Which design do you prefer?

Brayden Williams
Brayden Williams

Which design do you prefer?

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Levi Mitchell
Levi Mitchell

S1 > S2
S2 > S1
S2 > S1
Everything aside from designs: S1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> S2

Daniel Smith
Daniel Smith

S1 is easily superior

Lucas Smith
Lucas Smith

S1 Saika is godness

Landon Perry
Landon Perry

ponkan8 > all other official artwork
sometimes ponpon > ponkan8

Charles Rivera
Charles Rivera

Novel.

Mason Hill
Mason Hill

all s2 except yuigahama she needs s1 tits

Nathaniel Walker
Nathaniel Walker

Of course 1st. Hand drawn are always superior than digital images

Matthew Rivera
Matthew Rivera

Reminder to accept no less than a threesome end.

I like both. Can't decide.

Christian Nguyen
Christian Nguyen

I like both, but ultimately prefer season 2. Season 1 feels a little simplistic and the animation quality/design is often very mediocre. Season 2 has a difficult time pulling off Yukino's typical facial expression shown in the s1 picture, which may in part be due to character development, it's nice that we see her smile far more often now though.
This guy knows what's up, we haven't really seen Yui's rack up close in season 2 as far as I can recall, but they seem smaller.

James Cooper
James Cooper

Yeah, I'm not sure why she got downgraded.

Yukinon's are perfect as always: modest, but not flat.

Grayson Allen
Grayson Allen

I don't like the facial close-ups in S2 at all, like a kid's drawing

Camden Edwards
Camden Edwards

the main series ending is clear. Yukino is conflicted on her lesbian love of Yui and straight love of Hachiman. She really wants to be the girlfriend of both. Hachiman also has a certain amount of the bi going on with Totsuka. Clearly the four-way Yui-Yukino-Hachiman-Totsuka path is the correct one

Levi Turner
Levi Turner

Novels is best

Adam Bell
Adam Bell

i like the girl that says senpai

Dominic Flores
Dominic Flores

S2 by far. Brain's Base's looks so cheap it's not even funny

Chase Reed
Chase Reed

S2 are too samefacey

Hudson Harris
Hudson Harris

Girls that says senpai or death!

Christian Murphy
Christian Murphy

The worst part is that the only scenes that resembled S1 were the ones without Yui or Yukino, so I started dreading their presence Pavlov style.

Joseph Walker
Joseph Walker

Yuki is a Lesbian? Hello? Say what? I am pretty sure 8mans attraction to Totsuka is just a gag.. you know that right?

Tyler Bell
Tyler Bell

Good choice.
Yukino and Yui designs from S1 were superior.

Jason Diaz
Jason Diaz

best girl

Camden White
Camden White

Everything aside from designs: S1 > S2
NOPE
Irohasu is love

William Cooper
William Cooper

My Landmine Kouhai is Dangerous as Expected

Oliver Foster
Oliver Foster

S2 Yukino is utter shit. You must be blind and retarded if you think S2 is better.

Anthony Gomez
Anthony Gomez

Yukinon 1 and 2's designs are basically the same. Why is the latter so bad?

Ryan Sanders
Ryan Sanders

S2 8man is too handsome

Juan Johnson
Juan Johnson

I'm going to say S1 simply because of bias. S2 took a scene I cried at in the light novel and made it solely awkward. Not to mention S2 has weird adaptation decisions where some books only got a small portion of time compared to the others. The Hayato Science/Arts fiasco in particular got, what, a single episode? Where as it was an entire novel to begin with. S1 just had better decisions and impact all around.

Jackson Brooks
Jackson Brooks

Hayamin character quadruple-album
bonus disk: her talking in character for an hour
Soon.

Okay, never.

William Sanchez
William Sanchez

Hikki looks better (or at least more believable as a loser) in Season 1. When it comes to the other characters, both designs are fine.
In terms of plot, the first season shits all over the second though. The only good thing that happened in the second season was Iroha.

Kayden Ross
Kayden Ross

Post Accelerator

Juan Allen
Juan Allen

S1 Hachiman actually looks like an unfriendly faggot. S1 Hachiman wins no contest.

Dylan Adams
Dylan Adams

unfriendly
So, an accurate representation.

Granted, season 2 made him look somewhat attractive but creepy, which is how he is described.

Jaxson Cooper
Jaxson Cooper

why did I like this anime

Christopher Morris
Christopher Morris

Because it takes generic high school rom com situations and adds biting cynicism in place of where the idealism is supposed to be. However it manages to do that without being moody and unbearable to sit through.

Gabriel Gutierrez
Gabriel Gutierrez

moody and unbearable to sit through
The sequel had a lot of great character interaction, but the whole GENUINE bit is exactly as you describe.

Kevin Thompson
Kevin Thompson

Komachi looked better in season 1

Not really, it's the same school life "teenagers learning to stop being antisocial spergs" with the usual trope of everyone falling for the MC as most other shows of this type. Yahari's nothing particularly special.

Carter Nguyen
Carter Nguyen

Hachiman has commented several times on their "slightly unhealthy Yuru-Yuri relationship"

Camden Wright
Camden Wright

And that's why I FUCKING HATE it in the anime. The light novel made me tear up, legit. After Hikki tries his best to save his club and gets kicked in the balls at the end when he find out that even if they were in the council they still would have been the same club in spirit, and finds his club slowly drifting apart as Iroha drags him around like a dog, the pent up frustration and anguish going in there, as well as the fact he has trouble finding the words and everyone is sobbing even before he finishes that thing he can't describe, is really touching in the novels.
In the anime it's a cringe scene.
imo and all that.

Jaxon Long
Jaxon Long

Saika-chan in the lower right?

Oliver Turner
Oliver Turner

Nah, it's Sagami, as the Hair is too dark for Totsuka

Sebastian Howard
Sebastian Howard

no Saika
It's shit.

Sebastian Young
Sebastian Young

Source? I've found the image but can't find the artist.

Joshua Flores
Joshua Flores

Yui won the Hikki bowl already. Yukino helped her do it too, willingly.

Bentley Lee
Bentley Lee

S2 8man looks more like you'd expect a guy with at least four attractive girls interested in him to look like.

Colton Reyes
Colton Reyes

He looks hot to me. Way too much so.

Juan Lewis
Juan Lewis

He doesn't realize all of ANOTHER is a fevered fantasy that runs through Yui's mind just before the rope breaks her neck so that she can die with a smile on her face

Jeremiah King
Jeremiah King

four attractive girls
Wait. Who? I count 3 at most. Yui, Yukino, and Iroha if you count him as being second choice being "interested".

Brandon Garcia
Brandon Garcia

It's clear that Saki is at least interested, even if she's not pursuing him very hard.

Nolan Smith
Nolan Smith

no the two loners already have friends and acquaintances now. Guess again what the prime issue is. OreGairu NOT typical

Camden Taylor
Camden Taylor

Saki, orimoto, sensei, yuimom, yukimom, everyone wants the 8inch

Jaxon Diaz
Jaxon Diaz

I see. I'm not sure I completely agree but I can see where you're coming from there. She seems like the type who would tell herself she was "too busy" for anything like that though.

Juan Long
Juan Long

I thought it was pretty clear during the chocolate making scene and afterwards.

Caleb Stewart
Caleb Stewart

It's been a while since I've seen/read it admittedly. After S2 ended I stepped back from it, so I could easily be forgetting all her signs and flags as she isn't exactly a major character.

Joshua Baker
Joshua Baker

Nice try Yukinocuck. Yui won and Yukino helped her proving that she doesn't like him to begin with. She got her happy friendship end. Yui will win again in the main series.

Benjamin Davis
Benjamin Davis

Why does 8man get so fucking handsome in between s1 and s2?

Jack Turner
Jack Turner

She got her happy friendship end
Comical

Yui will win again in the main series
Don't stop believin'

Jack Hill
Jack Hill

S1 >*

because
Love Comedy

Jack Gomez
Jack Gomez

S1 for everything, why did this even get a second season

Dominic Edwards
Dominic Edwards

Comical
???

She helped Yui and is much better friends with her now. Hikki can become her friend too.

Daniel Miller
Daniel Miller

It's highly likely Yuipollfag. Don't respond to him.

Dylan Young
Dylan Young

I probably co't help but think about this webm when I eventually watch the Mad Max movies.

Gavin Anderson
Gavin Anderson

Yuifag here. I am very worried that WW is taking so long with vol 12 and that Yui won the AU. I am still pissed that he made Yui seem like a Hikki hungry girl that would step on her friend's throat.

Austin Gonzalez
Austin Gonzalez

I like both

Dylan Nguyen
Dylan Nguyen

I'm out of the loop. What is this AU that's being mentioned?

Kevin Howard
Kevin Howard

ANOTHER. Yui wins and Yukino helps her but swallows her feelings while doing so.

Lucas Hill
Lucas Hill

it's a bone Watari threw the Yuifags where all of a sudden Hachiman doesn't care about Yukino any more and other characters start acting weird in freaky unnatural way. Under those conditions Yui can win apparently. Has nothing to do with OreGairu other than same names so don't bother with it

Evan Roberts
Evan Roberts

That's the natural pain of two friends loving and going for same guy. It's a part of life, deal with it. Yukino will step on Yui's feelings and heart in the main series, watch for it

Jeremiah Roberts
Jeremiah Roberts

Yukino wasn't even going for 8man. She just ran away and decided to hide herself and her feelings.

Grayson Thomas
Grayson Thomas

>responding to bait

Gabriel Parker
Gabriel Parker

No. Sadly, it wasn't bait. I'm really that clueless.

Easton Bell
Easton Bell

after the ending of vol 11/S2 that is going to change. Yukino will go for what she wants in life and that includes Hachiman. Yui will make a noble attempt too but will be crushed it is clear

Nicholas Evans
Nicholas Evans

HIRATSUKA-SENSEI ON THE FRONT PAGE!!!

Camden Kelly
Camden Kelly

Yukino is conflicted on her lesbian love of Yui
source: my delusional yurifag headcanon
Kill yourself.

Wyatt Martin
Wyatt Martin

I quoted the main series canon

You're the one ignoring all the canon evidence in the main series. Your head is superfluous, best get rid of it

Jonathan Miller
Jonathan Miller

Yes, I had to go through a few hoops myself, but the full resolution was worth it.

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It's seems to be neither on the danbooru, nor on his pixiv.

William Evans
William Evans

Speaking as a nonwatcher, S2 Yukino looks terrible in almost every picture I've seen. The others look okay either way.

Benjamin Edwards
Benjamin Edwards

In retrospect, both fit for what they are. S1 is more comedic and lighthearted, while S2 is where all the heavy stuff happens.

I wouldn't want Hachiman's famous line from S2 with the season 1 character designs and art design, it just wouldn't hit as hard.

Gavin Lee
Gavin Lee

it didn't really hit hard in the first place anyway, honestly the character animation in S2 looks more fluid but very awkward some times.

Josiah Davis
Josiah Davis

When you bust a mut inside Sensei

Adam Campbell
Adam Campbell

"Senpaiii~, I'm lying on your bed, what are you going to do about it?"

Elijah Anderson
Elijah Anderson

Ignore you and go for someone that isn't a slut.

Tyler Barnes
Tyler Barnes

Grab my gun and shoot the hussy for home invading.

Landon Hill
Landon Hill

I learned my lesson the last time you cut a hole in the condom. Now I lose 1/4 of every paycheck.

William Reyes
William Reyes

http://i.imgur.com/984gGoM.jpg

Nathaniel Flores
Nathaniel Flores

It's Yui that is Yurigahama not Yukinon

Camden Jackson
Camden Jackson

In spite of everything else, Light Novel Hikigaya is definitely the worst. He's 18 in some illustrations and other times he's 10.

Easton Myers
Easton Myers

So say Hachiman rejects Yui, friendzones Iroha, then goes all in for Yukino. Yukino overcomes all her issues, is completely better, but then rejects Hachiman because she's leaving and can't be with him, leaving him devastated, will Haruno feel a tiny shred of sympathy for him?

Does she care about the tool in her hand to fix Yukino after the job is done? Or does she just callously cast the tool aside?

Luke Hughes
Luke Hughes

Haruno doesn't care about Hachiman. She only cares about him as long as he interacts with Yukino.

Zachary Anderson
Zachary Anderson

I like pity-sex as this is the only way i can fuck other than criminal acts

Michael Jackson
Michael Jackson

She wouldn't give a fuck.But that's fine because Hachiman would do something ridiculous and potentially self-destructive to out-plan her if it came to that.

Robert Hughes
Robert Hughes

S1 is self-insert tier.
Middle is superior.

Thomas Brown
Thomas Brown

I think Yukino and Haruno suffered the most from the design change. They're still decent but I vastly prefer S1. Everyone else improved.

Jordan Allen
Jordan Allen

I agree. Although I'm not as bothered by S2 Yukino as S2 Haruno.

Isaiah King
Isaiah King

Handsome 8man

Why? Part of his character is that he's supposed to be ugly or at least normal looking.

Benjamin Campbell
Benjamin Campbell

there are people who unironically prefer the looks of S1 with poorer production values

Nathaniel Mitchell
Nathaniel Mitchell

The characters tend to comment that the only unappealing part of his face is his eyes. Otherwise, he'd actually be really handsome.

Jordan Roberts
Jordan Roberts

Look more charming. S2 designs suffer from sameface syndrome and the production values and animation aren't that good of an improvement, they actually look kind of plastic-y and too shiny in S2.

Joseph Campbell
Joseph Campbell

He should wear glasses like her mom

William Torres
William Torres

The only thing I really like about S2 design is how Yukino and Hachiman look made for each other.

I mean look at that fucking couple. They're like soulmates.

Eli Cooper
Eli Cooper

There's nothing "charming" about S1's designs, they are simply bad. Both seasons have the typical modern anime colouring so that's not a big difference to me. S2 definitely has far superior character animation.

Ryder Parker
Ryder Parker

So as sensei, rumi and blonde yukinon?

Andrew Watson
Andrew Watson

No one has ever said that he was handsome apart from his eyes, only that his eyes were really creepy. The only one who has commented on his looks in a somewhat positive manner is Yukino.

Tyler Wood
Tyler Wood

I wish all the Yukinofags got cancer. They are too delusional.

Henry Bennett
Henry Bennett

Sensei
Too tall

Rumi
Too short

blonde Yukinon
Blonde would not fit. Two dark hair is better.

Jacob Collins
Jacob Collins

That would just make them all Irohafags.

Jason Morris
Jason Morris

Not even a Yukinofag, but that is incredibly uncalled for. Kind of makes me want you to get cancer instead.

Matthew Jenkins
Matthew Jenkins

S2 definitely has far superior character animation.

It wasn't anything special. S1 designs were charmingly bad. S2 just look like the typical mass produced samefacey shit.

Dominic Evans
Dominic Evans

Just here to post perfection.

Adrian Ramirez
Adrian Ramirez

Why is Yui trying to steal Yukino's bf? Friends don't do that to each other. Yui is an awful and stupid person. She doesn't even know penguins are birds.

Elijah Reyes
Elijah Reyes

Go away Yuipollfag.

Ryder Morris
Ryder Morris

Hikki's eyes don't look close enough to that of a dead fish. S1 design is better in that regard.
Apart from that, I don't mind either design, but I wish S1 had less QUALITY. Unless I mix it up and there wasn't that much more than in S2.

Brandon Watson
Brandon Watson

Both season are of the typical anime style, but at least S2 designs are more detailed and visually appealing. The only anime that I can say has somewhat similar design to S2 is the Railgun anime, but that's because they have the same character designer. There's a decent amount of subtle character animation in the form of stylized realism too, the second season had good main animators after all unlike the first which had no good animators.

Nathan Davis
Nathan Davis

8man's not supposed to look ugly. Yukino said his eyes are rotten after 8man commented on his own good looks, but she danced around the comment while not saying anything about his supposed other good looks. Yui also said he looks pretty plain after Saika said he looks pretty good. Komachi also remarked that his "dead-fish" eyes are the only unappealing part about him, and that he used to not have such an unappealing look. All in all, he definitely doesn't look ugly to the other characters. Perhaps he does look like a pretty boy, but his rotten facial expressions diminish that.

David Myers
David Myers

No one has actually said he looks handsome except him. They're all just "well, you're not ugly".

Lincoln Barnes
Lincoln Barnes

S2 looks strange.

William Richardson
William Richardson

I'd fuck S2 8man just sayin

Dominic Reed
Dominic Reed

Hachiman isn't ugly. His eyes are "rotten", but otherwise it's mostly his poker face and creepy mannerisms that make him unattractive.

He's not some Adonis chiseled from stone, either.

I dunno. I generally think of him as someone who is decent enough looking where looks won't hurt him overmuch (if not for the aforementioned parts, some of which come down to personal taste), but unlike Hayama not so good looking that he should be posing for romance novel covers.

Angel Lopez
Angel Lopez

There's no need to spoiler that. Everyone already knows the inevitable end.

Colton Kelly
Colton Kelly

S1

Levi Bennett
Levi Bennett

Well I don't agree. The designs did not appeal to me.

There wasn't that much improvement in animation either, aside from like 6 or 7 very short scenes, worst thing (for me) is that half of those were done by Tetsuya Takeuchi and I really hate his style.

Carter Mitchell
Carter Mitchell

Last I checked Yui won. Yukino is lucky that Yui looks out for her and is sweet to her.

Sebastian Lopez
Sebastian Lopez

that doesn't explain her interest and remarks about him such as "maybe you're too good for Yukino-chan" or Hayama's observation about setting up double date which was not for Yukino at all "she must like you"

Austin Williams
Austin Williams

no the two loners already have friends and acquaintances now
it took the protagonist 11 volumes to be able to talk to the two girls in an honest manner
that other user is sort of correct, it's another series about school kids getting their heads out of their asses. That doesn't make it inherantly bad or anything, and I guess on some levels Yahari carries this out in an interesting manner.

Owen Bailey
Owen Bailey

In ANOTHER Haruno drops 8man as a person of interest when he goes on Yui's route.

Jacob Nelson
Jacob Nelson

The only thing I really like about S2 design is how Yukino and Hachiman look made for each other.
you mean Orimoto, right
not even an Orimotofag, her and 8man just look weirdly fitting together visually

John Bell
John Bell

Nah, close but no cigar. That hairstyle of hers doesn't do it.

Julian Powell
Julian Powell

S1 had its charm, but S2 is just beautiful.
I personally think that both work for the best for their respective seasons.
S1 was goofy enough to warrant more laid back designs.
S2 had more character development and genuine, which I think it works the best with its design.

Ryder Rogers
Ryder Rogers

half of those were done by Tetsuya Takeuchi and I really hate his style.
Interesting, why do you not like it?

Anthony Lee
Anthony Lee

S1 Iroha >>>> S2 Iroha

Alexander Collins
Alexander Collins

S1 Haruno >>>>>>>>>>>>>> S2 Haruno

S1 Orimoto >>>>>>>>>>>> S2 Orimoto

Eli Phillips
Eli Phillips

Why are some people shocked that Yui is not as nice as 8mam thinks and is selfish and unfair? She says as much.

Levi Ramirez
Levi Ramirez

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Jose Lopez
Jose Lopez

After reading vol 10 infirmary scene, I have to agree the anime exaggerated it.

I'm not sure it's the moment Yukino realized she liked Hachiman. She must have known it before. It may have been the moment Yui realized Yukino liked Hachiman though.

Parker Long
Parker Long

I don't think it is where she figures it out either. In ANOTHER she never has that scene but likes him and is aware of it.

Gavin Cooper
Gavin Cooper

Which would mesh with it being the scene that tells Yui that Yukino likes him. Because as I understand it Yui doesn't figure it out in ANOTHER until the chocolate making scene.

Cooper Smith
Cooper Smith

From what I have read on nip sites Japan thinks that the infirmary scene is the trigger for Yukino to want to pursue 8man. Without it she doesn't make him chocolate. It sort of proves that what was in her bag is a symbol of her feelings and her wanting to pursue.

Austin Hughes
Austin Hughes

I always thought S1 looked way better I was really confused when I moved on to S2

Ian Johnson
Ian Johnson

s1 for hachiman
s2 for everyone else

they made him too handsome in s2

Jason Cruz
Jason Cruz

Maybe. I just felt like the scene in the LN was underwhelming compared to the anime.

I agree it could be a trigger or romance flag, especially given how in ANOTHER the flag went to Yui and Yukino acted differently in the end.

Parker Ward
Parker Ward

Anime tends to need to beat you over the head with things. It is like that with any book ---> anime/movies/tv show.

Daniel Robinson
Daniel Robinson

So did Yui really win? Is she going out with hachiman or did Yukinon just say she will support Yui or some shit like that because when someone says that they usually go back on it.

Tyler Hall
Tyler Hall

I believe S2 8man would have two hotties barking up his tree. S1 8man is a stretch even for Yui to look at him.

Nicholas Torres
Nicholas Torres

Yui won ANOTHER. Main story is yet to be decided.

Nolan Cruz
Nolan Cruz

Yes, she is on a v day date with Yui and he holds her hand. He promises to go on ANOTHER one and it gives the feel of a romance that has just started.

Yukino was getting shit from Harunon, Yui figures out that Yukino likes Hikki and hesitates, Yukino calmly diffuses the situation and encourages Yui. Yui knows that Yukino likes him but Yui will take him even if she knows it isn't fair. It is implied Yukino will only hide her feelings rather than stop having them. Yukino didn't make any proclamation she would help Yui out, she just gave her an assist.

some shit like that because when someone says that they usually go back on it.
Moonland and her think that ANOTHER might be heading towards WA2 2.0: copyright infringement edition.

Thomas Brooks
Thomas Brooks

LITERALLY WHO

People actually watch EVERY SoL? I'm fine with one or two..

Cameron Robinson
Cameron Robinson

yet to be decided
I'm sure Watari knows how he is going to end this, right????

Aaron Watson
Aaron Watson

This isn't Nisekoi. WW has clearly had a plan in motion for this series since at least volume 6, probably earlier.

Ryder Garcia
Ryder Garcia

Then why hasn't he released vol 12 yet? ANOTHER only gives Yui a good end and Yukino an "I'm okay" end.

8man should tap that and say that it is practice for Hayama.

Tyler Roberts
Tyler Roberts

With each passing day I'm starting to believe that less and less.

Alexander Williams
Alexander Williams

Then why hasn't he released vol 12 yet?
Well, until a couple of months ago he was doing ANOTHER alongside it. Plus he is working on multiple non-Oregairu projects at the same time as well which dominate his twitter feed these days. It's also quite possible vol 12 will be a longer volume than normal for the series.

But really, I don't feel the wait has been that arduous. Maybe it's from having to put up with true epically slow writers like GRRM and Rothfuss.

What makes you think that? Please don't say the wait or ANOTHER, which is mostly just glorified fanservice to try and satisfy Yuifags.

Xavier Russell
Xavier Russell

Hachiman
Even slightly wanting the most normal of normalfag characters
He'd sudoku first

Jack Fisher
Jack Fisher

which is mostly just glorified fanservice to try and satisfy Yuifags.
Why would WW feel the need to give them fanservice especially?

Pussy is pussy.

Oliver Clark
Oliver Clark

Why would WW feel the need to give them fanservice especially?
We might have to wait for vol 12 to find that out.

Camden Clark
Camden Clark

Why do you keep making excuses for him?

Austin King
Austin King

Excuses for what? You people should never read fantasy. Then you will learn what is to truly wait for a book to come out.

This roughly one year wait we've had so far is pathetically short. Wake me up if we don't have it this time next year and then I'll see cause for your wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Jaxson Flores
Jaxson Flores

Watari should have finished this series first before doing other shit. You can't deny that. No one asked for another. We could have had a proper conclusion to the story months ago, but no. Feel free to keep defending the guy however.

Liam Rivera
Liam Rivera

We might have to wait for vol 12 to find that out.
Well yeah but I find it odd he went out of his way to make a heavily pro Yui end.

Blake Jones
Blake Jones

You can't deny that.

Purely in our interest? Sure it would have been better for him to write vol 12 immediately and not do anything else.

In his interest? It's a little different. It is to his advantage to squeeze as much as he can get from Oregairu before it's over.

We can not like it all we want, but it doesn't mean at all that he has no idea how he intends for it to end. He has already given us one ending to the series. There is no reason to think he doesn't know exactly what he wants the "real" ending to be. This wait is nowhere near long enough to start making that accusation. That's all I am saying.

Leo Cooper
Leo Cooper

S1 all the way. S2 8man isn't as unattractive, and the girls are overcomplex.

Carter Allen
Carter Allen

I watched this for the first time last week. I need more Iroha.

Connor Carter
Connor Carter

What triggers Yuifags the hardest: Yukino's character song or the recipes?

I still don't get why the recipes trigger them.

Easton Jenkins
Easton Jenkins

I think the recipes. They have mostly given up on attacking her character song since those came out.

John Reyes
John Reyes

What's so great about her? I don't hate her but she just falls in love with the pretty boy like any other.

Julian Reyes
Julian Reyes

They'll find something else, don't worry about it.

Leo Sanders
Leo Sanders

If I removed 8man's ahoge, would he die?

Liam Sanders
Liam Sanders

Nothing really.

Caleb Davis
Caleb Davis

But what about the recipes pisses them off? Is it because it strongly implies Yukino likes 8man? Or is it because it proves Yui isn't a perfect, benevolent angel?

It shows that Yui at the end of the day would on Yukino just for 8man.

Jacob Diaz
Jacob Diaz

I'm this guy what do you mean by recipes?
Her foxy look and the way she messes with 8man.

Joshua Lewis
Joshua Lewis

what do you mean by recipes?

They're in volume R. They take place at R's chocolate making event. They are basically memorandums from Yukino and Yui that describe their feelings in making the chocolates. I will post them, give me a minute.

Bentley Jones
Bentley Jones

Sensei is best girl followed by Yui and blue ponytail

Jose Bailey
Jose Bailey

Honestly speaking all is fair in love and war, especially for women if it's love they need to fight for their man which makes it hotter.

Josiah Robinson
Josiah Robinson

Yukinoshita's recipe

Placing wheat flour, sugar and chocolate on the weighing scales.
Properly arranging all those that have been weighed.
To decide on the correct amount of time, to perfectly build up a list of established procedures.
In order for it to not go wrong, so that there will be no mistakes.
However, there is just one thing, there are lies mixed into it.
For what the truth is worth, there is a spoonful of lies.
As I baked them one by one, towards the weak looking portions, gracefully, without leaving a gap or an uneven surface, I coat it with a layer of bitter chocolate.
From the view here, the fine powdered sugar sparkled beautifully like snow.
The sugar falling down as I sprinkle them was just like the snow.
They could probably cover up and hide just about everything.
I think it's cowardly.
I'd probably even accepted this cowardly side of me already.
She is. My friend.
Knowing this and yet trying to hide it, I think I am probably trying to push my feelings of guilt onto her.
I am probably still clinging on to those sweet things.
However, because there are still things that I desire.
That's why, I will do the things that I can do.
I can only do it up till this point, the rest depends on you.
Telling her this, I turn around to face her.
And with that, I began to recall my initial conversation with her.
Just like that time too, it was just the two of us.
What kind of conversation it was, with the exception of the two of us, there was no one else, not even him, who knows it.
Yet, she was just like that time; I could see an uneasy expression on her.
To try and ease her uneasiness, I spoke to her in as gentle a tone as possible.
It's alright as long as you can smile even more brightly than during that time.
"The next time, the handmade cookies, we are going to give it right?"
Surely, this is the correct form.
Therefore, this is my recipe.

Joseph Gonzalez
Joseph Gonzalez

Yui's recipe

Putting the sugar little by little with trembling hands.
Even if the product doesn't come out nicely, it's fine.
It would be the best if it could come out cutely though.
But, it probably won't end up being like that.
Because there's a lot of things mixed into it.
I tried to collect just the sweet things, just the cute things and only the things that you like.
Just as I thought, it can't be done.
Chiseling here, cutting there, an unevenness all around. Sweet and bitter.
I am not particularly smart or anything. I've probably always been this way.
That's why, there's no way I can do it perfectly.
I don't know what is "correct". It's definitely not the right way to do it however.
Therefore, I've always been putting in some sort of subtle seasoning that only I know.
So as to not let anyone know. So as to not let him know.
Milk and condensed milk. Also, a little of bitter coffee.
Towards that pure white cream, mixing a little of black bit by bit.
The original whiteness of it can no longer be restored.
No matter how diluted it is, how much I add, he will surely remember the bitterness.
It's unfair, for both me and her.
However, it's because of love that this unfairness even arose.
I want to keep loving you. Both me and my friend.
Calling out, looking up. My eyes catches hold of the serious expression and I flinch, just a little.
Just like that time, I wonder if it was done nicely.
Totally different from me, not one bit of me bears any resemblance.
That's why I am attracted to you and rapidly fall in love with you
At the very beginning when I first talked to you, I was so nervous that I could barely converse.
Probably, the same was true for the other as well.
Though I want to give a smile that was more earnest than always, I don't think I have the confidence to even smile like I usually do.
However, probably, the way in which both she and I smiled were likely to be the same.
"......Un. I will try to do it, my own way. Thank you."

Justin Bell
Justin Bell

(cont)

Whether it's correct or not I do not know. However, this will be my recipe.

Jace Rivera
Jace Rivera

Honestly speaking I think she better stop doing that with Hachiman because she is probably gonna get rejected again by the pretty boy because of that behaviour. Even worse she may fall in love with him which will make it even worse for her.

Robert Miller
Robert Miller

I think so too. I don't want her to win anyway, why would I want the girl I like to date another guy?

Adam Green
Adam Green

Thanks user.

Jayden Price
Jayden Price

My dear cunt-killer, where forth art thou?

Connor Watson
Connor Watson

It would be extremely painful

Logan Myers
Logan Myers

S2 really pissed me off. S1 had such a great look to it.

Dylan Anderson
Dylan Anderson

Well if you remember when R came out, the very first spoilers we got were basically "perfect Yui end and everyone is happy".

I think some (not all) Yuifags had latched onto the idea that Yui would get her fairy tale "happy ending" in ANOTHER to compensate for an expected more painful outcome for her in the main story.

But the recipes pour cold water on the idea that ANOTHER is a perfect ending. It's so close to perfect, but a little bitterness is mixed in. Yukino just isn't quite alright with everything in ANOTHER. Unlike what some people say she's not in total meltdown, but there's a note of pain for her. And Yui is aware of it (but perhaps not the total depth of it).

Carson Price
Carson Price

English Subbed OreGairu Fes, some funny moments in there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znMFBQ89GWc

Jayden Gray
Jayden Gray

He's a genuine guy

Nathan Bennett
Nathan Bennett

It's like a horn. You think it's just solid stuff, but there's blood and cartilage in there.

Zachary Flores
Zachary Flores

for you

Gavin Hall
Gavin Hall

4:51 onwards
She's great.

Grayson Richardson
Grayson Richardson

Wow, shit taste.

Dylan Davis
Dylan Davis

I need this in my life...

John Carter
John Carter

holy cringe.

Andrew Adams
Andrew Adams

the very first spoilers we got were basically "perfect Yui end and everyone is happy".
People didn't think that WW would put a biter lining and just give a nice end. Yui always said she wasn't a nice girl but people refused to listen.

compensate for an expected more painful outcome for her in the main story.
Some believe she is still going to win the main series.

Unlike what some people say she's not in total meltdown
Yeah but some people think that it can lead to one due to her problems may be bigger than we think. But that is just a guess.

Ryder Roberts
Ryder Roberts

I prefer the left, the newer art style is so generic.

Nicholas Martin
Nicholas Martin

Yui is aware of it
I think we are reading it wrong. Yui wouldn't leave Yukino to hurt just to get her Hikki. Even if she doesn't know the depth of Yukino's problems she knows it hurts to lose your crush to your best friend.

Eli Wilson
Eli Wilson

I think we are reading it wrong. Yui wouldn't leave Yukino to hurt just to get her Hikki
I'd say we are reading it correctly and that you simply don't want to accept it.

Luke Wood
Luke Wood

S2 has better drawing, but S1 has better coloring.

David Bennett
David Bennett

s1 had prettier eyes

Logan Mitchell
Logan Mitchell

I think it makes her seem cruel and selfish. She would fuck over a friend just for some crush.

Connor Foster
Connor Foster

I WANT TO A SLY KOUHAI

Christopher White
Christopher White

Which YY would let 8man hold her hand and closed mouth kiss her?

Asher Thomas
Asher Thomas

one of them may be an experienced kisser, and that wouldn't be Yui

Sebastian Mitchell
Sebastian Mitchell

Practicing kissing on a certain Pan-san doll doesn't equate experience.

Henry Carter
Henry Carter

Who is going to win the Yuibowl, Yukino or Hachiman? I don't know who would be better, but I think Hachiman would handle rejection better than Yukino.

Liam Cruz
Liam Cruz

post it in the catalog when this thread goes down

Tyler Anderson
Tyler Anderson

but practicing with her childhood friend does

John Ward
John Ward

Yui isn't actually her childhood friend, although it does still count.

Jaxon Ross
Jaxon Ross

Rumi still has a very nice hat to this day.

Samuel Wilson
Samuel Wilson

because it looks like a primary school girl's hat in Japan?

Carter Walker
Carter Walker

period blood chocolate pls

Landon Allen
Landon Allen

I think any hat would look good on a primary school girl

Elijah Allen
Elijah Allen

even a Murican baseball hat?

Logan Green
Logan Green

It's more like one of those beanie hipster hats.

Logan Ward
Logan Ward

i love Minami Chiaki's hat

Cooper Green
Cooper Green

Just try to talk shit about this show.

Protip: you can't

James Johnson
James Johnson

Can't talk shit about this show
Oregairu more like BOREgairu

Jacob Anderson
Jacob Anderson

no harem

Cooper Perry
Cooper Perry

nice try baka

Wyatt Peterson
Wyatt Peterson

Senpai, where do you usually go?”
“Home.”
“Try again.”
“R-Right…”

Luke Perry
Luke Perry

Did girls other than Yui pronounce baka in a captivating way?

Oliver Jackson
Oliver Jackson

i'm graduating high school tomorrow
I tried to act like 8 man all the time and chicks started to fall for me.

Sebastian Hernandez
Sebastian Hernandez

Is YY's friendship over? Is there a way 8man could protect it?

Jackson Lee
Jackson Lee

The ONLY thing that redeems S2 is Iroha.

Jose Butler
Jose Butler

Hes supposed to be good looking except his eyes.

Adrian Diaz
Adrian Diaz

Yes.
By removing himself.

Hudson Cook
Hudson Cook

YY will go /u/, Hachiman will get hit by a car and die, and Iroha will go on to grow up to write a shitty light novel under a pseudonym.

This will all happen, my dad works for Kadokawa.

David Phillips
David Phillips

This is true. As long as 8man is a thing he will come between them and stunt their growth.

Blake Young
Blake Young

Iroha was the author's true self insert all along
Bravo WW

Aiden Robinson
Aiden Robinson

S2 had better production values by far, but Brain's Base's designs were "expressive".

Jason Long
Jason Long

http://imgur.com/a/VuMzL
if anyone remembers or cares

Plus an Irohacolor.

Easton Wright
Easton Wright

Which Oregairu would you like to become, except for Hachiman?

Gavin Harris
Gavin Harris

Sakisaki because she's /fit/, has strong family values, and has a good work ethic.

Mason Foster
Mason Foster

He'd end up looking like his dad.

Dylan Lopez
Dylan Lopez

But the one that died was all just an elaborate ruse

Hachiman is still alive
Somewhere building his Outer Genuine

Owen Williams
Owen Williams

Tobe so I can fuck Iroha

Sebastian Ramirez
Sebastian Ramirez

S1 all the way

but I am probably biased cause i liked S1 more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A90toVPX-kk

Julian Jones
Julian Jones

Yui. She has huge knockers to play with and I have always wondered how it felt to be in love with someone.

Daniel Anderson
Daniel Anderson

Saika
i will transform from trap to carnivore-woman killer

Robert Sanders
Robert Sanders

コミック hachiman

Chase Carter
Chase Carter

some crush
Why would Yui prioritize Yukino's friendship over being with Hachiman? She has had feelings for Hachiman longer than she has ever known Yukino.

Nathaniel Evans
Nathaniel Evans

She may value her friendship with Yukino more than romance with 8man and values Yukino's feelings. Time doesn't have anything to do with it. She values the club most of all.

Joshua Rogers
Joshua Rogers

She may value her friendship with Yukino more than romance with 8man

She obviously does not and it would have been a surprise if she did.

She cares about Yukino, but she wants the 8man more than anything.

Benjamin Flores
Benjamin Flores

it would have been a surprise if she did.
She seemed to really like Yukino. All 8man ever does for Yui is make her into a ball of emotions.

She cares about Yukino, but she wants the 8man more than anything.
Then why did she make her proposal at the end of vol 11? She tried to do the best thing for Yukino and wasn't interested in succeeding.

Cooper Morris
Cooper Morris

wasn't interested in succeeding

She knew Hachiman and Yukino well enough to know that she wouldn't succeed. However, deep down, she would take it if it were possible.

Levi Taylor
Levi Taylor

However, deep down, she would take it if it were possible.
Why do you think that? That would be very selfish to want to be the only one happy. I don't think she wants Yukino to swallow her feelings, she gave Yukino every opportunity to try and confess.

Landon Richardson
Landon Richardson

http://webm.land/w/pq1v/

Joseph Evans
Joseph Evans

Yui is going to lose the lifebowl.

Anthony Scott
Anthony Scott

until S2 came

Jack Stewart
Jack Stewart

The fuck is this? Хуита какая-то.

Daniel Anderson
Daniel Anderson

Yui - zoku
8man - season 1
Yukinon - season 2

Sebastian Jenkins
Sebastian Jenkins

Yukino closing off her feelings and her problems limits her ability to get close to 8man and Yui. It may alienate her and cause her not to do anything about her main problem. I don't think that is a very good end for her so ANOTHER isn't her happy end like some anons claim.

Dylan Morris
Dylan Morris

What will Yukino and Yui do when they find out 8man has knocked up most of Chiba, including their own kin? They seem ready to loose it just because Orimoto suggested giving him treats.

Jacob Powell
Jacob Powell

Honestly, I didn't like season twos design. They look off...

Camden Lee
Camden Lee

A shitton of back-alley abortions

Matthew Martinez
Matthew Martinez

That would be very selfish to want to be the only one happy.

When did I say she wants to be the only one happy? But if someone has to get hurt, she will take Yukino getting hurt over herself.

Why do Yuifags persist in placing her on some pedestal of perfection that turns her into a joke and a caricature? Hachiman revisits two things at the end of vol 11: That Yukino is a "strong girl" and Yui is a "nice girl". Both assertions are wrong.

Yui is not a nice girl. Repeat after me, Yuifag: "Yui is not a nice girl". Keep saying it until it finally gets through your thick skull.

Lucas Anderson
Lucas Anderson

bodyless designs would have made a good anime

Henry Lopez
Henry Lopez

They looked cute together and they have the most interesting relationship in my opinion.

Parker Ortiz
Parker Ortiz

She's shit and is wholly incompatible with Hachiman. Her purpose in the story is long over.

Hopefully we've seen the end of her in vol 11. She said she'd give him some chocolates, but in the end she just asked him to come try some at the end of the event.

Levi Howard
Levi Howard

You're hilarious user!

Landon Sanders
Landon Sanders

I don't even understand how the bulk of these threads always ends up being people arguing over characters being nice or not
none of the main characters are "nice", that's the whole fucking point even - the series hammers into the viewer's eyes with no subtlety that being nice gets you nowhere hence everyone having ulterior motives and schemes to almost everything they say to 8man

Thomas Nelson
Thomas Nelson

ORIMOTO A CUTE!!!

A CUTE!

C
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Caleb Morales
Caleb Morales

"Hikigaya, looks like the condom broke, hilarious"

Landon Parker
Landon Parker

Since Orimoto was one of the key factors in Hachiman's pathos, particularly towards 'nice girls', when Yui loses the 8bowl she should track Orimoto down and disembowel her as painfully as possible.

Yui might not be a nice girl, but 8man thought she was at one point. If not for his trauma induced hangups, the two might have become a couple long ago.

Nathaniel Morales
Nathaniel Morales

What if 8man ends up with one of her friends?

Luke Flores
Luke Flores

i want to force feed orimoto Saize

Jeremiah Turner
Jeremiah Turner

Who is the absolute best choice for 8man, regardless of likelihood?

Dominic Smith
Dominic Smith

yukino

Daniel Jones
Daniel Jones

regardless of likelihood
Komachi

Jose Richardson
Jose Richardson

From "8", Two Phantoms Were Born.

Jonathan Sanders
Jonathan Sanders

Sensei

Gabriel Hill
Gabriel Hill

user said regardless of likelihood, not regardless of legality
anyway Komachi is in charge of managing the harem, these dumb bimbos can't do anything by themselves

Liam Brown
Liam Brown

Sagami

Camden Jones
Camden Jones

Cr-R's.

David Hughes
David Hughes

What Doujin is that from /a/non?

Robert Adams
Robert Adams

S1. no debate

Aiden Clark
Aiden Clark

Sakisaki.
She's the only one I could see and ending with both of them happily married together until death break them apart. And maybe, just maybe, with her 8man could even hope to get on the house-husband route.
But really, she's the only one who's good enough as a woman, mother, housekeeper, the perfect wife.
And also isn't a slut (Iroha), isn't dumb/gullible (Yui), isn't a major pestering unsufferable bitch (Yukino), doesn't have friends/relatives/people who care more about her social status than her/them, and would give her/them shit (more or less all three of YYI), isn't an old hag full of dangerous addictions AND a few bad flaws (Shizuka), isn't a manipulative bitch (Haruno), and so on...
She's the most family oriented girl of the cast, and that's not a subjective matter.
She's undoubtedly interested in him, they both got "fans" or "helpers" ready to help them in their future relationship (2 sisters and 1 brother), and so on...
No really, what do you need anymore, 8man?
Too bad he doesn't really give a fuck about her, that means he doesn't fucking deserve such a perfect waifu. Whoever is gonna marry her, will be the true winner of Oregairu.

Wyatt Reed
Wyatt Reed

Which design do you prefer?
Who cares. R and volume 12 out now godfuckingdamnit.
Also I want a You ending because Yui best girl (Iroha close second) and it's the only way the problems of all three are gonna get solved.

Chase King
Chase King

The last addition to Oregairu/Yahari, check sadpanda or similar. It's finally the full work, not a sample anymore.

Connor Peterson
Connor Peterson

Yui and Iroha get the closest.
Yui because she's the one closest to understand what 8man actually means by genuine, and by character is by far the most equipped and willing to provide it to him.
Iroha because there's real attraction and they understand each other better than everyone else
The worst possible scenario would be Yukino, really. He's just gonna become her new Haruno, not solving either's problem, and she's always the one most at fault for fakeness. Not to mention she's spooked to shit, and they look more like they admire each other than they're in love.

Jeremiah Cox
Jeremiah Cox

S1, not only because it was the first time I saw those characters, but also because they're too shiny, and glittering, and fabulous in S2, and I don't really like them there. Also, I think they're cuter in S1, because they're simpler. And simple equals cuteness, sometimes.

Adam James
Adam James

Does anyone except for Hachiman himself, his doting sister and his husbando Saika ever say this?

Adam Allen
Adam Allen

Only problem is her brother is possibly into Komachi. Is it weird to marry the sibling of your sibling's partner? Real question.

Kayden Jackson
Kayden Jackson

I prefer s2.

The fact noone ever denies it when he says it is very telling. Also 8man is the monster of self-consciousness, he's not kidding himself.

Juan Nguyen
Juan Nguyen

Wow, this is pathetic. Is this really what you got out of the series? So let's take a look at ANOTHER, Yui's route. The route where Hachiman gives up on wanting something genuine. How in the fuck do you come to this conclusion:

Yui because she's the one closest to understand what 8man actually means by genuine, and by character is by far the most equipped and willing to provide it to him.

I'm not even going to touch on the other points because that is just wrong.

Benjamin Morris
Benjamin Morris

Why is this even up for debate? S1 was agreed to be objectively superior.

Jacob Clark
Jacob Clark

I'll always favour Ponkan8 aesthetic and I have to commend season one for at least trying to imitate Ponkan8 style.

Josiah Perez
Josiah Perez

I'm not even going to touch on the other points because that is just wrong.
You haven't touched any point at all actually, just said you disagreed.

And there's not much to say about it either: Yui is the only one who wants to keep smashing down walls to get at 8man, who is willing to hurt and be hurt to get at him and who wants him rather than need him. She's the one who is gonna go get Hachiman if he's not gonna come.
Yukinofaggotry is denial of all character development for the sake of fanservice and trite loner combination. Not to mention it would be as toxic a relationship as it gets.

Jace Foster
Jace Foster

Cr-R is Ebina personified and given form in our reality.

Ryder Rodriguez
Ryder Rodriguez

He is super inconsistent with his 8man. I have absolutely no clue why either.

John Collins
John Collins

ANOTHER is separate universe with people weirdly out of character, I was only talking about main story

Matthew Price
Matthew Price

I agree with this.

Jose Wright
Jose Wright

So, what was the point of s2? The novel is like 2 volumes away from the end, so there won't be enough material for a third season. Is it just going to be left incompete? Will they make an OVA?
Shouldn't they just have waited for the end and made a final season? Or even better, rather than hurry through the novels 7-11 made s2 and s3 by fleshing out more the material?

Hudson Ortiz
Hudson Ortiz

I assume an OVA is what they're going for yeah
like what happened wth School Rumble (but less disappointing this time, hopefully)

Jason Brown
Jason Brown

No one would buy the LNs if the show had a conclusion

Asher Rivera
Asher Rivera

Yukino looked horrible in S2.

Michael Bennett
Michael Bennett

So what exactly is ANOTHER? Author made "fanfiction"? Is it supposed to be canon in any way?

Nicholas Morris
Nicholas Morris

get real, plenty of great LN have 3 or 4 year gaps sometimes as author is on other projects. Watari is starting two more anime and one other LN that I know of. 1 year is nothing and at least we have OVA coming

Alexander Baker
Alexander Baker

But Komachi doesn't seem into Taishi, as much as 8man himself isn't into Saki, just as I said. The Kawasakis are into the Hikigayas, but the Hikigayas don't really give a fuck about the Kawasakis.
Also, I know an old couple whose siblings also married eachother, and it worked fine for all 4 of them. But, it seems that all 4 of them were all friends from early childhood, so I can't say if that worked only because of that reason.

Matthew Rogers
Matthew Rogers

I don't give a shit about an OVA. I want the end of the story. You need to get real, no one asked for this other garbage, people want the conclusion to the story so they can move on with their lives.

Carter Morgan
Carter Morgan

Is it weird to marry the sibling of your sibling's partner?
Not really. I could see it being weird if a total siscon and a total brocon end up together when the targets of their affection become a couple, but given a normal and healthy family relationship there'd be nothing weird about such a situation.

Cameron Murphy
Cameron Murphy

Maybe her other works, but not
THIS ONE That's because it's basically trap on male, and Ebina/fujoshis in general don't really like traps, and even if they somewhat like 'em, they only put them in the uke role.
That's also the reason as to why I only like about only 10% of the stuff from this author, too much yaoi and not enough traps and futas.

Alexander Roberts
Alexander Roberts

but that carving on railing when Hiratsuka talking to Hachiman, Kawaski loved and had her heart broken so might be unwilling in present to try again. Maybe someday she'll get a side story, I'd pair her with that strong silent big man in Hayama's clique Yamato

Liam Watson
Liam Watson

people want the conclusion to the story so they can move on with their lives
Actually I'd rather he does his extra shit rather than just mail in a shit ending just to end it.

Austin Parker
Austin Parker

I want the end of the story.
why are you complaining here? go write a letter to the author who hasn't written the ending yet

Jacob Harris
Jacob Harris

More like she sees he's too much into Yui to try and get between them.
It's clear as fuck that she's a little romantically interested in him. Just a tiny little bit, but there's something.

Jacob Smith
Jacob Smith

the Japanese don't have your problem of having patience of a three-year-old. They enjoy the live shows, radio shows, OVA etc. of oregairu. mellow out, watch other anime and read other LN/Manga. being obsessed with one isn't healthy

Ayden Gonzalez
Ayden Gonzalez

0/10
This is old bait, senpai. Step up your game.

Kevin Rodriguez
Kevin Rodriguez

I don't get why a Yuifag would think she's a "nice girl". Her whole appeal is that she's actually the one who likes 8man and wants to go and get him.
Her whole issue to be solved was putting others before herself, so necessarily her growth needs to be prioritizing what she wants over what Yukino needs.

Lincoln Smith
Lincoln Smith

If I take on their character, then Komachi. If I keep my own character, Hayato.

Cameron Watson
Cameron Watson

With all the shit WW talks about LN authors being poor and having unstable earnings, I have to wonder: how much dosh did he make out of the oregairu franchise? Is it known?

Camden Ward
Camden Ward

True mate like they say All is fair in love and war.
I hate it when the girl who's trying her hardest for the guy doesn't get rewarded and instead the other girl that is hesitant and unwilling and just expects things to fall in place for her wins, it really ticks me off.

Luke Torres
Luke Torres

rumi-rumi is such a sexual creature, that pose is just too much.

Easton Mitchell
Easton Mitchell

Holy shit that was so fucked up. That was so gross, way too big for Totsuka.
And that's a pity, we don't see many trap on male stuff around, too bad the artist had to fucking ruin everything with that monster cock. Fuck her/him, it's okay to give the trap a big enough dick, but that was way overboard.
Gross, gross, gross.

Jaxon Wright
Jaxon Wright

Not bait at all, having view focused on that writing for a time was not purposeless, in anime things are shown for a reason

Brody Baker
Brody Baker

Well that's not really what I was trying to say tho. It's not like I wanna see Yui get her just deserts, it's just that it'd be totally out of character (or rather, a total denial of growth) for 8man to go for fakenoshita unless there's like 8 more novels worth of character development to go.

Henry Ramirez
Henry Ramirez

Yukino has one and only one issue to solve; don't need 8 volumes just a change of heart which the ending of vol 11 /s2 may well be. Yui is the "fake", the one who values her superficial clique and who has to balance her friendship with them and the club sometimes causing issues.

James King
James King

It's called filler, senpai. Just like the characters's songs.
Everybody AND THEIR MOTHERS knows that if something doesn't come from the primary source, whether it's manga, or LN, or VN, or whatever, it's to be considered filler.

Kevin James
Kevin James

too much yaoi and not enough traps and futas
You forgot the femdom stuff. Pic related.
Best club activities ever.

Ryder Jackson
Ryder Jackson

Wrong not filler, had a purpose. that cost time and money to do and Watari had it done. You make things up in the world between your ears and imagine it's truth that "everyone and their mother knows" . You plus the voices in your head don't make a more weighty source

Jace Brown
Jace Brown

that's against this board's rules; read them so you don't get banned

David Rogers
David Rogers

Yukino's issue is that she's dependent on others. That's not gonna get solved quickly in any way that would be compatible with her ending up with 8man, because she's already showing signs that her affection is shifting Haruno's role onto 8man.
Yui's issue is that she puts others before herself. The literally perfect way to solve that is by her deciding take 8man for herself and fuck Yukino's needs and the riajuu's opinion (not that they'd care really).
Hachiman's issue is that he wants real, unadulterated relationships. Who's more likely to provide that, the girl with tons of side issues which may or may not be the reason she likes him or the girl who genuinely just wants him no strings attached?

Luke Bailey
Luke Bailey

So Yui the girl that fell in love with Hachiman because he saved her dog is the genuine article then?

John Ortiz
John Ortiz

Yes. If they endure the dog's death of age they're gonna be together forever.
Also you're being silly. There's literally a whole arc about how the accident was mere serendipity and in no way responsible for Yui's feelings.

Joshua Watson
Joshua Watson

Jesus christ, what the fuck?

Sauce?

Bentley Price
Bentley Price

The point to that arc was that even if the car accident hadn't happened, Yui would have been sent to the Service Club, where Hachiman would have helped her out and then she would have fallen for him. So a requirement for Yui to fall in love with Hachiman is him helping her out.

Michael Gonzalez
Michael Gonzalez

Why is his hair green in S1 and blue in Zoku?

Jordan Ward
Jordan Ward

It's Ebina's signature to make Hikigaya into an uke no matter what the circumstance.

Noah Martin
Noah Martin

You are out of the story user, Yukino feelings have not anythig to do with her family problems.
Yukino problem is that she is a bit coward and tend to hide her feelings instead of going for what she wants, but if you have read the end of vol 11 and her character song, that is going to change, she will pursue what she wants including 8man.
Yui is far from genuine just for the reason that she said herself that "she would be fine even with a lie".

Cameron Kelly
Cameron Kelly

being a whiny little shit
You make Yuifags almost tame and likable by comparison.

Hunter Martinez
Hunter Martinez

When you say almost, you mean that Yuifags are still a little worse or impatient user?

Brandon Hill
Brandon Hill

I personally think s2 artstyle fits the more serious vibe of the anime. Can't say I have a favourite, though I do wish that one lock of hair on Hikki's head would go away - it's just irritating to look at and not very genuine.

Haven't caught up on the novel in ages, scared it'll turn out like another failure to rival Boku wa Tomodachi.

Kevin Fisher
Kevin Fisher

I swear to god if both girls win and it ends up being a 3 way ending I will buy all the novels if they are localized and or buy the blue ray if it has the same ending. That would make the author fucking based as hell.

Jonathan Turner
Jonathan Turner

Does it really need to be said?

YES

Gabriel Taylor
Gabriel Taylor

Not quite, Yukino is carried along by expectations and desires of overpowering family instead of standing up for herself. That's the only "dependency" she has in not choosing her direction and going for her own desires. Part of doing so is about her future, part of doing so is going for the one she loves against family desires. She will be dependent on no one if she does that

Angel Foster
Angel Foster

Another should've been about Yuigamama and Yukimom fighting over 8man

Justin Hernandez
Justin Hernandez

Yui is far from genuine just for the reason that she said herself that "she would be fine even with a lie".
All three of them are far from being genuine, especially Hachiman. Their whole growth is predicated upon overcoming that.

That's the only "dependency" she has in not choosing her direction and going for her own desires.
The feeling I get from reading is actually the opposite: she literally lets anyone leads her around, in spite of what she wants. Yui basically has her on a leash, and she is unable to go stand up to 8man and actually all too willing to follow his lead in spite of disliking the direction.

Alexander Turner
Alexander Turner

and she is unable to go stand up to 8man and actually all too willing to follow his lead in spite of disliking the direction.
That only happens after Hachiman crushed her self-confidence during the events of volume 8.

Christian Rogers
Christian Rogers

No it happens from the beginning all the way to volume 11. It's literally a recurring plot point until the genuine speech, and it keeps happening till the last pages where you have Yukino repeat verbatim 8man's words to Haruno. The girl got issues, and 8man/Yui enable her by their very presence. Which is why he wants them to stay the fuck out of her business.

Luis Lee
Luis Lee

It has become very clear that you have no idea what you're talking about. The light novels go out of their way to show how after Hachiman stopped Yukino from becoming student council president, Yukino has lost her "edge"/self-confidence.

Henry Bell
Henry Bell

She never had any edge nor self confidence. That's the whole point of "Yukinoshita is not a strong girl". She was unable to stand up to hachiman before the elections too. Hell she was unable to stand up to festival girl.

Wyatt Thompson
Wyatt Thompson

How she able to stand up to Miura then? Or to her sister on several ocassions in the series?

Julian Wright
Julian Wright

She only ever talks back. She never does anything. It's literally what makes Haruno keep harassing her. Talk is cheap user.

Kevin Jones
Kevin Jones

Ah, so you have no ground to stand on and are bowing out. Noice.

Asher Lee
Asher Lee

Ah so you have no answer so you pretend you won. Disappointing.

Christian Nelson
Christian Nelson

I agree with you, that is part of the "no direction and not standing up for herself" problem that she just goes with the flow in all parts of her life including Yui and Hachiman. But that's stilll just a symptom of one core issue of needing to take charge of her life. As Haruno said with her "tough love" 'do you even have a self?'

Thomas Taylor
Thomas Taylor

Hachiman didn't stop her, his this with Iroha was just nomination not election. Yukino folded, caved in when she could have still run and likely won since not even a third of student body would have supported Iroha as most the 1/3 nominations were fake

Evan Lopez
Evan Lopez

Yahallo

Benjamin Miller
Benjamin Miller

Hachiman deceived Yukino and Yui there. Hachiman manipulated Iroha into wanting to become student council president, so he took away Yukino's reason to act.

Joseph Jones
Joseph Jones

Yukino only goaded Yumiko with her words, in LN she make Yumiko physically attack her so she could block and hold her arm while grinning maliciously at her. Yukino can stand against bullies, but not against family, expectations, the flow; she just lets those things happen.

She doesn't stand against sister at all, just acts alienated and spiteful

Adrian Clark
Adrian Clark

Yukino could still have run if she really wanted it. but she gave up. Hachiman only claimed to have enough signatures, one third the student body, in social media for nomination that's all. Those were not votes, that was not the election. Yukino wimped out

Angel Rogers
Angel Rogers

Fucking 8man. He somehow brainwashed poor Yukino into not wanting the presidency. Then I guess all that skin crawling later on must have just been the ol' monthlies acting up.

Jordan Campbell
Jordan Campbell

Indeed, Yukino will act to help others, but not for herself. She wants to help Iroha and she wants to stop Hachiman from debasing himself again. That, along with Haruno calling her out on it when she attempts to use Hayama instead of herself, is what convinces her to run. Hachiman's actions take away both motivations for her, leaving her back to her cowardly indecisive self, which quickly folds.

Angel Rivera
Angel Rivera

Yukino stood up to Haruno in volume 6.

Tyler Wood
Tyler Wood

Yukino is only a coward when it comes to dealing with her newfound emotions for Hachiman or dealing with her family and her future.

Grayson Lee
Grayson Lee

You could summarize it generally as cowardly when it comes to "what she wants", which encompasses all those things you stated and more. There is no need to try to split hairs on it.

Jeremiah Cook
Jeremiah Cook

More accurately, "what she wants for herself",.

Camden Bennett
Camden Bennett

If Yukino wants to defend Yui and Hachiman, then she has no problem doing that, among doing other things. There is a good reason to split hairs.

Jaxson Gomez
Jaxson Gomez

see

A little hair splitting maybe, but not too much.

Thomas Walker
Thomas Walker

howso, when Haruno upped the pressure on her talking Sagami it was ok to go from claass to class instead of focusing on leading committee? The only thing I remember is Yukino telling her to "just go home" when Haruno was flirting with Hachiman.

Landon Allen
Landon Allen

She gets Haruno to help her with the music number to buy time for Hachiman to find Sagami. Haruno obstinately refuses and says, basically, "What can you do to make me?" to which Yukino replies "I will be in your debt. Read into that what you will." Haruno is clearly impressed with that answer and helps her.

Angel Martinez
Angel Martinez

I want to get into this series. LN or anime? I'm assuming the manga is pointless.

Austin Taylor
Austin Taylor

asking for help, or making a deal for help, is not "standing up to her". Standing up for herself would be Yukino wanting something and going against those, or perhaps negotiating and compromising, who tried to make her do something else.

Mason Foster
Mason Foster

yes to ask for help. but Yukino was not going against anyone who had contrary wishes to something she wanted, not "standing up for herself" just making a deal for help. In this case filling in while people try to locate Sagami for whom Yukino is being doormat

Kevin Davis
Kevin Davis

anime is fastest way to see if it's what you like. That said, you have to judge S1 and S2 separately, S1 is more humor and entertainment, S2 is about serious topics

Elijah Collins
Elijah Collins

But Yukino did negotiate with Haruno during that scene. That's the entire point.

Jack Edwards
Jack Edwards

Yukino only helping the festival schedule there, she's not going for anything of benefit to her personally at all but just indirect way of helping others. Asking for help for benefit of others isn't going against someone for her own desires or dreams or future. She has massive hangup in doing that, has never done it

Evan Hall
Evan Hall

She was standing up to her herself considering in the LN 8man wanted to intervene to help Yukino but was stopped by her.
In the Anime it was Yui trying to step in instead but stopped by 8man.

Robert Green
Robert Green

perhaps negotiating and compromising

That's exactly what she did with Haruno. You say "making a deal to help" isn't standing up to her, but then negotiating a deal is?

Matthew Rogers
Matthew Rogers

What the fuck does that have to do with anything. Why does everything have to benefit Yukino personally for it to count? Yukino stood up against Haruno in that moment in time. Some user made a point that Yukino never stood up to Haruno and this scene proves that wrong.

Luke Nguyen
Luke Nguyen

Yukino is not hard to understand. She is unable to assert herself into chasing after what she personally wants. She is willing to help others, but throughout the series "helping others" becomes an excuse she uses to actually go for what she desires for herself.

It was the case with Sagami in the Festival arc. Yukino wanted to run it, but couldn't do it because if it's just for her, she'll never act. Sagami gave her an excuse, so she acted.

It happened again in the Student Council arc. Iroha gave her an excuse and wanting to stop Hachiman from delivering that rotten speech gave her another incentive.

You could argue the same is true for 'genuine'. Hachiman wants it, Yukino resolutely pledges to fulfill his wish for it. But as her character song shows, she also wants it as well.

The student council arc was arguably her high water mark in terms of asserting what she wants, but even then it was all under the guise of helping someone else (Sagami). Haruno recognizes that Yukino is showing an impressive side towards the end of that arc. But it doesn't last.

Cooper Bell
Cooper Bell

It only doesn't last because Hachiman destroyed her self-confidence in volume 8. Which was the initial point that was brought up.

Lincoln Wilson
Lincoln Wilson

He did, but you can't blame him. Because he didn't know. Because she never said anything. As the chapter title states,

Silently, Yukinoshita Yukino makes her decision.

Ultimately it was her fault she got hurt.

Hunter Gomez
Hunter Gomez

Yukinofags fail to realize that 8man is not something she wants . She isn't interested in romance with him.

Andrew Perez
Andrew Perez

No, that's not what the title refers to. The decision Yukino makes is to do whatever it takes to stop Hachiman from hurting himself.

Logan Anderson
Logan Anderson

No, that IS what it's referring to. And it comes up again in vol 9 when Yui points out to Yukino that she never told them about what she wanted and people will never know if she doesn't tell them.

I agree that wanting to help Hachiman was an underlying motive for Yukino, but she never communicated that. Or the fact that she wanted StuCo president for herself as well. She never communicated anything. She made her underlying motives a secret then got upset when others didn't understand.

Yukino projects her expectations onto people and then judges them for it. Remember "help me, someday"? Remember what Hachiman remarked right after it

That may have been, I think, the very first wish that Yukinoshita Yukino had ever uttered.

She almost certainly never asked Hayama to help her in the past which he failed to do. She just expected it of him like she just expected things from Haruno as well. That's what made her wish so significant in vol 9. She stepped across that silent distance and communicated her expectations to him.

This all used to be well understood. Why have people forgotten about it?

Mason Roberts
Mason Roberts

He did, but you can't blame him. Because he didn't know
You can blame him, because he didn't care.
Watari himself states that even if Yukino had told him the truth, of she had told him that she truly desired it Hachiman would have still done the same thing.

It's also why when Meguri tells him what she wanted to happen and 8man asks himself if he could go back to make a different choice that he wouldn't have changed a thing.

Cameron Clark
Cameron Clark

Does Sensei make an appearance in Volume R?

Oliver Reyes
Oliver Reyes

It's not so much that he didn't care, it's more of a "what's done is done, no use in crying over spilt milk" type of thing. He approached it wrongly, he fucked up and now what's done is done.

Jack Thompson
Jack Thompson

Hachiman himself alludes to that in vol 9. He states that he always looks into people's words, tries to find the hidden meaning, and therefore he'd get it wrong anyway.

But there's an element of assumption there.

Jackson Taylor
Jackson Taylor

It's not so much that he didn't care
Considering Watari went out of his way to say that even if Yukino had told him the truth Hachiman wouldn't have done things differently it is that.

8man doesn't want her away from the club.

Isaiah Cruz
Isaiah Cruz

Hachiman (Volume 9):
That’s why when Yukinoshita said she was going to run as a candidate, even if she had said it out of instinct, I probably wouldn’t have taken the meaning of those words as they were. I would think there were other factors involved and try to dig out the real intent behind them only to be mistaken in the end. People see only what they want to see as well as hear only what they want to hear. I was no exception.

Watari’s thoughts:
Up until now, Hachiman has always been using his own logic as a way to make a conjecture about the feelings of others. That’s just how he calculates things. But, feelings are neither logical nor rational. He knows those feelings, but at the same time is mortified by them. Because of Hachiman’s experiences, he is very sensitive towards negative feelings, and so liable to hypersensitivity. This is why he is always skeptical with respect to any positive feelings. Because of this, as a kind of defense, he always has the habit of taking those positive
feelings and ascribing them to his own scale. Such thinking is not easily altered just by a few words from anyone.

It wouldn't have mattered what Yukino or anyone elese told Hachiman, he would have twisted it into something entirely different.

Ethan Moore
Ethan Moore

I think it's more likely WW was referring to this

It's not that Hachiman "doesn't care". It's just that Hachiman twists and over-analyzes things to the point of getting it wrong.

Cooper Roberts
Cooper Roberts

Sure, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't care. In fact he cares too much, mostly like you said, about keeping Yukino in the club. He just went about it in the wrong way.

Michael Smith
Michael Smith

Why did sensei start the club?

Jeremiah Collins
Jeremiah Collins

Well I agree with all that.

That being said Yukino still should have told him and she's at fault for staying silent and not doing. Although God's PoV (WW's) tells it would not have made a difference, Yukino doesn't know that. And ultimately neither does Hachiman since he can only go by his assumptions.

In the end, what Yui said is true. You have to communicate through things. Even if you get things wrong, struggle and stumble en route, you will eventually understand. But that understanding doesn't just come gift wrapped from heaven.

Joseph Anderson
Joseph Anderson

8man thinks Yui is a nice girl
8man thinks Yukino is a strong girl
8man thinks Yui and Yukino are super good friends
Is he ever right?

Jonathan Cooper
Jonathan Cooper

Potential marriage partners

Zachary Campbell
Zachary Campbell

She uses the club like a spider web to catch cute loner boys so she can steal their purity. Hachiman wasn't the first and he won't be the last.

Henry Gonzalez
Henry Gonzalez

Is he ever right?

Nope.

Josiah Gray
Josiah Gray

Nope, she wants him to marry her and bear his children

Bentley Wright
Bentley Wright

She won't marry him. In fact she will lose all interest after he hits 20 or so.

She only like the cute young boys because they remind her of that boy she never gave the love letter to when she was in high school. She is banging that boy vicariously through all her teenage conquests.

I mean that's why she became a teacher to begin with.

Nolan Roberts
Nolan Roberts

Considering that she is more desperate for marriage, and 8man just wants to be a house-husband, I doubt it.

And besides, 8man has got his 8inch, when Sensei get's the 8inch, she will never let go of 8man no matter what.

Matthew Parker
Matthew Parker

you know how we have containment boards here

same thing

Andrew Powell
Andrew Powell

It's obvious what 8man needs to do with YY. Just have sex with both of them, then when they find out, tell each that the other one manipulated him into it, he is terribly sorry, and he will only ever love that girl.

That'll get them to kill each other then he can just go pick up Saki and have it done.

William Hall
William Hall

he can just go pick up Saki and have it done.
why would he go and pick up a literal who?

Jordan Myers
Jordan Myers

Because she's the hottest.

Owen Davis
Owen Davis

If he did that do you really think YYandere wouldn't send him on a nce boat?

Wyatt Butler
Wyatt Butler

If he did that do you really think YYandere wouldn't send him on a nce boat?
I think he could escape the boat. Assuming he arranged to have law enforcement there ASAP to arrest the survivor and lock her away for a good long while.

Eli Bailey
Eli Bailey

Yui supplies the MAX COFFEE now. It is a girlfriend's right to give her lover MAX COFFEE.

Hunter Cook
Hunter Cook

Oh boy muh blue board

Xavier Turner
Xavier Turner

The one where it's drawn by a designer who isn't garbage.

Even the Idolmaster anime character designs look better than this shit

Get someone like Kantoku, Peko, or Noiji Itou

Cameron Morris
Cameron Morris

Oregiaru Zoku

Hunter Bell
Hunter Bell

survivor

Parker Brooks
Parker Brooks

Yui has only been presented as the paragon of niceness by 8man. Is it really a shock to people that Yui would walk all over other people just to get with 8man? I was never in doubt and I thought most people knew that Yui mostly cares about 8man at the end of the day.

Jacob Butler
Jacob Butler

Got me thinking, if Yui is willing to step on her precious friend's heart for 8man what would she do to a girl who isn't that close to Yui that liked 8man?

Levi Campbell
Levi Campbell

Not sure but Iroha should probably sleep with a knife under her pillow.

Blake Kelly
Blake Kelly

implying Komachi wouldn't slaughter them all back

Jordan King
Jordan King

you are the one that is wrong, asking for help being a drummer in filler band act is not standing up. Yukino has never stood up for herself against anyone, ever

Austin Rogers
Austin Rogers

Harming Komachi is out of the question for anyone trying to win 8man over, honestly
Saika too, probably

Thomas Morgan
Thomas Morgan

both Yui and Yukino think of Iroha as cute little Kohai, they'll never see her coming

Camden Howard
Camden Howard

Have you actually read the scene in the LN? I don't think you have or you wouldn't be peddling this nonsense.

Carson King
Carson King

Too bad that Yukino alone scares the shit out of her, and Yui is the only one Iroha is weary of.

Jordan Campbell
Jordan Campbell

Well luck for Iroha she likes Hayama and both YY don't give a damn.

Isaac Myers
Isaac Myers

All this talk about ANOTHER R's ending and whatnot
Still no translation

I ain't gonna buy any of your bullshit, my negroes

Nolan King
Nolan King

Surprise Harunon.

Cameron Mitchell
Cameron Mitchell

But you'd buy the bullshit if it's given to you in the form of a translation?

How will you even know that's right?

Hudson Cook
Hudson Cook

Reminder that s1 art was uneven, sometimes Yukino had proper dainty slender fingers, and other times these blacksmith's beefy mitts

Gabriel Bell
Gabriel Bell

It'd be indeed more believable, because not even the most dedicated troll would bother making up 300~ pages of bullshit. Not to mention it has to be very high quality bullshit for people to actually fall for it.

For example haganai's ending never got translated and even to this day there are still so many contradicting spoilers every time people discuss it.

Christian Roberts
Christian Roberts

"you're too good for Yukino-chan, Hikigaya-kun. Just pull on this silk tie."

Austin Robinson
Austin Robinson

You don't need 300 pages of bullshit. Just 299 accurate pages and 1 page of bullshit would cover it, mostly.

Gabriel Lewis
Gabriel Lewis

Jesus, Komachi's VA is a fucking womanlet.

And that's a beautiful thing

John Wright
John Wright

and very artistic.

also, was that implied lesbo attraction stuff with Iroha's VA real?

Levi Cooper
Levi Cooper

I don't think there's anything "real" about these VA events.

Mason Murphy
Mason Murphy

Hachiman worries about Yukino constantly. Yui? pffftttt....

Jonathan Thomas
Jonathan Thomas

Iroha will never wait for you with a heavy bag she knows she can just hand to you

Christian Jenkins
Christian Jenkins

That line would have been too cool for Hachiman.

Justin Ross
Justin Ross

thumbnail always looks like yukino has nekomimi

Benjamin Sanchez
Benjamin Sanchez

It's an actor's job to pretend.

Christopher Taylor
Christopher Taylor

the middle one has the best design by far

but they really were sloppy, they fucked up eye layering on every single one

Jack Taylor
Jack Taylor

'Ok Yui, you can do this, just confess your feelings to Hikki, and everything will be fine'

Dominic Butler
Dominic Butler

start to confess
cell phone rings
8man: I think you better answer that

Sebastian Russell
Sebastian Russell

1 > 2
1 > 2
2 = 1

Adrian Powell
Adrian Powell

I like the new chick they added though
I don't want her to win or anything but she's cute
This one

Cameron Lewis
Cameron Lewis

Sensei a best
I want to date Sensei and bitch about second hand smoke
I want her to be possessive and keep texting me non-stop
I want to get Sensei flustered with out of nowhere compliments.

Justin Price
Justin Price

S1

Jacob Diaz
Jacob Diaz

8man should pin Yui down and have his way with her without her consent.

Ian Jenkins
Ian Jenkins

implying it wouldn't be Yui pulling the White Album 2 on Hachiman
He won't be able to stand when she's done with him.

Owen Reyes
Owen Reyes

they are *voice* actors/actresses

getting physical

Luis Long
Luis Long

Method acting.

Nicholas Nguyen
Nicholas Nguyen

So Yui x Iroha end confirmed?

Ayden Walker
Ayden Walker

Yes

Carson Gray
Carson Gray

The thread should have ended as this post, it's objectively correct.

Henry Cox
Henry Cox

the introductions with them calling the audience loners
Are they even allowed to do these things to the fragile otaku hearts?

Robert Hernandez
Robert Hernandez

Who wouldn't want to be with this cutie patootie?

Nolan Powell
Nolan Powell

So you think Yui would want her Hikki in every way? I bet she has built up some frustration she wants to grind into her pelvis.

Joseph Reyes
Joseph Reyes

Otaku know they're weird outcasts that have built a community off of a weirder hobby. Pretty sure they generally have good humor about these types of things.

Josiah Hughes
Josiah Hughes

8man should deep kiss one YY in front of the other. It would be funny to see one be a bit flustered and the other one a bit pissed.

Nicholas Bell
Nicholas Bell

how can one girl be so cute and adoring

Levi Young
Levi Young

Alright guys enough of this reading in to deep crap and shipping wars time for serious talk, ready?

What would be worse ending?
For me worst would be that, this was a great experience in High school and they will remember it and treasure it for the rest of their lives. I swear if this happens I will hit my head until I forget about the series.

What would be best ending?
Besides a Harem ending probably him choosing Yui cause yeah im a Yuifag.

What would be meh/I don't care ending?
Him choosing Yukinon or even Iroha, would rather want Iroha in all honesty. Just dont want a cliche ending have guts and choose a girl.

Hunter Diaz
Hunter Diaz

Do Yukinofags feel vindicated that Yukino likes 8man in ANOTHER despite not being dependent on him in any way and him not trying to cross the bridge for her?

Hunter Allen
Hunter Allen

It's always interesting to see that Yuifags have rather bad grammar and punctuation.

Gavin Morris
Gavin Morris

No. Yukinofags never doubted this. It's always other anons that tried to push that notion.

Andrew Lee
Andrew Lee

its Friday and I'm drunk go be a grammer nazi somewhere else.

Daniel Murphy
Daniel Murphy

I want Yui to win badly. I am glad she on ANOTHER in such a sweet manner but I still want her to win in the main series. I think she is done playing little miss nice girl and is ready to fight for her Hikki.

I would prefer Yukino winning over Iroha winning. Mainly because if WW isn't going to make Yukino win he should give it to Yui and him giving it to a side girl would feel cheap plus Irohafags are extremely annoying so I would rather not have them gloat forever make these thread unbearable.

1. Yui
2. Yui bitter
3. Harem
4. Frendship
5. Yukino
6. Loner

Nathan Brown
Nathan Brown

Yeah but it is as solid proof as you can get that her feelings for him are real and not based off of dependency or flags.

Dominic Williams
Dominic Williams

I'm just saying that it's interesting.

Christopher Ward
Christopher Ward

Are these meme status yet? I feel that we can throw them out like the character songs.

Parker Gutierrez
Parker Gutierrez

Does Sensei show up in volume R? Does she give Hachiman a speech? If not, then not even Sensei supports the Hachiman Yui pairing.

Lucas Flores
Lucas Flores

Don't do this to me user especially when I'm drunk. My emotions get kind wacky.

Easton Reyes
Easton Reyes

WA2 won't happen in the main series. Things will go well.

Yuifags may not have perfect grammar but at least they aren't asshurt shitposters.

Lincoln Taylor
Lincoln Taylor

How does Yukino plan to steal Hikigaya-kun from his lover?

Luke Campbell
Luke Campbell

No need to be so defensive. Also the main series will most certainly not have a good ending for at least one character.

Jacob Lee
Jacob Lee

I was implying that ANOTHER will have a WA2 development and that the main series will be different.

most certainly not have a good ending for at least one character.
Well no shit. It is a lover triangle.

Lucas Martin
Lucas Martin

But you said
things will go well
In what way?

Jeremiah Martinez
Jeremiah Martinez

What would be worse ending?
Basically the same as you said. They all go their own ways having solved none of their bullshit problems.

What would be best ending?
Sensei end.

What would be meh/I don't care ending?
Either YY winning.

John White
John White

I think at the end of the day they will come together thanks to the bond they have built. Even if they hurt eachother and one girl gets especially hurt they can build better bonds from the ashes. Yui and Yukino need to settle the 8man issue if they ever intend on being true friends.

Charles Hill
Charles Hill

Oh, yeah, that;s not going to happen.

Anthony Sanchez
Anthony Sanchez

Why not? Let's make the assumption that Yukino wins the Hikkibowl as our example. Yui will be devastated but she has seen it coming for a while now and she promised to not abandon Yukino out of jealousy. Yui still cherishes the club and even though romance with 8man is the most important thing it isn't the only thing. Yukino doesn't want a lose a friend and 8man doesn't want Yui to leave either, Yui is not going to stop caring about them. Maybe Yui doesn't show up for a week or two but in a few months they will be fine.

In ANOTHER Yukino helps Yui win the Hikkidowl and the club is fine. Yukino and Yui are still good friends.

Andrew Price
Andrew Price

Yui will be devastated but she has seen it coming for a while now and she promised to not abandon Yukino out of jealousy

The only reason Yui was able to promise that is because she was fully convinced that there was nothing going on between Hachiman and Yukino.
http://imgur.com/a/cnokz

Yui has been in it for Hachiman since day one. In ANOTHER she gets that, in the main series she won't. One of the other differences will be that Yukino can stay friends with Yui even if she doesn't end up with Hachiman, but Yui can't.

Henry Nelson
Henry Nelson

The only reason Yui was able to promise that is because she was fully convinced that there was nothing going on between Hachiman and Yukino.
It has meaning in a symbolic sense. It is something that has been said and it will be addressed somehow. We are reading story so even if it matters what she thinks they will never date we can't discount the fat she said it. She will either abandon Yukino proving that statement to be false or she will rise up for her. Yui wants to solve her request at the end of vol 11.

Also she left them last time not because she thought they were dating but because 8man made her cry and hurt her because he told her to stop being nice to him. Both issues were patched up at the same time.

Yui has been in it for Hachiman since day one.
He is very important to her but she has been shown to value other things. To Yui the club has meaning outside of being the room 8man is in after school.

One of the other differences will be that Yukino can stay friends with Yui even if she doesn't end up with Hachiman, but Yui can't.
Yui can. Yui helped Yukino as much as she could. Yukino doesn't like him much to begin with so losing 8man isn't much of an issue to her.

Carson White
Carson White

Yui isn't a nice girl and being Hikki's woman has been her most important thing. This has never been doubted because it hasn't been implied to be wrong. Yui is done with 8man and Yukino the second he picks Yukino.

Joshua Ward
Joshua Ward

Just like how Haruno and Sensei are done with Hachiman the second he picks Yui.

P O T T E R Y

Luke Diaz
Luke Diaz

why is your filename a sword?

Jose Carter
Jose Carter

So are we just going to ignore the Jojo references in the series?

Joshua Price
Joshua Price

It's just one reference, from what I remember and it doesn't impact anything really, so who cares. There's tons of references in Yahari, I don't see why the Jojo references are anything special.

Xavier Hughes
Xavier Hughes

I think there have been a couple other references. Too lazy to look them up.

Easton Butler
Easton Butler

is it true that hachiman is into idolshit

Levi Gomez
Levi Gomez

Yukino should drop 8man and not pursue him. He is a good fit for Yui and they have mutual feelings. Yukino is smart, pretty and rich so a gut who is smart, handsome, and rich like Hayama fits her plus her family wouldn't oppose that.

Anthony Thomas
Anthony Thomas

Hayama is too shallow, and needs to be brought down then built back up. What he needs is somebody below him on the social ladder, and yet somebody he'd look up to as his savior. Genuine etc

David Miller
David Miller

Hayama is not gay. The point is Yukino should find a better guy than 8man and leave him to be happy with his Yui.

Lucas Sanchez
Lucas Sanchez

Hachiman and Yui have absolutrly nothing in common. As soon as they have their first conversation about literally anything in another, they'll realize that there's nothing there.

Jacob Bell
Jacob Bell

I didn't mean to imply Hachiman, but seriously, if Hayama and Yukino get together, it would basically make both of their character arcs pointless. Even Hayama and Yui would make a better arc for Hayama.

Carter Garcia
Carter Garcia

Even Hayama and Yui would make a better arc for Hayama.
Yui only wants her Hikki though. You can't just change who you love on a dime.

it would basically make both of their character arcs pointless
They both find love that was always there.

Is there is a will there is a way.

Oliver Harris
Oliver Harris

Yuipollfag at it again.

Jayden Reyes
Jayden Reyes

ANOTHER sort of kills the theory that Yukino likes Hayama. I don't think Hayama likes Yukino but I doubt she likes him.

Zachary Harris
Zachary Harris

Yuipollfag at it again.

Christian Ward
Christian Ward

But I am not Yuipollfag. I don't think Yui will win and I don't think Yukino likes Hayama so therefore I can't be him.

William Turner
William Turner

It's hard to judge this. I don't want to resort to blogshit, but I think that they still have a chance, even if there's not much in common.

As long as they don't have fundamental disagreements that just cannot be resolved, I think their relationship can thrive.

That was just an example. Honestly, I just do not see Hayama and Yukino working precisely because it's ~so perfect~. Think of the name of the story even, My Romantic Comedy is Wrong as Expected.

For a secondary protagonist to just end up shoehorned into a relationship that was planned for her for X amount of time, I don't see it happening.

Perhaps if both characters receive significant development - to the point of being destroyed at the foundation and rebuilt, it can happen, but that's not there.

I don't know if these two are a couple that you like, or you just want to push Yukino away so that Hikki can be with Yui happily, but you have to accept something.

Somebody's smile will not be protected.

Now, I love Yui. I want Yui to win the most.

I also like Yukino. I wouldn't burn merchandise if she, or Iroha, or Sensei, or whoever it is won. I don't want to see any of them cry.

But it will happen, somebody will lose, and that is how things will be.

If you want to think about this, think about actually solving this problem, and not just pushing characters together because it is convenient.

Justin Cruz
Justin Cruz

Somebody's smile will not be protected.
I know it in my mind but my heart doesn't believe that.

If you want to think about this, think about actually solving this problem
The more I think the more I think about disaster.

Logan Williams
Logan Williams

But it will happen, somebody will lose
Just because someone loses that doesn't mean it has to hurt. Yukino is completely fine on the outside in ANOTHER.

James Gonzalez
James Gonzalez

I don't know how well Yukino can take rejection. Visibly, she will be fine. But on the inside, there will be nothing left. The two people she opened her heart to, and this is what she got out of it.

Yui, Yui will cry. It will break my heart to see her cry. But at the end of the day, I think she will take it better than Yukino.

This all almost makes me want an Iroha win just so that both YY can still lean on each other for support. If somebody went and claimed Hachiman right now, this is the only way I see that won't leave somebody broken.

However, the story is still developing. Perhaps newer novels will set somebody up to be stronger, more capable of standing on their own.

It depends on how it is handled, of course. I have not read ANOTHER, but Hachiman and Yui getting together would leave a different impact on Yukino if they did it earlier than Hachiman and Yui getting together right after Genuine 2.0. Same applies to behavior. In the main story, anything goes. If in ANOTHER there are clear signs where Hachiman is gravitating, Yukino will have time to adapt - her world will be changing, but won't be falling apart at the seams.

Leo Reed
Leo Reed

ANOTHER sort of implies that Yukino is going to keep her feelings to herself and never let the other two know that she has issues. I think that is more hurtful than getting rejected.

Jayden James
Jayden James

It depends on how strong the feelings are. A small crush might be better off suppressed, but keeping inside Genuine 2.0 level things is a fast way to White Album 2 your entire life.

Ethan Diaz
Ethan Diaz

I think the implication she is closing herself off is the worst thing. The romance aspect isn't that important, it is the fact that she is shutting off. It think both Yui and Yukino are best off in the long run with honest feelings and honest rejection.

Austin Campbell
Austin Campbell

It's not that bad. Hachiman turned his back on wanting something genuine first. Yukino is simply going along with what Hachiman and Yui want.

Brandon Johnson
Brandon Johnson

Yeah but she created a wall between her and them and is on the road to making it permanent. What they want is not what is best for her.

Jackson Hill
Jackson Hill

There is something that I want. I don’t need anything else other than that. All I want is just that alone. However, the circumstances that I place myself in does not allow me to obtain it. Still, all I did was allow myself to be lost in the conclusions laid down by others. Really, I have noticed this since a long time ago. Things that are lost will definitely not become beautiful memories. I know that if you do not stretch out your hand to grasp it, you will regret it your entire life. That’s why, there is something that I want. Yet, the things that you can obtain with your own two hands are always so shallow and vague. I simply cannot have faith in such things. More than that, there is the fact that the most unreliable existence of all is ourselves. Hence, the wish that our relationships would grow deeper would surely not come true as well. Naturally, since some time back, at some place, where both sentimentality and resignation were mixed together, I had since taken a step back and drew a line between us. However this cannot continue on for long. I have always known that this would all fall apart sooner or later. Though I knew this, I have been averting my eyes from it. The circumstances that he and I were in were different, except for maybe just that one point, where he and I held the same worries. No, that’s not it. It’s not just the circumstances alone. Just about everything else was different. Yet, why is it that the both of us would arrive at the same conclusion? Even so however, the answer that he gave me probably wasn’t the only one he prepared. That’s why, when I decided not to raise the question explicitly, we both pretended to not see it at all. I do not want to acknowledge the uncomfortable truth. What is lost will never come back. I don’t want to have any expectations. That’s why I avoided the issue. Actually, maybe, I don’t want it after all.

Ian Martinez
Ian Martinez

Hachiman created that wall between them first, by deciding that he doesn't want long meanigful relationships. He gives up on wanting to know the girls better in ANOTHER and he simply goes for Yui. That's the entire point to ANOTHER and Yui as a character, they're not the genuine one.

Asher Wright
Asher Wright

Yukino actively made the choice to support Yui with a cowardly action. She is the one who wants to hide her imperfections in snow.

All 8man ever did was pay more attention to Yui and blew off genuine.

Carter Rogers
Carter Rogers

Yet, the things that you can obtain with your own two hands are always so shallow and vague
Hence, the wish that our relationships would grow deeper would surely not come true as well

This is the point to ANOTHER. Hachiman doesn't want long lasting meaningful relationships, he goes for Yui. Yukino simply supports them.

Joseph Hill
Joseph Hill

What if he still goes for Yui in vol 12? The key to ANOTHER isn't the girl he wants.

Carson Taylor
Carson Taylor

Yeah that's not happening.

Camden Bailey
Camden Bailey

It might. We know she wants it. I don't think this story has much all to do with which one he wants to bang the most. Pursuit of genuine is the main thing.

Samuel Reyes
Samuel Reyes

Pursuit of genuine is the main thing.
Sure and as ANOTHER has illustrated, Yui is not the road to genuine.

Hudson White
Hudson White

Yui is the road to Yui, ANOTHER is a not genuine road. The main series might have a road with Yui.

Gavin Smith
Gavin Smith

I understand that you're a Yui fan, but Yui's purpose in the story is to be the fake one.

Owen Stewart
Owen Stewart

Her purpose was to be the glue that held the three together and the main romantic interest for 7 volumes.

Ayden Myers
Ayden Myers

Sure, but also to be the opposite coin of what genuine is.

Gavin Walker
Gavin Walker

He can have Yui and genuine, these don't contradict. Yukino isn't genuine either, she has been running away from her feelings.

Oliver Jones
Oliver Jones

He has Yui in another and guess what, it's not genuine. So Yui and genuine don't go hand in hand together.

David Foster
David Foster

This is why there never should have been an AU. All it did was delay the main series even further and cause a bunch of shit flinging.

If Watari had any respect for his readers he would have stuck to his guns and given us the ending. No consolation prizes, no half hearted decisions. Just a clear concrete ending, the one he wanted to tell.

Logan Nelson
Logan Nelson

Yep. That's my problem as well. Now we all have to endure months of shitposting until we get the actual ending and see how all of it makes sense.

Jose Lopez
Jose Lopez

Watari pretty much gave his entire fanbase a giant middlefinger with a please buy more of my products sign attached to it.

Josiah Torres
Josiah Torres

She genuinely loves him and he is willing to explore. There is nothing wrong with that.

So Yui and genuine don't go hand in hand together.
Maybe in this instance.

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