How many anime production cels do you own

Adrian Green
Adrian Green

How many anime production cels do you own

Post production cels

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sFCZhVOQUw
http://www.animecornerstore.com/neongenev.html
http://www.tested.com/art/movies/442545-2d-animation-digital-era-interview-japanese-director-makoto-shinkai/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cel
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B82sF7zOweNrTHUxZndKMFc1QjA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHO84rOp8FQ
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asuka-Langley-Sohryu-Evangelion-original-Production-anime-cel-RARE-/121940456649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asuka-Langley-Sohryu-Evangelion-original-Production-anime-cel-RARE-/162060672490?hash=item25bb919dea
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Anime-Ranma-1-2-Original-Animator-Sketch-not-Cel-by-Atsuko-Nakajima-5-/400792960429?hash=item5d511f3dad:g:-9gAAOSwDN1URweZ
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOBILE-FIGHTER-G-GUNDAM-DOMON-KASSHU-ANIME-PRODUCTION-CEL-10-/162041277859?hash=item25ba69ada3:g:j2wAAOSwiYFXE7fp
http://kyoanishop.com/shop/shopdetail.html?brandcode=000000000543&search=%B6%C1%A4%B1&sort=
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=&_osacat=1345&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1311.R1.TR3.TRC2.A0.H0.Xlegend+of+galac.TRS0&_nkw=legend+of+galactic+heroes&_sacat=1345
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=&_osacat=1345&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1311.R1.TR3.TRC2.A0.H0.Xlegend+of+galac.TRS0&_nkw=legend+of+galactic+heroes&_sacat=1345
http://www.ebay.com/itm/INUYASHA-SANGO-RUMIKO-TAKAHASHI-ANIME-PRODUCTION-CEL-/400996239688?hash=item5d5d3d0948:g:iNcAAOSwVL1V-Zy9
http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=urbantreasurehunterjapan&_armrs=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xevangelion.TRS0&_nkw=evangelion&_sacat=0
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asuka-Langley-Sohryu-Evangelion-anime-cel-Repro-Hand-painted-/121835899303?nma=true&si=gXYcQGcHzwagbH0k24O6i09dJrQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zXv2gqclx4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80wYWBbvHvQ
Cooper Turner
Cooper Turner

how much did that run you?

Eli Campbell
Eli Campbell

it's not mine

Benjamin Baker
Benjamin Baker

Is Ebay and Y!JA the best place to find them?

Aaron Lee
Aaron Lee

the crisp and clear acrylic paint

Isaac Kelly
Isaac Kelly

pretty sure on ebay

but im not sure how much they go

Dylan Peterson
Dylan Peterson

Holy shit! JoJo still use cell animation or this is just a fake ?

Austin Morgan
Austin Morgan

the OVA did

Aiden Rivera
Aiden Rivera

Ah. You lucky faggot. That's a good one.

I own a fuckzillion other cels from the OVA.

Noah Martinez
Noah Martinez

post'em please?

David Perez
David Perez

One moment

Elijah Nelson
Elijah Nelson

1/?

Jack Clark
Jack Clark

Megazone 23 Part II

Adrian Cruz
Adrian Cruz

Armor Hunter Mellowlink

Benjamin Rogers
Benjamin Rogers

2/?

Asher Jackson
Asher Jackson

3/?

Kayden Jenkins
Kayden Jenkins

4/4

That's all of em'

Jaxon King
Jaxon King

Forgot image. Hurrr.

Levi Watson
Levi Watson

thank you for dumping

how much did they run you

Jose Bailey
Jose Bailey

in total
about 10k

Matthew Ortiz
Matthew Ortiz

Thank to Shirobako i know about cell animation and why anime color from 90s,80s feel really different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sFCZhVOQUw

Carson Smith
Carson Smith

This boy ain't me. Why you gonna act like me, bruh?

Not as much as you'd think. $500 at the MOST. And that's a generous overestimation.

Joseph Adams
Joseph Adams

The Ghibli ones are damned expensive.

Oliver Hughes
Oliver Hughes

New scanner, it keeps cropping tightly to the image, but they are full cels.

Justin Williams
Justin Williams

To be honest I've never considered owning one but I really want an Eva one now.

Aaron Flores
Aaron Flores

Doubt you'll find one easily. Bought my Asuka over 10 years ago.

Noah Jenkins
Noah Jenkins

Is my memory failing or Eva's cells out there are actually reproductions?
I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that the original one (surprisingly) heve never being sold, but then again it could be one of the countless Internet's unsourced facts about Eva.

Cameron Walker
Cameron Walker

There are lots of reproductions, "celuclub" or something like that, but they are the same few designs. Supposedly original cels were never sold, but there was quite a thriving market for them years ago on yahoo.jp. Of course if you found two the same that would be a dead giveaway.

Landon Mitchell
Landon Mitchell

Eva cels and the celluclub ones:

http://www.animecornerstore.com/neongenev.html

Noah Rivera
Noah Rivera

I'll be honest user, I'm fucking jealous.

Cooper Richardson
Cooper Richardson

YFW

James Moore
James Moore

I don't have cels but I pretty much owned this and Shirobako genga collection.

Mason Howard
Mason Howard

Holy shit, man.

How much did you spend? These seems to be original.

Kayden Reyes
Kayden Reyes

That's pretty cute.

John Robinson
John Robinson

I honestly can't remember, it was years ago.

Azumanga, anyone?

Levi Davis
Levi Davis

more please

Blake Long
Blake Long

That's the only Azumanga one I have. Tried to get cels but never saw any, had they gone to digital paint by then? Not really sure.

Kayden Price
Kayden Price

rip thread

John Cooper
John Cooper

Besides a bunch of artbooks I own, I have a setting/reference book for Kill la Kill, Imaishi and Yoshinari drew on it. That's about it, if that even counts.

Benjamin Reed
Benjamin Reed

post it please?

Cameron Fisher
Cameron Fisher

Left page, L to R: Imaishi Hiroyuki with the Mako drawing, and Yoshinari Yo with Akko

Right page, clockwise from top left: Sushi, Aoi Eir, Kazuki Nakashima, Yosuke Toba

I also have one of huke's doujin artbooks. Met him and he signed the front cover

Luke Howard
Luke Howard

Imaishi pls lrn to draw

Oliver Roberts
Oliver Roberts

I need to get a bunch of these. My uncle has a shit ton of looney toons ones and they are fucking rare.

Asher Cooper
Asher Cooper

Imaishi > Yoshinari IMO

Grayson Campbell
Grayson Campbell

expect joke/shitposting thread
it's real
this thread should be archived

Wyatt Brooks
Wyatt Brooks

how much was that?

Ayden Reyes
Ayden Reyes

I'm mad jelly right now

John Gomez
John Gomez

Explain

Cameron Green
Cameron Green

I just find it odd that cels would be available to buy at all. How does it even happen?

Also archive just because you don't see a thread with cel scans everyday I guess?

Benjamin Morales
Benjamin Morales

All the good Sailor Moon cels on both ebay and yahoo auctions are insanely expensive.

Lucas Williams
Lucas Williams

Aren't all threads archived, then eventually deleted?

Camden Parker
Camden Parker

Holy fuck original pokemon cel is fucking expensive.

Wyatt Stewart
Wyatt Stewart

I have seen Yahoo auctions full of these, are they legit? I would be pretty bummed out paying $100 for something faked or mass produced.

Jace Allen
Jace Allen

Evangelion cels are around $400-$600.

Cameron Sanchez
Cameron Sanchez

QUALITY hands
Sasuga master.

Jose Diaz
Jose Diaz

Maybe this question is stupid but: cels are the frames used to make the anime aren't they? if so there must be a buttload for each show. if they run in the 100s each for a show like eva how much is the show worth with the cels alone?

Christian Foster
Christian Foster

post the huke one

Joshua Anderson
Joshua Anderson

Studios make it available for the public to buy. Studio gives cells to staff and they sell it.

Connor James
Connor James

If you are going to post on Sup Forums you should at least know how anime is made. And yes.

Dylan Sanders
Dylan Sanders

Shitposting is all fun and games until Sup Forums convinces me to spend $1800 on a fucking picture of the Major.

Ian Morris
Ian Morris

How can one bid on yahoo Japan auctions? Don't you need a Japanese address?

What's the best way to display cels? Frame them?

Hunter Howard
Hunter Howard

Every Yahoo Auctions seller is a shill-bidding faggot so don't expect to get a deal ever.

Brody Williams
Brody Williams

>>141329788
too orange

Evan Bailey
Evan Bailey

S-sorry I posted in the wrong thread. I have multiple tabs open.

Benjamin Martin
Benjamin Martin

no problem, still too orange though.

Jackson King
Jackson King

I have old war photos that I brought to hobby lobby and they frameed them and put them in a sealed glass container and the glass prevents sun damage and moisture and a bunch of other things.

Carter Wright
Carter Wright

You should add UV and IR filters for the Glass as they can damage the cell.

Easton Jones
Easton Jones

I bought my mom a cell of Storm from the old X-Men cartoon at a con once, but I didn't know anime did the same thing. Where do you guys get them? Do all shows do it or is it just luck of the draw on whether a show you like sells cells?

Easton Gutierrez
Easton Gutierrez

It's how they used to animate cartoons

Ryan Watson
Ryan Watson

Funny as to how (ed, edd & eddy) was the last CN show to use cells.

Josiah Powell
Josiah Powell

It's called cel not cell.

Jeremiah Gonzalez
Jeremiah Gonzalez

I miss when individual threads were archived.

Nathan Green
Nathan Green

kill yourself retard

Cameron Collins
Cameron Collins

Cel, Lesson learned.

Jackson Mitchell
Jackson Mitchell

Yes nigger, we all know how that shit works, stop posting like you are trying to teach something.
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Mason Sanchez
Mason Sanchez

Are you a time traveler or something?

Josiah Peterson
Josiah Peterson

please explain

Liam Morales
Liam Morales

I know that's how they used to animate, I meant do all shows that use them sell them or what?

Forgive my ignorance.

Grayson Mitchell
Grayson Mitchell

Hey OP, that's pretty nice.
How do I not get scammed by buying one on the fucking internet? How can you tell or not whether a cell is original or not?

Christian Walker
Christian Walker

It all depends on whether or not the studio wanted to sell them in the first place.

Alexander Turner
Alexander Turner

Do you have any idea how many cels get made for one episode of a TV show? They don't have the room for all that shit. They either put the important/iconic ones on display somewhere, destroy them, or some staff members gather them up and just sell them. Even Disney does it.

Anthony Stewart
Anthony Stewart

feels shit
By investing on Canvas Networks

Adrian Foster
Adrian Foster

ITT: I don't need it. I don't need it. I don't need it.

Jeremiah Roberts
Jeremiah Roberts

You can usually tell it's real if it's not in pristine condition and isn't cropped in like a traced screencap from the actual show would be. Like

Shows animated by Toei in particular used ink that yellowed with age, so ones like are obvious to tell apart.

Blake Brown
Blake Brown

I don't need it, but if I don't get it it will never appear again and I will forever regret not buying it

Dominic Garcia
Dominic Garcia

Man that on user wasn't lying about Ghibli cels being expensive.

John Long
John Long

$1800 is a lot of money user. Especially when I don't know for sure the actual worth of something like this.

Angel Morales
Angel Morales

I'll buy it. Link it

Jacob Wood
Jacob Wood

Got this as a secret santa gift one year

Dylan Nguyen
Dylan Nguyen

God I wish there was some computer technique to more closely emulate cel shading, modern anime really looks plasticy. Kabaneri is doing it pretty well but still.

Liam Parker
Liam Parker

Just search for Ghost in the Shell cel on ebay.

Kayden Long
Kayden Long

What do I need to search for in japanese to find these?

Tyler Martin
Tyler Martin

Damn son, this looks great. I'm kinda glad I haven't seen this for sale because I would drop like $400-$500 for this.

Lucas Cruz
Lucas Cruz

That one show Tomino did just recently emulated it nicely.

Liam Brown
Liam Brown

Gundam reconquista? Yeah, how did they do that?

Dominic Thomas
Dominic Thomas

I can hear the DIC

Ryan Torres
Ryan Torres

Very carefully

Connor Peterson
Connor Peterson

I know who's sucking the DiC!

Jason Martin
Jason Martin

Kabaneri
Looks plastic as fuck, 3 tone shading makes everything look greasy.

Benjamin Peterson
Benjamin Peterson

When done right it can look gorgeous.

Chase Bailey
Chase Bailey

It can be drawn digitally to exact cel shading and look exactly the same. But it's not done because that is seen as old animation in nipland. A wandering autistic tripfag can clue you in in exact detail to what I mean and Sup Forums is not short of them.

Adrian Flores
Adrian Flores

I used to own Rei smiling, but I sold it for like ten bucks.

Lucas Peterson
Lucas Peterson

It was probably a reproduction cel, not a huge loss.

William Jones
William Jones

Do settei count?

Samuel Cooper
Samuel Cooper

I'll never get collecting cels but I don't judge you for it because it's good to have a nice collection-hobby. I personally collect flags.

Ryder Myers
Ryder Myers

cels are the frames used to make the anime aren't they?

Yes, back then. Now traditional animation frames are drawn and colored using art tablets like wacom cintiq so no need for cel screens. The genga or sketches like are sometimes done with pencils like and then scanned to do the lineart and coloring.

This is true for all traditional animation worldwide, not only anime.

Jack Turner
Jack Turner

Most of what I own. Still debating whether or not I should sell my soul and become an animator.

Jordan Brown
Jordan Brown

I'll never get collecting cels
It's nice to have something that's a real piece of what you love, not just a reproduction or merchandise. Sort of the difference between collecting guns and collecting guns that saw combat. Also they make nice decoration, you can have 1 poster or 20 cels on your wall, and because they have simple designs they aren't flashy or tacky like other anime merch you can get.

I personally collect flags.
I certainly hope you don't mean Sup Forums flag icons.

Eli Reed
Eli Reed

Have fun either moving to Japan and living in sweatshop conditions for years before they let you do key animation, or becoming a slave to calarts and drawing the occasional spongebob or steven universe frame once a year.

Adam Evans
Adam Evans

something with the way they layered their images?
I'm not too sure but I remember learning about something tomino had them do with the lines

Joshua Kelly
Joshua Kelly

Exactly well looks like im just gonna open my own studio and bring over the cheap Japanese animators to America.

Samuel Ramirez
Samuel Ramirez

Plus a grain filter over everything

Andrew Cooper
Andrew Cooper

the computer literally works the same as painting in cels. In fact it's better and faster because you can abuse the paintbucket.

The fact that anime nowadays use less shading tones and highlights it's just that times change, even though it could be done easily. Clean drawings have become more popular.

Lately I see a trend of making soft shaded anime like Prision School and Apollon, and gradients like Dagashi Kashi.

Luke Phillips
Luke Phillips

Every now and then I want to pick up cels of the childhood boner monsters from Sailor Moon, but stuff from specific episodes is hard to find these days. 90% of the cel sites on the old web listings are all dead. Everybody's on Rubberslug now and that's about it.

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Aaron Taylor
Aaron Taylor

Can you draw? Do you have money?

William Wilson
William Wilson

Have money. Know alot about chinese cartoon production and cost but I wouldn't want to open it without first being able to fucking animate. I cant self learn not disciplined enough so I'll have to go to school. Fuck CAL I'll just pull a Fraser and go to Tokyo the rich white weeb.

Angel Moore
Angel Moore

Do you know how to thrive in this Capitalist world?

Nathaniel Wright
Nathaniel Wright

The plan would be to shill hard on Sup Forums then open the Kickstarter once that's underway ill rub my hands real hard a pray to Jewish god. By then 3D will have taken over and the old fag animators will join my empire. After that I sign a deal with whoever is the biggest online entertainment service at the time.

Jeremiah Bell
Jeremiah Bell

http://www.tested.com/art/movies/442545-2d-animation-digital-era-interview-japanese-director-makoto-shinkai/

Interesting article I stumbled across a few days ago. This thread reminded me of it.

James Hall
James Hall

Posting Hibikek genga reprint that I bought from Kyoanus.

Jackson Brown
Jackson Brown

I am so jealous of these

Parker Butler
Parker Butler

You could find them in KyoAni shop in Kyoto if they still have them in stock.

Cameron Howard
Cameron Howard

b-but can you animate a character, user?

Jeremiah Martinez
Jeremiah Martinez

Just develop a way to get passive income and animate for yourself. Don't make a a career out of it. I regret it.

Zachary Turner
Zachary Turner

DAMN

Carson Jackson
Carson Jackson

I own just one. But it's still pretty good.

Samuel Howard
Samuel Howard

worst doturd plushie

Matthew Allen
Matthew Allen

Lina is pro fag.

Isaac Bailey
Isaac Bailey

shill hard on Sup Forums
Kickstarter
Good luck, friend.

Jonathan Torres
Jonathan Torres

Not mine, but damn if I wouldn't want to have one

Owen Price
Owen Price

Can somebody lend me $500 CAD?

Justin Bailey
Justin Bailey

I wonder which set is this from.

Ryan Jones
Ryan Jones

If I ever bought a cel I think it would be a Cowboy Bebop one. It would be cool to own.

Elijah Carter
Elijah Carter

bump

Dylan White
Dylan White

Just one.

Asher Nguyen
Asher Nguyen

I HAD EYES ON IT FIRST, FAGGOTS

Ayden Wilson
Ayden Wilson

I always find it weird that paint could make these kind of things. I guess years of what I think paint should look like screwed with my mind.

Ethan Phillips
Ethan Phillips

Actually tempted on buying. Somebody else do it before I do.

Benjamin Murphy
Benjamin Murphy

Next frame, B35, is currently up for $600 on ebay.

Lincoln Foster
Lincoln Foster

go to Ebay
a million CCS cels
all over $40 each

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Ryan Cooper
Ryan Cooper

Own?
Three.

Owned(destroyed)?
It's in the hundreds, I've lost count.

Nathan Smith
Nathan Smith

But user, that's not a production cel, that's a Perfect Cel

Ryan Harris
Ryan Harris

cels
I don't know what it is.
Why buying this? Print a pic with some filters and it's the same

Alexander Gonzalez
Alexander Gonzalez

ESL pls go and stay go

Brody Myers
Brody Myers

esl
who?

William Bailey
William Bailey

haha, at least try to hide your jealousy when posting, lol!

Jason Martinez
Jason Martinez

jealous of a picture
ok

Jackson Long
Jackson Long

You don't get it, so just don't worry about it.

Austin King
Austin King

You fucking spic

Nathaniel Morgan
Nathaniel Morgan

kabaneri? I don't understand

Brody Butler
Brody Butler

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cel
Basically they're a part of the creation process of the show

David Johnson
David Johnson

How fragile are these? Hard to conserve?

Samuel Campbell
Samuel Campbell

That's why they look so nice, I thought it was filters. My bad then.

Justin Wright
Justin Wright

The colour ones are paint/ink

Nathan White
Nathan White

They are actual cels from famous anime, which will pretty much get you pussy on tap whenever you mention it to any bitches, and that is why you're jealous, kid.

Nolan Lopez
Nolan Lopez

any idea
For a decent show, without too many stills, about 15 000 including tweenies and OP/ED, which is a few boxes of cels. Even though this actually isn't enough for quite fluent motion budget restrictions mean that often cels are used repeatedly / creatively and stills are employed, reducing the number to maybe 5000 or so. A really high budget show might employ many, many more though.
A few boxes every episode... well, they might keep a few recent shows in storage for remastering, but realistically most cels will be sold or trashed.

James Russell
James Russell

I thought it was filters
The fuck does that mean? Are you genuinely, literally retarded? If so, sorry I called you a spic earlier.

Gabriel Jones
Gabriel Jones

The fuck does that mean?
Like you take a picture, add some photofilters and print it and it looks cool.
Are you genuinely, literally retarded?
A bit.
I guess that's why I ended up here

Christopher Harris
Christopher Harris

I painted cels for a tv show back in the 90's and let me tel you it is a pain in the ass, still felt bretty good when I got to see the cels I painted on screen for about 2 seconds though.

David Martin
David Martin

What show did you work on, user?

Christopher Rodriguez
Christopher Rodriguez

I want this. Does that count? It was animated by a Japanese team

Easton Wright
Easton Wright

Animation in a nutshell

Ethan Russell
Ethan Russell

Eh.... rotoscoped grandfathered kid fucking cells. Traced from real video that's now against the rules. Maybe I'll post them in /h/ one day. I'm still a bit in the air on whether it breaks the rules if it's drawn but based directly on real video.

Isaiah Hall
Isaiah Hall

That second horn looks like one of those mind controlling zombie fungi.

Ayden Sanchez
Ayden Sanchez

Didn't understood shit but there ain't any rules.

Zachary Cox
Zachary Cox

Well you're a fucking retard. It's clearly an antenna. I bet she gets great reception.

Xavier Lopez
Xavier Lopez

I don't even understand what you just said.
Is this even English?
What the fuck?

Jordan Perez
Jordan Perez

Any idea of why do they color them this way?
I get the color pencil things when they're just a few lines, but these kind of quick coloring doesn't seem to be of any utility, I might be wrong though

Nathan King
Nathan King

He rotoscoped some cels.

And given that they are pornographic in nature, might post them on /h/ one day.

Jacob Nelson
Jacob Nelson

I hope you do post them.

Tyler Lopez
Tyler Lopez

Just this, I wanted to get one with GNR but they were unavailable/prohibitively expensive

Jose Bennett
Jose Bennett

does that face represent how you felt when you bought that cel?

Joshua Stewart
Joshua Stewart

Yeah I guess that's a pretty good way to look at it

Hunter Hughes
Hunter Hughes

I remembered that I'd saved all of my old auction win emails. I paid around $110 for the pair back in 2004, and that was including shipping from Japan. The first one would probably only around $200 now because the figure is relatively small, but the full face one should be at least $600.

Evan Long
Evan Long

No. The cells were drawn from live video kiddie porn. Rotoscoped sketched. It was from a Russian kiddie nomad rape flick in the 90s. Unfortunately the cdr I had of it got too old and couldn't copy.

Back up your cds people!

Angel Thompson
Angel Thompson

How do guys know it´s genuine article? I mean is it not easy to fake/copy it?

Brayden Brown
Brayden Brown

Why would you rotoscope something like that?

Jeremiah Phillips
Jeremiah Phillips

Not me! It was done by some underground russian animators back in the 90s. I don't know much about them really but it's got to be a part of animation history.

Daniel Fisher
Daniel Fisher

bootleg rotoscoped russian child porn animation
that is probably one of the most niche things i've ever heard of

where the shit do you even buy something like that

actually i dont want to know

Bentley Gray
Bentley Gray

I have cels from JJBA OVA and The Dog of Flanders movie. I was surprised how cheap the cel was for the latter because it's a really nice close up of Pastrache.

Samuel Hernandez
Samuel Hernandez

Do you have the cel of Vanilla Thrice poking his head out of the hole in the ground

Juan Sanchez
Juan Sanchez

Do newer shows not have cels?

Kayden Morris
Kayden Morris

Those colors are used to indicate where the shiage/colorist/cleanup should fill in the shades and light source.

James Turner
James Turner

exactly one

Zachary Cooper
Zachary Cooper

I like it!
I don't know how it works, do you have both, coloured, and lined?

Nope. Digital animation, mate.

Parker Bailey
Parker Bailey

Yes, bought straight from japan.

Michael Torres
Michael Torres

I love the precision these lines were drawn, you dont see any corrections, just look at the eye lashes, each of these is unique and pure art.

Juan Foster
Juan Foster

Price: US $895.00
Life is suffering

Henry Nguyen
Henry Nguyen

for the glory

Jayden Collins
Jayden Collins

for who

Oliver Gomez
Oliver Gomez

I got it in a trade at comic shop in 2001. He was going out of business and we were quasi friends. I remember watching the vcd that went along with it way back in the day. I really need to find a way to get that cd copied to disk.

If I ever take it to Chesapeake collectable or antiques roadshow, I'm sure it would be way more valuable together than separate.

I'm sure it's gotta be some historical thing in underground animation back in the day.

Brandon Cruz
Brandon Cruz

You're delusional

You'd be arrested if you tried to sell it

Matthew Baker
Matthew Baker

Keep this thread going until I get home and I'll show you some I feel comfortable posting.

Wyatt Campbell
Wyatt Campbell

No I wouldn't. It's drawn. By hand.

The fact it was sketched and crudely colored and shaded from video doesnt mean anything.

Ryan Turner
Ryan Turner

Posting more hibikek layout reprints

Matthew Brooks
Matthew Brooks

In some jurisdictions, if it was "traced" then that counts as the real thing. The real bummer with this is that the law enforcement authorities have the largest collection in the world, so you may not think it's traced by they might well say it is.

Xavier Smith
Xavier Smith

No, I have one of D'Arby shuffling his card deck.

One of the last shows that did was Higurashi IIRC

Jonathan Harris
Jonathan Harris

Rule of thumb, the cels that have a character with their eyes open are worth more than one where their eyes are shut.

Grayson Perry
Grayson Perry

no fucking shit

Lucas Taylor
Lucas Taylor

There are a lot of retards in the thread.

Oliver Sanchez
Oliver Sanchez

Maybe some day. I'm still not at a stage were I feel comfortable spending mad dosh on a handful of cels or genga. When I get enough disposable income I might hunt and frame some favorites. So far just production note/concept/art work/groundwork artbooks and the figure collection.

John Campbell
John Campbell

So do you guys frame this shit?

Brayden Jones
Brayden Jones

I'd seriously consider buying that if I could prove it was real.

Carter Carter
Carter Carter

Is it possible to regather all the evangelion cells and reshoot the series?

Noah Sanchez
Noah Sanchez

in the same way its possible to collect the 7 dragonballs, I guess.

The better option would just be to write a program to chop episode files into images frame by frame, then printing those out, I guess.

Juan Hughes
Juan Hughes

Digital animation
You mean digitally colored. Most of the time they still animate on papers, only then they outline, color and refine the frames using animation software.

Jaxson Ramirez
Jaxson Ramirez

The better option would just be to write a program to chop episode files into images frame by frame
just use video to image converter, user. It works most of the time.

Jack Hill
Jack Hill

According to RX they might start using HDR in the new BD transfers for stuff.

Oliver Foster
Oliver Foster

video to image convert
waifu2x every frame
clean each frame's colors to vector quality
string them together at 24fps and digitally regrain them
4K Eva

Wyatt Peterson
Wyatt Peterson

Still bummed about that flooded episode, huh?

Eli Nelson
Eli Nelson

This is douga, user..

Carson Russell
Carson Russell

This is a sample of an anime OP.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B82sF7zOweNrTHUxZndKMFc1QjA

Blake Russell
Blake Russell

how does these things work?

Samuel Martinez
Samuel Martinez

What's wrong with douga?

Liam Harris
Liam Harris

Surprise.rar
Seems legit.

Brody Young
Brody Young

I changed the title to avoid infringement, user.
It's a Digimon OP.

Ian Rivera
Ian Rivera

Get the fuck off Sup Forums.

Dylan Parker
Dylan Parker

Can't help but think you are being a little too harsh there, cels are from a bygone age.

Oliver Martinez
Oliver Martinez

all these unframed cels and dougas

Literal cancer.

Dylan Morgan
Dylan Morgan

that's cel? the colors and all looks digital as fuck

Nathaniel Turner
Nathaniel Turner

I hope you are just pretending to be retarded.

Luke Nelson
Luke Nelson

Sorry.

Samuel Miller
Samuel Miller

Then the blu ray remaster looked blurry as fuck compared to this picture

Gabriel Brooks
Gabriel Brooks

Because they used the old masters I guess, they didn't rescan the cels and all. I wonder how would look an old anime with cels rescanned with digital method. Probably a bit like the pictures posted here.

Nolan Price
Nolan Price

collecting cels
not autographs
I'd post mine but it's at home.

Eli Morris
Eli Morris

its a gooks trying to sell me something thread.

Until the currency exchange rate recovers i aint buying shit.

Jace Edwards
Jace Edwards

Only one, but it's from my favorite anime.

Noah Hughes
Noah Hughes

From this scene.

Samuel Diaz
Samuel Diaz

what's wrong with collecting Cels

Mason Hughes
Mason Hughes

some of us like to collect cels for its art value, not autographs.

Carter Brown
Carter Brown

Are there any shows that reuse cels a shitton? Not animation, but just the cel.

Evan Ross
Evan Ross

Great taste, user!

Tyler White
Tyler White

You can but sunlight can damage cels so the glass should protect against uv rays

Oliver Wright
Oliver Wright

Can't stand looking at people saving thumbnails

Carter Johnson
Carter Johnson

Was EMS raised because of the currency drop?

Carson Hughes
Carson Hughes

Thanks!

Sebastian Hernandez
Sebastian Hernandez

I doubt there exists a collection of all cels used from a show anywhere

Parker Sanchez
Parker Sanchez

Breh

Ryder Scott
Ryder Scott

Damn, she's gorgeous

Ian Jenkins
Ian Jenkins

Can anyone tell me why they draw it on paper and color/outline it digitally nowadays? It feels like you could have just drawn it digitally to begin with. Is it easier to organize with all the papers or something?

Dylan Russell
Dylan Russell

It's just easier to draw on paper and to be precise. But there are most and most people drawing digitally too. Bahi JD draws digitally.

Landon Wright
Landon Wright

Computers are also increasingly used for tweening and compositing, which accounts for much of the increase of technical quality these days. (Whether artistic quality has increased is a matter of opinion. I really love 80s character designs.)

Brayden Nelson
Brayden Nelson

fuck me nigga i've seen thepricing, how much is that one going for?

Jackson White
Jackson White

Good thread, thanks Sup Forums

Sebastian Hill
Sebastian Hill

Of course.

Jeremiah Green
Jeremiah Green

Does anime use tweening now? I thought all the between frames were drawn.

Parker Clark
Parker Clark

It's about precision and feel, I guess. Both have different kind of 達成感 depending on animators.
Computer are still use for refining outlines and in-betweens and for compositing.

Grayson Mitchell
Grayson Mitchell

tweening is an old terms for in-between, user. That's before flash even existed.

Ryan Phillips
Ryan Phillips

They are. I don't know what he's talking about, except maybe he talks about when a single drawing "slides" on the screen.

Or maybe Ping Pong and the likes use tweening I'm not sure, since they are on Flash.

Noah Garcia
Noah Garcia

Well yeah, but in this case he meant the computer doing the inbetween work rather than being drawn by hand. As far as I was aware other than a few series like ping pong most inbetweens were drawn by hand.

Joseph Howard
Joseph Howard

There are companies that are using computers to do in-betweens. You can totally find any animation wares besides flash to draw in-betweens with graphic tablets. You can even use ToonBoom for that.

Cameron Miller
Cameron Miller

Is that bad?

James Robinson
James Robinson

Tweening is whatever method you use (by hand, computer, combination of both) to draw in-between frames.
If you're looking at a high-fps action scene, it's probably CG or computer-assisted tweening, since high-fps hand-drawn tweening is too costly and time-consuming to be practical in most cases.
To save costs animation by hand can be drawn at 2x, which means ‘repeat every frame’ or ‘run at half fps’. And that's half of 24, not half of sixty. Not everything is drawn at 2x, but this gives you an impression of how hard it is to get high framerates using hand-drawn animation.

Isaiah Parker
Isaiah Parker

No. Unless the animator become lazy and use motion tweening graph or puppet models.

Bentley Anderson
Bentley Anderson

Interesting. Do you know any examples of high fps actions scenes that are hand-drawn with no short cuts? I'm curious as to what it looks like.

Aiden Edwards
Aiden Edwards

Disney 2d movies usually goes up to 12-24fps.
Anime are usually done in 8-12 fps.

Jose Moore
Jose Moore

24fps scenes generally don't happen. Frame step through an action scene you like sometime and you'll see it's typically only a new image every other frame even for movies.

Ghibli films animate on ones sometimes. Akira and Redline have moments, too. If you want specific scenes from random sources no one will be able to help you, but the money shots from high budget shit can reach 24fps on occasion.

Leo Scott
Leo Scott

Neo Sup Forums knows absolutely nothing about cels it seems from reading the thread. However old Sup Forums is still good.

Adrian Harris
Adrian Harris

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHO84rOp8FQ

Joseph Clark
Joseph Clark

RIP THREAD

Gavin Richardson
Gavin Richardson

bump

Charles Sanders
Charles Sanders

I remember having cels as a kid, I wonder where did they end up. I'm sure someone threw them away.

Matthew Cook
Matthew Cook

Where do you guys buy these?

Liam Scott
Liam Scott

So how many times would I have to suck your dick to cop one of these off you?

Blake Cruz
Blake Cruz

BJ / ($400 or $600)

How much is a BJ?

Cooper Jenkins
Cooper Jenkins

($400 or $600) over BJ

BJ= ?

Dominic Long
Dominic Long

I dunno, I'll have to ask your mom what the current running price is.

Aiden Reyes
Aiden Reyes

My niggas
1/?

Joseph Robinson
Joseph Robinson

I'm a Reifag and even I want it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asuka-Langley-Sohryu-Evangelion-original-Production-anime-cel-RARE-/121940456649

Nicholas Rogers
Nicholas Rogers

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asuka-Langley-Sohryu-Evangelion-original-Production-anime-cel-RARE-/162060672490?hash=item25bb919dea
cute

Oliver Wright
Oliver Wright

Is there any way to authenticate these things? I'm seriously thinking about buying one for my birthday or something, but I don't want a fake.

David Russell
David Russell

And last one
Just started collecting

Jackson Evans
Jackson Evans

this

Jordan Brown
Jordan Brown

How do they remaster older anime if they sell the cels? Don't they need them all to make a BD release or something?

Dylan Brooks
Dylan Brooks

I
WANT
IT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Anime-Ranma-1-2-Original-Animator-Sketch-not-Cel-by-Atsuko-Nakajima-5-/400792960429?hash=item5d511f3dad:g:-9gAAOSwDN1URweZ

Angel Lopez
Angel Lopez

They have the original film

Christian Jenkins
Christian Jenkins

Damn, where do you buy these?

Xavier Perez
Xavier Perez

Goddamn I can hear the rage

Jordan Johnson
Jordan Johnson

They don't reanimate the entire damn show user, they take the film and scan it to a higher standard.

Nathan Rivera
Nathan Rivera

Kyoto

Kevin Cox
Kevin Cox

no Shampoo cels on ebay

Zachary Wood
Zachary Wood

all record of lodoss war cels I can find on the internet are either shit for hundreds of dollars

Robert Gonzalez
Robert Gonzalez

would kill for this, fuck what anyone says about the show being garbage

Robert Fisher
Robert Fisher

just go buy the groundwork or layout collection books. They are cheaper.

Ryan Harris
Ryan Harris

I could never believe it's real. There has to be a way though right?

Find one you like, post it here, and see if someone could authenticate it. I still wouldn't trust it though.

Jeremiah Moore
Jeremiah Moore

owning best girl
and i thought i was jealous of other people in this thread

Adrian Gray
Adrian Gray

Got it in Nakano for $40

Ryan Rivera
Ryan Rivera

Oh fuck. I'm jelly. Any more G Gundam?

Jaxson Clark
Jaxson Clark

Listed on ebay. Buy it, you know you want to.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOBILE-FIGHTER-G-GUNDAM-DOMON-KASSHU-ANIME-PRODUCTION-CEL-10-/162041277859?hash=item25ba69ada3:g:j2wAAOSwiYFXE7fp

Matthew Barnes
Matthew Barnes

$135
fuck

Dylan Murphy
Dylan Murphy

Such a great Misato.

Xavier Campbell
Xavier Campbell

anyone have any monogatari ones?

Sebastian Morales
Sebastian Morales

Are you really this stupid?

Evan Wright
Evan Wright

Just to be clear, each cell is one of a kind right?

How do you differentiate an original from a fake? Is it common for a copy to be sold as the real thing?

Christopher Evans
Christopher Evans

Maybe he means a sketch?

Jace Wilson
Jace Wilson

What is the most recent show to use and release cells? Anyone know?

Bentley Gonzalez
Bentley Gonzalez

>>141377121
They didn't use cel anymore. Those layouts posted here are drawn on papers (pegged papers to be exact) and are reprinted onto cardboards.
These are the one of the packs that contains layouts posted here.

http://kyoanishop.com/shop/shopdetail.html?brandcode=000000000543&search=%B6%C1%A4%B1&sort=

Kevin Price
Kevin Price

each cell is one of a kind right?
Yeah.
Is it common for a copy to be sold as the real thing?
Conmen exist everywhere user. Be wary of jews and convention salesmen.

Austin Wright
Austin Wright

What are the original keyframe drawings called and what is the japanese equivalent? I want to buy some if they still sell them on the KyoAni store

Just as I was about to post a corrected version, thanks user

Cameron Morgan
Cameron Morgan

Do you know if they ship internationally?

Evan Collins
Evan Collins

What are the original keyframe drawings called and what is the japanese equivalent?
genga 原画 or layouts

Xavier Hughes
Xavier Hughes

I don't know user. I bought them in Kyoto last year.

Lucas Long
Lucas Long

This thread renewed my belief that Sup Forums actually cares about anime rather than being stupid teenagers and early 20s following whatever garbage is churned out each season.

Thanks, I mean it.

Landon Sanchez
Landon Sanchez

Were you one of the lucky fuckers at AX 2015 who won the rock, paper, scissors tournament at the Trigger panel?

Jeremiah Miller
Jeremiah Miller

Hold on there cowboy, there is a great deal of dumbfucks in the thread that know jack shit about how animation works. Not totally dead just dying.

Blake Foster
Blake Foster

Where would sell these? I want one of Reuenthal from LoGH but Ebay doesn't have any.

Jace Ortiz
Jace Ortiz

Are there any tricks to searching for particular cels?

I'd pay up to 1,000 dollars for one of pic related

Jose Russell
Jose Russell

The most known example is THAT scene from Dissapperance of Haruhi.

Sebastian Perry
Sebastian Perry

1,000 dollars
Ha try 10,000. The nips get the best picks years before we do.

Anthony Sullivan
Anthony Sullivan

I don't see the problem with that as long as they ask. I mean sure you should know how anime is generally made before you post here but it's better than mouthing off complete bullshit like 50% of Sup Forums.

Isaiah Cox
Isaiah Cox

more hibikek

Jonathan Green
Jonathan Green

Use this link and find something nice.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=&_osacat=1345&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1311.R1.TR3.TRC2.A0.H0.Xlegend+of+galac.TRS0&_nkw=legend+of+galactic+heroes&_sacat=1345

Juan Martin
Juan Martin

Did animators actually use real paint to colour in cels back in the day ? How the fuck does it look so clean like someone just clicked on a paint fill tool in ms paint ?

Isaiah Thompson
Isaiah Thompson

See
They would paint underneath the cel

Jonathan Carter
Jonathan Carter

Yes and the painting work was pain in the ass.

Leo Brooks
Leo Brooks

To spend or not to spend. This urbantreasurehunterjapan has a ton of cels.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=&_osacat=1345&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1311.R1.TR3.TRC2.A0.H0.Xlegend+of+galac.TRS0&_nkw=legend+of+galactic+heroes&_sacat=1345

Wyatt Nelson
Wyatt Nelson

Damn. This is gold.

Jaxon Perry
Jaxon Perry

I don't remember this scene from the anime.

Adrian Sullivan
Adrian Sullivan

If anyone has a cel from Redline, please share it so I can vent my jealousy and lavish you over how exquisite your taste is. Because fug man, I can't find anything relating to production cels for this movie, it sucks.

I would love to get my hands on this bad boy.

tfw it might be stuck in a box somewhere or worse, destroyed

Lincoln Garcia
Lincoln Garcia

Wrong link.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/INUYASHA-SANGO-RUMIKO-TAKAHASHI-ANIME-PRODUCTION-CEL-/400996239688?hash=item5d5d3d0948:g:iNcAAOSwVL1V-Zy9

Isaiah White
Isaiah White

Price: US $895.00
And best of all it's fake. None of the Eva cels you see online are real. Just really nice looking bootlegs.
The only "real" Eva cels are the Cellu-Club ones, and even those are simply reproductions.

Logan Martinez
Logan Martinez

Could any of these be real? Maybe production staff.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=urbantreasurehunterjapan&_armrs=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xevangelion.TRS0&_nkw=evangelion&_sacat=0

Logan Torres
Logan Torres

the keyframes for this show look absolutely awesome, but is it actually a good show? should I watch it? Kyoani has burned me before. Like I wanted to like amagi brilliant park because they tempted me with lucious ass in the first episode. but then NOTHING FUCKING HAPPENED.

Logan Carter
Logan Carter

It was a decent show. At least much better than Chuuni, KnK and PW.

Cooper Johnson
Cooper Johnson

Remember that time a guy was killed over a cell of Eva-01 screaming, covered in blood?

Grayson Jenkins
Grayson Jenkins

It makes me think of those double dildos that go in a girl's vagina and anus at the same time.

Aiden Robinson
Aiden Robinson

It's highly unlikely. The only legit cel I'm aware of sold on Manda years ago for almost $4,000. There have been a few others probably, but again that was almost a decade ago.

If you see an Eva cel, and it doesn't look like its from the Cellu-Club set, it's almost certainly not legit. This is all for the original TV run mind you, I think EoE is slightly different. I believe there might be some legit cels out there for EoE, don't quote me on that though.

Ryder Phillips
Ryder Phillips

Chuuni was the best of those 3 you listed, just the blueballing and change of timeline in the adaptation made it more irritating.
Not that far behind Eupho

Julian Gutierrez
Julian Gutierrez

How does one verify if a cell is authentic?

Jose Morgan
Jose Morgan

Yeah, it's worth watching. It's a "hard work fulfills dreams" anime that is pretty well done, interesting characters, actual progression.

Brayden Flores
Brayden Flores

not posting it
not having the file name be Ghost in the Cell

Jaxon Sullivan
Jaxon Sullivan

Only reason that I'd believe the ones in that ebay listing are real is that they aren't of popular characters necessarily.

I mean everything else is pretty much fake on ebay. Just from the first page.

David Gray
David Gray

Wish I had something to contribute, great collections anons.

Robert Edwards
Robert Edwards

See

Daniel Morgan
Daniel Morgan

No those are still almost certainly fake. Eva had 6 hand painted reproduction cels that were released (as a part of the Cellu-Club series) and all of them had a GAINAX seal of authenticity on them, those clearly don't nor are they any of the 6 cels from the series, so they're definitely fake as well.

To be honest, I wouldn't mind a fake cel, for the right price naturally, as most of them look pretty damn good assuming it's actually paint on the cel and not just ink from a machine.

Ian Miller
Ian Miller

THAT scene
They had to, scenes like that don't look believable at 2x.

Brandon Jones
Brandon Jones

This is probably the only legitimate one I could find, but it's already sold.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asuka-Langley-Sohryu-Evangelion-anime-cel-Repro-Hand-painted-/121835899303?nma=true&si=gXYcQGcHzwagbH0k24O6i09dJrQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Mason Phillips
Mason Phillips

Yeah, that's legit (just look at the other pictures in the listing). But again, that's still not a production cel (GAINAX never actually officially released those), only a reproduction. Still released and licensed by GAINAX nonetheless.

Josiah Hernandez
Josiah Hernandez

Is that from the final Raoh fight? Looks like that background but I know they reused a lot

Thomas Diaz
Thomas Diaz

this is digital, familia.
pretty sure you could get some douga/genga though

James Williams
James Williams

Sup Forums is legitimately the best board and by far the best place on the internet to discuss either animation or anime in general. If others have told you otherwise and you believed them you have been led astray.

Connor Jones
Connor Jones

I have a few Eva, Jubei-chan, Bubblegum Crisis and 2040 and 2 Ghost in the Shell cels.

Lincoln Collins
Lincoln Collins

Lot of people talking about the eva cels being fake. Which ones do you have?

Joshua Hughes
Joshua Hughes

To the best of my knowledge, no Eva production cels were ever released to the public. The reason was that Gainax decided to keep the cels for future remastering. Because fans clamoured for them and Gainax smelt money they copied a few and sold those. I don't know what happened to the original cels; they might have been trashed but I think it's more likely that Gainax still has them in storage and given that Eva is still big, they'll probably keep them around just in case they want to do a high-resolution remastering in the future for which the film isn't good enough.

Owen Nguyen
Owen Nguyen

No? What's the full story? Is it in the archive?

Nicholas Gutierrez
Nicholas Gutierrez

Cels are notoriously easy to fake. The whole point of the cel process is to make it possible and cost-effective to produce thousands of frames with a consistent look. And with all studios using pretty much the same materials, even an expert couldn't really say for sure unless the fake was really badly done.

Luis Parker
Luis Parker

heh

Adam Flores
Adam Flores

You could maybe tell a fake by forensic analysis of the paints/inks used compared to those of a known original. But if you don't have a known original then that won't help you either.

Basically, if you have a DVD/BD of the anime then you can capture any frame and from that produce a fake douga and a fake cel. You can count the cels used in the cut and then work out the cel number and probably the layer too to make it look even more authentic.

Of course if you see two identical cels then at least one of them is fake, but there's really no advantage for a forger to do the same cel over so they'll probably take a complete cut and do all the cels in it in one sitting so that the paint colours are consistent.

Another thing often said is that cels with the characters' eyes closed are more likely to be genuine because cels with eyes open generally fetch higher prices, but who's to say there isn't some reverse psychology going on there? Maybe the forger is more likely to do eyes closed cels because they are more likely to be believed to be genuine.

At the end of the day, there is no knowing whether a "genuine production cel" is real or not, unless you actually went to the studio yourself and bought it. All that matters, like with any purchase, is if you're happy with it for the money you paid.

James Brooks
James Brooks

Even forensic analysis isn't going to help very much, because of common cel materials and inks. And you'd need an expert to tell – good luck finding one outside Japan. And not enough documentation remains, so unless an entire production run of cells has been sold and many of them are available for comparison, often even people who worked at the studio don't know which materials were originally used in the first place.

James Mitchell
James Mitchell

common cel materials and inks
I'm not sure how anime studios handled things, but Western studios generally mixed up large batches of paints for each colour and shade used so as to ensure consistency across a season or a movie. I guess that wouldn't work though with the outsourcing done in Japan, so maybe they just used stock colours and used Pantone references or the like to get consistency.

Eli James
Eli James

Here is three of my favorite out of about 20 Eva cels.

And do I know if they are fake or not, well these are no Picaso or Rembrant paintings and I have had the majority of these for many years so no I do not think these are fake. There are many rumours about the lack of releasing these cels by Gainex but the majority of cels that are out there, apparently most were taken by staff over time. Its not like there is one or two cels per scene, there are many cels that make the scenes but Gainex probably has the main key cels locked away. Also if you notice, many of the Eva cels are either from the first few episodes and in the middle but not many else where in the series.

Jaxson Price
Jaxson Price

the first few episodes and in the middle
Isn't Rei with toast from the last episode?

Dylan Perez
Dylan Perez

it symbolizes a slice of life

Austin Gonzalez
Austin Gonzalez

Dammit......'I do not know if these are fake or not'

Sorry typing on the phone.

Zachary Nelson
Zachary Nelson

How much did you pay for those three user?

Kevin Stewart
Kevin Stewart

Yeah very rare for something like that. I knew of someone who had a scene from the intro a few years ago but I dont know if he still has that.

Bentley Clark
Bentley Clark

Yeah it is and I'm fairly certain cels from the last few episodes are very rare.

Hudson Harris
Hudson Harris

I bought these around 2005-06 and the $AU was crap against the $US but I paid $600 for Rei, $500 for the two Evas and I think $300 for Unit 1.

Alexander Brooks
Alexander Brooks

How many copies of each cell exists? Is it usually one per cell?

Julian Morgan
Julian Morgan

looks pretty fake to me
the paint is way too smooth

Jace Price
Jace Price

Okay, I was worried you were going to say something like $100-200. I've been wanting to buy a few more and more every day despite the fact that all of my knowledge regarding them goes against their validity.

Gabriel Phillips
Gabriel Phillips

All I have is this and another one

Parker Sullivan
Parker Sullivan

Yeah not in person buddy, close up a lot of blemishes and the old pencil drawing pages that have been ripped of the back.

Ian Thomas
Ian Thomas

That's the whole point. Each production cel is a one-off original and is different from every other cel because why would they go to the expense of making a second identical cel?

Elijah Watson
Elijah Watson

I can see that working for a film, but for a television series? I doubt it, and I doubt it would be necessary. Anime is a big industry, ink manufacturers can sell lots of ink, so if you're producing an anime, chances are you're able to find inks you like.
I've seen a documentary about, granted, a German animation studio and even there they were inking straight out of the little paint bottles, which looked exactly like those you can buy in a hobby shop. They weren't using custom mixes.

Christian Reed
Christian Reed

That wouldn't be a good representation of authenticity. They kept these things in good shape, assuming that's a legit production cel, and all of the previous owners also took good care of them then they could easily look the same as they did 25 years ago.

Jacob Collins
Jacob Collins

I get why they're so rare and expensive then

Justin Lopez
Justin Lopez

Forgive the shitty photo quality, never got them laminated and don't want to touch them anymore as the markers are wearing off

Basically these were signed and drawn on by Atsushi Nishigori (who drew the Daiganzan flipping me off), Yoh Yoshinari (who drew the Spiral King), Akai and others (don't have the full list in my head anymore)

The most outrageous thing someone brought to this autograph session was a toilet seat he had them draw on

Ian Morgan
Ian Morgan

Sorry I do potentially have a fake Eva cel which close up is too smooth and clear. I dont know for sure it is but I do have some slight doubt about it.

Isaiah Peterson
Isaiah Peterson

Here is the crown piece of my collection. As Sadamoto drew her for me, I stood there crying like a kid.

Sorry for posting these in a Cel thread.

Juan Long
Juan Long

Cool stuff user. When'd you get these autographed?

Zachary Bell
Zachary Bell

apparently most were taken by staff over time
That's the kind of thing I'd tell people if I wanted to sell a fake cel.
By the way, I've got a bridge to sell you. It's in good condition and connects two shores of a major European port city. You'll make a million in fares.

Jack Rodriguez
Jack Rodriguez

2008, Connichi (Germany).

Colton Price
Colton Price

What's she drawn onto?

Julian Nguyen
Julian Nguyen

Got it from Anime Expo I see.

Samuel White
Samuel White

animeNEETs
appreciating art

Blake Reyes
Blake Reyes

Lucky fuck

Jonathan Cooper
Jonathan Cooper

Microsoft Surface's backside

He asked how big, I replied "whatever size he wants" to the translator

Carson Parker
Carson Parker

Two from first Ghost in the Shell movie. One of the major and the other is Batou when they're on the boat after she deep sea dives.

Jeremiah Wood
Jeremiah Wood

Shit man, I'd probably never use that surface again if that was me, or at least get the backside replaced. I'd worry too much about the marker rubbing off or getting damaged.

Angel Peterson
Angel Peterson

I'm fucking impressed this got so much replies.

Luis Harris
Luis Harris

Yoshinari draws the sexiest lines in the world.

William Ross
William Ross

Old Sup Forums really showed up here. Plus most threads regarding chink paraphernalia do well anyway.
half the thread is Eva related
Not even surprised.

Joseph Butler
Joseph Butler

It's a genuinely interesting thread compared to the rest out there. Also partly because of Evangelion and 90's anime.

Hudson Sanders
Hudson Sanders

my nigga

What if I got both? Character artist was there too but he was taking a shit or something. Still mad.

Jose Wilson
Jose Wilson

More Misato?

Nolan Moore
Nolan Moore

the small blue poster

I can't express how fucking jealous I am with words, it looks like a painting.

Julian Torres
Julian Torres

Where did you get that done?

Jaxon Bell
Jaxon Bell

It's an artbook

Nathan Bennett
Nathan Bennett

Every time I'm in Japan and scout Nakano and other places I'm tempted by these but then I don't want to get burned by the honorary jews so I buy rare soundtracks and idol shit that is less fun but at least 99.999% legit. But I would kill for some good legit cels from my favourite shows from the 90s when I grew up.

S-should I just not give a fuck and give in?

Brandon Richardson
Brandon Richardson

Last time Sadamoto was in Germany

Lucas Lee
Lucas Lee

The thumbnail makes the censoring look like very erect and puffy nipples.

Jackson Cook
Jackson Cook

hell yeah, the top floor in Nakano Broadway is where I got all my cels and storyboards.

Owen Powell
Owen Powell

toast symbolizes a slice of life.
Anno does it again!

Christopher Diaz
Christopher Diaz

Original art by these people
So fucking jealous.

Camden Scott
Camden Scott

Yeah, but I know it's said multiple times in the thread already but I would feel very stupid paying $100+ for a $2 fake and I doubt being in Japan makes it any more safe.

I avoided cels before because I had no money and now that I kinda do I avoid them too because they went way up in price since digital paint took over and I have no clue how to tell fakes. It's totally new territory for me and I hate feeling like a clueless idiot, especially when it's clueless idiots who get scalped the most.

Jacob Bailey
Jacob Bailey

I'd wager knowledgeable collectors get scalped as often as clueless idiots.

Dominic Butler
Dominic Butler

Probably. If I was a cell painter who'd lost my job because of digital paint, I could earn much more per cel by making fakes than I ever got making genuine ones.

Connor Turner
Connor Turner

That kinda defies the point of collecting cels for their value as something physically used in the show then, no? It just means you're rich enough to spend hundreds or more on a pretty picture that just accidentally may be a genuine production cel.

Lucas Ross
Lucas Ross

Wow. I never really thought about it from that perspective.
So if the studio's would sell the cels they have, they could afford to pay their animators a much better wage than they do.

Jonathan Foster
Jonathan Foster

Pretty sure those violate US law and therefore Sup Forums rules, hope your little confession doesn't earn you a trip in the party van.

Bentley Bennett
Bentley Bennett

this is digital, familia.

Is that supposed to be bad or anything? Normally, when you work on animation, you have to draw key frames out, so I'm sure this movie isn't any different. There is a couple of art books out for Redline that I would love to get my hands on, but a production cel would be even better to have.

Henry Jenkins
Henry Jenkins

Read up on what a cel is. Drawn keyframes =/= cels.

Luke Richardson
Luke Richardson

Since this is a chill and mature thread, I'm going to go ahead and ask it here.

I've been extremely busy with work for about a year, has anything come out recently that's worth watching? The last season I followed was the one that had Ninja Slayer.

Adam Clark
Adam Clark

/wsr/

If you liked Ninja Slayer watch Uchuu Patrol Luluco.

Cooper Smith
Cooper Smith

their value as something physically used in the show
That would be about a dollar, maybe two. After all, that's what studio's are paying the animators. The rest is rarity value.

Xavier Johnson
Xavier Johnson

The entirety of Who Framed Roger Rabbit

Carter Peterson
Carter Peterson

my dick

Biker chick and her Tesi 1D were the best thing about Golden Boy

Christopher Morris
Christopher Morris

I have one more thing to show you, this one I got back in 2003 when I bothered the poor man during his spare time (he was outside on a smoke break).

His booth was always surrounded so I was unable to get an autograph this way, but even in his spare time Urushihara was kind enough to draw Teeta for me.

Logan Ortiz
Logan Ortiz

Which had a $ 58 M budget. For a box-office hit worth six times as much, this is acceptable. For a television anime episode, it isn't.

Lincoln Hughes
Lincoln Hughes

And that was in 80s bux. It takes an army of animators to take no shortcuts.

Robert Edwards
Robert Edwards

It takes an army of animators to take no shortcuts.
And a fitting number of casualties. Long hours, eye strain and RSI abound.

Xavier Russell
Xavier Russell

Yup. In today's money that would be $ 117 M: more than twice as much.
By the way, do you know about the Dip in the movie? Well, I've heard some animation studios used to clean cels and reuse them to save money. (A similar thing happened to lots of old television programmes: the tapes got reused. It always amazes me that we do these things over and over and nobody thinks ‘hey, maybe this might be worth a lot or become irreplaceable’.)

Connor Diaz
Connor Diaz

BUMP

Actually just wanted an excuse to post Kuromi itt

Nathan Wilson
Nathan Wilson

It always amazes me that we do these things over and over and nobody thinks ‘hey, maybe this might be worth a lot or become irreplaceable’.
That's what my father used to think. Three years now since he's kicked the bucket and I'm still cleaning the house out of all sorts of collectible shit he's amassed.

Obviously some of his collector's mentality has rubbed off on me so I didn't just trash all stuff I didn't care about, but I would need another lifetime and a half to really understand the value of it, stamps and coins being the easiest. So I'm just doing a semi-half-assed job trying to value it and not sell it at too much of a loss.

tl;dr don't do it to your kids and don't collect too much shit, thanks for reading my blog.

Kevin Perry
Kevin Perry

tl;dr don't make your kids suffer and don't reproduce
FTFY

Benjamin Sanchez
Benjamin Sanchez

At least if I don't reproduce, my kids won't complain about me.

Cameron Wright
Cameron Wright

You lucky prince.

Justin Richardson
Justin Richardson

this thread
Fucking jealous of you all, especially the guy who met Sadomoto

I don't even know what my dream cel would be, from evangelion most likely

Henry Murphy
Henry Murphy

How can you tell what's fake or not?

John Gray
John Gray

See: , , , , and tl;dr You can't; Eva's are fake; hope for the best.

Jaxson Price
Jaxson Price

thanks

Angel Collins
Angel Collins

Of course there are no corrections in douga.

Luis Thomas
Luis Thomas

Late but here it is

Met them at AX but I didn't win that rock paper scissors thing.

Ryan Thompson
Ryan Thompson

In fact the cels you're talking about had been rescanned once for the Laserdisc release (which, up until the BD release, was the best possible image quality for Evangelion) and have probably been transferred to Khara by now since Khara now own Evangelion and are putting out BDs of the TV series.

That being said, I know that back in the 90s Animators did not refrain from stealing cels to sell them and earn cash on the side.

Oliver Hernandez
Oliver Hernandez

I don't think they rescanned the cels. The quality of the existing film should be good enough even for 1080.
Redoing from the original cels and backgrounds is a lot of work, they won't do it unless the original film is unworkable for the new medium.

Kevin Bell
Kevin Bell

You can find some things on ebay still

John Fisher
John Fisher

As for douga and genga, would it be any easier to tell if they're fake or not? A couple I've been eyeing seem to be done on their company paper. Says their studio on the corner as well as time and frame.

Kevin Lewis
Kevin Lewis

Wait, they redraw the linework digitally? I thought they redraw/clean up traditionally and then just scan it and color it using those lines.

Alexander Clark
Alexander Clark

Both actually. The draw it traditionally, then colour it on the computer method came first. Even then you don't need cel anymore though: you can just draw it on paper.

Jordan Taylor
Jordan Taylor

The first panty and stocking artbook is hilarious because first there's Nishigari's all concept work over panty and stocking and how he kept developing them overtime and they're all quite nicely drawn even though they're sketches.

Then at the end there's Yoshinari's fucking amazing sketches

but in the middle we have Imaishi, who really doesn't give a fuck when sketching.

Justin Ross
Justin Ross

iirc the TV tapes of Evangelion were pretty exhausted, there was a digital rework made in Germany that blew up the colors and was used as base for subsequent releases but the image quality of that is completely different than the LD release, so the alleged rescan of the cels sounds pretty likely desu

Jonathan Gonzalez
Jonathan Gonzalez

Recent douga and genga were reproduced or reprinted by the company and they are official goods. They are less pricey than cels, but it depends on the company itself. Hibike Eupho's genga posted here are sold in packs. Each pack contains 10 reprinted genga and is sold for 2000 yen each (tax excluded).

Liam Harris
Liam Harris

I remember when the NGE BD box came out the rippers and encoders were bitching a lot about shitty grain and coloring inconsistencies between episodes. From that it doesn't sound like they re-shot it.

It's not like the master film copies get run down from use, they're not meant to be used but stored, so the only deterioration is from the film medium itself (especially if stored in shitty conditions). But you can still scan it in 4K easily and work from there, which I hope is what they did rather than just settling on 2K transfer.

Robert Barnes
Robert Barnes

I wonder if anyone has a cel/key frame of the scene in Golden boy where he watch an animator draw a lewd key frame.

Ethan Price
Ethan Price

AAAAAAAAAAAAA IF I ONLY HAD THE MONEY
fuck being pisspoor on a third world country

Henry Taylor
Henry Taylor

Not exactly a cell, though I'd give a kidney for one with that frame (even if they're not the originals, as long as it has a Gainax/Khara seal it's ok for me), but I saw an autographed Asuka over here, so I guess it's ok for me to show this too?
I still can't believe how lucky I am. I never thought I would be owning this one day.

Carson Morris
Carson Morris

when she sees the D
Reminds me of The Story of Little Monica.

Jaxon Carter
Jaxon Carter

Come across the border before the wall is build.

Jordan Wright
Jordan Wright

I have a 35mm frame from Totoro somewhere

Hudson Adams
Hudson Adams

So would the originals actually be done in pencil or does that only apply to older series? Being reprints, I can see why they'd be less expensive.

Connor Collins
Connor Collins

Just one

Robert Davis
Robert Davis

Most anime genga and douga are done in pencils, even now. They would outline them in shiage/cleanup stage before filling in the colors. Only few companies rely on animation software to do douga.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zXv2gqclx4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80wYWBbvHvQ

Carter Richardson
Carter Richardson

Anyone know what this means? 総作監修正集 Not getting what "Tadashisu" is.

Hudson Torres
Hudson Torres

collection of revised materials by animation director, I guess,

Kevin Long
Kevin Long

C U T E
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Caleb Gray
Caleb Gray

Send it to moot.

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