Space Patrol Luluco

Eli King
Eli King

8 minutes long
best animu since Inferno Cop

is kyoani even trying

Gabriel Ortiz
Gabriel Ortiz

Could have been 22 minutes if they didn't make the baffling decision to give Okada an anime

Brandon Jenkins
Brandon Jenkins

Who is this kyoani you can't stop talking about, guys?

Owen Evans
Owen Evans

is kyoani even trying
Implying they have ever tried, producing sub standard shit isnt exactly hard.

Adam Johnson
Adam Johnson

shorter is better, memes are more densely packed

Lincoln Ward
Lincoln Ward

What does this face imply?

Ethan Clark
Ethan Clark

luluco is masterpiece
Nice meme newfag, stop forcing it though, it's starting to be annoying.
It's a fun show but it has no substance and no message. Nothing of value would be lost If you don't watch it.

Jaxson Clark
Jaxson Clark

mom is gonna freak

Caleb Torres
Caleb Torres

bibrator in bussy

Nathaniel Murphy
Nathaniel Murphy

Desire for normality.

Austin Myers
Austin Myers

Nice meme newfag, stop forcing it though, it's starting to be annoying.
1 thread a week isnt forcing, fuck off and stop trying to fit in.

Joshua Lee
Joshua Lee

no substance and no message

It's a cartoon, dude.

Kevin Cox
Kevin Cox

There's a lot of implications in this post.

Gabriel Torres
Gabriel Torres

It's a fun show but it has no substance and no message
Luluco is the story of a girl’s adolescence — one of the most direct portrayals of such since FLCL‘s third episode and Eri Ninamori’s Marquis de Carabas. That whole changing into a gun in the middle of class? Yeah, that stands for something super embarrassing that could possibly happen to your body which is now changing without your permission and oh god help this sucks. All Luluco wanted was to blend in, which is impossible when you’re a part of the Space Patrol, or your body isn’t your own, or you’re a teenage girl.

Of course the hot boy transfer student’s transformation is cooler, and he has control over it, because everything he does in Luluco’s mind is perfect. Of course he instinctively inspires her to fire her own Space Patrol gun because hot boys inspire your body to do all sorts of things that you don’t understand but generally feel good for reasons. Quick, bright, and colorful — Luluco nails its premise in a way that’s fun to watch and never overstays its welcome.

Michael Jackson
Michael Jackson

I hate you fags and your COMING OF AGE XDD meme. Not all anime is about preteen puberty and sexual relationships. She just wants to turn her dad back to normal and get her mom to stop being mean

Xavier Ortiz
Xavier Ortiz

This one obviously is, or was.

Isaac Gomez
Isaac Gomez

Could you be any more from tumblr?

Gavin Foster
Gavin Foster

the newest cringe maymay

Jeremiah Price
Jeremiah Price

is this a copy pasta from the tumblr KLK shit?

Jack Howard
Jack Howard

I really don't the studio had this in mind

John Sullivan
John Sullivan

So close. These Trigger shorts are pisstakes on people who say stuff like that in earnest.

Robert Long
Robert Long

Trigger wants to be KyoAni you doublenigger. Next time you want one of those ebin /v/ style war threads start with Shaft or something.

Asher Flores
Asher Flores

it's the same thing as KLK I think
trigger made a flashy anime with self-awareness and fanservice and tumblr said the exact same thing about how it was about "a young girl's journey through puberty and being sexualized by the patriarchy"

it's really weird how western fans, especially MAL and Tumblr fans have to explain and over-analyze the show and find some deep meaning to be able to enjoy it

Jeremiah Hughes
Jeremiah Hughes

Why does Tumblr like certain Trigger shows so much, anyway?

Grayson Jackson
Grayson Jackson

trigger likes to put fake "deep" shit in their shows and usually has some kind of self-parody
they read this as being actually deep or a parody of an entire genre

Landon Powell
Landon Powell

Because they tend to pander the most to the west/casuals.

Brandon Ramirez
Brandon Ramirez

Does anyone really like this trash?

Jonathan Lewis
Jonathan Lewis

I know that you are just pretending, but I can't understand why some people can't simply enjoy shows as they are without trying to make them relatable to some random ideal or society aspect.

Cooper Adams
Cooper Adams

Is there any doujins yet?

Justin Wilson
Justin Wilson

Why is Sup Forums so opposed to the idea that shows can have deeper meaning? You can still enjoy them on a surface level too.

Gavin Long
Gavin Long

It's a chronic illness. A bit of a diversion: in the '60s and '70s, schoolteachers and critics started to give this treatment to popular music, with Bob Dylan and the Beatles being favorite sources to dig for deep meanings. "I Am the Walrus" was specifically aimed at messing with these people.

Julian Morris
Julian Morris

Because they try to be deep too many times and usually end up failing

Chase Taylor
Chase Taylor

they can but making up bullshit that isn't there is annoying and we like what we like
we don't need to have a reason to like something
a show doesn't have to have political or social meaning for it to be good because fun things are fun

when you make up fake "deep" bullshit about a show to justify liking it you are just as annoying as the anons who watch the cowboy bebop, eva, and tatami galaxy dubs and think they have the answer to what "good" anime is

Julian Ortiz
Julian Ortiz

I bet you illiterate niggers don't even recognise To Love Ru as bildungsroman.

Anthony Garcia
Anthony Garcia

Tatami Galaxy got a dub?

Camden Long
Camden Long

So what, you just deny that shows have a deeper meaning because other shows have tried and failed to have a deeper meaning? How does that make any sense?

Just like you don't want people telling you how to like stuff, they don't want you telling them how to like stuff either.
More importantly, having a deeper meaning doesn't lessen the surface level enjoyable aspects of a work, in fact it can make those aspects even more enjoyable.
Also
tatami galaxy dub
Doesn't even exist.

Elijah Sanders
Elijah Sanders

They don't even try. I bet that if you go talk to half of the authors of these supposed "deep" shows they would tell you that they hadn't anything particular in mind when making them.
By carefully cherrypicking some random points and ignoring others, people can make anything seems more meaningful than it actually is.

Aiden James
Aiden James

I always thought that song was weird and random as fuck compared to everything else. That makes sense.

I remember my english teacher making everyone explain the deep meanings behind an authors description of a red curtain once

Anthony Clark
Anthony Clark

you know what I mean
the people who pick the high profile entry-level shit that everyone else has seen and act like they just saw the meaning of life and anime

it's deep because I made a tumblr post that overanalyzes every single aspect and makes shit up out of my ass
I think you should first check those repeating digits of mine and then kill yourself

Leo Anderson
Leo Anderson

That post isn't mine but there's literally nothing incorrect about it. It's a perfectly valid interpretation of the show, and even if it wasn't intended (I highly doubt that is the case), it would still be supported by the text itself.

Parker Rodriguez
Parker Rodriguez

based on what?
most of those things are pulled out of whoever wrote it's ass
there is no link between anything in this show and puberty
it's someone deciding on a "head cannon" which even the word makes me cringe and forcing it as the "right answer"

let's get this straight
it's a late-night 8 minute long anime full of memes and fanservice to get a quick buck
not some deep commentary on society
so take your shitty "headcannon" back to tumblr where the other 12 year old girls can tell you how deep you are for making shit up

Christopher Bennett
Christopher Bennett

It's fun and a great way to exercise your creativity.
Even if the author tells you their thoughts, they aren't aware of every single one of the stories and trends that influenced their own style. Especially in a work like a television show, where dozens of hands had a part, all kinds of similarities and unintended references to other things can be found- even if they aren't intentional.
Again, it's fun.

Jason Jones
Jason Jones

kill yourself faggot

Eli Sullivan
Eli Sullivan

there is no link between anything in this show and puberty
Gun barrel comes out of Luluco's vagina
Explicit themes of a first romance
Person living a normal life suddenly has to adapt to a new and highly confusing world thrust upon her
Girl is in middle school, when many people go through puberty
The links are clear and obvious, you're just being stupid, whether that be by choice or circumstance.

Ryder Perez
Ryder Perez

There can be multiple answers to an open question. No one is telling you that you're wrong. It's called interpretation.

Also, it's spelled canon.

Nicholas Butler
Nicholas Butler

all kinds of similarities and unintended references to other things can be found- even if they aren't intentional.
So what you're saying is you're seeing shit where there isn't any.

Michael Gray
Michael Gray

So what you're saying is you're seeing shit where there isn't any.
No, he's seeing shit that the creators didn't even see. If you talk to any creator, serendipitous links that were never intended show up all the time.

Austin Watson
Austin Watson

see this anon's answer
and his nice dubs

Jaxon Hall
Jaxon Hall

the creators didn't see
then it didn't exist
you are trying to say that you know better about a work than the person who made it
holy shit how big is your ego that you think you're that important and smart?

Jeremiah Reyes
Jeremiah Reyes

So if I just threw shit on a museum wall and some random autistic modern art enthusiast interpreted it as "a critic to the utterly disgusting state of modern society", then this by itself would automatically make the composition as a whole deep?

Cooper Price
Cooper Price

Deep to them.

Mason Butler
Mason Butler

You do shit subconsciously all the time. Creators can do this to while creating things. Moreover, as communication, art can have a different meaning depending on who views it, and as long as you can justify an interpretation with the text there's no reason that interpretation is invalid.

Juan Hernandez
Juan Hernandez

Explicit themes of a first romance
Person living a normal life suddenly has to adapt to a new and highly confusing world thrust upon her
Girl is in middle school, when many people go through puberty
These are all common themes found in fantasy/adventure settings.

That's the point, if that's the case then you can't declare that the work itself is deep.

Aiden Lee
Aiden Lee

Guess how many times fantasy settings are used to represent puberty or growing up?

Cameron Martin
Cameron Martin

I know more about the work than someone who made it
I still can't believe you have an ego this fucking massive
I-it's all there I swear! they just didn't know that they made something!
this is grasping at straws, like your shitty attempt to analyze the show
it means what I want it to
wrong, it means what it means, you don't get to say that it's something it isn't and the only person who knows that is the creator

so shut your fucking mouth, go back to tumblr, and stop thinking you're better than the people who make the garbage pandering anime you gobble up

guess how many times anime with male MCs are harems
so are all anime with male MCs now harems?

Ayden Fisher
Ayden Fisher

None of your points have been anything but fallacies.

Jaxson Davis
Jaxson Davis

Not taking a side, but google "Death of the Author", it might give you a better idea of where the other guy's coming from.

Jeremiah Reed
Jeremiah Reed

Re:Zero is obviously an anime about the story of Subaru becoming a man, when he is forced to get out of his NEET lifestyle to be thrown on the harsh adult word, which from his ingenuous and childish point of view looks like an fantasy world that he knows nothing about. The respawns represent his failures and subsequent comebacks, alluding to the venerated theme of never giving up.
There's even the romance with Emilia and everything!

Adam Williams
Adam Williams

fallacy fallacy
just do my research for me while I samefag

Gavin Hill
Gavin Hill

I do not say or imply any of the stuff you're quoting. You're essentially just having a tantrum at this point.

Carter White
Carter White

He's not saying you're wrong because you're using fallacies, he's saying you're using fallacies and therefore your arguments are meaningless.

Carson Davis
Carson Davis

no, you're just backpedalling because you're trying to put words in the creator's mouth to push some agenda
kill yourself

Thomas Morgan
Thomas Morgan

Aren't you putting words in his mouth?

Jackson Phillips
Jackson Phillips

No, he's not.

Asher Reyes
Asher Reyes

Yes, he is. The stuff he quoted isn't even remotely similar to what I said. He's just repeating this arrogance crap.

Eli White
Eli White

You say that about any Trigger show, It's gotten boring now.

Xavier Thomas
Xavier Thomas

show me where trigger says this is a deep anime about puberty
I'll wait right here
you won't find it because you made it up

appeal to authority is not a fallacy sweetheart
if the creator says it's something you don't get to tell them they are not an expert on their own creation
you do not know the creation better than the creator PERIOD
so stop trying to invent some meaning to some show and accept that it isn't deep and it doesn't have to be deep for people to like it

Ryder Torres
Ryder Torres

Again, google "Death of the Author". It's not about putting words in the creators mouth, the art is interpreted as a seperate entity to the creator and their intentions about it's meanings are irrelevent.

Isaiah Jackson
Isaiah Jackson

I can't wait for season three.

Jason Rivera
Jason Rivera

No one in this thread has tried to correct the authors.

It is a fallacy to bring up the amount of shows people have seen.

Gabriel Baker
Gabriel Baker

The problem is that people don't go like "My interpretation of X is...", but "X is an anime about Y, and that's why it's a deep anime and should be acknowledged as such".

Chase Sanders
Chase Sanders

appeal to authority is not a fallacy sweetheart
Except that it literally is. That's not even what you were doing though, you were just strawmanning me and misrepresenting my argument as me being arrogant when what I'm actually saying is that the creators word isn't the be all end all of a piece of art, particularly when that piece is made by a group, not by a single person.
It's clear that you disagree though, which is fine, but you should tell me why you disagree rather than just continuing to scream about how right you are without any reasoning as to why.

Also
it doesn't have to be deep for people to like it
I have never said it had to be

Ian Taylor
Ian Taylor

Except that it literally is
not, but may be.

Tyler White
Tyler White

Sorry to break it you, but anyone who is emotionally developed knows that comedic anime has more substance than your "deep" anime about giant robots or military strategy or ancient quests. They highlight the absurdity of life and the situations is throws at us, and it amplifies the way it makes people feel to over the top levels to remind us of how we react. What you probably consider as having substance is just escapism.

Asher Taylor
Asher Taylor

How many times must I teach you, my children, that 'DEEP' is not characterized by seriousness, demographic, or pretention. Even the simplest children's stories like Little Red Riding Hood or The Little Prince (an inspiration to Kaiba) have substance. Dragon Ball has thematic depth people have debated and refined over the years.

Let go of your fear of childishness and embrace fiction.

Brandon Peterson
Brandon Peterson

A lot of the time people using the latter are either baiting or know that people are much more likely to discuss their interpretation if they put it across in an inflammatory way, which is unfortunate. I also would much prefer everyone use the former, but I guess we'll just have to deal with it.

Dominic Sullivan
Dominic Sullivan

Luluco's no Kafka m8. Say what you want about absurdity, but if it's not offering an answer to that problem like Camus and Kafka did than it isn't a deep work in that vein. Luluco doesn't try and adapt herself to the world and grow as a human being, she sticks to being normal for comic effect.

Adrian Taylor
Adrian Taylor

Yeah, most often than not stories aimed at children are made with some sort of "lesson" in mind.

Also,
'DEEP' is not characterized by seriousness, demographic, or pretention.
Who said that it is?

Gavin Collins
Gavin Collins

The show I'd only halfway over.

Tyler Hill
Tyler Hill

shorter is better,
worked for galko,
i feel it didn't work as well for luluco

Henry Howard
Henry Howard

I'll be honest, i'd like to an anime of when lalaco and her husband got together ,
seriously how does a space cop and space pirate date?

Josiah Hill
Josiah Hill

Is this some serious projecting going on?

I don't mean to say there is any 2deep4u meaning in KLK or Luluco, but I think it's not too far fetched to assume that a work can incorporate its creator's views even if he didn't intend to actively present them.

For example, an edgy teenager who hates any form of authority writes a book. In that book every person of authority is unreasonably mean and is always out to make the protagonist suffer. He thinks he's writing some genius social statement, but it's really more repesentative of his narrow minded view that authority equals bad, meaning he included something to analyze that he didn't even know about.

You can do this with other stuff as well.
A white guy hates black people and coincidentally every black guy in his story just happens to be evil or vice versa.
Someone has a low opinion of women and every woman in his story is irrational or a useless trophy wife.
Someone has an overly high opinion of women and he writes every single female in his story to be an unrealistic strong and independent woman stereotype.

Jack Johnson
Jack Johnson

They're begging for it

Cooper Rogers
Cooper Rogers

thicc

Thomas Peterson
Thomas Peterson

i fuckin love the way trigger animates

Kayden Parker
Kayden Parker

Tall claim. I WANT NAMES!

Chase Martin
Chase Martin

Post milf

Colton Stewart
Colton Stewart

Forced studio wars thread

Landon Cooper
Landon Cooper

post smug

Landon Wilson
Landon Wilson

Would Nova shoot bullets into that barrel?

Jeremiah Baker
Jeremiah Baker

smug

Ian Hughes
Ian Hughes

Trigger has two of the best shows this season.
How can one studio be so based?

John Wood
John Wood

I thinck luluco is too fast pace and wacky comedy to support a 1 core 22 minute time frame. If they did do that, they'd have to change alot. I love it as is though.

Camden White
Camden White

appeal to authority is not a fallacy sweetheart
using "sweetheart" to demean someone
don't really know what you're arguing about but i want to fucking murder you. anyone who calls someone "sweetheart" when they argue is worse than dog shit and should be thrown into a gas chamber without delay

Brayden Fisher
Brayden Fisher

Requesting a Keit-Ai version of OP

Bentley Diaz
Bentley Diaz

he will never betray her, right?

William Garcia
William Garcia

He'll fuck her.

Gabriel Lopez
Gabriel Lopez

actually he's a space demon

Blake Wright
Blake Wright

Not him but it's just an interpretation user.

Xavier Foster
Xavier Foster

GJM, please.

Alexander Price
Alexander Price

This should've been the length of the average Panty and Stocking episode (show had two 12 minute episodes so 13 twelve minute shorts would be neat)

Nathan Martin
Nathan Martin

soon

Ethan Perez
Ethan Perez

Trigger version of Satan

Owen Gomez
Owen Gomez

TRIGGER keeps making rape scenes

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