Future Trunks is back
Next villain is Goku Black
Future Trunks is back
Next villain is Goku Black
New arc description translated by Herms
Remember when Dodoria was yellow on the back of Kanzenban volume 18?
oh shit so it was real
Is Black Goku anything like Black Battler?
Because that'd be neato.
Don't tell me it's going to be Bardock.
So Turles confirmed cannon?
Time Breaker Bardock
Well japs love him so maybe.
Gohan is never ever coming back.
I wonder if they'd be able to get away with making Black Goku say all the weird shit B.Battler does.
using a sword again
What 2ch reaction about this ? are their laught at it ?
If he's like B.Battler it's gonna be sweet as fuck.
If he's not it's gonna be shit.
I love FT but personally I was hoping for some development of our own current Trunks so we can segway into our own badass adult Trunks.
This is fine though
poor future trunks, not only will he know what a little shit he became in the main timeline, but also his idol and master gohan is a fucking nerd
future trunks sucks
Dragon Ball BLACKED
Hand literally closing around neck
Does he have huge hands or is her neck small
Toriyama said he couldn't give God white hair because of the next villain
yfw BLACK Goku has WHITE hair
who is ready for the future trunks and actual gohan traning together episode?
sun is more important than godlike powers
holy shit spics, get it together
Comparing someone as smart as Battler to Goku
You already know the answer to that one user, your hopes were crushed faster than Goku using IT.
WHITE GOKU VS GOKU BLACK CONFIRMED
I just want to know how he developed Super Cyan despite being the only (half) saiyan in the entire universe
Unless he's future Trunks from this Trunks, not the one from Cell Saga
Why is his hair blue?
not a bad idea.
the SSBXKKx10 colors were pretty dope hopefully we see a more white hair.
No canon colors
GOD is stronger than Blue, though.
Oh boy that's a loaded one
Next villain is Goku Black
He warned us
We didn't listen
Now we pay the price
He either forgot or everybody gettin' SSBlue
Any evidence you had has been retconned
Bullshit. There are color manga pages of him with purple hair.
This isn't JoJo's.
Animators and/or Toriyama thought it looked better.
I always imagined him yellow tho.
He's a SSB
Vegeta did it too
He's firmly grasping it and making her neck smaller by force.
A man can hope.
Fake or fucking Dragon Ball AF became canon
Wasn't the whole "multi-verse tournament" thing already done by fans before? And it was more interesting than the official version of what we have now?
Course I only read the first few chatpers so...
Why his mom's hair blue?
To those wondering why Trunks's hair is blue, don't get too excited.
The Toriyama image for Battle of Gods has kid Trunks with blue hair too.
Trunks's manga hair color is officially blue.
I guess they'll give FT the purple hair back in the anime.
N O C A N O N C O L O R S
Any pics of the official gotenks hair color? Its blue and black?
It's literally Goku from the GT universe
How hard would your dick be?
speaking of dbs. Do you think we are going to see beerus fight in the universe tournament?
What, you thought not-goku or not-vegeta would become a main character?
FUCK YOU, HAIR COLOR CHANGE
It'll be funny if that's the case, continuing to shit on the fanbase while they blankly stare upwards with their mouths open saying "PLEASE SIR, CAN I HAVE SOME MORE?"
Tecnically in the manga trunks has the same hair color of his mother maybe they are fixing that in the anime or toriyama forgot who knows
everyone will be there and it will be the final ever dragon ball arc
ＮＯ ＣＡＮＯＮ ＣＯＬＯＲＳ ＹＯＵ ＨＯＭＯＳ
Imagine the DB game rosters with Black Goku added to them.
There's gonna be more Gokus than everyone else combined.
Pretty much. Super anime sticks with anime colors, like pink on Piccolo's arms instead of yellow.
Just like mugen
I wonder what his reaction to 18 being around will be
He was talking about Golden Frieza
I like how Trunks stole 17's scarf.
Black Goku is going to be Evil Bardock.
Oolong's bodyguards look badass
Trunks has always had purple hair
How many Gokus there even is in games nowadays? Budokai Tenkaichi 3 already had buttload.
Is this watercolor or markers?
no canon colors bro
BT3 had like 14 counting transformations.
It makes sense that this isn't Super Cyan because his hair isn't spiked upwards
There are canon colors, read the fucking manga.
Kid Trunks' hair is purple in Super currently, what the fuck are we arguing about.
Maybe it's an alternate universe Trunks? or maybe Toriyama had wished Trunks and Bulma had blue hair since the beginning?
Only if it means she makes an appearance as well.
If a game goes with ALL of DB counting GT, it'd be a bare minimum of 4 Gokus (DB, DBZ, GT and Super). But they can easily make several forms separate characters like Xenoverse did with both God forms and GT Goku's kid and SS4 forms.
If Black Goku has several forms like Goku does, it's gonna be a fucking mess.
How come no one complained when Bulma got a different hair color?
She will be in Super, just give it
Only if Towa gets to be in the ARC
Also, Turles is basically already evil Goku, so he can absolutely count as the 5th Goku.
They probably did 30 years ago
Was KibitoKaioshin originally supposed to be unfused at the time of the movie too
My headcanon is that she recruits team Crono somewhere down the line, and isn't confined to just the DBZ universe
The irony. Bulma went from purple to blue in the anime, which eventually became manga colors. Now, Trunks has gone from purple to blue.
im so hyped
If you hover over him on the website he has a second outfit
Bulma had blue hair for the first 3 pages she was on, beyond that she always had purple hair.
wasn't Bulma's hair green?
Trunk's hair is the same color as his mother's. Bulma's hair is purple so Trunk's hair is purple.
Considering Bulma's hair is blue, Trunks' hair is blue.
Still using the dumb bowl cut
No long hair
...would Trunks/Lucca be OTP material, or would he be too weirded out because she reminds him of his mom?
Fuck no, why, WHY, I mean, Mirai Trunks is my favourite character and he actually got to SSJ 2 when he went back to the future, now he is going to come back and become the new Gohan and job everywhere.
and he actually got to SSJ 2 when he went back to the future
also he was a jobber in the cell saga
she always had purple hair.
no her hair changed like fucking seasons bro.
I am the only one who thinks Trunks is the most complex, coherent, logical, well-adjustedand and most developed character in the story of DB?
Yes as long as you can get over the fact that Bulma made a time machine.
Yes because Vegeta holds that title, especially when he accepts that he isn't as good as Goku and never will be.
Read the manga
and he actually got to SSJ 2 when he went back to the future
Source? I remember he achieved a SSJ 1.5-like transformation, but not the real SSJ2.
I always thought Toriyama tried to give Bulma's hair the color purple, not green or blue. In most of his official artwork, it's purple. But the anime gave her green hair.
it would interfere with him being able to see, but I do think he needs a new hairstyle, maybe even let out a beard grow out
No no, Gohan is the new Yamcha. Was really important but kept losing and ended up giving up.
Pan is the new Gohan. Kid with so much potential that she can surpass both her dad and grandpa.
Future Trunks is still Future Trunks. Shows up and is super cool and strong, spends half the arc jobbing to villains.
Trunks isn't complex, really. He doesn't have much of an arc. Vegeta and Piccolo, hell, even Mr. Satan, are probably the characters with the most depth
But yeah, he's definitely the most well-adjusted and logical one, because he lived in version of the dragon ball world where there were actual consequences. He didn't have the luxury of playing around with his opponents and trying to become stronger for its own sake, he lived in a world where every day was a fight for survival
In chapter 1, for like 4 pages, it's teal. For the entire rest of the manga it's purple.
no one can surpass mr satan, silly
I did read the manga but back in my day my Volume prints didn't have colored pages of Bulma much. this is like 1997 for me.
bulma's manga hair is purple
her dad and son had purple hair in both manga and show
the dub even makes a joke about her dying her hair to help explain it.
Related to black goku, I bet it's something like "Future Trunks, having learned about the dragon balls ability to be restored by dende, traveled to namek to have him restore his timelines, so he could revive everyone.
Goku had gotten waay stronger, having been training in the afterlife for 20 years
Beerus arrives, and does better than Vegeta did against him.
No Buu means Beerus never gets pissed off, and decides to have whis train Goku.
Goku is now the God of Destruction, and is "black goku" which is like an inverse of SSGod.
Or some bullshit like that.
Future Trunks SSJ2
He doesn't ever get that in the manga. Although in the PS2 Budokai games he had SSJ2 (before someone says mistranslation it was also in the JP version) and he has SSJ3 in Heroes.
I'm curios to see his reaction to Vegeta. As last time they interacted, Vegeta was still a massive cunt. He's changed a lot since then.
Vegeta is a battle freak with a shitty temperament and dumb as fuck. He could be more powerful than Goku but he is still too impatient and he just attacks his opponents, instead of analizing the situation like everybody else does.
Nah, I'd say Piccolo probably is.
Considering he starts as a "clone" destined to kill Goku, but grows to enjoy being his rival more than anything, and then learns to care for others by training Gohan, and gradually becoming more and more kind as he fuses with Kami and Nail.
I mean, ignoring the scifi parts of his origin, he's basically just a solid "child soldier learns how to live a real life" story.
According to Online Pan does indeed surpass Mr. Satan, with him giving ownership of his dojo over to her. People start learning martial arts through Pan.
We're all gonna make it.
Also Piccolo is best dad
implying Trunks ever had a scene like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDSfn59ollU
Most likely a trophy for when Trunks destroyed the #17 and #18 of his time.
What the hell can she teach them? Magic tricks? How can people learn to fight with a magician at the helm? What was the Champ thinking, leaving his dojo to her?
Vegeta reach that level, Trunks went even beyond, but Trunks couldn't control so much power and become all stiff, not even speculation, they say so in the series, you could say that he was 1 level away of SSJ 2 if not already there.
Hercule starts up a video program for teaching martial arts, but people start complaining and demanding their money back after it turns out the stuff he's teaching doesn't work. An angry mob gathers around his dojo. Pan shows up and kicks every single one of them off her grandpa's property, impressing the angry mob. The Champ declares her his successor, and Pan starts up a new video program with the help of Bulma to teach people martial arts.
why is his hair blue now? I thought it was ssj blue but it's not spiked and shit
I don't think there was anything left of him
its just the way he wanted it colored
im sure his hair will be the same as kid trunks in the show
...no canon colors...
I just want to say blue color is better than purple color.
the original manga was black and white, you dip. Bulma's hair was ALWAYS purple on the cover pages. They just changed it to the bluish hue in the anime for whatever reason, but Trunks' hair stayed purple.
Blue is a primary color alongside Red and Yellow Frog chan.
He doesn't ever get that in the manga.
we don't exactly know WHAT form he was using against the androids and Cell, since prior to that, we never saw him use the advanced SS forms with short hair.
It's just logical to assume that he was full powered SS, rather than SS2 because A) no sparks, and B) everyone else's hair sticks up a lot more as SS2, and his hair is basically the same amount of lift as his original SS transformation, just more defined locks of hair.
However, we know he is 3-5 years older than when he was in the Cell games, so he logically should be at least SS2.
But, then again, Toriyama wants to phase out SS2, so maybe he'll just be a max powered SS1
I bet you think Sasuke is a complex well written character too.
Faggot. FT fans are the worst.
The original manga has color pages you moron. Stop making shit up and spend 15 seconds on google.
this dick has color pages
Toriyama was never that consistent with Bulma's hair, so I wouldn't expect it for Trunks. A lot of colors seem to be whatever he feels like.
He looks like a fag now.
lmao sup homo?
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you ok Gay?
Shut up when you have no idea what you're talking about. Outside of chapter 1, there is not one single full color panel that has Bulma's hair as anything other than purple. There are limited palette pages where it's colored red or gray or something, but on the full color pages her hair color is totally consistent.
BROS I'M SO PUMPED. Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Future Trunks and Piccolo all at it again. Least I'm figuring. They did say before Super that they wanted to get some of the old feel back, and with Gohan training and Piccolo being in the tournament, I feel like this is what they're setting up for. A Cell-Saga feel (best Saga). Doesn't necessarily mean I think Gohan or Trunks will be the heroes, but I think those five will all be relevant again.
1. Gohan (Saiyan-Cell)
2. Future Trunks
But yes, Trunks is the most logical. Even Gohan is susceptible to stupid decisions when he's angry.
I forgot the English name desu
The final answer is that there are literally no canon colors in DB. The anime and colored scans are irrelevant to this fact and always will.
That color user above needs to settle his autism down.
Not that user but Kinto'uun sounds cooler. So does Nyoibo or Kikoho or Kienzan. There's not really a reason to call them this but it sounds cool so I do.
18 being around
He won't give a shit, he knows the androids of that timeline weren't as bloodthirsty as the ones he fought.
This board is infested with secondaries
Shut the fuck up, blue is canon.
Nope. Nothing is.
They should have make up sex.
Make it happen you Doujinshi writers.
The manga is canon. The colors in the manga are the canon colors.
There are no colors in the manga autist-kun
anon says a fact
better call him a autist
not him but there's cover and promotional opening color pages for the very first few pages of the Weekly Shonen Manga comic book.
claiming black and white manga has "colors"
dont they give meds for this?
ITT: Hair XD
guys he is wearing the same green sweater in his time patrol outfit
and they're inconsistent, your point?
nice job linking proof of inconsistent color palettes homo
I prefer purple hair Bulma the most.
There's a difference between inconsistency and flat out not existing.
The other guy is clearly a troll, but you're wrong too. The manga has color pages.
The manga has color pages.
I know this.
PLEASE BE REAL
Inconsistency proves there is no defined color
There is absolutely no point to forcing your preferred palette just because it serves your autistic impulses lmao.
Reminder that Japan as a whole considers many shades Green and Blue including those closer to Purple are all named simply Blue.
Toriyama is lazy and forgetful. Figure out the rest.
Shouldn't Trunks be a lot older looking?
Inconsistency proves there is no defined color
doesn't change the fact they exist.
Anyways you're getting me mixed up with whoever you were arguing with.
Remember in the Cell arc when he was friendly with her and 16 after Cell absorbed 16? Yeah, he's a smart guy and knows that his androids are different from the MT androids.
he returns and bulma makes him a new outfit which he continues to use when he leaves
saiyans have this weird thing where they age well while maintaining their youth
He looks younger than Gohan even though he's what, 6 years older?
how do you know how old he is?
For some reason no one can remember that Trunks killed Cell 3 years after he killed the Androids.
Gohan is 22/23 during Super and Trunks was 22 when he killed Cell so they're about the same age.
tfw Japanese can't distinguish between different layers of blue just like that african Himba tribe
That would explain everything.
I'm ready for Black Battler becoming a Dragon Ball character.
There are plenty of manga drawings by Toriyama giving Trunks purple hair.
Are we going to make excuses EVERYTIME Super messes something up? For fuck's sake!
he is 3-5 years older than when he was in the Cell games, so he logically should be at least SS2
What logic are you using? Because Vegeta probably trained a hell of a lot more in the 7 years he had between the Cell games and Buu, and he still couldn't go SS2 on his own, even though his base form was stronger than Gohan's.
Do you guys think that kid trunks is going to grow up to be a sissy like gohan? Always working and not training.
At least future trunks and gohan were badass
mystic gohanfags are so asshurt about Super forgetting muh canon they're resorting to bitching about hair color
The hair color was never consistent in the manga. Bulma had purple hair, then a shade of 'blue' and sometimes 'green'. It bounces back and forth. You people are fucking pathetic.
...but that's wrong, though?
He was certainly a sissy in GT and he didn't have the rough life like Future Trunks.
But hey with Gohan, give it time. Remember, he's back to training and with them bring Future Trunks back, I have a strong belief that they want to throw it back to the Cell Saga and have a Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Future Trunks, and Piccolo main group, but we'll see.
WHAT'CHU SAYING IS
*gropes at 40 oz bottle of male liquor*
WE WUZ SUPER SAYIN
Oh come on! They had Goku, Vegeta, Mr. Buu and Piccolo and some other guy show up for a tournament with a bunch of new characters and proceeded to do shit all with Piccolo and Mr. Buu!
Buu wasn't even ALLLOWED to fight, and Piccolo had a quick fight with notFreeza where Goku outright told him that his fight was just to make Vegeta's easier, and then bows out when Vegeta demands he does. Remember when Piccolo was always taking orders from Vegeta? What fun.
Give up now.
I thought that universe 6 and 7 were the most similar. Black Goku is just kinda gay tbphfam
he could be coming from any point in the future, it's time travel
it could be right after he beat the androids and black goku shows up
WE WUZ MONKYZ AND SHIET
at the end of dbz we saw gohan was still focusing on being a scholar, but we arent sure how much time he puts in to training as well.
Gonna have to crop that out if you want to fool anyone into thinking that happened before Majin took him there.
they fucked up before so this isn't a fuck up
Fucking Super apologists.
He was focusing on being a scholar, but if you remember, he was still rocked up. Fighting doesn't have to be his primary goal for him to be able to be effective.
I think there's a reason they held back with the other characters, but it could just be wishful thinking.
not him but that pic looks like it's from the very end of the Kid Buu saga's finale where Vegeta is dead and at the Kaioshin's Realm.
Buu woke up and Trunks couldn't actually do a fucking thing because he isn't even SS2 and he has no fucking blackup.
Does it bother you that Akira would prefer to go back to his gag roots than to try to phone in powerlevel bullshit? Pic relaed, it's you.
they just dont have the love for fighting anymore. when the tournament was brought up, vegeta told trunks he was gonna join or he would cut trunks allowance and goten is more interested in his date than the tournament.
The hair color was never consistent in the manga. Bulma had purple hair, then a shade of 'blue' and sometimes 'green'. It bounces back and forth.
Why do you post things that aren't true? This isn't hard to look up, it's a very old manga.
Not that user but he still needed Babidi's majiin power boost to access SSJ2 for the first time. Even if he can do it now it's still the babidi boost that allowed him to achieve it. Not hard work.
Wait, I know you're talking about Epilogue of Z, but what does Goten and Trunks have to do with anything?
How would Buu have waken up?] Where could Babidi possibly have gotten enough Ki to wake up Buu?Why would he even come to earth if like...half the population had been decimated.
No, he didn't. It's never stated he needed that. Fuck's sake I bet you're one of the retards that think Gotenks has never gone Super Saiyan 2.
And even then, the official hair colors were 'green', then purple and then 'blue'. Does it bother you this much that Akira went with blue hair? Does it fucking matter? Still butthurt over muh mystic gohan?
because everythings been so calm, they became major sissies, whereas future trunks has it hard by himself
he mentions when goku fights yakon that he seems to have surpassed super saiyan as well and how he looks to have at least gotten stronger than gohan was during the cell fight
Obviously. He was saying that Vegeta going SS2 at the end of the arc somehow proves that a few years of training to get to SS2 despite the fact that Vegeta couldn't do it at the beginning of the arc and only got it after Majin boost.
no fucking blackup
Haven't you been paying attention. There is going to be a black Goku.
Vegeta specifically states that he couldn't match Goku after seeing his energy get sucked in that dark room.
I'm hoping he'll have some awkward interactions with 18 and Krillin.
Maybe it's not stated but it's sure as hell implied.
I don't know that that means. Are we talking WE WUZ SAIYANS N SHEET or what? How literal is the statement?
Oh I know... But what does that have to do with what I was saying about Gohan in the epilogue and/or other characters getting more involved? Lol.
Show me one page of Bulma with blue hair in the manga that isn't from the first chapter.
he states it after he gets possessed at the Tenkaichi Budokai.
I want to see Trunks' reaction to nerdy adult Gohan as opposed to his manly one armed adult Gohan
I don't have to, it's more fun seeing you get angry over blue haired Trunks and crying muh mistakes and muh apologists. I'll ask you again: Does it matter if Bulma and Trunks have blue hair? Does it matter if Akira changes it for the fuck of it? Just answer my question.
I don't care about anime shit, I'm just letting everyone know that there are in fact canon colors.
The blackest of Gokus. Even has the white hair.
couldn't do it
he didn't need to, he didn't even go regular super saiyan
I'm ready too
See, you can't even answer a simple question. You gohanfags are cancer.
So, when is little kawaii Brah going to appear? Is Bulma already preggers with her?
I thinking you're getting your memes crossed
Man I always liked the piggyship.
mfw Trunk's return is just as shitty as Frieza's
That better happen, even if it's at the very end. I'll denounce Super if he opts to retcon Bra.
Why is Piccolo yellow?
It's pretty obvious that white will be the next transformation, and it will be introduced by black Goku. He's the villain with white hair.
just noticed almost everyone's fucking dead
I am guessing this was from the end of the Buu saga?
Sometimes Toriyama goes a little overboard with lighting effects
So they've officially run out of ideas.
Dragon Ball has always run out of ideas and made up new, terrible ones.
Remember when Goku and Piccolo turned out to be aliens?
Assuming Black Goku is the same concept as Black Battler, what colour will his clothes be?
not wanting an Interstellar storyline
step up your game senpai.
Both powercreep and villain variety has been done to death in the franchise. It's been nothing but a cash-in for a long time now and it's going to continue being that.
No really, Piccolo's not a demon at all! He's actually just an alien!
And so is Goku
And maybe Tien too
And they go to space, Toriyama gives Goku a lame recolor super form.
Then they get back to Earth, and retcon in Dr, Gero and have cyborg punks stronger than Frieza.
Frieza returns and creates another Frieza saga
Trunks returns and creates another Cell saga with Black Goku as Cell
Who will be Buu?
There are many things Dragon Ball Super has done that I disagreed with or found questionable that I should have been mad at, but I ended up accepting it because Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z have always been near and dear to me.
But this just might be it. I've put up with a lot of Toriyama's stupid/lazy ideas for Super, but I have to call him out on Black Goku.
It's so crushing to have to drop this after being such a long time fan.
Have you played Xenoverse?
Well black goku is just a corrupted version of him
or a cyborg
Buu will finally get fed up with being written out of every story arc and will turn evil.
If you had any expectation of a Dragon Ball anime being good then you're not a real Dragon Ball fan.
most of dragon ball Bulma has purple colored hair
suddenly make hair aqua
Cyborg arc Trunks comes in with purple hair
Why was Bulma's hair color changes?
Buu creates Majin Booby.
She will start out as pure evil and create the loli Buus from Heroes as her underlings.
Baka american gaijins
yeah seriously, I wanna see her appear soon. She is super adorable kawaii desu Joy.
What logic are you using?
1) Trunks was the only fighter in the future, 2)got killed right before returning to the future (so zenkai might be in play)
3) Trunks was stronger than Vegeta at that point, he just wasn't as good of a fighter (note the mistakes he makes against Cell)
4) Hybrids do it easier
5) Vegeta always overtrains for poorer results. That's his trope.
6)see the last line of that post.
created by Bobidi for sexual purposes
Just have the arc end with Trunks getting his Time Patrol coat to tease things.
And then Buu makes Taino to help fight them.
He never states that he can do that "as well". And he says that gohan is weaker than he was in the cell fight through lack of training. Not that Vegeta himself is stronger than that.
I never said good, and you missed the point. Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z while not necessarily the best (or good by whatever definition you use) always had a certain charm to it. Super on the other hand just feels like a lazy cash grab. One could certainly argue/points to the original or Z where they showed signs too, but even when toriyama introduced a new form or villain they had a charm and uniqueness to them.
Super is just reused, rehashed, and recolored ideas. It has lost the charm, that made his previous works enjoyable and fun despite not being the best or "good".
Super has really shit the bed.
They better not do this shit where he's still salty with 18 for the whole the future versions of her and 17 killing everyone schtick.
I really loved early android 17 and 18. How they were mostly stoic, emotionless with maybe a slight smile as she crushed your ribs and broke your arm.
The problem is that Super is a shitty anime, but unlike the previous shitty anime it's not based on an actually good manga.
Daily reminder that Super is not canon
Piccolo says that Majin Vegeta MIGHT BE stronger than Gohan vs Cell
muh mystic gohan
Me too, they were the first "psssh, nothing personnel" enemies they had to fight.
I think he's actually 23 when he kills Cell.
Depending on how long after cell this is, we could be looking at a Trunks that's still older than Gohan.
he'll show up as a gag character in the Omniverse tournament.
I can't believe you guys are still watching this piece of shit
I honestly stopped watching the anime around episode 8, but I still read the manga which is good (compared to the anime) albeit incomplete in the story to keep pace with the show.
I read about what happens and watch webms of the show, but it is just visually unpleasant to watch.
Super (relatively speaking) hasn't had that bad of a story and has been enjoyable. The main problem is that there hasn't been a good way to enjoy it. For example:
You could watch the anime, but deal with terrible animation
You could watch the movies and get good animation, but not get all the story as it has changed and moved on
You could read the manga, which has decent art and isn't actually that bad, but a mentioned earlier you don't get the full story as it is rushed to keep up with the anime.
... I feel like I've gotten off subject. Sorry, It's like 4am here.
Anyhow, I guess what I'm trying to say through my multiple post is that Super showed signs of promise, as it has been a semi-enjoyable ride so far, but Black Goku being a literal color invert of manga Goku, shows that the ideas from Super haven't come from Toriyama as a fun story idea (the charm I guess) and finally made it clear (to me at least) that Super is a cash-grab.
Sorry for the long post.
Yeah, but that's Majiin Vegeta. That's different. That's him after a massive powerup. And even then he's only to just BARELY outmatch Goku.
He was pretty much a fucking joke in his second movie already, so it's not too far-fetched.
he wants the short jacket guy from the future back to the past's future because pink shirt badman just jobs everytime everywhere
What the fuck is with this one asshole in the thread telling everyone he doesn't like that they're a Gohanfag?
I can't believe it's not butter.
Come to think of it, how come Beerus didn't destroy the Earth in Future Trunks' timeline?
Black Goku being a literal color invert of manga Goku
We know literally nothing other than this character that looks like Goku kicked Future Trunks' ass and is being called "Goku Black" (for now).
It could be Time Breaker Bardock or fuck, some kind of Time Breaker Goku. It could be Xicor or Soulja Boy for all we know. It could be Goku in a top hat and handlebar mustache. Calm your tits and don't believe in /a/'s lies.
Isn't Chiatzou ridiculously strong if he can even slow Goku down for a few seconds?
Why would he go to Earth?
That's the most Chiatzu and Goku have interacted in the entirety of Dragonball.
Because of the prophecy? And because Goku defeated Freeza which had piked Beerus' interest.
It could be Goku in a top hat and handlebar mustache.
The beards were foreshadowing. It all makes sense now.
It's piqued. And Whis would simply tell Beerus that Goku was dead
Goku was dead
why would beerus go to a planet just because an alien that beat another alien happened to live on that planet when he died?
So he'd go to King Kai's. Because Goku is dead. That is literally the point of Trunks' future.
Yeah I'm jumping the gun a little and combining another interview (again running on no sleep), but Toriyama has shown his favor of recolors with Super...
As with everything, I won't outright dismiss it without giving it a try, but I'd be lying if I said I'm going in with any hope.
I appreciate the laugh user
I hope Future Trunks and Android 18 interact, she hasn't really done much
Why was the best episode of super a filler episode
...so, Krillin. Really.
And you... had a kid.
That we did.
And your brother is doing what, exactly?
I know, right?
1996 + 20
Black Goku is finally real
I haven't watched Super since Vegeta defeated steam robot. Has anything interesting happened since?
It would be fun if Android 17 came back too. As long as it isn't like the Super 17 arc of GT that is.
I'm ok with this
We don't speak of that. It's worse than anything in Super.
dude with same sword as Trunks
I always wondered where Trunks got it, but maybe swords are common as fuck in the future? They don't make as much noise as a gun, so even when you hunt animals or fight people, it is less likely that the androids will hear and come fuck your shit up.
Good question, swords are fucking useless given the power levels involved.
Maybe he thinks it looks cool?
It would actually be neat to see 18 and Trunks spar.
Trunks is much much stronger than her.
The Androids in the main timeline are much stronger than the ones Trunks faced in his, plus Toriyama did mention they can get stronger.
Even if Trunks won, it would just be fun to see 18 fight a little, even if it's just fanservice.
Sparring is different from proper fighting.
She's a woman, that means that Toriyama and Toei don't care
Will this Trunks get the same VA as Trunks in GT?
Well in the remake of Battle of Gods on Super, she did join Piccolo and Tienshinhan in trying to fight against Beerus.
And when Frieza was resurrected, she even offered to go fight in Krillin's place since her power level is still one of the strongest (Only Piccolo and Buu pass her out of all the non-saiyans)
18 is weaker than imperfect Cell and Trunks is stronger than semi-perfect Cell. They're not even close in strength.
Plus 18 isn't even really a fighter anyway. I doubt she'd spar with anyone unless she could get money out of it.
Will we finally get a new OP?
Probably. Toei is pretty lazy when it comes to changing OPs. Just look at One Piece.
Minor roles tho. She needs a bigger impact in this new arc.
I wanna see that MILF pussy in heat again.
nice quints family
Quints confirm, next time a threat comes and Krillin asks his more powerful wife to stay in the kitchen, 18 should smack him, tell HIM to stay and take care of Marron, then fly off.
Remember when Dragon Ball was good?
I wonder what happened.
They lost the Seinfeld composer
18 is weaker than imperfect Cell and Trunks is stronger than semi-perfect Cell. They're not even close in strength.
Imperfect cell is a bad comparison because by the time Cell absorbed all those humans, he was stronger than Super Namekian Piccolo, before which he only narrowly escaped Piccolo killing him. Piccolo was stronger than 17 after the fusion with Kami. After Vegeta and Goku, we know Piccolo and Buu are at least the strongest. We know of course 18 is stronger than Krillin (strongest human), Tien, and Yamcha (as if there's any doubt). The question is whether her power is on par with, above or below Fat Buu (she's at least smarter than him)
Toriyama confirmed that the Androids can get stronger if they train and that 18 is stronger than 17. 17's design was flawed and he's unable to tap into the infinite power generator as well as 18. So at least in theory, 18, if she trained could surpass Piccolo, if she's not stronger than Piccolo in terms of power level already.
Even if Trunks could still destroy her, in a sparring match that is just for practice, 18 would at least be as good of a sparring partner for him as Piccolo or Buu would.
but it will be you stupid faggot, future trunks is already a shitty character
17 is stronger than 18. It's on one of the cover pages in the manga. I don't know where you heard that 18 was stronger, your probably just made it up.
And 18 fighting Buu? What the hell are you smoking?
Here's an interesting fact: the reason 18 can train and get stronger is because a majority of her cybernetic enhancements are actually closer to biological ones, patterned on human tissues. It's also why Cell can absorb them, and because of that 17 and 18 age exceptionally slowly. 18 doesn't actually even need to eat, just stay hydrated.
Expanding on this: it's possible Marron could have inherited some of those traits. Not to the same degree as her mother, but she could potentially age slower and not require as much food to function as a normal person (fuck, aging slower might actually explain a lot).
So, they're finally doing a literal evil Goku storyline.
Never thought the show would actually do a "Evil version of good main character" arc, though I guess fans have been daydreaming about the concept for a really long time.
The question is where did "Black Goku" come from? The Goku from Trunk's time line died so it isn't like he could turn evil or anything. I guess it's possible that Black Goku is from an alternate universe where Goku went evil or something.
Also wondering what Black Goku will look like, I know people have been making the joke about 'lol nigger Goku' but I get the feeling that he'll have the same skin colour, just with a black outfit and maybe a black aura (though there's never been a character with a black aura and bad guys usually default to purple auras in the dragonball series).
I know Tumblr would lose their shit if Black Goku was literally Goku with black skin. They'd be all up in arms having a shitstorm about 'muh racism' and 'muh evil character is black when his good counterpart is white' which would be pretty funny.
It's probably going to be Time Breaker Bardock. Which means we'll probably finally get confirmation on if this too was because of Towa, the Demon Princess Deviantart fangirl.
Also there are 12 universes now
12 universes, each with multiple timelines. Trunks is an alternate future of Universe 7.
17 is stronger than 18.
And 18 fighting Buu? What the hell are you smoking?
Clearly not what you are since I didn't say anything about 18 fighting Buu. But the question is what her power level is in relation to fat Buu and Piccolo since these are the only non-Saiyan fighters who can be conceivably stronger than her.
We know she's stronger than Krillin, and thus stronger than any human on earth since Krillin is the strongest of all the humans.
12 universes, each with multiple timelines
Other way, each timeline has the 12 universes.
12 universes, each with multiple timelines
according to the Xenoverse lore, it was only in Universe 7 that an alternate timeline came into being as a result of Trunks and Bulma's actions, which is why Supreme Kai of Time got mad at Future Trunks and turned him into her fuccboi.
Turles is a more subdued version of the concept.
For one, he isn't named DARK GOKU, he isn't actually being inserted into the main series, and the movie doesn't really go on and on about how much they're alike or not outside of Gohan seeing him once and a throwaway line at the ending.
DB Super is literally building up to an EPIC fight with Bad Goku. They're worlds apart in awfulness.
Why are you leaking the new Dragonball Super OP?
black people destroying our future
just like in real life
if it aint white, it aint right
Why are you guys believing this fake crap?
The only thing I can see right now is the multiverse tournament arc maybe requiring more contestants than the previous tournament so that 18 has to join in. Other than that, it's most likely she'll remain on the sidelines and only enter a fight to job like she did with Beerus.
I've always thought about the possibility that 100 years after Krillin and everyone else dies, 18 is the only besides possibly Goku who might still be alive.
Piccolo, Roshi, Korin, Dende, and 17 will outlive most everyone.
Which is immediately contradicted by the timeline with King Piccolo, Gero, and Babidi engaged in a three-way war on Earth.
Goku is space asian
Please stop acting you are anything to the white community. You are a pig.
Saiyans are analogous to asians. As in, quite literally from their physical appearance (black hair, black eyes, etc).
Which means Goku isn't white.
OH SHIT SON WE AF now
That's the whole point, they start out as Asians then ascend to whites.
Swords are even more powerful than lasers in DB. They could cut through Frieza and Vegeta's tail while they were in active combat and had their guard up.
A sword is only as powerful as it's wielder. Trunks can swing that hung of metal at relativistic speeds, so no wonder it can do some damage.
She fights him in the movie as well.
Future Trunks will train Gohan
Bardock x Turles x DBGT as the new villain
Toriyama going full fanfic Tier with new evolutions/fusions
My dick couldn't be harder.
It's gay how the Goten and Trunks are both 16 years old now and they still look 8.
It's gay how the Goten and Trunks are both 16 years old
They're not. Trunks is only about 12-13 years old right now.
I wonder if they'll ever go back to technology based opponents. Shit like power suits, nanomachines son, and of course android tech.
Well kid Trunks at least should be taller. Most western kids these days are giants. Something to do with their diet triggering early puberty and better general nutrition.
I think it's silly for any race to try and "claim" sayains. They're not asians, caucasians, or blacks. They're SAYIANS, end of story.
END OF STORY.
DB is pretty inconsistent with this sort of thing. It usually just depends on the tone they're going for
I know. This seems to be a pattern. Arale is supposed to look 13, but she's 2 feet tall.
Knowing Japan and it's absurd level of aversion to pregnancy we probably wouldn't even see a pregnant Bulma.
Did we not see preggo Videl?
I guess they grow their kids in test tubes in DBS.
It could be Goku who have been taken over by Mira and Towa, that's would also explain their white hair thing
Is there anything more pathetic and delusional?
Can we all agree that Hit is the best Universe 6 character?
Ain't nothing wrong with Xenoverse.
He's called Black Goku
But he has white hair
Okay? What is this, Opposite Day? Does he draw power from demon ki and have a super sayian demon form?
Goku is space sparta
Certainly the strongest. By all logic, he should have instantly been defeated by SSB kaoken
We have and I quote five kids born over the course of DBZ.
Number of times we've seen the mother pregnant? 0.
If we go by strength, then Vados is the strongest. I meant character-wise. He is an edgelord, but cool one, not cringe-worthy one. He looked pretty different from all DB villains/enemies so far.
I love it when an episode is good enough that I'm not deleting it immediately after watching
So far I have saved 39, 40 and 42
chichi must have been pregnant during the cell games
Who cares about Trunks when Arale is coming to Super
he looks like palette swap of piccolo
Implying she won't just appear for 3 seconds as goku messes up his instant transmission
Videl was pregnant during the BoG arc, Pan being inside her was kind of a big deal for the ritual in case you forgot.
He is an edgelord
Not really, he was pretty much the Paikuhan of Universe 6.
It will still be the best thing to come out of Super.
Please stop trying to force this.
So how would you react if Black Goku isn't an edge lord, just a Goku who wears black but personality wise he only enjoys fighting without regular Goku 's mentality of 'killing and mass destruction is bad?
To be honest, calm cool guy who doesn't speak much can be considered pretty edgy by DB standards where everyone shout and talk during battles all the time.
So is Trunks going to look beefier in the anime and his skinny design is just Toriyama's current artstyle?
I like the design (except for the hair colour), though.
Do you really have faith in this series to be that subtle?
I just finished episode 40 and that King of All dude looks completely disappointing. After Beerus, Whis, Champa and Vados I expected something better for apparently the strongest being in multiverse. "Little funny dude is actually the God" is a trope I really don't like. Beerus and Whis were perfect mixes of quirky and majestic designs, that King dude looks like Monaka-tier comedic relief.
Guys, its time admit.
ITS HYPE AS FUCK.
i bet ssw will be as thin as beerus.
Trunks is SSB because his eyes are blue.
Thanks doc today of all days
Just stop. Toriyama drew him blue because bulma is blue. He likes to color them like their mothers.
And toriyama is good with fucking up colors.
Android 18 with blue hair in Battle of Gods character designs.
He'll most likely be just purple in the show.
We don't know really. Some designs end up beefier, some end up just as slim as in Toriyama's new designs. It's a lottery, basically.
He looked pretty different from all DB villains/enemies so far.
He was a Cell recolor.
Fat Buu, even weakened, did better against Kid Buu than SSJ2 Vegeta. #18 is likely significantly bellow him.
which is why Supreme Kai of Time got mad at Future Trunks and turned him into her fuccboi.
She wasn't really mad. She just used that to guilt trip Trunks into working for her. She reveals it if you talk to her in the later part of the game.
How much longer will Toriyama ignore GT? I know it was poorly written, but the concepts were good.
She could be involved in the upcoming arc. Apparently Trunks barely escapes from his future alive, so it's possible that the present Earth gets attack and we get another scenario where everyone is forced to fight. Now, if "Goku Black" doesn't have an army, it'll probably be just another Battle of Gods, with everyone jobbing completely and doing nothing against the new villain.
When will they show his family in Super? I want to see Maron play with her cousins and 18 tease 17.
Trunks will attempt to kill 18.
but the concepts were good.
if he wanted to he would have tried it before going back to his time
future trunks comes back
frieza's father attains golden transformation and comes to earth with his revived son cooler
they are sliced to pieces effortlessly
SSJ4, Shadow Dragons and Baby.
Super 17 design is debatable but holy fuck was everything else about it was retarded.
What if he means GT Goku?
Keep your retconned posts back to retconned era.
You never said that.
Future Trunks is back
Have fun rotting in space jail
I would not be mad.
I haven't kept up (when I finish exams I'll finish RoF saga and start the new one), so this might be a stupid question, but: do we know if they're EVENTUALLY going to do post EoZ or everything is going to be prior to this?
I'm assuming we know nothing, right? I really want to continue further, even if there are inconsistencies between the ending and this anime.
I really liked some concepts (and designs) from GT, but yeah, they're obviously going to ignore it and it'll be for the best.
10/10 will be disappointed when this isn't what actually happens
Yeah, we know nothing. They've made several references to elements from the end of Z though (like Goten and Trunks slacking from training and Uub already being born) so it'll be odd if the show never gets there.
Considering how they remade the movies though, if we get to EoZ they'd probably remake it too.
welp can't wait for all the race jokes to come poouing in.
It was only a matter of time.
HOL UP YOU TELLIN ME WE WAZ
so u be sayan that we wuz warriorz and shieeet?
That was a great opportunity to make Bulma the villain of the arc.
Weren't some anons speculating that the time-travel tech developed by Capsule Corp could lead to Bulma to researching and developing means to destroy any single threat to Earth?
When they first meet Roshi, Bulma has blue hair most of the time
more uncanon that this guys
*readjusts saggy pants*
YOU IS SAYIN
*breaks into house*
THAT WE WUZ
*mixes ice tea and skittles*
AYO HOL UP
*checks out obese white lady*
*running away from cops*
*collects welfare check*
*get shot by white cop*
trunks comes back to see that his self in this timeline is an annoying little shit
the actual person who he was friendly with has been written out of the show
Nice. I hope we get that timeskip, I want to see current timeline Trunks be a badass, but maybe they're just using Future Trunks to fill that.
If goku was virus then goku is dead to undead call black goku? Goku attacked trunk's clothes is ripped.
Toriyama wants to phase out SS2
Trunks comes to see if his his mate Gohan can save the future
only to find out what a little shit he's become
I guess this could be yet another reason for Gohan to work his ass off and, at least, be competitive.
I want a Tenkaichi 4 with Super content but I know if it exists, it will be filled up the ass with DLC and other modern gaming shit.
Think Black Goku might actually be Time Breaker Bardock, and they just think it's Goku?
trunks probaly used the super saiyan 2nd grade (ascended saiyan) like vegeta used against semi-perfect cell.
as for ssj2 and ssj3, yeah toriyama got rid of them after bog.
hell back before BOG got released he coudn't even remember how ssj3 looked like and confused it with ssj2. until a fan or student pointed it out.
then he changed ssj2 and ssj3 from actual transformations to just extra forms of super saiyan (like ascended super saiyan and ultra super saiyan) and that a strong super saiyan could then beat a ssj3 (hence why rage boost ssj vegeta managed to hurt beerus)
I doubt it's actually a Goku, in any event. This sort of cliche bait-and-switch would feel right at home in mainstream shonen.
I really doubt it. I don't think there's any evidence that Toriyama was involved with that plotline.
Toriyama came up with the plot of Online didn't he?
*eats entire truckload of food*
*screams for three episodes Straight*
*Powers up to a level beyond ever seen*
*kamehamehas white folk*
*steals power level*
SAIYAJINS N SHIEEEEET??!??!!
Goku's face makes this image
That would be krillin
You leave right now
Who's ready for Trunks cucking Krillin?
It's an old interview from around the time of BoGs, where Toriyama mentions that after the battle with Beerus Goku wouldn't use SSJ2 and SSJ3 anymore, since he learned that they're just boosted forms of SSJ, and by focusing on SSJ it ends up stronger and wasting less energy.
Although that was just about Goku, after that we haven't seen anyone in the movies or Super using either SSJ2 or SSJ3 aside from the remake of Goku vs Beerus in Super.
So, Turles 2.0?
Found a leak to black goku powering up on youtube; the quality is pretty bad though.
Looks like they take turns. 18 and krillin have respect for one another, why do people try to make krillin a cuck?
Where could Babidi possibly have gotten enough Ki to wake up Buu?
He needed to get Gohan's ki along with Goku and Vegeta in Super Saiyan 2 having an intense fight.
There was no fucking way he'd get near that power in future Trunks' timeline
In his defense ssj2 was pretty dumb, there was barely any visual change, so what was the point?
Huh. I thought he was Heroes exclusive since he's called Xeno Bardock in Heroes (and he wasn't in Xenoverse).
no, Bardock was under mindcontrol after he got rescued by Towa and Mira in DragonBall Online
You said it, friend
I don't want to that one guy but... Goku Black? Is Toriyama so senile that he can't come up with an original story or characters?
What if he means Raditz?
Come on you knows its Raditz. Dammit Toriyama just fucking die already
To be fair as far as I know Toriyama just did the backstory stuff for DBO, not the DBO plot itself.
I'm cool with Masked Bardock showing up though.
Why would it even be Raditz? If anything, even TimeBreaker Bardock is more likely.
Degenerates hate perfect love.
I was so hype when New Day came out as sayajins, almost the best moment of this years wrestlemania
Akira Toriyama is really Leiji Matsumoto but keeps forgetting he is either one.
post your favorite DragonBall song, be it from anime, videogames or something else
It's GOKU Black, not Black Goku. He won't have black skin you retard.
I like this
A Giant Purple Anorexic Cat, A Manchild wearing a bright orange gi and a perverted as fuck old ass hermit
Oh yeah man these guys are the biggest fucking bad asses in all of fiction, I am sure no one would fuck with Oolong with such awesome looking bodyguards :^)
so the U7 team for the Universal Tournament is going to be Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Trunks, and Gohan?
user you have a point
Depends on if Trunks sticks around. It sounds like this is before the tournament, not the same arc.
And Beerus, yes.
Is playing delusional a meme now?
If Trunks does stick around what are they going to use in-universe to differentiate him and kid Trunks? I doubt they'd just go with "Future Trunks" like we use.
He might have a nickname to hide the fact that he's Trunks. That or they really will go with Mirai no Trunks.
So they've officially run out of ideas.
Right comment, but you're wrong by a decade or more. They ran out of ideas in the Buu saga. The cash cow was just too big so there was no need to take it to slaughter just yet. Toriyama and his evil gaggle of corporate villains wanted to take an inch and turn it into a mile.
Then they killed it, sold its parts and what we have left is the unwanted intestines. Still part of the cash cow but.... I've got no idea where I'm going with this, but you get it. You lot are smart kids.
meh, im just watching super for what it is, not taking it too seriously. im enjoying it
i think people are taking it too seriously and they forget it's literally a show for children
meh, im just watching super for what it is, not taking it too seriously
I have been too. It's a crazy fucking world we live in when I watch DBSuper for the character interaction and side stories than for the fighting, but we are living in dangerous volatile times.
THE STARS ARE RIGHT
those hot topic chains on his pants
Does time not go forward for both timelines at the same rate?
How disappointing will U6's team be in the universal tournament? Everyone except Hit and maybe shota-saiyan already showed everything they've got, and even shota will be a pushover unless he figures out how to become a god.
my guess is that future trunks is from champa's universe, somehow his earth was destroyed, and it being restored with the super dragon balls could lead the way to trunks coming back. would explain how future trunks returned to an un-fixed future
I see one of the previous guys - hopefully robotfu - getting a serious power upgrade. Or they could just fight against other Universe people for either a really creative fight, or just the Worf Effect.
Time travel isn't linear, although both timelines experience time the same Trunks could have just travel back more/less time. So in theory he could have only aged 6 months but arrive 5+ years after he first arrived.
he probably just can jump to any time in each timeline
the question is if this creates new timelines or not
That seems unnecessarily confusing. Having the timelines be completely parallel seems so much cleaner.
Wouldn't he be at least 3 years older? It takes three years to charge the batteries
Welcome to time travel. It's always shitty and confusing
it's only confusing if you're not intelligent
it's only confusing if you're not intelligent
This is a children's show, not fucking Primer m8
Trunks is from the future so obviously not.
we get Emerald Frost
I warned you about time travels
I just hope the next one be as good as Goku vs Monaka was.
it's the Arale episode, if I remember right
tien is the strongest human
Replace Gohan with Monaka, Beerus said he will bring Monaka back.
Frost could become Gold Frost and some members could be replaced if they aren't getting new transformations. I'd guess e might get the Saiyan King replacing one of them if they don't actually travel to Sadla.
Yes, it is, but she hasn't appear in the preview, so it's possible another cameo
Pilaf and his gang kidnaps Pan
Pan was powering up
Future Trunks is coming back
That is awesome, I hope he kicks ass and takes names, he's one of the best characters.
gohan is atthe supreme kai's training.
Universe 7 Turles is weaker than slightly after DB Goku
Universe 6 Turles is the strongest being.
Yey! Trunks is cool again.
Can't wait for him to not do a whole lot once again.
He was there when Krillin confessed his love. He's not gonna be bothered by her.
you mean 17
i hope its an android based of goku
No it doesn't
The first two trips were only a year apart.
It's because he made so many trips that it took so long to charge back up between killing the androids and cell.
Remember that his first trip had only a few hours between arriving and leaving, but the second one had a few weeks too.
who would make it
The fuck is this from? Multiverse?
in some other lab nobody knows about
gero grathered so many cells of goku that he recreated him to kill the real one
the fake still had his evil personality so gero had to seal him away because he wouldn't take orders from him
why is gero such a shit inventor
he keeps making androids he can't control
Could be, could be.
But then you've got to remember that regardless of the fact that TpT is supposed to be future trunks, his design (and TPGoten's) was based on gt trunks, which this also gives nods to.
long sleeve shirt
non-denim, neutral color jacket
all that's the same, his jacket's just longer, and he wears different boots
Super Future Trunks
all that's the same, plus he has a scarf like GT, but his jacket's returned to denim, no gloves
Also, note how he has two different looks, one being very similar to his old look, and one being quite different?
Then note how despite Goku and Vegeta wearing different outfits in RoF and most of super, the last ep still had them in their "familiar" outfits?
Trunks will arrive looking like OP's pic, and then once the inevitable training arc happens, he'll look like this
he makes them too strong and lets them keep their personalities
at first he probably started to make clones of the z-fighters
he realized he coudn't control them and ditched the proyect
then he went to human modification
19 was one he could control
just had Freiza Saga 2.0
now Goku Andriod
and then a Cell from another different timeline comes and absorbs him making him Super Golden Perfect Saiyan Blue Cell
Nah, I'm good.
makes a 100% android with such perfect AI that it has it's own free will
doesn't want it to go in harms way, so he takes two people, who have free will, and turn them into androids, with free will, and uses a threat to coerce their behavior
finally, creates a completely artificial biological creature who's programming is so perfect that despite having free will, he still wants to do exactly what Gero wanted him to do
make it happen toriyama
but unlike the old cell lets have pan kill cyan cell
and uses a threat to coerce their behavior
that sure worked well for him
TpT wears a turtleneck
Super Trunks wears a green sweater
I want this to be true, but they aren't really the same aside from color
They are clearly Brazilians.