Tales of Stuff

Leo Allen
Leo Allen

"Tales Series"

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http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=55394744
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMTbFSJ_Tr4
http://www.britannica.com/biography/Michel-de-Montaigne
http://rationalfaiths.com/the-lgbtq-mormon-crisis-responding-to-the-empirical-research-on-suicide/
Dylan Rivera
Dylan Rivera

Cute little Repede with Yuri

Jacob Peterson
Jacob Peterson

Rose a best.

Benjamin Lewis
Benjamin Lewis

Fuck off, Baba

Robert James
Robert James

Rose's ass will save anime.

Jonathan Watson
Jonathan Watson

this is now a Mikleo thread

Leo Long
Leo Long

Watch there be no ass shots in the anime.

Owen Gomez
Owen Gomez

They can't deviate that much from the plot.

Carson Cooper
Carson Cooper

You guyz foygetz

Brayden Lee
Brayden Lee

TOX anime when, I want my Milla fix

Carter Sanchez
Carter Sanchez

This is not anime.

Parker Jenkins
Parker Jenkins

No. You will get the Rose. And you will love the Rose.

Adrian Nguyen
Adrian Nguyen

Who ever came up with the crossover deserves a raise.

Elijah Bennett
Elijah Bennett

What is Tales of Symphonia, Tales of the Abyss, Tales of Zestiria the X, Tales of Vesperia?

Owen Adams
Owen Adams

If anything it killed the Tales franchise. Or at least in Japan, where it matters for them.

Julian Barnes
Julian Barnes

They will realize that they were wrong and worship the goddess that is Rose.

Joshua Hernandez
Joshua Hernandez

Baba stop posting before you start receiving more death threats. Least popular girl will stay least popular.

Andrew Walker
Andrew Walker

Why do all the Tales threads end up dying? I love these threads

Dominic Peterson
Dominic Peterson

Current best Tales girl. Hands down.

Hunter Allen
Hunter Allen

Insane that she actually looks cute on the right. It's the hair and the fact that she has a face with an actual expression.

Ayden Sanders
Ayden Sanders

Tales of has so many cuties

Hudson Miller
Hudson Miller

Zelos did nothing wrong.

Camden Price
Camden Price

That's true.

Parker Torres
Parker Torres

She is soooooo cute

Colton Perez
Colton Perez

Indeed, Beryl a best

Julian Powell
Julian Powell

I want Edna to step on me

Levi Bennett
Levi Bennett

Tales is more alive than ever and the fanbase is full of buzz with all the things happening
The tales festival is this month, I hope we get the popularity poll

Jaxon Barnes
Jaxon Barnes

And I want Yuri to fuck me senseless.

Hope you and I can both live with the fact that the things we want will never happen.

Zachary Sullivan
Zachary Sullivan

But people are more wary of it that's for sure.

Matthew Hughes
Matthew Hughes

Every Tales character who gets Yuri's outfit as an alt. costume looks so much better in it than Yuri himself. His character model looks like he has gyno.

Camden Taylor
Camden Taylor

With her boots or bare feet?

Jackson Sanchez
Jackson Sanchez

Not really. Aside from some jokes most nips are excited for the future. Besides, Baba isn't even involved with berseria. That's old ass news now.

Michael Edwards
Michael Edwards

Well that kind of outfit only really works for masculine looking character and Yuri doesn't look all that Masculine.

Ian Nguyen
Ian Nguyen

Probably people are excited because he isn't involved.

Andrew Watson
Andrew Watson

Milla a cute

Chase Gutierrez
Chase Gutierrez

Baba isn't involved with Berseria

Best tales since Graces confirmed, get HYPE

Luis Reed
Luis Reed

I want Edna to step on me
with Sorey's heels

Wyatt Martin
Wyatt Martin

Dont forget best sis

James Carter
James Carter

I'm referring to the multiple projects/events/merch and general fanbase excitement for them, not just the new console game. It's plain uninformed to say "tales is ded" when there's so much activity, even with berseria aside.

Eng fanbase is so slow I thought this was common knowledge

Brandon Carter
Brandon Carter

Who is she?

I haven't see her in any promotional art of the upcoming anime.

Nathan Stewart
Nathan Stewart

Kohaku best legs

Kevin Foster
Kevin Foster

For real. I was in Akihabara and Ikebukuro last month and there was Tales shit everywhere. The new story arcs for Tales of Asteria are advertised on TV. Tales of Friends is constantly holding cafe events. People in the West think Tales is bombing because of the Zestiria drama last year, but the fanbase is in love with the characters more than ever.

Carter Edwards
Carter Edwards

KUREAAAAAAAAAA

Landon Miller
Landon Miller

We must save the threads with more posts!!!

Jason Cox
Jason Cox

Same

Colton Walker
Colton Walker

The fujoshis saved the day again?

Ryder Jenkins
Ryder Jenkins

Tainted AU sounds good

Jace Reyes
Jace Reyes

She and Mikleo were cute as fuck together. If he wasn't so gay, I would pair them.

Gabriel Russell
Gabriel Russell

That slut isn't Sup Forums, though.

Christian Watson
Christian Watson

Go tell /c/

James Perry
James Perry

You sure you don't like it because Sorey fucks Mikleo daily in it?

Kevin Moore
Kevin Moore

At least Mikleo will look at a swimsuit catalog. Sorey brings up the girls' soft, smooth skin twice in a non-sexual and vaguely Silence of the Lambs context.

Evan Green
Evan Green

The Turtlez battle in the Catz world that copied a Xillia 2 scene one for one.
Best fucking cutscene.

Isaiah Russell
Isaiah Russell

Always knew Ludger was a bottom.

Brody Davis
Brody Davis

Tainted AU is the worst thing to ever happen because it never happened ;_;

Matthew Rivera
Matthew Rivera

Well Zavied did get Sorey to babe watch with him, granted Sorey's idea of it was different from Zavied's but not entirely wrong.

Brandon Morgan
Brandon Morgan

The amount of feels I had during xillia 2 for that and then again during that battle...

Also nothing beats gay aska

Bentley Harris
Bentley Harris

Sorey is a buff dude, god damn his thighs are delicious.

Colton Collins
Colton Collins

still haven't finished Zesty Sauce
The only localized Tales game besides Erernia that I haven't finished that I've played. And even then Eternia is a special case because my saves were wiped randomly.

Love the series though. Played them all besides Legendia

Nolan Hernandez
Nolan Hernandez

I am so pissed we didn't get to see Shadow's spirit form.

Mason Richardson
Mason Richardson

Berseria main right here

Samuel Cooper
Samuel Cooper

I'm ANALLY OBLITERATED we didn't get to beat Origin's presumptuous ass up. He was the very definition of "fucking up human's lives because he thinks they deserve it" villain and everyone just kinda shrugs it off.
Fuck, if this were any other JRPG Bisley would have joined your party.

Isaiah Barnes
Isaiah Barnes

*unsheathes siegfried*
*teleports behind you*
nothing personnel, kid

Joseph Russell
Joseph Russell

God damn the bitches for taking Ludger's reward for paying his debt off and making it stressful. Also, Rowen has a fun playstyle that I absolutely adore. He is quite literally supposed to be played as a battlefield surveyor that stays away from the heat while casting crowd control.

Owen Cox
Owen Cox

Fuck you and your hemorrhoid ridden ass. Origin was pretty bro tier and you need to direct your burning hatred at Chronos and the original Maxwell where it rightfully belongs.

Eli Rivera
Eli Rivera

Color swaps?

Hunter Lee
Hunter Lee

I still can't believe we get Eizen in the party in Berseria. I hope he is just as playful in his teasing as his sister.

Brody Thomas
Brody Thomas

Shit taste. Edna and Zaveid was clearly more of a thing.

Yeah, I doubt Zesty is as hated as it is over here as it is over there.

Also new TOZ/TOB promo pics.

Nathaniel Price
Nathaniel Price

Somewhere along the line Tales became Sup Forums related
god dammit

Juan Wright
Juan Wright

I wonder if we'll see cameos of other zesty serephs like the old man who rasied Sorey and Mikleo

Logan Price
Logan Price

I wonder, could this game be about the 8 Dragon myth? The origins of Maotelus? The possibilities are astounding.

Asher Miller
Asher Miller

They need to animate the katz's story about Zenrus is getting mad drunk in the hookup bar in Katz Korner.

Logan Roberts
Logan Roberts

There is so much to learn about the world. I love world building.
Only sad thing is; we know what will eventually happen to Aizen/Eizen. What actually happened...so much to find out.

Julian Myers
Julian Myers

/y/
/ss/
What a time to be alive.

Adam Wright
Adam Wright

I felt so guilty selling the pipe at the beginning. I accidentally backed out the dialog box.

Alexander Foster
Alexander Foster

He didn't help himself as far as his power is concerned, but he is still a fucking awesome looking dude and a top tier aniki.

Sebastian White
Sebastian White

They giving him the Chie treatment?

Joseph Torres
Joseph Torres

Wonder if they'll touch upon the story of Zavied's gun
Also I chucked out persona during this scene. I know I wasn't the only one

Cameron Murphy
Cameron Murphy

Thats a combo between a good girl and a half assed boy

David Long
David Long

They kinda cursed all of humanity and ruined the cycle of souls because of one human (Kresnik) as I recall. All of them can fuck right off. KILL THE GREAT SPIRITS.

Liam Roberts
Liam Roberts

To be honest, I haven't seen any reference to seraphim being used in the information on Berseria. What if the story is about the birth of the seraphim from the 'demon' looking stuff we've seen?

Brandon Green
Brandon Green

I think you mean worst girl and dead boy

Alexander Kelly
Alexander Kelly

More likely Zestiria's seraphim are "descendants" of the malakim. Laphicet and Eizen are malakim.

Samuel Carter
Samuel Carter

Narikiri Dungeon 4 fucking when?

Brody Lewis
Brody Lewis

I guess we'll find out when it's released

Also about the Normans. Did they 1st one we were introduced too have a love for art galleries and what not....and who has a love for it in TOB...Edna bro. Also Edna carries a plish of that Norman on her umbrella.

Levi Butler
Levi Butler

Atelier x Tales crossover anime when?

Hudson Anderson
Hudson Anderson

Chronos fucked up the damn cycle with his little Chromatus bullshit, while Old Man Maxwell prevented the conditions needed to complete the trial from happening. All Origin did was stay in a locked mechanism and suck the Miasma out of the souls before reincarnation. Assign blame to those who fucked the situation up.

Jackson Young
Jackson Young

I actually liked Rose as a character more than Alicia. She brought life to an otherwise boring party and initiated actual fun conversations and lifted the energy. Then Zaveid joined and the party FINALLY felt comfy and interesting.
I just hate Roses playstyle and much prefer to play as Alicia.
I hope Berseria fixes the battle system.

Dominic Ward
Dominic Ward

So could those who were labeled as malakim be the ones who turned into dragons from the legends?

David Butler
David Butler

We idol now

Gabriel Sanchez
Gabriel Sanchez

Breseria will use Xillia engine so, the movements surely wont be sluggish

Benjamin Baker
Benjamin Baker

Which tales game is best (has the best gameplay)? I've only played tales of innocence on the DS, which was mediocre.

Jaxson Bailey
Jaxson Bailey

Are the games any better, I gave up after graces.

Dylan Carter
Dylan Carter

RIP

Charles Evans
Charles Evans

Try Xilia

Nathan Bennett
Nathan Bennett

Tales of Destiny remake for PS2

Carter Reyes
Carter Reyes

Depends I guess. I enjoyed the xillias and zesty. Im even half way thru Hearts R. I think they all have their own thing that makes them fun. ( I like the soma system on Hearts R)

Owen Perry
Owen Perry

I still prefer my dear Presea but Edna is a cutie for sure

Grayson Jenkins
Grayson Jenkins

Whose voicing her now that Marriage declaration happened?

Matthew Perry
Matthew Perry

Noriko Shitaya

Jose Cooper
Jose Cooper

That's not Karol

Robert Flores
Robert Flores

But there are no Kohaku in that picture

Evan Rogers
Evan Rogers

I nwant to fuck futa Edna

Charles Jenkins
Charles Jenkins

tales of fujoshit

no thanks senpai

David Flores
David Flores

I was always Tales of hetero but fuck them they want t milk fujo money. And FF soon. They should change the tittle to FInal Fujoshit

Matthew Young
Matthew Young

Aw, is poor broke moralfag jealous of the rich fujos getting pandered to? They don't even need to be rich anymore, Mandarake and K-Books take credit card...

Owen Parker
Owen Parker

Even if DOTNW wasn't that good I find Marta a cute

Noah Collins
Noah Collins

poor broke moralfag
implying

Jaxson Sanchez
Jaxson Sanchez

They can pander to fujoshits as much as they want if it leads to boys as cute as Sorey.

Brody Smith
Brody Smith

Mikleo is cute

Turtlez are also pretty cute, as was the skit where Sorey and Mikleo discussed them.

Edna is pretty good, Berseria looks to have some great characters as well.

While's Edna's swimwear isn't bad, I think I much prefer her default look. Like her hair and dress better and I'm a sucker for boots.

Dylan Moore
Dylan Moore

Zaveid is best boy

Nathaniel Barnes
Nathaniel Barnes

I'd go gay for Zaveid

Eli Sanders
Eli Sanders

My nigger. Presea is my favorite Symphonia.

Tyler Rivera
Tyler Rivera

Rita is my waifu!

John Hill
John Hill

I want to make Edna wet.

Chase Nelson
Chase Nelson

That it does, for both sexes. Part of why I've probably taken a liking to the series.

It's kind of funny how I played Symphonia and didn't really care for Colette, and now two years later I find her quite adorable. The OVA did a great job making her look cute, particularly in the zombie state brought about by the Cruxis Crystal.

They picked some good girls to be idols and the designs for them were pretty nice, was pleasantly surprised to discover there was even a somewhat enjoyable story behind it. Tales of Link seems pretty good for its alternate costume art and even some of its original characters.

On the downside it really doesn't hide the fact that you have to pay if you want a particular character or even good characters, otherwise you can be waiting a while. Kind of didn't like either how it seems like they always have some limited time event going on, though I suppose that is good incentive to get people playing, it worked on me for a bit.

Kayden Carter
Kayden Carter

/vg/

Leo Cruz
Leo Cruz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysFbEOFRjSU
I love Tales.

Austin Nguyen
Austin Nguyen

this poor soul only played the worst Tales ever and even then didn't choose Edna as best girl

Isaac Garcia
Isaac Garcia

how do you get Zesteria to do this? I literally tried the whole game because the gayboy protag was getting very boring to look at 10 mins in.

Eli Hernandez
Eli Hernandez

he died?

that scene was so fucking irrelevant gameplay-wise, it hurts. New boy just came right in, took his fucking hat, and we were back to business.

Joshua Davis
Joshua Davis

not Sup Forums
literally voiced by Miyuki Sawashiro

it's like you don't even watch anime for the voice acting

Gabriel Price
Gabriel Price

baba not involved
whatever bullshit mechanics they throw, I get to stare at THESE assets all game long

It's already way better than Zestiria.

Justin Collins
Justin Collins

I've actually played through most Tales games and consider Rose to be one of the better female characters. Vesperia's cast in general is much, much better though.

Dylan Cook
Dylan Cook

not playing Milla for the absolute wreckage and versatility

I respect your style though, I wish I could play anything but Milla, Myuse, Leia or Ludger.

Chase Harris
Chase Harris

Oh god is this confirmed?

I currently replay Xillia 2 and love the shit out of the battles so much, the mediocre story can go fuck itself over as much as it wants, as long as the fights are fun

Josiah Walker
Josiah Walker

MUTTON, FRESH MUTTON

Oliver Powell
Oliver Powell

Best overall would be Vesperia PS3, the translation is available now I hear.
Fighting is a lot of fun, and the characters carry the story so hard it's nearly enjoyable without the gameplay.

If you come to Tales for the fighting, give Xillia 1&2 a shot. Play both, X2 is the far superior one Battle-wise since some lagging was fixed. Just don't spam Lightning too much.
The fights are quick-paced, challenging, but also rewarding, since the slightest effort you put into dodging stuff can be the difference between having to go back to "hard" from "unknown" or kicking the boss' ass.

Graces F deserves a mention, the fights are very different in style since no airgame, but still quite intense nonetheless.

If you want to stick to handheld, try Hearts for the Vita.

David Phillips
David Phillips

I secretly enjoyed the fuck out of it since I chose the right monsters at the start and got a kickass Fenrir by my side.

Chase Morales
Chase Morales

I want an actual thread, not some Gulag circlejerk '''''''insider'''''''' bullshit.

Jaxon Reed
Jaxon Reed

Mh, fair enough I guess.

I wanted to like Rose, but something about her didn't quite fit into the party, like, all game long.

Noah Bailey
Noah Bailey

I'd like to bully her feet

Honestly, that probably comes down to Namco. More than most other Japanese companies they seemed to shit the bed when trying to bring their product to a global audience.

Japanese companies also seem to have a habit of catering to Japan while giving the rest of the world scraps. For example, Nintendo continues to open up new Pokemon Centers in Japan while the US one became a general Nintendo store.

Remember seeing these pictures which made use of AU Sorey and Mikleo, seemed good.

They tried to get a Tales general going on in /vg/ around the time Zestiria was released in English, it honestly wasn't that bad, but fell apart due to eventually there not being much to really talk about.

Gavin Thompson
Gavin Thompson

I kinda also don't want /v/ermin to invade my waifu-battle simulator discussion

Jose Parker
Jose Parker

Kekkon Yubiwa Monogatari thread?

Anthony Lopez
Anthony Lopez

/v/ also manages to have decent Tales threads, the only thing they can fall prey to is people arguing about which game is best.

Jason Robinson
Jason Robinson

That's the problem with the party as a whole. Everyone's sort of a straightman, always serious and all business.

The goofball doesn't show up until the last third of the game to balance things out. Before that it was only Lailah's occasional puns, and Edna's smug that kept the thing afloat.

Oliver Jackson
Oliver Jackson

Sup Forums know's it's Vesperia.

Nathaniel Ramirez
Nathaniel Ramirez

It's not even just the party, I literally remember not one single boss character or any noteworthy interactions.

These two with their boss, Xillia's 4 wings, or Myuse in the first part, made for very rememberable villians.

Nathan Martinez
Nathan Martinez

Ctrl plus F
No Estelle

Absolutely disgusting, she is best Tales girl.

Vesperia anime series when?

Evan Myers
Evan Myers

Not exactly a negative

Certainly a strong contender in the cute hero category.

The possibility of world building sounds nice.

Presea is also good.

Juan Collins
Juan Collins

complains about no Estelle
posts a screenshot of the inferior mash-up games

Ryder Ross
Ryder Ross

The games are shit but at least we got her sweet ass.

Joshua Sanders
Joshua Sanders

Lailah can't talk about anything actually useful or else she'll lose her power of purification
Sorey promises to find a way to save Edna's brother, oops no let's kill him, not like that was her entire reason for joining or anything
Alisha BTFO by everyone
Rose worst characterization
Maltran is sexy and dead
Forton is sexy and dead
Symonne, despite manipulating one of the party into killing themselves, is treated like weak pathetic garbage by everyone including her boss
Everything about Muse
Sorey's mom is a generic NPC

Being female in Zestiria is guaranteed suffering.

Ayden Hill
Ayden Hill

Most Japanese companies don't give a shit about their fanbase outside Japan unless it's for bragging rights, it's probably for the best for everyone involved re: censorship.

Also Pokemon Centers aren't that great, they all have the exact same arrangement of overpriced made in china plushies and school supplies. They don't even sell books, games, or electronics unless it's a crappy clock or something. They're nowhere on the level of say, Tales of Friends/Kotobukiya or the Square-Enix stores.

Daniel Long
Daniel Long

Sorey getting cucked by his alt. self while both Mikleos are into it will never not be funny

Aiden Nguyen
Aiden Nguyen

otp in the back
Based

Brody Morales
Brody Morales

It is a negative when everyone else looks better in his outfit than he does.

Adam Hill
Adam Hill

Everyone's sort of a straightman, always serious and all business.
That's plain wrong when Lailah and her puns exist. Sorey and Mikleo have plenty goofy moments as well but they just take their job seriously as they should. Plus there is Edna and her snark jokes and bullying all early on.

Gabriel Lewis
Gabriel Lewis

Stinky Pascal

Joseph Collins
Joseph Collins

Milla is fun as shit, but Rowen has me by the rhythm game instincts. Muzet is hard as fuck to get into the mindset for, Elize requires planning and foresight on how to shift the spud, Alvin is a fucking burst damage badass with his charge time being useful with his healing skills, and then you have Gaius being an import from fucking Soul Calibur with a bit of a tank based avenger.

Sebastian Cooper
Sebastian Cooper

No PS3 version western release.
Well fuck, I don't want to buy a console just for one game.
How shitty are they at porting to PC? Looks like I'll have to resort to that version.

John Rodriguez
John Rodriguez

I know this is a very late answer but I think it's imperative to discuss such a question. The answer is both. I want her to bully me with those heavy boots, laugh at me, and call me names like "lolicon" and "scum." But then she'd take her boots off and reveal her cute, soft, dainty feet and gently rub them on me.

Alexander Baker
Alexander Baker

I really hope Berseria can wash the bad taste of Zesteria out of my mouth

Jonathan Thomas
Jonathan Thomas

Cum in Pascal

Nicholas Wright
Nicholas Wright

They don't hate Rose though. They hate how Baba and his team handled the whole thing.

Joseph Parker
Joseph Parker

So does anyone here actually talk about the games

Aiden Wilson
Aiden Wilson

Occasionally, but this isn't the place to talk about games in-depth.

I didn't like Zesteria. Can't put my finger on why, I just never figured out the combat system and enjoyed it. I trudged through most of the game just for Edna. I think I could finish it in a few hours if I felt like playing it again but it doesn't seem worth it.

Ian Harris
Ian Harris

This shitstain is nowhere near top 10 best Tales girls, let alone the best.

Jayden Brown
Jayden Brown

Rita
Judith
Estelle

Vesperia had the best and most balanced female case.

Ethan Mitchell
Ethan Mitchell

Team Destiny has a complexity addiction in battle systems, Team Symphonia goes for simple beat the tar out of the enemy style. Xillia was a good start, as Team Destiny got certain complexity and forced a more technical type of gameplay, while the face beating fun of Team Symphonia still shone through. Zestiria went full Destiny, with very little Symphonia influence. Graces is a fucking mess of complexity compared to Xillia and Zestiria returns to the same fucking mess and adds more to it. Having twenty different attributes that an attack can have is going a bit too far. To be fair, I did cut my teeth on Team Symphonia's works.

Isaiah Barnes
Isaiah Barnes

You forgot the best Tales loli.

Anthony Garcia
Anthony Garcia

Abyss best.

Luke is best.

Adam Richardson
Adam Richardson

At some point Rowen was so intense that any battle could end with him standing on the edge and casting Tightening Chains a couple times. Based old man, best boy.

Luis Moore
Luis Moore

I disagree. I think Tales' format works fantastically with meshing button masher and more complex combat in roots with its action RPG style.

Graces' system I never thought was that confusing. At most all you had to understand was basic movement, dodging enemies, basic button functions, and that CC was responsible for your action count. That's all I ever understood and I got by just fine. I seriously don't understand how people find it difficult.

That said, I think Graces (and I hear Hearts R) are the only games in the series where action game depth is in any sense truly interesting. That's not to say the gameplay for the rest is bad though, it's just that I largely also disagree on Destiny having a complexity addiction. The franchise was never responsible for any systems that were say, Devil May Cry levels.

Overall Tales has still managed to retain some very samey gameplay, where you don't need to learn much at all past the tutorial, and the rest comes naturally. The more technical things you want to pull off, if possible depending on the game, is just a nice bonus that happens to be there if you want to do cool stunts.

Christopher Nguyen
Christopher Nguyen

I want to have hope too but I'm not liking the designs of any of the characters.

Tyler Perry
Tyler Perry

Not even Japanese people care about Japanese games anymore. Console games are expensive as fuck so only otakus are willing to buy them while normies only care for cellphone games.

In fact, many Japanese games have better sales on the west than in Japan. Weeaboos are desperate for any kind of contact with glorious nippon

Jaxon Parker
Jaxon Parker

this is not actually a thing
I'm still mad. It's such a waste of two characters who actually fit each other so well.

Jason Morgan
Jason Morgan

Also western games suck dick

Brody Jones
Brody Jones

Perhaps but they sell millions. A modern Japanese game made for the Japanese market never reach the milion sales, not even close. That creates a vicious cycle of otaku pandering, doing the same bullshit over and over again and alienating any potential new consumer in favor of the same old consumer

Ian Campbell
Ian Campbell

The problem I have with Graces and Zestiria is the fact that better equipment is not easy to discern or is downright impossible to maintain understanding of, respectively. The title system that Team Destiny has is beautiful and well done in Graces yet horrid in Zestiria. The main sticking point in Zestiria is that skills are chained to the fucking equipment. Having to think fifteen moves in advance in crafting a weapon is NOT a good feature. And don't get me started on the fact that battle actions are one size fits all, with skill gates out the fucking ass to unlock them.

Dominic Johnson
Dominic Johnson

almost 16 hours late
Still though. Baba pls fuck off.

Jason Morris
Jason Morris

The worst part is that you can completely ignore the skills system and not be any worse off. Just fusing equipment drops a few times is enough to cheese the game on Chaos mode. Yeah it's cool to get a high skill stack and suddenly every attack you block restores your health, but by that point you can already destroy any battle. So much complexity and effort wasted on a system that ultimately doesn't need to be invested in anyway (in Zestiria).

Jonathan Harris
Jonathan Harris

Breseria will use Xillia engine so
Where was that confirmed? I thought they'd keep working with the Zestiria engine.

Cameron Watson
Cameron Watson

Keep telling yourself that, /v/ermin.

Parker Collins
Parker Collins

Any you tried the older games on the dolphin emulator in Virtual Reality?

Luke Turner
Luke Turner

Team Destiny has far too much love for equipment crafting bullshit, I fucking swear. Their love of multiple arte trees is also rather insane. Not every slash needs a fucking arte associated with it.

Zachary Davis
Zachary Davis

haven't played a tales game since tales of phantasia/destiny/eternia
have no idea who these girls are

It feels impossible to catch up.

Michael Jones
Michael Jones

Rose makes me diamonds but Edna is fine too.

Christian Sanchez
Christian Sanchez

I just fapped to the Zestiria girls as futa, fucking Alisha.

Chase Nelson
Chase Nelson

Still waiting on that new PV, ufo.

Jordan Wright
Jordan Wright

Sure, it's just a big conspiracy of a vocal minority from /v/. Doesn't matter people from inside the Japanese videogame industry has been complaining for years about the stagnation of the industry, the remakes and sequels, the shrinking sales, etc. Probably Kojima and Sakamoto are /v/ermins, as well as the ones making sales reports

Nicholas Gomez
Nicholas Gomez

Yeah, I used to hate Colette in the past but I like her now.

Maybe it's the Nana effect.

Nolan Murphy
Nolan Murphy

I worship Lailah's legs.

Gabriel Long
Gabriel Long

I hope Edna is all right with me fapping to her.

Dominic Hughes
Dominic Hughes

You gotta have great legs if you're going to use kicks as a big part of your attack set

Owen Bennett
Owen Bennett

Not him but ive never hated her. Always loved colette more and sheena was okay. Raine is funny with her fanatic mode

Daniel Long
Daniel Long

She's cute. Always thought she was but she's also a bit annoying.

Alexander Myers
Alexander Myers

They will probably put it out online during tales festival
they showed it at an event last week but not to the general public

Jeremiah Campbell
Jeremiah Campbell

You will never explore ruins with her.

Caleb Collins
Caleb Collins

Shiiiiit

Is that edna in a chatto outfit?

No guess not. Just generic pirate

Brody Reyes
Brody Reyes

she will never grind her ass like that against you

Ryan Moore
Ryan Moore

I bet she would have a blast with those two

Christian Flores
Christian Flores

Nothing will beat Lloyd's poster.

Not really much new content. There's been info on the Bears battle system but not much else. And the older games have been discussed to death. Book belt is clearly gonna be best girl.

Jaxson Sanchez
Jaxson Sanchez

It looks great on girls because cleavage.

I like it on Yuri.

Noah Smith
Noah Smith

Edna was the goofball smug and i loved her for it. Carried the whole thing.

Also, the ocasional Laila fujomoments and jokes and dorkeyness was cute too. ;_;7

Anthony Gomez
Anthony Gomez

Not really much new content.
For EOP maybe

Joseph Evans
Joseph Evans

The combat system was easy.

Auto attacks > Spells > Skills > auto attacks

What ever they are using, just jakenpo em

Daniel Gutierrez
Daniel Gutierrez

Woh, how did colette get #4 on the top left one?

Actaully, what are the four boxes entirely? I cant do kanji still

I know the top left is best girl and top right is best boy but what are the other two?

Kayden Nguyen
Kayden Nguyen

Just play the fun ones in this order:

Symphonia, Abyss, vesperia, xillia 2

Bentley Thomas
Bentley Thomas

Not him but ive never hated her. Always loved Presea more and sheena was okay. Raine is funny with her fanatic mode

Daniel Ross
Daniel Ross

most stylish and least stylish i think

Ayden Long
Ayden Long

They don't even sell books, games, or electronics unless it's a crappy clock or something
Sounds a lot like a merchant's booth at a con or an anime shop in Chinatown. Over priced collectibles with the durability of something half its price. I wanted to by a Xillia mug really, really bad but it's non microwavable and according to the seller, can't withstand high temperatures or bleach. Something I always wash dishes with. I did get a Milla throw blanket though. It's nice.

Tales' format works fantastically with meshing button masher and more complex combat in roots with its action RPG style.
I really like this about the combat since any one of any skill level can play. I even got my mom to play a bit of Xillia but she dropped it because she likes all action and finds story based games bong.

Yuri's relationships are so well done I like it open ended. Personally I think Yuri/Flynn/Estelle would make the cutest OT3 since Yuri and Flynn shared everything.

John Morris
John Morris

Thats from right to left right?

No way they would vote Ried as stylish and zelos as not stylish, right?

Daniel Gomez
Daniel Gomez

here's a hint, only one of them has legendia characters on it

Chase Morales
Chase Morales

I always found her cute. She's the most generic of love interest girls but I like her for her simplicity. Also she's not annoying.

Lucas Foster
Lucas Foster

Lets get this shit started.

William Clark
William Clark

All three Zestirias are great. But I'm glad your a Rosefag.

Joshua Sanders
Joshua Sanders

nice

Noah Hernandez
Noah Hernandez

not Sophie
not Mikleo
not Tear
I disagree with your tastes

Elijah Robinson
Elijah Robinson

Tear is shit.

Dominic Nelson
Dominic Nelson

Leia looks big in her chest area

Never read something so wrong

Kayden Sanchez
Kayden Sanchez

Can only agree with 2 of those

Samuel Jackson
Samuel Jackson

Exactly it looks good on girls that have tits. Yuri, just looks like a flat-chested girl so it doesn't look as good on him. If he had tits though it would look better.

Thomas Lopez
Thomas Lopez

that art style
How horrifying. Though I think Yuri's design is just right. It's masculine enough to clearly be a guy but girly enough to underestimate him. Before I heard his voice I'd assumed he'd sound dainty or something. Took awhile to get used to his voice though.

Christopher Davis
Christopher Davis

MANLY MEN DOING MANLY THINGS

Blake Wood
Blake Wood

olev

Jordan Hall
Jordan Hall

Oh god, Ludger looks good in everything.

Luis Martin
Luis Martin

three
Baba fuck off.

Colton Bell
Colton Bell

I seriously doubt Yuri can see Estelle as anything other than his little sister.

Jason Gomez
Jason Gomez

There's clearly only three.

Co-protagonist: Rose
Supporting Main Characters: Lailah and Edna.

Jack Gomez
Jack Gomez

Hopefully they animate the bath in the Zestiria anime. It fucking sucks in the game. Zestiria is just a disappointment all around it seems.

Elijah Lee
Elijah Lee

But user, there's only three.

Landon Hill
Landon Hill

I reiterate, fuck them for making Ludger's hot spring reward a hell of an experience.

Tyler Gutierrez
Tyler Gutierrez

It actually just really looks weird because that's part of the artists earlier works. Though they do draw Luke better.

Aiden Hill
Aiden Hill

I've heard that the artbook says that Yuri has thing for blondes.

Xavier Evans
Xavier Evans

That's one of the reasons Julius ending is the best one because fuck those guys.

Hunter Taylor
Hunter Taylor

Looks like they'd be better off drawing Milla.

I just enjoy seeing them together be it romantic or platonic.

Jonathan Williams
Jonathan Williams

I actually don't think into Tales anymore, I think that they dropped the series right before Xillia. So there's no Millia art.

Cooper Taylor
Cooper Taylor

Even if they did peek, Milla could just call upon Gnome and erect a wall. No need for punishment. And if we're perfectly honest, Rowen and Alvin were the only two that did the deed.

Luis Reyes
Luis Reyes

This thread needs more Mikleo.

Blake Lopez
Blake Lopez

Not surprising

Jaxson Martinez
Jaxson Martinez

But that would've been the considerate thing to do and they wasn't really big on doing things that took Ludger's or Elle's feelings into account.

Bentley Moore
Bentley Moore

Doubly so when you watch the Gekidou and he makes bedroom eyes at Guy.

Luke Moore
Luke Moore

Bros before hos has never been more appropriate a saying.

Angel Collins
Angel Collins

Luke-chan is cute! CUTE!

Logan Watson
Logan Watson

I don't know what this is. Please tell me more.

David Mitchell
David Mitchell

i laughed in the part of Project X Zone 2 were Segata chucks Yuri and Flynn to get to brainwashed Estelle, luckily for them they don't explode like they were during their fight with him when he got his hands on them then although given that they full heal i wonder if they intended them to explode but be healed anyways as some sorta additional part of the gag as well as making a funny full health restore event after the fight with Segata..

Benjamin Murphy
Benjamin Murphy

My mistakes, Gekijou is the proper term. All the episodes are on YouTube, just search Tales of Gekijou.

Leo Wright
Leo Wright

I appreciate this, thank you.

Josiah Gray
Josiah Gray

I'm just grateful that the game let you choose to not let the party get away all the shit they pulled and fuck over everyone else.

Sebastian Edwards
Sebastian Edwards

The cool thing about Luke's design is that it's a fairly low key design that works for male and females.

Pic related a character by Foo Midori.

Thomas Carter
Thomas Carter

Why are there so many doujin of Sorrey fucking Mikleo in his sleep?

Aiden Ortiz
Aiden Ortiz

Fujishima has a way with colors that just works even if the character themselves isn't all that great or important. Guy probably has my favorite color pallet.

Charles Kelly
Charles Kelly

You should link to a few dozen of them so we can study the trend.

Gabriel Gray
Gabriel Gray

Guy's color pallete is altogether very warm and inviting, giving the air of a character that could be either a noble or a servant at the same time. I really do like the character designs for Abyss.

Interesting fact Luke's hair color in when his hair is long is the color of an actual Gaillardia.

Blake Smith
Blake Smith

Sadpanda has one, the others are on pixiv, and a few on tumblr of all places.

Michael Bell
Michael Bell

Gaillardia
Huh, didn't even know it was a real thing. I even remember playing Abyss for the first time and flipping out about "Sephiroth" trees. Abyss is my favorite though in all but the OST, which I still love.

So happy the anime got a full adaptation instead of an OVA. Too bad it was never dubbed.

Evan Powell
Evan Powell

Yeah I actually ended up loving Luke's character design a lot more once I found out about that little tid bit. Actually the more I find out Luke and Guy's relationship the more I appreciate both characters on a whole.

Abyss generally has a good story with not a lot of moments that will make you bang your head against the nearest hard surface outside of Azieruth.

Nicholas Campbell
Nicholas Campbell

Azieruth
Tales of Theater
It's not my fault
Sasuga script writers.

I just wish Inomata would learn from Fujishima. Does literally the near exact character design weapon of choice included, but somehow fails in every aspect.

Luke Edwards
Luke Edwards

Why would she learn anything from Fujishima? People eat her crap like there's no tomorrow.

Milla is a prime example of this. I can't for the life of me understand why people love that BDSM shit outfit.

John Nguyen
John Nguyen

The fucked up thing about Azeriuth is that while the story constantly reminds us that Luke destroyed it you realize that he had the least blame in its destruction to the point that you could call it an inevitability.

I don't exactly like all of his designs, but he does have talent.

Ethan Reyes
Ethan Reyes

he

Andrew Wood
Andrew Wood

How do you get that costume?

Hunter Hall
Hunter Hall

I was talking about Fujishima. I love his designs for Abyss and quite a few for other games but I'm not fond of all of them.

Landon Stewart
Landon Stewart

One mirrion nippon dorar.

I can forgive Milla because of story reasons. She didn't pick it out. X2 Milla on the other hand, even in alt colors, is an eye sore. Everything but Rutee and Leon are eyesores. I hate everything she does. A lot.

Benjamin Torres
Benjamin Torres

Leon's costume is so fruity it sort of works.

Joseph Cox
Joseph Cox

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qOHZg5GKY8

Justin Cooper
Justin Cooper

it's probably for the best for everyone involved re: censorship.

I have no idea how censorship would even come into play considering the goods usually offered.

Also Pokemon Centers aren't that great, they all have the exact same arrangement of overpriced made in china plushies and school supplies.

It's not so much about the contents (The Pokemon Center finally opened up a website for orders in the US and such a few years back.) it's more the principal of feeling like equals and not inferior because we're not Nipponese.

I also question it based on the possible economic advantages it could bring, for example I imagine sales of Pokemon merchandise in the US could at the very least come close to those in Japan based on the difference in population size. Square Enix I could also possibly see, but a Tales store at this point is probably not feasible.

It's also a general critique of the stupid shit Japanese companies sometimes do, which has had disastrous consequences in the past when the Japanese branch of a company assumes full control and completely ignores what has been working the American or European branches before and makes no attempt to heed their advice.

It's pretty pathetic that it took Baba going to a convention in France (And possibly more likely flagging sales at home) for Namco to wake up and realize that as far as Tales went they had been repeatedly shitting the bed in the West with their ineffectual tactics and sometimes insulting treatment. It's no surprise that Symphonia is one of the best known and well received Tales games in the West, to my knowledge only being all right in the minds of Japanese fans, since marketing for it was taken out of Namco's bumbling hands by Nintendo.

Truly a lot of this is not even me since I really only got into the series relatively recently. It's the result of listening to a friend who has been a fan since Destiny recounting how bad Namco shit on him and others over the years.

Charles Jones
Charles Jones

I only ever knew about the Tales series because of 2 promos included back in Newtype USA DVDs. One for Abyss, and 1 for Legendia. That's it. Eternal Sonata too for that matter.

I honestly think JRPGs would get better reception if there was some sort of advertisement effort. I was surprised to see a Bravely Second TV spot during a commercial break.

Aaron Hall
Aaron Hall

Nips can be very xenophobic and almost downright terrified of change, it's one of the reasons for their low birth rate.

Kevin Scott
Kevin Scott

Funny thing is they used to advertise JRPGS a lot until the 6th generation console cycle.

Ryan Hall
Ryan Hall

The early treatment of anime stuff in the west probably damaged everyone's views on marketing on both sides.Terrible dubs, lack of any merchandise, niche advertising, and just poor quality doesn't make for a good first impression.

As much as I love YuYu Hakusho's OP, only the JP versions got full songs and the sound quality was better. I think even on the DVD I got, the Japanese video was higher quality too. Even Xillia was victim of this with Milla's fake lisp.

Levi Butler
Levi Butler

one of the best parts of Zesty was something that never even happen
What a shit game desu

Jordan Jenkins
Jordan Jenkins

Actually at the time that companies really started holding back, the anime market was actually starting to heat up. Good dubs were becoming more and more accessible and the anime market on a whole was experiencing another big boom, the market was niche but still growing and quickly.

The problem is that at this time the naysayers who hated anime because it was anime, while not actually very large in number were very loud, some of which were game developers. The problem is that Japanese developers listened to naysayers instead of the actual market. Of course they didn't realize it until the end of the 6th generation cycle, which is why we're getting more JRPGs.

Jose Evans
Jose Evans

I had a subscription to Nintendo Power starting at some point around the release of the Gamecube in the US and I think up until the end. That I think is how I came to at least recognize Symphonia since it and DoaNW got advertising. I picked up Symphonia when it was on Gamecube as a Player's Choice title, but I only played a little of it.

It was when a friend brought the series up around the time that Symphonia Chronicles was being released that I gave it another shot and really fell in love with the gameplay, characters, skits, and other stuff. Afterwards I ended up getting every Tales that was available for current systems (Bar Vesperia since I don't own a 360) and every Tales that has come out since. Admittedly however the only one I played any more of was Abyss for the 3DS. Something I would like to rectify so that I may experience all the other characters I found charming from clips I've seen or things I've read. Finishing Zesteria before Berseria comes out would be nice simply so I can recognize the connections between the two.

I can't really say I've noticed any increase in advertising on Namco's part in the West, but they seem a lot more open and willing to communicate with the Western fanbase, even catering in some areas such as Zesteria on PS4 and both it and Symphonia on PC (Though admittedly the latter was a mess), plus Tales of Link. Though I have a feeling this is because they want to supplement or make up for lost sales in Japan rather than good will.

Japanese stuff was very much big then, but it certainly seems that around the 7th generation that Japan either entered some kind of slump and/or Western fans were unsatisfied with their offerings that didn't seem to take their desires or thoughts into account, allowing Western producers to attain prominence.

While my gaming collection is a mix of both, I do think I own more Japanese games and usually enjoy what they produce more.

Matthew Long
Matthew Long

Finishing Zesteria before Berseria comes out would be nice simply so I can recognize the connections between the two.
When is the anime due? I dropped the game because it's like the game is actually fighting me so I can't enjoy playing it. I suffered through Graces so the story isn't the main problem, but I actually had a lot of fun playing Graces.

Jason Walker
Jason Walker

See

Austin Ward
Austin Ward

The problem is that Japanese developers listened to naysayers instead of the actual market
Vocal minorities ruin everything. The only reason I could ever see people disliking anime for its existence is the lolicon and underage stuff in general. Because your average American likely wouldn't be into teen girls getting molested for comedy.

Connor Edwards
Connor Edwards

It's one thing I hate, when a game has potential to explore ideas but chooses not to. Sorey and Mikleo becoming tainted and then coming back from that would have been a great development for both their characters.

Benjamin Ortiz
Benjamin Ortiz

I suppose, a gradual continuation of how Namco is currently acting would be nice though, particularly if they can manage to make some merchandise available. Even with a weak yen, shipping and handling seems like no joke.

Some branches have handled things better than others, the Namco European branch seems good at trying to make up for the fact that only Japan gets articles and art about upcoming Tales games. Also ensuring we get important things like this screenshot of Laphicet looking cute in a meadow.

Jack Ramirez
Jack Ramirez

The shota isn't Eizen, right? RIGHT?!

Noah Gonzalez
Noah Gonzalez

No.

Camden Sanders
Camden Sanders

What the fuck? Eizen's design was revealed long ago. He looks like a male Edna.

Tyler Walker
Tyler Walker

I've been gone for a while and only remember the introduction of Not-Milla and the shota.

Bentley Foster
Bentley Foster

Damn that's really long ago man. Eizen's announcement was last month I think. Did you know he's also a party member?

Brayden Sullivan
Brayden Sullivan

I think a lot of it came from jealously actually, because at the time the Japanese made games made up most of the market ,and it was still growing. So some jealous American developers may have claimed that JRPGs were dead in the West to scare away Nip developers.

Ironically enough those same developers who used to dog on JRGPs have either become jokes, after they saturated the market with their games or have been forgotten.

Lucas Phillips
Lucas Phillips

The problem with Japan's weak Yen is that the low population is partially to blame for that (which is another reason why the government wants people to have more kids), so yeah.

Namco Bandai just needs to find someway to get to all their customers at once, and they'll be set.

Luis Jenkins
Luis Jenkins

As weeb as it sounds I think Jap games are just better than western ones. I've never had an interest in Angry Face McBuff dude or games that just lack any artistic variety. EPIC!!! music doesn't appeal to me in the slightest nor does a FPS. Not saying there are no good Western games nor all JP games are perfect, but I just find Jap ones are better put together as a whole and in number.

Jaxson Gutierrez
Jaxson Gutierrez

There will be no hot springs or beach episodes in the anime.
They could stop pretending it's difficult to translate things into English in a timely manner and that nobody notices when they receive goods a year after spoilers have already spread across the world.
Japanese games have more effective music anyway. Too much western stuff is just 'nature sounds with muffled orchestra playing in the distance'.

Dominic Moore
Dominic Moore

mfw Sorey's broad shoulders
I want him to mamoru me.

'nature sounds with muffled orchestra playing in the distance'.
More like latin chanting and testosterone pumping rock. Techno if it's scifi. I honestly can't name any western games off the top of my head with notable soundtracks and music people will just listen to without it being a premade song for a different purpose.

Funny though when a westerner takes anime inspiration and their works become noticeably memorable in some aspect.

Ian Mitchell
Ian Mitchell

At the time we did some really original Western games the problem is that they overestimated themselves, and other Western developers hungry for money and wanting to fill up the hole left by JRPGs copied other popular games and became less experimental, which is why the market became saturated so quickly.

Nathan Martinez
Nathan Martinez

Baba isn't even involved with berseria

Tfw i've predicted this long ago after that zestiria fiasco

good fucking riddance, and the new producer guy seems like a cool guy, the way he says fuck you to censorship sjw bullshit

Yeah, I doubt Zesty is as hated as it is over here as it is over there.
Implying
if anything the hate in the west is pretty moderate than, they don't go out their way to
threaten to murder baba and his family after all

Jacob Butler
Jacob Butler

I like X2 Milla's outfit more, I feel blue suits her more than red.

Leo Morris
Leo Morris

Well he doesn't need to do anything since Japanese feminists are the ones telling the SJWs to go fuck off.

Ryan Torres
Ryan Torres

It's the execution that matters. The entire outfit is downright ugly anyways.

Anthony Powell
Anthony Powell

I like Berseria's Milla outfit even more. Black and red are a great combo on her.

Elijah Lewis
Elijah Lewis

Sorey's swimsuit outfit is great

Easton White
Easton White

that look that Sorey gives Mikleo.

James Campbell
James Campbell

I'm just here for Rose.

Logan Myers
Logan Myers

One of the best parts of Zestiria

Christopher Gutierrez
Christopher Gutierrez

Are you strong enough to save her?

Adam Hughes
Adam Hughes

mfw I missed the side quest fight against her and Zaveid

I really wanted to kick her smug ass.

Anthony Lopez
Anthony Lopez

I think it would look good if the yellow and black stuff was removed

Connor Reed
Connor Reed

Source?

Owen Diaz
Owen Diaz

I;ve played Graces F, Abyss, xilla 1 & 2, Symphonia and Sym 2.

Is Zestiria really that bad I had thought about picking it up at some point?

Aiden Morris
Aiden Morris

That fight was fucking intense. Why aren't those clowns that strong when they're in my party?

Daniel King
Daniel King

Meh, I enjoyed it.

Just ignore the skill-equipment system, you'll be fine.

I remember being whipped around by Hubert (the second fight) in Graces. I guess vs party member fights are always tough?

Ian Reed
Ian Reed

I enjoyed it. Havent really replayed it though

Edna carries the whole game

Blake Fisher
Blake Fisher

I got 360 hours in.

And it's actually Rose that carries the whole game. Trust me. I have more experience on the subject.

Jace Davis
Jace Davis

I want Edna to step on my dick while thinking of her brother's dragon cock

Jaxson Walker
Jaxson Walker

I hated the story and the combat, but still played it almost to the end. If you've played other Tales games, you might as well do Zesteria

Christopher Morales
Christopher Morales

shit story
shit characters
shit gameplay
Don't trust the waifufags in this thread who claims X was worth it. They're all shit. Save your money.

Dylan Diaz
Dylan Diaz

I want to smell her boots

Joseph Martin
Joseph Martin

I want to fuck her.

Aiden Sanders
Aiden Sanders

fucking nerd faggots

Lincoln Nelson
Lincoln Nelson

She's the only reason I bothered with ToZ. Edna surpassed Rita for me. She's now the best girl in any Tales game.

Sebastian Baker
Sebastian Baker

Hell yeah I kept Fenrir as my main monster recruit, too! One day I will sit down and play dotnw again

Michael Robinson
Michael Robinson

no one in this thread has played a game before Abyss

feels good to be a god among plebs

Thomas Wood
Thomas Wood

What was the earliest one you played new, anon-chan?

Henry Lewis
Henry Lewis

Didn't start with the translated Phantasia rom.
What kind of newfag are you, user? Played Symphonia like a colossal faggot?

Noah White
Noah White

I've only played both Xillias and Zestiria.

I've been under the impression that Xillia, Abyss, and Vesperia are the only games worth playing from what I've heard about the series.

Owen Morris
Owen Morris

mfw Symphonia is still my favorite Tales

Caleb Baker
Caleb Baker

I've only played Abyss, Hearts, Graces, ToS/2, Xillia 1 and 2, and Zestiria.

Though I need to play Vesperia but no 360

Sebastian Bell
Sebastian Bell

Symphonia dawn of the new world is my favorite Tales.

Kevin Ortiz
Kevin Ortiz

Would people love Vesperia so much if Yuri wasn't the MC?

Even watching the anime was great mostly because of scenes like :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnfFVqGE6w8

Jeremiah Myers
Jeremiah Myers

Damn I had so much fun playing as Gaius.
Didn't have such a blast since Yuri
Them combos
Them counters
Dat big ass sword
It was like having Hakumen in a Tales game.

Levi Morales
Levi Morales

While I'm not sure if people were aware of it at the time, Namco's decision to seemingly half-ass the Tales games they did bring over probably didn't help the series. I recall being told about Destiny having an abridged script and not being completely voiced. Symphonia suffered as well from having no voiced skits.

July 2016 supposedly

You might also have a point, my memory if fuzzy, but I do vaguely recall something of negative campaign by certain Western developers and maybe even Western gaming sites.

The West does cover in some areas where Japan lacks and WRPGs offer a much more different experience than their JRPG counterparts. For example, while JRPGs usually have stronger characters, I'd argue that WRPGs have much better worldbuilding, either because they're directly based on pen and paper RPG settings or draw their inspiration from them.

Connor Ortiz
Connor Ortiz

mfw Tales of Link is pretty fun

Grayson Butler
Grayson Butler

a tales thread
You guys made my night.
Which is/are your favorite bonus fights? Which do you think is/are the hardest?

Andrew Cruz
Andrew Cruz

X2 Milla on the other hand, even in alt colors, is an eye sore.
That's why you use her jacket-off and also equip bunny ears and tail.

Easton Reed
Easton Reed

rather smell her feets

Brody Martinez
Brody Martinez

My first Tales of was Phantasia GBA.
And I didn't even finish playing it.

Nolan Peterson
Nolan Peterson

Don't know. I really like the whole main cast in Vesperia.
I like the character dynamics bewteen most of them, mainly how Estelle had a crush on Flynn and later Yuri and how that didn't really become anything.
I like how Yuri and Karol form Brave Vesperia and how it becomes a legit thing when it goes on too.
And most of that would change dramatically if you take anyone of the main party save for Patty.

Charles Robinson
Charles Robinson

Since this is a Sup Forums thread I will ask:
Do you guys like Abyss animu?

Parker Ortiz
Parker Ortiz

I bet Arche fucks like a tiger
Now stop implying.

Jaxon Roberts
Jaxon Roberts

It's actually not a bad little game. Gets a tad repetitive though and it sucks that you have to grind if you don't want to pay a cent for the chance to gamble on getting good heroes.

Oh me too, but the boots make a good warm up.

Jaxson Flores
Jaxson Flores

wish i had patience for mobage

Brandon Stewart
Brandon Stewart

Fuck you, ufo. Stop teasing.

And dust off your damn keyboard.

Eli Perry
Eli Perry

zaveid is allowed to have nipples in the office

Blake Reyes
Blake Reyes

I liked those sticker with short interaction, that made the team so more lively.

Lincoln Brown
Lincoln Brown

Edna is really cute. I might as well ply this shit just for her.

How stupid is her story?

Daniel Diaz
Daniel Diaz

She's mostly there to be a comedy bitch. Anyone who isn't Sorey, Mikleo or the fake heroines is just along for the ride.

Thomas Sullivan
Thomas Sullivan

I remember people saying before that it would be great to see the three of them interact.

Skimming through both of their art books, I noticed that Fujishima seemed to put a lot more thought into the characters clothing and all their bits and pieces, while Inomata seemed a lot more general. Of course this is just going off the picture, the text could tell a different story. I generally think of the three or four Tales artists I prefer Fujishima, though I like characters the others have worked on.

Henry Diaz
Henry Diaz

tales of innocence fan here.

Nolan Morris
Nolan Morris

Dresseed casually like Assman/Rouge.
Is Assman by official occupation
Plays with a Lack of Assman skills.

Well okay, all I got was a knockoff Nel Zelpher.

Parker Lewis
Parker Lewis

How high were the writers of reve unitia?

David Nguyen
David Nguyen

Why are the character designs in this series so good?

I only played Zestiria to have an excuse to buy Alisha's alter figure

Caleb Wright
Caleb Wright

I'd kind of like to get Edna, but I'm not sure if I can really justify it.

Joshua Morales
Joshua Morales

Well it is a really good figure.

Owen Martin
Owen Martin

So, I've been wanting to get into Zestiria, but have heard so much shit about what was cut and all the mistakes and everything else. Is it worth getting at a lower price?

Michael Nelson
Michael Nelson

Personally if there's any manufacturer to spend stupid and impulsive money on, it's Alter. Their figs are great.

David Evans
David Evans

It really is, Zestiria was a meh game but I don't regret the binge play and impulse buy at all. Definitely my favorite fig.

Elijah Sanders
Elijah Sanders

Even if I may not necessarily have anywhere to display it at the moment?

Lucas Williams
Lucas Williams

Best to act now and preorder cause if you wait until after release the price will skyrocket. Alter's figs are really worth it.

Landon Turner
Landon Turner

cut
Don't know what you're talking about. There are design choices that not everyone loves, but beyond that it's waifucancer and conspiracies.

Alexander Wright
Alexander Wright

They mean Alisha being advertised as the main girl then Baba deciding to make Rose the main everything going so far as to revoicing a lot of scenes. Also, it's really obvious much more was meant to be added in because of the vast empty fields of nothing and some areas looking half finished.

Brandon Fisher
Brandon Fisher

Guys, the shota is in the Marlind Museum as a portrait.

Carson Scott
Carson Scott

Can't say I've ever heard of them revoicing scenes or this complaint of unfinished areas. And Rose is still a secondary character at best. There's obvious bait and switch that took place, but I think people tend to overstate what that involved.

Christian Reyes
Christian Reyes

One theory was that they planned Zesty to be branched into two paths, Alisha or Rose. Don't ask for citation or anything like that, this was pure theory by some people I think.

Carson Lee
Carson Lee

that design
normal clothes + gauntlets and greaves
dumb shorts
good
Fucking mess is what it is.

Xavier King
Xavier King

it's an alishafags and their baseless conspiracy theory episode

Brody Torres
Brody Torres

alishafags
Baba pls. In all the promotional art, the OVA, and general advertising it was always Alisha. Then Rose happened.

Henry Allen
Henry Allen

Then Rose happened.
One damn year after, at that. Baba let his waifufaggotry go too far.

Elijah Thompson
Elijah Thompson

I don't think Anon's Sister is normally associated with waifus. You can be aware that Rose took over the primary girl (though not heroine, because Mikleo too stronk) role without being invested in one of them because it's extremely obvious Baba discovered his own waifu.

Kayden Parker
Kayden Parker

Good thing you're not a character designer

Anthony Roberts
Anthony Roberts

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=55394744

James Jones
James Jones

Aren't you still able to buy updated versions of Alisha's equipment long after she leaves the party? Plus the mere existence of her second mystic arte is more than enough evidence to suggest that she was supposed to be around a lot more, but it was cut for some reason.

Lincoln Butler
Lincoln Butler

I don't really care about either one, but it's actually pretty easy to tell just from looking at their character designs.

Christian Bennett
Christian Bennett

Is Ufotable going to adapt Zestiria as is or are they going to fix it and get rid of Rose?

Michael Morales
Michael Morales

You can, but that's more because of the way the shops are stocked, which isn't preset, and the fact that you have to use her again in a late-game boss fight but can run around with her for a bit beforehand.
Not that I think her role wasn't reduced, but temporary characters having full move sets and equipment options isn't unheard of either.

Brandon Evans
Brandon Evans

They're going to get rid of Alishiashit as soon as possible.

Oliver Harris
Oliver Harris

Well yeah, Rose has the better character design.

Thank god Rose wasn't a spear fighter, that'd be extremely unfair for Alisha.

Jeremiah Ward
Jeremiah Ward

Wasn't said DLC added in after the fact though?

No she doesn't, especially for a main female. speaking from a purely designing stand point, Rose doesn't look like a main female, her character design doesn't really stand out, it's too simple.

Oliver Perez
Oliver Perez

They'll probably change it. I mean, look at Alisha and Rose here. They're the same size. Not to mention that if they did the same to Alisha in the anime like in the game then there would most likely be a building or two being set on fire in Japan.

I absolutely hated what they did to God Eater. But with Zestiria? I'm looking forward to the changes.

Rose has the better character design.
Nah.

Bentley Thompson
Bentley Thompson

And Rose is still a secondary character at best.
She's co-protagonist.

Logan Nguyen
Logan Nguyen

Rose has the better character design
That's just false, user.

I hope they change it. Rose is a cunt, especially after what went down in the Alisha's Story DLC.

Isaac White
Isaac White

She does. Her outfit fits its purpose and looks appealing as it is.

Rose doesn't look like a main female
It is a matter of who they put in the coverage first. A LOT of previous Tales main female have simple design like Rose.

Jeremiah Wood
Jeremiah Wood

Aliashit is just a generic peace princess, and a drill hair and ZR don't make her a good design.

Alexander Price
Alexander Price

But that's Mikleo.

Elijah Bell
Elijah Bell

I'm not talking about the DLC. She rejoins the party for a little while later in the main story. Her dlc adventure is separate. I think her second MA is also located there, so if you don't play it she'll always be one short.
That's Mikleo. Rose has exactly zero to do with the plot. Even Lailah is more relevant.

Josiah Rivera
Josiah Rivera

Second best character design in the game.

Hunter Jackson
Hunter Jackson

And the best one being?

Sebastian Phillips
Sebastian Phillips

It isn't, Rose looks halfway between a party member and important NPC. But her design isn't eye catching enough to be a main female.

It's not just the coverage, when you look at the posters, Alisha's design makes her stand out more, it's more eye catching, and you can tell that more thought went into it.

Hunter Ross
Hunter Ross

Lailah's probably like 3rd most relevant.

You can literally replace Meebo with a cardboard cutout and it'll have the same effect as the real one. Until like the scene right before the final boss form I guess.

Jack Phillips
Jack Phillips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhMOAL7o2mQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPkhYGypzf8

Asher Allen
Asher Allen

A LOT of previous Tales main female have simple design like Rose.
Simple and bland aren't the same. Rose's colors make her fade into the background and it's not for the sake of being an assassin. Tear wears mostly brown butwill easily stand out next to an NPC. Rose looks like an NPC that got mixed into the main story. I honestly put her in Alisha's outfit just because it looked better. Would be perfect if her hair was closer to pink or a brighter color.

If Rose was put next to all the main girls, she would stick out like a sore thumb or be over looked by more appealing designs.

Adrian Brooks
Adrian Brooks

Destiny anime never.
;_;

Jacob Martinez
Jacob Martinez

Rose's design isn't really simple so much as it's just plain, all the other main females with simple designs that aren't plain.

Isaiah Hernandez
Isaiah Hernandez

Why would an assasin wear slutty dress like Alishit?
I swear if Rose's design is swapped with Alishit's, people will shut up regarding How irrelevant their waifu is.

David Allen
David Allen

Not really, it's say that more about Rose than any other character.

Christian Barnes
Christian Barnes

Edna is less relevant to the plot. A rock with Earth kamui will have the same effect.

Dylan Anderson
Dylan Anderson

Please calm your bait

Jonathan Wood
Jonathan Wood

An assassin needs to be able to mix fit whatever disguise they use. She's the Shepard's squire so reasonably she should look like one. The best kind of assassin is one that doesn't look like they could be one.

Luke Edwards
Luke Edwards

Was there any reason to write Alisha out of the story? Why didn't they just add Rose in as another playable character if they wanted her to be one? I'm not an expert on Tales lore but couldn't Sorey have multiple squires?

Kayden Perry
Kayden Perry

I like how they handled Alishia. A peace princess who was useless and got kicked out early in the story.
I wished Bandai could've done the same with Kudelia.

Angel Martinez
Angel Martinez

It worked out for Sheena who has my favorite design. Alvin and to an extent Raven didn't seem like killers at a first glance either. But there's blood on all their hands.

Ayden Rivera
Ayden Rivera

Before Baba.

Hunter Gonzalez
Hunter Gonzalez

After Baba.

Brandon Mitchell
Brandon Mitchell

Tales is a pretty garbage series but this design does things to muh dick.

If she really is an edgy femc would be please my dick further.

Eli Brooks
Eli Brooks

Did they really just poorly edit Cheria (Asbel's waifu) 's location

Julian Adams
Julian Adams

Exactly the design of an assassin doesn't need to be plain.

Luis Lewis
Luis Lewis

She just wants to fuck shotas and kill people

Xavier Reed
Xavier Reed

Nah, Colette is something that I'd call bland. Rose would do just fine among the main females and distinguishable enough as one of the important characters in her game.

If there's anything bad about her design, it's the hairstyle. I do think it's too much of an average Jane, she could have looked much better with flashier hairstyle.

Daniel Hall
Daniel Hall

You need max speed and to go downhill. You can't do it all that much really.

Jaxson Torres
Jaxson Torres

No Collete's design and it's usage of colors is simple but not bland. Rose's design and use of colors is just bland, almost like an NPC.

Nathan Brown
Nathan Brown

Doen't need to be striking either to tell people "I'm not an assassin".

Lucas Gomez
Lucas Gomez

You don't need to be boring to do the same.

Logan Wood
Logan Wood

Make a game with no corny romance this time
Just bro's doing shit
Autistic Yaoi shippers eat it up

Fuck this fanbase

Dominic Stewart
Dominic Stewart

white outfit and light blonde hair
not bland
Yeah nah, you cunt.

Bentley Allen
Bentley Allen

I'm just glad Berseria has a producer who doesn't think "the camera is part of the challenge."

Brody Reed
Brody Reed

Rose is not boring to me, Alishia's shit dialogues were enough for me not to care for that useless princess

Adam Fisher
Adam Fisher

You don't even need to be a fujoshit to see the sexual tension between Sorey and Meebo. Blame the devs for pandering, if anything.

Kayden Powell
Kayden Powell

Fuck you all. Rose is best girl.

Zachary Gomez
Zachary Gomez

Rose is a cunt

David Rivera
David Rivera

Nah you just can't relate that's why, literally no sexual shit at all.

William Sanders
William Sanders

So slap fights are normal between two male friends?

Cameron Thompson
Cameron Thompson

You can change design to your liking with costumes.

But you can't shit a shit character like Alisha.

Kevin Myers
Kevin Myers

Go to Final Fantasy if you want romance. Oh wait.

Wyatt Rivera
Wyatt Rivera

The color usage isn't bland, and especially when she's with the party she still stands out.

John Hill
John Hill

fix a shit character

Lucas Collins
Lucas Collins

And edit in Rose, yes.

Chase Cruz
Chase Cruz

I'm talking about designs here though, I don't give a shit about either character.

Leo Hughes
Leo Hughes

You have tickle fights with your male friends?

Bentley Robinson
Bentley Robinson

He sure is concentrating on dem apples.

Joshua Ortiz
Joshua Ortiz

the game ships it
the development team ships it
ufotable ships it
Y-Yeah. Fuck the f-fanbase, r-right?

Andrew Bell
Andrew Bell

Mikleo a best.

Nathan Sanders
Nathan Sanders

The guy is basically his brother and shit like that is probably how people get along back then

Ian Sullivan
Ian Sullivan

Mikleo gets the night-time balcony of love AND the post-credits reunion in a personally meaningful place
Pretty sure the devs intended them to be a bit romantic.

Logan Nguyen
Logan Nguyen

You have slap/tickle fights with your brother?

back then
What?

Daniel Parker
Daniel Parker

Posting best girl.

Matthew Howard
Matthew Howard

those characters
Based ufo knows what's up.

Christopher Long
Christopher Long

So a nigger has Symphonia and graces on ps3.

I hear the former has boring gameplay so I'm better off trudging through that first right?

Matthew Foster
Matthew Foster

Happy times are ahead of us

Joseph Young
Joseph Young

So a nigger has Symphonia and graces on ps3.
What? Are you referring to yourself or someone black you know? I dont understand.

Nice choice.

Aaron Howard
Aaron Howard

Symphonia is decently fun and you have 8 characters to mess around with.

Graces is MUH FRIENDSHIP, but a more fun battle system.

Henry Allen
Henry Allen

I wouldn't really call Symphonia's gameplay boring but you should still play it first if you're going to play both. Starting with the newer game and then playing the older one is probably not a good idea.

Juan Thompson
Juan Thompson

I doubt they will change anything significant. What's done is already done. Mikleo and Lailah are by far more important than either girls and the are small. Edna is by far one of the most popular characters, and ufo loves, and she's small. Alisha isn't as popular as you want to believe and she's absent in most of ufo's zesty promo or really insignificant.

Carter Murphy
Carter Murphy

Will we ever get a take on Tales of Destiny but with Leon living for once? I think there is a lot of unexplored potential here, with him properly bonding with Stahn and the party and facing his father.
It's the twenty anniversary for Destiny next year so hopefully we get something other than fancy pachinko machines.

James Brooks
James Brooks

I should expect like 40 hours worth from each game right?

Angel Fisher
Angel Fisher

I don't understand how people can think Rose looks bland. Are people too used to overdesigned pieces of shit? Look at that jacket and dress shirt, it's cute as fuck. She needs a better hairstyle.

Tyler Brooks
Tyler Brooks

Mikleo's message to Sorey from the Tales anniversary artbook:
My childhood friend was the only one person who has no power as we have.
After I had recognized human is fragile, I had no doubt this is my business to be with him.
First of all, I have the logic of the world.
I’m not beaten at knowledge by him but strength.

I always believed we will never change to keep living with feeling great history in Elysia.
But still,you began to progress because of a longing for the tradition.
You had a kindness and pure heart brought up by the earth so you became the shepherd to devote your life and a sword to the lady of lake along a tradition,in other words,you can not avoid bearing the destiny of purification and the dragon’s emblem.

You were denied. You were avoided. People who should saved by you were afraid of you. Even so,you were smiling with tears and kept standing to be strong as shepherd.

If I could share your sadness with you or disappear your sufferings…actually,If I was the same race as you,I could understand you and stand by you closer.
I could heal your heart to share our soul if I could live in exactly same time.

Water is sensitive than other attributes and spill out easier.
This means there is a possibility to draw malevolence to friends by my little hesitation.
However,water can wash it away clearly and also purify with changing their form flexible.

If pains of each other make us feel a acute grief as if it happened to myself,I’m going to eliminate any your hardships.
Although something make me to be confused or anger or cry to save no person,I must keep your own life being no malevolence by my power of water.

Alexander Jenkins
Alexander Jenkins

Sounds about right.

Jordan Wright
Jordan Wright

THREE (3) APPLES

Kayden Ross
Kayden Ross

New Milla disgusts me.

Cooper Cooper
Cooper Cooper

Mikleo's message to Sorrey from the Tales 20th anniversary book:
My childhood friend was the only one person who has no power as we have.
After I had recognized human is fragile, I had no doubt this is my business to be with him.
First of all, I have the logic of the world.
I’m not beaten at knowledge by him but strength.

I always believed we will never change to keep living with feeling great history in Elysia.
But still,you began to progress because of a longing for the tradition.
You had a kindness and pure heart brought up by the earth so you became the shepherd to devote your life and a sword to the lady of lake along a tradition,in other words,you can not avoid bearing the destiny of purification and the dragon’s emblem.

You were denied. You were avoided. People who should saved by you were afraid of you. Even so,you were smiling with tears and kept standing to be strong as shepherd.

If I could share your sadness with you or disappear your sufferings…actually,If I was the same race as you,I could understand you and stand by you closer.
I could heal your heart to share our soul if I could live in exactly same time.

Water is sensitive than other attributes and spill out easier.
This means there is a possibility to draw malevolence to friends by my little hesitation.
However,water can wash it away clearly and also purify with changing their form flexible.

If pains of each other make us feel a acute grief as if it happened to myself,I’m going to eliminate any your hardships.
Although something make me to be confused or anger or cry to save no person,I must keep your own life being no malevolence by my power of water.

Joseph Diaz
Joseph Diaz

His name is Kor
Literally everyone in the game calls him Shing

Why is this allowed?

Lucas Taylor
Lucas Taylor

cont.
This is my life that had dead once as a human and rebirth as a seraphim.
It’s my duty to make advance with friend and find a significance I was rebirth as a seraphim.
That’s because we had destined to bear the fate over the shepherd from our origin.

There is the light of circlet on my forehead.
I’ll give it a great power as a seraphim who lives close to human.
That is what like a hope Gramp put into a book or a wish Muse offered prayers to the circlet.

We need no more words to pledge.
You already know my true name long time ago.
The voice calling my name always give the power for me to go beyond everything together whatever hardship or grief stand in our way.

So yeah, it makes sense that Mikleo's feelings towards Sorey can be seen as homosexual in nature.

Brayden Peterson
Brayden Peterson

They're not little kids though, they're having those being that playful as adults.

Even in the past people didn't used to have tickle fights with one another.

Joseph Martinez
Joseph Martinez

GamerClick: Many player didn't like Zestiria. Do you think they'll like more Berseria?

Fukaya: Talking about content, the secondary chapters in Zestiria were less than in previous games, but in Berseria we're going to have a lot of secondary chapters, and many oh them will give important informations abaotu the main story. In the same way, while Zestiria doens't have mini games, Berseria we'll have many mini games.

GamerClick: Velvet is similar to Milla, is it just a coincidence?

Fukaya: Milla was very important in the process of Velvet's creation, because Milla is one of most beloved characer of the series, not only in Japan, but even in Europe and North America. So no, it was not a coincidence, and it was very difficult to create a character like Milla.

Get fucked sjw

Bentley Reyes
Bentley Reyes

what is romantic friendship
He even explicitly said the word friend. Educate yourself:
http://www.bartleby.com/32/105.html

Jeremiah Turner
Jeremiah Turner

BEST WAIFU
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Carter Sullivan
Carter Sullivan

This fukaya guy sounds like a total bro

Ryder Sanchez
Ryder Sanchez

Written in 1909
Yeah, this is just closeted homosexuality. Don't kid yourself.

Christopher Stewart
Christopher Stewart

The two of them aren't in a relationship, they are friends. You can have romantic feelings towards your friends but it wouldn't change the fact that they're still your friend.

Or are you one of those idiots who believes that once a person has feelings for someone else that automatically means that they're in a relationship?

William Butler
William Butler

I think she'd look better if her clothes didn't look like she got into a fight with a lawn mower. Tattered rags can be stylish if designed right. See Bloodborne. I don't find Milla and Jude's angsty daughter stylish outside of her flashback look.

David Sanchez
David Sanchez

My problem with Velvet is that she looks over designed.

Jack Evans
Jack Evans

because Milla is one of most beloved characer of the series
Rita is more popular female.
They should have Velvet loli-like, like Edna, who got tons of popularity and art right after they unveiled her design, something Velvet didn't get.

Isaac Kelly
Isaac Kelly

1580 actually, the translation is from 1909

The two of them aren't in a relationship, they are friends
We're arguing the same point then. Perhaps I should not have used the confusing term "romantic friendship" to describe this type of intense friendship. But I think we can all agree with Montaigne that it's wrong to read anything sexual in this type of relationships, since is far nobler. If you read the quote below from the essay I posted, it's pretty clear that the latter better describes Mikleo and Sorey.
the flames of passion are more active, sharp and keen. But that fire is a rash one, fickle, fluctuating and variable; it is a feverish fire, subject to attacks and relapses, which only gets hold of a corner of us. The love of friends is a general universal warmth, temperate moreover and smooth, a warmth which is constant and at rest, all gentleness and evenness, having nothing sharp nor keen.

Kevin Jackson
Kevin Jackson

Yuri forever banned

Juan Long
Juan Long

1580
Point still stands, if not moreso. Literally just closeted homosexuality. You couldn't just come out and say "I want to fuck my male friends" in 1580, you'd be burned at the stake.

Matthew Rogers
Matthew Rogers

And Leon

Jack Clark
Jack Clark

You know the only ones who bother voting for that trash poll is fujoshit right? and i rather trust the new producer guy than some random user on Sup Forums

Just like most of tales character then

Don't worry, you can always wear less, she definitely will have her half nude prisonner costume as DLC

Jaxon Flores
Jaxon Flores

anyone who doesn't like Velvet design is an SJW

Carter Perez
Carter Perez

See

Camden Wright
Camden Wright

Are you seriously arguing Rita is not more popular than Milla? Vesperia cast shits all over xillia's. Unless you have some other popularity poll I'll take that over some producer with a Milla fetish. Seems like they all have a waifu now.

Benjamin Richardson
Benjamin Richardson

I hope Berseria is good and sell a fuckton

Brandon Williams
Brandon Williams

Sounds like Toryiama- Lightning, Baba-Rose situation. They like a character and want to convince everyone that they are beloved too

Jonathan Lewis
Jonathan Lewis

Your /v/ is showing. Keep that boogeyman shit out of here.

Jack Cox
Jack Cox

implying Sup Forums doesn't do the same thing all the time

Julian Mitchell
Julian Mitchell

yup

She's a demon that hulks out frequently, driven at first solely by vengeance. Of course her clothing is going to fucked up and she doesn't care. Anyone can tell exactly what her personality is supposed to be by what she looks like which is good visual design.

Jordan Hill
Jordan Hill

He won't have to, Xillia is by far the best selling tales of game ever, both in japan and western

it's only logical they would design a character similiar to milla, appearance-wise, gotta milk it somehow

David Price
David Price

I never once claimed that they were in a romantic relationship, but rather that their feelings for one another were homosexual in nature.

Also bit of advice be don't ever quote any old authors, philosophers, or theorists on the subject on homosexuality in literature or otherwise in the past, because a lot of the people who wrote that shit were in fact closeted homosexuals themselves. And used to write that bullshit to justify their own attraction or feelings towards other men. That's why essays like that tend to taken as bullshit now-a-days.

Jayden Sanders
Jayden Sanders

Xillia is by far the best selling tales of game ever
That goes to symphonia or abyss.
Nearly every jrpg fan played one of those.

Nolan Powell
Nolan Powell

zestiria halloween costumes when?

in b4 catboy mikleo

Caleb Kelly
Caleb Kelly

No. That design is trash. It looks like it was done under the supervision of an edgy 14 years old social reject.

Connor Peterson
Connor Peterson

Best selling Tales are Destiny and Destiny 2, then Abyss.

Thomas Williams
Thomas Williams

As far as I've seen it's just her arm that hulks out. Also, I find her clothes too bright of a red. Worked for Rutee, but I just find every other cast member more appealing to look at than Velvet. Even book belt.

Christopher Barnes
Christopher Barnes

implying you can actually surmise that much from her design only
Don't kid yourself, you came to that conclusion after you saw few character summaries and trailers.

Ethan Phillips
Ethan Phillips

I know this is bait but Montaigne explicitly denied that sort of lust in true friendship:
And that alternative licence of the Greeks is rightly abhorrent to our manners; moreover since as they practised it it required a great disparity of age and divergence of favours between the lovers, it did not correspond either to that perfect union and congruity which we are seeking here. For even the portrayal of it by the Academy will not I think belie me when I say this about it: that the original frenzy inspired by Venus’ son16 in the heart of the Lover towards the bloom of a tender youth (in which they allow all the excessive and passionate assaults which an immoderate ardour can produce) was simply based on physical beauty, a false image of generation in the body (for it could not have been based on the mind, which had yet to show itself, which was even then being born, too young to sprout)
It saddens me that lardwhale tumblrinas cannot accept the existence of such a strong relationship between men that isn't sexual in nature, though your hysteria does vindicate Montaigne's own claim that women is incapable of attaining these noble relationships.

Aaron Davis
Aaron Davis

And it really stands out, since half of what she's wearing is tattered rags, so it's even weirder that she's got a bunch of extra shit all over the place.

Christian Parker
Christian Parker

We only see her arm "hulk out". I'd rather her wear a bikini rather than that retarded shredded shit. But no, I'll have to buy dlc to get her in something actually good.

Dominic Young
Dominic Young

Maybe they were planning on dubbing it it at some point?

Easton Foster
Easton Foster

1. Symphonia
2. Destiny
3. Destiny 2
4. Xillia

http://garaph.info/gamesearch.php?titleenglish=tales&stte=1&titlejapanese=&platform=&stpl=0&publisher=&stpu=0&date1=&date2=&std=&price1=&price2=&sltd1=&sltd2=&gameid=&orderby=&res1=&res2=&opt=1

Jayden Rivera
Jayden Rivera

any close relationship between men were homosexual in nature, dey just faggots in denial!!!!111!!
how dare you suggest the existence of something so noble that is beyond the comprehension of my tiny leftist feminist brain

Bentley Green
Bentley Green

personality =/= backstory, sure you won't know what her deal is just by looking at her but but you can guess she has a harsh personality and probably doesn't care about what people think.

i look forward to purchasing the swimwear dlc and finding Velvet's bikini also shredded

Nolan Williams
Nolan Williams

over designed

Literal meme word that has lost all meaning. Just like comfy.

Kevin Green
Kevin Green

Comfy never had any meaning, though.
It's the new "it's fun" when you lack arguments do defend something you like.

Daniel Bell
Daniel Bell

Her design makes my dick solid hard, so of course it's a good design

after zesti garbage, velvet was a welcome change.

Benjamin Gutierrez
Benjamin Gutierrez

It's a clusterfuck of belts and pieces of fabric that have no cohesion. The only part that looks good is the underboob top. The edgy cape is shit.

Noah Cooper
Noah Cooper

Montaigne
The same guy who hated the ideas of marriage, and romantic love?
Never quote quote old philosophers especially on the subject of love, marriage, and friendship. It's just like why Freud is laughable today.

quotes old philosophers who have a tendency to be well known to autistic closeted homosexuals who come up with their bullshit philosophies because they don't want to admit that they're abnormal.
gets called out for it
you just don't understand.
Hilariously enough it's not feminists that call out their bullshit, but other men who realize that they're full of shit.

Eli Morgan
Eli Morgan

i look forward to purchasing dlc
Just kill yourself

Jonathan Green
Jonathan Green

You don't need to wear retarded outfit to show that much. Mere facial expression can convey it better.

Face it, that costume was designed with fapbait as priority, which is not a bad thing, but let's not pretend it's anything deep and representative of the character.

Landon Wilson
Landon Wilson

You sound like a closeted homosexual yourself trying to justify this with 500 year old philosophy. It's the CURRENT YEAR, it's OK to be gay. Nobody cares.

Jonathan Jackson
Jonathan Jackson

Why is everyone complaining about Velvet's design when Eizen's design is 10x edgier?

asymmetrical boots
knife in his lapel
black coat with dragon wings on the back
and holes for his phantom wings
literally called a shinigami

We'll probably get a skit where they exchange "cool" end of battle quotes while Magilou takes the piss out of them.

Hudson Rodriguez
Hudson Rodriguez

What other word should I use to mean overdone.

Logan James
Logan James

Kek, nice bullshit generic assumptions.
Her design is fine and is a perfect fit

Cameron Taylor
Cameron Taylor

This woman doesn't transform into a goddamn monster.

Isaac Rodriguez
Isaac Rodriguez

it's OK to be gay. Nobody cares.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMTbFSJ_Tr4
In russia you could be beaten to death if you gay, and the offender won't get a heavy punishment, because gay is a literal crime
and the same also happen in most part of the world

also if i hate kids, and argue that kids shouldn't be sexualized, is that mean that i'm a closet pedo?

Parker Mitchell
Parker Mitchell

At this point it's clear you either have no sense of style and thus can't identify why others think a design is poor, are a jap, or are only thinking with your dick like a 14 year old.

Christopher Brooks
Christopher Brooks

Velvet doesn't go full Hulk either, it's only her arm.

They can give her something like pic related, which is obviously far less retarded looking and can get the "meaning" across, but nope, let's give her tattered rags so she looks like a rape victim.

Oliver Russell
Oliver Russell

Says the underage pretentious retard who lose his shit as soon something is erotic, despite making perfect sense.

Angel Robinson
Angel Robinson

it's only her arm.
Did you finish the game? No? That's what I thought.

Owen Lee
Owen Lee

looks like a rape victim
sjw spotted

Levi Nguyen
Levi Nguyen

She's a fujoshit, she said that yet she shclik at zaveid topless

fujoshi and their double standard, what do you expect from them?

Lucas Brown
Lucas Brown

Horrible thread, western women ruin everything.
Hey, you forgot your name this time.

Camden Flores
Camden Flores

Whatever helps you sleep at night my man. I enjoy shameless fanservice from time to time, but trash design is trash design.

Zachary Russell
Zachary Russell

The same guy who hated the ideas of marriage, and romantic love?
Citation needed

Never quote quote old philosophers especially on the subject of love, marriage, and friendship. It's just like why Freud is laughable today.
Yet you were never able to produce a shred of evidence to suggest anything sexual between the relationship of Montaigne and de la Boetie, or David and Jonathan, or Corelli and Fornari for that matter, while Montaigne has consistently provided reasonable arguments and explanations for all his views. Shouting "It's the CURRENT YEAR, of course all old unprogressive farts are repressed homos" does not advance your argument any further you know.

who come up with their bullshit philosophies because they don't want to admit that they're abnormal.
Nice projection.

Sebastian Long
Sebastian Long

Which is exactly why philosophers had to come up with bullshit like "romantic friendships." They were avoiding persecution.

That isn't necessary for the developed world today, so people can just admit they're gay.

Zachary Roberts
Zachary Roberts

It's overdone, hell even Tetsuya Nomura's desings shows more restraint than this.

Isaac Myers
Isaac Myers

think a design is poor
Inomata and fukaya says otherwise

Fukaya:“I promise. Velvet’s costume will surely be the same in the western version. The design of that costume is created by Mutsumi Inomata, and she created that costume based on the character’s concept and setting, and on the storyline. I believe that those who support the Tales Of series like to have exactly the same content as the Japanese version. We believe it’s ideal and the best option to bring exactly the same game experience and design to the western countries. I promise that Velvet is still Velvet in the western version.”

and just look at those sexy art, simply the best

Wyatt Watson
Wyatt Watson

You seriously think it's unreasonable that 16th century philosophers weren't avoiding persecution for being gay by coming up with concepts like "romantic friendships?"

Apply the same logic to a male-female relationship and what do you get? A normal sexual relationship.

Bentley Perry
Bentley Perry

After beating the game, I still wonder why he died.
I hope the anime will have a different storyline.

Owen Allen
Owen Allen

an artist believes his/her design is good
In other news, sky is blue.

Samuel Jones
Samuel Jones

Citation needed
http://www.britannica.com/biography/Michel-de-Montaigne
he was also a very devout Roman Catholic, with a questionable relationship with his own childhood friend. It's a well known fact that one should never take any sort of philosophies on relationships in general seriously, because 99% of the time the philosopher is projecting. In the 16th century a person would never ever openly admit to being homosexual especially a person who a devout Catholic.

You're also talking to two different user.

Jace Russell
Jace Russell

Anyone has ripped the Sprite out of Zestiria?

Ethan Ramirez
Ethan Ramirez

You seriously think it's unreasonable that 16th century philosophers weren't avoiding persecution for being gay by coming up with concepts like "romantic friendships?"
"romantic friendships?" an entirely modern term, I took it from a wikipedia entry. And I don't say that's unreasonable, just give me reasonable proof.

Apply the same logic to a male-female relationship and what do you get? A normal sexual relationship
Are you literally telling me the only way for two human being to have any sort of relationship or interaction is for it to be sexual in nature?

Noah Wilson
Noah Wilson

No one here is complaining about how much skin she's showing, though. The problem is that her outfit is a bunch of random belts and accessories over bits of torn fabric and that none of it goes together. Her design would actually be better if she was wearing less.

Easton Hughes
Easton Hughes

Did you even read the article you posted.
he was also a very devout Roman Catholic
Which automatically makes him a pedophile and notorious homosexual right? *tips fedora*
with a questionable relationship with his own childhood friend
Nowhere does the article say that. In fact he didn't meet Etienne de la Boetie until he was 24, and the guy was 5 years his senior.
because 99% of the time the philosopher is projecting
It seems like you're the only one who's desperately grasping for straws to support your own projections.

Henry Adams
Henry Adams

women will never understand bro relationships such as the one between Sorey and Mikleo
Sucks to be them, I guess.

Brody Wilson
Brody Wilson

That isn't necessary for the developed world
If you're gay, there's a high chance you will be treated as a freak and a creep, there's a reason why most of gay people are in depression/despair

Fear of isolation
Fear of ostracism, fear of being a social pariah
Fear of disapproval, fear of shunning, fear of assault or bullying
Fear of rejection by family or community, fear of homelessness

nowadays the rate of suicide among gay people is higher than ever, and the trend is going up, and in the rest of the world, being gay is a crime, and you can go to jail for that

http://rationalfaiths.com/the-lgbtq-mormon-crisis-responding-to-the-empirical-research-on-suicide/

Daniel Thompson
Daniel Thompson

see Furries think their rainbow rave fursonas are good designs too.

Hudson Long
Hudson Long

So by your logic the artist must be thinking with her dick, even though inomata was a woman, i never knew that she was actually a MtF transgender

Austin Barnes
Austin Barnes

see Which automatically makes him a pedophile and notorious homosexual right?
I did read the article, the association with Roman Chatholics and homosexual is a current thing. To the point that you sound stupid bringing it up as a rebuttal. Roman Catholics were famously associated with homophobia.

Nowhere does the article say that. In fact he didn't meet Etienne de la Boetie until he was 24, and the guy was 5 years his senior.
You never read the whole article then.

It seems like you're the only one who's desperately grasping for straws to support your own projections.
user, the fact that philosophers on a whole tend to project, is a well known thing to anyone with even a basic knowledge of psychology.

Anthony Taylor
Anthony Taylor

No, I'm saying that since it's Inomata's design, of course she'd think it was good. You on the other hand I'm saying are one of the 3 I listed. Not all of them yet it's entirely possible.

Do you understand?

Jason Wilson
Jason Wilson

less talking about romantic friendships, more pictures

Jackson Phillips
Jackson Phillips

Edna makes me rock hard.

Jose Smith
Jose Smith

Rose still a best.

Stay mad, Alishafags.

Luke Rivera
Luke Rivera

Fuck off back into hiding, Baba.

Christopher Butler
Christopher Butler

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Thomas Campbell
Thomas Campbell

Thread's ded but ok.

Grayson Cooper
Grayson Cooper

Alisha a shit and you can't do anything about it.

Praise Rose.

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