Magical Girl Thread

Caleb Watson
Caleb Watson

So, I've just realised that I've watch more Magical Girl anime than I have any other genre. Can someone tell me a bit about what the fuck is wrong with me? Here's what I've watched (in the order I watched them):

Card Captor Sakura - should I rewatch this? I think that since it was the first Magical Girl thing I watched, I didn't appreciate it for what it was. Weirdly, I hardly remember any of it, I almost want to say it was just monster of the week.
Mia Hime + Mia Otome - I barely have any memory of Hime, but a fair bit of Otome is still somewhere in my head. Even though I can't seem to remember if they were any good. Did Hime have anything memorable in it? All that sticks in my mind was that girl with the red hair who killed guys, I barely even remember the plot of the series.
Puella Magi Madoka Magica - mandatory, awesome.
Dai Mahou Touge - fucking hilarious show. Top tier.
W.I.T.C.H - Western, despite it being like 50 episodes, I barely remember it. All I really recall is the portal shit and the plot of the last season. I want to say it was below average.
Tokyo Mew Mew & Shugo Chara! - Much like W.I.T.C.H, I barely remember these, although I do remember that Mew Mew was unredeemable shit and that both shows were monster of the week. Shugo Chara was the better of the two, it had me constantly hooked thinking that it was GOING TO get good, but never did - by the second season it was only saved by its funny characters, the rest of the show sucked.

Fuck - does it say anything that I don't remember the majority of these animes? Does that mean they were shit?

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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Christmas%20Cake
Luke Butler
Luke Butler

animes
youtube cover image from google image
blogging

lurk for 2 years before posting bud. what an awful way to start a thread.

watch aikatsu/precure

David Brooks
David Brooks

bumping a thread you don't like
Looks like I'm not the only one who needs to lurk more.

Easton Carter
Easton Carter

i saged you autist, it was on page 1.

Christian White
Christian White

Fair enough.

Dominic Adams
Dominic Adams

Does that mean they were shit?
No. Not all of them are shit.

Just a select few.

Oliver Turner
Oliver Turner

Nothing is wrong with you. Mahou Shoujo is arguably the best genre out there. It takes the best elements of fantasy and reality and mixes them together. While also focusing on character development (most of the time).

Fuck - does it say anything that I don't remember the majority of these animes? Does that mean they were shit?
Well, aside from CCS, you didn't exactly watch the best mahou shoujo shows. Watch some others.

Thomas Bailey
Thomas Bailey

Watch Crystal.

Landon Taylor
Landon Taylor

so you've watched seven anime?

Austin Campbell
Austin Campbell

Well, aside from CCS, you didn't exactly watch the best mahou shoujo shows. Watch some others.
Odd, I've seen some lists that even rank Shugo Chara ABOVE CCS. I just find it so weird how little I remember, like I'm tempted to rewatch some of these because I remember so little of them that I can't even convince myself that they were shit. At least I have the luxury of remembering how bad Mew Mew was. I'll definite never watch that shit again.

Eli Evans
Eli Evans

Odd, I've seen some lists that even rank Shugo Chara ABOVE CCS.
And I've seen countless lists that rank Naruto and FullMetal Alchemist as the best anime ever made. Doesn't mean its true.

Carter Harris
Carter Harris

I actually first learned about the MG genre well before I started dabbling with anime. I was a big fan of the webcomic Angel Moxie, which is basically an affectionate parody of the genre.

Angel Rodriguez
Angel Rodriguez

I suppose the length counts for something, when you add them all up, it's nearly 400 episodes of Magical Girl.

Thinking more on this one. My memory might not indicate too much. For example, I don't remember much about the plot of Ah! My Goddess, but I do remember that it was awesome. I suppose the most shocking thing is that I don't even remember how good most of these anime were.

Fuck it, can someone convince me either to rewatch some of these or to never watch them again? I feel like I need a reminder of why some of these are either good or shit.

Gabriel Perry
Gabriel Perry

For W.I.T.C.H., read the comic. I knew the show was going to be crap from the start when they cut Elyon from the introduction. And added that stupid gremlin thing. And changed Phobos entire design. And added Elyon's weird spider friend ugh. and apparenting killing off Hay Lin's grandmother was too dark for the show? Then they just pulled the second season out of their asses instead of following the source material at all.

TMM is pretty bad but it's cute and has a place in my heart as the first thing I ever watched subbed.

Logan Evans
Logan Evans

I've been watching CCS myself, and I find the SoL mostly boring so far (that may change after I get more used to the characters) but the magic sequences are amazing.
The same thing happened with Nanoha. I wasn't too interested in the plot but I loved all the magic stuff.

Puchi Puri Yuushi focused on the fantasy aspect more than anything, and that's why I loved it so much.

Dominic Rodriguez
Dominic Rodriguez

tl;dr

You should probably watch Doremi though, if the stuff you said up there was generally positive.

Elijah Parker
Elijah Parker

no Sailor Moon
no Nanoha
The only thing wrong with you is that you haven't seen these yet, faggot-kun.

Bentley Miller
Bentley Miller

TMM is pretty bad but it's cute and has a place in my heart as the first thing I ever watched subbed.
Damn. It probably says something that TMM is the one of the few anime I remember something about the quality of on that list. It was entirely predictable, non-stop monster of the week. Unlike Shugo Chara, it didn't even have any good characters to redeem it. The only decent stuff in the entire anime was probably the mild chuckle that you could've got from the scenes where the girl was turned into a cat.

As for W.I.T.C.H, I can hardly comment - I remember barely fucking anything about the series. Was it monster of the week? I don't even remember that much.

Jace Ortiz
Jace Ortiz

Nanoha
not Princess Tutu

Mason Rivera
Mason Rivera

How's Illya? I don't like fanservice and yuribait, I'm only insterested in the mahou shoujo part.

Grayson Wilson
Grayson Wilson

I don't like fanservice and yuribait
Well uh, it has a lot of that

Carson Torres
Carson Torres

The first two seasons have a lot of magic, but the third was mostly SoL and the upcoming forth is more FSN wanking than anything.

Luis Taylor
Luis Taylor

I'd avoid it then, as it's almost entirely fanservice and yuribait.

Aiden Brown
Aiden Brown

Illya is more like a spoof (satire) than an actual mahou shoujo. I mean, it's a spinoff from the Fate universe; what do you really expect?

Joshua Nelson
Joshua Nelson

So, I've just realised that I've watch more Magical Girl anime than I have any other genre
lists 6 shows, one of which isn't even an anime

Perhaps Reddit or MAL would be more to your tastes.

Jason Rogers
Jason Rogers

expecting Sakura thread
it's a newfag can't google rec lists episode

Austin Walker
Austin Walker

There's a lot of genres of anime. Have many people say, watched more than 6 shounen animes?

Gavin Ross
Gavin Ross

animes

lurk for 2 years before posting

Josiah Garcia
Josiah Garcia

Watch Kill la Kill.

Ryan Wood
Ryan Wood

Kill la Kill.
Magical Girl.
Pick one. It's basically a shounen with a female protag.

Christian Bennett
Christian Bennett

Many magical girl anime are shounen.

Benjamin Brown
Benjamin Brown

Magical Girl Thread
Puella Magi Madoka Magica - mandatory, awesome.

Benjamin Hernandez
Benjamin Hernandez

Would you rather want people to watch outdated anime like Doremi or Sally the Witch?

Zachary Scott
Zachary Scott

rec thread

Carson Sullivan
Carson Sullivan

rec thread
CTRL+F "recommend".
Not found.

Nathan Gonzalez
Nathan Gonzalez

Nanoha
Mahou Shoujo

Nanoha is not a magical girl. She's a gundam in a dress.

Hudson Clark
Hudson Clark

She's a magical girl for the parts that are worth watching.

Grayson Reyes
Grayson Reyes

Or anything, really. The way Madoka became popularied and somehow turned into baby's first mahout shoujo is really strange. I guess I just prefer mahou shoujo that's made for actual shoujoes.

Alexander Phillips
Alexander Phillips

I've often wondered if Madoka makes a good first Magical Girl anime. My first mecha anime was NGE, which I think ruined it for me. Maybe I should rewatch it...

Sebastian Harris
Sebastian Harris

Hoonestly it's so far-removed from all the tropes that most people would think of as defining the genre, that I don't even feel stupid saying that Madoka isn't even mahou shoujo in the first place. Even though it's right in the title, like the Democratic Republic of the Congo. It's just another action/drama series to my eyes. I'd say it makes a pretty poor first for the genre for that reason. If you expect anything even remotely similar to Madoka from almost any mahou shoujo, you're probably going to be disappointed, right? I feel like OP knew what he was doing and this here, my replying, was the whole point.

Cooper Smith
Cooper Smith

Seinen magical girl shows really are trash. Basically just fetishistic elevation of the concept of a magical girl tacked on to generic shounen plots while forgetting to write believable characters

Watch the genuine article or don't bother.

Caleb Nelson
Caleb Nelson

PMMM has a certain appeal to people who dislike the mahou shoujo genre, or the concept of magical girls in general.

Cameron Young
Cameron Young

It's more like a decunstruction or a spoof or something. It's definitely intentionally vastly different, but still vaugely similar in terms of things like there being a cute mascot or there being pretty flashy henshins.

Gavin Hall
Gavin Hall

Mia Hime + Mia Otome
Wow. I thought I was the only person to have watched these. Never seen them mentioned on Sup Forums before.

Anthony Jackson
Anthony Jackson

It's a bad first mahou shoujo, which is why it's watchable to people who don't like mahou shoujo. The people who had Madoka as their first mahou shoujo likely wouldn't have watched anything else in the genre.

Jack Baker
Jack Baker

Absolutely not. Entry level stuff should be 90s Sailor Moon or Creamy Mami if it's not too dated for you to enjoy. Or maybe one of the better Precure seasons.

Jeremiah Barnes
Jeremiah Barnes

Sailor Moon was also considered a deconstruction of the mahou shoujo genre because it combined the mahou shoujo elements with sentai.

Josiah Ortiz
Josiah Ortiz

Mia
misspelling when the title is literally a pun on the name of the main character
It was literally all over Sup Forums when it aired.

Cameron Rodriguez
Cameron Rodriguez

So, how do you do mahou shoujo right? I agree with OP that stuff like Chara was only good for its characters and I've heard people say the same of CCS. Is that the trick?

Parker Ramirez
Parker Ramirez

no one ever mentions Okusama wa Mahou Shoujo
there will never be more magical girl shows with older women as the magical girls

I am sad.

Michael Johnson
Michael Johnson

kill yourself retard

Angel Long
Angel Long

Recommending Shugo Chara
Explain.

Carson Price
Carson Price

That's just an outdated (stops at Madoka) version of the "list of all magical girl anime" chart.

Joseph Rogers
Joseph Rogers

What would the plot be in a series about magical Christmas cakes doing cute but magical things?

Ryder Moore
Ryder Moore

If they're Christmas cakes, then obviously they'd be desperately searching for boyfriends.

Eli Nelson
Eli Nelson

If they started as magical girls at the usual age, they're probably married long before they're 25.

Julian Torres
Julian Torres

Who are those characters? They look like aged up Nanoha and Fate in the epilogue to A's. Shame the series ended there. It was getting so good, too.

Jose Gutierrez
Jose Gutierrez

It's a "where are they now" to promote the 10th anniversary BD box set.

James Jenkins
James Jenkins

Damn it, forgot pic!

Jason Davis
Jason Davis

Gonna share my thoughts on defining mahou shoujo, I spent a lot of time writing these posts and got no attention. Recently reread it, expected it to be stupid but I still mostly agree with my past self.
https://desustorage.org/a/thread/135425666/#135442306
https://desustorage.org/a/thread/135425666/#135443112
https://desustorage.org/a/thread/135425666/#135443778

Now, I'm not a big mahou shoujo watcher, they are all so very long, and not everything have been that great even.

It's been so long since I started Sugar Sugar Rune, but haven't gotten far and haven't watched in forever. I just hate when main character falls in love with obviously evil character, it's just not something I enjoy watching. It makes every episode a pain to watch. But been thinking about continuing the second season of Sailor Moon, since that's a show I have fun with.

Wyatt Sullivan
Wyatt Sullivan

If they're Christmas cakes, then obviously they'd be desperately searching for boyfriends.
"Christmas cakes" are not necessarily unmarried women or without children, MILFs can be Christmas cakes too if they fit the definition.

That said with NanoFate married or even before that I would hardly classify them as Christmas cakes. Christmas cakes by definition are not wanted women, but Nanoha and Fate are deeply admired within their world and they have lots of love for each other.

James Lee
James Lee

Sentai mahou shoujo is where it's at. It's kind of interesting to see Precure franchise writers sort of re-learning this lesson years later with the transition from the futari was to all the yes5 sequels they make now.

Michael Davis
Michael Davis

I've not even heard of most of the shows in the OP. What have I missed?

Ryder Jenkins
Ryder Jenkins

It's made for little girls
The main character is a girl with some kind of magic

That's all. The rest is just details that got added to the concept over time and have little to do with what started it.

Kevin Jackson
Kevin Jackson

Shugo chara is at least recommendable for its cute characters, as per this thread's earlier statements and my present concurrence which will be in the form of this image upload.

Thomas Baker
Thomas Baker

It's made for little girls

Is this it? I definitely like "kids shows" in general. I guess I've just always ended up watching alot of them having younger sibs and working at a day care. I feel like these shows mostly have heartwarming postivie values and are cute as fuck, and honestly, thats what I need, what probably all ya'll niggas need.

Chase Ramirez
Chase Ramirez

I've seen over 70 mecha, and a majority of those are 26-50 episodes long, I think you might just be retarded.

James Taylor
James Taylor

Madoka is a twisted up because it's specifically about using the expectations of a mahou shoujo show to jerk the audience around and pull them through the story. It won't especially set you up to watch other ones because it's not trying to reach you the same way, it's just different. You can like both, though. Utena kinda fits into a similar box.

Meanwhile Sailor Moon, CCS, Princess Tutu, Precure, Shugo Chara, these all play it pretty straight by comparison.

Thomas Campbell
Thomas Campbell

The main memory I have of the series is all the egg-related lewd-posting here on Sup Forums.

Brayden James
Brayden James

Some good points, although you mostly focused on aesthetic qualities, and thematic qualities are relevant in defining genre.

Brandon Collins
Brandon Collins

"Christmas cakes" are not necessarily unmarried women or without children
Yes they are.
MILFs can be Christmas cakes too if they fit the definition.
No they can't. By definition a Christmas cake is a woman who has never been married, no one "had her", like a cake without any slices cut out.

One she marries/has children she becomes a milf, but you can't call a milf a Christmas Cake the same way you can't call a DILF a wizard.

Andrew Diaz
Andrew Diaz

Yeah. The shows aimed at older audiences like Madoka, Nanoha, etc are basically an entirely different genre in terms of writing, characters, romance, morals, plots, just about everything except for some visual tropes (mascots, transformations, etc).

Jonathan Gomez
Jonathan Gomez

lewd

The Amu is not for lewding.

I'll be honest here. Only watched a couple episodes of this and made a couple webms before I got bored. It definitely was cute though.

Isaiah Jenkins
Isaiah Jenkins

A woman 26 years+ who is considered to be past her prime, undesirable, used goods and/or no good.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Christmas%20Cake

Cameron Foster
Cameron Foster

sasug/a/

Nolan Collins
Nolan Collins

The Amu is not for lewding.
It's actually surprisingly difficult to find porn of her. I've only seen about a couple of things from sadpanda and that's about it.

Benjamin Jackson
Benjamin Jackson

I've never seen CCS. Should I try it?

Aiden Kelly
Aiden Kelly

How have you not watched Princess Tutu yet?

Zachary Miller
Zachary Miller

It's really good. It starts kinda slow, but eventually it forgets to be a magical girl show and turns into one of the best romance anime of all time. And even before that it's still entertaining, just not that much plot.

Brayden Mitchell
Brayden Mitchell

Nothing wrong with you, you just genuinely belong here among your little sisters.

Ryan Green
Ryan Green

What I can remember from TMM was that I was a pretty avid shipper of Ichigo/Quiche, Zakuro/Mint, and Ryo/Keiichiro.

Mint was my favourite character overall by far.

W.I.T.C.H was kind of MOTW, but had an overarching plot at least. The arcs were kind of stand-aloneish though.

I remember the first arc was 'Elyon goes to Meridian where she's the princess and is manipulated by her evil brother Phobos' and the second one that was kind of adapted for the show was 'Hay Lin's grandma was one of the original guardians and one of them turned evil and now she's back with a vengeance'. I can't remember after that but apparently the comic didn't end until 2012. I think I only read the first 3-4 arcs though.

I also remember being pissed they changed so much from the comic because I read it first.

Elyon and Irma (the water one) were my favourites.

Thomas Wright
Thomas Wright

You haven't been here since the start, but its ok, Sup Forums doesn't recall old shows so how would anyone know.

Wyatt Reed
Wyatt Reed

Yeah it's pretty sad.

Noah Jones
Noah Jones

What about the actual quality of the shows? I can recall that TMM was utter shit, but what about W.I.T.C.H?

Benjamin Rivera
Benjamin Rivera

W.I.T.C.H. the show is pretty average from what I can remember, but you could do a lot worse.

Ryder Foster
Ryder Foster

It was literally all over Sup Forums when it aired.
You haven't been here since the start, but its ok, Sup Forums doesn't recall old shows so how would anyone know.
So, it was good? Weird how I remember so little of it.

Nathaniel Murphy
Nathaniel Murphy

he hasn't watched Creamy Mami
Fix that

Jordan Carter
Jordan Carter

Is anyone else finding it hard to try to rank the shows OP has watched? I want to say CCS is the best but I'm unsure.

Nicholas Robinson
Nicholas Robinson

Card Captor Sakura - should I rewatch this?
If you liked it I would recomend rewatching it. The anime is a bit of a monster of the week in the first half, If you want a more condensed story telling I recommend the manga. Another magical girl manga by the same mangaka (CLAMP) is Magic Knight Rayearth, I only read the manga though so I'm not sure how good the anime is.

Fuck - does it say anything that I don't remember the majority of these animes? Does that mean they were shit?
It's a lot of information, OP-kun. It's normal to forget all the details after a while and only retain a vague sense of how much you liked/disliked the show.

If you take recommendation, I would agree with some of the anons above, that you watch Princess Tutu. It does have an overarching plot that gets resolved by the end and is a very atmospheric anime.

Maybe you would like to try out a different genre. Shoujo/Fantasy would be pretty similar in tone. Something like Akatsuki no Yona, Pandora Hearts or Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles.

Hunter Allen
Hunter Allen

It's a lot of information, OP-kun. It's normal to forget all the details after a while and only retain a vague sense of how much you liked/disliked the show.
That's the problem. For CCS, the Mais and W.I.T.C.H, I don't even remember if I liked them or not. All I really remember of my liking of CCS was that it sometimes felt MOTW.

Julian Johnson
Julian Johnson

Sally the Witch is translated?

Eli Lee
Eli Lee

No, the only fully subbed classic (pre Sailor Moon) mahou shoujo tv series are:
Fushigi na Melmo
Hana no Ko Lunlun
Mahou no Tenshi Creamy Mami
Hana no Mahou Tsukai Marybell
Then there is also
Hime-chan no Ribbon
which started while Sailor Moon was still airing.

Cooper Williams
Cooper Williams

Shugo chara is at least recommendable for its cute characters,
Shugo Chara is ONLY recommendable for its characters.

Jeremiah Allen
Jeremiah Allen

So, CCS and Mai used to be big here, right? What made them kick off?

Lincoln Johnson
Lincoln Johnson

The characters are the most important thing about an anime.
I can't think of a single anime that I liked without liking at least one of it's characters but I watched many anime just because of a single character.

Luke Nguyen
Luke Nguyen

Well, I guess in that case the only way to refresh your memory is to rewatch those shows. But it really depends on if you want to watch them or not. Forcing yourself to see them will only give you a negative impression.

John Fisher
John Fisher

Well, I guess in that case the only way to refresh your memory is to rewatch those shows
Fair enough, I'm surprised that Sup Forums didn't just give me the general opinion on some of them.

Oliver Brown
Oliver Brown

CCS is a legitimately good series, that everyone should watch, The Mai's were anime that early /a/4chan were able to watch together

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