What was the last good Gundam series?

Nathaniel Sullivan
Nathaniel Sullivan

What was the last good Gundam series?

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Lucas Scott
Lucas Scott

Build Fighters

Juan Smith
Juan Smith

That's an oxymoron. There was no good Gundam.

Zachary Anderson
Zachary Anderson

Do people really like these shows for anything but the robots?

Cooper Roberts
Cooper Roberts

Are there any good Gundam series at all? I watched a few stand alone series knowing that they're considered bad and they were. Then I watched 0079, but it was bad too. I don't want to sit through hundreds of episodes of shit to chronologically arrive at a good series, but there must be SOME reason for the ongoing popularity of the franchise.

Parker Sanders
Parker Sanders

I watched for best girl.

Gavin Perez
Gavin Perez

00

Camden Ward
Camden Ward

Is Ironblooded Orphans that bad?
It just felt like a grimdark less good TTGL to me

Isaac Cruz
Isaac Cruz

Thunderbolt

Eli Price
Eli Price

TV: 00
Other: Unicorn

Nathan Thompson
Nathan Thompson

G.

Wyatt Roberts
Wyatt Roberts

It's not SEED Destiny bad, but due to the pacing of the writing it just feels dull. The mobile suit fights weren't all that impressive looking either

Isaac Moore
Isaac Moore

this so much, only 4 episodes but its what a mech show should be like

Matthew Smith
Matthew Smith

When we say series, are we talking TV series or OVA series as well?

Caleb Watson
Caleb Watson

0079

Ian Brooks
Ian Brooks

G-Reco

Jonathan Ramirez
Jonathan Ramirez

I think the best part was that they fleshed out the backstories of the two main characters in episode 2 without resorting to a long monologue.

Nathaniel Stewart
Nathaniel Stewart

0083

Ryan Morgan
Ryan Morgan

Brutha

Ethan Ortiz
Ethan Ortiz

IBO was the most recent good gundam. Actually, not good. Great is a better word.

Hating IBO is just a meme from bitter /m/-fags who wouldn't know a quality show if it hit them in the face.

Camden Gray
Camden Gray

Nu>Hi-Nu

Carter Moore
Carter Moore

Music. Don't forget the music, fampasan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN7vrhOY9j8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCKyQCEq3uM

Carson Campbell
Carson Campbell

meme gundam

kindly fuck off back to /m/ please

Ethan Allen
Ethan Allen

00 was great, just don't watch the movie >_> Unicorn was quite good as a reboot/sequel of the original series

Josiah Sanchez
Josiah Sanchez

Maybe try 0080. It's short, sweet and doesn't insult your intellegence aka no psychic and space magic asspulls

Wyatt Rivera
Wyatt Rivera

This was the last good Gundam series, OP.

Aiden Foster
Aiden Foster

IBO

Owen Parker
Owen Parker

fyi, /m/ deliberately shit on IBO because it's written by Mari OKADA.

She's related to this OKADA btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUfoABgld2g

Xavier Lopez
Xavier Lopez

Build Fighters

Origin and Thunderbolt unless you count OVAs

Jason Wood
Jason Wood

Want to give BF perfect scores
Reiji uses Build Knuckle too often

A bit formulaic is its only flaw. The rests are just pure enjoyment, especially for a long time gundam fan like myself

Also, sweet gundumb flamenco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz0OQK2if1g

Jace Watson
Jace Watson

fan fiction tier.

putting itano circus in a UC Gundam story.

Christian Bailey
Christian Bailey

First, no matter what /m/ says, there's only one true Gundam canon, and that is UC spanning the life of Amuro and Char. Everything else is non-canon fanfiction.

The original Mobile Suit Gundam is great, as is most Gundam done in the 80's. For the '90s you have 0083. This is really when good Gundam ends.

There are other series with "Gundam" in it that are fun, like G Gundam, but I consider things like this (or Turn A, SD Force/Build Fighters) as parodies. Anything that tries to imitate the ideas of the original has failed. Any new installments in UC are bad.

"Gundam" is a finished product. It was finished over two decades ago.

Henry Martinez
Henry Martinez

That animation is amateurish and souless too. It doesn't look like legit itano circus but a clear imitation.

This is what Gundam has become.

Jacob Morris
Jacob Morris

IBO was alright. 00 S1 was really good. SEED is the best

Colton Reed
Colton Reed

0083
Great

Pretty sure many would disagree with you due to cuck factor

Also,

Turn A
Parodies

Good thing I despise /m/orons so it doesn't trigger me

Tyler Peterson
Tyler Peterson

imho, IBO lacked punch. Kudelia and space boat arc are the main problem. Mcgillis' betrayal was pretty sweet tho

Tyler Myers
Tyler Myers

That seems fair. It felt pretty different from the formula of most Gundam series I've seen though

Brayden Fisher
Brayden Fisher

This. The backstories of the main characters were conveyed very well through the flashbacks.

It honestly started off with me feeling like the roles had been reversed. The pilot of the Gundam was some dick hole ace pilot with some kind of twisted family connections, while the Souped-up Zaku Custom pilot was a downtrodden young man who'd personally lost friends to the Feddy pilot and had his own legs blown off in military service.

The more the series goes on, though, the more it becomes clear that these two very different people have a great deal in common, and that neither of their sides are necessarily the correct side. It's a very engaging story with some strong themes. I wish we could have more anime like this in general, to say nothing of Mecha.

Thunderbolt was great to me because the mecha were the least important part of the story. It was the people in the mecha that were important.

Juan Ortiz
Juan Ortiz

Personally, I'm glad Thunderbolt OVA ended with Psyco VS FAG showdown

The space buddhist arc is pretty terrible, plus Atlas gundam looks pretty retarded and out of place

Liam Kelly
Liam Kelly

Itano worked on the original Gundam

Angel Morales
Angel Morales

G-saviour famalam

Jacob Jones
Jacob Jones

Jap fans are okay with G-Savior

Camden Jackson
Camden Jackson

but there must be SOME reason for the ongoing popularity of the franchise.

Sweet ass model kits.

Christopher Nelson
Christopher Nelson

But that's just Kira with blond hair

Charles Young
Charles Young

Did you not see 0083?

Connor Cooper
Connor Cooper

Most of the Seed and Destiny cast is just Kira is different wigs. Same with Heroic Age.

Anthony Brooks
Anthony Brooks

IBO is a decent gundam show user, dont just jump in the hate train.

Mikazuki is what inaho should be, well given mikazuki's circumstances his personality makes more sense.

Joshua Butler
Joshua Butler

Then I watched 0079, but it was bad too
user, I'm sorry
Your incredible amount of shit taste is uncurable

Carter Brown
Carter Brown

user making sense in Sup Forums ? wtf happened.

and yes i wonder how /m/ shits so much on IBO, as much as "its not g reco" argument goes, it is true though, g reco is pretty shit.

Andrew Morales
Andrew Morales

i see the great /m/ has become shit.

nothing of value was lost.

Mason Gomez
Mason Gomez

I still don't get what the guy was smoking when he designed this.

Landon Hill
Landon Hill

Please don't remind me that

I fap regularly to Meer

Hudson Carter
Hudson Carter

Sunrise: "Go nuts"
Author: "m'kay"

Caleb Wood
Caleb Wood

It's practically an AU, who cares.
What's important is that Thunderbolt tells a good war story with well executed characterisation in just 4 episodes.

Benjamin Walker
Benjamin Walker

If this was like a base mech, like the Liger without its armor, and they were planning on adding extra armor and shit, I wouldn't mind it. But after those awesomely hefty designs and the dust covers, this feels like a large middle finger.

Ryan Walker
Ryan Walker

Pretty much.

http://otakumode.com/news/52fc76ef80cd488c6b00068f/Interview-with-Mobile-Suit-Gundam-Thunderbolt-Author-Yasuo-Ohtagaki-3-3

In the beginning, I told them that I wanted to be able to work freely, even if that meant it wasn’t part of the Gundam canon, and they told me I could do what I want.

James James
James James

The source material is an AU.

Gabriel Sullivan
Gabriel Sullivan

All dem beams and missiles, also 2 SHIELDS
Loses to a Nick Vujicic with shit taste in music

Fed dude's an embarrassment to humanity

Nolan Bennett
Nolan Bennett

So what's the in universe explanation for this design? The dust covers and shields were because of the debris and shit, so why this? Were they inspired by the high mobility capabilities of the Psyco Zaku?

Ian Ramirez
Ian Ramirez

It's a Ball with modular Gundam parts
Io's whole thing always seemed to be the revenge of the grunt

Connor Kelly
Connor Kelly

Loses to a Nick Vujicic with shit taste in music

I haven't watched the final OVA yet, but I keep seeing people say he lost. Did the OVA change something about the ending, because in the manga it's a double KO.

Lucas Evans
Lucas Evans

The dust covers and shields were because of the debris and shit,

Actually, that wasn't just for the thunderbolt sector. All the designs in thunderbolt (At least the space designs) are like that. Stuff like the GM in thunderbolt is literally just a nromal GM in that setting. Same with the Zaku, Gelgoog, etc.

And iirc the idea behind the Atlas is that it a highly mobile and responsive MS (hence the free moving balljoints) and it is designed to be highly modular. As shows the core is actually based on the Ball.

Leo Rogers
Leo Rogers

So it's a fancier B-Gundam.

Julian Butler
Julian Butler

I hate the fact that it's designated with the RX-78.

It's the furthest thing from an RX series suit you can get. Would've been way cooler if it's part of the RB series or something

Ryan Cooper
Ryan Cooper

It's still the same. Io loses because the Zeek reinforcements show up and he gets captured along with the remnants of the Moore Brotherhood.
He's a slippery one though. I hope there is a Thunderbolt 2 just to see its rendition of A Baoa Qu and Bianca animated

Lucas Jenkins
Lucas Jenkins

Hahaha. This is amazing

Robert Davis
Robert Davis

Yeah, but that's not so much "Io lost". That's a zeon force doing mop up on a concluded battle.

Especially insulting though was that the main EF fleet is literally parked right outside the zone and instead of sending reinforcements they're waiting for Zeon to leave so that they can move through unopposed to A Baoa Qu.

Parker Hernandez
Parker Hernandez

Is she gonna win?

Perhaps not, this a Jap comic afterall

Joseph Scott
Joseph Scott

Thunderbolt.

Landon Fisher
Landon Fisher

Seed

Aiden King
Aiden King

Here's a hoping that the show does well among western viewers

No kiddy tier politic
No newtype bullshit
Manly battles and jazzy goodness only

Spiritual understanding and karmic deaths are pretty tired eastern concepts anyway

Thomas Sanchez
Thomas Sanchez

Can you explain what was good about it, other than the obligation some people feel to worship old, influential series? It felt like a children's show because it is one. If you're not that into fighting robots there's no appeal.

Oliver Myers
Oliver Myers

jazzy goodness only

OST release in June, get ready.

Connor Roberts
Connor Roberts

please die

oh wait this is Sup Forums where everyone has the shittiest taste imaginable

guess ill fuck off to /m/ now

Julian Smith
Julian Smith

/m/ has discussed seed constantly for years. If you're looking to get away from seed you're going to the wrong board.

Ryder Smith
Ryder Smith

00 Movie was the last truly great Gundam. Buildfighters, Unicorn and Thunderbolt are alright though.

Jonathan Wilson
Jonathan Wilson

oh man user you just made my night. I thought it wouldn't have any soundtrack release since it was a webshow and hadn't bothered to check since it ended.

Lucas Rogers
Lucas Rogers

I hope there is a Thunderbolt 2
God forbid. The monk subplot is so retarded it makes Fukuda look smart.

Chase Torres
Chase Torres

I hated it when i first saw this exact picture but after reading the manga, the Atlas is so fucking based.

Robert Davis
Robert Davis

Origin's great, what are you on about

William Thompson
William Thompson

IBO, also go back to /m/ you trash

Camden King
Camden King

It just felt like a grimdark less good TTGL to me
TTGL
Worst comparison ever.

Samuel Hall
Samuel Hall

Dis

Henry Gray
Henry Gray

If it were to my high standards, SEED. As much as it plagiarized 0079, the fact that it did actually made it good, plus the songs.

The thing is about everything else post-SEED apart from Destiny, they're all good with some major flaw holding them back (00 was too character driven, AGE was childish, BF and BFT were just too formulaic and the direction in Reconquista in G was a bit of a clusterfuck).

Jack Rivera
Jack Rivera

The design looks like shit but I almost want to excuse it with a " they were trying new things " sorta attitude. I mean the new psycho frames they captures were just zakus in dresses. I feel that the Introduction of the first psy-frame sorta lead to a push on any current experimental production.

100% total head canon for sure but I see it happen all the time in real life. Something Shiney and new comes out and the other side pushes out crap without fleshing it out just to one up.

Also makes sense why the design never caught on since the result of that escort mission. The gun was awesome though

Cooper Kelly
Cooper Kelly

Code Geass

Jacob Smith
Jacob Smith

Last good Gundam series? Macross Delta.

Dylan Stewart
Dylan Stewart

Maybe a certain network for cartoons will pick it up

Bentley Allen
Bentley Allen

Build Fighter

Austin Hall
Austin Hall

Yeah, cults kinda turn me off but I can't hate them for adding a 3rd party to the mix of fedi vs zeon

Nathan Nguyen
Nathan Nguyen

Who are you mad at, user?

No /m/orons here. Otherwise, this thread will be full of Recturdfags saying G-reco is gud

Eli Miller
Eli Miller

Victory Gundam

Mason Parker
Mason Parker

Depends on your definition of good. The last Gundam series that is a must watch for any fan of the franchise is Build Fighters.

That being said, IBO is somewhere below 00 and Wing in the, "At least it didn't completely shit the bed" category, unlike G-Reco and SEED. I don't know if I'd call it good though.

Jacob Butler
Jacob Butler

It's like Cowboy Bebop but with giant robots

Levi Ramirez
Levi Ramirez

And dead kids! I love how all the leadership on his current sortie want him to die a horrible death

Ethan Perry
Ethan Perry

Io feels like he lost since his opponent is a cripple and a lot of perceived inferiority of his foe and his own perceived superiority.

Jason Ward
Jason Ward

This one. They've all been relatively bland since.

Brayden Long
Brayden Long

I'm working my way through Gundam: The Origin right now. It seems to be pretty good so far. Just waiting on the last 2 episodes to come out.

James Taylor
James Taylor

The Zeongs they captured don't have psycoframe. In fact, psycoframe doesn't exist in thunderbolt yet.

The Zeong has psycommu, which is different from what the pycho zaku has.

Connor Foster
Connor Foster

This.

Ryder Taylor
Ryder Taylor

SD

Levi Rodriguez
Levi Rodriguez

OVAs when ?

Asher James
Asher James

Under-fucking-rated post

Mason Rodriguez
Mason Rodriguez

[Scream internally eternally]
Just bought PG red 2 weeks ago

When will the jewing end?

Carter Torres
Carter Torres

Preview for episode 3, in case you haven't watched it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_2RFJ7f1gw

Luke Mitchell
Luke Mitchell

Victory
Someone post women in swimsuits being slapped to death by a gundam and incinerated by beam sabre pls.

Elijah Long
Elijah Long

Dat shit is nothing compared to this, famalam

Benjamin Brooks
Benjamin Brooks

I'm super psyched for the next ova and guncannon-fags tears and the complaining about how guncannon should be stronger than a zaku when a dozen of them get massacred by 3 zaku I and a ms-04 without damaging a single of of zeons ms.

Brandon James
Brandon James

lol wut? Are you talking about that guncannon massacre in TB?

Easton Fisher
Easton Fisher

leaving out the best part

for shame

Isaac Thompson
Isaac Thompson

thanks for the correction in a kindly manner

Nolan Gomez
Nolan Gomez

Thunderbolt would have been great if all the zeeks were slaughtered at the end.
Origin isn't over yet so you can't really judge.
IBO had some pretty interesting stuff going on, and Mika and McGillis were great characters, but the only decent female character was Carta, and that's only because of how her story ended. All of the main cast female characters were garbage. The middle part of the show was awful in general. The most wasted potential since AGE. Hope they get a different writer for season 2 and try to salvage it.
G-Reco was great but you can't talk about it on Sup Forums because it makes casual mecha fans who love entry level stuff like IBO and AZ butthurt because real mecha fans made fun of them for not being able to follow a Tomino anime. Hell, you can't even get away from those shitters in unrelated threads either, just look at them constantly shitting up Delta threads.

Eli Stewart
Eli Stewart

Thunderbolt aint over yet son

Gabriel Kelly
Gabriel Kelly

Hating IBO is just a meme from bitter /m/-fags who wouldn't know a quality show if it hit them in the face.
Or it could be, you know, real opinions.

Wyatt Clark
Wyatt Clark

Nope. Part of the Origin flashbacks is Professor minovsky attempting to defect to the EF. Zeon catches wind of this and sends a squad of 4 MS (Ral, Char, and two of the three tri-stars) to intercept him before the EF can pick him up. The EF meanwhile has been developing the guncannon in response to reports of zeon making a new MS, which thanks to AE taking over the project is a shoddy PoS not really built for ms on ms combat and made on a budget. The EF sends like a dozen newly made guncannons to protect professor minovsky. They get completely massacred. Like, it isn't even a fair contest how badly they get beat. Tem Ray uses the incident to get support for his Project V, which in origin is specifically to build just the gundam, free of AE input.

Benjamin Wright
Benjamin Wright

tfw have to suffer another season of IBO
Those GBF OVAs better come soon.

Liam Stewart
Liam Stewart

Better IBO than 3 movies of G-recturd

>Inb4 you don't have to watch them

Well, you don't have to watch IBO too, you fucktard moron

Wyatt Ortiz
Wyatt Ortiz

Thunderbolt.

Before that, Build Fighters. And before that 00 S1.

Elijah Perez
Elijah Perez

started watching the old Gundammus
finished MSG and MSG Zeta
start ZZ
want to stop immediatly

why

Jeremiah Scott
Jeremiah Scott

IBO wasn't bad

thunderbolt 1st episode was 10/10

Nicholas Reyes
Nicholas Reyes

No such thing

Robert Kelly
Robert Kelly

It was a show for children

Oh please, the majority of anime are targeting teenagers with completly retarded stories.

As to what make it great, I really liked the characters.

Aiden Foster
Aiden Foster

So why everyone is hation on G-reco?
The animations was gorgeous, the characters fun and the story pretty original. It was also fairly easy to follow, I have no idea how can someone not understand it.

Is this just a meme?

Kevin Nguyen
Kevin Nguyen

I'm not paying attention and can't follow the story
Tell other people the story makes no sense and not to bother trying to understand it
They don't pay attention and can't follow the story
Repeat ad infinitum

Logan Howard
Logan Howard

I liked Thunderbolt

Matthew Nelson
Matthew Nelson

Seed Destiny, And That's saying a lot about how bad everything after that has been. 00, AGE, Blood Orphans. I haven't been able to watch any of these past episode 4. Unicorn was OK, but that wasn't a series.

Kayden Long
Kayden Long

once they got to the crazy cult land temple the story started to fall apart. i myself loved the series and all the little things they added but that fucking trip to temple planet sucked ass

Nathaniel Fisher
Nathaniel Fisher

Noredo deserves a series where she is the MC.

Josiah Stewart
Josiah Stewart

but user . . .

Cameron Carter
Cameron Carter

It's the sudden and dramatic shift in tone. ZZ shouldn't be watched directly after Zeta. ESPECIALLY if you were expecting more Zeta.

Knock out one or two AUs then come back to it

Luis Price
Luis Price

It's basically a mix of butthurt, confusion, and disappointment.

Imagine it's 2014. You're an average casual mecha fan who has seen TTGL, Code Geass, NGE, maybe a couple of AU/OVA Gundams, that sort of stuff, but nothing more. You've heard of Tomino and you've heard of UC Gundam, but you've never actually seen any of that stuff since it's so old and there's so much of it. You know they're considered classics so you're excited to watch a new anime made by the man who made these classics. He hasn't made a single Gundam since Turn A in 1999, and you always see people praising Turn A in Gundam threads so this new anime of his should also be great, right?
Then G-Reco comes out and it's completely different from what you expected it to be. Then you, and other people like you, start wondering what the hell is going on, and people who are actually familiar with how Tomino works start making fun of you. So you start getting angry, and the more you get angry, the more they make fun of you. Eventually it escalates to a point where it's literally impossible to mention G-Reco at all.

I thought things would calm down by now and people would move on, but apparently one guy is still butthurt /m/ made fun of him so ever since IBO ended he's been spamming and samefagging every chance he gets about how terrible G-Reco and /m/ are.

Liam Williams
Liam Williams

0080 is the only one I'd recommend to someone not into Gundam. Opens with an okay explanation on what's going on, sets up the situation well enough and I actually found the little kids romanticism with war and soldiers very easy to relate to.

Gundam is popular because giant robots are cool. The stories are shit and the fans are insufferable retards who think it's good because it's "more realistic" when one or two minor characters die a heavily forshadowed and tragic death while spouting off nonsense.

Landon Diaz
Landon Diaz

Most people couldn't follow it and got meme'd on. The point at which "Stick to A/Z" went from a greco general meme to legitimately making people upset was the point where you could no longer discuss the show.

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