Was Code Geass good? I really don't want to rewatch 50 episodes, in my heart I...

Gavin Young
Gavin Young

Was Code Geass good? I really don't want to rewatch 50 episodes, in my heart I think it was good. But I'm 21 now and I was like 15 when I watched it. All of these years on Sup Forums have distorted my view of it.

Is Lelouch dead?

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Parker Allen
Parker Allen

Come on guys, I'm freaking out here.

Nolan Campbell
Nolan Campbell

I remember when a Code Geass thread was guaranteed replies.

Nathaniel Jenkins
Nathaniel Jenkins

Stop being so insecure, it was a good show with a mediocre to decent second half and great ending. Also why selfbump without images

Owen Miller
Owen Miller

After rewatching R1, I appreciated it even more than before

pacing
character introductions/molding/screentime
OST with what was happening
everything

Shit got shaky when Mao shows up but damn is it a great ride.

Brandon Russell
Brandon Russell

Rewatch them faggot.
You'll actually learn to appreciate the show now that you're older.

Matthew Nguyen
Matthew Nguyen

MOTHERFUCKING DEMOCRACY

Ian Phillips
Ian Phillips

Lulu isn't dead

CG was entertaining but not worth the rewatch
only good thing that comes from the show is pizza girl

Adam Ramirez
Adam Ramirez

CC is a cum constructor.

Jace Collins
Jace Collins

Everything except the Mao episodes are great. You can skip those.

Matthew Hernandez
Matthew Hernandez

It's generally good but it has some dumb moments in it. A solid 8/10 regardless.

Also CC is objectively the best girl.

Ryder Nelson
Ryder Nelson

As always I like clamp stories, but fuck, every fucking time they made a fucking plot twist right when everything seems to be going well.

Elijah Wright
Elijah Wright

dumb moments
Aren't they godly because of it?

Michael Mitchell
Michael Mitchell

Code Geass is not a CLAMP work

Connor Miller
Connor Miller

I unironically enjoyed almost all of the stupid shit Code Geass so shamelessly featured.

Isaiah Thomas
Isaiah Thomas

MORE CC

Daniel Morgan
Daniel Morgan

Just rewatched myself since 2009. It was better than I remembered.

Caleb Bennett
Caleb Bennett

code geass sucks ass. don't waste your time rewatching

Matthew Price
Matthew Price

your outnumbered

Samuel Moore
Samuel Moore

you are right, the art is done by clamp. My mistake.

Ian Parker
Ian Parker

code gayass for a reason

Luke Moore
Luke Moore

You should know better that there would be outright sister fucking if CLAMP did more than just the original designs

Jose Richardson
Jose Richardson

I was already over 20 when Code Geass aired, so I never thought the show was the best thing ever only to become an adult and reconsider. It's got good parts (most of S1, a minority of R2) and bad parts, but the experience is still enjoyable upon rewatching.

Connor Young
Connor Young

Seconding, also this

Adrian Fisher
Adrian Fisher

Also CC is objectively the best girl.
I object to that

Aaron Lewis
Aaron Lewis

GREEN

Joshua Jenkins
Joshua Jenkins

HAIR

Alexander Ortiz
Alexander Ortiz

It was an excellent show. Really the only bad parts were the painfully cringeworthy school scenes, but I still give it a 9/10 despite that.

Lelouche is alive.

Carter Bennett
Carter Bennett

Just watch it you dumbfuck. When did we become so normy as to not watch an anime because of supposed "bad" writing and pacing.

Luis Diaz
Luis Diaz

Kallen is cool, but Pizza Onna is superior.

David Young
David Young

She got a nice body but CCs hairstyle is vastly superior.

Justin Phillips
Justin Phillips

I can't decide which was dumber. This or the fact that EVERYONE just believed that.

Jayden Peterson
Jayden Peterson

Lelouch is dead.

Connor Hall
Connor Hall

It was probably the most ridiculous thing I've ever watched, which was both to its great benefit and detriment.

Justin Walker
Justin Walker

But Kallen's hair color is vastly superior

Red hair is better than green hair.

Justin Rogers
Justin Rogers

Red hair is overrated as fuck. Green is underrepresented.

Brody Taylor
Brody Taylor

i miss watching with Sup Forums

Jonathan Wright
Jonathan Wright

Because green hair is shit

Jonathan White
Jonathan White

I rewatched it recently, it's even better than I remembered. I noticed a couple new details, such as CC's flashbacks, Lelouch's constant hanging up on people, Tamaki's fuckup before the season starts, and all sorts of small shit.
Orange becomes even better in the first half of season 1 after you know what happens to him.

William Garcia
William Garcia

its wasn't worth re watching

mao was just even shittier the 2nd time
his fucking clapping
the increasingly mecha fights in season 2 get mundane
the ending lost any suspense
there's nothing to notice you didn't before

Jaxon Allen
Jaxon Allen

Style >>>>>>>>>>>>>> color

Julian Ross
Julian Ross

K

Jason Miller
Jason Miller

Was Code Geass good?
solid 9/10
Is Lelouch dead?
we don't really know

Gabriel Brown
Gabriel Brown

Reminder that Miraculous birthday is canon and that Lelouch is dead.

Thomas Long
Thomas Long

Yes but only the mecha battles.
no

Jaxon Reed
Jaxon Reed

Man, when you put it like that I can imagine it being a huge fucking controversy in the current political context.

Jackson Stewart
Jackson Stewart

Yes
No
All you need to know is that Kaguya was best girl

Colton Parker
Colton Parker

I love Kallen!

Ian Anderson
Ian Anderson

As much as I love my waifu, why does every geass thread shit post her?

Nicholas Johnson
Nicholas Johnson

Shit I started my yearly rewatch tonight

Adrian Bailey
Adrian Bailey

Is Lelouch dead?
He's not fucking dead, only retards think he dead.
AndCode Geass is flat out like a fucking mexican novella, to compare the suspense between each episode and the story as a whole, it kept you in a state of suspense which dropped a little during S2 but with lots of mecha action.

it's a show that was able to capture nearly every genre in a story, which in turn was what made it very popular and succesful, my opinion of it being a very great anime, an anime that i will forever remember because i would watch it on toonami every saturday.

Overall 9/10
+1 for C.C.

Michael James
Michael James

nah code gayass looked good back then because Sup Forums and /v/ were going crazy watching it air, same for haruhi

Matthew Hughes
Matthew Hughes

S1 is legit good

R2 is so bad it's amazing

Juan Anderson
Juan Anderson

denialfags still going strong
See and shut the fuck up forever.
I was already over 20 when Code Geass aired
I'm 30 and still browse Sup Forums
Jesus Christ kill yourself already beta grandpa.

Daniel Price
Daniel Price

Hey kid, wanna /cc/?

Cameron Young
Cameron Young

Show me proof that it is canon and I might believe you.

Noah Ortiz
Noah Ortiz

Shame there wasn't any.

Cameron Cook
Cameron Cook

You're the green sticker, aren't you?

Jose Turner
Jose Turner

Honestly I can't imagine someone not liking Code Geass. It's just pure fun.

Noah Phillips
Noah Phillips

that Rolo
What the fuck? Also no stickers for mah boy Gino, shit taste.

Benjamin Gonzalez
Benjamin Gonzalez

It's okay, but the experience of watching it together with Sup Forums was what really made it special.

tfw Geass Sundays will never return

Benjamin Hall
Benjamin Hall

Kallen ain't shit. A fun fact from the author; he modelled the Black Knight costumes after chess pieces.

Kallen is the knight (even Lulu said that), but CC is the Queen.

Matthew Barnes
Matthew Barnes

You uncreative fuckers with your transplanted Rei vs Asuka feud. Neither CC nor Kallen are the best girls on their show. Maybe one of them cracks the Top 5, but not both.

Ryan Ramirez
Ryan Ramirez

literally WHO? better than CC or Kallen.
bruh

Joshua Butler
Joshua Butler

milly ashford more like milly a shit

Nolan Morales
Nolan Morales

Don't worry, Gino can get some loving as well.

C.C. still best.

Easton Anderson
Easton Anderson

Am I the only girl around here who watched Code Geass with Sup Forums back when it aired?

Nathan Anderson
Nathan Anderson

Hottest girl right there.

Cooper Walker
Cooper Walker

I like that Leila, Akito, and Ashley have a decent amount on there.

Robert Roberts
Robert Roberts

yes it was good. yes, he's dead

Matthew Wilson
Matthew Wilson

pizza butt can be the queen of my breadstick any day.

Juan Wilson
Juan Wilson

How many of them did he fuck, Sup Forums?

Angel Young
Angel Young

Maybe his other sister

Liam Nelson
Liam Nelson

just euphie. he truly is a god, cuck'd suzaku and then killed his gf before he could stick it in.

Josiah Walker
Josiah Walker

None sadly.

Lucas Young
Lucas Young

alternate timeline where Euphie joined the Black Knights

FUUUUUUUCK I DIDN'T KNOW I WANTED THIS UNTIL NOW

Lincoln Martin
Lincoln Martin

It's happened 10 years ago, and you only realize it now?

Christopher Lopez
Christopher Lopez

No, thats not Euphie. Thats one of his other sisters, named Marrybell. One of the central characters from Oz the Reflection. Basically a female Lelouch.

Thats her as part of Lelouch's Empire, as the "Empress".

Aaron Martin
Aaron Martin

All of these years on Sup Forums have distorted my view of it.
If by this you mean the wannabe patricians in 3x3 threads made you think TTG, Lain, Kaiba, Aria, etc. are masterworks and nothing else compares, then no, Geass is not "good." Whatever value good has.

Austin Nelson
Austin Nelson

kallen is perfect
and yes, code geass still holds up

Sebastian Gonzalez
Sebastian Gonzalez

no stickers for best girl kaguya
I knew nips had shit taste but damn son

Christian Phillips
Christian Phillips

How about an alternate timeline where Rolo isn't a retard?

Nicholas Anderson
Nicholas Anderson

redhead deserved so much better. rip in pepperoni.

Evan Fisher
Evan Fisher

Would be if I could be.

Christian Bell
Christian Bell

Can I have Kallens body with CCs hairstyle and blonde hair, please?

Logan Lewis
Logan Lewis

Reminder that CC canonically has green pubes.

Jaxon Reyes
Jaxon Reyes

No.

Brayden Lewis
Brayden Lewis

canon
nunally is still blind
?

Eli Lee
Eli Lee

Please?

Sebastian Powell
Sebastian Powell

Was Code Geass good?
Code Geass is shit, SHIT!
Suzaku a shit.
Karin best girl after Lelouch.
Is Lelouch dead?
Lelouch is dead, and he didn't deserve that, even though I think the ending was good, and the build up to it was good too, It's just unfair and dumb.
He is supposed to be a genious, Why didn't he find a way to save himself?
inb4: He's alive!
No, he's dead.
Besides there was no guarantee that his dead might be useful he should have foreseen that, being the genious that he was. But well fuck the writers.

Christian Harris
Christian Harris

Ah, except she wasn't blind.
As part of the illusion caused by ghost Lelouch, she thought she was blind.

William Evans
William Evans

Red short a best.

Angel Rodriguez
Angel Rodriguez

Its exactly as I said.
As part of the illusion, Shirley, Rolo, and C.C were there too.

Ayden Baker
Ayden Baker

Muh nigga.
And remember suzaku a shit.

Luke Collins
Luke Collins

So Lelouch also has sharingan now?

Luis Foster
Luis Foster

It was ghost magic. Ghosts can do that in Code Geass.

Jonathan Powell
Jonathan Powell

Kallen will never be real.

Christian Phillips
Christian Phillips

He's not fucking dead
kids pls

Matthew Mitchell
Matthew Mitchell

Why is cc a boy?

Aaron Ortiz
Aaron Ortiz

Why live?

Zachary Scott
Zachary Scott

It's the closest we'll ever get?

Adam Rogers
Adam Rogers

I'm having a hard time finding non-lewd pics of her.

Kevin Rivera
Kevin Rivera

Why would you want that?

Matthew Clark
Matthew Clark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDXON8jAfcI
her personality is amazing

Parker Richardson
Parker Richardson

Bait絵文

Grayson Perez
Grayson Perez

They are extremely lewd.

Camden Foster
Camden Foster

That's just fine.

Yes.

Also yes.

Wyatt Hughes
Wyatt Hughes

The picture where Kallen is taken from behind and her breasts are pressed against the window is pure boner fuel.

Xavier Scott
Xavier Scott

I know right?

Oliver King
Oliver King

Any bunnysuit Kallen pictures?

Jason Scott
Jason Scott

By old Sup Forums standards it was good.
By new Sup Forums standards it was crap.

Liam Hall
Liam Hall

They can't be posted here. Believe me I know.

Julian Thompson
Julian Thompson

Old Sup Forums were a bunch of teenagers so it's understandable.

Nicholas Williams
Nicholas Williams

You will never feel this.

Charles Sanchez
Charles Sanchez

New Sup Forums is teenagers and normalfags though.

Bentley Lopez
Bentley Lopez

Code Geass was a very special series. It offered everything without fucking it up like Guilty Crown, VVV, or A/Z.

Kallen will forever be my waifu.

Jack Sanchez
Jack Sanchez

Well yes, but if you watch code geass now without Sup Forums, without the hype and more, the show drops it's quality.

Liam Baker
Liam Baker

Kallen - best fuck
Shirley - best wife
CC - best _____?

Justin Foster
Justin Foster

inb4 ass

Aaron Adams
Aaron Adams

CC a toilet.

Luke Rodriguez
Luke Rodriguez

Guys, I have a boner!

Luke Cox
Luke Cox

Better pic.

Camden Reed
Camden Reed

I was about to post that, muh dick!

Henry White
Henry White

Better pic

Evan Ortiz
Evan Ortiz

YES

Lincoln Bennett
Lincoln Bennett

Actually, I don't like her personality. Remember what she did to her own mother? And so much for her amazing character development, she repeated it to Lelouch, then lastly to C.C. She is pretty quick to judge people and take the punishing action on her misjudged prejudice. Then she justified herself with "I don't know it at that time!" Yeah girl, you could know it at that time if you spare sometime from my-drama to look around and put off your prejudice-google

Blake Ramirez
Blake Ramirez

witch

Bentley Powell
Bentley Powell

Well, because punishing yourself for your entire life seem like a good idea, besides her mother was hurting herself and her.
Who's your best girl in the series?

Adam Fisher
Adam Fisher

spinzaku has more stickers than C.C.

Logan Hernandez
Logan Hernandez

It's mostly fujoshi voting.

Parker Perry
Parker Perry

Was Code Geass good?
Yes. Underneath the incredibly fast-paced and exciting plot it's a fantastic commentary about the ethics of politics and war, which is explored through the clashing of ideals espoused by Lelouche and Suzaku respectively.

Landon Green
Landon Green

First season is legit 10/10
Second season is so bad it's amazing.

CC a qt. Karen a shit.
Lulu being alive makes more sense story wise and fits in the spirit of twists.
All those OVA were trash. Dropped so hard. Why does Sunrise hate their cash cow that much? We could've had Lulu R7 by now.

John Martinez
John Martinez

Suzaku and CC in second and third place.
Well no wonders that it's japan.

Henry Hernandez
Henry Hernandez

Jeremiah with the orange stickers, love it.

Robert Kelly
Robert Kelly

First season is legit 10/10
6/10 I would say
Second season is so bad
Yes it is.
CC a qt. Karen a shit.
Karen a qt CC a shit. There I fix it.
Lulu being alive makes more sense story wise and fits in the spirit of twists.
This strong Denial.
Your entire post is know in the trash

Owen Myers
Owen Myers

shit taste
As expected from Karen shitters.

Jason Sanchez
Jason Sanchez

All this advertisement.
Nice try Sunrise.

Luis Turner
Luis Turner

Low standars.
As expected from CCfags.

Isaiah Walker
Isaiah Walker

Shit I couldn't post the pic.

Anthony Howard
Anthony Howard

Second season is so bad it's amazing
The entire anime is so bad it's amazing, and that's what makes it so special.

Chase Wilson
Chase Wilson

The entire anime is so bad it's amazing, and that's what makes it so special
The anime is remember as good/special because the threads were fun. The anime is shit.

Jose Miller
Jose Miller

Was Code Geass good?
It certainly was memorable at least.
Is Lelouch dead?
He was reborn as a pretty lady in another world.

Jonathan Perez
Jonathan Perez

Suzaku was the second best written character after Lelouch.

Aaron Murphy
Aaron Murphy

Suzaku was the second best written character after Lelouch.
That doesn't make want to like him. The guy is unredemable faggot.

Kevin Williams
Kevin Williams

Is Lelouch dead?
Watch the last fucking scene. Of course not. He has both Code and Geass, the Code gives immortality.

Lucas Baker
Lucas Baker

accusing other people of low standards
liking kallen

Christopher Wright
Christopher Wright

So, you admit you have low standars?
The best character for me is Lelouch, Kallen second best. And the series are shit.

Eli Reyes
Eli Reyes

He is well written. I still hate him though.

Aaron Hall
Aaron Hall

Muh nigga, the guy is unbearable.

Joshua Flores
Joshua Flores

standars
kallenfags confirmed illiterates.

Cameron Gray
Cameron Gray

I'm going to fap to this thread when it's still alive in 5 hours.

Grayson Howard
Grayson Howard

Back off Satan.

Charles Allen
Charles Allen

And then he won the Lelouchbowl.

Hunter Gonzalez
Hunter Gonzalez

Betray his country.
Betray his family.
Betray his friends.
Betrays himself.
Helps the invader nation prety much like a jew helping the Nazis.
You need to achieve things without violence!!!
Becomes a soldier.
The most Hypocrite coward that ever existed.

Parker Brooks
Parker Brooks

I beginning to think our Kallen folders are identical.

Owen Murphy
Owen Murphy

So, you do have shit taste.

Jacob Smith
Jacob Smith

That picture was from the alternate universes calendar. The one where they said alternate shit happened, like Lelouch fucking his mom, Kallen becoming Knight of Zero, among other things.

Staff already said he died a virgin to represent the pure knighthood of Galahad against the impure survival of Lancelot, the disgraced knight.

Gavin Thompson
Gavin Thompson

Smug all you want I'm laughing here.

Justin Ross
Justin Ross

This is from the alternate universe where they had no family quarrel and Lelouch ended up marrying his imouto properly.

Owen Edwards
Owen Edwards

Are you legitimately retarded? You've been misspelling standards.

Adam Scott
Adam Scott

CG is forever my personal GOAT.
Even if it's not "objectively" good, it did absolutely everything right to be the most entertaining thing I've ever watched.
Forget all this "artistic value" bullcrap, it is just plain, simple fun.

Angel Ortiz
Angel Ortiz

You better make Satans wish come true.

Aaron Robinson
Aaron Robinson

It's good and has a decent dub. The ending is kinda derptarded, but fuck you, you're watching anime.

"To those of you who call yourself Japanese: Could you do me a favor and die please?"

Mason Nelson
Mason Nelson

I like typing Jibun Wo in all caps whenever the song is brought up in an Sup Forums setting.

Logan Thompson
Logan Thompson

Yes I know, and thank you for pointing that out, but it's not an argument as for why Kallenfags are illiterates, besides english is not my mother tongue.

Dylan Torres
Dylan Torres

YAMERO!!!

Owen Brooks
Owen Brooks

He just wanted to prevent needless death. To add, Lelouch and Nunnally were both hostages of Japan. That was the point of them being sent there. What the fuck did you think Suzaku's dad was going to do to them under a Britannian invasion? The guy didn't even care if Britannia wiped out every single Japanese so long as they die fighting.

But you should feel weird about the fact that in this universe, what happened to Germany was simply a regime change. Germany didn't actually lose. Suzaku also became the strongest protector of that Germany while Japan was ruled by Ougi.

Jaxson Bennett
Jaxson Bennett

No, punishing yourself for entire life is not good idea. You have to seek forgiveness from the people you wronged, take appropriate punishment, learn from your mistake, refrain yourself from the same mistake, then move on and balance the scale with good deed. Wallowing in self-punishment isn't health. Look what it did to Suzaku (and possibly C.C.).
I love C.C. but, I know she's not the best girl friend material. If I have to pick, personality-wise, I will say Euphymia.

Angel Hughes
Angel Hughes

Everytime I rewatch geass, I like it more.
Still, it's one of the few anime I'd erase from my memory only so that I could watch it for the first time again.

Austin Robinson
Austin Robinson

I believe there is a figure based on this and I need it.

Grayson Wood
Grayson Wood

I called you an illiterate because I haven't slept for three days and my vocabulary is breaking down

Adam Flores
Adam Flores

You didn't understand my sarcasm I agree with you. Except for the Euphymia thing.

Carson Evans
Carson Evans

It's not like I care for your health but go to sleep, BAKA!

Leo Cox
Leo Cox

cant finals my health is less important

Charles Garcia
Charles Garcia

He just wanted to prevent needless death.
I'm not saying he didn't have good intentions but he had no pragmatism which is more important than ideals, something that lelouch understood. He just created a bigger problem.
To add, Lelouch and Nunnally were both hostages of Japan.
He could have save them being a bit more pragmatic and less of a faggot.
The guy didn't even care if Britannia wiped out every single Japanese so long as they die fighting.
You really think they would have killed them all? at most Japan would end up divided in two: a japanese zone, and a britannian one. more poeple would have survived or maybe the same, but they would have an advantage, an advantage that would be non-existent if japan surrenders.

Austin Cook
Austin Cook

First season good to great.
Second season was terrible.

I was so out of it in the second half of season 2 that when something "shocking' happened I just rolled my eyes. Ending was good but the build up was badly executed.

Nicholas Roberts
Nicholas Roberts

Unlike most of the "clusterfuck" or so "bad it's good" shows, I feel like CG actually knew where it was going and how to ge there, and it shows.

Thomas James
Thomas James

I was so out of it in the second half of season 2 that when something "shocking' happened I just rolled my eyes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp-PHp_X10o

Robert Bailey
Robert Bailey

knew where it was going and how to ge there, and it shows.
Uhm, no.
The creators were having fun that's what you can tell, they were improvising the whole time.

Owen Hernandez
Owen Hernandez

I feel like CG actually knew where it was going and how to ge there
Aside from Lelouch's character, no.

Carter Green
Carter Green

Suzaku was pragmatic. His country was facing a nation that would have caused a complete wipeout of the Japanese nation had he not intervened.
If no one cooperated with the Britannians, genocide would occur year one like the British did with the Boers or the Americans did with the Filipinos during the turn of the 20th century. If anything, Suzaku was a real pragmatist. You don't like the guys you're dealing with, but you believe them to have overwhelming power.
He could have save them being a bit more pragmatic and less of a faggot.
Literally how else? If his father survived and was still in power, he would have command of every Japanese out there.
He was a kid. You might say be more pragmatic and less of a faggot. Killing his dad to never get down to Britannian hostages getting killed is pragmatic.
You really think they would have killed them all?
The start of the war, Britannia had an overwhelming victory. Only one small faction of Japan registered a victory, and even Toudou cannot win against Britannia without Lelouch and the Geass doing a lot of work.

When overwhelming military power with zero qualms about genocide exists, you cannot defeat them unless you prevent them from committing genocide.

The only way to do that is to stop them from completing the genocide, getting equal or almost-equal technology, and then pushing them out when the tables turn.

You cannot do that when your entire country is wiped out. They would not have survived against Britannia had they not surrendered. Surrender is what gave the Japanese resistance time to muster its forces for the inevitable showdown. Lelouch only sped the process up because of the Geass. Also, you cannot muster an army if your entire population are made up of corpses.

Christian Foster
Christian Foster

POST LEWD C2

Angel Campbell
Angel Campbell

Can I bang her as activist?

Daniel Sullivan
Daniel Sullivan

Is this a sex game?

Nicholas Sanchez
Nicholas Sanchez

Why didnt CC at least give Lelouch a pity fuck?
She already was a loose harlot anyway

The guy died a virgin

Tyler Hernandez
Tyler Hernandez

no

Ethan Davis
Ethan Davis

died

Sure user, sure

Jason Myers
Jason Myers

Why would you want to soil our pure Lelouche? Are you a whore too?

Jace Barnes
Jace Barnes

Reasons

Dylan Rivera
Dylan Rivera

There's actually a good amount of foreshadowing for future plot points, and most characters behave in a coherent way through the show.
Yea, I suppose they meant CG to run for a season and then had to fill some stuff in as it went, but as far as the main plot goes, it was very cohesive throughout.

That shows at least some level of planning, and shows that try so hard to "emulate" CG feeling just falls entirely flat there.

Michael Carter
Michael Carter

Lelouch the faggot probably didn't even ask for it. C.C. would've given it to him anytime.

Hunter Hall
Hunter Hall

Well you do have a point.
But why joining the army? Isn't that completely hypocrital, even though he was achieving things, he would have been killed just right at the beginning of the series if it wasn't for lelouch or better said plot conveniance, he's character is of a coward that just wants to die.

Sebastian Flores
Sebastian Flores

kill his father to stop war. Naive childish mistake, but big enough that he carried it around all along his life.
become Britannia soldier. Because forcing his goal as rebel is negated his previous action and the same as forcing stop war by killed his father
Know the pain of losing immediate family over war, his country fall apart in rumbled around him. It would be strange if he didn't want to suppress and minimize war casuality.
try to make peace and free Japan by the least bloodied path. Even if he know he will be hated and marked as traitor and coward by his own people.

I would not call him the most hypocrite coward that ever existed. He just tried his best in his capacity, even if it's stupid and pathetic. There's chance that his plan will work, if not for Zero's interference. In short, Lelouch and Suzaku were cuck-ing each other's plan.

Hunter Rodriguez
Hunter Rodriguez

But really, how the fuck does Rolo has this many stickers?
Even Nina is far better than that faggot.

Justin Ramirez
Justin Ramirez

cuck-ing each other's plan.
Epic meme

Joshua Lopez
Joshua Lopez

Suzaku did nothing wrong.

Eli Martin
Eli Martin

God it looks even worse than usual.

Isaiah Bennett
Isaiah Bennett

if not for Zero's interference
He would have died.

Caleb Walker
Caleb Walker

It's well writed but they were improvising, stop being so delusional.

Brody Hill
Brody Hill

Writed
I need to sleep.

Adrian Hall
Adrian Hall

Good writing alone doesn't carry plot threads coherently.

Benjamin Harris
Benjamin Harris

OK now you're just wasting my time.

Nolan Bennett
Nolan Bennett

Why? I mean no harm.

Carson Clark
Carson Clark

I've never said that, the series is a plot trainwreck, all I said is that the creators were improvising most of it, what's wrong with that?

James Phillips
James Phillips

Lulu being alive makes more sense story wise
I disagree, his final rendemption was to make the ultimate sacrifice to pay for his sins.
He going to live and tap that pizzabut alldayerryday while Suzaku has to live solely for the purpose of being Zero would go against the whole idea of that ending.

I believe that they left that ending open for the audience so that everyone could give it their own interpretation.
But seeing the whole theme behind Lelouch and Suzaku's actions, him living in the end doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense.

Gavin Reed
Gavin Reed

I need that Kallen figure.

Elijah Wilson
Elijah Wilson

Cute boobies

Justin Martinez
Justin Martinez

Well, as I said, they really did fill a lot of things in as it went, but for the main plot, they knew what they were doing and where they were going with it.

Juan Diaz
Juan Diaz

Maybe only for lelouch as other user said.

David Anderson
David Anderson

Fucking CLAMP, the guys look fucking gay, but the girls look so fucking delicious.

Xavier Lewis
Xavier Lewis

I'm smiling here.
Sorry I didn't fully comprehend your sarcasm, I felt it but give in my doubt.
About Euphymia thing, well, that why I said if I have to pick. As far as I concerned, I'm C.C.fag but I know she has big flaws as heroin (especially romance heroin). If they give C.C. half their mind of Kallen's character development, C.C. could be my best girl. She is female lead character, but she was often off screen. Even side character showed more often than her. (okay, I will stop here before rambling).

Carson Gutierrez
Carson Gutierrez

You ramble all you want it seem I'm alone here, I have to sleep any moment now anyway. A Kallenfag salutes you. Goodbye

Jackson Ross
Jackson Ross

Suzaku is the second best character in the series, he's that much of a broken hypocritical coward at the beginning, and manages to grow so far and beyond by the end, it's great.

Not to mention that he's the rival character done right.
CG would be objectively less without him.

Xavier Hall
Xavier Hall

They were improvising some 10 episodes in advance since the second season because lol Sunrise orders to change everything. But they still had a vision and tried to salvage as much as they could, and it shows.

Carter Robinson
Carter Robinson

You're right my hate for him is what kept me watching.

Michael Reed
Michael Reed

He could have save them being a bit more pragmatic and less of a faggot.
He was 10yo or something.
The fact that he was able to see that his father would lead Japan to complete destruction and the courage to actually take action on it already puts him well above any kid his age.
But yea, that broke him to the core for the rest of his life.

Jonathan Roberts
Jonathan Roberts

He really was broken to the core after the war, he couldn't help being as hypocrytical and self -destructive as it got from there on.
That's even a major plot point in his arc.

Bentley Myers
Bentley Myers

Well, he is the protagonist so the main plot does revolve around him to some degree.
But I also think that it applies to Suzaku and many characters revolving around them.

Ayden Flores
Ayden Flores

Lelouch should've impregnated CC before dying.
That would tie up all loose ends and even maybe give us a sequel at some point.

Christopher Moore
Christopher Moore

Code geass has the best official lewd art out there

Nathan Peterson
Nathan Peterson

This is my personal favourite series, I recently re-watched the whole series in the space of 3 days. In my eyes it is a masterpiece

Jayden Hill
Jayden Hill

CC would abort it

Logan Mitchell
Logan Mitchell

Nice fucking thumbnail, fag.

Webm fucking where

Luke Walker
Luke Walker

Certainly makes you believe L.L lives based on the show. Almost to the point that i think the author are throwing the ruse stating otherwise.

Anthony Mitchell
Anthony Mitchell

the irony here is, they interfere with each other plan and involuntary help each other. How Suzaku ruin Lelouch's plan and has been helped by Lelouch, I don't have to elaborate here. The series is written in Lelouch's pov, so it's pretty clear. From Suzaku's point of view, his goal is to be Knight of One, ask for Japan's freedom (or at least make Japan as semi-autonomy state before fully free). He has confidence in his physical capacity and talent as a knight. The other thing he need is for The Empire of Britannia believe and trust a honorary like him. He need Brit to believe that Japanesse were meek (even just for some periodes of time) while he tried to secure Knight of One position. What could ruin it better than Zero fanning Japanesse rebellion when they're nor fully prepared?
Also, he did consider if he died in his effort. But, he didn't give much thought about it. Before he met Euphy, he tend to be suicidal and thought that if he died before his plan succeed, it's a given and his punishment for killing his own father. After Euphy death, he kind of snapped because he know he can't wish for his own death anymore and sold out Lelouch to reach his goal.

Angel Robinson
Angel Robinson

It's the only thing I found about that scene, do the webm yourself faggot.

Jeremiah Martin
Jeremiah Martin

CC would be a great mother.

Ayden Walker
Ayden Walker

you will never know CC's real name

Landon Barnes
Landon Barnes

S1 was good, maybe a bit weird at times but it was consistent and entertaining through the entirety of it.

Now, S2 is a fucking joke resulting from Sunrise making Taniguchi throw away the entire script so that it'd pass for a larger audience in a different timeslot.

Elijah Mitchell
Elijah Mitchell

resulting from Sunrise making Taniguchi throw away the entire script
There was no fucking script to begin with because they only wrote enough for a 26 episode season.
Wow...you're pathetic

Henry Johnson
Henry Johnson

But why joining the army? Isn't that completely hypocrital,
No? He just wanted to die in battle knowing that something good came about his existence, he had a huge maytr complex which Euphie noticed and wanted to help him by giving him a goal to live for

Lincoln Thompson
Lincoln Thompson

Staff already said he died a virgin to represent the pure knighthood of Galahad against the impure survival of Lancelot, the disgraced knight.
That makes no sense since he's suppose to represent Gawain

Carson Gonzalez
Carson Gonzalez

Kallen second best.
Kallen amounts to nothing and her character is poorly written, only waifufags like her

Jaxson Murphy
Jaxson Murphy

That doesn't make want to like him.
Well that's really your problem. Hell its dumbasses like you wht characters like Tats and Kirito are popular

Justin Morales
Justin Morales

The leaks before R2 already showed there was stuff planned for the series beyond the first season. Many of them, like Suzaku having never actually killed his father and having fake memories instead, were really obvious to see in what became of it.

Jaxon Torres
Jaxon Torres

After the guns fell silent and the bombs had sll been dropped, Faisal wandered the newly empty Earth in his fruit car.

Ayden Watson
Ayden Watson

Keep posting Kallen. I'm missing the one in her bodysuit where she looks like she's about to orgasm without any nudity shown. I'm at work so I can't do that.

Connor Ward
Connor Ward

Of courshe.

Tyler Butler
Tyler Butler

Because Lelouch wouldn't fuck anything that's not his blind, crippled imouto.

Nathaniel Bennett
Nathaniel Bennett

It's as well written as your post.

David Hall
David Hall

leaks
They were ideas that were scrapped, there was actual no plans beyond Stage 26.

Anthony Butler
Anthony Butler

There's actually a good amount of foreshadowing for future plot points
That were dropped in R2
and most characters behave in a coherent way through the show.
Most of the characters will act erratic or stupid based on the plot, they were largely expendable which is why Lelouch and Suzaku were the only good characters in there.

Camden Robinson
Camden Robinson

Why are the girls in Oz so extremely homosexual?

Isaiah Thomas
Isaiah Thomas

Code Geass was a damn amazing ride. 10/10

Luis Anderson
Luis Anderson

R1 was popcorn fun.
R2 was good at the start and great at the end but the writer clearly had no idea how to get from the start to the end.
I find that the ending is a better version of V for Vendetta in every way.

Jaxon Gomez
Jaxon Gomez

Yet he still achieved his goal of becoming the best and reformed the system from within.

Luke Scott
Luke Scott

Canon green pubes.

Jason Fisher
Jason Fisher

These two look cute together

Levi Nguyen
Levi Nguyen

Code GeASS

Adrian Long
Adrian Long

Suzaku is easily pleasured by cylindrical objects that smell like fish.

Josiah Martinez
Josiah Martinez

Sexiest girl right here.

Isaiah Jones
Isaiah Jones

This thread need more lewd CC

Kayden Morgan
Kayden Morgan

No, CC stands for cute. CUTE.

Gavin Stewart
Gavin Stewart

Kallen had a character development?

Andrew Gutierrez
Andrew Gutierrez

Code Geass was pretty good. Not all the time and not in every single sense, but it was above average. Why do you ask, though? Just rewatch the damn thing and make up your mind.

Grayson King
Grayson King

sexualizing CC

Lucas Morgan
Lucas Morgan

At the very end.

Charles Morales
Charles Morales

Mao was quite amusing, so I don't agree with you. I noticed numerous things that anons usually don't mention, so that's that.

Owen Jones
Owen Jones

There are plenty of 30 year old anons on Sup Forums, man. That's not even news.

Julian Gomez
Julian Gomez

CC is meant to be taken in military outfits. Hard. And often.

Nicholas Long
Nicholas Long

I rewatch Code Geass every couple of years and still enjoy it.

Connor Gray
Connor Gray

First season is like 8/10. Not all that perfect.
Second season is like 6/10. It does get a lot crazier, but not only in "bad" ways like you're suggesting here. Especially since the ending is pretty good, period.

Lelouch being dead or alive will never be resolved until Sunrise decides to intervene.

The OVA was okay. Nothing special, nothing terrible. Just kind of generic.

Adam Jenkins
Adam Jenkins

Nah, there's plenty of anime that are much worse as well as much crazier. What makes it special is the fact the series does have plenty of good content too. Which folks like you will never understand.

Samuel Green
Samuel Green

Staff already said he died a virgin to represent the pure knighthood of Galahad against the impure survival of Lancelot, the disgraced knight

Source? Never heard such a thing before. Sounds like your interpretation.

That picture was from the alternate universes calendar.

Actually nope. It's not in that calendar.

Hudson Smith
Hudson Smith

It's senseless to make claim of "objectivity" when even your perception itself is subjective by definition. Not to mention the fact the anime was trying to be entertaining, so that's a clear goal.

Austin Price
Austin Price

That's a false dilemma. The staff had a lot of fun and a few changes were made, but they had an outline in place and the scripts were written months in advance of the end.

Aiden Miller
Aiden Miller

First two OVAs were ok, Michael Bay fights were entertaining, kind of. Then you had the third one with gypsies and cameo fanservice, so it was a half-OVA really. What did happen in 4 again? Afterwards the last one came out, nevermind, OVAs were a shit, I agree.

Jaxson Baker
Jaxson Baker

A couple of subplots were dropped, but R2 sill had its own foreshadowing and also picked up other ideas from the first season too.

Plot events triggered certain reactions in the characters, which can be unpopular or annoying, but that doesn't mean they weren't valid ones.

Samuel Martin
Samuel Martin

What's wrong with the gypsies? I think the OVA needed to take a break and not be so dark and serious all the time. The last one did overuse some supernatural stuff, but I wasn't bothered by it.

Austin Lewis
Austin Lewis

Kallen
She had some early on and towards the end.

Mason Parker
Mason Parker

Suzaku not killing his father was never leaked though. That sounds like fanon.

Brandon Rodriguez
Brandon Rodriguez

was underage until 2013
why you do this shit to me you fucks

David Jackson
David Jackson

Does anyone know were to find the rest of the illustrations of Code Black 1st Encore for this?

Luke Long
Luke Long

Have you seen the girls? They'd be gay if they didn't want to fuck each other.

Asher Sanchez
Asher Sanchez

...well, Marrybell at least is bisexual.

Oldrin, well,...

Wyatt Russell
Wyatt Russell

We're not all ants here.

Xavier Garcia
Xavier Garcia

that one green for clovis
based

Orange stickers for Orange

Aiden Jenkins
Aiden Jenkins

That were dropped in R2
The whole reveal about Geass and Marianne were foreshadowed since very early.

Most of the characters will act erratic or stupid based on the plot, they were largely expendable which is why Lelouch and Suzaku were the only good characters in there.
Characters will act in a way that accordingly to their personalities and motivations (and do mind that their motivations change a lot during the show), which might not be doing the smart or logical move some (most) of times, but is definitely coherent.

Hunter Hill
Hunter Hill

I find it funny that R2 was mostly pretty below average right up until Lelouch started moving gears towards Tokyo for the nukezaku battle.
I guess that's the moment the direction stopped scrambling around for fillerish content and went to set up the big finale.
But the moment where it truly went up to a whole new level was after Rolo died (coincidence or not).
That rebuttal Lelouch gave to Charle's plan gives me the chills to this day and is the reason FukuJun is my favorite male VA (maybe toghether with Kamiya).
From there on, it was far better than anything R1 ever pulled off.

So, to me it R1 was truly more consistent throughout, while R2 was the wildest rollercoster, but in the end I love both the seasons equally.

Samuel Bennett
Samuel Bennett

That's why I used quotes on my "objective".
What I meant is that CG really has some gaping flaws, to the degree that some people just can't get into it.

Gavin Allen
Gavin Allen

Depends on what those people want in their entertainment. There's no "objective" balance.

Bentley Miller
Bentley Miller

Again, it's in quotes.
Don't read it as literally objective.

Evan Brown
Evan Brown

God, she looks good in everything.

Jaxon Harris
Jaxon Harris

clovis
green
Did I miss something?

Jayden Hughes
Jayden Hughes

post canon best girl

Landon Barnes
Landon Barnes

I wouldn't mind a threesome with CC and Kallen.

Brandon Edwards
Brandon Edwards

those vagina bones on C.C.
HNNGG

Oliver Russell
Oliver Russell

It was pretty good, but season 2 was awful.

Angel Edwards
Angel Edwards

Real Semen demon incoming

Michael Edwards
Michael Edwards

Kallen is perfection

Joshua Garcia
Joshua Garcia

literally btfo by the mc
Kallen IS THE QUEEN

Oliver Evans
Oliver Evans

If she was your true waifu you'd spend hours of learning how to draw her and only her.

Owen Howard
Owen Howard

Who's the tits monster?

Jordan Hughes
Jordan Hughes

Beyond perfection.

Juan Cook
Juan Cook

Cornelia, obviously.

Dylan Stewart
Dylan Stewart

Actually it's the opposite had it not been for Zero then Suzaku would have remained a nameless soldier.

Camden Turner
Camden Turner

my brothers of fine taste

also

CG thread??

posting best girl

Jacob Scott
Jacob Scott

CG thread?
What did you think this was?

Ethan Scott
Ethan Scott

No even if the story did follow Suzaku's perspective you'd just end up with the realization that his plans while reasonable on paper just aren't realistic. Suzaku is also not very good at reading or understanding other people and perspectives, which is why he always ends up as a pawn for another much smarter characters. Suzaku's goal is ultimately one that he can never achieve on his own.

Henry White
Henry White

Perhaps Suzaku's most annoying aspect is that he ALWAYS claims the moral high ground. He refuses to acknowledge that he is getting his hands dirty, and is not necessarily doing the right thing. Lulu acknowledges that evil is necessary to bring about the change he seeks, Suzaku refuses to see that until like 5 episodes before the anime ends.

Brayden Brooks
Brayden Brooks

post more kallen

Luis Stewart
Luis Stewart

Best girls get framed artwork.

Andrew Diaz
Andrew Diaz

GREEN PUBES CONFIRMED CANON!!!

Elijah Ward
Elijah Ward

She really wants it.

Dominic Young
Dominic Young

captcha: select all images with grass.

This is some canon I can get behind.

Tyler Brooks
Tyler Brooks

post more Kallen

Caleb Barnes
Caleb Barnes

JUST

Jaxon Turner
Jaxon Turner

webm when

Michael Rogers
Michael Rogers

I rewatched it at least 5 times over the years. It gets better every time as you learn to appreciate somethings you may have missed. After the third rewatch, it's just a great series. Still one of the best anime out there and it's extremely unique.

Robert Harris
Robert Harris

If you didn't watch it with Sup Forums when it was airing you'll never truly understand its glory

Nathan Ward
Nathan Ward

Was Code Geass good?
yes

Logan Bell
Logan Bell

GREEN PUBES
R
E
E
N

William Cooper
William Cooper

I'm afraid to rewatch, but it was the dankest shit ever

Michael Cox
Michael Cox

She's so underrated.

Ryan Sullivan
Ryan Sullivan

Have you not even finished R1?

Carter Nelson
Carter Nelson

I had to drop it around episode 40 because of life reasons that preventing me from watching anime for a while, but I kind of felt like it was going downhill so I never picked it back up.

Tyler Garcia
Tyler Garcia

S1 is fine. S2 is terrible but incredibly entertaining. The entire series is overflowing with ham, but that's what gives it it's charm, in my opinion.

Tyler Jackson
Tyler Jackson

Actually Suzaku's physical ability as a mech pilot could've gotten him pretty far.
He was at the level of any Knight of Rounds and if he could defeat the eleven prejudice, it would only be a matter of time before he bacame one (of course, if his self destructive compulsion didn't kill him first).
It's very understated, but at the beginning of R2 you start to understand what was his plan all along and that he wasn't as naive as people thought.

I think that was really the point, alone they had a chance of freeing Japan (tips bend more towards Lelouche of course, because of his geass), but toghether they achieved motherfucking world peace.

Carter Taylor
Carter Taylor

Oh man, the last third of the second season is the absolute best CG could ever be.

Alexander Jackson
Alexander Jackson

But if not for Creayus, you might be less aware of that indisputable fact.

Thanks, Creayus.

Angel Harris
Angel Harris

SAO is shit.
I still don't like suzaku, what's wrong with that? It's my opinion he, redeems himself at the end but I can´t forgive him after being a complete fagot.

Hunter Price
Hunter Price

Kallen had a character development?
Kallen amounts to nothing and her character is poorly written, only waifufags like her
She's well written and she has nice, constant, development.

Parker Nguyen
Parker Nguyen

A kallen thread.

Isaiah Sanders
Isaiah Sanders

The whole reveal about Geass and Marianne were foreshadowed since very early.
No it wasn't. Hell we barely even know shit about Geass and R2 didn't really lay down anything we didn't already know. Marianne being what she was was also not hinted and the fact that it all came about in one episode doesn't help your case.

Characters will act in a way that accordingly to their personalities and motivations
No. It makes no fucking sense that the BK would trust Schinezel under any circumstance, Charles actions make no fucking sense given all the crap he spouted in S1 is contradictory to what transpired, it makes no fucking sense for Nunnally to think that she was accomplishing anything by laying waste to cities, etc. There was nothing coherent about the characters action because they behaved based on what the plot needed them to act at certain intervals which is why everyone just got stupid in the last arc. Code Geass had tremendously bad character writing and by the end of the show nobody save the two leads came out on top.

Asher Perez
Asher Perez

No even if the story did follow Suzaku's perspective you'd just end up with the realization that his plans while reasonable on paper just aren't realistic.
People say this despite the fact that he did achieve his goal in R1 when he changed the system by being the first Eleven Knighted by essentially making friends with the Princess and the Earl because they liked him which Lelouch had nothing to do with just how Lelouch was able to rally a group of followers based on his charisma alone. Both got what they wanted because they showed results despite their clear disadvantages and to say something isn't realistic in a show about people who uses magic from aliens is about the stupidiest fucking thing you can say about this sho.
I still don't like suzaku
And as he stated that's your problem.
It's my opinion he, redeems himself at the end
Redeem what? Just because he sides with Lelouch? That's why he calls you a fucking dumbass. You can hate a character all you want but don't be surprise if people call you out for hating him for an entirely stupid reason.
None of those are remotely true

David Powell
David Powell

C.C. talks to someone invisible throughout S1 of Geass and this continues into S2. She even says "Marianne" right at the end of that first season. Then in S2 Anya shows up and has her memory issues...as well as a blatant photo of young Lelouch. That's not a subtle hint. C.C. still names Marianne once again and then runs across Anya in battle, making some very suspicious comments. All of that happened way before the episode of R2 were the proper reveals took place.

As for the BKs, it was rushed but it's not hard to explain. Some of them were growing increasingly distrustful of Zero, after he had abandoned them and especially after how he mistreated a few others during the main part of R2. Schneizel had also threatened them with another nuke in order to force the meeting, had circumstantial evidence and half-truths that could be spun in a negative light, and Ohgi himself directly confirmed their fears (because of his bias, but they were more likely to trust him than Schneizel). Yet Lelouch, even at this late point, could have finally convinced them about the truth if he came clean and told them everything. But he didn't.

Charles actions make no fucking sense given all the crap he spouted in S1 is contradictory to what transpired
Charles was constantly lying, but he barely said anything about his plans in season one. The Emperor of Britannia is expected to push "might makes right" and Charles knew that with the Ragnarok Connection none of that would matter anymore.

makes no fucking sense for Nunnally to think that she was accomplishing anything by laying waste to cities

Nunnally herself never laid waste to any cities. The only times she had the nuke control switch were during the final battle with Emperor Lelouch and only his troops were affected, not civilians.

If you can't even understand that, then I guess even a show like Code Geass is too complicated for you.

Daniel Johnson
Daniel Johnson

Suzaku did not change the system. He started to have some influence, thanks to Euphemia, but that wasn't really going to modify Britannia's imperial policy. Just create a new glorified ghetto, employ a bunch of nicer words and allow the Japanese flag. It would be a puppet state while the rest of Area 11 remained the same as always.

Nicholas Jones
Nicholas Jones

C.C. keeping this thread alive.

Landon Carter
Landon Carter

Redeem what? Just because he sides with Lelouch? That's why he calls you a fucking dumbass. You can hate a character all you want but don't be surprise if people call you out for hating him for an entirely stupid reason.
Why am I dumbass for having an opinion? He's a good character and has nice treats I never said that you should take my opinion at face value because it's completely biased. But that doesn't mean I should like a character just because it's well written. You are being dumb here.

Parker Evans
Parker Evans

Geass was a tool and a curse. At no point did the show imply that we would learn everything about the origins of the same, nor was that ever Lelouch's objective.

Nolan Lopez
Nolan Lopez

C.C. talks to someone invisible throughout S1 of Geass and this continues into S2.
Yes we knew Marianne existed we didn't know what she was planning. Its not really foreshadowing when the show made it obvious she was talking to his mother and the issue was Anya is just a huge fucking asspull (why was Anya even at the palace in a secured location to begin with?) that its hardpressed to say that it was planned and more so that the circumstances make no fucking sense despite being obvious that she would just amount to being a plot device and not really be relevant beyond that.

Some of them were growing increasingly distrustful of Zero
Gonna stop you there. The problem is not with their distrust of Zero but their own stupidity in trusting the man on the opposing side when he just hands them random footage which none of them actually take into precaution that they might be doctored or that Schinezel is lying they just randomly trust the second of command in the Britannia Army, he just waltz in like nothing, show them a bunch of slides and their automatically convinced that Zero, their boss and the main reason why their pathetic excuse for a resistance even got as far as they did, is not to be trusted but the person on the opposing side is and this isn't bringing up the fact that what convince them is not Schinezel's slides but a lie from Villetta she told to Ougi so he not only committed treason in his organization betrayed the entire world army for pussy. And this is why that entire scene made no fucking sense and why Kaguya was pissed off that she left two chucklefucks in charge why she was gone instead of just waiting for her to return. The BK are the biggest idiots in the fucking show and that's saying something.

Gabriel Price
Gabriel Price

Not that guy, but there's a distinction between not liking Suzaku as a character and not liking him as a person.
I'd find hard to believe someone doesn't like him as a character, because he's but on a completely subjective and personal level is another matter.
Just to clear it a really good character (as said yourself),up.

Andrew Hall
Andrew Hall

The whole "accidental Geass on Euphemia" was when I felt like the show lost it. I finished the series but that was really fucking stupid.

Noah Edwards
Noah Edwards

He would never have fucking changed the system. Changing the system would have required Chuck's death and thereafter ensuring the installment of a ruler friendly to the idea of peace and autonomy for Elevens and so forth, which by implication would also mean killing everybody ahead of Euphemia in the line of succession. Cornelia even makes this point to Euphie in the aftermath of the knighting ceremony. Also, this

Joshua Bailey
Joshua Bailey

Sorry, you're right, english is not my mother tongue, and I still mix things up.
I don't like him as a person, in my subjective and personal level.
There I fix it.

Dominic Jackson
Dominic Jackson

The actual plan was from Charles and V.V. rather than Marianne per se, and there's various mentions about it during S2. Hell, R2 episode 15 came close to spelling it out. For that matter, Anya had existed for almost 20 episodes before the reveal and several of them included said hints. You can hate the idea behind her existence, but calling it an "asspull" is objectively false. Why do you need to know the reason Anya was in the palace? Spending any real time explaining such a minor detail wouldn't change a thing. I didn't like the Geass power involved, but I can see why it works that way.

When has the show not collectively portrayed the Black Knights as way dumber than Zero? That's a large part of their portrayal. Aside from Rakshata knowing about science and such, almost none of them were supposed to be very bright save maybe Xingke and Kaguya.

Again, Ohgi confirmed in it and took charge of the situation, despite Diethard's attempts to justify Zero's actions. That explains why they finally came over to his side. Schneizel's case against Zero was misleading and incomplete, but it still had enough underlying truth. If they checked the recording, they would confirm it's real. Just incomplete, but Lelouch did literally say such words to Suzaku. Once again, when confronted, Zero didn't say a single thing in his defense. He could have aborted the betrayal very easily.

William Sanders
William Sanders

The Emperor of Britannia is expected to push "might makes right" and Charles knew that with the Ragnarok Connection none of that would matter anymore.
Problem is that this is all compressed into one fucking episode of the show not established throughout the series that Charles intention was yet another warped version of Lelouch's. Up until Turn 21 the show played Charles up as a person who was once an idealistic youth who would use his power to better the world but eventually turned cold when he realize that great power brought corruption but no it turns out everything was just a ploy for the "greater good" and he was still trying to make the world a better place making everything he spouted in the first season all for naught thus making an intimidating and ruthless antagonist into a complete joke in one episode.
Nunnally herself never laid waste to any cities.
She did. She fired the first strike that killed the remaining Britannian retainers as a warning shot for Lelouch.

Adrian White
Adrian White

It's the show saying "yeah, we want to make fun of Euphemia and ruin her plan, but can't do so in a normal and predictable way". It's actually a cynical jab at a Lacus Clyne clone and her Kira Yamato.

Bentley Turner
Bentley Turner

Post lewd Code geass

Brandon Cook
Brandon Cook

It's great if you watch it more as a drama than anything else. The actual plot is a hand-waved fun trainwreck but the characterization is top-notch, they all have personalities and motivations and no one is "the good guy", no one is the authors mouthpiece forcefeeding the audience some watered down moral. Certainly better than most shows.

Jaxon Allen
Jaxon Allen

The problem is not with their distrust of Zero but their own stupidity
Gonna stop you there now.
You think people act according to logic and reason all the time?
You'd be surprised what psychological warfare can do.
They were confused and distrustfull with Zero and Schinezel played the psychology game perfectly (it's his most prominent character trait to do so, after all).
It's not hard to understand at all.

Joshua Morgan
Joshua Morgan

Geass was a tool and a curse.
Shit we learned in the first fucking season dumbass.
At no point did the show imply that we would learn everything about the origins of the same, nor was that ever Lelouch's objective.
So why the fuck would you say the show was foreshadowing Geass when it never did?
Suzaku did not change the system
He dumbass. He did. Becoming the first Japanese Knight was a televise event that the Britannians used to ease the attention off Zero because it meant he would not gain their favor and this was considered a huge blow to the BK to the point where Diethard suggested Kallen kill him, it proved that Britannia was susceptible to change and given how very little Charles cared (which we would later on be shown why) that it was possibillity. The shit you're talking about was Euphie's plan which i just pure speculation because we never actually fucking saw its plan come to fruition because Lelouch fucked it up, nothing in the show even implies that it was set to fail other than Cornelia's own racial tendencies and Lelouch not being happy with it because it meant his plan would turn to shit but even he was talked down by Euphie and would have went for it if he didn't fuck it u[.
You're a fucking idiot.

Carter Sullivan
Carter Sullivan

Charles was always kind of a joke, especially to the staff. From his character design to the way he spoke, they were perfectly aware that he could provide hilarity, even in S1.

Off the top of my head, I remember the following foreshadowing:

During their battle, V.V. tells Lelouch that he sort of liked him, because Lelouch reminded him of Charles. In a private talk, somewhere around that time, Charles tells Bismark that war is ultimately a foolish thing. He also gives a cryptic version of his instrumentality talk in R2 episode 15 that was already hinting at this objective. And, as we've seen throughout the whole series, Charles doesn't care much about the real world and spends a lot of time locked up at the Sword of Akasha, which even Schneizel criticizes two or three times. The whole "killing god" thing is also mentioned a certain number of times in R2, including the fact it's not supposed to be a literal god, etc.

Nunnally didn't nuke Pendragon. In fact, that's why she has to literally ask Schneizel to give her the switch after talking to Emperor Lelouch at the start of episode 23. The first strike was carried out by Schneizel, who lied to Nunnally but was still the one who pushed the button.

William Brooks
William Brooks

You're a fucking idiot.

The staff would say otherwise and I value their opinion more than yours.

Austin Walker
Austin Walker

What? The series wasn't remotely interested in addressing the origins of Geass but it did foreshadow other aspects. Just not that one. That's my point. If they suddenly told us that aliens from Jupiter originally created this power, that would be nice but without any real effect on the story.

Michael Edwards
Michael Edwards

You sound so mad over nothing.
I love it, keep it up.

Owen Ortiz
Owen Ortiz

Suzaku becoming a Knight was already technically possible due to his Honorary Britannian status. That wasn't a revolutionary move within the system though, but merely one that would be popular among other Honorary Britannians without altering the remaining structures of power. What was a huge blow to Zero was the SAZ, not Suzaku's promotions. Diethard simply wanted Kallen to get rid of an obvious obstacle in Zero's path. Zero himself criticizes the SAZ plan for not being a real solution and the fact it's a limited thing in scope was never in doubt. Lelouch wasn't convinced about the objective good of the plan. Euphy simply appealed to his sister and how they could all be together again if this worked out. The future of Japan itself and the BKs weren't addressed in this discussion.

Camden Young
Camden Young

You think people act according to logic and reason all the time?
You're done here. You're just pathetically excusing bad writing now.
The actual plan was from Charles and V.V. rather than Marianne per se, and there's various mentions about it during S2.
There's only two instances in which their plan is brought up and that is Turn 15 and Turn 21 (i.e.the same fucking episode their plan os revealed)
For that matter, Anya had existed for almost 20 episodes before the reveal and several of them included said hints.
And she's absent for more than half of them and she does nothing of relevance other than that scene with CC episodes prior and she does nothing after that either. It's a fucking asspull especially since we don't even know how Marianne's Geass even worked up until it fucking happens so how the hell you can say it was properly foreshadowed when its proven that it could have been anyone?

Why do you need to know the reason Anya was in the palace?

What a stupid ass question. Anya's significance is important because without that she's just a plot device, knowing how she even got into a private area proves that everyone in Britannia are just really fucking stupid.

When has the show not collectively portrayed the Black Knights as way dumber than Zero?
The whole BK is stupid meme happened after that incident, before they were just seen as worthless pawns for Zero and the only dumb one was Tamaki even then that scene is just a whole other level of retardation.
Aside from Rakshata knowing about science and such, almost none of them were supposed to be very bright save maybe Xingke and Kaguya.
The show says you're wrong btw.

Again, Ohgi confirmed in it and took charge of the situation
So he committed treason not based on actual evidence but secondhand info from his lover. He doesn't even say anything about Schinezel's evidence just that Zero is wrong because my girlfriend says he is.

Dylan Evans
Dylan Evans

Bu-but it was the best anime ever!

Aiden Flores
Aiden Flores

Actually, the SAZ plan was a first step. Just like Suzaku's promotions were the first step to the SAZ coming into fruition.

And Schneizel wanted it to succeed to completely undercut support from Zero. Lelouch knew this. That's why he wanted to stop it from happening. It was a complete checkmate.

Carson Collins
Carson Collins

She truly loves her waifu

Brody Green
Brody Green

CC has very green pubes and a really wet pussy

Brody Bailey
Brody Bailey

Charles says to Suzaku in Turn 2 or so that Akasha is a weapon for killing god.There's also when Bartley, Cornelia and V.V. have an impromptu exchange at the Geass cult site, which is when V.V. says it's not a traditional "god" as in an old man or an angel.

The exact number of episodes where she appeared doesn't change that her existence and the hints involved it were in place long before Marianne takes control over her body, which in and of itself was also two episodes before the full Ragnarok reveal. It's not something that comes out of thin air with absolutely no earlier warning. For that matter, Anya is the Russian diminutive of Anna, so the name itself is a slightly obscure reference to Marianne (as in Mary- Anne).There is foreshadowing. You can claim you wanted a lot more for whatever motive, but you can't argue there wasn't any at all. Thus it can't be an "asspull" by default.

It's enough to know Anya was in the palace to receive instruction, like Marianne says in the flashback. It doesn't make a damn difference if they had spend two minutes showing her enter the room and hide. Children sneaking into important places they shouldn't be is far from uncommon in both anime and fiction in general.

Jason Edwards
Jason Edwards

Why do you need to samefag your own post?

Nathan Bailey
Nathan Bailey

Can you even read the whole post?
Ougi had been making stupid decisions and doubting Zero from very early, it was absolutely obvious that he would fuck it up at some point.
And the fact that Schinezel was pulling the strings makes it all the more believable.

Jesus, I didn't think I'd ever say this, but CG is probably 2deep4u, user.
Don't blame the writing of the show on your inability to pick up on things.

Grayson Hall
Grayson Hall

You're not listening. The fact is that they should have NEVER gave Schneizel the time of day at all or believed his bullshit there is no compromising in this situation, what they did was dumb and even if what Schneizel was presenting was true they should have had the mental capacity to find the whole story instead they jumped the gun and got rid of the leader of the world army, they didn't even bother to detain him for questioning.

B-b-b-ut Lelouch

Is does not fucking matter, what they did was high treason based on little actual evidence even if Lelouch was playing the fool during the situation they handled it incredibly poorly and seemingly forgot their situation during the moment which is why Kaguya was pissed at that during the meeting because she knew they fucked up, they knew they fucked up and the World Army was fucked without him.
Charles was always kind of a joke, especially to the staff
Stop fucking lying. Seriously. The show never treated Charles as a joke considering he was the main antagonist throughout both seasons and was an opposing figure for everyone on screen, he was far from a joke up until they ruined him in Turn 21, now he's just as much of a joke as every character in this show. Way to destroy your villain.

stuff

Yeah none of that is hinting at anything especially all that shit doesn't even make sense in comparison to the instrumentality in Turn 21 hence why it felt so out of place. Biggest problem with Charles, and Scheizel as well, is that they're too much of an enigma throughout both seasons that they're given very little characterization as a result and after watching R2 the only conclusion I can give for both of them is that Charles was just talking on airs and Schneizel is a literal retard.

Nunnally didn't nuke Pendragon
Wrong again idiot.

Carson Murphy
Carson Murphy

Butthurt much?

Joshua Hill
Joshua Hill

6 minutes in paint

Bentley Reed
Bentley Reed

Yes so?

Nathan Martin
Nathan Martin

Oh please, you're silly. In practice, Ohgi is just a completely regular dude with the same virtues and vices as anyone else. He supported Zero early on and talked in his favor, but never had a good plan of his own. Tohdoh knows about military tactics but he was dumb enough to be captured by Britannia and never showed any useful skill outside of the battlefield. None of these are great displays of intelligence. Who else are you claiming is supposed to be smart?

Either way, Ohgi had seniority due to his high position, inherited from the role he played in the resistance cell, so when he finally did something worthwhile with it, even if he was speaking under the influence of a gf, that made a difference. Btw, there were also a bunch of files on suspicious incidents were Lelouch had used Geass and that supported both Schneizel's and Villetta's claims too.

Henry Wright
Henry Wright

Isn't it obvious from the way he posts?

Cooper Moore
Cooper Moore

You're implying that the BKs were ever portrayed as a perfect organization where everyone was a rational thinker even in the absence of Zero. And one more time, they did ask Zero to tell them his side of the story in that hangar. That's important because he dude refused to say anything to contradict their beliefs. What kind of leader does that? It would have been better to capture him first and all, sure, but the hangar scene served the same purpose. Even in a regular prison Zero would have still refused to talk and gotten himself rescued by Rolo all the same, thus confirming their stupidity as superficially justified.

Cooper Long
Cooper Long

Nothing at all.

Thomas Torres
Thomas Torres

Was Code Geass good?
No. I dropped it, then people kept saying it was good so I tried it again and dropped it again.

Literally dropped it twice it was so bad.

Ayden Murphy
Ayden Murphy

It sounds like you haven't noticed then. Do you think Charles has a remotely realistic and serious character design? A huge guy with giant curls in this hair that nobody else in the show uses? Even when even the director says he approved the CLAMP design because it was kind of funny? Or the fact that's supposed to be his natural hair and not a wig?

Are you saying that there isn't anything funny about the way Wakamoto voiced Charles with so much ham, when the staff and the voice actors make any number of jokes about it on the commentary tracks?

Charles was the antagonist, absolutely, but that doesn't mean he wasn't goofy at all. You would need to be both blind and deaf to say this, or at least pretend the staff were blind and deaf. Charles isn't a "serious villain" who you're supposed to respect and fear with a straight face the whole damn time.

Jacob Collins
Jacob Collins

But I'm seriously not him.

Xavier Wright
Xavier Wright

The staff would say otherwise
I'm pretty sure anyone who says "The staff said this" is lying out their ass.

The series wasn't remotely interested in addressing the origins of Geass but it did foreshadow other aspects.
No and No. You're not making any sense. So the series was not interested in the origins of Geass but foreshadowed them anyways?
Suzaku becoming a Knight was already technically possible due to his Honorary Britannian status.
Not really, if that was the case we would have had more Eleven Knights in the Britannia Army."Honorary Britannian" was just a lowly title which meant that you were an expendable shield lower than a grunt and that you would be lucky to make it pass your first sortie and due to the heads of the Royal House being racist bigots and didn't matter how hard you tried you wouldn't have gone beyond that.

That wasn't a revolutionary move within the system though

It was which is why they made a big deal out of it, it had never been fucking done before since nobody had tried but by showcasing that "hey if this Japanese blood can become a Knight and gain high status maybe I can too" and meant that Zero would lose his support.

What was a huge blow to Zero was the SAZ, not Suzaku's promotions. Diethard simply wanted Kallen to get rid of an obvious obstacle in Zero's path.
Do you just love spouting bullshit? It was a huge blow because it meant Zero would lose support and Diethard wanted to dispose of Suzaku because he saw it.

Zero himself criticizes the SAZ plan for not being a real solution and the fact it's a limited thing in scope was never in doubt
Which was his opinion, one that was shrouded in his own anger over it ruining his goal not one backed up by facts.

Lelouch wasn't convinced about the objective good of the plan. Euphy simply appealed to his sister and how they could all be together again if this worked out
No Euphie did convince him that it could work

Jonathan Perry
Jonathan Perry

You are so right!
mfw

Adam Russell
Adam Russell

Yeah none of that is hinting at anything especially all that shit doesn't even make sense in comparison to the instrumentality in Turn 21 hence why it felt so out of place

Wrong. It all adds up to what was finally explained as an instrumentality plan with a different set of symbols.

Nunnally didn't nuke Pendragon
Wrong again idiot.

Lelouch and Suzaku ask her if she knows what Schneizel has just done.

Do you really think Cornelia would be surprised at Nunnally's request for the switch if she had already used it before? Man, you really must remember nothing about that scene.

Quotes:

Suzaku: Nunnally... do you understand what Schneizel has done?

Nunnally: Yes. He attacked capital Pendragon with a F.L.E.I.J.A. warhead.

Suzaku: If you know about that, then why?

...

Nunnally: Schneizel, please. Will you let me have the F.L.E.I.J.A. firing switch to hold on to? I can't fight battles or defend my country or my people, so at the very least I want this sin to be on my shoulders.

Logan Jackson
Logan Jackson

Good for you, but Code Geass was good all the same.

Daniel Barnes
Daniel Barnes

No.

Ethan Allen
Ethan Allen

Nope. The interviews and commentaries are available online. Anyone who wants to know what the staff has said can look it all up. Just because it breaks your argument doesn't mean it's a lie.

Christopher Thompson
Christopher Thompson

I feel like I'm reading a youtube comment.

Jose Bell
Jose Bell

Are you unable to read? The series foreshadowed other aspects of Geass period, aspects that are not the origins.

Isaac Smith
Isaac Smith

I feel like I'm reading a 9gag comment.

Joshua Bell
Joshua Bell

"Good" and "memetastic" are two very different things, senpai.

Kayden White
Kayden White

Reminder that Lelouch is immortal

Christian Parker
Christian Parker

Charles says to Suzaku in Turn 2 or so that Akasha is a weapon for killing god.
Which is once again a cryptic statement which doesn't add much of anything, the fact that the cast don't take it in a literal sense means it was never meant to convey anything since the compounds of what he says and what transpired in Turn 21 don't add up, only in Turn 15 does his ramblings start taking form and even then Turn 21 feels like a complete asspull and something they never fucking planned.

The exact number of episodes where she appeared doesn't change that her existence and the hints involved it were in place long before Marianne takes control over her body
Probably is we don't fucking know that Marianne is in control of her body until an episode prior to her coming back so everything that transpires is really only hinting to her connection with Lelouch and CC which is once again barely relevant since she only ever interacts with them once apart until the reveal, its an asspull in the sense that it doesn't hint at anything involving Marianne hence why she's a plot device that can be in substitute to anyone. When your character's existence is only to do one thing that is bad writing.

stuff
All this is you talking out your ass. Jesus Christ you're actually gonna use speculation as worthless as "names". It was an asspull, the fact that you're a hard time defending it proves it was as such.

It's enough to know Anya was in the palace to receive instruction
Again, how? Why was she there? Where did she come from? She's a literal plot device and you're blindly defending it to save face.

it was absolutely obvious that he would fuck it up at some point.
And you've lost the argument. Anytime someone uses "i-i-i-it was obvious" as an excuse is proof enough. In practice, Ohgi is just a completely regular dude with the same virtues and vices as anyone else.
Yeah but he's not stupid and he's never really portrayed as dumb until that moment.

Carson Taylor
Carson Taylor

"Honorary Britannian" doesn't imply equal status, but it does allow more flexibility that wouldn't be given to an Eleven, including the ability to work outside of the ghettos.

At no point does anyone from Britannia say it's somehow illegal for there to be Honorary Britannians, not jut random Elevens, in the military or the knighthood. Yes, that means grunts will be used as cannon fodder, but they can still rise through the ranks if they survive and are good at it.

Newer works have also suggested Suzaku wasn't the only Japanese person in a similar position of non-grunt status within Britannia, btw, so the fact is Suzaku may just be the one who eventually reached the highest rank, because of his skill but also a lot of luck.

Jackson Bell
Jackson Bell

Doesn't Gawain represent pure knighthood?

My only knowledge of Gawain is from Gawain and the Green Knight where he refused to fuck the lord's wife due to chivalry and remaining chaste.

Did Shinkiro have any significance?

John Evans
John Evans

Suzaku did gain a lot of fans among those Elevens who served Britannia but not much suggested that he was eating into the same base as the Black Knights, especially when he openly stood for integration rather than resistance.

Lelouch did hope to bring Suzaku to his side, ever since the rescue in episode 4 and then with his further intention to make him Nunnally's knight (before he became Euphemia's) and then the whole debacle that led to the LIVE! Geass on the island, but Suzaku alone wasn't going to destroy the popularity of the Black Knights without Euphy's false peace proposal.

What non-personal concern of Lelouch's did Euphemia address during their talk?

Luke Garcia
Luke Garcia

It can be both. Just like Jojo is.

Alexander White
Alexander White

Todoh is also shown to have better common sense than most of the members there as well. Once again you don't have to be a fucking genius to see that believing your enemy when he doesn't have a shred of valid evidence to stand on is fucking stupid and any child can point this out.

Either way, Ohgi had seniority due to his high position, inherited from the role he played in the resistance cell, so when he finally did something worthwhile with it, even if he was speaking under the influence of a gf, that made a difference.
That...doesn't excuse anything. He doesn't even use his seniority as merit for anything just "Hey Zero is bad because my girlfriend says so"

Btw, there were also a bunch of files on suspicious incidents were Lelouch had used Geass and that supported both Schneizel's and Villetta's claims too.
Viletta outright lied and the problem steems from the fact that Schienzel;s files could have very well be doctored. We the audience knows that the evidence hold weight but the BK has no reason to trust him at all.

were ever portrayed as a perfect organization
I
NEVER
FUCKING
SAID
THAT
It does not take a genius intellect to use common sense. As much as you;re trying to imply that Schneizel was using mind games against them all he did was show up at the front of their door to showcase a bunch of documents and they weren't fully convinced until Oughi came with no evidence saying Zero can't be trusted because my girlfriend says so. Again, logic dictates that the BK should have never given him the time of day to begin with, logic dictates that its not a smart idea to commit treason while you're in the mist of a conflict, logic dictates that your detain person instead of shooting him to death especially when you don't have the full story but it seems that everyone in this show is just an idiot or they become idiots to make the leads look better in comparison.
B-b-b-ut Lelouch
Not gonna repeat myself.

Gavin Kelly
Gavin Kelly

Which is once again a cryptic statement which doesn't add much of anything,
Not in isolation, but it's one of several hints. You would need to look at the entire set, not just one or two by themselves, to get the point.

the fact that the cast don't take it in a literal sense means it was never meant to convey anything since the compounds of what he says and what transpired in Turn 21 don't add

It does, especially since the collective also known as "god" was ultimately the entity that responded to Lelouch's request and stopped Ragnarok, rather than letting Charles and Marianne win. Lelouch needed to appeal to the "godly" collective to prevent that outcome.

only in Turn 15 does his ramblings start taking form and even then Turn 21 feels like a complete asspull and something they never fucking planned.

I would grant you they might have not intended every single thing from Turn 21 back in S1, but by R2 they were already heading in that direction from the start of the season. I don't even like the Eva rip-off nature of the same, but I see no point in calling it an "asspull" other than as an insult with no descriptive meaning.

its an asspull in the sense that it doesn't hint at anything involving Marianne

But it does. In episode 14, after C.C. has met Anya in battle and reacted to her, she tells Marianne (who we already know is the person she is talking with) the following line:

"I'm just really worried that he's forgotten our contract. Anyway, what are you planning to do? How long are you going to stay inside of..."

In particular, that last line about Marianne being "inside" (something or someone) seems very blatant, given the truth is she was hiding inside Anya. Thus explaining why C.C. had reacted to her before. Plot device or not, that was being hinted at.

Of course, if you want to remain ignorant about something as easy to verify as the literal meaning of the name, feel free to do so. But that doesn't change the facts.

Brandon Barnes
Brandon Barnes

And anytime you insult someone and deny easily verifiable scenes from the show you've already lost the argument.

Daniel Sullivan
Daniel Sullivan

That is a very strong anus.

Brayden King
Brayden King

Even in a regular prison Zero would have still refused to talk and gotten himself rescued by Rolo all the same, thus confirming their stupidity as superficially justified.
Then just would just be an asspull than plot induced stupidity. Detaining him for further question would be a better idea than just killing him. The BK looks bad because they come off as stupid and ungrateful regardless if Lelouch was using them it also contradicts what Ougi said in Turn 5.
Wrong. It all adds up to what was finally explained as an instrumentality plan with a different set of symbols.
No it it doesn't. I's just a mess

Do you really think Cornelia would be surprised at Nunnally's request for the switch if she had already used it before?
Uh...she wasn't surprised at all.
breaks my argument that I'll say something with no evidence

Alright.

The series foreshadowed other aspects of Geass period
It didm't.
but it does allow more flexibility that wouldn't be given to an Eleven, including the ability to work outside of the ghettos.
It's just a fucking title, they don't treat you any different from a regular Eleven hence why it barely puts you above anyone.

At no point does anyone from Britannia say it's somehow illegal for there to be Honorary Britannians, not jut random Elevens, in the military or the knighthood.
Never said anything about it being illegal just that it was impossible given the opposition. Suzaku only became one because he was good friends with the fucking Princess and an Earl, no other Eleven could ho[e to reach the same status hence why it was a pipe dream for many until that day.

Newer works have also suggested Suzaku wasn't the only Japanese person in a similar position of non-grunt status within Britannia
He's the only Japanese Knight in Britannian, he is said to also be the first in show itself, not sure why you continue to lie out your ass.

Nolan Wilson
Nolan Wilson

The way Tohdoh got captured wasn't exactly common sense. He just didn't dismiss or antagonize Zero like the other JLF members had done. Not to mention that Tohdoh already had reason to distrust Zero by that point in the season, due to the last words of a close comrade who died during the FLEIJA incident and told him they couldn't trust Zero. The fact his own superior, Katase I believe, had also died under mysterious circumstances was included in the papers Schneizel gave them to look over. Again, not all of the evidence were lies, even if they were exaggerated or distorted in the process.

Even if there were also lies, Villetta had firsthand knowledge of Geass both as a victim and from her time as an intelligence operative in early R2. She also knew Zero's identity too. Ohgi trusting her, for personal reasons but trust nonetheless, provided additional back up to what Schneizel was saying.

Ethan Perez
Ethan Perez

So, Satan, did you fap to it?

I know, right?

John Hill
John Hill

Here's the key thing: I think the betrayal scene was rushed and abbreviated, without enough time to go over all the evidence in detail and extend that plot line even more, but it reflects an outcome that could have been foreseen by that point in the show, for numerous reasons and given past precedent. That doesn't make the BKs any less dumb, but unlike you, I think their behavior matches their inherent lack of intelligence and growing distrust in Zero.

Nicholas Campbell
Nicholas Campbell

Is episode 4 of akito the exiled ever going to get subbed?

Hunter Thompson
Hunter Thompson

Subs for episode 4 have been out for months

Christian Rivera
Christian Rivera

Ohga is continously on Zero's side and is the only sane man
A BRITTANIAN comes along and persuades Ohga
Not a single person goes 'Hey, why are we listening to this broad who never helped us and actually SHOT him?'

I mean, Lelouch was damned because of his refusal to trust more than three people, but come the fuck on. It's like they even ignored that one important japanese guy in the very beginning of the series saying he was definitely against Brittania.

Angel Morris
Angel Morris

LeLouch's face is QUALITY
C.C.'s ass if perfect.
I'm so happy they had their priorities in order.

Caleb Morales
Caleb Morales

Lots of things happened after Turn 5, but that episode also started to telegraph a few of the roots of the betrayal. Turn 5 had Ohgi and Tohdoh preventing a potential revolt among the ranks, but not really doing so convincingly. They literally shouted down what were valid concerns, because it was supposedly (but not really) necessary to defeat Britannia. At that point, Zero showed he wouldn't defend nor justify his decisions when it came to personal matters (why he left the battle to go rescue his sister). He didn't trust them and not all the Black Knights were convinced by that display.

So you at least admit Nunnally didn't use FLEIJA on Pendragon? The quote speaks for itself.

Tyler Phillips
Tyler Phillips

Take it as you must, but the closest thing you'll get to Geass Sundays these days is /got/ Sundays.

literally the only reason I got into this stupid show is the funposting, much like Code Geass on Sup Forums when I was 13

Kevin Long
Kevin Long

It did. For example, "the Power of the King will isolate you" was foreshadowed multiple times throughout Code Geass

Bentley Rodriguez
Bentley Rodriguez

He's the only Japanese Knight in Britannian, he is said to also be the first in show itself, not sure why you continue to lie out your ass.

Have you seen or read anything outside of the main TV series? Sounds like you haven't.

Jackson Russell
Jackson Russell

From the BKs point of view, they didn't all know she was the same person who shot him, plus that was only the final blow. It gave their own fears and distrust of Zero a push in the wrong direction, since Ohgi wasn't being "reasonable" about Zero anymore (mostly because of his dick, but he had shown disloyalty in that area since S1).

Parker Ramirez
Parker Ramirez

I will always be glad to have been well over that age by the time Code Geass came out

Liam Edwards
Liam Edwards

That still bothers me, because it apparently never occured to any of them it might be a Brittanian scheme for them to overthrow Zero.

Anthony Moore
Anthony Moore

It doesn't bother me as much, but I'll admit that if the show hadn't had the "soft reset" between seasons they might have spent more time on the discussion, maybe even split it into two episodes instead of one, to address such things.

Oliver Morgan
Oliver Morgan

Suzaku did gain a lot of fans among those Elevens who served Britannia but not much suggested that he was eating into the same base as the Black Knights, especially when he openly stood for integration rather than resistance.
Schienzel literally said that was the case and that was the main reason why Diethard wanted him gone. R1 made a habit of showcasing that not everyone in Japan were freedom fighters and were contempt with their lifestyles if it meant protection hence why they were easily swayed by whoever was the more opposing figure and who brought results. People rallied to the SAZ because they saw it was the first step in change but it never actually got a chance to be implemented.

They weren't really discussing anything about the SAZ

especially since the collective also known as "god" was ultimately the entity that responded to Lelouch's request and stopped Ragnarok

That wasn't "god" though in here in lies the problem what Charles was trying to accomplish does not mesh with what was shown on screen or what was said, it was a vague pretense under vague pretense and now apparently "god" is jupiter for some reason. It was a mess and the whole thing was an after thought that ultimately didn't make any sense.

but by R2 they were already heading in that direction from the start of the season
There was going to someplace but Turn 21 is definitely not what anyone was expecting

You're really grasping for straws with that line.

easily verifiable scenes
You're a really sore loser aren't you?
The BK had every right to distrust Zero but given the circumstances they couldn't have picked a worse time and motive to do so.
That was an obvious play on words not something foreshadowing/ That's like saying CC blatantly telling Lelouch his Geass would lose control and then it did as foreshadowing.

Gavin Ramirez
Gavin Ramirez

I dunno, being a former longtime underage b& is a magical experience. Though I'll never lose my desire for /ss/ because of it.

and when someone told you to lurk the fuck moar back then, you actually did

Levi Perry
Levi Perry

Have you seen or read anything outside of the main TV series? Sounds like you haven't.
Why would I? That is what THE TV SERIES says anything that came afterwards is a blatant retcon or not canon.

Mason Diaz
Mason Diaz

Suzaku could attract undecided or leaning pro-Britannian Elevens, but to claim he would immediately bring in die-hard supporters of the resistance over to his side sounds contradictory.

Isaiah Brown
Isaiah Brown

but to claim he would immediately bring in die-hard supporters of the resistance over to his side sounds contradictory.
There was no way that would happen because they hated him and what he stood for and already made their decision that Britannia had to be dealt with rather than comply with them

Sebastian Thomas
Sebastian Thomas

On the contrary, they even at was exactly the kind of "god" they were talking about.

They were not in the physical world anymore, but in the Sword of Akasha. That's why Marianne could show up in person, not through Anya.

Fucked up things happened, including changing the surrounding environment during the conversation, such as Charles making a bookshelft appear, etc.

Jupiter was a symbol, a visual representation of the collective. In other words, it was a symbol of "god" (which is even more obvious if you know anything about the meaning of the term since Jupiter was a mythological figure).

To quote:

"Charles: You're a fool, Lelouch! God cannot be defeated by the power of the king!

Lelouch: I don't intend to defeat God! This is a request! Yes. Now I know who I really am! God! Collective unconscious! Please, don't stop the march of time!"

And then Jupiter had the Geass sign activate on its surface, because the collective agreed to Lelouch's request.

Easton Cooper
Easton Cooper

People not expecting it is one thing, but the elements foreshadowing Ragnarok are right there throughout R2. Even R2 ep 15 did that and it was only the most obvious example.

Dylan Rogers
Dylan Rogers

Wow...none of that shit makes sense. Not even the Guy you're arguing to.

Jacob Thompson
Jacob Thompson

C.C.'s warning about Geass plus Mao's arc do count as foreshadowing for that.

Anthony Cox
Anthony Cox

But it is canon. Gundam Unicorn is a retcon and yet it is still UC canon.

Jackson Ortiz
Jackson Ortiz

but the elements foreshadowing Ragnarok are right there throughout R2
Pretty sure none of them implied that God would be the planet.
I don't think you understood half the shit you wrote.
Gundam Unicorn is a retcon
Found the retard

Aiden Phillips
Aiden Phillips

Gawain is not a pure knight. He fucked women.

Angel Jenkins
Angel Jenkins

Really now? Then please answer these three questions.

1. Was the Sword of Akasha a normal place, that followed the laws of physics without any supernatural phenomena?

2. Was the collective unconsciousness anything other than "god"?

3. What happened when Lelouch told "god" to stop Charles and Marianne?

Brandon Gomez
Brandon Gomez

but to claim he would immediately bring in die-hard supporters of the resistance over to his side sounds contradictory.
Didn't have to. That was what the SAZ was for.

Juan Reed
Juan Reed

when someone told you to lurk the fuck moar back then, you actually did
Yes, what a magical time it was. RIP, successful self-moderation on Sup Forums.

Julian James
Julian James

The Vist Foundation never existed prior to Unicorn, nor did Laplace's Box or anything related to it, and yet they were both retroactively introduced into the timeline.

Charles Scott
Charles Scott

That right there says they're not really confirming anything, hell you're not saying much of anything.
Nothing is really explained about the existence of the Sword of Akasha or how it works, hell it wasn't even explained how Lelouch and Suzaku got out of it

It's never explained. They keep bouncing off the idea but never actually confirms anything

Couldn't tell ya

Jordan Flores
Jordan Flores

Pretty sure none of them implied that God would be the planet.
I've been following this whole reply chain for shits and giggles, but I have to say, you're not very well read, are you?

Grayson Mitchell
Grayson Mitchell

A couple of spelling errors aside, there is nothing wrong with that.

Unless you didn't understand the episode itself and just went "Huh?" the whole way through.

Eli Wilson
Eli Wilson

I didn't ask you to explain the Sword of Akasha in detail. The fact that it isn't a normal place in the physical world is obvious to the naked eye. Very strange things happen there, in both R2 15 and 21. That's not a difficult thing to acknowledge.

Multiple characters literally say that the collective is "god" and they use the terms interchangeably during that same episode.

The surface of Jupiter lights up in response to Lelouch, thus Charles and Marianne start to disappear. That's suggesting very strongly that Jupiter = "god" whether figuratively or literally.

Kevin Cooper
Kevin Cooper

Jupiter has been known since very ancient times, so how did Jupiter get its name?

The Romans named the planet after their king of gods, Jupiter, who was also the god of the sky and of thunder.

Why choose to name the planet Jupiter? It was the largest object in the sky; therefore the most powerful; therefore Jupiter.

http://www.universetoday.com/14479/how-did-jupiter-get-its-name/

Ian Murphy
Ian Murphy

That's my point though.

Suzaku's previous efforts were a lot less important than the SAZ

Isaiah Richardson
Isaiah Richardson

You're grasping pretty hard for straws. So you're saying that every planet is a conscious of God now?
A couple of spelling errors aside, there is nothing wrong with that.
Outside the fact that it doesn't make a lick of sense, sure.
Yes the Sword of Akasha is a place and that's it. Much like Geass origin itself its not given much importance

Multiple characters
Only one character outright confirms it the rest are just going through the notion with a question mark not really knowing what the hell they're talking

So you don't even fucking know.

Oliver Morris
Oliver Morris

Jupiter is the only planet that regularly shows up in this series, way back to the first season, and it also represents the most powerful of all the gods in Roman mythology. It's not just a random god, it's the most important one.

Dominic Bailey
Dominic Bailey

Jupiter is the only planet that regularly shows up in this series, way back to the first season,
As faux symbolism the same as those girls that appear in Geass space. Doesn't convey much of anything
It's not just a random god, it's the most important one.
Wrong on both accounts dumbfuck

Carson Cook
Carson Cook

references to Iupiter as not just god, but THE god of gods absolutely saturated throughout Western thought and common knowledge more generally
Y-You're grasping at straws!

Yeah, okay. Continue on in your ignorance. I just wanted to add my two cents, and I have, so I'm content.

Hudson Turner
Hudson Turner

THE god of gods absolutely saturated throughout Western thought and common knowledge more generally
Not only did you fail English I but Mythology as well.

Nathan Walker
Nathan Walker

Only if the episode itself still makes no sense to you.

Everything in that post refers to the events of R2 ep 21 on the same terms as those employed by the series itself.

Point is, the Sword of Akasha is another plane, one where supernatural, mystical or magical things can and do happen.

Talking to "god" or even attempt to "kill" it was entirely possible there. It's a place for rituals and metaphysical events.

Do we need every single character to repeat the definition? None of the other characters question it. In the end, Charles, Marianne, C.C. and Lelouch all accept this. Why shouldn't you, as a viewer?

But I do. Lelouch asks "god" to do something and, surprise, "god" answers the request and solves the problem. How about that?

Jayden Hill
Jayden Hill

Long hair or short hair?

Matthew Sanders
Matthew Sanders

All that Jupiter needs to convey is the idea of "god" within the Code Geass universe.

That's not "deep" symbolism. It's a very blatant and logical one. The historical Romans wouldn't have found this concept to be even slightly odd nor unnatural.

Isaac Gomez
Isaac Gomez

Blantantly wrong
C-c-c-c-c-continue your I-i-i-i-i-ignorance

Only if the episode itself still makes no sense to you.
Because it doesn't, its blatantly rushed and there's a ton of details that's missing from it. All you've typed up to this point is fan fiction and doesn't confirm anything.

Everything in that post refers to the events of R2 ep 21 on the same terms as those employed by the series itself.

It's not.

Point is, the Sword of Akasha is another plane, one where supernatural, mystical or magical things can and do happen.

The only mythical thing that happen is inTurn 21

stuff

Yeah, you're pretty much talking out your ass now.

Noah Barnes
Noah Barnes

Nah, but you do.

Jupiter is the supreme god of the Roman pantheon, called dies pater, "shining father". He is a god of light and sky, and protector of the state and its laws. He is a son of Saturn and brother of Neptune and Juno (who is also his wife). The Romans worshipped him especially as Jupiter Optimus Maximus (all-good, all-powerful). This name refers not only to his rulership over the universe, but also to his function as the god of the state who distributes laws, controls the realm and makes his will known through oracles.

http://www.pantheon.org/articles/j/jupiter.html

Aaron Brown
Aaron Brown

Considering you fail to understand the concept of Jupiter equals God, ignorance is hardly something you are lacking here.

Nathaniel Wood
Nathaniel Wood

Turn 15 has Lelouch being transported to the Sword of Akasha by Charles, being shown a bunch of masks and gears that come out of thin air, seeing C.C.'s memories and somehow ending up inside the Shinkirou despite already being outside of the same.

William Morgan
William Morgan

That was C's World dumbass.

Benjamin Young
Benjamin Young

Simple description of Lelouch making a request and "god" responding, which was explicitly acknowledged by the characters as soon as it happened, somehow is talking out of my ass

You're a funny guy.

Daniel Long
Daniel Long

Jupiter equals God
Here's your source

Charles Mitchell
Charles Mitchell

The answer is Kallen.

Dominic Jenkins
Dominic Jenkins

Which Lelouch was only able to access from within the Sword of Akasha.

It's connected to the World of C, you fool.

Jack Miller
Jack Miller

Unless you slept during any Roman or Greek related classes back at your school, why not?

Eli Rodriguez
Eli Rodriguez

Couple of hours of trolling aside, I love you anons.

Jose Hughes
Jose Hughes

I love you too random user.

Dylan Lewis
Dylan Lewis

I love you too, user. This was a rather fun Geass thread. It's 3 AM here, though, so oyasuminasai.

James Thomas
James Thomas

I was thinking of re-watching it recently, thanks to this tread I definitely will.

Ryan James
Ryan James

The SAZ would not have happened if not for Suzaku climbing up the ranks.

Lincoln Fisher
Lincoln Fisher

C.C. a cute. CUTE

Ryder Gray
Ryder Gray

will never have C.C. by our sides. She belongs to another.

Leo Rivera
Leo Rivera

I guess we can ends this with a bit of Shirley

Zachary Lee
Zachary Lee

The one where they said alternate shit happened, like Lelouch fucking his mom
Wait what?

Cameron Morgan
Cameron Morgan

We can all agree that the nightmare sub plot was the worst thing about this show.

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