Etotama's 3D was pretty good

Carson Cox
Carson Cox

Etotama's 3D was pretty good.

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQYVsf82K5c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i-sUSQoRjs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5inMkRulBW8
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27523035
Hunter Thompson
Hunter Thompson

It was ok.

8 years from now is when 3D will truly be great

Carter Morris
Carter Morris

No

Thomas Barnes
Thomas Barnes

3D will truly be great
Kill yourself

Jordan Lee
Jordan Lee

Another show I like to be added to the s2 never pile.

Ethan Torres
Ethan Torres

Yes, this and Show by Rock had good CGI. I guess, it kinda works if they are chibis.

Tyler Sanchez
Tyler Sanchez

It had better FPS than most 3D in anime out there

Samuel Gomez
Samuel Gomez

good CGI
Die

Easton Williams
Easton Williams

yeah, this show was a lot of fun to watch on Sup Forums dess dess

Kevin Moore
Kevin Moore

Etotama is like the benchmark for 3D for television anime, I hope more studios adopts their workflow.

Etotama was capable of doing full body CG, but it was probably too expensive for the budget they had.

Jordan Fisher
Jordan Fisher

It was heavily stylized chibi, which made it a lot easier for them.

Camden Morgan
Camden Morgan

What was her gimmick again?

Gavin Price
Gavin Price

Favorite Etoshin?
Mine's Rabbit.

Alexander Rodriguez
Alexander Rodriguez

3D
good
Is this the unpopular opinions thread

Nicholas Moore
Nicholas Moore

Nyaa-tan.

I can't help but love her for some inexplicable reason.

Jonathan Kelly
Jonathan Kelly

This isn't the thread for you.

Adrian Robinson
Adrian Robinson

yeah, the best CG so far

Joseph Morgan
Joseph Morgan

Seeing that nips hated this because off their inherent shit taste we won't be seeing 3D like this anytime soon.

Brayden Brooks
Brayden Brooks

I miss Etotama. I think it aired together with Punch Line, which was another favorite of mine from that season. Good times.

Nolan Russell
Nolan Russell

genki
ganbarimasu
ultimate best friend

Juan Rivera
Juan Rivera

so good you can't even be arsed to make good webms

Parker Martinez
Parker Martinez

You miss watching it with Sup Forums.

that week of sheer horror and despair

Joshua Jackson
Joshua Jackson

Tiger because my zodiac is tiger.

Gavin Richardson
Gavin Richardson

If you're talking about the show, then yeah we won't be seeing more etotama.

But other studios can adopt the workflow for 3D from the studio that created Etotama for other shows.

Doing so can cut the costs for 3D if workflow for 3D is seamless. Etotama seemed to have done a good job integrating 2D and 3D into the same show even if the 3D and 2D parts never really interacted with each other.

Anthony Harris
Anthony Harris

She makes my heart go doki doki.

Oliver Gutierrez
Oliver Gutierrez

Post some precure.

Austin Campbell
Austin Campbell

Agreed. Made me upset whenever someone would say that the 3D looked bad while it was airing when it looks fantastic, especially for a seasonal anime. I didn't like Show by Rock's as much even though it was objectively better. It works because of what said, the stylization makes it.

Add on to those parts always being really fun to watch as well as the animations for the CG also being stylized really well and those scenes became basically the best parts of the anime. The kart race was one of my favorite episodes. The non-3D parts were good too though.

Oliver Cox
Oliver Cox

Rabbit? More like RabBest.

Benjamin Mitchell
Benjamin Mitchell

If there was gonna be a show that would be fully 3D and look good at the same time, I'd say it'd be Precure.

Toei just needs to jump on the 3D bandwagon already for television anime. They clearly have a 3D staff good enough judging by their Harlock movie and Precure.

Levi Lee
Levi Lee

Didn't everyone hate the Harlock movie?

Andrew James
Andrew James

I still don't get what people hate on 3DCG.

Ian Flores
Ian Flores

I hate CGI just as much as you, buddy. But, honestly, Show by Rock and Etotama do look ok, it's a rare exception.

Camden Roberts
Camden Roberts

The 3D was great, it doesn't matter if the movie was mediocre.

Joshua Barnes
Joshua Barnes

I do, cause it's mostly terribly done. Shit like Etotama, Bubuki, and others are exceptions..

Kayden Baker
Kayden Baker

That animation is terrible.

Dominic Cox
Dominic Cox

That can only be explained by shit taste then.

Isaac Sullivan
Isaac Sullivan

It isn't very smooth. Expelled from Paradise looked good, but only when everything was still.

Leo Perez
Leo Perez

It's good enough if the story, acting, music (and PLOT) ,etc. is good enough to make you forget that you're watching CG. Pic related for me.

Sebastian Jones
Sebastian Jones

shit taste
for animation

That's very stilted animation, friend.

Jackson Baker
Jackson Baker

Because i like hand drawn aesthetic. If i want 3d i rather play a videogame

Leo Powell
Leo Powell

(and)

Landon Carter
Landon Carter

Fuck you.

Joseph Morgan
Joseph Morgan

Even if the 3D itself looks decent, the choreography is so shit that I'd rather not watch it.

Luis Ross
Luis Ross

It's a good combination of them only using it during moments where it's not jarring (although they have to do it by hopping through a gate, which counters what I just said, but whatever) and they do it well.

It's smooth, it looks good, it's stylish, and it's not clashing with the 2D animation because it's literally in an entirely different world. It also doesn't feel like they're just using it to get out of animating those scenes traditionally, since they both look good and feel good to watch, at least for me.

Daniel Morris
Daniel Morris

Cock all day every day.

Nathaniel Smith
Nathaniel Smith

You obviously can't tell quality even if it hit you into face.

Bentley Taylor
Bentley Taylor

I miss Etotama.

Thomas Perry
Thomas Perry

It's shit.

Austin Martin
Austin Martin

S2 when

Henry Edwards
Henry Edwards

3D is just too big of a jump for anime studios in Japan.

You know what you need for good 3D for television anime?

Studios need to hire good modellers just to make pretty much fucking everything. You need people to make assets like cars and shit and other people to make matte paintings for far away shit.

You also need to have people that can rig 3D characters really good so it'd be easier for the animators to animate with.

Not only that, but you'd need 3D animators that actually knows what the hell they're doing. And a 3D animator can only be as good as they can be depending on how well the 3D rig they're using is. If the character rig is bad then the animation can be stilted or just awful because of limitations in the character rig itself.

The most important thing of all though is making the 3D look nice. And you can't just pull that shit off without dedicating an entire staff on just compositing the 3D renders with effects and shading to make it look nice. I'm talking a full department on compositing.

It's a lot of money, and unless you're toei or Bones, studios can't risk taking such a financial decision like that unless they're positive that they can pull it off and make it successful.

Carter Stewart
Carter Stewart

It looks like a MMD clip. Shit looks bad, if you are going to defend CGI at least pick a better webm.

Ian Stewart
Ian Stewart

Alright, it's nice to know.

Just listen to you, next time you watch an anime.

I'm watching this because of the choreography

Reaffirm to your postmodern mentality, I'm spending time of my life because of the fucking choreography.

Aaron Edwards
Aaron Edwards

I didn't say it looked bad, just a little choppy

Samuel Hill
Samuel Hill

barely any animation happened in that webm, what are you trying to accomplish?

Ryder Price
Ryder Price

it's the kind of animation a college grad for 3D would be able to pull off.

honestly not that great.

Liam Taylor
Liam Taylor

It's too bad that the character designs are awful, though.

Asher Gutierrez
Asher Gutierrez

It's a lot of money, and unless you're toei or Bones, studios can't risk taking such a financial decision like that unless they're positive that they can pull it off and make it successful.

dunno but Shirogumi successfully created such nice 3D on etotama, is Shirogumi as big as Toei or Bones?

Logan Gray
Logan Gray

I'm pretty positive their main thing is effects and shit for live action shows. So 3D was no mystery to them. And they have a good department for compositing as well since that's where most of the effects get poured into for live action.

James Kelly
James Kelly

it's shit, it just looks alright when nothing is happening
OH YEAH? How about 'this' webm where nothing happens?

Brayden Myers
Brayden Myers

another user said that, all I said is that the animation you provided as examples are bad.

I never said anything about how it looked visually. You need to get whatever's stuck up your ass out and stop being so anal about it.

Chase Perry
Chase Perry

I miss this show and I miss my Tiger

Angel Rogers
Angel Rogers

I'm not that user. I'm actually making fun of him. Expelled from Paradise was rather meh the entire time for me, especially animation wise.

Joseph Harris
Joseph Harris

well i doubt that making a 3D anime would cost more money than creating hand drawn anime, i'm not an animator, but i work with CAD, i found it far more simple, faster and easy to draw stuffs using CAD especially 3D design

by using this experience of mine, i could say that "maybe' 3D is way "cheaper" (faster simpler easier) than hand drawn anime

but once again, i'm not an animator, and i didn't know how anime studio works though

Julian Brooks
Julian Brooks

Post more 3D.

Josiah Jones
Josiah Jones

only three people watched this show
two of them were just me rewatching the episode for the week.

it still hurts

Sebastian Martinez
Sebastian Martinez

thelegomovie.gif

Jackson Morgan
Jackson Morgan

What are you on about we had a lot of people watching the show while it aired. There's just not a lot to say beyond it was funny or pretty when Etos weren't dying.

Jace Brown
Jace Brown

Fuck off, there are examples of good CG, but Expelled from Paradise is not one of them.

William Lee
William Lee

getting the software is expensive as fuck, you'd also need the money to get good computers to run renders and simulations.

Also the money that would be burned simply to adjust the 2D workflow that's already been established and making it work alongside 3D. Right now some studios are just making a small as shit 3D department just for small shit like toast or a bike. Making a whole department be as big as a 2D department would require adjustments in scheduling and thus affect budgeting and money.

You'd also need to hire people that actually know what they're doing. Most studios only know how to do 2D work, so you'd need to hire people with 3D knowledge to get that shit done.

So while 3D itself is not necessarily "expensive", as you said, it's faster to a regard in comparison to 2D animation, it's just the money required to reach that kind of cheapness is a whole fucking lot.

Andrew Flores
Andrew Flores

footfag bait
best anything

Samuel Roberts
Samuel Roberts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQYVsf82K5c

Carson Brown
Carson Brown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i-sUSQoRjs

Noah Nguyen
Noah Nguyen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5inMkRulBW8

Kevin Perry
Kevin Perry

It has been a year and this is still going on.

Cooper Campbell
Cooper Campbell

Someone post more Nyaa-tan please.

Bentley Cox
Bentley Cox

because chibi shit does not require too much work.

Brayden Gray
Brayden Gray

pretty good.
It was a fucking masterpiece(and this come from someone that hate cgi irrationaly) people will talk about in 2'0 years like a classic.

Charles Ross
Charles Ross

Reminds me of MapleStory

Jason Myers
Jason Myers

20 years*

Camden Wright
Camden Wright

nice try, mr. CGI faggot

Sebastian Lee
Sebastian Lee

like a classic

the show is honestly "okay". If people in the future said it was a classic they'd be singing too many praises for a show that was just "okay" and overrating it.

the 3D though is great for a tv anime. It will definitely be written in history as a stepping stone for 3D in anime.

Jaxon Torres
Jaxon Torres

the 3D though is great for a tv anime. It will definitely be written in history as a stepping stone for 3D in anime.
That's what i'm exactly talking about, the whole 3D part was magnificent, and I also loved the whole series, if it had any mistake it was only being 1 cour, so many characters, so little time, at least there's the manga.

Chase Phillips
Chase Phillips

I look for this EVERY Eto thread, Thank you friends.

Owen Perry
Owen Perry

I think the one mistake that Shaa-tan fans will remember is that they got fucked over by her character episode literally being a recap episode. I'm not even a Shaa-tan person, though I can appreciate her qualities, and I'm upset for them.

Dick move on the staff with that one, even if they had to save money or something. I think the reason was stated in the episode.

Owen Evans
Owen Evans

Bump
I'm sleepy and drunk, don't know what to talk about but it's always nice to see an Etotam thread.

Xavier Sanders
Xavier Sanders

More than often it looks terrible due to terrible animation and/or shading. But I really like when it's done decently enough.

Adrian James
Adrian James

You guys help keep Etotama alive in my heart

Leo Lopez
Leo Lopez

This looks like a MMD animation.

Hudson Thomas
Hudson Thomas

I don't know what this is but it looks like fucking trash.

Anthony Robinson
Anthony Robinson

Like your face

Xavier Carter
Xavier Carter

There's nothing wrong with 3d, it's when they paste 3d in a 2d anime and try to pretend it isn't there.

Jace Harris
Jace Harris

Stop looking at the mirror.

Samuel Lee
Samuel Lee

I feel the heat of that burn from here.

Easton Hill
Easton Hill

Rig animation is fucking awfull. It's not natural and always look awkward. You will never achieve hand drawn level of animation with CGI. That's why CGI is abomination and shouldn't exist.

Xavier Rivera
Xavier Rivera

Reminder that is the year of the best girl.

Ryder Diaz
Ryder Diaz

Why are 3DCG in anime looks like they've been rendered at a frame rate lower than 30?

Jacob Wilson
Jacob Wilson

Hello time traveler.

Camden Parker
Camden Parker

The framerate bugs the shit out of me.

Landon Clark
Landon Clark

maybe your GPU isn't strong enough

Luke Morris
Luke Morris

I fucking hate 3D CGI in 2D shows, but the stuff in this was good and still cute.

Dropped that furshit rock concert one like a stone when I saw it in there.

Christopher Lee
Christopher Lee

Best episode.
tfw no more wacky races on my animu
Step up studios.

Elijah Baker
Elijah Baker

wacky races
Osomatsu-san had one last season.

Connor Cook
Connor Cook

This doesn't look like anime. It looks like CG. That's the problem.

Jaxon Smith
Jaxon Smith

tfw there will never be good CG mecha

No, Orange is just as shitty as the rest.

Zachary Rivera
Zachary Rivera

Maybe it's time to adjust your perception as to what anime should look like. CGI is here to stay, might as well get used to it.

Robert Martin
Robert Martin

To be honest I don't want CG mechas even if they're good. I'm fine with everything else but not mechas.

Hunter Stewart
Hunter Stewart

Still on my backlog, for some reason I haven't start it yet.

Carter Clark
Carter Clark

I kinda want to see porn done like this.

Adrian Green
Adrian Green

Oh, Shaa-tan fans won't like what the manga did to her as well.

Josiah Harris
Josiah Harris

Good night sweet thread.

Samuel Garcia
Samuel Garcia

In chibi mode?

Ignore the picture, just posting it because.

Elijah Taylor
Elijah Taylor

I still don't get what people hate on 3DCG.
some few exception, most 3DS is fan made shit or used to cut budget corners, and looks bad, (see bersek movies)

Jace Diaz
Jace Diaz

Of course.

On a completely unrelated note, how difficult would it be to create animations/models like the ones in the show?

Benjamin Torres
Benjamin Torres

You will never achieve hand drawn level of animation with CGI
if the world were full of people like you we would still on hte stone age

Luke Garcia
Luke Garcia

tfw we were given a S2 in Fall 2015 and we didn't even notice

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27523035

Fine, it's a completely unrelated 5-min show, but it's a cute-as-fuck Cat-tries-to-get-into-the-zodiac anime, with Rat voiced by KUGIMIYA FUCKING RIE.

Also Cat gets into the zodiac in the end.

Parker Nelson
Parker Nelson

Threadly reminder that Inu-tan kawaii.

Evan Cooper
Evan Cooper

boring swimsuit when she was canonically wearing shimapan bikini in the anime

Luke Howard
Luke Howard

I remember I dropped Show by Rock that season for the CG but loved the fuck out of Etotama.

Fite me.

Julian Bell
Julian Bell

Can't decide between Mei-tan, shima-tan, and Uri-tan. Shar-tan and Piyo-tan were pretty good too. Still kinda pissed that Shar-tan's episode was a recap.

A real fucking shame that season 2 never.

Nolan Gonzalez
Nolan Gonzalez

I skipped all the CG scenes in Show by Rock. They were so ugly and repugnant.

Chase Watson
Chase Watson

Every time someone posts Uri-tan, it makes me want to commit a crime.

So please don't post any Uri-tan.

Thomas Russell
Thomas Russell

BRS had best CGI

James Campbell
James Campbell

Sorry, user. It's for the greater good.

Nathaniel Collins
Nathaniel Collins

Just passing through to remind you that cock worst eto

Xavier Anderson
Xavier Anderson

KING CRIMSON

Xavier Ward
Xavier Ward

I think I love Nyaa-tan.

Ayden Kelly
Ayden Kelly

This.

Jack Nguyen
Jack Nguyen

Pretty sure the excessive yuri-bait contributed to that

Christian Gutierrez
Christian Gutierrez

Not to mention all the attention it got from the fujos with Miyano

Andrew Russell
Andrew Russell

Because most of it is.

Christian Cooper
Christian Cooper

Why are Etoshins so sexual?

Blake Foster
Blake Foster

[dubious - discuss]

Benjamin Reyes
Benjamin Reyes

she's blue
Blue bird of happiness

I understand now

Jace Roberts
Jace Roberts

It was great. A shame there's no Dog and Monkey focus episode, their fight would've been pretty fun to watch.

Landon Collins
Landon Collins

I remember some user posted the nendo Etotamas they bought, it was adorable as fuck.

Christopher Jones
Christopher Jones

I'm always surprised to see this show get brought up.

It was really mediocre, and the only thing memorable was the CG.

Especially the ending, I can't see anyone actually liking this show outside of character design.

Landon Cruz
Landon Cruz

Black Rock Shooter also had decent CGI (the models at least).

Elijah Rivera
Elijah Rivera

Template.

James Foster
James Foster

chibi forms
easy modo to get out of the valley

Nicholas Stewart
Nicholas Stewart

I haven't changed out either of their parts yet, I should really get on that one of these days.

Jayden Carter
Jayden Carter

Why are 2D perverted girls so great?

Asher Richardson
Asher Richardson

Did you know that even Uri-tan is not loli height?
This was so confusing to me given the character designs, and then seeing that for example Cat or Monkey are exactly at the average japanese adult women's height.

Luke Cook
Luke Cook

Not reaally
The difference all came down to the fujo pandering, and SBR being already a staple title for women.

Wyatt Evans
Wyatt Evans

Back from work.
Posting more Angela.

Ayden Wood
Ayden Wood

Are you trying to make me vomit?

Christopher Hall
Christopher Hall

Wrong thread?

Henry King
Henry King

Angela is always related.
ALWAYS.

Ethan Ward
Ethan Ward

Scroll up, he was defending that movie's CG.

Brody Baker
Brody Baker

This looks incredibly stilted.

Jaxon Roberts
Jaxon Roberts

X years from now is when 3D will truly be great
Been hearing this shit since the Final Fantasy movie and the first 3D Appleseeds

One day you'll just have to admit 3D is garbage.

Bentley Evans
Bentley Evans

It really was. I wasn't even into the series that much but I archived it anyway because it felt like a big step for technology that I'd look back and appreciate someday.

Eli Barnes
Eli Barnes

I don't think it's so wrong if clumsy CG can be saved by a good story, acting, direction, and music. I honestly didn't care most of the time that Arpeggio was CG; and let's be pragmatic, an action-heavy series like this might very well not have been approved with a traditional animation budget.

Jackson Ward
Jackson Ward

2cute4me

Asher Jenkins
Asher Jenkins

I do too, Nyaa-tan was a great cat girl, a truly cat-like cat girl.

Julian Kelly
Julian Kelly

If you are going to post Arpeggio, then at least post best ship.

Luis Foster
Luis Foster

3DCG haters mostly are retards, kids and dunning kruger effect victims. Hating CGI is very popular. People even hate WOW CGI and Weta works now

Connor Ward
Connor Ward

HEY!

Michael Allen
Michael Allen

sleeping with socks on
has anime gone too far?

Evan Hernandez
Evan Hernandez

Iona was cute.
But Kongou is still most elegant ship of my heart.

Ryder James
Ryder James

Sure thing tumblrshitter. No need to try and fit in so hard though.

Isaiah Kelly
Isaiah Kelly

Because all of WoW movie actors are babyfaced 18 year olds.

It's extremely jarring to see a well-made armor and a fucking teenager in it playing a character that's supposed to be 30~.

Joseph Brooks
Joseph Brooks

most elegant
Sure.
I guess it boils down to my preference for cuteness rather than elegance.
Still great shipfu you have there.

Jason Johnson
Jason Johnson

Fuck retards like Kongou.

Jaxon Sanchez
Jaxon Sanchez

The anime faithfully adapted Ark Performance's leg fetish.

Parker Smith
Parker Smith

As an animator that works on games let me tell you that 90% of CG shows are fucking atrocious. Not only are they skimping on actual animation, but they're keeping the shitty frame rate of most anime.

Also Hollywood can't animate for shit because they just throw up a mess of jumbled scenes and throw excessive blur all over it on top of not understanding how animation works and Warcraft looks like an unfinished mess where everyone standing in front of a green screen is as obvious as blue screen was in old films.

Samuel Barnes
Samuel Barnes

blue bird! blue bird! blue bird!

Jason Foster
Jason Foster

Pseudo time "stop".

Cooper King
Cooper King

Yeah. She was just very fast. And she still lost. What an useless little bunny. Only good for her sex appeal.

Jace Rivera
Jace Rivera

I-is that weird? I wear socks all the time, just feels wrong and cold otherwise.

Nolan Morris
Nolan Morris

you should see her boots

Camden Jackson
Camden Jackson

In most anime, when a character suddenly goes from 2D to 3D it's extremely jarring. They just made it a transformation sequence. It's brilliant.

Jacob Phillips
Jacob Phillips

creepy as shit

Aiden Mitchell
Aiden Mitchell

READING THIS IS MY DRUG

Christian Taylor
Christian Taylor

Jojo and Etotama had good 3D mainly because it was 3D that was made to somewhat look like anime.

The webms in this thread look like shit because it's 3D intended to replace anime. Scene-specific stuff made to cut costs on having to do that one storyboard in drawing, in hopes that the viewer won't notice. And it has to maintain a weird 2D look in motion, especially when the character's angle changes, by badly emulating actual animation techniques. It has a hard time looking 2D even when not in motion.

3D will never become anime, it'll always either look like that cheap uncanny valley shit or be 3D that's anime-looking.

Dominic Thomas
Dominic Thomas

tfw. Kongou bites Hiei.

Charles Ward
Charles Ward

3D will never become anime, it'll always either look like that cheap uncanny valley shit or be 3D that's anime-looking.
Sufficiently advanced renderers are indistinguishable from traditional media.

Not saying that we're there yet.

Parker Allen
Parker Allen

Call me stupid, but don't a lot of manga use CG renders?

Michael Morales
Michael Morales

It was amusing, but everyone was acting a bit stupid or a caricature of themselves when you're used to the manga characters.

Like, sure, ashigara is an energetic goofball. But mindlessly spamming beams in all directions while flailing with an energy anchor is too far. In the equivalent battle in the manga she still coordinates with nachi and has tactical awareness.

Caleb Sanders
Caleb Sanders

Chibi characters work well in 3D but characters that are supposed to look human come off as kinda creepy looking in 3D imo

John Collins
John Collins

So anyone got a link for the bluray dance special? I remember seeing a preview for it after the show ended

Michael Powell
Michael Powell

Hyuuga a shit.

Colton Thomas
Colton Thomas

Yes, it was great.

Christopher Clark
Christopher Clark

Badly done 3D made to look like badly done anime.

Jonathan Gray
Jonathan Gray

there are several levels, pretty much the same as in anime

1. do everything the traditional way
2. use some very rough interior modelling software as reference to get perspective right, but draw everything by hand
2. draw most things by hand, use CG (+ some post processing in a 2D tool) for some mechanical objects/props/building or whatever
4. CG for almost everything with minimal retouching or the occasional closeup in 2D

But with the dot-matrix print, no animation and black/white it's much harder to tell apart, especially the intermediate levels of retouching or drawing over models.

Christopher Bailey
Christopher Bailey

bluray dance special
It's on the BDrip, obviously.

Robert Harris
Robert Harris

I'm not sure why people still bother arguing with the anti-CG crowd, it's not like you'll ever convince them.

Luke Flores
Luke Flores

Why not? If everyone agreed things would be boring.

Isaiah Hernandez
Isaiah Hernandez

That doesn't look very "anime" though, not a good example in my opinion. More like an ingame cutscene in a video game.

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