Love him or hate him, one cannot deny that Dio was driven to his madness...

Zachary Martinez
Zachary Martinez

Love him or hate him, one cannot deny that Dio was driven to his madness through the violent poverty he was born into and the stressed familial relations in the working class tenements of 19th century London. Yes, Dio would not in fact have become a villain if we lived in a socialist society.

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Jeremiah Morales
Jeremiah Morales

if you're born a different person you're a different person

wow

Hudson White
Hudson White

It's like you don't even remember Speedwagon

Nolan Reyes
Nolan Reyes

I wish Dio was the born evil type
I'm sick of all those freudian excuses trope

Carson Phillips
Carson Phillips

Dio would not in fact have become a villain if we lived in a socialist society.

wew lad autism the thread

Josiah Murphy
Josiah Murphy

Dio was a villain because he was not named Jojo and his adventures were practical and well thought out, not Bizarre.

You could argue just as much that Dio wouldn't have been a villain if he had been born in Canada instead.

Angel Powell
Angel Powell

False. I was raised in very similar conditions to dio but i don't like harming animals and stuff. I can't stand hurting people at all. A guy i used to know always said "Situation doesn't make a person, just reveals what they're really made of" and i always thought it was bullshit until recent experiences in life.

TLDR: no.

Logan Sanders
Logan Sanders

Did you even watch the series?
Speedwagon literally says Dio was born evil

Brandon Green
Brandon Green

Dio was born evil.

Christopher Phillips
Christopher Phillips

I disagree. No one other than Dio himself what Dio's upbringing was like. Just because some other guy from the slum says living in a slum is no excuse doesn't make it true.

Dominic Lopez
Dominic Lopez

he stinks worse than shit
not "he stinks worse than spew!!"

0/10
dropped

Eli Hernandez
Eli Hernandez

His social background doesn't mean shit since he was adopted by a rich gentleman who gave him a top tier education.

He's just a dick.

Logan Reyes
Logan Reyes

Getting adopted doesn't erase previous experiences. His early childhood might've been a stronger formative influence.

Blake Gray
Blake Gray

yes but by the time his dad died he'd already suffered mentally to a breaking point and went absolute psycho.

Wyatt Smith
Wyatt Smith

no excuse
excuse =/= explanation

Important distinction. The discussion had so far been a discussion about facts, not legitimizations. "Excuse" refers to legitimizations, not facts.

Samuel Butler
Samuel Butler

Diego Brandon doesn't have nearly as worse an upbringing as Dio, isn't quite as evil, but is still evil.

Dio was a rotten egg from the beginning. I feel bad for Jonathan, any of the other Jojos wouldn't have been screwed over as badly as Jonathan was.

Jace Torres
Jace Torres

you're completely right, I was talking about justification not explanation. What I've said in OP still stands though. I don't think a character like Dio could exist in a socialist society. And that's not even bringing up the fact that upward mobility was his primary motivation.

Thomas Kelly
Thomas Kelly

His terrible childhood is part of the problem, but probably not the main cause. A lot of people with terrible chldhood don't show psychopathic behavior like Dio. IThere's also a huge "brain problems" factor.

Andrew Evans
Andrew Evans

While I think that Dio was very obviously shaped by his fuckawful father, there's probably something fundamentally wrong with him as a person from the get go, his dad just made it all so much worse.

If his dad wasn't a self-centered, greedy, alcoholic, worthless sack of shit, then maybe Dio would never have met the Joestars or put on the mask, and never become a monstrous being.

I always felt it was a bit of both, that it was the combination of him as a person, and his upbringing. Then the whole thing with the Joestars happen, he puts on the mask and becomes a vampire.

inb4 nobody cares who I was until I put on the mask

Jaxon Powell
Jaxon Powell

Only partially, he was still raised by his father for many years before ending up under George's care.

He's just a dick.
I don't think anyone is arguing otherwise.

Levi Johnson
Levi Johnson

I don't think a character like Dio could exist in a socialist society
Holy shit that's fucking funny that you think that.

Christopher Ward
Christopher Ward

how is Stalin at all like Dio?

Nathan Robinson
Nathan Robinson

Pretty much the opposite really, came from a poor background and was originally optimistic but his years under Lenin and his politicization of the Trotsky succession slowly warped him. Gradually he becomes more and more paranoid as he becomes more convinced everyone is plotting against the USSR, which was not far from the truth in some respects.

Think Walter White but wanting to be a strong leader instead of a respected chemist.

Elijah Young
Elijah Young

Freudian excuses
Children raised by poor asshole criminals becoming assholes is not Freudian, that's just basic environmental influences.

David Edwards
David Edwards

pretty face
sociopathic, paranoid, evil
killed people, usually out of convenience or for very flimsy reasons (see also paranoia)
had lots of power

Xavier Ward
Xavier Ward

they're both dicks
they're both pretty
one has power by being a timestopping vampire while the other has power by being a communist dictator
Those are some really strong similarities you've got there.

Oliver White
Oliver White

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te7bYxkLvVQ

Owen Collins
Owen Collins

He would've still been a villain. He just wouldn't have been enabled to get up to wacky shit like the Stone Mask and later Stands because he wouldn't have been raised as Jonathan's adopted brother had there been better social welfare programs.

At best you'd maybe get a trouble kid who might parlay his intelligence into legitimate but ruthless business dealings.

Ayden Harris
Ayden Harris

Go away Bernie Sanders

Hunter James
Hunter James

Jonathan Cox
Jonathan Cox

Dio would not in fact have become a villain if we lived in a socialist society
t. has never been brought up or lived in a socialist society

Camden Ramirez
Camden Ramirez

ITT Brainwashed americucks

Every time

Carter White
Carter White

who is that?
what anime?

Ayden Edwards
Ayden Edwards

DIO was born evil

A person that was born evil wouldn't take an ass-beating just to keep their dead mother's belongings. Fuck you Speedwagon.

Tyler Cox
Tyler Cox

only Americans are opposed to socialism
You should meet some Cubans, or if they're still alive, Ukrainians who went through the Holodomor back in the day.

Austin White
Austin White

reminder to never trust peasants

Anthony Russell
Anthony Russell

horrible asshole did something human once
That shit doesn't redeem anyone.

Colton Morales
Colton Morales

butthurt eurofags hate america for no reason despite depending of it for everything in their lives

Every time

Isaiah Russell
Isaiah Russell

Dio grows up in Soviet Russia
equally shitty life
same thing happens
I bet you vote for bernie sanders

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