Why is Whitebeard so overrated? He literally got taken down by fodders and achieved absolutely nothing before he died. Even when he fought Akainu, the only thing he achieved was to give the Admiral some nosebleed, in exchange for half his fucking face. Granted an Admiral is comparable to strength to a Yonko, but despite of this I would have expected the World's strongest man to at least give Akainu a parting gift, (scar, lost limb etc.). From the looks of it, even Aokiji did far better than Whitebeard.
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He was old.
He still was a Yonko and known as the strongest man in the world.
Akainu was either unconcious or hid underground until Whitebeard was dead, think about that for a second
literally taken down by fodders
implying Blackbeard and his crew are fodder
And Akainu, and a sword in his heart.
Fodder are still deadly in One Piece. Bullets harm anyone but special Devil Fruit users, swords do too, and overall a ship needs a crew. This is why the Supreme King's Haki is deadly, fodder is too.
King's Haki is deadly
But it's *literally* not?
use king haki
entire enemy ship is paralyze/asleep with bubbles in their mouths
Top tier fodders actually. Just compare how much Luffy beat compared to the actual fodders army of ennies lobby.
Let's add WB couldn't unleash most of his quake powers or he would kill his crew.
Also, I remember that Oda said in an interview Akainu was supposed to die here but ended up sirviving for plot purposes. Might need to confirm that though.
Provide the source. Otherwise those words are as good as trash
That´s why I said it would need confirmation, light indeed be wrong.
Though anyway, most characters does have massive plot armor. Akainu survived because Oda needed him to.
He confirmed One Piece's existence for sure to the entire world pretty much.
Would have been pretty cool.
Or at least have him crippled beyond redemption.
Whitebeard still at least could have given him a scar or something like that. If Aokiji managed to fight Akainu 10 days straight and gravely injure him, there is no reason why Whitebeard couldn't have scared/permanently wounded Akainu at least a little bit.
Let's think about what he did before he died, just combat. He oneshotted a giant, got STABBED through the chest, and -still- managed to manhandle Akainu, whos power rivaled that of a normal Yonkou. All while being old as shit, enough that people noted the loss of his power
Only reason is Oda, he got quaked the fuck out, of course he should have had some scars.
literally got taken down by fodder
When did this happen? He didn't even fall after dying . And he was beat by a future yonko crew and an admiral.
think a already sick, wounded, old and dying man would give a admiral who is still healthy a parting gift.
That ass whooping was enough, plus didn't he break ribs?
He made Blackbeard reveal himself as a coward piece of shit too.
cannon balls hurt
he was old
he was sick
this isn't dbz
On the brink of death
Multiple fatal wounds
Old as hell
Takes out an admiral in two hits
Yeah pretty overrated desu
Oda wanted to show us the limits of what was considered to be the strongest in the OP universe at that time.
tfw we all used to make fun of 4Kids dub for giving Sanji a Brookyln accent
he ends up being a son in a mafia family years later
Am I the only one who's thought about that?
quaked the fuck out
That made me smile.
Let's not forget that Akainu fell through a fissure in the ground (don't remember if this was anime.original or not) and scaped, otherwise he would have been stomped to death.
people not liking Sanji
I really hope Jinbe shows up this arc. He's already confirmed as the tenth.
Is post-TS Kuzan on par with, weaker, or stronger than he was pre-TS?
Could he beat Sabo in a 1v1?
Most likely on par, potentially slightly weaker or stronger depending on how Oda spins the aftermath of his fight. I would bet on him staying the same though.
As of right now I like to believe he could beat Sabo, but endgame Sabo would almost certainly win, and personal bias aside Oda would probably have him beat Kuzan if it happened "now".
We seriously need a Chapter. Threads are slow and boring, there aren't even the usual shitposters.
who /monet/ here?
That's anime original, in the manga Akainu is blown back into HQ and buried under rubble.
I'd rather a dead thread then a thread with shitposters.
But yes, I am a Monetfag.
Not THE Monetfag however.
The only shitposters that really needs to fuck of are the shipperfags. The others are more or less comfy imo
When you put it like that I guess I can't actually think of any non shipperfag shitposters that I mind.
Can anyone else think of some?
Can Tech the two fruits because he is a descendent of a devil? I wonder if Oda is going to give luffy a second fruit later
still posting old pasta
still replying to old pasta
old man past his prime
stabbed through the chest
wrecked marineford and everyone on it
a normal Yonkou
What the fuck is this head canon. There are only 4 yonko; they are all unique and we know almost nothing about their individual power or whether or not Whitebeard's 'strongest man' was more of a formality in his old age.
Brooklyn accent and not a Italian accent
I still think 4kids ruined he anime before toei officially ruined it.
Who is the most overhyped character by fans in OP and why is it Garp the fist?
I mean yes he did have some amazing feats
fighting on par with the PK
being the marines hero (for unknown reasons)
destroying 8 mountains
destroy chinjo head
training 5 of the strongest characters by the end (ok helmeppo is left to be decided)
and the listen can go on I bet. So don't get me wrong what he has done he deserves the praise but Garpfags will swear up and down he's the strongest marine ever when that has never been stated. They will say that he's stronger then both Kong and sengoku just since oda hasn't hype them up as much.
the strongest man in the world
In his prime and a few decades after Roger died, but not the old version that couldn't dodge Squardo's attack or defend from Akainu because of heart failure. I'm sure Shanks and Kaido could beat old WB, but because they never fought he got to keep the title even in dying breath.
Just like Shanks is not necessarily an inferior swordsman to Mihawk, Blackbeard just has to kill Shanks so Zoro never has to fight him.
Who is the most underhyped character by fans in OP and why is it Wapol?
He did have some amazing feats
and the listen can go on I bet.
My bad I meant list. And no he isn't underrated he has always sucked. Most under rated would helmeppo
Wow what a faggot
What a garpfag
blades don't kill people
What the shit is this logic?
muh won't hit a woman
Ignore the faggots, Sanji is boss.
being able to knock out armies
muh i'm gonna keep jobbing post-TS
Sanji is a shitter
Sabo is admiral level
You need fist of love.
help-me-poo didn't eat himself
No I don't he can keep them
I'm glad he didn't , that would make him shit.
but he would be gone he would not be shit
Sanji is the Yamcha of OP. A jabroni of the highest order
Sabo needs time to master his devil fruit. Ace could probably beat Kuzan tho
I think it would be poetic if Sabo took down Akainu.
How suicidal will SANAfags be when this happen?
Struggle struggle struggle. Luffy struggle with trash mobs. Zoro cant cut invisble strings.. Dropping this.
strong as fuck haki
He kinda is, but the lower ending maybe
Why is Whitebeard so overrated?
Now that's a way to start a shit thread.
72 years old and marineford was before Oda came up with shit like augmentation haki etc, lots of the commanders were underpowered because of that too.
That's why faggot
What i found more impressive than Whitebeards performance was Akainu only needing some minutes of rest after an earthquake to the ribs and one to the face.
Haki did exist back then. How else was Whitebeard able to hit Akainu and do him harm?
This guy gets it.
Haki has existed since Whitebeard's clash with shanks, it's when most of the established facts of it began to be introduced, shortly was Shabondy with Rayleigh doing his shit and after that Amazon lily.
Hardening only cam after the timeskip because Oda realised an invisible doesn't explain show or explain battle difference in comparison to what happened before, otherwise it'd littlerally just be the same fights however now people can hit logia when they couldn't before.
the black colour change is just for visual clarity.
Last thread said that he's got a new job and can't post as much anymore due to a night schedule.
Isn't that something? Years of shitposting, thread bitching, complaining to mods, arguments and fights, and the one thing that actually stopped him in the end was IRL bullshit.
Marinford would have become niggerswar if this had been a thing before
This is exactly why I hate him.
The nosebleed thing has resolved itself.
Could it be the woman thing does too?
Maybe he'll acknowledge female pirates as true adversaries for Luffy's sake.
Hhaven't seen him kick a bitch yet.
You mean he'd only fight women who are at around the Monster Trio's level? That could be cool but there would only be like 3 fights in the whole series. The majority would still be dudes.
He was at the very least Sengoku's equal despite not having a DF. Kong is almost a totally unknown factor. I think that at least Aokiji, Akainu, and Kizaru could all individually give Garp a run for his money, especially since he's getting up there in age now.
I just want a few chapters of young Garp and Sengoku adventures. Tsuru can come too.
I can only imagine the trail of slain bitches Garp left up and down the Grand Line during his first tour of duty against Roger.
None. Tsuru would beat his ass for trying.
Then pat his head
Nah she'd have been too shy to admit she wanted Garp to herself.
Seems she was hot-shit in her day though.
Even Doffy was afraid of her.
Nigga, get the fuck outta here. Tsuru is alpha as fuck. She would have grabbed Garp's dick any minute of the day.
Roger, Whitebeard and prime Garp were like the strongest guys ever. Sengoku and Rayleigh were still yonko level but abit weaker than them because they didn't have the will of D so they wouldn't go that apeshit crazy like Roger or Garp. WB didn't have the will either but the destructive ability of his fruit is still fucking deadly in 1v1 without allies to damage. Tsuru was admiral elvel at the very least because Doffy was scared of her.
You don't hate Monet.
You hate the shitposters.
If she was that strong, why didn't she become an Admiral herself? I mean she doesn't seem like the type who would reject promotions. Also her devil fruit sucks ass.
I hate her for attacking and mutilating that marine.
you don't hate carrot you hate shitposters.
that marine doesn't hate her for it though
Quick reminder this is canon
I hate her for being loud and obnoxious.
He probably got retired with a pension, but if I were him i'd rather keep my right arm.
I do not like Carrot much so far. Pedro, Pekoms, Wanda, Neko and Inu are all better minks.
I want Monet to attack and mutilate my dick.
this should be a bannable offense
If you want to intimidate pirates, who would you choose? An old woman or a young man with logia powers?
Too late, she's dead
Exactly, she's annoying. Hopefully Sanji will eat her. If she joins I will be angry.
Not inside my heart. And dick.
Why is this turning into a furry thread?
Basically it's like Hancock though. Monetposters forgive all her sins because she's beautiful.
Oda's going through a furry phase.
Nobdoy cares about your feelings
You replied so you do. Fight me IRL, we'll meet at Glasgow International airport.
this isn't furry user, there are not multicolored dicks, farts, inflation or gay shit that belongs to furries, imagine carrot as puffy girl.
You want to fuck a rabbit, that's pretty furry bro
Never forget based Jack, he tried to save us from the furries.
Also her devil fruit sucks ass.
Her Devil Fruit incapacitates the enemy completely. Basically land it once and they're done.
Also she can literally wash off evil from pirates.
If anything it's one of the most underrated fruits in the series.
I'd rather he saved us from faggots posting horrible coloring jobs
You take away the whole honor about women thing and hes just zoro, you cant do that. Although i could see him protecting a woman from another woman maybe at some point
Urouge is sitting on his ass.
Bonney is a hobo.
When will Oda give them something to do in the plot?
All the other supernovas seem pretty busy right now.
Implying the colouring job isn't worthy of the Jobmeister
Shut up Anne.
no it doesn't.
Urogue will become relevant when
Enel comes back
Bonney has already been proven to be more important to the story than almost every other supernova besides Law and Luffy.
Grap is without a doubt stronger than Sengoku. Granted, it might be marginal, like a Luffy to Zoro comparison but its still there, whether its actual physical strength or "The will of the D".
who will be the boss? Enel or Urogue?
Cuck the Kid
Enel, and Urouge will be his chief priest.
Enel comes back
Sure he's a big deal but the NW could be a rude awakening for him.
Yonkou isn't a power level, goddamn user.
Hes got that #moontech
He'd be fine, he has high level observation haki already and is way way above the 'power level' of any of Doflamingo's subordinates.
The Will of D is not a power boost.
Yeah but he needs Amor Haki or it's fucked.
He can fly which would keep him out of most danger, but learning armament haki wouldn't be too hard. Even random kuja villagers have it.
Enel can destroy countries, and that's even when he's warring with a guy made of rubber.
Will of D
But the people who have it got higher willpower. they are willing to go further to win than other people. Like Luffy vs Crocodile.
Enel got smacked around because he never had to defend himself really. Even then, he still gave Luffy a run for his money.
Offensively Enel is a goddamn powerhouse. If he trains up and learns armor haki, he'll be a beast.
That was with the ship's help, though. Really, armament haki is a problem for Enel, but Rokushiki is a way worse issue for him. He depended on being faster than Luffy at every turn when his logia immunity failed, and with things like Soru that's no longer a guarantee.
Offensively Enel is a goddamn powerhouse. If he trains up and learns armor haki, he'll be a beast.
I don't dispute that at all.
I'm saying before that happens somebody would kick his shit in.
He fought and lost to Luffy but he probably consdiers that an anomaly and never trained.
He spent the last two years sitting on this ass on the moon.
Actually, he doesn't even really have much motivation to come back at all.
But this as pre gears Luffy who was still fodder after that powerup pre-timeskip. He has a long way to go or he'll end up another smoker
that would be pretty cool if he fought moon king, and got beat the fuck out, then he trained to become stronger.
stop using this word so wrong
Wow you should write one piece
Nah litterally was fodder in the wrong. He was weak and generally divided attention from the more powerful players in the war. He wouldn't have gotten half as far as he did without back up.
Yes, I am Oda.
No I am Spartacus...I mean Oda.
that is not what fodder is, just stop
Whats gonna happen next? Is it gonna be revealed that zoro also spent 2 years doing nothing?
Naturally he wouldn't have saved Ace without backup, however he was regularly assaulted by the Admirals & Mihawk. In all honesty, would you really expect a Paradise Rookie to defeat some of the strongest people alive?
Nigger, "fodder" are the countless marine soldiers who got knocked out by Luffys CoC for example or the ones who got fucked up by the dozens when Whitebeard swung his weapon.
Learn the fucking difference
Do YOU even know what fodder. Is It's short for cannon fodder, weaker infantry you send out to divert attention of the canons from your main more powerful forces.
Do you honestly think Luffy was was one of the main more powerful forces? The only reason he wasn't blown away in the wind is because WB commanders decided halfway through to protect him. WB even told him when they spoke not to get in the way.
you are fucking embarrassing, shut the fuck up already
so you have no retort and honestly have no idea about about you were originally spouting good to know.
Next time keep your mouth shut
actually thinking Luffy was fodder at Marineford
wew lad, sorry but you are a fucking idiot that deserves to get punched in the balls repeatedly with a brick as far as I am concerned
shut the fuck up user, you only make yourself more pitiful.
By the way which marine can beat the shit out enel?
I do not need to retord your fucking nonsense. Everyone can see and knows that you are wrong. Jesus Christ.
The Marineford 'human' Vice Admirals. Momonga, Dobberman, Onigumo, etc. And above, of course.
Still no retort. Why do you keep replying if you have nothing meanigful to say
u guize - look at teach! that's the weapon that scarred shanky.
whats up with marco - hadnt found his style/df yet?
Sure man sure, I can see your one of those people that fling around words without understanding the meaning. There's a lot of those around here
In my opinion, pre-skip Luffy was stronger than most of Whitebeards commanders (excluding Marco, Jozu, Ace and Vista). He one shotted a goddamn giant + defeated huge groups of Marine infantry.
He probably scarred Shanks during a Whitebeard-Red Hair battle.
And ya, I'd bet Marco hadn't found his fruit yet.
it baffles me that there really are people around here that are as retarded as you
Buy the fucking book.
Bit late with that find, user. But good job on noticing it.
And it was like 20 years ago so yea, Marco probably didn't have the fruit yet. It's kinda weird to imagine Marco being about 40 years old.
being this butthurt
Thing is he is completely worthless, and I mean worthless against logia (outside of specif fluckes), which isn't true for any WB pirate with CoA haki. Smoker alone almost captured him if not for Hancock and h was a marine captain.
Show tits you fat bitch
yea, but I never understood before how he would have done it - three stripes over the eye. was wondering if nails or whatever like an idiot haha
Nigga, what? That joke doesn't even make sense.
still does not make him fucking fodder you stupid fuck
says the retard who can't even come of with a different definition of t word that he supposedly understands. It's not hard. if you actually had the slightest inkling of what your were on about you would have a retort.
Calling someone someone stupid without an arguement is not a retort. It means your a child
you're right, I should have used Kid or something
haha heating up? not the guy you argue with, just wanted to point out that he would be easy to counter strategically if someone took the time to analyse him. Then he'd be a fish on land
Yea. Or Smoker. Or Tashigi.
I still don't get your thought process with Zoro. Out of ll the Strawhats he's the one that's been kicking ass the easiest.
Read the fucking thread, multiple people already pointed out what actual fodder is and why you are wrong
Thing is, most Whitebeard commanders didn't even have Haki. Even the commanders who could use Haki, couldn't do jackshit to the Admirals.
Will oda give us the semen demon?
well the fact that he hasnt been pushed yet and hasnt really shown off any new abilities apart from haki
this is not anatomically correct and looks goofy
If marine captain level opponents can take you out with no difficulty, in the War of the Best, then there's a small difference between fodder and not.
They obviously do. Just because you have haki doesn't mean that a logia can't separate before an attack acttually hits. Smoker was doing this a ton against Vergo who obviously did have haki.
go home, Akainu
Wouldn't that mean he's the one that did the most during 2 years since he's not even trying? Well, what's done is done. We'll just imagine Kidd's name.
Are you replying to the right person?
Smoker was doing this a ton against Vergo who obviously did have haki.
No he wasn't
Vergo literally said by becoming smoke it was making it easier for Vergo to hit him because he was covering a bigger area.
Adding to this Marco has show CoA prior to this and the other guy held up mihawk.
You're only saying that because Vista/Marco didn't insta kill Akainu here.
The commanders had reasonable performances against Kizaru/Aokiji.
And look at the times smoker dodged his hits. Not all of his hits actually hit, smoker dodge a fair few due to his speed with the smoke
he was sick as fuck and older than dirt. give him a break
Marco only staled Kizaru for a little bit, doing absolutely no damage whatsoever. The only thing Vista did was to put on a mockfight with an halfased Mihawk.
THE INVINCIBLE CAPTAIN JACK
you will never EVER lick Perona's sweaty dirty lolita feet after a hot summer day
Has a terminal illness was hooked up to IV machines and had nurses all around him
Stabbed in the chest
Shot and stabbed a million times
Took cannon balls to the face
Punched by akainu in the chest while he was having an asthma attack
Still managed to destroy him in two hits after getting his organs roasted and half his face blown off
Still managed to beat blackbeard
Lived long enough after getting raped by blackbeards whole crew to yell that one piece existed
Died standing up
He was pretty hardc0re mate
Even in death, he stuck a giant middle finger to the WG. What a guy.
gives me chills m8
For real though would you guys say Magellan is admiral level?
Doesn't have haki
Got effected by preskip gear second attack
I would say that Magellan probably is a little weaker than post-timeskip Luffy. He would probably give an Admiral a run for his money though.
Not really. He's got a great fruit but a single jet bazooka brought him to his knees. He's the perfect for his job, no more, no less.
Its pretty much a given right?
Is he gonna take sanjis place as 3rd stongest, because ill be mad if he does
SANJI is stronger than him
Sanji got oneshotted by Doflamingo, pretty sure Jinbe would have given him more of a challenge
DESU I don't think Luffy's gear 1-2-3 punching strength improved that much over the timeskip. Maybe by 20% or so. The pacifistas armour was just (I think) resistant to attacks up to a certain "level" of force. Pre-skip Luffy's attacks were below it and post-skip Luffy's attacks were above it.
Oy vey, this filter.
Anyway i'd agree that Magellan was just a bit weaker than post skip Luffy. Kinjite is like Magellan's "gear fourth".
Still, all Luffy got to do in order to bypass Kinjite, would be to tear a piece of wall and punch it in Magellan's direction with Kong/King Kong gun, in order to knock him out.
Magellan is on another level not because he is physically strong but simply because of how op his fruit is and how well he uses it, as soon as you start fighting him you're probably dead
I mean, he made 2 Shichibukai, Ivankov, Luffy and hundreds of prisoners including level 6 ones run from their lives because they knew it was pointless to fight him. Also one shot Blackbeard and his entire crew. I doubt post timeskip Luffy can compare to that
None of the aforementioned people had Haki and most of the prisoners were fodder. Also Ivankov managed to give Magellan a Bloody eye and survived his/her battle with Magellan.
Smoker the jobber is the most over hyped one piece character.
remember when smoker was gonna be Garp? I miss those days
The prison battlefield was a huge advantage though. Magellan's biggest problem is mobility, his Venom Road is handy but takes time to set up. Out in the open, characters can better avoid his attacks and his gases are less effective too.
Garp is stronger then sengoku
the will of D makes him stronger
Do either of you have proof of this? When was it ever stated that the will of D was a power boost that automatically made you stronger then everyone else? And talking about WB DF power making him equal as if sengoku ability isn't crazy strong. As I've said only Garpfags try to put him on a higher pedestal.
The only reason anyone survived a battle with Magellan was because Ivankov was there to counter his poison, you realize that?
None of the aforementioned people had Haki
Source? I'm pretty sure at least Jinbei knows haki
That's gonna depend on their ranged abilities then which Magellan also has
The problem is you can't touch him or even get near him or you're dead
none of the aforementioned people had haki
how about Jinbe, or, if you arent convinced by that, how about Blackbeard who doesn't even need aremnt haki because his bullshit fruit basically gives it to him
unless you have Ivankof or the antidote you're totally fucked
Or you cold simply replicate what Mr.3 did in Impel down and create some kind of buffer between your attack and Magellan's poison.
Blackbeard had his crew+ escaped Impel Down convicts + Shiryu. Also when he first met Magellan, he underestimated him severely
im fairly sure it eats through any material, apart from sea prism stone maybe
Whitebeard said before he died that he would not always be the strongest. It should be obvious that he wasn't the strongest in the world anymore when he arrived at Marineford, that it was an earned title, and that he knew he'd die from the very start of the battle.
Even weakened by aids and having a literal heart attack while in the middle of combat he still made akainu hide until he bled out.
It does eat away most Materials, however that process isn't instantaneous as it takes some time for a buffer to be eaten away.
It would have been funny if mrs. Bucking had given him HIV.
Ahahaha, she's like three feet tall, how'd he even bed her?
he pulls her onto his dick like she was a condom
Since he was the world strongest man, that'd completely destroy her.
If that scrub smoker can learn Haki in two years, so can Magellan. He should be admiral level by now.
With this logic then BB is the strongest yonko. Also Just because you have a strong will and willing to go farther for the win doesn't mean you will win. sometimes strength is just to much to overcome.
But ok here's the real argument. In OP power levels can't really be gauged as a lot of things play into effect. With the luffy and crocodile fight, Crocodile could have won by all means. What caused luffy to win was 1) crocodile underestimated him and overestimated himself 2) crocodile just like all villians didn't make sure to kill the hero 3) luffy is an extremely lucky person
If even one of these elements was missing then crocodile could have taken him out the first time around. So to say the will of D will make someone go farther doesn't mean he will win. And who is to say someone else's will isn't just as strong? Like WB isn't a D yet fights on par with two of them? So in terms of just raw fighting skills and power I don't think sengoku or Kong loses to any of them.
This. Carrot is pretty much a normal girl.
using a sword
Eh? And he looks fat as fuck here.
you're argument could hold water if you weren't being a fucking idiot and comparing people with vastly different levels of experience and skill. and who says teach isn't the strongest yonko?
Pirates drank booze all the time and had shitty diets, it is a wonder why more aren't fat.
Magellan wouldn't benefit that much from haki though. If a guy gets near him he just hydra's him and he's dead
Haki isn't that important for some characters
Speaking of shitty fan colorings, has his official colors been released yet? I haven't seen that yet.
Why are people always saying they couldn't do jack shit based on this part?
They're not Whitebeard who is strong as fuck but has shitty defense because of his old age.
Akainu vs Aokiji lasted for 10 days for god's sake, and try to remember how devastating their attacks are. Akainu's magma punch couldn't go through Marco's defense and hurt him either. It seems pretty clear fights of that level are of endurance because their haki nullifies most of the attack's strengh, just use ones like Luffy vs Dofla as reference.
Marco was considered as the next possible Yonko if not for BB. Seems pretty clear he's not far from the admiral's strengh.
You're the hero
I made a webm of the intro but it ended up being too big to post.
Satan, wat? His legs look weirdcause it's a tiny ass panel but fat?
Hardening only cam after the timeskip because
Sentomaru used CoA in the Shabondy fight. Not to mention Garp's punch at the end of Water 7. It was only after the timeskip that he started making it change the color of the skin.
Look at this furry faggot in utter denial.
Have some fucking dignity and just embrace your new found shit-tier fetish and move the fuck on.
if you wasn't comparing people with vastly different levels of experience and skills
Well it was you or some other user who first used the luffy vs crocodile fight as an example to show Ds will go farther for the win. Which as I said , more then just going farther played into that win. My point is still the same, just because you're a will of D doesn't mean you get some willpower power boost like you're the MC or something.
who's to say BB isn't the strongest yonko
Who's to say he is? Who's to say he can go take out kaido and big mom right now since he will of D will make him go farther for the win?
doesn't know the fist of love is just haki
hes also got 2 devil fruits and before that is seemingly the only human who was able to land an attack on shanks.
the people with the name D are tenacious , theres a reason they're held in such high regard
I believe Hardening is the black coating. CoA existed but not "Koka". And both Koka and invisble CoA has been used post-TS.
Koka wasn't a thing pre-TS becuse CoA was still being worked on.
I guess BB learnt Haki? Quake power is broken as shit, but his defense is garbage.
It's less about his defense and more about his fruit. His ability pulls in everything including damage. The fact that he can take that much punishment and be a-okay is amazing.
I'm really looking forward to the next chapter. Never been this hyped for One Piece in a long time, Dressrosa dragged out for way too long.
What your expecting, Pudding to make a speaking appearance, more Reverie and returning characters hype, Vinsmoke brothers or Big Mom fully revealed?
Why is this movie so disliked? It's dumb but it's fun.
I was including the fruit thing when I was saying that.
I mean, no wonder he didn't seems to wants to fight Akainu, you can fucking tank him like that. And even with quake power, wouldn't he end the same way as in the Impel Down arc again if Magellan attacked him by surprise?
Still find it weird how he tanked Sengoku's attacks without much problem though.
But invisible CoA still exists in post-TS, numerous times we've seen several characters using CoA without blackening.
Because this fanbase hats robots.
As we should.
Too formulaic without much elevation of action. Also terrible CG.
Does getting an antidote to poison mean your body doesn't make antibodies against it? I don't know how it works. But Teach might be immune, I guess. Magma would be miserable. Imagine the fucking pain.
Sengoku makes sense though. It was a powerful attack but at the end of the day, it was blunt force.
Nigga, I explicitly wrote that in my post.
tits the movie
Magellan would be a kickass admiral if it wasn't for his poison affecting anyone around him
holds two DF
True but doesn't mean he can take other yonkos out when he please
only human to land an attack on shanks
I highly doubt this, you might mean the only one to leave a scar on shanks but 1) we've only seen shanks from the neck up, if kaido and WB both wore a button up shirt how many of their scars would we see? Plus just because a scar isn't left doesn't mean he hasn't last a fight. 2) we don't know where shanks was at the time in his life. He could have just been a few years in after Rogers death who knows. He said he wasn't slacking off but that doesn't mean he was yonko level at the time either.
Ds are tenacious
They Are but it was never stated that having a D makes you stronger. Ds just tend to be in the center of most chaos that's it. Just how dragon is considered the world most dangerous man. Not because he's the strongest but because he's the biggest threat to the WG.
Stop being a girl.
Funnily enough, as an Admiral, his 4 hour shiftw would fine since no one is gonna bother yelling at Admirals like Aokiji.
Wouldn't Carrot be interested by robots?
We need some exceptions for that joke.
Why is there 2 Nami's there?
If a guy gets near him he just hydra's him and he's dead
Don't take in account only melee attacks. He would get wrecked by the 3 admirals for example.
Also, how would his poison work against Logia? No effect? What if he combined if with Haki?
What would be the point of haki for Magellan? It would just block his poison, surely. For defense, sure.
What if he combined if with Haki?
How would you Haki poison anyway?
Enel lighting = death
He could use his haki, in order to tank attacks and hit logia users.
I guess normal haki appliance would be fine. Maybe he can coat a hydra in haki and just use it like a giraffe's neck. Although, I don't know if he can since it's intangible but not part of his body. It's not like strings, for example.
He was half dead and would have killed Akainu but he ran away.
Haki doesn't block fruit abilities
I doubt Magellan can't fight logias, if he couldn't why didn't Crocodile solo him?
The poison would have made Crocodile solid.
Wait, I'm confused.
If bounties aren't powerlevels, why did Luffy comment on Hody Jones' strength saying "You're definetlay strong enough to be worth over 100 million."
Even so, Magellan still has other ways to poison. I'm sure logias still have to breathe
Since when does Haki block poison?
Enel lighting = death
One Piece character =/= dying
I imagine if you get the poison off the Haki before you turn it off you just might get away with it
It was more of a question. Cause, CoA is technically a coating, right? So if a CoA fist hits you, it would be the CoA you feel. Not the poison? Like Smoker's elbow, for example.
I don't know if that makes sense.
I guess he could just Haki up and simple coat himself with Poison over the haki. I don't know why this concept is giving me trouble
Anyone have that one Doflamingo and the very bad day pic? I need my meme fix.
I really don't think there's any cause to assume Haki can block Magellan's poison like that.
Haki basically makes you hit harder and tank more, but it's still your skin. And it's a neurotoxin that can kill you on contact.
This whole discussion is all just headcanon right now.
No, I was talking about when Magellan uses Haki. Not if someone uses it against him.
And I figured he just has to do to get over it.
In that case, Magellan would just use regular Haki.
I mean, if you come at him, he's just going to poison you.
Damn, Magellan had a really fucking powerful devil fruit power.
Did he really deserve to get demoted? His only mistake was letting Shillew out. He tried his damnedest to keep all those prisoners in.
I thought he stepped down? Might be remembering it wrong. And it may also be just something they did to appease the Celestial Dragons.
I think it's mostly to save face. It would obviously get out that Impel Down was destroyed, someone needs to take the fall. They switch Wardens to looks like things are under control, but keep Magellan onboard knowing he can still keep things in order
Still having Hanyabal as chief Warden is a recipe for disaster.
Who remember when faggots thought Doffy was going to die?
Top fucking Kek
b-but he can't survive
o-Oda will kill him
Hahahaha the delusion is real
Did you see him fight Luffy? His resolve is absolute.
Hanyabal knows his mission is important and he will fight for it.
I imagine with him finally having the damn position he won't try to undermine Magellan at every opportunity, and actually focus on running the place.
No way, dude. Hanyabal is a fucking badass. He truly believes in what he's doing. He didn't go topless to level 5 to show off to Magellan, he did it to show his resolve.
And the best things about him is that like the rest of Impel Down staff he is an actual decent human being unlike Akainu and his cronies.
Well, I don't about Sadie and the Mino-gang. And I can't really remember much about Saldeath's outlook on things.
show me a bigger asspull
show me a bigger shitpost
If they didn't care about justice, they wouldn't have taken the jobs.
Akainu cares about Justice too. I'm just saying that Hanyabal is like the only person I can safely say is a good human being.
so butthurt you need to make things up
When Ace met Shanks it was at the North or South Pole
True or false?
the gravity samurai is a nice person too.
Fair enough, but at least the two highest authorities in the entire facility hold these views.
...actually now that I think about it we never got to explore Magellan's views on this, but he seems intent on doing his job by the book.
Aokiji is going to pull a GIn, right?
This is how I knew this post was bait.
I think Aokiji is a cover agent secretly working for Akainu, and their fight was just a big stunt to make everyone believe Aokiji now resents the navy.
Magellan too. Sadi obviously as well.
Talking about Impel Down, ya dingledonger.
Yea, Magellan was about as goofy as Hanyabal but his heart is in the right place.
Magellan, sure but Sadie? Yea, she works to keep the criminals in but a good person? Don't know about that.
Oda hid her eyes because he doesn't know how to draw non namifaace girls
wow that joke was lame
is kuma alive or not?
Do YOU even know what fodder. Is It's short for cannon fodder,
No, that's not what fodder means you fucking idiot. Fodder are crops raised for animal feed, alfalfa, hay, oats, etc. Cannon fodder is a colloquialism indicating the troops are feed for the cannon.
Unless there's a fucking qualifier, fist fodder, sword fodder, ect., then you're just referring to forage crops, not disposable combatants.
Also "fodders" is not the fucking plural form.
Now go be retarded somewhere else.
How is she not a good person?
What good person gets sexually aroused torturing other people?
She loves torturing. Even Akainu doesn't do that.
What good person gets sexually aroused torturing other people?
Those are the best kind of people. You haven't lived until you've been with a dominatrix, bro.
Fans are referred as LuNa
LuNa is used as an astrological name for those born under the sign of Cancer
The word used for delusional shitposters
Lunatic has the word LuNa in it
A lunatic is a mentally ill person
LuNafags confirmed to be cancer and mentally ill.
I just got it.
Why does it matter if someone is stronger or not? Luffy doesn't recruit members due to that. Do you even know what One Piece is all about?
the word autism was made for you
Symbolism. Zoro and Sanji will always be the strongest in the crew
Jinbei isn't joining because he would ruin this, besides having poor interactions with the crew, not fitting the crew archetype and being overall a boring character
He can't. His bounty is bigger than Zoro's and Oda is a giant Zoro dickrider.
implying Oda cares for your headcanon and shit taste
The thing is bounties are effected by a lot of things and not just powerlevel. Like just because kid had the highest bounty of the supernova didn't mean he's stronger then luffy. The best example would be usopp. We all know 100% sure he isn't the third strongest strawhat yet he has the third highest bounty. Bounty really is just the opinion of how dangerous the government sees someone or their involvement in a big event.
I kinda think status is closer to a power level (yonko, admiral, shichibukai etc...) but the power difference are just to crazy between all of them and other things play into effect so it's hard to put power levels in OP
Then why would Luffy comment that Hody Jones is strong enough to be worth over 100 million?
He's that dangerous?
he thinks Sanji could do anything God Usopp
All you had to say is no.
he thinks Sanji could do aything against God Usopp
why are sanjifags so delusional?
what is wrong with you?
this meme about Usopp
Go to leddit
We don't like your autism here
But the government didn't actually care about him.
So bounties must be some sort of....power level.
lmao, not my fault you cant understand the basics of a children's manga
or is luffy becoming pirate king a headcanon too?
Well just because bounty can't be used for power levels doesn't mean his strength won't play a part in his bounty. I mean literally any strong pirate will or should get a bounty over 100 mil unless they people a BB and stay low. Hody on the steroids would have gotten over a 100 just like Enel would have been over 500 mil. What I'm saying is bounty can be used sometimes to estimate someone strength like Jacks, but it really isn't a reliable choice.
What I'm saying is bounty can be used sometimes to estimate someone strength like Jacks
But Jacks bounty is just that high because he is known for killing whole country populations
That's consensual though
Roid Hody would probably get a lot higher than 100 million in Paradise simply because he'd focus on wiping out or subjugating human inhabited islands. He'd probably match Enel's bounty.
When you become a pirate, you're consenting to the torture Sadi puts you through when you get caught.
baiting with unfunny jokes
Here's your (you). Now go somewhere
Luffy literally commented on his STRENGTH as being worth over 100 million when he fought him.
I imagine he'll join after next bounty increase, at that moment Zoro will be 520mil and Jinbe's as I recall was 400mil.
What I'm saying is bounty can be used sometimes to estimate someone strength like Jacks
But Jack is piss-weak, his only merit is that he's unkillable, but he's still incapable of beating anyone.
Jack is piss-weak
love this meme
The Government didn't know about him?
They knew about him. Smoker knew of him.
They just didn't care much about what happens on Fishman Island. They didn't even show up to round up the pirates at the end of the fight like they usually do.
I really hope Jinbe shows up this arc. He's already confirmed as the tenth.
I doubt that as 1) humans already hate their kind 2)he isn't as smart as arlong and would deal with humans at all. Arlong paid to keep marines off him, once they caught wind of what hody been doing they would murder him plus he can't be on roids all of his life
But Jack is piss-weak
We've seen him go on offensive three times now, two of those he was utterly crushed and once he was getting utterly crushed until he cheated and used chemical weaponry his boss bought.
When he actually joins Franky will have to remodel all doors on Sunny.
jack is piss weak
Who has he been defeated by that's weak and wouldn't destroy any other pirate? Plus this makes the Minks jobber for not being able to defeat such a weak person. Also he wasn't even hurt by zou attacks. So who's weak again?
you are so retarded it hurts
He was defeated by peasants and their toddlers.
Name one person besides a Yonko that could go against an Admiral, a former Fleet Admiral and Tsuru
He was "losing" against the minks because there were more of them and they are also fucking strong, also the minks said the only one they couldn't bring down was Jack himself
We did not even see a second of this fight against the 3 marine super powers. And he fought against the Minks for 7 days straight without rest and they still could not do shit against him. He used the gas solely because he lost his patience and not because he was pressured or anything. And show me a single other character without hax powers who would survive getting hit by Zunishas trunk.
Nigga, wat? I know Jinbe is joining. I just don't see it happening soon.
I do not even read the manga
I don't think the human hatred would play that big of a role, chances of him encountering a Celestial and getting an Admiral to stop him right away are pretty slim under the circumstances.
If someone as delusional about his might as Enel could make it to five hundred millions then I'm sure Hody would get pretty close to that number.
But neither of them would last too long. Hody either OD's or starts aging and Enel would meet someone like Pekoms sooner or later.
5 days* iirc.
mistaking his crew getting beat with him
No speed reader where did they ever say they defeated him? If you actually read slow enough you would see that they said no matter how make of his crew they took out more kept coming and he couldn't be defeated. Now this was him fighting for 5 days straight with neko and inu having time to eat and rest. Then he just got tired and BTFO of the minks
Long as you know.
Guys, guys...what part in the story is THIS guy and His momma gonna play?
Shit, man. I'm not Oda. It was just my 2 cents. Take it or leave it.
I love you, too user.
Now go to sleep.
Who IS Edward Weevil?
He'll just randomly assualt the Strawhats on their way to Wano and will be an actual match for G4 Luffy.
weird how little fanart she has.
This is the most retarded fucking character Oda has introduced in recent times.
His concept, his design, any role he could play, all of it is fucking stupid.
Woah, FutureBoy! Tell me, how does Wholecake Island end? How does Wano end? I mean, clearly you must be from the future to know all about Weevil.
Yes, I imagine you prefer character like Law, because they remind you of yourself: cynical nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor.
I am buttmad that a Shichibukai has no edgy and coooool design
I wish Magellan would come back
Forneverworld is ugly as fuck
Wow. She's pretty much a rabbit version of Koala.
not even close
Forneverworld looks like the Mancubus from Doom
I can't believe Thatch is fucking dead...
No, he looks like every single one of you fat fucks in here.
Don't act like he doesn't look like all of you.
I can't believe this meme isn't
implying you are not the fat fuck who is projecting right now
Sorry, but I look like a mix of Sawyer and RogersBase
So Kidd's bounty is only high because he kills innocents and it has nothing to do with how strong he is? Fuck off with that bullshit logic tard.
Whitebeard's division commander
gets killed by some noname
Oda is a hack
it has nothing to do with how strong he is
I never said that you fucking autistic piece of dogshit
Yea I look kinda like sawyer too
So you look like half a faggot?
So Kidd's bounty is only high because he kills innocents and it has nothing to do with how strong he is?
That has literally, and I do mean literally, word for word been stated multiple times.
You said Jack only has a high bounty because he kills lots on innocents but that fucking retarded. Oda gave him a high bounty to show that Yonkou's and their high ranking crew members are on a whole nother level of power.
You said Jack only has a high bounty because
No i didn't asshole, stop putting words in my mouth
the hiatus is really killing one piece threads, right?
Is Jack meme level?
Kaido has the zoan mithological of the Dragon
i have several clues
OP in hiatus
The end is near.
So when will we see a Unicorn Zoan?
So, how powerful would Luffy be if he can use G4 indefinitely? I can't think that he's admiral level, only slightly above mingo.
What other characters do we even have between mingo and admiral level?
yes. and Buggy is yonko level
We get a chapter this week faggot.
Jacks bounty only Hugh because he's known for killing whole countries populations.
Where was this ever stated? Please stop with the head canon. There has been times when oda clearly has tried to use bounties as an indication of just how strong an opponent is and jack is one of those times.
Doffy is the lower end of admiral level. so is G4 Roofy as far as we know.
What if Luffy applied Jet to Elephant Gatling Gun?
Is it just me or did thus break feel longer then usual?
what week? its fucking sunday already.
Sunday it's the first day of the week.
only Yonko level
not Roger level
Sunday is actually the start of a new week user.
because last chapter was out on a monday I think
no, its the last day of the week? or i'm jsut missign some shitty meme.
it's the last day of the week
anon never noticed how it's the first day on the calendar
Alright user go to sleep
Oh yeah that's true so it basically feel like it's been two weeks almost
Not a meme. Look it up
holy shit, that's actually true in american calendars
how do other countries do this? german here, week starts at monday
Whats the saddest moment in one piece?
Bell-Mere being executed
These back to back 2 week waits have felt like forever.. It also didn't help that the latest chapter was 13 pages.
next issue one piece will be taking a break
you beat me to it
In all seriousness, megallan's fruit is God tier for 1 on 1's/melee fights, no question. The only thing really in question is the strength of megallan himself, which I would say is about vice admiral or maybe a little higher at a push. Give him haki, a little more durability, & some of those marine moves like soru, & now you have a low admiral tier marine
shank's arm execution.
What kind of devil-fruit would be able to counter BB darkness fruit?
Man, i just hope Brook gets a fight.
I don't get why people want MORE Strawhats when Oda can barely manage the current 9.
It's Merrys death btw
why have more straw hats when of a cam barely handle nine.
It's not that oda can't handle a lot of people, just look at how he handled MF or impel down. What he can't handle is how weak he made characters. He seems to struggle finding a match up for everyone outside of the big three and franky. I mean look at usopp fight, he had to win by a gag since he's so weak. Same goes for brook and the crew vs Jora.
If oda adds jinbe then he will for sure get a legit fight. I doubt brook,nami, or chopper will get a real fight this arc. Well nami just got a new weapon she needs to show off so she might get one but the other two wont. Brook knowledge of germa will come in handy though
I never understand the gura gura no mi power, withebeard was supposed to be somekind of tremor-man but he could make quakes at long dinstances and to my understanding paramecias dosen't work like that. Does withebeard awaken his fruit or something?
but he could make quakes at long dinstances
Do you know what an earthquake actually is?
thats just a lie, he managed just fine pre-time skip to give people their fair amount of fight time. and the usopp fight are some of the best fights in one piece. The problem is the amount of charecters. Thats why hes splitting them into teams now.
why didn't he fuck up the marine base?
implying earthquakes are extremely localized
implying the strongest pirate in the world hasn't obviously awakened his Devil fruit
How high up were you when your mother dropped you?
Yeah because earthquakes travel through air and water of course.
pre time skip they were fine with fight times
this is the new world user not paradise. Name one opponent that brook,nami or chopper could have defeated From A island they've been too? I'll wait .
So no, you don't know what an earthquake is.
They could have beaten some of Doflamingo's executives.
earthquakes not being underwater
How do you Think tsunami are made
travel through air
He's a tremor man he can make anything tremor
How do you Think tsunami are made
The tsunami fruit
could have beat doffy executive
No they couldnt. They all struggled against Jora, possibly the weakest executive. That's why oda had luffy GF captains defeat them
He was the only one that could corner Roger but I don't know why he was a hero!
Also he and Sengoku handled Blackbeard's crew.
Doesn't exist and then that would narrow down the power to having to be around water
They go UNDERwater no through water, the movement of the earth causes the water to move and create tsunamis.
Whitebreard hit the fucking air in his boat and make and earthquake in marineford, which brings me to the question, if his fruit is a paramecia why can he make tremors through something other than his body if he was on earth I would understand it.
how useful/strong would be carrot if she joins the crew?
No they couldnt.
Chopper probably could have beaten Gladius, Jora, or Deligener, or Senor Pink.
Nami could have beaten Gladius, Senor Pink, Sugar, Buffalo, or Jora.
Brook could beat Gladius, Machevise, Jora, or Buffalo.
hopefully suicidal enough for them to actually do it
Whitebreard hit the fucking air in his boat and make and earthquake in marineford
So you think that for Whitebeard to make an earthquake, he as to...punch the ground or something?
Are you high?
NO, it's patrick!
she would be a pretty good
His devil fruit and high-tier haki could actually make him pretty fast if he learned how to properly use it. Weakness to Luffy's fruit aside, he's basically a weaker Kizaru.
You're just naming off match ups, not people they could beat. Jora already had them beat but was just stupid like I aaid. Sugar is faster then the dwarfs which means she's after then Nami. She would be turned into a toy before she could even attack. Gladis could just blow his self up or his surrounding defeating any of them. Dellinger only lost to hakuba, everyone else he defeated including ideo. So I doubt they could beat him. Buffalo can fly and none of them would have been able to touch him. I doubt any of them could handle macvise weight. Senor pink was Franky fight so no.
isn't weaker her has other strong points, Agumented Kenbunshoku Haki, Long-range attacks, High Temperature attacks, He looks fucking cool.
agreed user, I'm baffled too. His WSM title, I feel was merely a title he held on to from back when he was fighting Roger. At Marineford, the guy was an old sickly former shell of himself, and got his head blown off by Akainu, while the latter tanked his quake punches. Shanks had more impressive feats by singlehandedly stopping the war, hell even an out of shape rayleigh stalemated kizaru. And there are people who think old whitebeard can beat a prime Rayleigh, which is just an utter insult to both Rayleigh and even Roger. Assuming the world's greatest pirate's first mate in his prime can't even handle his rival, not just in old age but while he's sickly too.
Kizaru has less AoE damage
Something I've always wondered about one piece is, if shanks had haki, why did he lose his arm?
Too busy trying to save Luffy. It's not like he had DF powers to kill the monster.
he wasn't that powerful that time.
it wasn't developed at the time yet most likely. It's retarded to believe shanks would lose his arm to fodder if haki was thought of at the time
Did I imagine the part when Kizaru only had to point and shoot a laser in order to create a massive explosion?
Could post TS luffy beat ace?
Probably, ace was really arrogant and trustful (if that's the right word) that's why BB destroyed him.
luffy would shit all over him. Hell sanji could arguably beat him now
zoro could fucking rekt him up.
Zolo can't even beat Sanji.
is this bait?
But can sanji beat jimbei?
Are you retarded? Zolo and Sanji are equal
If sanji can't even beat an iceboig how can he beat Zoro?
A loose cannon who (was) under promoted for loose cannon behavior who's pursuing a jovial pirate?
Parallels are there, Smoker has lost all credibility right now though.
Why does the most popular manga in Japan have the absolute worst anime adaptation of all time?
The villain for Nekomamushi's cover story.
well I know he didn't have DF, hence why he could stay afloat, but this fought kaido 1v1, how is a small sea monster gonna do him in?
no, WB said he was
but he definitely had haki, no one can get that powerful without it
Did you imagine the part where:
Enel oblitarated Angel's Beach... and would have destroyed the entire Skypiea as well?
Killed hundreds of his own man with his volley?
Kizaru's laser must have the same range as an El Thor
Will kaido and shanks be able to crack the air like this too?
Strong enough to surprise Zoro and brutalize Luffy, and can make Pedro shit himself.
i fucking want her in the crew, anyway they don't have a mink they need one, and need jinbei too.
german here, week starts at monday
Even in Germany, Sunday is the first day of the week, Monday is the start of the work week. Osti calendars sometimes start that way.
I was going to say speedster since the crew's lacking that beyond gear 2 Luffy, but then I remembered Brook. Why is skeltal such a non-entity?
I'm sure if Kizaru had a gigantic machine that amplified his powers he would be able to attack a wide area as well, but if I'm not mistaken the subject was the power of their Devil fruits
It's a shame that she doesn't have haki, because she could be the bodyguard, a qt bodyguard.
she'd be the ship whore and have no role to fill. You carrot fags are worse than Perona fags, I'm getting ptsd from arguing with those losers.
They actually need somebody watching over Nami,chopper and brook they can't defend themselves (brook isn't match for the major part of enemies).
That's Nami role user
Nami will always have her Sanji-kun looking over her. That's the reason why he is an expert in observation haki
Not him, but Law is perfect and beautiful, so please don't conflate him to some random shitposter. Thanks.
i'm done with this shit, just fucking kill me.
Don't say that user. Just let it happen
until now, he doesn't
Ever since the fishman arc, oda has been trying to make it clear that Zoro is much much stronger than Luffy. I did believe that zoro=luffy pre timeskip, but Zoro recieved thorough training from Mihawk that surpasses Luffy's training from Reyleigh. I suspect they will become equals sometime before end of story.
Luffy/Zoro vs Hyouzou - Luffy, being the gear second camper as usual (thats all he learnt besides the basics of haki from the training) had his Jet pistol completely blocked by Hyouzou. Luffy was also serious and Hyouzou was unfazed. Zoro fought Hyouzou on energy steroids and still fodderized him. He broke his swords then one shotted him, which clearly proves Zoro's superiority in destructive capacity to Luffy.
Luffy/Zoro vs Monet - This made Luffy look like a joke. Luffy had to escape whereas Zoro just toyed with Monet by not even using Haki when he cut her and made her shit herself. Oda portrayed Zoro as much stronger than Luffy when fighting opponents with weird abilities.
Luffy/Zoro vs Punk hazard's dragon - Pretty much the same situation as Luffy/Zoro vs Hyouzou. Luffy instantaneously gets in to gear second and his jet bullet could only stun the dragon. Right after he gets smacked across the island like fodder. Zoro on the other hand, could match the dragon in sheer force. He then one shotted the dragon which Luffy could do nothing against.
Zoro became more built After the timeskip, Zoro became much more muscular, just look at how thick his neck his. This is testament to Zoro's massive strength increase over the timeskip.
Luffy on the other hand remains unchanged and is still a scrawny little weak boy
Zoro implied that he is stronger than Luffy without CoC
When Lufy knocked out 50,000 fishmen, Zoro said that he needed Luffy to do a feat like that or he would have to step down. This means that Zoro is already stronger than Luffy and deserved the captain position, but the only thing that sets them apart is Luffy's king's haki. This is useless in a fight against non-fodder opponents, so Zoro is still stronger than Luffy
Luffy can't compete without a cheap DF - Zoro is all real power, unless you want to argue that Dfless luffy > Swordless zoro then we must all agree that Zoro>>>>>>Luffy
Zoro was trained by a stronger master than Luffy
If Mihawk >> Old Reyleigh and both Luffy and Zoro became like 20% (random number) as strong as their masters, then Zoro > Luffy
Zoro>Luffy (at the moment)
Obviously zoro is equal to luffy he just took all his wounds, and he doesn't have any DF i mean he's a fucking human.
K Y S A S A P
Didn't read you guy, Go kill yourself.
Robin joined when her bounty was higher than Zoro's. The reason he didn't join earlier was because his bounty was higher than Luffy's. Now he would be okay. This arc will establish Sanji is stronger than him, he'll join and then after Wano Zoro's bounty will be higher than his.
trains all day
rival is a cook that is too busy with pussy and never trains
Kek don't even compare him to Luffy
Finally someone with some sense in here, Zoro took all of Luffy's pain like a boss without any DF. Luffy is a bitch who overrelies on his DF as a get out of jail free card, pre haki. If they did fight Zoro is hard counter to luffy, and the latter would get his arms lopped off and he can't afford to be wreckless against him. It's kind of like Mihawk vs BB, BB may be more powerful end of series but his devilfruit is useless against someone with out a devil fruit. Also Zoro has yet to be pushed yet, and has the most hype out of all the straw hats. Hell the entire reason he's in the crew is to be muscle, so him being on par or stronger than Luffy isn't ridiculous. He has no other skills, he can't make maps, he can't cook, he's just the muscle of the group.
Also using Sanji against Zoro is dumb, Sanji would push luffy to the limit if they fought now. Not to mention he's inarguably the most talented strawhat, seeing as how he's apart of the monster trio yet doesn't even have a passion for fighting and handicaps himself to kicks only. He doesn't use a DF or any weapon either, dude's pretty hardcore desu.
i actually have and idea for doujin but my draw skills are shit, i have been taking info about Seastone Handcuff and how do the limite Devil F users.
This arc will establish Sanji is stronger than him
underage edgelords need to go
and retardeds that says luffy is a bitch too.
I don't fucking understand why people can't see Zoro and Luffy as equal.
Because they are not equal idiot
THEY ARE, GOD FUCKING DAMNIT!
Yeah Zoro is stronger (atm)
Year of Sanji
Oda's really big on his monster trio
dont be cancer there was a thread already.
fuck off new fag
No. Stay away from all of these characters.
REAL NEW THREAD
You made your trade 5 min after mine. Can't use search function, you're the fucking newfag.
REAL NEW THREAD
You made your trade 5 min after mine. Can't use search function, kill yourself fucking newfag.
I'll just let the anons check both threads. They will decide who is the newfag.
You literally copied and pasted my 2 post.
You don't even know how this works.
I'm sure they will be able to tell you're a newfag
You're a fucking retard and a newfag.