Gundam is disregarded as a toy commercial

Aaron Hernandez
Aaron Hernandez

Gundam is disregarded as a toy commercial
It has a better story, more memorable characters, and more emotional moments than 99% of anime
Meanwhile autists spend thousands of dollars on waifu toys from shitty LN adaptations

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Justin Fisher
Justin Fisher

All anime are commercials.

Thomas Wilson
Thomas Wilson

/m/ plz go

Jordan Murphy
Jordan Murphy

Yeah, but Seed and Seed Destiny suck, so it balances itself out. Seriously, Kira was the prototype LN Mary Sue protagonist, before self-insert LN protagonists were popular.

Angel Bailey
Angel Bailey

ayy

Mason White
Mason White

Another worthless thread by a phone fag.

Thomas Harris
Thomas Harris

How much did you spend on your phone instead of a working PC?

And you have the nerve to talk about someone spending money on different molded plastics than you.

Zachary Roberts
Zachary Roberts

It has a better story, more memorable characters, and more emotional moments than 99% of anime
Good one.

Anthony Myers
Anthony Myers

dumb mobileposter

/m/

Charles James
Charles James

https://desustorage.org/a/search/image/fk-F-hHm1-1ny6-IYmLopA/

How pathetic is your life OP?

Connor Lopez
Connor Lopez

Gundam is disregarded as a toy commercial
It is?

Noah Cooper
Noah Cooper

The last few gundams have been pretty bad tho

James Perry
James Perry

bottom pic
How is dab an anime?

Julian Bell
Julian Bell

You look more pathetic here, bud.

Andrew Jones
Andrew Jones

Gundam is disregarded as a toy commercial
Well it honestly was, but it was a very good toy commercial.

Xavier Jenkins
Xavier Jenkins

I wish I had a White Base toy as a kid

James Morgan
James Morgan

AMURO

Luke Gonzalez
Luke Gonzalez

CHAAAAR
YOKUMOOO

Alexander Walker
Alexander Walker

MOEAGARE MOEAGARE MOEAGARE GANDAMU

Nicholas Campbell
Nicholas Campbell

KIMI YOOO HASHIREE

Luke Walker
Luke Walker

MSG is better than Zeta.

Connor Campbell
Connor Campbell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DapUFO6YD20&index=6&list=PLE234F313FF53A39C
in the next episode of mobile suit gundam

Joseph Hall
Joseph Hall

MSG is one of the most important shows ever made in the entire world. Everything else is just its sequels no matter how good.

Tyler Rivera
Tyler Rivera

Gundam
Story
Pick one

Blake Butler
Blake Butler

Stop spamming this, faggot. Fuck off.

Robert Harris
Robert Harris

I didn't even think Zeta was that good, even disregarding significance I felt like MSG was a more solid show in general, Zeta was all over the place and felt really incoherent, the only thing it did better was the animation.

Brandon Cook
Brandon Cook

This senpai

Nicholas Thompson
Nicholas Thompson

Doesn't matter because ZZ is the real best Gundam.

Noah Martinez
Noah Martinez

It's the best Gundam for waifus. I don't think anyone could argue with that.

Owen Perez
Owen Perez

I enjoyed Zeta but for some reason hate the original. I don't know if it's just dislike for Amuro but the entire experience feels somehow campy.

Christopher Hernandez
Christopher Hernandez

At least I'm not spending money chasing after iterations of the same robot in different colors.

Christopher Allen
Christopher Allen

Puru two a cute.

Jonathan Wright
Jonathan Wright

The music and designs and general style of the show is campy or retro as hell. Sort of like Star Trek (the original series.) That's part of its charm. If you see it that way it actually gets better with age.

Chase Lewis
Chase Lewis

Do waifus even watch anime?

Noah Bennett
Noah Bennett

But regarding the retro-aspects I don't think Zeta is that different. And still I enjoyed Zeta much more while considered the original to be occasionally even a painful watch.

Owen Gonzalez
Owen Gonzalez

Why are Purus made for suffering?

Grayson Rodriguez
Grayson Rodriguez

animes

This will never NOT get me mad.

Jordan Price
Jordan Price

Is Turn A any good?

Zachary Fisher
Zachary Fisher

As far as Gundam series go, yes, it's one of the better ones. It might get a bit boring if you attempt to marathon the early episodes, that's a caveat. It has a solid science-fictiony feel without much shounen battling crap. There's not too much slapping/punching. And there's a didgeridoo.

Nathan Morris
Nathan Morris

Mecha is shit

implying I buy merch

Lucas Davis
Lucas Davis

Seed is bad meme

Elijah Ward
Elijah Ward

Muv Luv >>> Gundam.
Gundam is muh willpower muh magical fantasy robots (mostly).

Muv Luv is hard sci-fi with realistic robots and a very deep setting.

Henry Brown
Henry Brown

I thought early Camille made Zeta hard to watch as well, but I get what you're saying about 0079. I think it probably had something to do with how a bunch of untrained children were able to single-handedly fend off wave after wave of battle-hardened Zeon troops. It's also funny how all the adult refugees on White Base were useless and complaining, while the kids were running everything.

Zeta at least had more competent pilots, so it didn't feel as ridiculous when they kept winning.

But it's weird how ZZ went back to novices piloting Gundams, but it didn't feel as weird because the series didn't take itself seriously while they were in the learning phase.

Jason Long
Jason Long

Mecha
Realistic

Gabriel Edwards
Gabriel Edwards

I really wish /m/ would stick to their containment bord and fap over gundam there, without spilling the seed overboard. I really can relate to liking a single fucking show for years, but the level of autism there is seriously annoying and over the fucking top. I know two hardcore /m/ guys irl and with one you can't even speak properly without comparing everything to gundam. Its like an overused meme that went really, really wrong. Just stop it, its embarassing to watch those mechashit baits here once in a while.

Lincoln Clark
Lincoln Clark

hard sci-fi
realistic robots

Adam Allen
Adam Allen

Don't mistake one troll for a fanbase in general.
Also, all anime can be posted on Sup Forums, even Naruto. /m/ doesn't make mecha /a/-unrelated just like /u/ doesn't make yuri shows /a/-unrelated.

Xavier Morris
Xavier Morris

This post is wrong on many levels and simplifies Gundam in a laughable way, but I actually agree Muv Luv is better. They pretty much have the same pacifist message combined with drama and love on the battlefield. Muv Luv is "harder" scifi as more details are explored but calling it "hard" or "realistic" is still a super stretch.

But unarguably part of my love for Muv Luv is the fact I'm an eternal manchild and even if Gundam has its moments of suffering the portrayal of war feel much more "realistic" and grim in Muv Luv as it isn't really sugarcoated in any occasion.

Parker Stewart
Parker Stewart

I know two hardcore /m/ guys irl and with one you can't even speak properly without comparing everything to gundam
I'm not /m/, but wouldn't constantly comparing stuff to one of the biggest and most entry-level /m/ franchises be a casual thing rather than a hardcore thing?

Hudson Parker
Hudson Parker

Muv Luv
realistic robots
very deep setting

Really user? Really?

Angel Reed
Angel Reed

Meanwhile autists spend thousands of dollars on waifu toys from shitty LN adaptations
People spend more on gunpla than BDs and figures.

Owen Flores
Owen Flores

Gundam is the reason anybody is aware of what a flexatone is. Gundam is to flexatones as Zelda is to ocarinas.

Cooper Rogers
Cooper Rogers

/m/

Zachary Lee
Zachary Lee

What the fuck is a flexatone?

Julian Kelly
Julian Kelly

Muv Luv is hard sci-fi with realistic robots and a very deep setting.
Did you even read Alternative?

Henry Garcia
Henry Garcia

You're not alone, I had to look it up

Carson Clark
Carson Clark

I am really sory to say that from experience with those two people, one which is a /m/ tripfag and second a n adult buyfag that reviews mecha toys for several companies, they fucking suck as representatives for the fannbase. All mecha related threads Ive seen over the years were pure garbage and "gundam is the pinnacle of scifi anime" circlejerks. I personally grew alergic to this genere so much I filter all even slightly mecha related seasonal shows due to how anoying the discussions over them get.
Don't know why that happened. I'm not proficient enough in the genere nor ever want to know more about it from what I already know, to distijguish this.

Sebastian Diaz
Sebastian Diaz

So that's how they make the newtype sound.

Asher Kelly
Asher Kelly

But still you're here. Funny thing.

But I wouldn't know as I don't frequent /m/. There's not much wrong with the mecha threads in Sup Forums.

Noah Adams
Noah Adams

Muv-Luv isn't realistic, but it at least tries to justify the use of mecha on the battlefield over tanks and jets. And it at least acknowledges the amount of G-forces that you would experience in that sort of environment. Whether or not the solutions presented are practical is another matter though.

Jose Hernandez
Jose Hernandez

not Turn A
shit taste

Chase Robinson
Chase Robinson

I will never understand this fixation with being given a bullshit pseudo-science explanation for things. Not even just mecha, people all the time complain about X and Y cliche and say "It would be tolerable if they'd at least hand wave it with some one-line explanation" and stuff like that. It just doesn't make sense - if you fucking know that the explanation is bullshit, why can't you just accept the bullshit without needing the show to hold your hand about it? How are people this hung up on realism?

John Walker
John Walker

To be fair the original TV show can be pretty bad sometimes. The movie trilogy is the best way to experience MSG, fuck what /m/ says.

Anthony Price
Anthony Price

I always wondered what that weird twangy instrument was.

Jayden Taylor
Jayden Taylor

Sure, Muv Luv is more "realistic" than Gundam, but as we are still talking about series with flying mechs fighting aliens the question about which one is more realistic is very close to whether it's better to take a shotgun in the eye or forehead: ultimately it doesn't really matter.

And when discussing the "depth" of the plot it's only resorting to buzzwords. I don't realistically know why Gundam would have any less "depth" than Muv Luv as they both pay attention to backstory and details to an autistic degree. Only thing I can think of what would make Muv Luv "deeper" is how the psychological effects of warfare are portrayed in a more humane way, but then again, the target audiences of the series are completely different and reflect the tone.

Jackson Jones
Jackson Jones

I watched the movies and don't feel like it was harder to continue with Zeta. Apparently I missed some island filler but can't say I'm really sad over it.

Cameron Gonzalez
Cameron Gonzalez

Turn A is pretty good and I always liked the theming of it, the 1910 technology vs moonrace, the comfy ass houses and building and the general feel of the series.

I like it a lot

Ayden Parker
Ayden Parker

Essentially a percussion version of a musical saw from the '20s.

https://a.pomf.cat/kwrvpr.webm

Christopher Mitchell
Christopher Mitchell

The only times I found myself not enjoying the show were the first few episodes and that one episode where they ran out of salt.

Kayden Hernandez
Kayden Hernandez

It's the best IMO but it starts real slow.

Ethan Thomas
Ethan Thomas

I never understood why people hate the salt episode so much.

Connor Edwards
Connor Edwards

https://twitter.com/shota_/status/728510842757484544

Alexander Hernandez
Alexander Hernandez

It's just such a dumb idea for an episode.

Jaxon Russell
Jaxon Russell

You have a point, to be honest Muv-Luv is "semi-realistic" scifi with a setting carefully designed to accommodate mechas. Semi-realistic when compared to scifi literature, that is, but if we compare it to other anime/VN then it will be hard to find any setting that strives to be more realistic.

But unarguably part of my love for Muv Luv is the fact I'm an eternal manchild and even if Gundam has its moments of suffering the portrayal of war feel much more "realistic" and grim in Muv Luv as it isn't really sugarcoated in any occasion.
this

A discussion of realism of muv-luv TSFs will quickly devolve into physics and material science, I don't have time for that here. Let's say muv-luv TSFs are semi-realistic.

But the whole setting is ridiculously detailed. The author has designed the whole alternative history with similar but not-quite-ours historical event timeline. The TSF design, pros and cons, weapon types, materials, cockpits, pilot control systems (they use a combination of manual control and brainwave/EEG pattern recognition to control TSFs), and then some good design of alien species. It's hard to compare it to any other scifi anime or VN, the setting is that deep.

Mason Wood
Mason Wood

Of course I did, user. Isn't it deep, or isn't it realistic? Well, if you remove QC theory and maybe remove G-elements.

Evan Morris
Evan Morris

A discussion of realism of muv-luv TSFs will quickly devolve into physics and material science
You've obviously had this discussion more than once, but remind me, were TSF somehow dependent of the elements found inside the hives or was it just Susanoo and some others?

Nathaniel Wood
Nathaniel Wood

I liked Muv Luv when it tried to explain things, even in pseudo scientific way. In the end the 10-minute long explanations were just replaced with "lol quantum computer doesn't have to explain anything" and it was kind of bad move.

Christian Miller
Christian Miller

Not him, but TSFs were developed in response to the BETA, but they had mecha-type workers on the moon before the first contact with BETA.
So no, they had the technology before hand.

I think the reason was because the space race in their universe ended up with moon colonization. They also had space defense systems so the level of technology isn't really comparable to real life.

Asher Wright
Asher Wright

The technology in moon was really far from TSF though. Iirc the later models didn't have a pilot.

Owen Baker
Owen Baker

No, the best way by far is reading the Origins manga.

Evan Miller
Evan Miller

why can't you just accept the bullshit without needing the show to hold your hand about it? How are people this hung up on realism?
A handwave is not a lampshade.
A lampshade acknowledges that something is silly.
A handwave makes up a silly excuse. That excuse can later be expanded, but even if it isn't, it's canon and can be used to properly explain phenomena within the show.
The people are not asking for science, they are asking for logic.

Owen Jenkins
Owen Jenkins

Only the XG-70 Susanoo used G-element (alien hive material) driven engine.

TSFs use some form of carbon polymer actuators, carbon (and maybe magnesium alloy) armor and jet engines as a source of thrust and electric power.

To have any hope of being plausible they should be much lighter than they look, carbon armor and frame can contribute to that.

In Unlimited/Alternative timeline humanity already had better than contemporary material science in 1950s, giving them access to materials with order of magnitude better performance than current aerospace alloys. In that timeline humans were much more active in space - they had a moon base, and they even made project Daedalus succeed (IRL project Daedalus remained on paper).

Moon base used powered exoskeletons of various sizes even before humanity came into contact with BETA, so the TSFs are descendants of these exoskeletons.

Adam Bailey
Adam Bailey

Mobile users should be banned

Andrew Ross
Andrew Ross

You're right but at the same time I'm pretty sure those are tvtropes terms which makes you automatically wrong.

Thomas Thomas
Thomas Thomas

tvtropes terms
That's because you're a newfag.
Those terms are older than tv-tropes.

Elijah Jones
Elijah Jones

How can you guys tell he's a mobile user? Is it a 4chanX thing?

Christian Diaz
Christian Diaz

As a non /m/ fag who tried to break into several different gundam shows and found them all disappointing. I really have to ask what's the appeal?

All of the stories try to blend teenage drama and world politics which just feels awful. The characters often feel like they sometimes forget the scope of their own universe.

Carson Kelly
Carson Kelly

It's detailed and if you get invested in the characters and universe it's fun. Honestly it's pretty silly, considering the points you mentioned. Aside that, you can see its influence in many series which makes it a fun watch if you're more heavy weeaboo.

Robert Moore
Robert Moore

Which ones did you watch, and did you finish them? All of them don't get really good until they return to space near the end.

Tyler Moore
Tyler Moore

Brown girls are made for suffering too. Only Shakti (and maybe Marbet) was lucky, the rest has to die in pain.

Hudson Rodriguez
Hudson Rodriguez

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Connor Reyes
Connor Reyes

Yup I like this part too, as well as briefings. They are almost plausible, a non-technical person wouldn't be able to discern them from the real thing.

In the end they had to make these plot devices like 00-unit's quantum computer and the whole quantum causality theory thing (sensor lol). These are clearly compromises, but if you look at this from fiction point of view it's epic.

Kevin Rogers
Kevin Rogers

There's a few file names that only really come up with phone users.
"image.[extension]" is a name that could theoretically be intentionally chosen by somebody, but it turns out that 99% of the time it's a phone fag.
Besides that, there's also blurry screenshots of manga pages that are commonly created by mobile posters.

Mason Sanders
Mason Sanders

Gundam series, and especially Tomino Gundams have a very distinct feel. The characters are very melodramatic, and their actions are often nonsensical. It's an acquired taste to say the least. Also for some reason they all need some version of a white battleship that's near invisible.

Thomas Bell
Thomas Bell

Just look at these, it's like a history that never was.

Jaxon Lee
Jaxon Lee

now do one of those for mobile suits

Brandon Sullivan
Brandon Sullivan

I'm not sure where you got the idea I was talking about lampshades. I'm talking exactly about a hand wave - if something works in-universe, it works in-universe, you don't need to waste time with some nonsense elaboration about why it works in-universe (not necessarily, at least - obviously in some stories that might be plot-relevant, and that's different). And especially not when it's some well-trod cliche that you are completely aware of the existence and workings of.

Nolan Gomez
Nolan Gomez

Reread the last two sentences of my post.

Austin Stewart
Austin Stewart

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be seeing there. Science or logic, it doesn't matter - it's still silly to demand that content be devoted solely to establishing how it is that cliches occur.

Chase Stewart
Chase Stewart

It's really sad that they don't exist as mobile suits put sales of shiny models before consistency.

Cameron Young
Cameron Young

I watched 1-3 episoides of various series that were listed as being pretty good. Was awhile ago. Three I remember were Wing, G, and Zeta.

Wing really had that problem of badly mixing teen drama and grand politics. The main girl pretty much killed the show by herself.

G was really ugly artistically, it has that weird 90s style. Characters looked especially bad in motion.

Zeta just sort of felt a little too slow to put up, if I had to say which one was the best it would easily be that because it had the best animation and camera work.

In general I don't like TV action shows. You need a a high budget to make good fight scenes so OVAs and TV are better. The exception is if you have near OVA budget (Big O), amazing directing NGE could make just a robot walking from the shadows bad-ass, or if you somehow get really invested in the story/character.

Leo Bell
Leo Bell

People don't ask for explanations for every little detail.
They ask for explanations or handwaves when there is a problem with consistency.

Isaac Barnes
Isaac Barnes

And this correlates to quality how?

Dylan Diaz
Dylan Diaz

Not that user, but "being silly" is just highlighted as your opinion that's not in any line with what majority of people want. Remember the shit threads where people argue about powerlevels? It's possible because the work has internal consistency. Majority of people want logic and a possibility to understand all the shit, be it scifi or fantasy, as parts of the established universe. Sure, they wouldn't need to pay attention to any of the things because it's unrealistic, but explaining things is part of world building and an important part of immersion for many. What you're saying is basically "immersion is stupid" which is pretty strange claim.

Gavin Clark
Gavin Clark

Some people enjoy detailed worlds that have logical development of technology. It might not be your definition of "quality" though, whatever you might be seeking.

Hunter Long
Hunter Long

Strange or not, I stand by it. The world building most people talk about basically consists of autistic detail that often doesn't contribute to the story and that I'd read a history book if I wanted. The writers do certain things because they have certain goals that those fulfill, that's good enough for me and it doesn't reduce the pleasure I get out of a series to acknowledge that instead of pretending that every single thing is for in-universe reasons. Obviously there has to be some form of "consistency" in order for there to be any point, but that doesn't mean absolute consistency of everything, or it'd just be a physics simulator with alternate initial conditions. Let the author choose what they want to do without having to justify everything with realism.

Easton Jenkins
Easton Jenkins

And that's where the handwaves come in.
Handwaves are black-boxes that you set up at every junction where you need to work your magic to make your universe function properly despite wonky physics.

Justin Mitchell
Justin Mitchell

we are still talking about series with flying mechs fighting aliens the question about which one is more realistic

By the way these aliens, BETA are *scarily* realistic. If you take away the G-Element BS and lower their size a bit and make their armor MOHS 10 instead of MOHS 15, they could exist.

BETAs are non-intelligent (if we don't count limited intelligence of superiors) lifeform engineered by some other species with the goal of resource extraction. They are biologically hardwired to settle on planets, consume resources, grow their hives and multiply and then send the resources back to the creators and more BETA ships to other planets/solar systems.

Ryan Bailey
Ryan Bailey

or it'd just be a physics simulator with alternate initial conditions.

That would actually be awesome.

tfw no physically realistic mecha simulator

Joseph Reed
Joseph Reed

forgot pic

Levi Reyes
Levi Reyes

I can understand where you are coming from, but you still have to admit you're in a clear minority and people invested in different franchises consider details and explanations a sign of thorough writing. And even then it's not always about "realism" as it's really clear many things in fiction are totally unrealistic, it's just to create detailed and immersive worlds. If taken to video gamer terms for easy comparison, you'd represent the people who just want to shoot things without really thinking about why and how. I can understand that, but at the same time I don't consider it a good writing, and I don't think anyone should.

Jose Lewis
Jose Lewis

If you want to, you can jump straight into 0080, 08th MS, Thunderbolt, because they're all OVAs taking place early in the UC timeline. The F91 movie is probably watchable if you're familiar with what newtypes are and know some other background info.

David Campbell
David Campbell

Tfw never going to play this

Nolan Wright
Nolan Wright

The original did though, then Zeta was a huge downgrade in quality of everything other than animation.

Juan Wright
Juan Wright

I thought about making a clone of this game. I have all the necessary skills, but it would take 1-2 months of unpaid work.. I can't afford doing that. Maybe later.

Also, found their site http://www.littlemeteor.com/home

Nathaniel Watson
Nathaniel Watson

G Fighter was pretty good

Kevin Diaz
Kevin Diaz

Can you actually download the game or is it just more salt for wounds?

Kevin Bell
Kevin Bell

People have their narratives and like to stick to them and nothing is going to change that.

Except with Gundam people really like bringing it up though I guess when the company that makes it dick waves about it making 80 billion yen a year it's going to come up more than with most franchises. I love how people get so mad over Gunpla merch but figurines are totally 100% -fine and if you swap a mech out for a battle haremette or something suddenly all problems disappear.

Jack Walker
Jack Walker

Nah, I haven't found DL link. But I have seen job applications at âge, they hire 3d modelers and animators. Maybe they have bought TSF forefront and will release it on their own, or they'll make their own action game. Who knows..

Isaiah Edwards
Isaiah Edwards

Maybe if Gundam weren't like the greatest and most significant anime franchise pretty much ever things wouldn't get compared to it as much.

Carson Phillips
Carson Phillips

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Justin Ward
Justin Ward

It's the instrument that was used to make the iconic Newtype reaction sound.

Samuel Baker
Samuel Baker

Get your preorders ready, homos.

Aaron Jenkins
Aaron Jenkins

There's about a dozen groups of people that should be banned long before people that are using their phone to post. I mean fuck I'm on a tablet posting this, wanna cry about it? Tell someone who fucking cares. It's 2016, grow the fuck up and get used to it.

Liam Anderson
Liam Anderson

S-sure, user

Jaxon Evans
Jaxon Evans

Kudelia getting her own army Lacus style now?

Josiah Taylor
Josiah Taylor

The problem with phone users is that a disproportionally large part of them seems to regard Sup Forums as a place without value. They are immune to bans and they enjoy their freedom to troll the community without repercussions.

Jace Moore
Jace Moore

That I can relate to as a decent recent to hate them actually.

Lincoln Torres
Lincoln Torres

So phone users are basically /tv/ in a nutshell?

Carter Davis
Carter Davis

you're wrong I watched a lot of gundam and it was shit

Parker Sanders
Parker Sanders

Especially G-Rectum

Dylan Rogers
Dylan Rogers

JUST HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES CAN A TEENAGER GET CAPTURED BY THE ENEMY ONLY TO SLIP AWAY AND KILL WHOEVER THEY NEED TO KILL EVERY TIME I seriously can't even stand the stupid waifu plot points in the show half the time the characters fell in love with an enemy or something fucking stupid the old gundam shows are really shit

Robert Miller
Robert Miller

Because Gundam is actually made to sell toys. That is the only reason this series is still alive, because toy sales supplemented the original's bad ratings. While the shows themselves have become something really good, the Gunpla are what keep it alive.

Meanwhile, Light Novel adaptions are usually made to advertise the Light Novel series themselves, with figurine sales being a nice bonus.

Also, Zeon is actually terrible.

Daniel Peterson
Daniel Peterson

Gihren
Good old space Hitler

John Baker
John Baker

Implying

Ian Edwards
Ian Edwards

Actually a pretty good point.

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