Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1541

Wyatt Perez
Wyatt Perez

Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true

Previous Thread:
/a/thread/141505367#p141505367

All urls found in this thread:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NrPMXN8oT8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI1I_cNVyFc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABNzSNlB6Yw
https://desustorage.org/a/thread/140867700/#140874560
https://data.desustorage.org/a/image/1461/99/1461993788267.png
https://img.fireden.net/a/image/1461/99/1461993788267.png
https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/140955669/#140972097
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76aRKpH3K_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4PKCcGyyx0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXHFr6YlMDo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4PKCcGyyx0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZm_vjtRdsU
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1463306130827.webm
http://pastebin.com/0e0hr7nh
http://core6000.neocities.org/
http://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp
http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DIv5Q4h-nsPcukmKfWBOUhsSjwm5esOz1lJt-8axEDo/edit
http://www.genetickanji.com/
http://gogen-allguide.com/o/omoshiroi.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBnAY4VH9T4
http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/8581775.html
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/215365929
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1956010956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcujQwmEcl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewufRwrayTI
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/2512410601
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/2512410601
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51Usm_wJTn0
http://www.forbes.com/sites/naomirobbins/2012/02/28/misleading-graphs-displaying-a-change-in-one-variable-using-area-or-volume/
Charles Martinez
Charles Martinez

Friendly Reminder

How to tell if something is a shitpost:
calls the community made guide/whatever method a piece of shit with no reasoning given why
insults someone giving helpful advice with no reasoning given why
attempts to create arguments over virtually nothing (eg opinions without facts)
"spam questions" that are easily answered via a 1 second glance at the guide
uses obtuse Japanese fragments interspersed with English to attempt bypass people trying to filter the shitposts
any mention of anime being shit, or "real Japanese"
spells the word as romaji

Robert Russell
Robert Russell

Just started reading 人類は衰退しました. Time to see whether Romeo is as good as everyone says.

Luis Garcia
Luis Garcia

/a/thread/141505367#p141543515
私も分からない

Ayden Barnes
Ayden Barnes

What happened to the guy who used to post
なせば大抵なんとかなる!

Sebastian Cruz
Sebastian Cruz

一人で生きるには弱すぎて
でも誰かといるにはもっと弱い

イス取りゲームに負けたら
床に座ればいい

掛け違えたボタンなんて
そのままほっとけ

充電はしたけど
使ってない電池

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NrPMXN8oT8

Jason Anderson
Jason Anderson

/a/thread/141505367#p141543809
「てんてこ舞い」 huh? thanks
I would have never gotten it on my own

Kayden Green
Kayden Green

I don't know about the original material but the anime was pretty bad

Anthony Lee
Anthony Lee

I killed him

Carson Cruz
Carson Cruz

死んだ

Jace White
Jace White

RIP

Michael Gray
Michael Gray

neck yourself senpai

Samuel Gomez
Samuel Gomez

jintais ok but its also not a eroge which is what romeos best works are

Christopher Martinez
Christopher Martinez

t. someone who hasn't even read it

Daniel Gray
Daniel Gray

So I'm supposed to be N2 with my 4k words? I don't really feel that way.

Christian Collins
Christian Collins

90% of the current shitposts are the anti-anime or anti-kanji ones though, you really should update this.

Xavier Walker
Xavier Walker

He turned into a lazy bum. He's the guide guy, btw.

Leo Moore
Leo Moore

give me a break why would i even bother then

also idk what t. means

Robert Garcia
Robert Garcia

cos u are a memelord

Xavier Evans
Xavier Evans

The first line covers the anti-kanji shit, and the sixth line deals with the anti-anime spam.

Benjamin Price
Benjamin Price

Know how I know you don't read?

Blake Gray
Blake Gray

i mean i liked aura better than jintai just purely because of content and general enjoyability if you wanna talk about his heavenly light novellas

Brayden Hughes
Brayden Hughes

単語覚えるのが嫌いだ。
感じが嫌いだ
辞書が嫌いだ
俺の少ない語彙が嫌いだ
お前が嫌いだ

Jonathan Richardson
Jonathan Richardson

Why, what's wrong with it?

Brayden Howard
Brayden Howard

よしよしいい子いい子

もう大丈夫だ

今回ラップビデオつかないから

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI1I_cNVyFc

Ayden Long
Ayden Long

You may be a bit late levelling criticisms towards the statement you have isolated in your image, considering it has been used in the OP for over two years.

Joshua Jones
Joshua Jones

you mean djt has been one giant running joke for all this time まさか爆笑

William Hill
William Hill

It's not really to grade language skills. It's just a way to visualize how progress in RtK translates to coverage on vocabulary words.

For example, you could potentially build a vocabulary of a thousand words at or below N3 using only the first 700 kanji from RtK.

Ryder Ortiz
Ryder Ortiz

Hurry and study/read what you want to right now because before you know it the day will be over.

Oliver White
Oliver White

I have an acquaintance who says he learned more from 3 weeks vacationing in japan than he did self-studying at home

is there something to this or just hyperbolic bullshit?

Cooper Bailey
Cooper Bailey

なんかダラダラでいいんじゃない

Matthew Reyes
Matthew Reyes

do you really think ive been telling you to hit the streets of tokyo just as a joke

theres literally nothing better you can do unless you happen to know of a japanese community near you that you can throw yourself into

Josiah Rodriguez
Josiah Rodriguez

It's bullshit.

John Evans
John Evans

I have an acquaintance who says he learned more from 3 weeks vacationing in japan than he did self-studying at home
is there something to this or just hyperbolic bullshit?

he wasn't self studying at home properly, too busy drinking, giving lengthy orations to the cat, and beating the wife bloody

Leo Lopez
Leo Lopez

諦めたほうがいいです

Jaxson Harris
Jaxson Harris

I have a cousin living in japan who says he regrets the two years he spent studying in his home country

It's not total bullshit, but not everyone has plane tickets, money, a visa and/or three months of vacation handy out of nowhere just whenever. Otherwise you're really wasting your time by not going, especially if your goal is to eventually speak.

Jack Parker
Jack Parker

I have an uncle who works for Nintendo and he says your acquaintance is full of shit.
On a more serious note, without knowing what, how and for how long this mysterious other person was studying by himself, it's kind of hard to make any real comment.

Hudson Powell
Hudson Powell

but i just want to play visual videogames surely i can just read a couple grammar books and peep a flashcard or two and skip the whole human element and still become fluent

Ian Carter
Ian Carter

My uncle who works for Nintendo and says your uncle is full of shit

Matthew Davis
Matthew Davis

Well played user.

Caleb Walker
Caleb Walker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABNzSNlB6Yw

これでチェックアンドメイトだわ

ごきげんよう

Leo Williams
Leo Williams

he said a little over 2 years of self studying

Grayson Torres
Grayson Torres

don't worry, going to japan is a waste of time, studying by yourself is way more efficient

I learned all the kanji in a single year when it would take a native 15 years, that's literally 15 times more efficient

if I keep up this pace I'll be 15 times more fluent than Abe shinzo

Charles Smith
Charles Smith

Then he was slacking off big time

Kayden Bell
Kayden Bell

I'm trying to get back into learning Japanese with some easy literature or manga; could someone recommend something easy for beginners but enjoyable?

Asher Powell
Asher Powell

There is a massive database in the op.
Also, I had fun playing "Dot Quest" on my iPhone. It took me forever but I could play/learn literally anywhere.

Levi Gonzalez
Levi Gonzalez

Going to Japan doesn't grant you super powers. Plenty of people go there to teach english and never learn the language at all. Your friend either didn't really know much Japanese in the first place or overestimated how much his Japanese improved while he was there.

Dominic Morris
Dominic Morris

Going to Japan doesn't grant you super powers

FUCK

Nicholas Lewis
Nicholas Lewis

おならがでるよ

どうしよう

おにいちゃんたすけて

Michael Jones
Michael Jones

Use plastic wrap to delay

Ian Myers
Ian Myers

I'll check out the database, thanks for the advice!

Jose Hall
Jose Hall

kill yourself to solve your problem permanently

Dominic Moore
Dominic Moore

That doesn't really say anything about what was actually being done. You can use Anki for Japanese vocab for two years, adding 5 new cards a day and reading a volume of manga every three months and still be "studying" for that long. There is also the option of "studying" Genki1 and Genki2 for one year each.

Juan Diaz
Juan Diaz

Yeah well my uncle works for Super Nintendo and he's going to fire your uncle friendo

Aaron Perez
Aaron Perez

so we're uh, going to the くうこう, are we?

Jace Baker
Jace Baker

ラップフィルムの下で大きな気泡が現れた

ネタバレおならが出た

i will if you do first ゆびきり promise all the needles in my eye or w/e

haha wow what a crazy coincidence

Jackson Thompson
Jackson Thompson

i stared into the abyss, and the abyss was delayed

Benjamin Turner
Benjamin Turner

How do you know when to read onyumi vs kunyomi? Just pure memorization?

I get fucked so hard.

Ian Morgan
Ian Morgan

pure memorization
I use dirty memorization myself.

Angel Williams
Angel Williams

jukugo is usually onyomi

Jaxon Sanchez
Jaxon Sanchez

Good reaction image.

Xavier Stewart
Xavier Stewart

Convince me to take J-Cat. I haven an irrational hate for tests because of school so I can't get myself to take a test of my own volition

Landon Clark
Landon Clark

You aren't a a man if you don't even try.

Ethan Jenkins
Ethan Jenkins

Sounds legit. You should contact them

Jonathan Gray
Jonathan Gray

learning jukugo without learning individuals onyomi
so are you chinese or retarded?

Thomas Butler
Thomas Butler

Shit I knew I was forgetting something

Zachary Gutierrez
Zachary Gutierrez

the rule is that 2 kanji (jukugo) next to eachother you use their onyomi
there are exceptions to this, but most often the exceptions are very common words that you'll end up learning through sheer exposure

Luis Gray
Luis Gray

It would be fun. The chart you get at the end is pretty. You can join the cool J-Cat club with the rest of us senpai.

Sebastian Ward
Sebastian Ward

it's short as shit

registering literally takes longer than taking it, and I'm not exaggerating

Christopher Russell
Christopher Russell

to anyone struggling with the kore2k/6k

I recommending adding cards to it with the onyomi's of jukugo you come across in the kore deck.
I went from being stagnant for months to being able to plow through 20 cards a day easily in 20 mins.

It takes a lot of prep work each week but it's totally worth it.

I look up new word's kanji on kanjidamage; then I take the 3-5-star jukugo listed on the website, and then find them in my anki deck and move them to the front.
This way I learn vocab while simultaneously using and reinforcing the onyomi pronunciations I learned.

So after learning:
実 jitsu's onyomi - I'll move all of these kanji to the front:

真 (really) + 実 (truth) = 真実 (the truth)
現 (present time) + 実 (truth) = 現実 (reality)
事 (action/ incident) + 実 (truth) = 事実 (fact)

Robert Reed
Robert Reed

i hate bitches though
Every time. I wonder where Nobu is at now. It's hard to find fellow men of culture.

Gavin Green
Gavin Green

This is why the Core10k deck is better: it is arranged to introduce different readings of the same kanji so by the time you work through them, you already have a basic intuition of how unknown words are at least read. Not as effective as individually studying kanji alongside, but it saves time having to alter the 2k/6k deck.

Jordan Butler
Jordan Butler

you will be sorry when you miss this big chance

Parker Jackson
Parker Jackson

Alright thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

Just gotta read more I guess.

William Anderson
William Anderson

A lot of people say it takes like 40 minutes. That's still kind of long. Maybe I'll try it tonight though

Wyatt Peterson
Wyatt Peterson

aww shit I wish I knew about that deck sooner.
I'm not sure I have it in me to switch decks this deep into it.

Jacob Parker
Jacob Parker

has imouto finally run out of 苺ましまろ images

Dylan Rivera
Dylan Rivera

It isn't really a huge deal. If you are adding 20 new words a day, after six months of consistent review most of those reading issues shouldn't big overwhelming. At the end of the day it is a matter of fine tuning something that already works pretty damn well to begin with.

Gavin Jenkins
Gavin Jenkins

anyone switch from the 2k/6k to the 10k?

any advice for switching?
There's not like a deck combining process or something, is there?

Samuel Robinson
Samuel Robinson

Has anyone from these threads ever become fluent? Or is it just beginners posting advice from their 3 weeks of learning?

Julian Richardson
Julian Richardson

I'm thinking I should switch.
Is the 10k deck better/more accurate than the 6k deck or is it just the organization that's better?
I'm only around 700 cards deep into this deck. So if the other deck is a significant upgrade from this one then I'd rather switch now while I'm not that deep into it.

also do you use the DoJG deck? I'm just trying it out with the default settings and it's pretty unusable atm.

Nathan Jenkins
Nathan Jenkins

the joke is actually that everyone is fluent 爆笑

Kayden Moore
Kayden Moore

Not me

Leo Green
Leo Green

Has anyone from these threads ever become fluent?
yeah imouto can now fill out restraining orders in english

Angel Young
Angel Young

There's not like a deck combining process or something, is there?
It is matter of matching fields, exporting and importing. An user provided a diagrammatic set of instructions not long ago.
I'm trying to find it in the archive at the moment.

also do you use the DoJG deck?
Yeah. It's been the best thing for my Japanese.
I'm just trying it out with the default settings and it's pretty unusable atm.
Not really sure what you mean, but what I did was split the deck into two seperate decks, based on card types -keeping recognition cards in one deck and the cloze delete cards in another- and review them separately. New cards are reviewed from recognition cards first, reading through everything on the card, followed by the cloze delete cards, testing my recall of what I just read, more or less. On subsequent reviews I review the cloze delete deck first then move onto reviewing the recognition cards after, reading through all the example sentences (but rarely bother re-reading through the notes, unless I really need to). For any new cards on the day, I switch back to the original reviewing order of recognition then cloze.

Hudson White
Hudson White

yee everyone except u

Daniel Gutierrez
Daniel Gutierrez

I've never taken any formal japanese classes, but I spent a few months in Japan and was actually very surprised at how well I could communicate with non-english speakers.
As an example, I went to club mogra there - befriended a group of japanese vocaloid fans - and went after with them to a special miku karaoke thing. They even helped me figure out a capsule hotel to stay in for the night. All without speaking a word of English.
My japanese is still pretty shit though; I'm NOT fluent by any means, but just because you're not fluent doesn't mean what you know isn't helpful/useful.

Nathan Evans
Nathan Evans

And what do you fucking know, for some reason that exact post with the image is broken:
https://desustorage.org/a/thread/140867700/#140874560
https://data.desustorage.org/a/image/1461/99/1461993788267.png

Gavin Lopez
Gavin Lopez

Turns out Fireden's data has the image.
https://img.fireden.net/a/image/1461/99/1461993788267.png

Jace Scott
Jace Scott

oh sweet, thanks so much

Blake Diaz
Blake Diaz

Namasensei?

Leo Turner
Leo Turner

I took it a year ago. I'm gonna take it again soon to gauge my progress.

Nathan Price
Nathan Price

that's not imouto

Asher Jackson
Asher Jackson

I'd upload my collection of 苺 images but I don't want to encourage the Finfag.

It might be useful to make a textural version or a more permanent upload of the image and request to have it added to the guide in some capacity. I'd imagine there are a lot of anons who would happily add the remaining 4k words from core10k into their core2k/6k decks if they knew how to do it this easily.

Anthony Reed
Anthony Reed

miku dou omou -- miku daisuki desu

isshoni karaoke ni ikou -- iku iku zettai iku

aah tanoshikatta -- neru basho doko ga iindesuka

kono dobu wa doudai -- iine nippon sugee arigato oyasumi

(after nighty nights) ano gaijin wa nandayo 爆笑

Ethan Rivera
Ethan Rivera

偽者?

Ian Fisher
Ian Fisher

Not really sure what you mean, but what I did was split the deck into two seperate decks, based on card types -keeping recognition cards in one deck and the cloze delete cards in another- and review them separately.

I just recently started looking at this deck, and I don't really see a guide for "how to use" the deck.
I want to copy how you learn using this deck but I'm a little bit confused with the process. So you have 2 separate decks one with each card type. What exactly is the point of this? Also, the decks aren't going to talk to eachother, so if you forget a piece of info in deck1, shouldn't deck1 then tell deck2 that you forgot "XX" grammer-fact?

Additionally, it seems as though they give kanji without furigana. I'm really only recently getting around to learning kanji, so my vocab base is much larger than my kanji base. Does not knowing the meaning/pronounciation of a kanji ever get in the way of learning for you?
Also are the grammer points always "comprehensive" - ie, are you easily able to learn/figure out the grammer point if it's something you haven't seen before? (so, like, do you ever get stuck and have to go back to a textbook to figure out the grammer point?)

Easton Morris
Easton Morris

yes my japanese is basically on that level. But for the record, they wanted me to do karaoke with them.
I said I had a train to catch, but that I would go with them if I could figure out how to get a hotel for the night, so they helped me find a hotel.

I think you underestimate how cool they see americans

Jaxson Sanchez
Jaxson Sanchez

everyone is different but im sure the people at mikufest arent gonna be outwardly racist and shitty after all they jerk off to a virtual idol lol

watch out for the guys who pretend to be nice and then say rude things behind your back later to their friends -- not that its even possible to be totally aware of it

Jordan Gonzalez
Jordan Gonzalez

veryone is different but im sure the people at mikufest arent gonna be outwardly racist and shitty

one of their most endearing qualities to me is how racist they are... well not openly
my country and a lot of other western countries are trying too hard to be 'accepting' and 'careful' around minorities, drives me batty
dont even start on 3rd wave feminism

Kevin Wilson
Kevin Wilson

Recognising that race exists != racism

Jack Fisher
Jack Fisher

and I don't really see a guide for "how to use" the deck.
Isn't it common sense?

I want to copy how you learn using this deck but I'm a little bit confused with the process.
I'll try to explain it better, my bad. Actually, here is the post I made a little while ago explaining how I use it. Tell me if this has enough explanatory power:
https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/140955669/#140972097

Additionally, it seems as though they give kanji without furigana. I'm really only recently getting around to learning kanji, so my vocab base is much larger than my kanji base. Does not knowing the meaning/pronounciation of a kanji ever get in the way of learning for you?
I have been taking unknown words as I encounter them and add them to a separate misc vocab deck, but if you are reviewing the cards on a computer there is always the option of copy/pasting the words you don't understand into jisho or some dictionary program. I also study kanji in isolation alongside vocab, so there is that.

Also are the grammer points always "comprehensive" - ie, are you easily able to learn/figure out the grammer point if it's something you haven't seen before?
Oh yeah man, fucking very much so. The way the examples are laid out and described makes them really easy to understand. I think this is probably the shining point of the Dictionary of Japanese Grammar book series.
so, like, do you ever get stuck and have to go back to a textbook to figure out the grammer point?
I've yet to come across a textbook which explains these structures as well as the DoJG series, so no.

Asher Sullivan
Asher Sullivan

What can I use to improve my grammar, specifically? All I've got is Tae Kim so far, and "just read stuff" doesn't help because I don't understand why grammar stuff e.g. こと is there in the first place

Logan Jones
Logan Jones

Just read stuff

Just read stuff

Just read stuff

David Bell
David Bell

i was using TK and its ok but added DoJG deck, its helping too
if you've read all of TK try and read some stuff here:
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/
it wasn't that much of a challenge for me, and im fresh af

Nathaniel Jones
Nathaniel Jones

thanks lad

Lucas Hughes
Lucas Hughes

did someone say fresh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76aRKpH3K_I

Carson Scott
Carson Scott

is おしっこ sometimes uses to refer to cum?

Aaron Lee
Aaron Lee

i hope not that would be in pretty bad taste

Carter Adams
Carter Adams

いつもそうさ
いつもsosa

i'm a trap god

Bentley Kelly
Bentley Kelly

guy looks like a lesbian asian sideshow bob

James Cook
James Cook

ほんらいならわしが「やんちゃして」

ってきこえるよ

てんてこまいは、なんかとにかく忙しく振り回されるひょうげんだよ。がんばっておにいちゃん

Brody Price
Brody Price

you think there's a market in japan for gaijin rappers
i feel like i could change the game

Daniel Fisher
Daniel Fisher

if you like trap check out this banger i see you tho dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4PKCcGyyx0

sorry im already the king of the gaijin rap game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXHFr6YlMDo

Carson Rogers
Carson Rogers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4PKCcGyyx0
that's my theme song when i post in DJT

Colton Rogers
Colton Rogers

i know right lmao

Gabriel Nguyen
Gabriel Nguyen

釣りjunkie mofacka!!!!

Blake Turner
Blake Turner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZm_vjtRdsU

this song is so bad it's amazing

Grayson Ramirez
Grayson Ramirez

i cant shit on anyone from kawasaki but that vid is kinda ちょっと lol

Thomas Hill
Thomas Hill

カレーつくりたいな

おにいちゃんはなにカレーがたべたい?

Samuel Morgan
Samuel Morgan

「いってぇ……。テメエ、靴になんか仕込んでやがるな!」

I don't know if I should translate テメエ to "you bastard" since the one talking is refering to a girl.
The original translator TL'ed it as just "You!".
Any thoughts?

Matthew Garcia
Matthew Garcia

いもうとカレー

youll never be able to translate for fuck if youre stuck on shit like てめえ

just say something that makes sense with how youve voiced the chara thusfar and move on to bigger and brighter things to get hung up on

Kayden Long
Kayden Long

Considering your lacking knowledge and skill, you need to give up on translating.

Provided you're actually translating something and aren't speaking just hypothetically. If you are, then sorry for underestimating your wit.

Connor Campbell
Connor Campbell

I'm not the TL, I'm the editor. Obviously because my jap skills are lacking. But yeah, this character calling someone a bastard is totally something he would do.

Juan Jenkins
Juan Jenkins

change it to "rat whore"

Easton Turner
Easton Turner

mahurry
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1463306130827.webm

Brody Perry
Brody Perry

seconding rat whore

Jonathan Lewis
Jonathan Lewis

Dude we're not mangastream.

Kayden Bell
Kayden Bell

I'm not the TL, I'm the editor.
well what genre is it? is it shonen jump shit? a high-concept seinen? porn?

Grayson Ortiz
Grayson Ortiz

what genre is it?
The onii-sama genre

Robert Perry
Robert Perry

Okay yeah definitely "rat whore"

Jaxson Russell
Jaxson Russell

You're gonna get me fucking lynched by her rabid fans, user.

Jackson Phillips
Jackson Phillips

The mods banned the shitposter for 30 days yesterday, but then he came back with a new IP and no amount of reports seemed to get them to do anything about him.

For a moment I thought the mods had decided to moderate these threads, but I guess it was just a one off.

Dominic Brooks
Dominic Brooks

are those fucking pubes

thanks for the heads up on the latest meta shit with your off topic post

Camden Diaz
Camden Diaz

2200 kanji only gives you 8000 words from JLPT vocab
wot

Is the amount of JLPT vocab really small or something even at N1?

Lucas Rivera
Lucas Rivera

手前
自分のことをかなり丁寧にいうときにつかってた時代もあるんじゃないかなあとおもうんだけど、なぜか今では相手にふっかけるときもつかうよ
貴様
これは相手のことをかなり丁寧にいうときにつかってた時代もあったんだけど、なぜか今では相手にふっかけるときにつかうよ。

手前、貴様は、おとこことばなので、おとこしかつかわないよ

カニバリズムはんたい

Dominic Cox
Dominic Cox

benny
funnily enough the japanese in that pic is still better than he'll ever be at it

Christopher Gray
Christopher Gray

いもうとの味じゃ

Easton Ramirez
Easton Ramirez

It's been criticized a lot over those two years though, this is hardly the first time it's been brought up

Thomas Gomez
Thomas Gomez

this is hardly the first time it's been brought up
That wasn't really the point. It's more to the point that it's been that way for over two years and chances are it will stay that way for another two years. Criticising something that far after the fact is pretty pointless unless the user is going to make a different version and post it. The user who ends up making these threads has never bothered to make any changes so it's clear that he doesn't care.

Brayden Edwards
Brayden Edwards

カニバリズムはんたい
偏見をもっているね、お前は
十人十色をわかるがいい

Parker Martin
Parker Martin

Is there an easy way to tell 口 and ロ apart?

For example whenever I see 口コミ, I read it "rokomi" at first.

Charles Collins
Charles Collins

context and experience

Joshua Cook
Joshua Cook

Anyone got a good card type to share?

Levi Nguyen
Levi Nguyen

ろ usually looks square whereas 口 in a lot of fonts is slightly higher than wider and has little serif markings at the bottom, where the first and second strokes end. That and kanji are often slightly larger than kana in print.

What are you looking to do with it? It kind of varies for each person.

Henry Bennett
Henry Bennett

I'm just trying to get into giving my mining deck a better look, but the Anki tutorials and screenshots I found with google images are kinda lack luster so I thought I'd use a finished one as baseline and then make minor changes to fit my taste

Jason Lewis
Jason Lewis

personally involved with
なにそれ、俺はへんたいみたい

Isaac Watson
Isaac Watson

Can someone post that site that has all the core 2k6k vocab in order

Anthony Anderson
Anthony Anderson

Here's mine: http://pastebin.com/0e0hr7nh

Isaiah Gray
Isaiah Gray

This?
http://core6000.neocities.org/

Robert Jackson
Robert Jackson

that looks SO good but the last time i changed fonts i failed some pretty old matures, feelsbatman

Alexander Johnson
Alexander Johnson

Thanks, exactly what I was looking for

Andrew James
Andrew James

たまごどうふたべたい

ちゃわんむしじゃなくって、たまごどうふだよ

Kevin Campbell
Kevin Campbell

http://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp
http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp
Anki uses HTML and CSS for layout and styling.

Brayden Lopez
Brayden Lopez

I came here to learn the language of anime, not the language of computers

thanks, the CSS Align section helped me fix my problem

Nolan Collins
Nolan Collins

CSS is retarded, but it's what we're stuck with at the moment. Check out stackexchange if you wan to see just how spastic people can get with it.

Kayden Ortiz
Kayden Ortiz

私日本人です日本語教えるです?

Nolan Jones
Nolan Jones

I love how DOBJG uses romanji, but the intermediate and advanced books stopped with it. Is there any way to OCR and automatically convert it? Or maybe automatically convert the anki deck to romanji? Having to learn kanas and kanjis is really killing my motivation, I'm trying to defer it until I become fluent enough in grammar that I can read and have fun.

Levi Kelly
Levi Kelly

Why is the ideal Japanese woman called Yamato Nakadashi?

Zachary Garcia
Zachary Garcia

Learning the kana takes like 4 hours and kanji is best studied alongside grammar. I don't think there's any tool aimed towards helping people learn Japanese without the use of the Japanese writing system simply because it's terribly sub optimal.

inb4
romanji
replying

Blake Martin
Blake Martin

post stats

Jace Robinson
Jace Robinson

Because if there's anything Japanese men love more than Japan, it's nakadashi.

William Gomez
William Gomez

Unfortunately the Kanji Grid add-on doesn't work right with the 10K deck for some reason.

Jack Williams
Jack Williams

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DIv5Q4h-nsPcukmKfWBOUhsSjwm5esOz1lJt-8axEDo/edit

glhf

Angel King
Angel King

Has anyone actually used this site?

http://www.genetickanji.com/

It's linked in the guide but I've never seen it mentioned in the threads. The guide says it's "slightly underdeveloped", but that description could be fairly out of date by now for all I know.

Chase Lopez
Chase Lopez

last tweet was in 2013

Looks fine aside from missing a bunch of Kanji

Jackson Adams
Jackson Adams

The kanas are the grammar. If you're struggling learning the kanas/don't want to learn them, Japanese probably isn't for you. Learning in romanji is only going to slow you down, as well as hurt your ability to see patterns/learn the symbols as you'll look at the roman letters more than the kanas.

Jackson Smith
Jackson Smith

What the hell user, that's like saying that the number digits are the math.

Noah Ramirez
Noah Ramirez

I mean they are, literally all math is the direct result of what happens after you have at least two possible stats of value.

Lucas Cook
Lucas Cook

I'm pretty sure the problem he's referring to is specific to this OP image and it should be glaringly obvious. He even isolated it for you and you're still missing it.

Maybe you should spend more time reading books and less time making OP images.

Xavier Cook
Xavier Cook

There's no need for analogies. He said that spelling is grammar. Which is just false.

Ian Bennett
Ian Bennett

That line is directly ripped from the classic one, though.

Dominic Cook
Dominic Cook

You use the kanas as noun/particle stamps, unless you think these two sentences are the same.

私は毎日図書館で日本語を勉強します。
私は毎日図書館に日本語を勉強します。

Julian Cooper
Julian Cooper

Interesting read there about "How I passed JLPT1 in 2 years"

Cameron Sanchez
Cameron Sanchez

You are correct.
Irrelevant example. Saying that "kana is grammar" is a great starter for an unnecessary discussion. "Kana is grammar" is just a weird statement.

Jose Ramirez
Jose Ramirez

You could learn that using romaji.
"toshokan de nihongo"
"toshokan ni nihongo"
Again, learning how to spell doesn't teach you grammar.

Nolan Jackson
Nolan Jackson

What does the second sentence mean?

Aiden Clark
Aiden Clark

gibberish

Levi Rogers
Levi Rogers

It's an incorrect sentence. The first one is correct.

Luke Phillips
Luke Phillips

I use the library everyday to study wap
everyday i look on in horror as the library uses the japanese language to study

Jeremiah Thomas
Jeremiah Thomas

Japanese, the only language where the more I learn and the less crutches I use the less I understand.

Why keep going? Where's my motivation?

Brayden Watson
Brayden Watson

everyone in your family and your friends are getting left in the dust, thats why
you're miles ahead of them by now

Dominic Baker
Dominic Baker

Why keep going? Where's my motivation?
pic related

Asher Foster
Asher Foster

Personally my motivation is that it's a fun hobby, and gives me an excuse to blow off doing my linear algebra.

Easton Torres
Easton Torres

Is there some story behind the German polandball?

Liam Gutierrez
Liam Gutierrez

10/10
I've already had the setup file waiting for the day I can read fluently

Dominic Cox
Dominic Cox

Damn the potential "られる" conjugation is annoying to say

Nicholas White
Nicholas White

lalelu

that was easy

Logan Anderson
Logan Anderson

Feels good when you say it enough for it to just become mouth muscle memory

I love the way Japanese R sounds

Christopher Rodriguez
Christopher Rodriguez

do it for the waifus user.

Jace Powell
Jace Powell

OPの精液の鬼は誰?

Angel Adams
Angel Adams

Wouldn't 悪魔 work better?

Hunter White
Hunter White

I personally would use 精液魔

Samuel Peterson
Samuel Peterson

anglo problems

David Rogers
David Rogers

Learning Japanese is like climbing a very long staircase. If you try to do too much at the beginning, you won't have much energy and will be hurting later on trying to climb the very same number of steps the next day. It's not about how fast you can climb to a certain numbered step in the beginning, it's about being willing to climb a minimum number of steps everyday. Once you have turned it into a habit, climbing that minimum amount of steps becomes so much easier. Language learning is about being consistent in the end.

The Japanese have a saying: 七転び八起き 「ななころびやおき」 "Fall down 7 times, get up 8"

Don't be afraid to make mistakes! The worst you'll do is fall over, but you can always pick yourself back up. Beginners often start learning the language full of fire and determination, but quickly fizzle out due to fear of making mistakes. Look forward to making mistakes and learning from them instead. Even if climbing just a few steps feels painful, difficult, slow going and unsatisfying in the beginning, if you always stick it out, every day it becomes easier, and you definitely will achieve your goals!

Cameron Hill
Cameron Hill

What's the difference between 「遅いんじゃない?」 and 「遅くないの?」

Luis Jenkins
Luis Jenkins

read this.

Leo Wood
Leo Wood

thank you

William Brooks
William Brooks

She has a real name, but...

Dominic Peterson
Dominic Peterson

なんでやねん!

Kevin Bennett
Kevin Bennett

Springdaywalk-san is super cute.

Connor James
Connor James

ありがと

Hunter Smith
Hunter Smith

This is what you can look forward to. Intense spoilers btw. Main plot only though, there's much more side content and worldbuilding in the game.

In the village of Monobeno, where the game takes place, exists a barrier that keeps two versions of Monobeno apart, one for humans and youkai that can live with humans, one for youkai that can't or don't want to be in the human world. Same barrier also keeps powerful youkai from outside world from coming to Monobeno.

When the protagonist, Tooru, was to be born, his father learned from divination that both Tooru and the mother will die during childbirth. To prevent this the father called in a good-fortune youkai, the heroine Sumi. To ensure she (and her new umbrella youkai companion Hishakaku) will be able to enter Monobeno, Tooru's father sabotaged the barrier just a little bit. Ultimately this makes Tooru feel guilt for what happens next.

Later Natsuha is born and one day is bullied and wanders into the place where the barrier is maintained using sacred water called お留め水 (word play for 乙女水). She unknowingly drinks it. The purpose of the sacred water is stabilization (of the barrier to its natural state) so it also stabilizes Natsuha to her natural state. This is important cause it at the conclusions of routes it becomes clear Natsuha has hereditary rapid-aging diseasef from her mother, but お留め水 makes sure she ages normally.

But noone initially knows any of this. Tooru and Natsuha's father and mother eventually die and Tooru and Natsuha move to Saitama, where Tooru studies to become a doctor, inspired by his osananajimi Alice's father. The game starts when Tooru and Natsuha return to Monobeno after few years, for various reasons Natsuha's emotional state gets bad, this affects お留め水 and it function and makes Natsuha's rapid-aging disease active again.

Luis Parker
Luis Parker

エレベーター
エスカレーター

William Reyes
William Reyes

I don't know why you felt the need to post this. No one asked.

Adrian Hernandez
Adrian Hernandez

Try not looking.

Connor Cook
Connor Cook

I didn't. Still, no reason to post.

Brody Turner
Brody Turner

Temptation.

Connor Thomas
Connor Thomas

do they really have a saying like that or is でんぱさんは妨害ことがある

Kayden Rodriguez
Kayden Rodriguez

So, is it good?

Cooper Lee
Cooper Lee

やっと俺がこんなことを読めるになった

Luke Young
Luke Young

It's not only a problem for anglos. In my language the R is pronounced as it is in Japanese, but I'll be damned if I ever learned to pronounce it properly.
Instead I'm stuck with a French-like R.

Ethan Morales
Ethan Morales

Yeah, sure.

Christopher Brown
Christopher Brown

られる
La~ Le~ Lu~ Nur der Mann im Mond. Schaut. Zu.
Wenn die kleinen Ba~by~ schla~fen.
Drum schlaf auch du.

Luke Williams
Luke Williams

Why are these pictures so horrible and yet so good at the same time

Carson Davis
Carson Davis

What's her face going to be like after the last frame when you tell her that you were only joking?
Followed by "nah, I actually wasn't".

Angel Edwards
Angel Edwards

こんな顔みたいかな

Luis Nguyen
Luis Nguyen

Does anyone know a good website that talks about the origin and history of words and expressions? Like how they ended up being formed the way they are and such?

David Ward
David Ward

That's called "etymology".

Elijah Cruz
Elijah Cruz

You don't see it.
Read more.

Evan Long
Evan Long

google word + 語源 or something.

Logan Parker
Logan Parker

Ah thanks, think I found some good sites using that

I'll make sure to try this too

Parker Smith
Parker Smith

http://gogen-allguide.com/o/omoshiroi.html

Charles Phillips
Charles Phillips

Is /djt/ excited for Summer?

Benjamin Moore
Benjamin Moore

That's pretty perfect shame it takes me so long to read shit like that

Angel Stewart
Angel Stewart

No I hate it anything above 20°C and I start to die of a heat stroke

Easton Gonzalez
Easton Gonzalez

why does this beginner keep posting screenshots of early core 6k vocab?

Jordan Roberts
Jordan Roberts

Why don't you just ask me personally?

John Brooks
John Brooks

Nah, summer is shit.

Josiah Bailey
Josiah Bailey

why do you keep posting screenshots of early core 6k vocab?

Wyatt Ward
Wyatt Ward

I fucking hate summer

Eli Gomez
Eli Gomez

no fuck summer
i live in aus its baby raping jesus down here, i want to move to mcmurdo station

Carson King
Carson King

Because I have a fetish for stock images placed in conjunction with awkward phrases.

Carson Ward
Carson Ward

みゆが1じ半からバイトいくから
それくらいに迎えにきてくれんかなァァ

kanji
みゆが1時半からバイト行くから
それくらいに迎えに来てくれんかなァァ

Ian Diaz
Ian Diaz

oh ok thanks

Jack Gray
Jack Gray

でもまぁ夏は嫌いかな

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBnAY4VH9T4

Carson Adams
Carson Adams

Summer can only improve this thread.

Angel Torres
Angel Torres

and it should be glaringly obvious
Care to point it out?

Cameron Cox
Cameron Cox

implying its objectively wrong
It's a little irritating but who cares

Jonathan Murphy
Jonathan Murphy

What is wrong, though? It's the same as it's always been.

Aiden Foster
Aiden Foster

ごめんなさいですわ

Daniel Wilson
Daniel Wilson

I used the JLPT lists from Tagaini Jisho, which total just over 8000 items. After completing RtK about 95% of these are covered. I believe these lists were compiled from the 出題基準, which is no longer provided in the current format, and which covered only about 80% of what might show up on the test (see Wikipedia).

Benjamin Johnson
Benjamin Johnson

We should remove RTK from the guide, it's outclassed in every way by kanjidamage. Same with TK, just change it to imabi.

Caleb Sanders
Caleb Sanders

And both of them are outclassed by vocab study.

Aiden Price
Aiden Price

and vocab study is outclassed by giving up

Ayden Perry
Ayden Perry

vocabfags will defend this

Eli Sullivan
Eli Sullivan

It's the same as it's always been.
Time to read a book, Ankidrone.

Michael Murphy
Michael Murphy

Here is your response.
Try to enjoy the rest of your life.

Brayden Long
Brayden Long

We should remove RTK from the guide, it's outclassed in every way by kanjidamage.
How so?

I considered trying kanjidamage but after skimming through some of the pages I didn't like how infantile it was. It also seemed really American-centric in its references which is fine if you're a burgerking but otherwise it's alienating and useless.

Jason Russell
Jason Russell

Even if you're a subhuman from Europe or Asia, you should still embrace the superior American culture.

Ethan Rogers
Ethan Rogers

American culture
撞着語法

Jason Gomez
Jason Gomez

夏より冬が好きだ

Colton Nelson
Colton Nelson

A deep thinker. We get it.

Jose Collins
Jose Collins

He's shitposting. Just don't give him attention.

Dominic Martinez
Dominic Martinez

The fact that it is vertical is different, and the placement of the period is wrong. That's the only thing I can think of.

Alexander Wright
Alexander Wright

worst girl
best menu voice

Aaron Ward
Aaron Ward

go on

Lucas Adams
Lucas Adams

How useful is RTK to someone who is already 1250+ words into Core?

I feel like I maybe need it.

Brayden Rodriguez
Brayden Rodriguez

It's pretty useful for word retention

Benjamin Cruz
Benjamin Cruz

I don't see a objective error but the くれたまえ is weird anime speak, if you talk like that in real life you'd get laughed at.

Tyler Wright
Tyler Wright

It's a meme.

Wanna up your retention? Take a couple kanji you had difficulty with in your anki session, look them up on jisho and maybe even write them down on paper / make mnemonics. This does the same job as RTK, except you only use it for things you have problems with, instead of forcing it for every single babby kanji which is a waste of time.

Nolan Murphy
Nolan Murphy

I'm pretty sure he's either talking about the period like I said here or that he's just shitposting.

The sentence itself has been in the OP forever and everyone knows it's anime speak.

Carter Carter
Carter Carter

Can't wait for this game to translated once. I played through it twice by now, but it's so rarely discussed on Sup Forums that I can never talk to people about it.

Jace James
Jace James

If you can read Japanese, why not discuss it with Japanese people?

Mason Ward
Mason Ward

They banned most of the proxies on 2ch, and I never really bothered to look for other boards.

Ryder King
Ryder King

Is this what N1 looks like?

Logan Wood
Logan Wood

Looks N3 to me.

Jeremiah Cook
Jeremiah Cook

Baldr Sky is probably below N1. It's somewhat average difficulty among VNs.

Mason Martinez
Mason Martinez

Thanks, my niggers

Ryan Thomas
Ryan Thomas

Pretty much everyone here probably already knows it anyway and knows about the alternatives, but since I just read an article about it, I feel like at least mentioning it.

"さようなら" is dead. It's practically not used anymore outside of saying goodbye to teachers at school.

Jacob Hill
Jacob Hill

wut?

Xavier Brooks
Xavier Brooks

It implies the time until you meet again is extremely long or that you will never meet again.

That's why またね, じゃあね and the likes are the expressions that are actually used.

Jason Walker
Jason Walker

Isn't that how it's always been? The way your post read made it sound like it's a new thing

Jacob Stewart
Jacob Stewart

It's not a particularly new thing, but the development is continuing.

Nolan Foster
Nolan Foster

さようがない

Gabriel Sullivan
Gabriel Sullivan

でもどうしてですか

Easton Moore
Easton Moore

Not quite so easy I think, I passed N2 in december but I don't know the first two compounds in the last line without looking them up. I can kind of guess the meaning based on the context and I think I've seen them before but I don't know the reading etc.

Isaiah Taylor
Isaiah Taylor

but since I just read an article about it
Link?

Colton Reyes
Colton Reyes

It's true. I've seen it used more often as 左様 by pretentious writers than the actual phrase.

Julian Brown
Julian Brown

It's just dumb to judge native material by JLPT levels. They are written for Japanese people and therefore pretty much any average VN will contain N1 words and N1 grammar and maybe some stuff that's beyond N1.

Tyler White
Tyler White

http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/8581775.html

Lucas Diaz
Lucas Diaz

Nobody just uses 左様 to say goodbye they use さようですか as an polite そうですか

Joseph Roberts
Joseph Roberts

Sure, but I had the impression they was mostly talking about that specific sentence

Leo Collins
Leo Collins

洗わされない汗まみれおっぱい。

これは一番正確の翻訳ですか?

Jeremiah Evans
Jeremiah Evans

I'm sure there's something in that sentence that isn't in the N2 list too. Maybe 春先, maybe the use of にして

Keep in mind that if there are 80% who say they don't usually use it that means there are 20% that do still use it. Not saying you should use it yourself but just don't act all confused if someone says さよなら to you (unless it's a pretty girl, in which case they are definitely using it to tell you they never plan to see you again and it is not at all just your social anxiety making you nervous)

Easton Gomez
Easton Gomez

Speaking of which, I don't think there is an official vocab list for specific JLPT levels are there? Do you think they have an internal one or do they just arbitrarily choose words they think is approximately the right difficulty?

Andrew Jackson
Andrew Jackson

I'm pretty sure there is an official list, but they are allowed to use some words outside the list. I'm not completely sure how it works I suppose. But I assume they can't have a 読解 paragraph where 40% of the words are outside the list for that level.

Maybe there was just an official list for the old JLPT levels.

Charles Peterson
Charles Peterson

あっっっっつううぅぅ

やっぱ夏には勉強しにくくなるね

Luis Garcia
Luis Garcia

何の出鱈目言ってんだ
未だ春だろ

Jordan Powell
Jordan Powell

It was the strongest in the beginning and slowed down towards the end but the anime is fantastic.

Jayden Collins
Jayden Collins

A thing I have been wondering about:

Apparently おめでとう comes from お目出度う, right?
Although I just noticed that it is marked as ateji, so it's probably a little more complicated.
What is it with "the eyes coming out" there? That seems more like an expression of surprise than a congratulation.

Leo Moore
Leo Moore

Sure fucking feels like summer

Brody Phillips
Brody Phillips

わたしの魔術は狙いが甘い。
Does うまい with this kanji generally mean bad at?

Mason Ortiz
Mason Ortiz

Never seen うまい with that kanji, it's probably あまい and means naive or too optimistic.

Anthony Reyes
Anthony Reyes

この断言と同意しますか?

Levi Wright
Levi Wright

Yeah, user. When it's using that reading it means bad at.

Ian Evans
Ian Evans

当て字 means a word uses kanji only because of their readings or only because of their meaning. In this case the kanji in お目出度う is only used because of their readings. An example of a word using kanji only because of their meaning would be 煙草

Nathan Foster
Nathan Foster

source?

Juan Myers
Juan Myers

Thanks user
F/SN

Jacob Gutierrez
Jacob Gutierrez

good/sweet same thing xd

Gabriel Anderson
Gabriel Anderson

>お留め水 (word play for 乙女水)
Haha, how did I read the entire game and never realise this.

Dominic Powell
Dominic Powell

全然。僕はSJWなんですからね。
要するに、男は男になろうとしなければ男じゃないというの観念は毒性的な男性性だけですと思います。

Ryder Brown
Ryder Brown

Which deck are you meant to use with RTK? The guide says
Do not use the spaced-repetition-system on Koohii; Anki is superior.
but doesn't suggest any particular deck.

The best rated RTK deck I found on the Anki site was this one:
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/215365929
But there's also a deck in the mega folder for the 6th edition PDF of RTK volume 1.

Jeremiah Moore
Jeremiah Moore

I used the nihongoshark one.

Hudson Hill
Hudson Hill

僕はSJWなんです
そこで読み止めた

Austin Thomas
Austin Thomas

So I met up with my language exchange friend today and we ended up playing Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes in Japanese. I'm down to the last module and he tells me それなら、最初を切って。Except I misheard him and thought he said 最後. Blew the fuck up and lost it.

Cameron Lewis
Cameron Lewis

The one in the CoR is good. The AnkiWeb deck is for the 5th edition. You need to follow the book too.

Jeremiah Perry
Jeremiah Perry

This one?
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1956010956

The AnkiWeb deck is for the 5th edition.
There's a 6th edition version of the deck there too. I didn't notice it when I first skimmed through the shared decks page.

Jaxon Ward
Jaxon Ward

Yeah, that looks the part. You'll have manually uncomment the RTK section section in the back field for it to appear, if memory serves.

Carter Campbell
Carter Campbell

ive been studying Japanese for 3 years and I have come to these conclusions:

- anki just makes you think you are learning Japanese. In reality you are learning nothing.

- you should learn on/kun omi and stroke order separately and NOT at the exact same time as vocab (it makes you remember more stuff so harder to focus on one thing)

- don't worry about grammar. It will come naturally from watching lots of anime/ reading

Grayson Hall
Grayson Hall

holy, someone actually did it.

Nathan James
Nathan James

In reality you are learning nothing.
Yeah, of course you aren't, genius.

Owen Hall
Owen Hall

Before responding to Read

Josiah Wood
Josiah Wood

youre just as much of a shitposter get off it

Logan Wright
Logan Wright

Just checked and that deck seems to be the exact same thing as the one in the CoR, only the comments on the back of the card are removed by default on the CoR one. Not sure if the nihongoshark one follows the 6th edition order or not so that might be another difference.

Speaking of the decks in the CoR, I'm wondering if anyone knows what the difference is between the one in the mega folder with the RTK 6th edition PDF and the one in the "Advanced RTK" mega link. They look to be identical, both have the same number of cards, and the file names only differ in that one has square brackets in it while the other doesn't, but there is a small difference in file size (0.2MB) which suggests that there is indeed some sort of difference between them.

Christian Cook
Christian Cook

And it took you three fucking years to realize this?

I mean, I'm retarded and it took me 2 or 3 months to realize those 3 things

Nathaniel Scott
Nathaniel Scott

- you should learn on/kun omi and stroke order separately and NOT at the exact same time as vocab
Do you even need to if you are learning vocab only?

Parker Barnes
Parker Barnes

Eli Martin
Eli Martin

Loving this OP image. Nice design.

Wyatt Reyes
Wyatt Reyes

わたくしはそなたよりずっとずっとわかってるわ

i only took me 2-3 months to learn japanese honestly

i dont know how it takes people years

Bentley Jenkins
Bentley Jenkins

Use kanji. I ain't reading all that.

Alexander Walker
Alexander Walker

I ain't reading all that.

youre right about that

Ethan Richardson
Ethan Richardson

それどころじゃない

Caleb Adams
Caleb Adams

2-3 months to learn japanese
わたくしはそなたよりずっとずっとわかってるわ
It really shows.

Oliver Gray
Oliver Gray

youre just jealous thats why you just point your finger and say nothing of value lmao

John Garcia
John Garcia

Where the fuck is the kanji? This is disgusting to read without it.

Connor Jackson
Connor Jackson

i wanna start a reality tv show where i just lock a bunch of djt boys in a house with nothing but a famicom and famicom games and watch them squirm

Nolan Wright
Nolan Wright

I want you to get finish with English before pretending you know Japanese.

Eli Martinez
Eli Martinez

come on dude you cant fuck with me dont even bother

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcujQwmEcl0

Jayden King
Jayden King

does 大人ちんぽ mean literally adult penis or big penis?

Christopher Miller
Christopher Miller

virtuous penis

Angel James
Angel James

Adultlike penis, as opposed to the tiny peckers that Japanese guys usually have.

Liam Gray
Liam Gray

how do i say "murderous intent" in japanese?

Brandon Lee
Brandon Lee

殺す目的目的? I tried

Joshua Russell
Joshua Russell

殺すアウラ

Julian Allen
Julian Allen

殺す目的? I tried

Gabriel Rodriguez
Gabriel Rodriguez

イーブルリュウ

Justin Campbell
Justin Campbell

殺し意志

Joshua Smith
Joshua Smith

殺気

Juan Smith
Juan Smith

殺衝動

Nolan Diaz
Nolan Diaz

マーダラスインテント

Chase Richardson
Chase Richardson

殺害本意

Christopher Morris
Christopher Morris

殺人的なインテント

Levi Peterson
Levi Peterson

釣りに行くこと

Justin Peterson
Justin Peterson

日本語で「murderous intent」

Kayden Rivera
Kayden Rivera

犯人はあなた!

Andrew Campbell
Andrew Campbell

I'd like to read some international literature translated to Japanese. Is my only option buying the books or is that kind of thing ripped? Looking for Kafka's works right now but there's other authors I'd like to check eventually.

Ayden Davis
Ayden Davis

静かなおなら

Dominic Watson
Dominic Watson

I love how there's not a single consensus after like 10 responses haha we're fucked.

Jayden Jackson
Jayden Jackson

くさらないで

きょうのおにいちゃんがすきだよ

Charles Ortiz
Charles Ortiz

You need to read Book of the New Sun in Japanese

Levi Edwards
Levi Edwards

Gutenberg project might have some free ones as PDF or Ereader. You might have to dig thru a bunch tho.

Bentley Rogers
Bentley Rogers

how should we draw this fuligin material that's described as perfectly black?
just use grey lol

Christian Ward
Christian Ward

Just check out the Japanese versions of Nasu's works.

Elijah Lewis
Elijah Lewis

英語で「殺意」ってどうやって言うの

Noah James
Noah James

The motivation to massacre

Colton Martin
Colton Martin

The desire to destroy

Adrian King
Adrian King

How do I talk my way to an adderall subscription?

Elijah Jones
Elijah Jones

satsui

Luke Howard
Luke Howard

The pleasure of being killed inside

Luke Phillips
Luke Phillips

satsukoi

Christian Lee
Christian Lee

hitosatsuyubi

Justin Lewis
Justin Lewis

adderall
adderall is worse than ritalin for both people who are not addicted to it and people who do not have ADHD

Jayden Smith
Jayden Smith

Flock of caravan

Joshua Peterson
Joshua Peterson

yubishaburi

Thomas Edwards
Thomas Edwards

早い

Chase Morales
Chase Morales

god damn i can actually read this

it feels good knowing the thousands of hours i spent reading tyler kim has finally paid off

Bentley Perry
Bentley Perry

勉強乙 dude

Isaac Gray
Isaac Gray

The desire to set fire

David Davis
David Davis

Nakakoroshi no yorokobi

Charles Gomez
Charles Gomez

see
>>141573822

Logan Wood
Logan Wood

試験があるというあの気持ち

Cameron Wilson
Cameron Wilson

when i see nakako it remind me of nakamura koji

shoutouts if you know what im talkin about without googling

Dylan Lee
Dylan Lee

For an RTK deck, should the kanji be on the front or the back?

I ask because the nihongoshark deck has the kanji on the front and the keyword on the back, whereas the deck in the CoR (which seems to be identical in content to the nihongoshark one) has the kanji on the back and the keyword on the front.

Matthew Stewart
Matthew Stewart

kanji on front.
There's really no point trying to assign kanji to some random English keyword.

Cooper Sullivan
Cooper Sullivan

he fell for the RTK meme
Just do vocab m8

Sebastian Flores
Sebastian Flores

stanky legg一緒にやろうよ兄ちゃん

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewufRwrayTI

Sebastian Sanders
Sebastian Sanders

i always take my Kanjis first

Chase Edwards
Chase Edwards

I want to get bullied by Japanese schoolgirls

Anthony Wilson
Anthony Wilson

It's more like the other way around. I fell for the vocab meme and am now realising how unnecessarily difficult acquiring vocab is made by being illiterate.

Julian Hall
Julian Hall

You're probably doing something wrong or are very stupid, in which case even RTK won't help you.

Liam Gray
Liam Gray

ebin

Joshua Roberts
Joshua Roberts

what if i told you its all memes now youre under control and you do what they told you

Angel Garcia
Angel Garcia

Kanji, as that's what you're trying to recognise, not the keyword.

James Johnson
James Johnson

The standard RTK method, which will teach you to write, requires the keyword on the front. You might as well just do vocab-only if you're going to do kanji on the front.

Luis Robinson
Luis Robinson

You might as well just do vocab-only if you're going to do kanji on the front.
What if you only want to read? I hear all these stories about people in this thread saying they have 95+% retention on vocab after RTK.

Grayson Young
Grayson Young

Well, that's just your opinion, because the book itself really doesn't give a fuck.

Levi Young
Levi Young

anki stats mean jack fuck in the face of real life

Isaiah Fisher
Isaiah Fisher

Or you can do both, which is what I did. It's a considerable time commitment though, since you end up doing twice as many cards, and writing usually means you spend around 15 seconds per card.

Cameron Gomez
Cameron Gomez

It's perfectly fine to have the kanji on the front if you're primarily looking for recognition.

James Fisher
James Fisher

I did RTK with keyword on the front despite not caring about writing and I now have 95+% retention on vocab. I've heard people say they benefited from doing kanji on the front, but there's no way it'll make you as intimately familiar with the kanji as learning to write it.

It's in all caps and you still missed it.

Lucas Nelson
Lucas Nelson

Does that 95% include when you do 30+ new vocab, or only on reviews?

Because I already have 90% on reviews without any kanji study.

Oliver Johnson
Oliver Johnson

but there's no way it'll make you as intimately familiar with the kanji as learning to write it.
Maybe not, but it's way faster. I've still found myself benefiting a great deal from it even without writing.

Samuel Thompson
Samuel Thompson

Some people get 95+ % retention in core without RTK, just figure out what works for you, this is said like 5 times each thread.

The stats represent your kanji knowledge, how is that not relevant in real life? You really let yourself go recently, Jamal.

Jeremiah Nguyen
Jeremiah Nguyen

You can get 95% even if you do a hundred new cards a day granted you know the kanji well enough. Doing recognition cards gives you that knowledge.

Juan Anderson
Juan Anderson

Meant to say recall cards, fuck.

Isaiah Wood
Isaiah Wood

It's in all caps and you still missed it.
Ah, whatever. The guy is an old goat anyway.

Eli Allen
Eli Allen

But RTK doesn't teach you readings, only the English word. And if you put two kanji together it sometimes make a very different word than what you'd expect.

Alexander Carter
Alexander Carter

違うね
正解は
イケメンはその美貌ゆえに生まれながらにしての価値があるのにたいして
ブサメンはふつうに生きたらまわりに迷惑ばっかりかけるから
努力して生きる価値を作り出さなければならない

Aaron Lewis
Aaron Lewis

if you believe it really translates to real life all the best dude ride to the 輝き未来 on your magic carpet made out of flashcards

Henry Murphy
Henry Murphy

3次元のボクはいけまん

Parker Davis
Parker Davis

just use kanjidamage

Adrian Sanders
Adrian Sanders

ボク言ってることがイケメンじゃない証拠

Bentley Bennett
Bentley Bennett

Readings are best left out of the realm of anki, since that just gives you way too much to memorize. You pick them up fairly easily just by learning multiple words with the same kanji and multiple kanji with the same radicals. Guessing readings for words you haven't seen before becomes simple.

As for word meanings, those are not really viable to guess. You kind of have to look at that the same way RTK looks at kanji. Basically reverse engineer words like 経済 and 業績 using you knowledge of the kanji to help yourself remember them, the same way RTK does radicals in kanji.

Ian Sanders
Ian Sanders

証拠はプリンの中に

ちなみにいけまんって言ったじゃろ

Ayden Price
Ayden Price

経済
This is the first "hard" vocab I recognized at a first glance. Feels good man

James Brooks
James Brooks

i've been trying to figure out the real time import for quite some while now, when it says "note added" where does it actually create the card?

Samuel Clark
Samuel Clark

You need to have Anki open AND one of your decks open (the card will be added to that deck so make sure you don't open the wrong one). Pic related.

Also, you need to make sure that the fields in the deck match up to those in the "Field names" field of the "Anki" tab in your Rikaisama settings.

Jackson Hughes
Jackson Hughes

Ok, thank you, which fields do you suggest using ?

Evan Flores
Evan Flores

Also, you need to make sure that the fields in the deck match up to those in the "Field names" field of the "Anki" tab in your Rikaisama settings.
In case you don't understand, see pic related. These fields need to exist in the deck you want to import to.

Pic related is my settings.

Nolan Hernandez
Nolan Hernandez

Oh, and just to make sure, you have installed the Rikaisama add-on for Anki, right?

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/2512410601

Asher Moore
Asher Moore

Where did you get your Note Type?
the Note type that i got with core6k doesn't have the "Meaning" field.

Ayden Gomez
Ayden Gomez

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/2512410601
Yes, i do have it, thanks!

Brayden Powell
Brayden Powell

You're not supposed to add them to the Core deck, you're supposed to create a "mining deck" for them.

But if for some reason you want to add them to your Core deck, just adjust the field names to match those of your Core deck. You would probably have to rearrange the "Save format" field too, otherwise the information might wind up going in the wrong fields. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out.

Lincoln Stewart
Lincoln Stewart

ooh, i think i figured it out, i'll give it a try! thanks alot!

Camden Taylor
Camden Taylor

reminder to install True Retention if you look at your stats literally ever

Jeremiah Ramirez
Jeremiah Ramirez

How do I learn Japanese reading doujinshi?

Evan Wood
Evan Wood

>>141579753
JLPT N3

William Gray
William Gray

You just read it for a while and then you're done

Brandon Martin
Brandon Martin

Got most of this to work, except the audio doesn't play, it's supposed to save the audio.

Noah Edwards
Noah Edwards

Not every word has audio.

Try this one just to make sure that's not the problem: 焼酎

Also, did you type the audio part in the "Save format" field EXACTLY as I did? You HAVE to format it like this:
[sound:$a]

Ian Johnson
Ian Johnson

just learn niggas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51Usm_wJTn0

Samuel Peterson
Samuel Peterson

$d$t$r$t$n$t$d[$r]$t[sound:$a]
Expression Reading Meaning Furigana Sound

is what i have exactly, i tried and it does not play the sound, also it doesn't fetch the kanji either it just shows the hiragana reading, strange, how is it set up on your card?

Hunter Turner
Hunter Turner

What does that mean? How it feels to take a test?

Daniel Peterson
Daniel Peterson

Figured the sound one out, ClipBoard & Save, and Saved audio to collection.media folder.

also changed the encoding to EUC-JP as i'm not sure if UTF-8 has Japanese.

Jayden Williams
Jayden Williams

You also have to set it to save audio in anki's media folder.

Joshua Gutierrez
Joshua Gutierrez

Leave it as UTF-8.

As for Kanji not showing up, you've probably got your fields wrong in Anki. It should look like this.

Chase Bailey
Chase Bailey

What did /djt/ have for dinner?

Joseph Williams
Joseph Williams

WcDonalds

Nathaniel Kelly
Nathaniel Kelly

タコ

Jacob Jenkins
Jacob Jenkins

ビルもビル

Ryder Wood
Ryder Wood

ピッザ

Ethan Cooper
Ethan Cooper

watoshi ni nipongu to dekinot

Ryder Russell
Ryder Russell

it looks like this for me

Cooper Nelson
Cooper Nelson

ごめんね

Owen Murphy
Owen Murphy

When you saved this to your deck, did you hover over
はいく
or
俳句
?

If you hovered over hiragana, you will get hiragana.

Blake Brooks
Blake Brooks

Yo, i think i figured it out, i was using the wrong button, didn't realize there were two for import.. thank you for all the help so far! i think I've got it all figured out now thanks to you!

Lincoln Davis
Lincoln Davis

What is the んちょが in ガキんちょが? I can't figure it out.

Julian Johnson
Julian Johnson

Good to hear. And no problem.

I didn't realise there were two buttons. I've always just used "r".

Jace Rivera
Jace Rivera

its still asa bro

Chase Gray
Chase Gray

heard "BAN" as soon as i fucking saw his face
no. no more anki today

Gavin Powell
Gavin Powell

ステーキ
おいしかった

Ryan Clark
Ryan Clark

Rare or medium?

Nolan Morgan
Nolan Morgan

がきんちょ means pretty much the same thing as ガキ

Nolan Rodriguez
Nolan Rodriguez

I see. Thanks.

Daniel Lopez
Daniel Lopez

どっちでもない
メディアムレアステーキだった

Eli Martinez
Eli Martinez

Is this Japanese? And if so, can anyone kindly tell me what it says?

Dominic Hall
Dominic Hall

I'm about to practice listening and reading at the same time by reading a VN while japanese tv is playing in the background, and there's nothing you can do to stop me

Nathaniel Rodriguez
Nathaniel Rodriguez

Enjoy it man!

Dominic Fisher
Dominic Fisher

the pleasure of being cummed inside (lit. the intravaginal ejaculation pleasure)

Charles Clark
Charles Clark

You could practice listening with a VN by not gluing your eyes to the textbox until the voice finished playing for each line.

David Perez
David Perez

VN voices are too clear and slow to provide any useful listening practice

Juan Brown
Juan Brown

Post stats

William Reyes
William Reyes

What the fuck is that?

Evan Ortiz
Evan Ortiz

Graphs plotted inside an SQL viewer pointed at anki's database.

Michael Bennett
Michael Bennett

Does anyone have that eroge panel that looks like 4 or 5 solid lines of chinese?

Parker Russell
Parker Russell

isnt that like every erogame or is that the joke

Juan Myers
Juan Myers

Eromanga, sorry. There's a specific one that got posted here every day a couple months ago. It's a few lines of Kanji without a single kana to break it up.

Jonathan Green
Jonathan Green

stopped doing core deck 6 months ago
stopped reading VNs 3 months ago
stopped reading this thread and just having it open 1 month ago
All I do these days is watch anime, written Japanese is too hard

Julian Gutierrez
Julian Gutierrez

tfw finished core2k, tried reading Dies Irae, it was too hard and I quit learning the language 2 years ago
I still visit these thread occasionally, telling myself that I will have the motivation to start again one day.

Jayden Baker
Jayden Baker

how many cards do you guys do a day

Jose Cox
Jose Cox

えっとね

あのね

ううんなんでもないょ

Jaxson Long
Jaxson Long

Man that's just sad that you not only got tricked into attempting to read a kusoge but that it discouraged you too

Justin Sullivan
Justin Sullivan

I'd like to read some international literature translated to Japanese.
青空文庫 has a large collection of famous Western literature in Japanese.

Nicholas Williams
Nicholas Williams

I've only been using Core 2K long enough that I just started accumulating mature cards.

Hunter Wilson
Hunter Wilson

Just sit down and open anki already.

Alexander Wood
Alexander Wood

Forgot my pic.

Wyatt Thompson
Wyatt Thompson

But RTK doesn't teach you readings
RTK book 2 focused entirely on a systematically memorising readings.

Carson Cruz
Carson Cruz

おいクソガキ
なめるのも程々にしろ
ぶっ殺すぞ

Ryan Sullivan
Ryan Sullivan

ひとにやさしくしてね

Henry Taylor
Henry Taylor

core 2k is just the start man, it's basically the basic vocab set to start off, you finally finished the tutorial and you give up.

Evan Adams
Evan Adams

That's just not fair. Core2k was supposed to give you the most important words you need. Just how many words do you need for fluency? Is core6k enough?

Cooper Davis
Cooper Davis

reminder that if you dedicate all your time to rote memorization of vocabulary you will have a problem recalling that information in any other context

grind less, read more and talk with japanese people

Zachary Roberts
Zachary Roberts

grind less, read more
ok
talk with japanese people
fuck off and kill yourself

Benjamin Hall
Benjamin Hall

出前

Asher Walker
Asher Walker

hating the people whose language you're trying to learn

Henry Morgan
Henry Morgan

nobody said that senpai

Jason Davis
Jason Davis

Talking to Japanese people obviously helps a lot in learning Japanese, though.

Jack Reed
Jack Reed

Lol no, average university students in Japan know 45k vocab(something around that)
2k is the tutorial, you can start reading at this point, but you'll run into a lot of unknown vocabulary very early.

6k should be a very solid core to start reading a lot of stuff, even at 6k you will see new words everywhere. Japanese is unfortunately not fair :( don't give up!

Matthew Perry
Matthew Perry

Yeah, it's amazing you can practice your known vocab in actual conversation.

Mason Murphy
Mason Murphy

I don't care about your personal opinion.

Isaiah Foster
Isaiah Foster

Lol no, average university students in Japan know 45k vocab(something around that)
lol no

Henry Phillips
Henry Phillips

they didn't say word families

Grayson Bell
Grayson Bell

じゃあほどほどになめちゃうよ

ちゅ

Sebastian Brooks
Sebastian Brooks

did you know nobody actually knows words because memories are just recreated on the spot

no one literally knows shit at any given time

Connor Bell
Connor Bell

trying to read anything with novel in the title with 2k
Even easy manga should be difficult at that level.

Anthony Baker
Anthony Baker

It's 45000 if you e.g. consider 読み and 読む to be separate "words." Obviously they are the same piece of information though, so I don't know what that is supposed to tell anyone.

Also just consider the structure of Japanese, many concepts that are expressed by multiple words in English are one "word" in Japanese. E.g. "special effects" is not it's own English word but it does express a unique unit of information equivalent to the Japanese "word" 特撮.

So basically the 45000 figure is true in a sense but it doesn't really tell the whole story.

Austin Jackson
Austin Jackson

6k is fuck all, man. You won't get far with this few.

Justin Flores
Justin Flores

I mean it's also just one study in a question notorious for inaccurate answers. But if you consider 終止形、已然形、未然形, 連用形 as separate for each verb then I suppose it might reach that high

Jace White
Jace White

You were supposed to read something like Yotsuba or a moege.

Adrian Walker
Adrian Walker

私の親は私がバカだと思う
どうしよう

Can どうしよう be used to "what should I do" or does it always mean "what should we do"

Jacob Rodriguez
Jacob Rodriguez

is this your first anime
自分の心を信じて

Nathan Campbell
Nathan Campbell

Here it means "the pleasure of being cummed inside."

Nolan Gutierrez
Nolan Gutierrez

are you saying I was right and should trust myself? And I don't understand the anime part.

Thank you. Duly noted and thrown away

Parker Sanders
Parker Sanders

>>141587614
Thank you

Christopher Diaz
Christopher Diaz

http://www.forbes.com/sites/naomirobbins/2012/02/28/misleading-graphs-displaying-a-change-in-one-variable-using-area-or-volume/

Brandon Kelly
Brandon Kelly

The little part is おせっか? The closest thing I can find about it is おせっかい

Sebastian Roberts
Sebastian Roberts

yes

yes

Henry Parker
Henry Parker

So, you're saying that your brains can't accept how little it actually is due to your lack of success while going through core 6k?

Hunter Cruz
Hunter Cruz

アニメは一番好きなものですから、日本人になるつもりです。私の夢は日本の女子高校生と高校に行きたいです。

Luke Taylor
Luke Taylor

nah I'm saying your brain can't accept that things that look big aren't actually big without making them look smaller than they are

Bentley Rivera
Bentley Rivera

Then おせっか is the same as おせっかい?

Brody Sanchez
Brody Sanchez

私の写真を忘れました

Liam Edwards
Liam Edwards

It's おせっかー here. The speaker is slurring their words a bit is all. Osekkai -> osekkaa. You'll see this kind of slurring used in manga because it's supposed to be speech, but it won't be in "correct" text.

Nathan Allen
Nathan Allen

No but there's a line under the か like the person wrote おせっかい but just missed a stroke, and it sounds like it fits in context

Jackson Evans
Jackson Evans

I suspected it but wasn't so sure. Thanks to both of you.

Ryan Cooper
Ryan Cooper

How do native Japanese speakers write on their keyboard and how does it look like? I've noticed in every anime when characters are using their pc they write in ローマ字, as we all do. is this acurate?

Aiden Diaz
Aiden Diaz

RTK (done wrong)

Aiden Richardson
Aiden Richardson

Are there any examples of absurdly long て-form compound verbs?

By that I mean something like this, but with a long chain of verbs modifying each other:「動詞」〜てみてくる

Elijah Gomez
Elijah Gomez

yes, kana keyboard layout is a load of horseshit so nobody uses it

Nathaniel Price
Nathaniel Price

tfw fell down the chute of failure

Christian Bell
Christian Bell

This is full of horse shit and nobody listens to it. If you have a smartphone use kana keypad with "flick only" enabled.

Ethan Ramirez
Ethan Ramirez

he said keyboard not keypad

Hunter Davis
Hunter Davis

on their keyboard

Easton Garcia
Easton Garcia

Oops my bad. Yes on keyboard I think most everyone uses IME

Bentley Barnes
Bentley Barnes

Probably but you'd have to be creative in coming up with a string of verbs that actually make sense together.

Maybe something like 何かを連れて行って損なって行っている could work.

Nolan Barnes
Nolan Barnes

Why's it horseshit? You could potentially write a lot faster like that as the number of strokes is way lower.

Sebastian Anderson
Sebastian Anderson

the problem is that it removes the high-density character areas that vowels usually take up, which makes learning new chords much more difficult and error prone

Adam Perez
Adam Perez

なるべく諦めない!
なせば大抵なんとかなる!

Time spent shitposting is time spent not studying. If you're about to engage in a silly argument or off-topic discussion, close the thread instead. Use your time productively!

Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!

Oliver Rodriguez
Oliver Rodriguez

Jesus Christ, why even bother?

Bentley Long
Bentley Long

You CAN learn Japanese!

Don't tell me what to do.

Nathaniel Sanchez
Nathaniel Sanchez

What the fuck are you doing posting it this late?

Brandon Foster
Brandon Foster

i've already studied for hours today. time to rest until tomorrow.

Connor Butler
Connor Butler

How much do you read a day?

Daniel Powell
Daniel Powell

You won't learn Japanese if you rest.

As much as I can.

Gabriel Bell
Gabriel Bell

Is Tobira a good alternative after finishing Genki?

Caleb Wright
Caleb Wright

about half a page of yotsubato

Ryan Morris
Ryan Morris

It depends. If there are a lot of new words, then I might only read a sentence or two but study the words I don't know.
Same goes for any grammar rules.

Isaiah Cooper
Isaiah Cooper

15-60 minutes. I've had a couple days where I read for 6 hours, but they are very rare.

Gabriel Smith
Gabriel Smith

grammar decks and core deck
at the same level as intermediate hell
笑止

Owen Ross
Owen Ross

You might be right, but Japanese is very low priority for me

Brayden Lopez
Brayden Lopez

There exists a standard keyboard layout for kana input, but it takes four rows on the keyboard to fit everything so only kids who haven't learned the Latin alphabet yet and old people who are still salty about the war use it.

There also exists specialized kana keyboards that use multiple shift keys to fit all the kana on just three rows, but these are mainly used by lawyers and writers.

Luis Baker
Luis Baker

same level
More like one level below
Learn how to use your brain

Asher Fisher
Asher Fisher

old people who are still salty about the war
ワロタ

William Russell
William Russell

It should be down near the bottom. If you don't know grammar you are a beginner

Juan Fisher
Juan Fisher

Grammar decks aren't for people who don't know grammar, they're for people who are too stupid to accept reading for practice.

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