worst

Landon Turner
Landon Turner

Ignore them then.

Angel Evans
Angel Evans

It will only be dead when anime as we know stop being produced. As it stands now, my opinion is that the medium used to burn more cash in risk projects, but that has much more to do with Japan's economy than with the anime industry itself.

Also, there's still lots of good shows coming out. You just have to know where to look at.

Anthony Barnes
Anthony Barnes

Anime of course will never literally be "dead" but I religiously look at Anichart every season and try out about 10 shows, and most seem like the same shit all over again. There are like, already 20 battle harem shows similar to Hundred. It's getting ridiculous. There seems to be a much more low risk medium reward culture than high risk, high reward. Habanero and Kiznaiver are the only ones that stuck with me so far this season.

Brody Turner
Brody Turner

There are only two battle harems airing this season. Work on your bait.

Joseph Mitchell
Joseph Mitchell

Depends on what good shows are to you? I have no idea what defines a good show to you.

Nathan Flores
Nathan Flores

How can a man who's only created family friendly movies judge the whole industry.

I'd listen to Urobutcher over this clown.

Alexander Walker
Alexander Walker

the only anime that are good are deep mature anime for deep and mature people like myself

Jonathan Howard
Jonathan Howard

Whisper of the Heart and Kiki are better than anything Urobutcher ever did.

Carter Harris
Carter Harris

Substanceless eyecandy
substance is the deciding factor for quality
nevermind choreography, cinematography, attention to detail, atmosphere
nevermind how fun Redline was

Kill yourself mah man.

What is the point of this thread if not a thinly veiled chance to shitfling over who has the best taste?

This thread is pointless because there will always be opportunities for decent shows to come out thanks to scarcity value, and as a consumer, you decide what shows air by watching them and paying for products. But then again, it's the Japanese consumers who decide anime and there's nothing you can do to change their taste. Besides, there are possibly millions of people who like Eva and don't understand it. I'm sure studios can get creative and meet both demand and quality.

And yes, the past decade has more than decent shows to offer. Mononoke, Tatami Galaxy, Haibane Renmei were made in the last decade. Followed by acceptable shows like Mushishi, Planetes, RuroKen, etc. It's like you think there isn't a market for decent work.

inb4 Mononoke/Tatami/etc wasn't even that good

If you sincerely think that way, there's nothing I can do except explain that phenomenologically speaking, both subject and object cannot be removed from each other. That there is a definite reality but your understanding of it is limited to your experience and conceptualization. Dialogue offers itself as a solution in vain within places like these. But it's still there.

Jaxon Reyes
Jaxon Reyes

Two is a lot to me considering how formulaic they are and how they come out every other season. The state of the threads doesn't help either.

Jayden Jenkins
Jayden Jenkins

everything and the dog is fucking cgi
the high end market is dead and has been for nearly 15 years
better than it's ever been
The good news is though oh pee, it's only going to get worse from here.

Hudson Thomas
Hudson Thomas

Good shit.

Jaxson Ortiz
Jaxson Ortiz

That's the thing, user. Taste is entirely subjective so something that appeals for me may not be appealing for you and vice versa.

Kevin Thompson
Kevin Thompson

thanks ofr the rec :^)

Justin Roberts
Justin Roberts

Mononoke
desu senpai, Valley of the Wind is so much better. Mononoke aired on tv last year and even my fucking parents thought so.

Nathan Brown
Nathan Brown

Tatami Galaxy, RuroKen, and Mushishi sound like shows Miyazaki would like though? People here act like he hates everything when he has mainly just been critical of shows that pander to the Otaku crowd.

James Myers
James Myers

THIS

/thread

Dominic Russell
Dominic Russell

Fair enough, though it still blows my mind how anyone could like a show such as say Freezing.. How some fans have taste like that.....nope. I just can't comprehend it.

Luis Russell
Luis Russell

They just take what he said out of context. Also, Miyazaki is bitter and criticizes pretty much everything, people shouldn't take what he says that seriously.

Angel Martin
Angel Martin

he didn't call out Kaiba for cutting off its own balls and bleeding out into the toilet and calling an "ending"
It was so fucking close to being perfect.

Juan Foster
Juan Foster

babbys first entry level anime

That isn't even a valid criticism toward the show you dense fuck

being a pretentious faggot who acts like this doesn't impress people or make you cool, it makes you hated even more and it makes you look stupid

Cameron Rogers
Cameron Rogers

Pic related is how it worked for me. Well, more or less at least. I still can't stand battle harems and some other types of shows

Julian Robinson
Julian Robinson

I am pretty sure Miyazaki actually likes a lot of 00s anime and people hijack his words to create dumb threads like these. He's critical of a lot of modern shows but it's mostly because of the pandering, the infomercials, and servicing the fetishism of the Otaku crowd. I honestly would probably act the same way if I was in my 70's. Who knows, maybe when you're in your 70's user, you may think the same way.

James White
James White

eagerly showing everyone how retarded you are

If Mononoke Hime is the only one you know, then you should just die.

Colton Ross
Colton Ross

I don't think your standards have dropped. You just have fun with mediocre anime.

Luke Foster
Luke Foster

Lol. That is pretty accurate for me. I am probably at part 3 now, though this feels more like something I would see on Reddit than here.

Alexander Rodriguez
Alexander Rodriguez

If Mononoke Hime is the only one you know
What did he mean by this?

Brayden Gonzalez
Brayden Gonzalez

GGG was magnitudes better than Gurren Lagann and Eva, and anyone with any history, knowledge, or background of the genre would agree. Only Gainax anime which comes close is Gunbuster.

Jace Young
Jace Young

Can't really argue with WOTH, That film is a fucking god send.

Kevin Scott
Kevin Scott

It means you're in a thread you're not qualified to be in. Like a bunch of other enlightened manchildren.

Jayden Peterson
Jayden Peterson

Implying Princess Mononoke is a 2000s TV anime
Gee I dunno boss, maybe you can tell me which Monogatari is better than Ore Monogatari?

Hudson Morris
Hudson Morris

user who brought up Mononoke was talking about Miyazaki films, not 00.

Parker Reed
Parker Reed

Gunbuster is garbage. Most overrated Gainax show alongside FLCL

Jayden Hughes
Jayden Hughes

Pretty sure that user was referring to a time when the movie aired on TV.

Christopher Baker
Christopher Baker

Don't you like Kiki?

Samuel Rogers
Samuel Rogers

mayoiga is no different than higurashi

Owen Morris
Owen Morris

maybe you can tell me which Monogatari is better than Ore Monogatari?

Kaguya-hime no monogatari

Evan Hughes
Evan Hughes

Kiki and Tales from the Earthsea are the only ones I haven't watched.

Maybe when its the holidays again and they show all the Ghibli movies on TV, I'll catch it.

Isaiah Russell
Isaiah Russell

I think that things were a lot better in the beginning of 10's, don't know what went wrong but things have been looking ugly ever since 2013.

Parker Ramirez
Parker Ramirez

There's always have been garbage anime, i don't know why the people is now with this snob attitude about "anime as great in the past, now everything sucks", actually still ok

Leo Evans
Leo Evans

It's a regurgitation of the 14 year old youtube commenters on old music saying things like "I was born in the wrong generation" or "Today's music sucks." Somehow, saying things were better before makes people feel good when it really just means they never had the capacity to look for the decent content of their time.

It's some sort of glorified ignorance/laziness.

Ethan Parker
Ethan Parker

I think that you will probably enjoy it alot considering that you seem to like Whisper of the heart more than meme movies like Spirited away and Mononoke.

Jayden Miller
Jayden Miller

Only idiots like today's anime.

John Sullivan
John Sullivan

Whenever I realize I'm enjoying shit I always quit watching altogether.

Isaiah Sanchez
Isaiah Sanchez

It is ok now in the different way than it was ten or twenty years ago. The good stuff that comes out has different strengths and is weak in some departments in which it wasn't back then.

Discussing it here is simply a way to vent the sadness over this fact. If anyone here would be in the industry it would actually be useful.

Ryder Price
Ryder Price

sffx
would be
*was

Josiah Moore
Josiah Moore

He's just a grumpy old man now. Everything will suck in his books.

Brayden Davis
Brayden Davis

Yes hi me too

Noah Mitchell
Noah Mitchell

Sailor Moon Crsytal
Dragon Ball Super
good

The one with the magical girl with the bikini costume was OK though.

John Kelly
John Kelly

Nostalgia and ignorance.
because now they have the internet and access to information, they know whats airing and judge from preview pics and whatever bs. theyre people who grew up watching american channels that aired a few shows cherry picked for their audience, so theyre under the impression thats all japan had at the time and that they're anime experts who only watch shows from "back when anime was good", even though there was dozens of anime series every year and obviously, tons of shit, but theyre not gonna look that up. basically, for them new anime is either moeshit or things thats that didnt air in th 90s so it's shit anyways.

Nicholas Perry
Nicholas Perry

The worst part is when they want to look cool or intelligent shitting on everything and some people follow them

Cameron Evans
Cameron Evans

No it fucking hasn't. The current creators are just otaku with no life experience. They just spit out the same formulaic crap over and over.

Jason Morris
Jason Morris

you win the shittiest most redditcore taste of the day award user, congrats

Juan Brooks
Juan Brooks

Your favourite one
Ayyyyyyyy

Jaxson Jackson
Jaxson Jackson

reee gtfo normie

Aiden Gonzalez
Aiden Gonzalez

It was a mistake to begin with

Leo Myers
Leo Myers

I watch some every now and then. Mostly old stuff I never got around to. Sometimes I slap F5 on this board when I am bored.

Christian Long
Christian Long

hates Otaku
besties with Anno

Chase Hughes
Chase Hughes

I just come here to shitpost.
I don't even watch anime

how the fuck do you even shitpost if you are not even updated about the current series?

Michael Clark
Michael Clark

What is samurai champloo aka the best anime of all time ?

Dominic Butler
Dominic Butler

Not that hard when you have already watched your first battle harem a decade ago. Most shows are exactly the same, exactly the same.

Noah Foster
Noah Foster

Anime is better now on a visual level but is as emotionally sterile as ever. Characters are all interchangeable like gears in a machine. Nobody learns or grows from their experiences.It's all about moving from one action scene to another.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52raDbtNpa4

Dylan Baker
Dylan Baker

It never fails. On every board, be it /tv/ or /v/ or /mu/ someone can post a list and some autist will actually give their opinion on each and every single item.

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