Will political correctness one day conquer anime and manga? It already...

Brandon Perry
Brandon Perry

Will political correctness one day conquer anime and manga? It already conquered books, movies, comics and video games.

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http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/05/06/national/social-issues/bullying-of-lgbt-students-at-epidemic-levels-in-japan-human-rights-watch/
Grayson Sanchez
Grayson Sanchez

/pol/

Alexander Thompson
Alexander Thompson

Unlikely.

Josiah Williams
Josiah Williams

That's great.

Jordan Sanchez
Jordan Sanchez

How new are you?
america is NOT the whole world.

Easton Cooper
Easton Cooper

No one can answer that, it totally depends on whether or not Cultural Marxism settles down in Japan.

Jackson Nelson
Jackson Nelson

Is not like anime is politically incorrect to begin with.

Sebastian Jones
Sebastian Jones

Cultural Marxism
/pol/

Bentley Thomas
Bentley Thomas

Is this what you do when someone expresses an opinion you don't like?

Liam Sanchez
Liam Sanchez

how can you even ask that when super lovers is airing this season?

Hunter Parker
Hunter Parker

It's a /pol/ thread.

Jace Nguyen
Jace Nguyen

I'll conquer your butthole bitchboi

Christopher Green
Christopher Green

can't see it happening any time soon, japs are more homophobic and sexist then niggers

Nathaniel Hernandez
Nathaniel Hernandez

not wanting a market where Ikuhara can make as many series as he wants

Robert Phillips
Robert Phillips

more homophobic
They're not.

Christopher James
Christopher James

It's already starting here so who the fuck knows?
Ikuhara is the opposite of PC. Despite his strong womyn and lesbians there's a lot of content that the modern PC crowd are repulsed by Unless they actually liked Touga and Akio, in which case they're all hypocritical whores

Aaron Cook
Aaron Cook

oh fuck

Adrian Jones
Adrian Jones

Utena is considered the most "feminist" anime ever created, so no, not really.

Ryan Bell
Ryan Bell

implying it wasn't the case since fucking episode 1.

Jeremiah Cruz
Jeremiah Cruz

I can't imagine why.

Ryder Thompson
Ryder Thompson

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/05/06/national/social-issues/bullying-of-lgbt-students-at-epidemic-levels-in-japan-human-rights-watch/

Just because a bunch of yaoi and yuri porn exist doesn't mean they're not homophobic

Anthony Cox
Anthony Cox

/This.
Im really sick of this sjw bullshit.

Christopher Sanchez
Christopher Sanchez

boys can be girls too
I see right through you, Watari

Lincoln Richardson
Lincoln Richardson

Bullying fags happens anywhere. Feudal Japan already had relationships between men and younger boys that were seen as legitimate. You underestimate the homoeroticism in Japanese culture, by which I don't mean to say that the Japanese are especially gay but that the picture of a strong Japanese homophobic society is entirely wrong.

Henry Nelson
Henry Nelson

They'll bully kids to suicide for reasons as simple as a missing button on their school uniform. The real issue is the school system that puts immense amounts of stress on the children through insane rules (such as only allowing students to have particular hair lengths, and teachers searching through the private belongings of the students on a whim to steal whatever they don't approve of) and constant meaningless busywork (forcing them to clean the building, take care of animals and so on) piled upon incredibly fast-paced and competitive classes where test results are displayed to everyone, and the only way to avoid public shame is going to cram school until late at night.

In an environment like that where you're not even allowed to have any free time for relieving stress, it's no wonder that the children latch onto any little difference and bully their classmates as a game they can play even at school.

Landon Murphy
Landon Murphy

Life can be good once in a while.

Jordan Robinson
Jordan Robinson

Asia is fucking wild. Some Korean user explained the school timetable in Worst Korea and it was pretty much 'We're taking your life away from you. No need to give an answer, it wasn't a question.'

Lincoln Cooper
Lincoln Cooper

Yes, because with this amazon investing anime thing and others, western market and western standards became a important thing. You the western consumers of licensed anime is the main reason of death of anime in the future

Julian Wright
Julian Wright

What a huge load of bullshit
Every single sentence of your post is wrong
Kill yourself

Blake Hernandez
Blake Hernandez

the picture of a strong Japanese homophobic society is entirely wrong.
That doesn't really say anything about the teens getting bullied for being LGBT

Julian Bailey
Julian Bailey

They're not bullying them to relieve stress. That doesn't even explain why teachers do it too. Also both can be serious issues, so I don't see why you're trying to minimize one of them as if it's not a big deal.

Sebastian Cruz
Sebastian Cruz

The system itself isn't bad.
The problem is the fact that Japan is essentially forcing people into unity and collectivism while also having a huge emphasis on individualism when it comes to emotions and general off work life. Instead of forcing it you should be creating things that enable the need and interest in unity. National Socialist Germany did this extremely well and Japan already has things like clubs in schools. Japanese people need to feel less pressure from the general society and instead create the desire for this unity, togetherness and willingness to share certain things in order to bring people closer together without forcing it so much that the society can barely breath.

Connor Rogers
Connor Rogers

No, if you open your eyes you'll see that this goes from promoted, to accepted and vilified. It happens in all nations/countries and has a huge range.

Leo Mitchell
Leo Mitchell

No, the japs don't care.

Samuel Stewart
Samuel Stewart

What are you even talking about?

Ryder Thomas
Ryder Thomas

But if Japan has a history of homoeroticism, why would they need to go through that? Shouldn't they already be fine with gay people existing?

Blake Clark
Blake Clark

They are.

Hudson Reed
Hudson Reed

I never get tired of reading this.

Nicholas Torres
Nicholas Torres

They're clearly not, otherwise gay teens wouldn't be getting bullied

Jason Gray
Jason Gray

That doesn't even explain why teachers do it too.
Do you realize how stressful Japanese workplaces are? That, and them wanting to keep the class orderly. Considering how even straight couples making it clear they like eachother at school is seen as "inappropriate conduct", it's no wonder they don't care for sexual aberrations and special snowflakes.

Anthony Rodriguez
Anthony Rodriguez

Why are you so adamant on blaming it on stress and not the idea that people actually still hate gay people?

Blake Kelly
Blake Kelly

I wonder how ignorant you are? Does the entire nation bully faggots? No.
Again, if you'd open your eyes you'd see that faggots get bullied in schools all over the planet. They're easy to pick on and usually totally obnoxious.

Lucas Jones
Lucas Jones

lolwut
Go back to your containment board retard

Lucas Butler
Lucas Butler

What a masterpiece.

William Rivera
William Rivera

Because that's what Japanese bullying is like, Tumblr. You have no reason to talk about being gay at school, just as you wouldn't talk about how you're into anal vore.

Isaiah Campbell
Isaiah Campbell

I don't see why you're trying to defend the whole country now. Also, letting happen and not doing anything about it does show how much they actually care, which doesn't seem to be a whole lot. But keep believing you're weird fantasy of how perfect Japan is, I guess.

Lincoln Martinez
Lincoln Martinez

Holy shit, this pic says it all.

how dare those stupid japs not accept my special snowflake identity?!

Kayden Powell
Kayden Powell

political correctness
books
movies
maybe stop being a mainstream normie and start watching indie films.

Thomas Harris
Thomas Harris

Bullying is part of japan pop industry. Bullying produce beta virgins otaku who spend all money on BD and other stuff.

Chase Wilson
Chase Wilson

I don't see why you're trying to defend the whole country now
I don't see why you're trying to throw the entire country into one pot because of bullying that happens everywhere.

But keep believing you're weird fantasy of how perfect Japan is, I guess.
See this is literally you making shit up. I never said that but keep believing your weird fantasy of how homophobe all Japs are.

Jaxson Nguyen
Jaxson Nguyen

Gays teens get bullied in the US and the Netherlands and Spain too. Doesn't negate the fact that they're some of the most gay-friendly nations in the world since the population at large is indifferent at worst.

Joshua Reed
Joshua Reed

Only if the PCunts in japan can get replacement theory to work.

Isaiah James
Isaiah James

lolwut
Speaking of containment boards.

Nicholas Sanchez
Nicholas Sanchez

They don't care about any kind of bullying. Also, shit like bullying fags in school happens even in the most PC countries. Stop forcing this gay agenda, tumblr.

Luis Scott
Luis Scott

what

Matthew Gutierrez
Matthew Gutierrez

i know absolutely nothing about japan but am determined to see it as a homophobic nation

Isaac Morris
Isaac Morris

The so-called sexual violence in manga and video games is a made-up thing and as such does not threaten the rights of actual people; therefore, it is meaningless in protecting the rights of women
And this is way I love nips

James Foster
James Foster

Yes. Yes they do.

Nathaniel Mitchell
Nathaniel Mitchell

test results are displayed to everyone

Wait you mean that's not the case in America?

Here in east europe they're also made public and nobody really cares. Even when some teachers handed tests individually, everyone still shared their grades with each other and made them public.

I mean if someone is fucking dumb it's not like you need grades to figure it out.

Matthew Anderson
Matthew Anderson

I didn't want to reply to a tripfag but
incest
loli
loli incest
incest loli
The lost goes on.

Benjamin Barnes
Benjamin Barnes

grades reflect intelligence

Also, of course kids will share them. I'll not say that public grades are a bad thing because I can't judge that, but either way kids would share them regardless of if it's psychologically harmful or not - that's the kind of environment a school is.

Adrian Sullivan
Adrian Sullivan

Wait you mean that's not the case in America?
Not really, but people usually share them with their friends anyway

Ayden Miller
Ayden Miller

They don't want any kids to feel bad that they got a D while everyone else got an A.

Andrew Sanders
Andrew Sanders

I'm not saying test results need to be completely secret, but ranking every single student of the school on a huge billboard for all to see is going a bit far.

Jayden Peterson
Jayden Peterson

Hey, did you know? In South America there are Neo-nazi groups, that means that South America is Pro-nazi

Chase Scott
Chase Scott

If you're in school and can neither learn for a test, nor cheat properly then yeah you're dumb.

If you don't care about school then don't waste your time by attending and getting subpar grades, get a job instead, that's also a sign of intelligence and a choice I can respect. But if you still choose to go to school while getting only "passing grades" or worse, repeating the year several times, then I don't see how you can claim otherwise.

Eli Peterson
Eli Peterson

You are mixing several different kinds of abilities there and without regard for what exactly they constitute or how they are measured.
I don't care to write a lengthy response to you though.

Aiden Butler
Aiden Butler

You may be autistic in the original sense of the word, bud.

Aaron Sanchez
Aaron Sanchez

What is the difference between loli incest and incest look loli? Loli incest is fucking your loli sister, maybe incest loli is your daughter born from incest with your loli sister?

Jose Clark
Jose Clark

It works like
bitch that hardworking studio head is a shit
get public on your side
he gets fired and replaced with someone you agree with
repeat until everyone submits

Ayden Wood
Ayden Wood

Probably because you can't.

I'm mixing several different kinds of abilities because that's what intelligence is. It's not just one ability, it's several capabilities. Pattern recognition, logical reasoning, clustered thinking, etc.

If you can't finish something as basic as middle or highschool (either through learning or cheating) then you simply lack intelligence in a lot of those departments. Note the use of "can't" and not, "don't". You can be intelligence and choose to drop out of school, or choose to never attend it in the first place.

Jaxson Howard
Jaxson Howard

You can be intelligence and choose to drop out of school, or choose to never attend it in the first place.
Indeed.
And then you have the morons who work 5 hours a day outside of school to get passing grades.
And then your whole theory of grades representing intelligence collapses.

Carson Cruz
Carson Cruz

Pretty sure school is a mandatory thing in quite a few places.

Matthew Long
Matthew Long

Not understanding jokes is a literal sign of autism ;^)

John Moore
John Moore

Don't use emoticons on Sup Forums.

Nolan Ortiz
Nolan Ortiz

You don't even want to know about double incest lolis

Evan James
Evan James

He can't do that now? I love Sekuhara but there's no point in gutting the industry of so much of its hilarious, trashy charm just so that he gets a little more focus.

Jaxon Gonzalez
Jaxon Gonzalez

;:^)

Cameron Lopez
Cameron Lopez

Can't say I've never seen a loli that was pregnant with twins.

Logan Harris
Logan Harris

Holy shit Japan when did you stop being super beta?

Signed: A woman

Oh I guess that explains it

Nathaniel Reed
Nathaniel Reed

And then your whole theory of grades representing intelligence collapses.

Well that's because you made your own strawman argument to attack instead of taking what I said at face value. I never claimed someone with 90 points in a test is more intelligent than someone with 80 points or anything like that. I claimed that you don't need grades to figure out if someone is stupid.

Someone who gets high grades isn't necessarily intelligent, but someone who always gets bad grades while still choosing to attend school is most likely dumb.
And please no more of those "working at 4 part-time jobs while taking care of their siblings and attending school simultaneously" examples, no discussion ever got anywhere by focusing on rare exceptions.

Jacob Moore
Jacob Moore

Well that's because you made your own strawman argument to attack instead of taking what I said at face value.
No, I took the implication of what you said and rejected it. You argued against that, so you accepted that implication as part of your statement.
someone who always gets bad grades while still choosing to attend school is most likely dumb.
No.
The truth is, school is easier than work.
Staying in school with bad grades may not be the responsible choice (though even a bad diploma is better than no diploma at all), but it's the choice of somebody who doesn't want to work yet.
If you equate diligence with intelligence, then you are wrong.

Tyler Mitchell
Tyler Mitchell

None of these are politically incorrect IN JAPAN.
Western media is affected by western polical correctness. You never see the emperor or wwii war crimes in anime or manga, that's because it's not politically correct to do it. Lolis are fine.

Brayden Howard
Brayden Howard

The anime market is so heavily reliant on pervert otaku, I'm not worried about political correctness. The downside is they're terrible plebs, though.

The manga market's more diverse so if Japan gets hit by the SJW, I imagine that'll be affected first, but even then I'm sure your loli raep doujins are safe.

Evan Reyes
Evan Reyes

anon argues X
why do you argue X?

Gavin Bennett
Gavin Bennett

Why is this thread still up?

Lincoln Fisher
Lincoln Fisher

merely pretending
Riddle me this, then. What's the point of repeating the joke he made?

Chase Young
Chase Young

Why shouldn't people hate those degenerate bug chasers?

Lincoln Price
Lincoln Price

It already conquered books, movies, comics and video games.
memes
Sure, it did.

Gavin Myers
Gavin Myers

conquered
fuck off

Wyatt Reed
Wyatt Reed

None of these are politically incorrect IN JAPAN.
Are you kidding me? Go ask random Japanese people on the street what they think about incest and loli hentai and see what they reply.

Jace Morales
Jace Morales

But those anime are almost always about cousins or not-blood-related.

loli hentai
airing on TV

Mason Young
Mason Young

Late night anime is not representative of the Japanese views as they're targeted towards otakus. The man on the street would be disgusted by Yosuga No Sora and Kodomo no Jikan, not that all otaku like them.

Connor Rivera
Connor Rivera

A man on the street would be disgusted by two guys kissing.

Nolan Turner
Nolan Turner

he actually consumes American media
No one gives a shit about PC outside of like 8 western countries, and even that is ending as we speak. Asian countries are the most nationalistic in the planet regardless, and Japan is one of the most nationalistic Asian countries.

Wyatt Morris
Wyatt Morris

Yes. And?

Isaac Evans
Isaac Evans

Political correctness and what disgusts people are two different things.

Joseph Ross
Joseph Ross

I wonder where people got the idea political correctness is taking over the media. Half of the stuff on TV nowadays would have caused a huge shitstorm in the 60s.
GTA V came out less than three years ago, and the GTA franchise in general is one of the best selling in the industry. No one gave a shit when the usual complaints about it came around.

Carson Hall
Carson Hall

It already did. When was the last time anime had real violence? People's reactions to Higurashi pretty much ruined it.

Nathan Ortiz
Nathan Ortiz

It's not anymore than it was then. It's just that since the topic itself is so prevalent these days, anything regarding diversity will have both left and right wingers calling it out as either forced diversity or glorified pushing of an agenda. It's true that 3rd/4th wave feminists and "numales" exist, but it's because they're the most outspoken that it seems like political correctness is taking over.

That being said however, since the aforementioned political correctness activists are most outspoken on social media, a lot of today's youth seems to be being converted to that mindset, which may really affect things a few more years down the line.

Jackson Hughes
Jackson Hughes

The two things are not unrelated. And even so, if we're talking about incest and lolis, they're definetely not seen positively by the average Japanese.

Christopher Richardson
Christopher Richardson

when enough parents complain

Owen Reyes
Owen Reyes

But what kind of political correctness are we talking about here? What exactly is at risk of being censored? I honestly don't see it coming.
Definitely not for books at least.

Caleb Wright
Caleb Wright

if we're talking about incest and lolis,
Faux incest, as I told you above.
The Japanese see nothing wrong with relationships between cousins.

And lolis are just girls until you decide to sexualize them.

Elijah Ramirez
Elijah Ramirez

That guy at the whiteboard was fucking gold.

Christopher Gutierrez
Christopher Gutierrez

moving the goalpost
Of course I was talking about sexualized lolis.
And with incest I mean real incest, not NBR or cousins. There are at least three big examples of anime with real incest: Koi Kaze, Yosuga No Sora and Oreimo.

By the way relationships between cousins are not so uncommon in the world.

Ayden Edwards
Ayden Edwards

Koi Kaze, Yosuga No Sora and Oreimo.
And which one of those three made light of it and allowed the couple to elope without trouble?

Blake Reyes
Blake Reyes

I'd say the biggest thing would be humor? Maybe attractive women as well, but I can't see that fight going anywhere after a couple more years. Sexuality is way too ingrained and appreciated as a whole for a small group of American feminists to destroy it completely.

Connor Garcia
Connor Garcia

Of course I was talking about sexualized lolis.
Yeah, YOU sexualized them. They are just being innocent little girls that are dealing with their first budding feelings of love.

Jaxson Hall
Jaxson Hall

nope, anime is still politically incorrect and it will always be.

Caleb Miller
Caleb Miller

But that's the point...? If incest was acceptable in Japan they would have been quite different. Koi Kaze in particular wouldn't even exist, since it's all about the taboo surrounding the MC's feelings.

Levi Russell
Levi Russell

But that's the point...?
Yes, it's my point. Anime doesn't carelessly go beyond the line of what is politically correct.

Jack Gomez
Jack Gomez

Does anime nurture autism?

Ayden Gonzalez
Ayden Gonzalez

That guy's gotta be a fucking substitute. They absolutely couldn't accept this sort of mentally ill weeb as an actual teacher

Ayden Hill
Ayden Hill

Living the dream.

Caleb Scott
Caleb Scott

Did you forgot censored japan games, user? That's because western market and western standards became a important thing for japan videogame industry

Oliver Rogers
Oliver Rogers

guy
it's a girl
a guy would have been locked up over this.

Bentley Rodriguez
Bentley Rodriguez

Isn't that mostly the case of the Western guys censoring the Japanese games in localization? SF and DOA are the only ones I can think of recently that had Japan directly influenced by it.

Isaac Lewis
Isaac Lewis

But it did. It's clear as day that both Oreimo and YnS were made to pander Japanese incestfags (Koi Kaze is different in that it goes beyond pandering and tries to tell a realistic story), but removing the societal pressure altogether would have been too unrealistic even for those series. Hell, even in H-manga they sometimes say stuff like "we can't, we're siblings".

Game of Thrones showed two blood related twins having sex on screen, surely that isn't politically correct in the West. But it did it anyway (just to clarify, I'm not arguing the West is falling victim to political correctness).

Jonathan Bell
Jonathan Bell

Yeah, but that is not because of political correctness, they just try to remove things that may make the game unsuitable for children (who 9 times out of 10 are neither the target nor the actual audience) or because they could be perceived as weird (like the headpatting in FE: Fates). Basically, it's all for the money.

Michael Richardson
Michael Richardson

Sorry, you win.
I was just fucking with you (after somebody else started this stupid claim that TV shows weren't politically incorrect).
The whole fetishization of the "onii.chan" is sufficient evidence for the political incorrectness.

Camden Ortiz
Camden Ortiz

I wonder where people got the idea political correctness is taking over the media

Elijah Kelly
Elijah Kelly

That's not political correctness, that's pushing an agenda.
And cherrypicking.

Wyatt Bell
Wyatt Bell

Not anytime soon; not even after the 2020 Olympics.

Jason Smith
Jason Smith

All versions of Smash 4 (not just the English version) purged the Tharja trophies.

That's actually hurting Marvel.

They'll break from it soon.

Jacob Hall
Jacob Hall

No, because Japan is unable to give a single fuck.
books, movies, comics and video games
All of those are made in the west too. Anime and manga aren't.

Hunter Anderson
Hunter Anderson

they censored the headpatting

Charles Baker
Charles Baker

as long as Otaku are the people keeping anime afloat Otaku are the ones who will be pandered too

John Gutierrez
John Gutierrez

Japan doesn't give a fuck
Olympics will kill Japan of it's degeneracy.

Levi Nelson
Levi Nelson

Oh shit, actual common sense in 2016?

Camden Howard
Camden Howard

Why can't my country be this based?

Jaxon Thomas
Jaxon Thomas

Which county is even this based anymore? Don't you get in trouble in about every other country for that?

Hudson Lewis
Hudson Lewis

Take back anything and everything bad I've ever said about glorious Nippon and its people.
GOMENAZAI

Daniel Wood
Daniel Wood

cultural marxism
marx was very well known for his cultural commentary :^)

Jeremiah Harris
Jeremiah Harris

country censors reproductive parts
muh spooky leftists

Aaron Bell
Aaron Bell

Yes. Did you miss all the shitstorm surrounding the Fates transl--- ops, localization?

Ryan Cook
Ryan Cook

/pol/

WACHOWSKI SISTERS

RIP IN PEPPERONI SCALIA

#LOVEWINS

Jayden Martin
Jayden Martin

They did it out of the desire to be more Victorian, so an extreme right measure. Why it hasn't been changed back is beyond me, I guess no politician wants to lose his career over promoting porn.

Alexander Long
Alexander Long

When will the hero we need rise to do what must be done?

Lucas Turner
Lucas Turner

When will the people rise to push the faggot politicians to do what must be done?

Cooper Long
Cooper Long

RIP IN PEPPERONI SCALIA
damn you, I shouldn't be laughing so hard at this

Hunter Rivera
Hunter Rivera

They just need some meme politician who won't care about the subsequent shame. I'm surprised there hasn't been one yet.

Jaxon Gonzalez
Jaxon Gonzalez

Men sign it
Muhogyny!

Yea no.

Isaiah Anderson
Isaiah Anderson

political correctness in the US is the same as political correctness everywhere else

Why do Americans think every country is like theirs?

Juan Anderson
Juan Anderson

A certain Torampu-san?

Easton Baker
Easton Baker

it hasn't conquered books
Do you think anyone pro censorship actually reads?

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