Why do we barely talk about Texhnolyze when it's way more deep than Evangelion?

Chase Watson
Chase Watson

Why do we barely talk about Texhnolyze when it's way more deep than Evangelion?

Leo Parker
Leo Parker

Because it's pretty good but Eva caught on quicker

Dominic Cook
Dominic Cook

Because we talked about it years ago.

Eva on the other hand gets watched more so people make more threads, and there are new movies being made.
Well I think, it's difficult to tell since they come out every decade or so

Ryder Watson
Ryder Watson

Because it's a piece of junk.

Dominic Morales
Dominic Morales

Because it has serious pacing problems. It's almost obnoxious with how greatly it stretches its scenes out.

John Lewis
John Lewis

kids talk about it a lot on MAL.

Dylan Bennett
Dylan Bennett

They unironically think this garbage is artsy, deep and complex (kek), because it lacks dialogues, everything is dark and grey and everybody behave like a mentally afflicted shitlord. MUH MUTURE ANIMAY.

Ian Lopez
Ian Lopez

Pretentious 2deep4u garbage.

James Anderson
James Anderson

I cant be as handsome as Yoshii :(

Adam Perez
Adam Perez

more deep

not deeper

Ich ben ist die baiten?

Christopher Smith
Christopher Smith

Posting superior pretentious cyberpunk shit. I like both equally

Julian Russell
Julian Russell

I'll never be cool as Yoshii.
Why even live, His deathwas cool as fuck as well.

Grayson Johnson
Grayson Johnson

Ich habe gesÞndigt

Aaron Nelson
Aaron Nelson

Why is rei so sex?
Perfect body shape, doujin when?

William Wilson
William Wilson

Are there ANY Ergo Proxy doujins? I'd be surprised to find one.

Benjamin Nguyen
Benjamin Nguyen

Because on a surface level, there's not much to discuss that hasn't been discussed already, unlike Eva which has plenty of superficial traits that can be reposted for eternity, the most obvious example being waifu wars and general shitposting about it's apparent craziness and position in the industry.

Texhnolyze didn't really affect anything and just sort of gets mentioned every now and then while also attracting obnoxious retards that either don't know why it's good or miss the point of the show entirely. You can still have a decent thread with the right people around though.

Jordan Smith
Jordan Smith

But I like anime that has less dialogues on it.

It makes it more atmospheric

Jose Russell
Jose Russell

Spotted the fullretard.

Eli Carter
Eli Carter

Because we don't have Technolyze Remastered Blu-Rays yet.

Zachary Myers
Zachary Myers

Well, Texhnolyze is not that depressive as anons said.

Nolan Morales
Nolan Morales

Only the ending was depressive, literally came out of nowhere.

Adrian Perez
Adrian Perez

What a garbage thread. Shame on you, OP. If you actually want a good thread then start one properly.

An ending foretold since the halfway point of the show came out of nowhere?

Asher King
Asher King

MC couldn't protect loli
Nor couldn't change his fate
Everyone became full cyborgs or dies
Humanity ends
MC ends dying alone while remembering the good times
no that sad

Camden Price
Camden Price

It's definitely one of my favorites, but it's hard to rewatch. It's a fucking depressing ride.

Grayson Green
Grayson Green

Are you dumb user?

Jeremiah Wood
Jeremiah Wood

If this is your very first 'depressing' stuff, then yeah baby, it's true. Otherwise you realize it's just a try hard bullcrap which is just slightly better than ergo proxy.

Sebastian Reyes
Sebastian Reyes

he's_going_all_out.jpg

Bentley Brown
Bentley Brown

it's way more deep than Evangelion?

It's really not at all. More boring and poorly executed though.

Tyler Thompson
Tyler Thompson

I hope you don't hug your mom with those hot opinions.

Hudson Fisher
Hudson Fisher

no waifus no threads

Josiah Taylor
Josiah Taylor

How did she die?

Landon Green
Landon Green

U mad, fanboi?

Austin Turner
Austin Turner

way more deep than Evangelion?
m8, even Azumanga Daioh was that

Robert Wood
Robert Wood

suicide by drowning

Dylan Bennett
Dylan Bennett

Let's not forget about the best secretary.

Jason Ward
Jason Ward

It's the lack of waifus and slow pacing.

David Thompson
David Thompson

Ah

William Morales
William Morales

What a coincidence, I finished this just last week. It was alright, I guess it's not talked about that much because there's nothing to talk about and unlike Eva, there's not a legion of people who want to jerk it to the underage girls in it posting pictures of them all the time.
But yeah Ergo Proxy did it better, despite shitting itself near the end.

Christian Ramirez
Christian Ramirez

This show was so fucking boring. Holy shit. There were a few shocker moments here and there, but overall it was a boring story with boring, mostly unlikable characters.

William Price
William Price

What has he done wrong? What where yoshii's goals again?
Just, what what the message of the show?

Joseph Adams
Joseph Adams

It's sad to be dumb, user

Joshua Hernandez
Joshua Hernandez

Texhnolyze is the end of anime, nothing really comes close.

Ryan Scott
Ryan Scott

Yoshi turned out to be a fucking psychopath.

Justin Garcia
Justin Garcia

Because Eva is far, far more accessible.

Benjamin Evans
Benjamin Evans

because it lacks dialogues, everything is dark and grey
There is nothing wrong with this you pretentious fuck.

Logan Gray
Logan Gray

He wasn't, though.
He was Kano's polar opposite in that he was a humanist who wanted to see humans truly live, as opposed to Kano whose solipsism led to humanity's extinction.

Landon Carter
Landon Carter

Texhnolyze is my favorite anime
I liked the dub better
>inb4 "so you liked an american guy groaning more than a japanese guy"

Aaron Rogers
Aaron Rogers

I liked the sub because Shinji, Yoshii and Ichise's VAs were really good.

Samuel Robinson
Samuel Robinson

monologue monologue monologue monologue
still shot for half a minute

seriously fuck anime that does this, it's not deep it's pretentious and lazy

Noah Scott
Noah Scott

it's the contents of the monologue and the shot that make it pretentious, not just its presence.

Eli Nguyen
Eli Nguyen

not just it's presence

if the presence is overbearing and is overused in contrast to you know stuff like dialogue that actually explains what the fuck is going on then it's going to turn out like shit

now technolyze isn't the worst offender here, but relying as much as it did on internal thoughts and feelings of individual characters to carry the story sure as fuck didn't help

you can write a deep and thought provoking story without the need to rely on them either

Christopher Evans
Christopher Evans

Because it's not as accessible

Benjamin Clark
Benjamin Clark

It's not discussed because the plot isn't really set up for interesting interpretations unlike eva
It's basically
guy shows up in town
blows shit up
sets up tension between local gangs
dies
go outside to see where he came from
everyone outside is a robot and apparently lost the will to live
come back
everyone became robots because the elites
kill the elites
nothing left now
sit back and wait to die

Grayson Price
Grayson Price

what was the message in this?

Jacob Hall
Jacob Hall

What made tex amazing was its soundtrack and the backgrounds/landscapes. The story isn't that important, it's the hopeless atmosphere that really got me.

Landon Bell
Landon Bell

Transhumanism is not the answer.
There is no answer.

Benjamin Perry
Benjamin Perry

This sexy shirt and little tie

Brandon Cox
Brandon Cox

Ergo proxy was shit

Dominic Edwards
Dominic Edwards

Re-l makes my dick hard

Easton Murphy
Easton Murphy

If you are an edgy teen, then sure.

Alexander Sanders
Alexander Sanders

edgy

Michael Howard
Michael Howard

What does sex with her feel like?

Jeremiah Sullivan
Jeremiah Sullivan

Her bitch face and cold attitude makes my dick diamonds

James Martin
James Martin

replying with a tumblr meme
Sure as hell, kiddo.

Gavin Scott
Gavin Scott

It was a good dub desu, pic related's voice was top tier stuff.

Christopher Garcia
Christopher Garcia

Kano was such a disturbing character

Andrew Johnson
Andrew Johnson

How depressing.

Kevin Sanders
Kevin Sanders

Because it's not actually deep but rather it's equivalent to getting waterboarded

Oliver James
Oliver James

yeah he was until he GOT HIS FUCKING FACE PUNCHED OFF.

UNF

Blake Fisher
Blake Fisher

because it's shit compared to other good anime Sup Forums never talks about Gankutsuou

Jackson Robinson
Jackson Robinson

b-but i liked both Texhnolyze and Gankutsuo. They're both in my top 10.

I couldn't get any of my friends to watch even more than half an episode because LOLWTFARETHESECOLORS IT LOOSK LIKE CHOWDER

Sebastian Rivera
Sebastian Rivera

When Ichise asks his arm and leg to move one last time and it does.

There were so many beautiful and sweet scenes in this show. Not everyone was edgy or mean. I liked Doc, Onishi, and Toyama the most I think.

Michael Brooks
Michael Brooks

This is what my Texhnolyzation should be used for.

Christian Nguyen
Christian Nguyen

not liking Gakutsuous art work and art direction

Your friends have poor taste.

Liam Campbell
Liam Campbell

I have a feeling that Texhnolyze was heavily influenced by Nihei.

Samuel Morgan
Samuel Morgan

because Sup Forums is infested with plebs

Dylan Flores
Dylan Flores

I just bought Man of Men and Music Only Music But Music, The OSTs for Texhnolyze the othe day

Ian Green
Ian Green

Ichise becomes Killy

James Gutierrez
James Gutierrez

anime
deep

Mason Morales
Mason Morales

this.
awesome art

Hudson Baker
Hudson Baker

way more deep
OP is a complete idiot that has no understanding of the term depth.

Adam Moore
Adam Moore

Well?

Joseph Bennett
Joseph Bennett

because it's too depressing
at least Evangelion gave me the will to go on
This, this just induces depression

Elijah Cruz
Elijah Cruz

I find it more worthy of praise than Eva. It's depressing, but it has much better direction and characters to me.

Mason Diaz
Mason Diaz

Not everything that has a sad ending is bad, you know?

Dylan Rivera
Dylan Rivera

Why? It just means that we have to stop trying to make ourselves into what we're not and live like the humans we are.

Aaron Anderson
Aaron Anderson

Great argument

Cameron Thomas
Cameron Thomas

I would argue that Doc was ultimately right in her intentions of giving man a means to live on with Texhnolyzation and use it for good.
Look at what Onishi and Ichise were able to do with her help. It may not have saved everything, but her intentions were from a good place.

Adam Perry
Adam Perry

RAN DID NOTHING WRONG

Christian Williams
Christian Williams

It could have been more successful if the characters included more teenagers.

Austin Barnes
Austin Barnes

But it wasn't working because Lux was forced into a class society where only the rich gangsters were able to afford it.

Nicholas Ross
Nicholas Ross

dude Texhnolyze's ending rejects nihilism, its incredibly poignant but it'd be underselling the series if you say it only aims to make you depressed.

Thomas Hughes
Thomas Hughes

Anyone who argues that she did do something wrong has no idea what they're talking about

Nolan Richardson
Nolan Richardson

I find it just as good as Eva direction wise
Even though Eva had budget issues by the last few episodes, Anno did well with what he had
And EoE is still a beautiful masterpiece that assimilates all the themes of the show and goes into one of the best climaxes

Never implied it was bad, I appreciate Texhnolyze for what it is and love the pacing and directiion of the show
I just hated the hopeless feeling the atmosphere emitted, and yes before you imply something I know it was the point
I can still appreciate art and still have have an opinion on why it wouldn't be my first choice

Evangelion just does the, "even if things are hopeless, it's ok, everything is going to be alright in the end" like a mother's embrace.
Texholyze was like a "it doesn't matter what you do or what you try, fate is unavoidable. Your struggles didn't amount to anything and you are alone"

Eli Sanchez
Eli Sanchez

People might not realize this but Texhnolyze isn't that obscure, not on Sup Forums at least.
go to the archives and you'll see it gets mentioned more than even some shows that aired in previous seasons.

Robert Lewis
Robert Lewis

She drove the city insane and begged Onishi to kill her. She tried to help though.
The Class killed everyone that was inferior and drove them underground.
Can you explain a little more for my and benefit?

Jack Ortiz
Jack Ortiz

RIP Manglobe

Mason Gomez
Mason Gomez

And even underground a class society formed

Brandon Thompson
Brandon Thompson

Yep.

I wouldnt say it was particularly deep, but if there was anyhting I took away from it, it was the humans need challenges and hardship in their lives. Which is perfectly true. Underground life was shit, but everyon had a will to live. Above ground life was tranquil, but it drained everyone of their will to live.

Shame people hype it up as more than that.

Ethan Rogers
Ethan Rogers

Right, but at least it was existing and alive, even if the people were struggling.

Jayden Ross
Jayden Ross

I DIP MY HANDS INTO THIS DARKNESS

Luke Gomez
Luke Gomez

I can understand what you mean, Texhnolyze is like trudging through a sewer for the reward of a kick in the teeth narrative wise, but its main message isn't that, It's the fact that those efforts were made that Ichise managed to grow as a human, It did amount to something in the end because of the fact that people were living and trying and fighting like real people.
Personally I feel people who interpret Texhnolyze having a message of nihilism kind of missed the point.

Anthony Walker
Anthony Walker

Why do we barely talk about Real Drive when it's way more deep than Evangelion?

Nicholas Taylor
Nicholas Taylor

but it was a Sup Forums meme since I was in Middle School

Austin Watson
Austin Watson

It was pretty good. I've liked most of the series Chiaki Konaka has worked on so can't wait for the new show he's working on this year.

Connor Diaz
Connor Diaz

Is Rakka cute?

Isaac Cox
Isaac Cox

Very

Robert Anderson
Robert Anderson

THIS IS THE INK OF ALALALAYFTIMES

Parker Perez
Parker Perez

I like your interpretation but I don't think it's the only one available to make out of the show.
I can just say that even though Ichise changed as a whole person, it was too late to make anything out of himself for the future because he could not escape the fate Ran saw in him, which was another theme.
I do like that you can interpret something bittersweet from it. But man was it tragic.
I loved the flower projection in the end Ran probably left for him as a farewell
I wish I had that image compilation of Ichise walking down a street talking with Rin asking her if she thinks he has changed.
And at the very end where she's supposed to be image wise, is a Shape in the last panel

Luis Sanchez
Luis Sanchez

who the fuck is the Texhnolyze committee?
i'm still in the dark about who wrote and directed this show

Alexander Morgan
Alexander Morgan

onishi and shinjis deaths

Was beautiful but made me feel a little

Oliver Anderson
Oliver Anderson

it was too late to make anything out of himself for the future because he could not escape the fate Ran saw in him, which was another theme.
I do like that you can interpret something bittersweet from it. But man was it tragic.
Not that user, but many people have pointed out how the show is basically classic Greek tragedy in a sci-fi setting.

If nihilism is really what the show was going for then I really don't think the show needed to be closed off with the ending sequence that we got.

So as pessimistic as the show is about mankind collectively, it offers individual redemption in the form of Ichise, and does it in the most tender way possible.

The staff credit is right in the OP so I don't know how you'd feel in the dark about who directed and wrote it.

William Edwards
William Edwards

Hal what happened? You look like a monster truck!

Parker Martinez
Parker Martinez

Toyama went out in an awesome way too.

Nathan Green
Nathan Green

What's your take on Oonishi and Shinji?
Also a characters that offers individual redemption in his twisted world?

Thomas Lopez
Thomas Lopez

Ran is the best part of this show for me. I wanted to watch it but I got bored after a couple of episodes so I just watched the interesting parts

James Roberts
James Roberts

I like the style, but the execution in most scenes was just kind of lacklustre. The awful 3dcg didn't help matters either.
I like the show a lot but despite being a fan of unique aesthetics in animation I don't think Gankutsuou quite did it as well as I had hoped.

Christian Gonzalez
Christian Gonzalez

Plebs need to fuck off from Sup Forums right off.

The very idea that superficial anime with "waifus" (evangelion) and edgy style an dno substance (Ergo proxy) are seen as better than Texhnolyze by Sup Forums says a lot about this places plebness.

Evangelion and Ergo Proxy are trash compared to it, in themes, direction, characters and maturity.

Oliver Kelly
Oliver Kelly

I agree with Ergo Proxy being trash compared to this but you are giving too little credit to Evangelion. Pair Evangelion anime with the movie, End of Evangelion and it is damn good.

Michael Nelson
Michael Nelson

I loved Gankutsuo
I just hated how
Albert's kiss undid the Count's curse and it just effectively killed him. Because Albert had homoerotic feelings towards the Count, that saved him from dying by his hand?
Everything else was fine though. That anime was pleasing to watch, also, Peppo was best "girl"

Brody Diaz
Brody Diaz

I implore you to try it again. It's got some of the best characters besides just Ran.

Lucas Scott
Lucas Scott

You're right. As the other user said, though, Evangelion is far from being bad or superficial. Tex is underrated for sure, but NGE is hardly all style and no substance.

Sebastian Anderson
Sebastian Anderson

unsupported opinions and bashing the post
calls others pleb instead of reading the damn thread
shows how pretentious you really are

Jeremiah Cook
Jeremiah Cook

It's actually just about as deep as a puddle. It's only a pseudo-deep anime, in that it tries to make it seem like it's deep but it's really not.

Luis Cox
Luis Cox

While I don't think Eva is all bad and it does have some good characters and explores the themes of depression and piloting mecha in a good way, I just don't like it as much as Tex.

Ayden Morales
Ayden Morales

Evangelion
superficial
It's not. It doesn't pretend to be something it's not
I assure you that if it was not as popular as it was, it would be treated as a cult classic in here and by people such as yourself

Colton King
Colton King

wew

Zachary Myers
Zachary Myers

And just like every other post that claims this, you never provide any convincing argumentative support.

Benjamin Reyes
Benjamin Reyes

The burden of proof isn't on us prove your shitty pseudo-intellectual anime has depth.

Liam Johnson
Liam Johnson

Its not deep

I am sure he will provide solid points to back it up

It's only a pseudo-deep anime, in that it tries to make it seem like it's deep but it's really not.

So just a shit opinion and nothing. Not surprised.

Alexander Clark
Alexander Clark

Yes it is. You start an argument, you support your argument. Else your post has no merit and deserves no serious consideration. You make a claim, you prove your claim.

Connor Hernandez
Connor Hernandez

Wow! Technology makes us less human!
Super Deep.

Henry Kelly
Henry Kelly

I thought people were exaggerating how soul killing this got but my fucking god that ending.

Nathaniel Parker
Nathaniel Parker

Incorrect, it's how you use that technology is what it was implying. Doc had it right.

Easton Martin
Easton Martin

no substance (Ergo proxy)
found the retard

Nathaniel Brooks
Nathaniel Brooks

So you didn't watch the series?

Joshua Thompson
Joshua Thompson

Texhnolyze will never get a BD release

Zachary Gray
Zachary Gray

It would look awful if they tried, it hails from the dark early days of digital animation.

Jack Ortiz
Jack Ortiz

waifus
So I guess every Fellini and Bergman movie now is shallow because most of them featured attractive women.

Xavier Adams
Xavier Adams

Why was Don Ramon such a total badass

Henry Lopez
Henry Lopez

He's right. Ergo Proxy never goes anywhere with its philosophy, and as much as it tries to demonstrate it, it sacrifices meaningful character depth and plot, so much so that they had to force the most important explanations into a blink and miss info dump. The only characters that get any real depth are Re-l, Pino, and Vincent. And even so, with all of the philosophical things that are stuffed in but never fully blend in with the rest of the show's elements, the world building is off and lackluster.

James White
James White

I'm mixed on this since I'd want a BD box just for commentary tracks, retrospectives, interviews, sketches that Hamasaki or any of the staff did. It'd look awful though, just like the Haibane upscales.

Leo Torres
Leo Torres

Nah, the Haibane Renmei release looks awful and so would this.

Just get the DVDs for the funny outtakes and the commentaries.

Leo Davis
Leo Davis

Does the show ever present people using technology in a positive way?

Jonathan Sanders
Jonathan Sanders

Onishi and Ichise tried to help the people and survive in Lux. Doc even remarks that her Texhnolyzation should be used for good when Ichise hugs her.

Thomas Gutierrez
Thomas Gutierrez

It's not "technology" itself as much as the human efforts toward perfection that are the subject of criticism. Kano failed because it isn't possible. He reached the pinnacle of human evolution, and what came of it? Being rooted to the ground.

Wyatt Brooks
Wyatt Brooks

why is the ED so good but so sad. Fits perfectly with the show though.

Jordan Gonzalez
Jordan Gonzalez

The soundtracks are godly.

Xavier Reed
Xavier Reed

I was planning to watch this years ago, actually it'd've been one of my first anime, but then I just forgot about it. But I've been thinking about it more again lately, so maybe I'll have it finished by the end of the year.

Ryder Reyes
Ryder Reyes

Glorious Gackt

Joseph Davis
Joseph Davis

Then you have probably missed it's point. The only character with any real depth are Vincent, Raul, 4 statues and Proxy One. Re-I is not a protagonist, she is both figuratively and functionally a plot device. And Pino is a fun service.
Never goes anywhere? What do you think this show is about, because I have a feeling you didn't quite grasp. I see a lot of people telling this, and i don't understand them. Maybe they just didn't get, what did dai sato try to tell?

Adrian Wilson
Adrian Wilson

Because Haibane Renmei was better, user.

Noah Williams
Noah Williams

Hard to find even reg Hentai of her too.

Perfect waifu material!

Isaiah Collins
Isaiah Collins

It never goes anywhere because it does not incorporate itself into the story successfully. The point is not that I don't understand the plot, it's that there is not enough narrative depth or substance to it or its characters because it is overshadowed by the philosophical things the team is trying to convey. Therefore, the series' quality as a story is lacking. The "point" is not tied in well because they care more about its philosophical elements than creating a well rounded story. Character development is lacking. A good story does not JUST have protagonists as the only ones developed. Characters such as the Regent or Raul are bland, which contrasts with the important parts of the story they are supposed to be involved in. World and plot building are unsatisfied and incomplete, because rather than properly demonstrating show don't tell, they cram the important bits into the smallest spaces possible. There is no way you can be satisfied with a lazy infodump that contrasts from the atmosphere of the rest of the series, and hurriedly tells you the most important information about the plot in thirty seconds.

Connor Martin
Connor Martin

That I can agree with, but I do think it's intended, love it or hate it. Numerous titles overuse this "hide in smallest spaces possible" or "make rewatch to understand", I tend to think it's more a traditional stereotype of "depth", and I can't argue with you don't liking it, it's your right.

Regent is indeed bland, he wasn't given any time at all, but Raul? He may lack screen time, but he seemed well exposed to me. His theomachist solution had great appeal for me, in fact it's a mirror of One's decision - to fight.

And on the character development in general - I can't grasp the term. Most of the good films feature static characters. Story is showing their behaviour in complex situation, but they are already formed adult guys. Only typical-schooler shounen guys change, and always in some stupid flavor of 'git gud at fighting\sex and wearing a scary face'. I don't see anything wrong with only two characters having any development in the series - Vincent (to accept the memories he tossed away and the reason he was created) and Raul (to outgrow fellow citizen phase).

I agree, it could have made a good use of additional 3-4 episodes, but I just can't forget the impact it made on me when it came out. I'm too subjective indeed, but I can't not forgive it's flaws for it's virtue - the thought it gave me.

Camden Carter
Camden Carter

Why was the surface so horrible?

Leo Taylor
Leo Taylor

so that it's just like real life

Jaxson Barnes
Jaxson Barnes

horrifying moment

Luis Smith
Luis Smith

It's so mechanical and dehumanizing. Fucking scary. At least Ran put up a fight before being texhnolyzed.

Noah Hall
Noah Hall

tfw he also did this with Ran
I'll never stop being sad.

Jayden Robinson
Jayden Robinson

At least she got to be with Ichise one last time and turned into beautiful flowers

Jace Russell
Jace Russell

Because Tex is a pretentious boring piecve of shit
inb4 it's not pretentious it doesn't have any quotes from books
implying scilence and random pace aren't pretentious
it's a tryhard to be a nihilistic cyberpunk

Xavier Mitchell
Xavier Mitchell

showing the plot instead of explaining it is pretentious
having a slow pace to create an atmosphere is pretentious

Ryder Wood
Ryder Wood

random pace
How, if anything it moves a little slowly for some.

Jacob Wright
Jacob Wright

I don't think you know what pretentious means

Hudson Garcia
Hudson Garcia

I'm not arguing any show's quality, I'm highlighting your idiocy for saying "way more deep".

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