Sakura is a GOOD GIRL

Thomas Perez
Thomas Perez

Sakura is a GOOD GIRL

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Ian Lee
Ian Lee

A good slut you mean.

Jaxon Wood
Jaxon Wood

Sakura is the best heroine of F/SN and there's nothing any of you can do to change it.

Cameron Wood
Cameron Wood

Most people would have been broken with a lot less.

Nolan Baker
Nolan Baker

You're a Good Girl, Sakura.

Jonathan Flores
Jonathan Flores

Sakura is a USED GOODS

Alexander Brooks
Alexander Brooks

She needs to get some sleep and calm down

Robert Powell
Robert Powell

She isn't good enough.

Benjamin Flores
Benjamin Flores

Do grails poop?

Lucas Ramirez
Lucas Ramirez

But then why does she insist on biting that fish all the time?

Aaron Powell
Aaron Powell

Sakura leaks mud at night.

Ayden Gray
Ayden Gray

Sakurwa is a good whore you mean.

David Kelly
David Kelly

The only good Sakura is a dead Sakura.

Gavin Johnson
Gavin Johnson

Here, have your fish.
Now keep being a good girl and crawl back to your wormpit.

Owen Gray
Owen Gray

Yes.

Ayden Cox
Ayden Cox

Yes. She is just madly in love.
I just can't wait to hear Shitaya to say this line with crazy voice.

Eli Edwards
Eli Edwards

tfw that won't be animated this season

Mason Long
Mason Long

Guys, guys! I found a way to fix Sakura!

Just picture her with this looks and a better voice actress, teasingly calling Shirou "Emiya-kun" instead of squeaking "Senpai!" with her usual dick-craving tone. It's like instant perfection.

Camden Jenkins
Camden Jenkins

Honestly, just giving her a different voice and stop her saying "Senpai" constantly automatically makes her a good character.

Robert Evans
Robert Evans

You're cofusing good girl with good character. Sakura, as a character, is terribly written regardless of her looks and personality, but that's a story for other thread.

Colton Rivera
Colton Rivera

Nah, I think she's a good character personally, I just find her voice really annoying.
I think her romance with Shirou is bad though in that they have no chemistry and I don't think they make a good couple. I like them both as individuals and their character arcs in Heaven's Feel though.

Aiden Robinson
Aiden Robinson

I can wait year for it, if it will be done in all glory.
Also will Sakuralot's laught sound like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm0uVtu9cS8

Bentley Harris
Bentley Harris

The romance is all Sakura is about, take that away and she's just a generic damsel in distress turned villan. Cliched as fuck.
It's like you've got everything backwards.

Hunter Garcia
Hunter Garcia

Quick question.
Why do Touko and Aoko hate one another?

Lincoln Hughes
Lincoln Hughes

Every character is generic. Of the last 4000+ years of writing, there is no character that hasn't been overdone.

John Wilson
John Wilson

If Siblings don't love each other they hate each other.

Andrew Scott
Andrew Scott

Semantics? really?

Connor Mitchell
Connor Mitchell

Just make her bro character like Hiroyama did, and thing is done.

Daniel Edwards
Daniel Edwards

I'm not disagreeing with your semantics.

Dominic Miller
Dominic Miller

Congratulations, you just created Rin.

Kevin Torres
Kevin Torres

I can understand that.
Thanks

Brody King
Brody King

Reminder, that future Rin and future Sakura are basically personality swap.

Landon Taylor
Landon Taylor

Just make her bro character
This.
Remember when it seemed he hated her because of yandere Sakuralot
tfw 3rei Sakura ended up being best Sakura

Sebastian Walker
Sebastian Walker

Rin's voice is squeaky as fuck, though.

Dominic Jenkins
Dominic Jenkins

Just avoid Matou's adoption. Is stated that if Sakura wasn't adopted by them and stayed Tohsaka, her personality would be moreless like pictured.

Benjamin Gutierrez
Benjamin Gutierrez

Ughh, no thanks. I'll stick with the yamato nadeshiko type rather than the memetic dyke ojou type.

Zachary Torres
Zachary Torres

Then you must keep her wormraping. Since once she escapes from influence of Matous, fragments of her actual personality start to crop out. As you can see even in HA.

Joseph Young
Joseph Young

HA
Getting any personality right
FYI, she is the yanderest and creepiest she's ever been in HA.

Julian Young
Julian Young

How much of HA did Nasu write?

Zachary Morales
Zachary Morales

A decent chunk

Thomas Johnson
Thomas Johnson

father's day
I see what you did there

Owen Wood
Owen Wood

Where's this from?
The F/SN manga?
Is it any good like the Tsukihime manga

Charles Campbell
Charles Campbell

I need a better picture of that clock.

Jeremiah Clark
Jeremiah Clark

A fanmade manga called Type-Moon Complex. It's quite good for fanfiction, but expect impossible scenarios like Sakura with Lancelot's powers, Illya with Archer's powers, genderbent Gilgamesh, etc.

Anthony Russell
Anthony Russell

I want Sakura to be a bad girl

Adrian Jenkins
Adrian Jenkins

Well, she does love to get scolded

Zachary Ortiz
Zachary Ortiz

I don't say that she will get right. Just that she show some little fragnents of her actual personality. Even Shirou states here, that she basically becomes "Second Tohsaka" in HA.

Noah Cox
Noah Cox

That's from Prisma Illya 3rei. When shit got serious. Anime adaptation will probably rearch that in next year.

Robert Myers
Robert Myers

actual personality
So, you're saying HA's depiction of Sakura's personality is more accurate than SN's?
Fuck off.

Dominic Diaz
Dominic Diaz

Gimmie Clock

NO!

Alexander Watson
Alexander Watson

Fate/kaleid Liner PRISMAILLYA 3rei
In which Sakura is kind, happy, and loving.

Aaron Diaz
Aaron Diaz

Why aren't the times on the clock imaginary numbers?

Noah Rodriguez
Noah Rodriguez

Because Imaginary Numbers doesn't have anything to do with actual imaginary numbers.

Luis Allen
Luis Allen

In which Sakura is not Sakura
FTFY

Jordan Ross
Jordan Ross

What does the German text say?

Asher Nelson
Asher Nelson

"A boy falls in love with a girl.

Unable to confess, he is gifted with by a deus ex machina with the girl's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well."

Cameron Hall
Cameron Hall

Ebin maymay.

Mason Lopez
Mason Lopez

Thanks friend

Wyatt Moore
Wyatt Moore

Damn dude

Angel Phillips
Angel Phillips

Her voice actress is fine though.

Blake Roberts
Blake Roberts

Her voice actress' voice is the problem.

Matthew Lopez
Matthew Lopez

What's worse about this is that I have the banner of the fucking meme going into this thread.

Jack Sanders
Jack Sanders

"I'm reflected in the mirror. The world is nothing but virtual pictures in a set of mirrors against each other. I do not know my hollowness. And I do not have the hand that moves me*. But I exist here. I'm in the World of Mirrors, the endless Prismworld."

t. high-school german
*TL note: Probably means not being in control of one's own fate.

Nicholas Bennett
Nicholas Bennett

Shut up. Sakurafish is the only redeeming aspect of Sakura's whole existence.

Landon Wilson
Landon Wilson

Recursive fish

We're doomed!
No we aren't

WE'RE NOT DOOMED!

Grayson Ward
Grayson Ward

Sounds like you haven't read the VN.

Wyatt Ross
Wyatt Ross

I don't remember this in the VN

Ian Myers
Ian Myers

That was lazy as fuck

0.04/10 made me reply.

Thomas Sanchez
Thomas Sanchez

Saber.

Isaac Bell
Isaac Bell

Suit Saber
Patrician taste user.

Jose Russell
Jose Russell

Fo' you

Josiah Barnes
Josiah Barnes

God damn, where do I get a clock like that?

Eli Clark
Eli Clark

Not really accurate, it's rather more natural evolution of her personality after she frees herself from influence of Matous. Post-Matou Sakura never actually have same personality as possible Sakura Tohsaka could have. It just that HA Sakura is no more afraid of showing more of herself and thus her family's nature is more visible in her personality. Which is also why Shirou describes her as "turning into second Tohsaka".

Hunter Walker
Hunter Walker

Saber.

Ryan Evans
Ryan Evans

In HA Sakura becomes a stalker and a psycho jealous bitch after she's free from the Matous. Explain that, genius.
HA fucked up the personalities and went for a flanderized approach, it's shit.

Isaiah Taylor
Isaiah Taylor

Is hinted, that she was still wormraped. Not mention, that her past was probably even worse, consisdering that all Tohsakas are actually dead in this universe.

Daniel Clark
Daniel Clark

I want to fuck that Sword

Alexander Russell
Alexander Russell

Like Rin, for one.

Carson Cox
Carson Cox

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the ultimate Fate girl. Period.

Don't worry, Sakurafags, she's quite the slut, and comes with optional worms.

Angel Roberts
Angel Roberts

worm...
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Noah Green
Noah Green

This scene was pretty much the same thing.

Anthony Nguyen
Anthony Nguyen

Remember
[ ] I want to save Sakura no matter what
[x] Persist on being a superhero

Julian Carter
Julian Carter

That's an optional side scene, don't you dare compare it with Prisma's masterpiece.

Grayson Stewart
Grayson Stewart

.
.
.
Kill yourself.

Mason Campbell
Mason Campbell

You monster

Anthony Lee
Anthony Lee

Worm yourself.
FTFY

Andrew Peterson
Andrew Peterson

she's quite the slut
We can tell from those clothes.

Jack Baker
Jack Baker

This is all I can say to you.

Brayden Phillips
Brayden Phillips

second this, , didn't count

Jaxson Anderson
Jaxson Anderson

What part of "Everyday until you like it" you did not understand.

Grayson King
Grayson King

optional side scene
0/10

Jaxon Baker
Jaxon Baker

bad end
Also, reminder that the greatest moments of the VN happened because Shirou decided to save Sakura.

Wyatt Wood
Wyatt Wood

Yeah, just imagine how Sakura would look in those. The sluttiest girl with a slutty outfit, It would be like a slut squared, just delicious.
Too bad they gave her Saber's disgusting cuck face.

Anthony Rivera
Anthony Rivera

I just can't wait once Saber Install Rin will happen in Prisma. With regard to the current events, it's nearly inevitable.

Joseph Edwards
Joseph Edwards

Secondary detected.

Wyatt Campbell
Wyatt Campbell

You literally need to read that scene to even get into the HF route, LP watcher. Check out the flowchart.

Brandon Peterson
Brandon Peterson

TAKEUCHI, STOP TURNING EVERYONE INTO SABER FOR FUCKS SAKE

Evan Gonzalez
Evan Gonzalez

Saber.

Easton Baker
Easton Baker

If Saber install Rin will happen, you can be sure that Takeuchi will draw bonus art of her.

Austin Clark
Austin Clark

For Miyuverse Sakura it's not so much "hinted" as "all but stated." Aside from that, on one hand Shinji and Zouken died five years ago, on the other hand she's been living with the Ainsworths.

More interesting is main Prisma's Sakura. We only see her for like two pages, but she's a Matou with purple hair, so she was wormed too. We don't know how thorough Kiritsugu was when he killed everyone involved with the Holy Grail War ten years ago, but if he got Zouken he was too late to save Sakura. And if the Tohsakas are still alive, they couldn't care less about her. Sakura didn't even have Rin; she was educated at the Clock Tower until Zelretch assigned her to this business with the Cards.

Kayden Hernandez
Kayden Hernandez

All shall become Saber. Resistance is futile.

Jeremiah Anderson
Jeremiah Anderson

her own sister gets killed
nothing wrong at all
What a heartless bitch.

Ayden Perez
Ayden Perez

O P T I O N A L
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Aiden Powell
Aiden Powell

Isn't this what she's supposed to look like? Like didn't they say the crest worms altered her appearance so she didn't reflect her heritage?

And if she was raised by Tohsaka's, she probably would've acted like one too.

Dominic Perry
Dominic Perry

I'm just curious once flashback arc ends and final battle starts how they divide cards between themselves, considering that they now know how use them. And since there is exactly enough cards for each character in Miyuverse, is pretty obvious that this will happen.
To summarize. Not counting Shirou who don't need card and Kuro who is stucked with Archer card, there is:
Illya
Miyu
Rin
Luvia
Bazett

And remaining cards are
Saber
Lancer
Berserker
Rider
Assassin

So who will get what card?

Christian Myers
Christian Myers

Well, no. Her sister was sold by her father to a soul vampire for political gain, raped and defiled by demon insects at eight years old and every day of her life after. Her family abandoned her, her sister was told to forget she existed and enjoys a successful life as a prodigal magus of the Clock Tower, as an apprentice to Zelretch himself. And when her sister finally returned to Fuyuki, she hasn't said so much as a word to her and is actively trying to steal the heart of her senpai, the only boy who brightens her lonely horrific life.
That's probably more what she's thinking about.

William Wood
William Wood

implying her sluttiness comes from the Matou treatment.
It comes from the Tohsaka side, who inherited it from the Edelfelts.
Tokiomi was a manslut that left bastard daughters spread all over the world, and don't be mislead by Rin's aparent purity, her slutty herritage just manifests towards girls instead of boys.

Jayden Martin
Jayden Martin

I want Saber to get incarnated. Really, she's the only character from the main cast of Zero, SN and HA to not be there at all, does Hiroyama just not like her at all or what?

Jacob Lewis
Jacob Lewis

You would think Tohsaka's textbook classic tsundere character arc would be easy to understand for everyone, but more than 10 years after the VN's release, Sakurafags still struggle to get that scene.

Camden Smith
Camden Smith

Having no Saberface around would be kinda fresh t.bh.

Aside from "Alter" in the early part or PrIllya, that is.

Ryder Martinez
Ryder Martinez

I really isn't that hard to explain, Sakura was already wormed by the beginning of the HGW in FZ, so she must also have been in Prisma.
She was probably just adopted by some random folks in town, seeing as she's pretty much as irrelevant as it gets now.
Tokiomi died like in the original, but this time Rin had no Kotomine to teach her, so she just moved to London by middleschool or whatever, and seeing as Sakura was happy with her new family, she must've let it go, as Sakura no longer belonged to the same world as her.

Kevin Collins
Kevin Collins

just manifests towards girls instead of boys.
instead of
not in addition too

Ethan Walker
Ethan Walker

Shirou, please.

David Wright
David Wright

t.bh.
Fuck off.

Kayden Clark
Kayden Clark

Read her H-scene with Saber and read the one with Shirou. If you can't tell the difference in her behavior between those then I suggest you reevaluate your definition of "slut".
Rin is a lesbian that goes straight for Shirou, we've been over this a million times.

Justin Rogers
Justin Rogers

Reminder that you're also losing Illya by doing this.

Dylan Lewis
Dylan Lewis

Really, she's the only character from the main cast of Zero, SN and HA to not be there at all
It's not just her but all others servants as well. Simply because there is no third magic in Miyuverse. Just Gil was able to half-incarnate by thanks to his ego completely overwriting original master of his card. And unless you want "kill" some of heroes by overwriting into servant. Then it probably don't happen. All we probably get is Saber install on someone (most likely Rin).

Ryder Taylor
Ryder Taylor

I want to fuck Taiga from when the sun sets till when it raises.

Dylan Fisher
Dylan Fisher

Saber Install Rin
It's been a while since I last read Prisma so I'm not sure if I missed anything, but where the fuck are you taking this from?

Gavin Cox
Gavin Cox

Cups are simply tools to be discarded when they break.

Ethan Lee
Ethan Lee

Obviously Rin became a heroic spirit and has a class card now, and Saber has been incarnated like Gil, keep up user

Noah Foster
Noah Foster

Saber Install Rin
How the fuck will Rin resist the urge to literally fuck herself?
I mean, give that girl a mirror and she'll spend the rest of her life furiously masturbating.

Parker Jones
Parker Jones

scene isn't unlocked until after you get through UBW
can't access HF without reading it
Sure is optional, secondary.

Sebastian Long
Sebastian Long

Her sister was sold by her father to a soul vampire for political gain
wew even zero secondaries know this is wrong.

Cooper Brooks
Cooper Brooks

Not that guy, but if the game gives you the option to pick between seeing a Rin scene and a Sakura scene then it is technically optional.
It fits the definition of optional perfectly, therefore it is optional.
Now stop replying to obvious bait, dumbass.

Nathan Peterson
Nathan Peterson

Getting tsundere behavior doesn't mean it's excusable behavior. Rin failed as a big sister because she refused to let go of her pride until the very last moment.

Samuel Gonzalez
Samuel Gonzalez

...okay, whatever you say.

David Parker
David Parker

Not that guy, but if the game gives you the option to pick between seeing a Rin scene and a Sakura scene then it is technically optional.
By that logic most scenes in a VN are optional

Jack Diaz
Jack Diaz

KOTOMINE
KIREEEEEEEEEI

Tyler Lee
Tyler Lee

It's optional in the sense that reading all the routes of the VN is "optional", sure. If you pick the Rin scene there, you'll end up in Fate or UBW.

Jordan Collins
Jordan Collins

With latest arc we learned how cards works. And is obvious that Illya and co. will gonna use them against Ainsworths in final battle. So is just question how they divide them between themself. As you can see here . And regarding Saber install Rin. I believe that it will happen simply because somebody would need to deal with Lancelot Sakura. And with this scene is obvious that it gonna be Rin. And there is no more iconic card that she can use against her than Saber card. Hiroyama would be fool if he missed such great chance for double echo of final battles from Zero and Heaven's Feel.

Grayson Cook
Grayson Cook

You would know about that, now wouldn't you?

Gavin Howard
Gavin Howard

Indeed.

Caleb Martinez
Caleb Martinez

excusable behavior
Almost no one in the series has excusable behavior, not even Shirou.
And Sakura is right on the bottom of the list for that, of course.

Henry Morales
Henry Morales

What does Sakura's feet smell like?

Jackson Ward
Jackson Ward

WE can understand Rin's tsundere behavior, but Sakura can't. And let's face it, tsundere or not, that is a horrible (and given the circumstances, stupid) thing to say to someone.

Blake Ross
Blake Ross

Meant for this

Hudson Allen
Hudson Allen

Welp, that flew right over my head, I need to re-read the latest chapters.
Makes sense though, and I'm a little hyped now.

Charles Morris
Charles Morris

Open that folder. NOW

Julian Brown
Julian Brown

Worms.

Adrian Martin
Adrian Martin

At least it's just a scene in their case, and not the entire route.

Evan Long
Evan Long

Killing people is far more horrible than telling your whiny sis that she's being a little cunt over who gets to have a dumb sword guy's dick. It's hypocritical as fuck to judge Rin for that moment of brutal honesty but make up excuses for Sakura's massive crimes.
Most of F/SN characters are huge dicks and psycho criminals, and Rin is Mother Teresa compared to most of them. How about you get over that scene? it's been more than a decade, for fuck's sake.

Brody Ramirez
Brody Ramirez

Regarding card division My guess is following:
Saber - Rin
Lancer - Bazett
Rider - Luvia
Berserker - Illya
Assassin - Miyu

David Flores
David Flores

It wasn't really stupid, she had the upper hand by then.
Actually, it was quite useful to make Sakura even more unstable and keep her from noticing the toll the jewel sword was taking on Rin's body.
Taunting was quite a smart move there.

While I do agree that it was a horrible thing to say, I also think that Sakura needed to hear it, it ultimately helped improve both their characters and their relationships.

Matthew Anderson
Matthew Anderson

Literally being permeated by all evils of the world sounds like a pretty good excuse.

Jaxson Hernandez
Jaxson Hernandez

Luvia
Rider
Not Lancer
Cu is a dog, get it?

Eli Anderson
Eli Anderson

Rider - Luvia
Mama mia.

Joshua Johnson
Joshua Johnson

Luvia
Rider
Rin
Saber
Miyu
Lancer
Illya
Berserker

Dominic Allen
Dominic Allen

Also Ko-Gil will probably install his card on himself and becomes full Gil.

Isaiah Lopez
Isaiah Lopez

massive crimes
being a little cunt over who gets to have a dumb sword guy's dick
See .

Cameron Thomas
Cameron Thomas

I can't imagine that going well for Illya&co.

Isaiah Price
Isaiah Price

Rinfags in charge of not being delusional

Chase Walker
Chase Walker

Sakura didn't do nothing, it was all Angry Manjew
This meme again
Fun thing is, no, it's still not a valid excuse.
Even Schizophrenics, retards and drunks don't get to walk free if they murder several people.

Nicholas Diaz
Nicholas Diaz

How many people has Rin killed again?

Kayden Murphy
Kayden Murphy

SAKURA DINDU NUFFIN SHE A GOOD GIRL

"What are you talking about? You don't need to hide it, Matou Sakura."
The priest denies her.
"W—What do you mean?"
"I said there's no need to hide it. You are not another personality. You were swallowed by the mud and have become addicted to violence, but you are still Matou Sakura. You don't need to prepare another personality to excuse yourself."
Her face stiffens.
He's absolutely right.
The girl grits her teeth and glares back at the priest.
"What are you saying!? You're the one who made me like this…!"
"I won't deny it. I kept you alive so that you would remain its Master. You measured up to my expectations, and you are about to give birth to Avenger. You have easily accomplished what I could not."
"It wasn't easy at all…! You don't know how painful it was, how much pain I'm going through right now…!"
"I don't know, and there's no need to know. I'm not so mad as to listen to a girl's complaint."

Aaron Roberts
Aaron Roberts

Shinji did very little wrong, though.
He presumably hit Sakura a bunch of times and almost rapes her once, that's nothing compared to what Sakura, Saber, Illya and even Shirou have done.

Shinji is a good boy.

Cooper White
Cooper White

Kirei
Reliable
Only the narrator and Sakura herself are reliable. Nice try tho, Fujoshit.

Nolan Gonzalez
Nolan Gonzalez

She kills Berserker once in Fate.
She destroy some golems in UBW.
She mercy kills Shirou in a Fate Bad end.
She let Shirou die by Archer hand in an UBW bad end.
She kills Sakura in 2 HF Bad End.

Brody Hernandez
Brody Hernandez

almost rapes her once
almost
once
user...

John Nelson
John Nelson

Only the narrator and Sakura herself are reliable
Wormfags really can't be more delusional

Luis Butler
Luis Butler

Sakura is worse than shinji

Robert Scott
Robert Scott

raped her many times
almost rapes her only once
It still adds

Joshua Lee
Joshua Lee

Only the narrator and Sakura herself are reliable
And both of them say that Kirei is right.
In that exact segment I quoted.

Andrew Price
Andrew Price

So far, Gil is pretty much neutral.

Blake Jenkins
Blake Jenkins

Gil-kun is neutral.
Gilgamesh isn't.

Oliver Fisher
Oliver Fisher

Good thing Dark Sakura only murdered clear-cut villains.

Nathaniel Wilson
Nathaniel Wilson

Reminder she also had a child with another man when Shirou dies.

Andrew Smith
Andrew Smith

I read that in Liquid Snake's voice.

Jordan Wright
Jordan Wright

It wasn't really stupid, she had the upper hand by then.
And within a few seconds, she lost it, and it would have gone REALLY bad for her had Shirou not killed Saber.
You know what? You're right. It was silly of me to think that comparing your upbringing (which involved training really hard to become a magus) to that of your sister's (which involved horrible abuse and rape) and suggesting that the two are on same level MIGHT be a cunt move.

And who said anything about what Sakura did? I'm not defending what she did after she broke out of the control (before though? I absolutely wouldn't hold her responsible since she's more or less a puppet at that point). My point is that what Rin said to her was completely out of line and I don't blame Sakura for getting angry.

Michael Butler
Michael Butler

Good thing Dark Sakura only murdered clear-cut villains
This meme again
Next you're gonna tell us that she's a virgin and F/Z is not canon, right?

Leo Gonzalez
Leo Gonzalez

If she's such a horrible person and a natural born serial killer, why doesn't she go full murder spree in the other routes, where she's not under the influence of the Manjew?
Even if he didn't alter her personality, he clearly removed all of her restrains.

Jackson Gray
Jackson Gray

So all the times he successfully raped her don't count?

Landon Reed
Landon Reed

Everyone knows she isn't a horrible person. They are just teasing you.

Anthony Morris
Anthony Morris

Stop calling everything a meme it's /v/tier shitposting.

Easton Morris
Easton Morris

They do, but you can still say he ALMOST raped her only once

Brody Jackson
Brody Jackson

Well, the whole point of the route is that all the envy and rage, all the dakr emotions of her dark version come from her, right? So yes, she has a lot defects: she is petty, evious, rancorous, jealous, and she is unable to believe in other people. The whole climax of HF is her that understand that the whole mess is HER fault too, because she was unable to trust her sister and Shirou.

On the other hand, she is not responsable for zoroastrian Satan using her to eat people and accelerate his birth while she was sleeping.

William Baker
William Baker

And within a few seconds, she lost it, and it would have gone REALLY bad for her had Shirou not killed Saber.
Yes, THAT was stupid.
It was also emotional, but you can't call her a bad person for it now, can you?

Nicholas Thompson
Nicholas Thompson

My point is that what Rin said to her was completely out of line and I don't blame Sakura for getting angry
Ohh poor Sakura, Rin hurt her feelings!! let's just feel bad for her and ignore that at that very moment she was making Shirou fight his own servant to the death along with Rider, her own servant.
Yeah, how could Rin be so mean to Sakura?! poor girl wasn't hurting anybody, just throwing a little harmless tantrum and making Imaginary Number friends when Rin came and went full Excalibur on their asses and said mean things to her!

Justin Morales
Justin Morales

So all the times he successfully raped her don't count?
You can't rape the willing. Sakura only refused the last time.
Not to mention a certain user would argue the rape didn't even exist in the first place because RN is the true canon.

Liam Baker
Liam Baker

What do you expect of a Sakura hater? He'll start spouting his bogeyman accusations any second now. He always does when people point out his bull.

Kayden Butler
Kayden Butler

Rin or Sakura?

Isaiah Flores
Isaiah Flores

Gil is pretty much currently in his "I will watch you, amuse me clowns" stand.

Caleb Lee
Caleb Lee

This is getting sad, "guys".
We don't choose what becomes a meme, and something being a meme has nothing to do with it's validity.
Maybe next time try to make your arguments in a less memetic way, ok?

Connor Watson
Connor Watson

Fucking hell, I just realized that I'm defending both Rin and Sakura from their respective retarded haters.
I feel disillusioned.

Rin.

Ryan Moore
Ryan Moore

Lancer class is not very fitting for Luvia. And since Caster card was destroyed, most fitting card for her right now will be Rider.

Colton Stewart
Colton Stewart

Ohmigosh, you're right! I can't believe I thought that Rin being a massive cunt to her dangerously unstable sister by comparing their lives and suggesting they were equivalent was a bad thing!

Seriously, if she'd just said that she didn't have any sympathy, that'd be one thing. I'd call her an idiot, but I wouldn't care. But the fact that she actually had the audacity to claim that she had it just as bad? I'm sorry, but that's where I draw the line.

Julian Hernandez
Julian Hernandez

Sakura only craves a magus' semen, something Shinji can't provide.

Kevin Williams
Kevin Williams

Fair enough. I wouldn't exactly call her a "bad person" or even a bad character, but I wouldn't give her any "good person" points, either.

But then, this is FSN. Nothing and nobody ever really falls into conventional morality, do they?

Easton Smith
Easton Smith

Neither of them.
Sakura is a bad person for different reasons than getting mad at Rin, and Rin is not a bad person for telling her sister the hard truth. You're not obliged to like or respect your siblings, and that doesn't make you a better or worse person.

Nathan Hughes
Nathan Hughes

No, Sakura craves for hot skin, breath, sensation, penis, semen and kind words. Shinji can provide most of those.

Jackson Anderson
Jackson Anderson

Everyone knows there are only three "Good" characters in F/SN

James Phillips
James Phillips

Just have Bazette install Berserker for Godhand and Resurrection rune. Luvia is ok with Lancer for blue skin tight body suit

Kevin Cooper
Kevin Cooper

You do realize Sakura was intending to sacrifice herself to stop the grail until Rin decided to escalate things for no reason by saying she'd kill her, right? They had a plan to save Sakura and all, and yet Rin went and declared war on someone who was trying to save them and wanted them to escape.

Angel Edwards
Angel Edwards

Anime of Shirou and his waifu Illya raising their daughteru Kirei when?

Brandon Long
Brandon Long

Sakura is a bad person
Rin isn't
Telling your sibling that you can't go full murderous grail just because their life sucked is one thing. I can understand that. But telling your sister that your backstories are somehow comparable? That is edging very close to "bad person".
You're not obliged to like or respect your siblings
I can agree on that.
and that doesn't make you a better or worse person.
Depends on how you go about it. Rin actually DOES love her sister, but isn't willing to admit it until she's literally about to stab her. That might not make her a good or bad person necessarily, but it does kind of make her an asshole. Otherwise, Sakura trapping Rin and forcing her to experience her life wouldn't make her a bad person, either.

Dominic Barnes
Dominic Barnes

Implying Shirou isn't the waifu

Caleb Miller
Caleb Miller

She doesn't want Shinji, though.

Gabriel Rivera
Gabriel Rivera

No, that's what Shirou says. Sakura tells him on the first h-scene that only a magus' semen would do.

Asher Wilson
Asher Wilson

implying Illya isn't the waifu

Cameron Cox
Cameron Cox

"Because nothing is my fault."

Right, everyone else is at fault.
She did not wish for such a thing.
It turned out this way because nobody helped her.
Nobody helped her, so that must mean they affirm her.
They didn't object. That's the same as agreeing with her.
No one can punish her.

It's funny how Sakurafags and Sakura are alike.

Christian Sanders
Christian Sanders

Sure thing, /v/-kun.

Evan Gutierrez
Evan Gutierrez

Sakura was intending to sacrifice herself to stop the grail
False. Sakura confessed to Shirou that she could never bring herself to end her life. Why would they trust her twisted dark self saying she will sacrifice herself when Shirou knows for a FACT that Sakura could never do that?
Sakura would have failed.
It was literally impossible to save Sakura and the world without a series of perfectly timed miracles. It took Rin using the Second Magic, Illya using the Third fucking Magic and Shirou basically throwing away his life and using a servant's broken powers to make everything right. And it still was done at the cost of Illya and Saber's life, not to mention Rin and Shirou almost died too.

Daniel Ross
Daniel Ross

cherrypicking the one moment where she gets angry at the irrationality of her situation instead of meekly blaming herself for everything as usual

Liam Jones
Liam Jones

No, that's what Shirou says
How about you read the fucking VN? that scene is from Sakura's own POV, not Shirou's, moron.

Hudson Torres
Hudson Torres

I do think that people who are defending Sakura but calling Rin a bad person should rethink they're position. It's a bit silly to defend Sakura's murder but attack Rin' mean spirited-ness.

Grayson Robinson
Grayson Robinson

She is 100% broken and mentally unstable, but you can hardly blame her for it, the fault lies with those who broke her in the first place.
I'm looking at Tokiomi and Zouken.
I'd look at Shinji too but he doesn't deserve that much credit.

Jonathan Young
Jonathan Young

Sakura would have failed.
Yes. Nobody is disputing that, considering what the grail did just before Shirou used Rule Breaker on her. It still wasn't a good idea to make her become hostile towards them when there clearly was a better way of solving the issue at hand. Sakura wasn't attacking them for the hell of it, but because Rin forced her hand by threatening her.

Nolan Thompson
Nolan Thompson

That is edging very close to "bad person".
All magus are bad people. You need to be a bad person to be a good magus.

Jordan Jackson
Jordan Jackson

best doujins? Doesn't matter if it's sad panda or not

Joseph Wood
Joseph Wood

That's the moment of Anagnorisis, though.
If you knew a little about literature you would understand that's the most revealing and truthful bit of insight we get on Sakura in the whole VN.
Every casual "Sakura blames herself" moment was just her trying to deny her true subconscious feelings.
The Shadow, is actually a Jungian metaphor for Sakura subconsciously blaming everyone for her dark past and wanting to take it out on the people that never helped her when she was being raped and tortured.
So, yes, Sakura does blame everyone but herself, and that's a key point of her character. Without it, everything crumbles and we are left with a distasteful cliche of a character arc.

Adrian Parker
Adrian Parker

Even if that's the case, how does it negate my second point?
She could very well mean Shirou's "hot skin, breath, sensation, penis, semen and kind words" since he's the one with her at the time.

You sound so mad, it's pretty funny really

Ryder James
Ryder James

Sakura had been tortured for 10 years and was in the middle of being corrupted by all evils of the world, all while being in an incredibly confusing and stressful situation. Meanwhile, Rin was just blindly clinging to vague ideals that her dead father had given her, which we had seen her discard without a second thought for Shinji of all people in the previous route. It's pretty clear who had the most reason to behave the way they did.

Oh, and the obvious part where AM=/=Sakura.

Aaron Robinson
Aaron Robinson

You have easily accomplished what I could not."
Of course Kirei you're not a girl you can't have babies

Grayson Stewart
Grayson Stewart

Rin forced her hand by threatening her
This is called blaming the victim.
It's like the abusive husband that blames the wife for the beating she gives her. "look at what you made me do??" "why didn't you shut your mouth?? you know I can't control myself when you talk to me like that!!"

Wyatt Russell
Wyatt Russell

She could very well mean Shirou's
But we don't know that, as far as the scene tells us, it's anyone's.
You sound so mad, it's pretty funny really
I'm mad at you being a secondary, not at the scene or whatever.

Carter James
Carter James

Bullshit about mirrors

Nathaniel Harris
Nathaniel Harris

Kirei
not a girl
How could that be if he's actually best girl?

Brayden Walker
Brayden Walker

She wouldn't be wrong, though. It is quite hypocritical for Rin to ignore all the injustices being done to Sakura, then act all high and mighty about being the law as soon as Sakura does something wrong.

Carter King
Carter King

Attacking someone who's just announced their intent to kill you and made a weapon for that purpose is generally known as self-defense.

Jaxson Evans
Jaxson Evans

Their sucky backgrounds are proportional to their actions.
Rin had a dick father, so she feels it's not a big deal to be a dick to Sakura. And it's actually not.
Sakura had a murderous Grandpa, so she feels like it's not a big deal to murder people. But it actually IS.

Ethan Bailey
Ethan Bailey

Read the VN, secondary.

Logan Ross
Logan Ross

Threatening a confirmed killer that invaded your property is self-defense, the killer attacking you is just her adding to her crimes.

Joseph Lopez
Joseph Lopez

I want to be one of her worms.

Logan Collins
Logan Collins

I already did, but thanks for your advice :)

Sebastian Long
Sebastian Long

I'm not a newfag, I've read the VN forever ago.

And, again, she straight up tells Shirou that her "lewd body craves a magus' semen".
You can't refute that, it's not up for interpretation.

Now, tell me how I'm such a secondary if I've read the scene which we will probably never see outside of the VN.

Jason Stewart
Jason Stewart

Sakura
Reliable
And the narration explicitly says Kirei is right

Parker Peterson
Parker Peterson

she straight up tells Shirou that her "lewd body craves a magus' semen"
That doesn't exclude non-magus semen, though.

Wyatt Ortiz
Wyatt Ortiz

nevermind then

Hudson Perez
Hudson Perez

You know that mental illness can be used in court to change a sentence, right?

Landon Rogers
Landon Rogers

I prefer Rin to Sakura, but both sisters are good.

Taiga is best though

Brody Rivera
Brody Rivera

The narration is told from Kirei's perspective, so it's not reliable.
And yes, who other than Sakura is more fit to tell us how Sakura thinks and feels?
Sakura>Narrator>Rest of the cast>Lying manipulative characters like Kirei and Zouken

Adam Foster
Adam Foster

That doesn't exclude non-magus semen, though.
Who's using semantics now?
We don't know that, as far as the scene tells us, it's a magus'.

Liam Wood
Liam Wood

I said "walk free". With a good lawyer you could be put in a different facility than a prison, or get your sentence reduced, but no serial killer is walking free even if he's completely insane (and Sakura isn't, btw).

Jace Clark
Jace Clark

And yes, who other than Sakura is more fit to tell us how Sakura thinks and feels?
Seeing how she's constantly deceiving herself, anyone.

Jonathan Brooks
Jonathan Brooks

:)
Says it all.

Dylan Cox
Dylan Cox

I'm just playing by your rules, bro.
The kind words scene is still more reliable since it's told from Sakura's POV anyways.

Anthony Morris
Anthony Morris

no serial killer is walking free even if he's completely insane
He just gets thrown into the loony bin for life.
and Sakura isn't, btw
She is, btw.

Jaxson Hughes
Jaxson Hughes

greentexting
Says it all.

Austin Johnson
Austin Johnson

You do realize magi are free to kill eachother, particularly in a grail war, right? Because she only killed people involved in it, and that's before we get into what they had done. You might as well call Shirou in Fate a murderer for killing Kotomine.

Brayden Ramirez
Brayden Ramirez

itadakimasu!

Robert Wood
Robert Wood

He just gets thrown into the loony bin for life
Depends on the country and the state, and how the lawyer performed, among many other thing. He could get a death penalty too.
She is, btw.
No, the insanity is just a façade. Kirei says Dark Sakura is still Matou Sakura despite how much she tries to hide it.
And the narrator confirms: "he's absolutely right."

Parker Gonzalez
Parker Gonzalez

Taiga is a big girl.

Jaxon Hernandez
Jaxon Hernandez

Saved.

Luis Harris
Luis Harris

Just more of her to love. With vigor.

Matthew Mitchell
Matthew Mitchell

and she knew the reason why

Tyler Hernandez
Tyler Hernandez

I'm just playing by your rules
Glad to know you're not even trying to argue then.

But let's say you're right, for argument's sake.
Then at that moment, and only that specific moment, when her brain is turned to mush, she's craving anyone's "etc, etc, kind words".
Then again, on the first h-scene, when she's still with a clear mind, she straight up tells Shirou that her "lewd body craves a magus' semen".
Now tell me again which is the most reliable of the two scenes.

Nathan Mitchell
Nathan Mitchell

Well she always was. Just Ufotable is first studio that actually corectly portray girls' sizes.

Bentley Williams
Bentley Williams

Depends on the country and the state, and how the lawyer performed, among many other thing. He could get a death penalty too.
There's no way to be objective here then.

No, the insanity is just a façade. Kirei says Dark Sakura is still Matou Sakura despite how much she tries to hide it.
Sakura has been insane and broken since she was a small child, due to all the abuse she suffered.
The Manjew only removed her restrains.

Mason Garcia
Mason Garcia

Her brain is also turning into mush in the H-scenes, that's why she comes visit Shirou to get her fix of dick and semen and kind words.
When the worms get hungry she always loses her mind.

Chase Gray
Chase Gray

I want that clock.

Colton Russell
Colton Russell

Judging from the sprites, I would have never guessed she packing a chest to rival Sakura's.

Kevin Perry
Kevin Perry

If you look at Sakura's sprite you'll notice that they don't rival her own size description either.

Daniel Myers
Daniel Myers

There's no way to be objective here then.
Bottom line, a serial killer never walks free, regardless of the severity of his sentence.

Sakura has been insane and broken since she was a small child
Wow, this one is new. But no, traumas, social anxiety, sexual disorders, repressed memories and shit like that are not on the same league than proper insanity. You can't be ruled insane because you had a shit-tier childhood. Sakura had reasoning, a conscience, and even a somewhat normal morality, she was not insane before HF. And she wasn't during it either, at least not permanently.

Carter Campbell
Carter Campbell

On the first h-scene, before they even had sex, when she tells him about craving a magus' semen, she's clearly far more level headed then here .
She's only starting to go into lust mode there, while on the image she's with lust mode at its peak.

Jonathan Wright
Jonathan Wright

I'm just not seeing it.

Gabriel Martin
Gabriel Martin

she's clearly far more level headed then here
Debatable.
But still, Sakura talking to Shirou is less reliable than Sakura's own mind. Sakura could have lied, or been telling a partial truth.
The source itself is of a higher authority in the kind words scene. It's a whole different tier, even if you subjectively think she was "more level headed" in the H-scene.

Eli Cruz
Eli Cruz

Bottom line, a serial killer never walks free, regardless of the severity of his sentence.
Sure, but the people who are "in treatment", however long that may be, are fundamentally different from the ones who goes to the death row.

But no, traumas, social anxiety, sexual disorders, repressed memories and shit like that are not on the same league than proper insanity.
Mental instability caused by a strong trauma is already enough. PTSD gets thrown around a lot because of it.

Cameron Thompson
Cameron Thompson

BB hijack time is now!

Ryan Baker
Ryan Baker

Debatable.
But still, Sakura talking to Shirou is less reliable than Sakura's own mind.
Not in this case. See
She's only starting to go into lust mode there, while on the image she's with lust mode at its peak.
That's not subjective.

Tyler Torres
Tyler Torres

Your point is moot either way, since mage morality is completely different from regular laws, making the people Dark Sakura killed completely fair game, since they participated in a mage battle royale.The shadow is a completely different matter too, since that's more like someone breaking into your car while you're sleeping in it and using it to kill people.

Owen Allen
Owen Allen

Would she be a good partner for fishing?

Jason King
Jason King

Hell yeah, she can even provide the worms for bait

Christopher Perez
Christopher Perez

Stop talking about worst girl in the franchise and start talking about best girl in the franchise!

Kayden Long
Kayden Long

I call it arturia syndrome. Where every clone is better than the original

Connor Wright
Connor Wright

Saber? More like

GAYBAR

James Wood
James Wood

Wait, did the memes just went full circle?

Zachary Cruz
Zachary Cruz

Taiga's taigas really are inconsistent.

Juan Jackson
Juan Jackson

Taiga is consistently a best.

Jaxson Morgan
Jaxson Morgan

mage morality is completely different from regular laws, making the people Dark Sakura killed completely fair game
We're talking actual morality here. Are you so autistic that you think when people say "Sakura is a horrible person because she kills people and hurts her senpai" they are thinking with a fantasy mage's morality in mind?
Have some common sense, retard. When people judge Sakura or any other character ever as bad, they are doing so from their own real life morality.
It doesn't matter if magi think it's OK to kill, it's actually not. If you self insert as an asshole magus while reading, you're doing it wrong.

Juan Baker
Juan Baker

If you self insert as an asshole magus while reading, you're doing it wrong.
Is that why Sakurafags like murder so much and are obsessed with Sakura being pure and perfect?
It all makes so much sense now...

Parker Roberts
Parker Roberts

If that's the reason they fail even at that
Sakura is utter shit at being magus

Jace Garcia
Jace Garcia

not self inserting as Kirei

Adrian Stewart
Adrian Stewart

Saber a shit
Sakura a shit
Rin a shit

Fish is best girl

Isaiah Perez
Isaiah Perez

That she is.

Nathan Parker
Nathan Parker

moral objectivism
Is there such a thing as a non-asshole magus?

Christian Green
Christian Green

Rin.

Austin Miller
Austin Miller

Takeuchi was not good at drawing breasts back them.

Isaac Myers
Isaac Myers

Rinfish>Illyafish>Sakurafish>>>>>Gilfish

Thomas Roberts
Thomas Roberts

Acording to Nasu, she is bigger than Saber, but smaller than Rider in terms of sizes.

Colton Perry
Colton Perry

Sakura is hardly pure and perfect, nor she is blameless.
Still, faggots keep pushing everything bad that happens in the route on her back, when that's far from being the case.

tl;dr: Both Sakura haters and Sakurafags are retards. Same applies to Rin.

Hudson Hernandez
Hudson Hernandez

bigger than Saber, but smaller than Rider
That's a big fucking gap.

Evan Carter
Evan Carter

He's still pretty poor at it, since he has to resort to boob socks.

Dylan Murphy
Dylan Murphy

Why is there so little Taiga porn lads? Genuinely curious.

Angel Lewis
Angel Lewis

Japs don't like her.
It's as simple as that.

Joshua Turner
Joshua Turner

Fucking Japs.

Owen Phillips
Owen Phillips

For the same reason she has no porn

Carter Wright
Carter Wright

Literally fucking who?

Julian Collins
Julian Collins

Two nukes weren't enough

Ayden Edwards
Ayden Edwards

One of nicest characters
She can also see the future
Also her mini story in Plus-Disc is pretty good

Dylan Rivera
Dylan Rivera

Indeed, we need more nukes to turn them into loving tentacle monsters.

Sounds pretty good, but man, compared to Taiga, I don't know.

Jason Perry
Jason Perry

Still, faggots keep pushing everything bad that happens in the route on her back
Who did anything like this?
Did you see anyone here blame her for Caster and Kuzuki's death? blame her for Lancer's death? For Sasaki's death? for Saber's death?
Nah, this is a huge strawman. People only blame Sakura for her own crimes, some pin more murders on her than others, but that's as far as it goes. No one blames her for anything she was not involved in, and certainly no one fucking blames her for "everything bad that happens in the route".
This is a huge fallacy pushed just to undermine the veracity of the non-Sakurafag arguments.

Owen Richardson
Owen Richardson

I think that was pretty much intention.

Jackson Peterson
Jackson Peterson

Do I really need to put a huge "FIGURATIVELY SPEAKING" sign on my post?

Anyway, what I meant is that Sakurahaters blame all those things on her alone, when she's clearly not the only one to be blamed in those situations.
I'm not saying she's blameless herself, but at the very least she's as much of a victim as a perpetrator, and yet she's the one who is crucified alone.
Of course, It's equally retarded for Sakurafags to think that "realta nua is the canon hurr" and such, but I'd rather thinks of these posts as ironic shitposting at this point.

The same is true for Rin, haters give her a hard time for what I believe is her best scene in the whole VN, while Rinfags rid her of any blame or flaw of character she could possibly have.

Levi Mitchell
Levi Mitchell

Sakura on the front page!

Sebastian Peterson
Sebastian Peterson

Shut up you tasteless fagget.

Zachary Hall
Zachary Hall

Has ever Shitaya voiced full yandere character? (not counting Kyouko from Kore wa Zombie)

Alexander Torres
Alexander Torres

what I meant is that Sakurahaters blame all those things on her alone
Another fallacy.
Rinfags rid her of any blame or flaw of character she could possibly have
Yet another fallacy.

Seems like you built an internal image of how a Sakura hater or a Rinfag behaves in your mind based on some random anecdotal evidence you cherrypicked from several threads and now you spout that opinion you formulated as if it was the truth.
No, most "Sakura haters" don't blame Sakura alone, and no one here has done so, and Rinfags are the first ones that will correct you if you seriously claim she has no flaws (AKA she's a Mary Sue).

Justin Peterson
Justin Peterson

Shitaya

SHITaya? seriously? Is that her real name or a pun?
Either way, it's a very fitting name considering the character she voices.

David Price
David Price

I spent most of this thread replying to Sakura and Rin haters, if you actually took your time to read it you'd know what I'm talking about.

James Evans
James Evans

Sakura is kill infront a Shinji, turned into a Berserk Doll, and Shinji will need to be put her down with his own hands.
Literally the best end possible. Thank you fate/kaleid

Colton Wright
Colton Wright

Show me some Sakura haters that claimed Sakura alone was to blame for all the shit in HF, or some Rinfags that claimed Rin is a flawless character. Because I've read the whole thread and I didn't see any of those.
You're just assuming the people you argued with are like that, but they didn't actually claim any of those things I just mentioned.

Julian Cox
Julian Cox

Are Sakurafags seriously ditching VN Sakura for fucking Prisma Sakura of all things?

In the end the character development and personality didn't matter, they saw a chance of getting a (presumably) worm-free Sakura and they threw away their waifu in a heartbeat.

This is fucking sad, really.

Connor Thomas
Connor Thomas

The same could be said about Rinfags in Prisma, couldn't it?

Brody Rivera
Brody Rivera

Sakurafags will be pleased by more Sakura
What a mystery indeed.

Jace Watson
Jace Watson

Rinfags ditching VN Rin for Prisma Rin just because Prisma Rin is worm-free?
That doesn't make any sense.

Liam Morris
Liam Morris

Prisma is basically just Rin. There's like, not substantial difference between the two in terms of personality, really.

Like, maybe Rin's a bit more exaggerated to fit some of the comedy? But that's kind of stretching it.

VN Rin and Prisma Rin are pretty much the same character in my book in a lot of ways.

Isaiah Martinez
Isaiah Martinez

Kotomine best girl.

Dylan Moore
Dylan Moore

See and the reply chain.
It's all a clusterfuck, but nothing unusual in these threads.

There's a guy comparing Rin to Mother Teresa, a guy saying Shinji did nothing wrong for her sake, a guy passing everything Sakura did as a "tantrum", etc etc.

And I wasn't even halfway through the thread.
I didn't really want to look back >300 posts just for this, but I did anyway, and it wasn't even hard.
Apply yourself next time. But I suppose it's your win since I ended up doing your work for you.

Ryder Wilson
Ryder Wilson

I would like to know as well

Jordan Nguyen
Jordan Nguyen

bro is this legal in america

Angel Edwards
Angel Edwards

Nah, Rin in Prisma is about the same as VN Rin as Prisma Sakura is VN Sakura.
Just because they have similar personalities, the character development is still not there.

But it all boils down to this really You see your waifu somewhere, be it a spin off or whatever, and she's just the same to you.
Even if they take a huge dump on her, waifufags will still feel bad and blame the author.
And on Sakura's case is even more understandable because so far she's really the Sakura from the VN but without the bad parts.

Hunter Martinez
Hunter Martinez

What a heartless bitch
that alone is a dead giveaway he was baiting

There's a guy comparing Rin to Mother Teresa
Yes, next to most magi, which is a valid point. Rin is too kind to be a proper magus.

a guy saying Shinji did nothing wrong
Do you also believe people that say Hitler did nothing wrong to be dead serious?

a guy passing everything Sakura did as a "tantrum"
Which is different from blaming her alone for all the shit in HF

Sounds to me like
a) your troll detector is broken, because some of the things you just mentioned were obvious bait, and
b) you're bending people's statements or taking them out of context to fit your viewpoint.
Sadly, none of those examples were actually solid, and some of them didn't even relate to your point at all.

Anthony Diaz
Anthony Diaz

she's really the Sakura from the VN but without the bad parts
Disgusting.
Sakurafags are ditching a decent character for a "flawless" idealized version of her. Why can't they love their waifu as she is?
The same shit happened with BB a couple years ago. We lost a great deal of Sakurafags to a fucking AI with her looks mixed with Rider's.

Gabriel Allen
Gabriel Allen

You really need to get better bait.

Josiah Russell
Josiah Russell

But I like her being a wormslut?

Kayden Richardson
Kayden Richardson

Ok, the last part was bait, I confess. But I seriously don't know if her name is Shitaya.

Parker Lee
Parker Lee

What a heartless bitch
that alone is a dead giveaway he was baiting
I replied this post because it's the origin of the shitshow, not that it was relevant itself.

Yes, next to most magi, which is a valid point. Rin is too kind to be a proper magus.
Really? Mother Theresa? That's way over "too kind" mate.

a guy saying Shinji did nothing wrong
Do you also believe people that say Hitler did nothing wrong to be dead serious?
He was comparing Shinji's effects in the HGW as far as I got it, but ok, even if ironic shitposting is still shitposting, let's gloss this one over.

a guy passing everything Sakura did as a "tantrum"
Which is different from blaming her alone for all the shit in HF
To me it sounds like you didn't even read the post or maybe everything has to be told to you in absolute literal form for your understanding.
He absolutely ignored everything that made Sakura the way she was and passed it off as a mere "tantrum", which is pretty much blaming her alone for what was happening.

I already did your work for you just by looking these posts up, try it yourself now.
You have over half the thread to enjoy.

Andrew Barnes
Andrew Barnes

Some hijack

Caleb Lee
Caleb Lee

(presumably) worm-free
Are you dense, user?
She's still a Matou, she still got wormed.
The purple hair and flat eyes should have clued you in on that.

Christian James
Christian James

GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW

Levi Watson
Levi Watson

Who's "ditching" VN Sakura here?
It's just a different flavor to the mix, like Rin, Saber, Illya, Shirou, etc.
It's like a different flavor of your favourite cookie brand or something.

And about BB, as far as I can tell, a lot of people who actually hated Sakura ended up liking BB, so they didn't left the waifubase.
I see a lot of posts calling BB "the only good Sakura" or "that Sakura isn't shit tho", stuff like that.

That's my take on it anyway.
I'm not even a Sakurafag fyi

Isaiah Garcia
Isaiah Garcia

which is pretty much blaming her alone for what was happening
This is you putting words in his mouth.
You need to take arguments for what they are, this is an anonymous board. You don't know the people here, so you can't guess how they think just by reading a few lines that don't even directly address your own point of view.
And you also need to read things in context, that's how you can tell when someone's baiting you or when a statement is actually not exaggerated, like the mother Theresa one.
If you grab that one out of context, yes, it sounds way too kind, but if you compare Rin to magi like Zouken, Kirei, Medea's Master, Kariya, her Father, among many, many others, then yes, she's too fucking kind (and that's actually a negative in F/SN's world). She struggles and fails to kill in a scenario where she's completely free and encouraged to do so, she saves her enemies lives and doesn't use lethal force when she doesn't want to save them, she doesn't have selfish reasons to use the Grail, etc.

Xavier King
Xavier King

Honestly, since I know there's zero chance of Prisma Rin winning the Shiroubowl I've changed direction and am hoping that she starts playing for the Luvia Cup instead.

Gavin Stewart
Gavin Stewart

since I know there's zero chance of Prisma Rin winning the Shiroubowl

What are you talking about? She's got the Illya-Shirou in the bag.

Jace Morales
Jace Morales

She seems so stuck on herself. If she wasn't so self centered I'd probably give her a chance.

Cooper Fisher
Cooper Fisher

She already won a Shirou, and Luvia has been playing the Rinbowl for years already.

Noah Walker
Noah Walker

looks good in red clothing

Rin x Luvia confirmed.

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N

Suck it, Saberfags.

Hudson Brown
Hudson Brown

Sakura
I'm such an Idiot, even though I have such a great body.

Blake Gutierrez
Blake Gutierrez

Sakura
I'll handle this myself because I'm beautiful, brave and devoted.

Lucas Rodriguez
Lucas Rodriguez

Sakura
you were so kind and I was so cute.

Brayden Rodriguez
Brayden Rodriguez

no picture
You blew it.

Cooper Martin
Cooper Martin

Sakura
what are you doing rider! Nii San made me look good because he was such a loser!

Leo Hughes
Leo Hughes

Should just post a Yanagi doujin instead.

James Parker
James Parker

Sakura
it's my fault, it's because I'm a beautiful ill fated girl.

Jaxon White
Jaxon White

Is there a more vile, despicable, hateful character in anime, than Sakura "Wormslut" Matou?

I don't think so!

Ryan Richardson
Ryan Richardson

Sakura girl of destiny. Nobody knows what's in her heart.

Charles Williams
Charles Williams

This is you putting words in his mouth.
That's me putting it in context.

Speaking of context, my whole point from the beginning (in case you didn't notice) was to point out the particularily annoying waifuwars behaviors from these threads in general, and when a post calls Sakura a "whiny sis" and "little cunt" while comparing Rin to Mother Theresa, the subtext is pretty clear, even if he has a valid point (which I also agree, mind you).

The bottom line really is that I found myself defending both sides because they were overly faulting each other's girls.
These threads were always like this, like most anime, but it's been a while since I last took my time to stay and spend some time discussing like this (probably because the animefags are probably clearing out now).

Anyway, I'm gonna stop here or we will discuss semantics till sunrise, and unfortunately I don't have that kind of time.
It was fun though, goodnight user.

Eli James
Eli James

I still love her.

Gavin Hall
Gavin Hall

When is Hiroyama going to draw a sexy pinup of Sakura?

Asher Lee
Asher Lee

Luvia

is a loser

Losia

Nolan Allen
Nolan Allen

This is from CP,.
Do I win something for guessing it right?
Do I get a night with Sakura or something?

Liam Bailey
Liam Bailey

Who the fuck cares?
Luviafags are so rare you probably only get this (you) and nothing more.

Jeremiah Moore
Jeremiah Moore

There was a Luvia thread up the other day that lasted over 24 hours.

Elijah Nguyen
Elijah Nguyen

You win for being a good type moon fan although it's something fans of type moon should have all seen already anyways.

Christian White
Christian White

If you want to see Sakura be especially conceded it's ep6

Ryan Rogers
Ryan Rogers

It probably just Rin posting with love.

Luis Bennett
Luis Bennett

Conceded
I think you meant conceited, although both technically work since she is submissive as well as intentionally unaware of her arrogance of assuming she isn't to blame for anything.

Nicholas Hill
Nicholas Hill

Worms will be worms.

Mason Mitchell
Mason Mitchell

Why the fixation with Rin's ass?
Seriously, I've never seen a character with an ass (and anus) that memetic.

Carter Edwards
Carter Edwards

What about Aqua from Konosuba?

Lucas Hall
Lucas Hall

Because
Rin = heroine of the ass
Sakura = heroine of the chest
Saber = heroine of the waist

Robert Mitchell
Robert Mitchell

Where do the Extra/CCC girls fall under?

Jayden Garcia
Jayden Garcia

Konosuba is too freaking new.
Fate is almost as old as this site itself.

Brayden Jones
Brayden Jones

Heroines of the shit, every single one of them.

Benjamin Wright
Benjamin Wright

Did didn't say anything about how old the anime were? You just wanted a character with a meme ass?

Easton King
Easton King

I didn't want nothing. I said I never saw a character with a more memetic ass.

Daniel Rivera
Daniel Rivera

They are the shit, I agree

Nathaniel Cook
Nathaniel Cook

Well there you go. Aqua.

Jonathan Reyes
Jonathan Reyes

Sorry, doesn't ring a bell.

Nicholas Edwards
Nicholas Edwards

It's not very old so I'm not surprised you've not heard of it. Give it a try sometime as it's actually pretty good in my opinion. It's Konosuba.

Jace Lopez
Jace Lopez

studio: studio DEEN

You're fucking evil, Kyoko, using the power of ass to trick me into watching DEEN's garbage.
Almost got me there.

6/10 made me reply and research.

Alexander Murphy
Alexander Murphy

Don't judge anime before you at least try them. You might be missing out on anime you might actually enjoy.

Jace Campbell
Jace Campbell

DEEN
magical fantasy
MC enters a game
Harem

Guess what, it's good

Zachary Jenkins
Zachary Jenkins

director goes full retard: the episode

David Rogers
David Rogers

People only blame Sakura for her own crimes
Actually, several of them seem to be blaming her for Angra Mainyu's crimes.

Ryan Thompson
Ryan Thompson

And Zouken's.

Gavin Fisher
Gavin Fisher

If the Dick Magic existed, she'd probably get knocked up by Luvia.

Nathaniel Wilson
Nathaniel Wilson

Don't be an idiot, a mindless unborn fetus can't commit a crime.

Aiden Wood
Aiden Wood

It's called assisted fertilization.
Don't you know that poor magi sell their semen to the association?
Luvia can buy some, and use one of those dildos than can cum to impregnate Rin.

Sebastian Bailey
Sebastian Bailey

If the Dick Magic existed
But it does. Ask Saber.

Hudson Price
Hudson Price

Go to bed, Kirei.

Joseph Phillips
Joseph Phillips

This is an official illustration.

Henry Cook
Henry Cook

And there's also the official audio, which is pure ear sex to me.

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