MC of the last animu you watched is replaced by Shirou

Evan Bennett
Evan Bennett

Better or worse?

Carson Stewart
Carson Stewart

Re zero
Nothing changes

Nathaniel Clark
Nathaniel Clark

Better, no doubt.

Cooper Nguyen
Cooper Nguyen

Shirou is best MC next to Touma because morality.

Elijah Baker
Elijah Baker

Kiznaiver

An autist replace another autist, I think nothing will change.

Ryder Bell
Ryder Bell

Boku no Hero Academia..

They both have a "gonna be a hero" attitude..

Jeremiah Gonzalez
Jeremiah Gonzalez

Shirou is cooler, but Nagisa is better at assassination desu

Connor Parker
Connor Parker

Would Shirou and Touma get along? I imagine they'd both spend a lot of time talking about justice or whatever.

Jeremiah Martinez
Jeremiah Martinez

Chaika

Probably worse, although I don't think the plot would change much.

Logan Cook
Logan Cook

Oh boy...

Andrew Thomas
Andrew Thomas

Kabaneri
He'll see becoming a Kabaneri as a way to become a hero of justice.
He'll happily fight for the sake of others, trying to save eryone.

Well, actually, it would be exactly the same plot as the original, except for a badly written sex scene with Mumei.

Blake Mitchell
Blake Mitchell

Tonkatsu DJ Agetarou
Unlimited Scratch Wizzerks

Cameron Roberts
Cameron Roberts

Netoge yada yada yada

Dumber, but somehow better with women.

Jaxson Butler
Jaxson Butler

well same!
but damnt Subaru can't project swords
and of course he will be able to getkilledby that asshole of Reinhart

no really ! he doesn't stand a chance, as he himself stated to not have the ability to fight someone that mastered a sword.
maybe only with UBW would , but that would be taking Gil's job of killing heroes

Joseph Cruz
Joseph Cruz

Inferno Cop
He won't fit in at all. Could only be fun if he plays a straight man to the world around him, but it's not what IC is about.
So, overall worse.

Christian Gutierrez
Christian Gutierrez

Shirous lack of self worth / identity would mean he would probably go all out and die when it is required to save someone.

Though he is also far more obsessive, so as a vessel he would probably be more prepared for OFA.

Wyatt Ross
Wyatt Ross

Fuck off with your Fate/Trash

Jackson James
Jackson James

literally nothing changes

Lucas Allen
Lucas Allen

Konosuba

HE DEFEATS THE DEMON KING

John Gray
John Gray

Macross Delta
He kills Bogue and an unnamed mook then feels so much guilt after he got beaten into pulp by the rest of fuccboi squad

Freyja will be pregnant

Mason Ortiz
Mason Ortiz

what would shirou ask aqua for?

Josiah Myers
Josiah Myers

Nanoha

He dies. So better.

Lucas Foster
Lucas Foster

Boku no Pico
bad, the last thing we need is a straight male

Evan Cook
Evan Cook

swords

Christopher Bell
Christopher Bell

Just started watching UBW but I had a question,

Am I supposed to watch the movie and Fate/Zero before watching the series? The order is kind of confusing on wikipedia

Never watched or played FSN

Gavin Lee
Gavin Lee

Stardust crusaders

Does shirou can even fight Dio ?

Ryder Walker
Ryder Walker

The movie is a very condensed version of the story the show tells. Fate/zero isn't necessary but it's good.

UBW takes a slow pace cuz most people watching it know what happens from other forms of the story. There's an old series of Fate/Stay Night that follows a different route (it's meh).

Camden Reed
Camden Reed

Fate/Zero is a prequel series. Not necessary but still good to watch. The series is based off the VNs that go down different story routes.

Luke Cox
Luke Cox

After some googling, I've learned more of the series.

The old FSN anime, UBW movie and show, and upcoming Heaven's Feels are different routes from the original game.

Fate/Zero is a prequel to the game.

And apparently the old anime and ubw movie are bad.

I think I'ma watch UBW, HF, play the VN, and then watch Fate/Zero.

Thanks

Caleb Harris
Caleb Harris

evangelion
Humanity is dommed.

Jordan James
Jordan James

The game has 3 route wich are Fate/UBW/HF
The old anime starts with Fate and then does an awful routemix that doesn't go anywhere.
Old UBW is too rushed and bad
F/Z is pretty good but it's a prequel that you won't truly enjoy unless you already have knowledge of what happens.
The new UBW is pretty good too.

Michael Morgan
Michael Morgan

Boku no hero academia
It would be the same, but he would have some kind of sword quirk I think?
UA must be his dream school.

Kayden Cox
Kayden Cox

So my plan for watching/playing is good?

I think I'ma watch UBW(meant the show), HF, play the VN, and then watch Fate/Zero.

I would do the VN first but don't want to at the moment. But I'll probably do it over the next few weeks/months though since HF isn't until next year

Ethan Clark
Ethan Clark

just go with UBW and then play the VN since the HF movies aren't going to release at once anyway.
You might be sightly bored when you do the Fate route though since UBW assumes you already know some things.

Connor Thomas
Connor Thomas

implying Shirou would not SAVE EVERYONE
implying Asuka, Rei, Kaworu, Mari, Maya, Ritsuko, and Misato would not all become part of his harem

Dominic Howard
Dominic Howard

Fate/Kaleid

hmm.....

Chase Bell
Chase Bell

Fate/Kaleid
Look at this trio there's even a nigger, accurate as fuck

Joseph Rogers
Joseph Rogers

Haibane Renmei
Not sure he would fit in very well

Dylan Diaz
Dylan Diaz

Sousei no Onmyouji
Thay'd have to use 2 whole episodes to explain to him his arranged marriage with Benio.

Isaiah Thomas
Isaiah Thomas

He'd probably be killed on the spot as Archer was, but mor importantly,
a badly written sex scene with Mumei
Fucking fund it.

Thomas Perry
Thomas Perry

We're married!
You mean in the game world?
We're married!
You mean in the game world?
We're married!
You mean in the game world?
three hours, a flow diagram, and two puppet-shows later, he still doesn't get that Ako thinks they really are married

Henry Evans
Henry Evans

If you're gonna play the VN anyway, do that first.
UFO did the best job they could with UBW, but FSN just doesn't translate 100% well to anime beacuse of the heavy usage of inner monologues.
The way UFO handled it by showing in a visual way was great, but you'd probably have a hard time understanding it if you didn't read the VN first.

Joshua Evans
Joshua Evans

Re Zero
Eventually goes mind of steal and GAR's everyone to death

Adam Walker
Adam Walker

Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 0096

Can he even pilot?

Logan Smith
Logan Smith

Thinking about it, if you play the VN blind, you'll be doing basically the same.
A wrong choice will lead you to death and you'll restart from a save and try a different route.

He'll trace the gundam's memories.

Matthew Turner
Matthew Turner

Hmm, might do that. Only on the prologue of UBW

Nathaniel Mitchell
Nathaniel Mitchell

Unicorn is a Newtype-use suit, so nope.

William Perez
William Perez

a frying pan

Jeremiah Adams
Jeremiah Adams

Sakamoto desu ga

He's not Sakamoto, of course it'll be worse

Dylan Gomez
Dylan Gomez

Most annoying MC ever

I drop it

Nolan Edwards
Nolan Edwards

i dunno but i'd imagine he'd be asking why saber is half a horse now.

Ethan Wright
Ethan Wright

Kind of a sidegrade, since he actually deserves his bitches but is much more dense.

Aaron Myers
Aaron Myers

Trigun
It's fairly the same. Just shit now.

Wyatt Watson
Wyatt Watson

Why are you in my bed, Momo? If you're cold, I could get you an extra blanket

Evan Foster
Evan Foster

When you say play the VN, do you mean all the routes?

I don't have much experience with VNs. Is there like a main story and then two side stories?

Are the three routes just different branches of the main story? Would I know which branch I'm on iff it's like this?

Dominic Rivera
Dominic Rivera

Yozakura Quartet

I dunno, honestly.

Brody Morales
Brody Morales

Who would you consider the MC? Mayor?

Anthony Sanchez
Anthony Sanchez

It's gotta either be her or Akina, right?

Josiah Price
Josiah Price

There's three stories. All of them are the "main story.
They are meant to be read as Fate > UBW > Heaven's Feel for thematic purposes.
The Realta Nua release has them separated, and the original locked the routes out to be played in that order. It's a 50 hour VN, so get comfy.

If you feel like there's too much to handle from what I've said, try your hand at the Tsukihime game Type Moon produced previously, which is much shorter and has lore bits that you'll miss if you skip it.

Jordan King
Jordan King

The first time you play you can only play Fate, after completing fate you get an option during one of the first days that makes the game enter UBW and from there everything is different, same for HF but only after you complete UBW.

There's a chart somewhere that explains everything.

Jack Nguyen
Jack Nguyen

Better no matter what.

Dominic King
Dominic King

Cool, thanks. I was about to ask if I should go with the original or Realta nua but I think I'm going to go original

I'll try out Tsukihime

Jonathan Carter
Jonathan Carter

The new Realta Nua has the routes separated, so you can play them in any order you like.
Still, any first timer should play it in the intended order (Fate > UBW > HF).

Robert Ramirez
Robert Ramirez

unlimited eupho works

Michael Sullivan
Michael Sullivan

Forgot my image like an idiot.

Matthew Bennett
Matthew Bennett

Fate/Zero
You tell me.

Elijah Hall
Elijah Hall

Double Avalon time

David Clark
David Clark

He won't have Rin on his side there, so he'd probably die on day 1.

Isaac Ross
Isaac Ross

Hey can I see all the options for weapons that I can have?
oh cool thanks
Shirou can now ask for literally anything else

Elijah Ramirez
Elijah Ramirez

But he's got Seibah, Iri, and Maiya.
It's unlikely he'd lose

Kevin Fisher
Kevin Fisher

become the seigi no mikata
He'd already be Archer at his base level.

Hunter Cruz
Hunter Cruz

I was thinking of how he'd take the hit from Lancer/Lancelot/Gil for Saber early on and wouldn't have noone to heal him.
But yea, Iri could probably do that even better than Rin, so it's ok.
And the masters are generally less competent than in FSN so I guess he could win.

Cameron Hughes
Cameron Hughes

If Saber is nerfed because of him like fsn he's fucked.
If she's still at her fz level, he could win.

Jonathan Baker
Jonathan Baker

He's no Sakamoto for sure.

William Perry
William Perry

Fate/Kaleid

I mean season three starts in summer so that's coming true by then.

Jacob Price
Jacob Price

some kind of sword quirk I think?
Just read the manga. Shiro practically takes over as mc.

Sebastian Turner
Sebastian Turner

Guaranteed win, regardless of Shirou stayt nerf or not. Not only would Shirou have Avalon in himself but he would have the one used to summon Saber too, and unlike Kerry he would let Saber use it, thus making her immortal.

Jackson Jackson
Jackson Jackson

Amagami SS
it basically becomes Carnival Phantasm

Daniel Ramirez
Daniel Ramirez

wow, holy shit that's pretty smart. I don't think that would even occur to him.

Cooper Morgan
Cooper Morgan

Josuke
I think it's worse but would not have derailed. Change wits to tenacity and add fucking girls.

Matthew Richardson
Matthew Richardson

Berzerk
I think he died...

Christopher Smith
Christopher Smith

Considering shirou is the MC in DREI no need to imagine it.

Cameron Jenkins
Cameron Jenkins

As long as you turn on the H scenes in the Realta nua version it doesn't matter which one you play they are both the same thing except for the Realta version has a few animated scenes.

Brandon Russell
Brandon Russell

He doesn't have Rin in DREI and he's more useful than ever.

Logan Brooks
Logan Brooks

be in anime coma
watch P&SG

The only way this ends well for him if he's Brief; which is effectively nothing changes.

Carson Baker
Carson Baker

Re zero
Nothing changes
While Shoirou is a bit dense he isnt a dumbass. He most likely wont die even once and we get typical isekai story, with forever cooked witch.

Jordan Long
Jordan Long

flying witch
meet his alternate universe future as Archer

Caleb Sanders
Caleb Sanders

Gyakuten Saiban

Time to project some evidence for muh Justice

Ryan Long
Ryan Long

fight Dio

AKIRAMENAI. TRACE ON.

Christopher Hill
Christopher Hill

He can still GAR though. Still, worse.

Carter Phillips
Carter Phillips

DB Super

I'm not sure, to be honest.

Jacob Evans
Jacob Evans

He installs Archer in Drei, so it's no wonder.

Aiden Nelson
Aiden Nelson

Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya
Oh wait it already happened

Adam Anderson
Adam Anderson

I actually like shirou. he is can be dense as fuck but he is still pretty okey main character.

Levi Morales
Levi Morales

dense main character with a seemingly ordinary power with tons of utility replaces dense main character

Colton Jenkins
Colton Jenkins

haifuri
g-girls shouldn't fight.

Nathan Cox
Nathan Cox

Flying witch
More cooking, I guess?

Jonathan Johnson
Jonathan Johnson

He most likely wont die
The amount of badends in the VN says otherwise.

Isaac Moore
Isaac Moore

Every time Shirou dies he can visit Taiga Dojo in between his deaths.

Justin Smith
Justin Smith

It gets way worse.

Henry Parker
Henry Parker

Re:Zero, so we get a moralfag self-insert instead of a bland dumb self-insert? Seems to be shit either way.

Charles Gonzalez
Charles Gonzalez

Luluco
I guess he'll morph into a sword

Dylan Rivera
Dylan Rivera

Schwarzesmarken

If a TSF counts as a weapon he can break down, analyze, and reinforce with his magic, then a lot changes. There'd also be a ton of muh ideals arguments, especially with Iris and Beatrix. At least he'd be a better protagonist then that other red haired dude.

Hudson King
Hudson King

How the hell could it ever be better? Literally the most boring, idealistic, and generally retarded character ever.

Blake Bell
Blake Bell

Watch more anime.

Nicholas Sanders
Nicholas Sanders

Higurashi
wew lad

Jordan Watson
Jordan Watson

DonĀ“t argue with Fatefaggots, they are the most diehard annoying shits in both Sup Forums and reddit. Fucking caner is what they are.

David Butler
David Butler

reddit
Go back there.

Hunter Flores
Hunter Flores

They have no arguments against you. Be prepared for their meme bait images they stole from MAL or whatever garbage site.

Matthew Rogers
Matthew Rogers

Why? You fucbois have ruined most of the threads there too, even with the containment subreddit you have.

Mason Garcia
Mason Garcia

reddit
Please go back to that place

Benjamin Bennett
Benjamin Bennett

fatehaters are redditor.
Wow that explains a lot. You fags consistently try to derail every thread where that franchise is mentioned. The most cancerous shits I've ever seen.

Robert Evans
Robert Evans

Doesn't surprise me really, a 50 hour VN is a pretty big entry barrier for people with the attention span of a hamster.
So that's what we get, secondaries shitting up the threads to no end.

Xavier James
Xavier James

You have to go back.

Carter Ross
Carter Ross

Flying witch
If it's main male character and it's Kei who get replaced by Shirou, then nothing changes.

Jonathan Collins
Jonathan Collins

In fatefaggots defense, most got into it because of Zero and UBW. I think most are still ignorant that it is an eroge title with cringe sex scenes.
You got it wrong. Fate haters are just minority of hipster Sup Forums and reddit. Most of Sup Forums and reddit love it.

Brody Watson
Brody Watson

Sekirei
Might be cool

Julian Cruz
Julian Cruz

Reading comprehension = None existent
There are more people on Reddit that have a Fate poster on their wall and having it on their favourite anime of all time list than Sup Forums. I know you hate to accept it, but Fate is quite the entry shit now.

Isaiah Thompson
Isaiah Thompson

Kiznaiver would be really interesting, probably better.

Logan Watson
Logan Watson

Mayoiga
Substantially worse.

Like, holy shit.

Hunter Cox
Hunter Cox

There are more people on Reddit that have a Fate poster on their wall and having it on their favourite anime of all time list than Sup Forums.
Please go back.

Grayson Thomas
Grayson Thomas

I feel like it would be exactly the same, at least so far.

Colton Cook
Colton Cook

Being surrounded by hundreds of you
I rather be surrounded by only a couple of you. Let me guess, you saw Shirou and you instantly turn it into a Fate general?

Chase Ross
Chase Ross

Bad ends are what ifs Shirou were as dumb as Subaru, and for people who are dumb as Subaru.

Nolan Jones
Nolan Jones

Who are you quoting?

Luis Edwards
Luis Edwards

Most people who hate Shirou are the ones that got into fate by watching that DEEN abortion, and never got over it even after UBW.
Needless to say, they also never read the VN, so that first impression stucked on them, even though they don't know what the fuck they are talking about.

Gabriel Wood
Gabriel Wood

you saw Shirou and you instantly turn it into a Fate general?
That's literally what you fatehaters do everytime. You see people mention Fate, you call it shit and lose your shit when people don't agree. You're the ones that have derailed this thread. Nobody was discussing Fate before you cancerous reddit fucks brought it up.

Caleb Richardson
Caleb Richardson

Actually, the VN makes a point that in fate and UBW the "smart" choice is the one that will get you killed.
Like throwing yourself at Berserker to protect Saber instead of running with Rin.

Jeremiah Nelson
Jeremiah Nelson

Or going and straight up asking Issei whether he's a master versus stripping him.

Leo Taylor
Leo Taylor

Same

Mason Hall
Mason Hall

Jotaro switched out for Shirou.

Yeah, Dio's gonna win.

Kevin Turner
Kevin Turner

>In Flight

No

Adrian Wright
Adrian Wright

ufotable and deen got the core of his character pretty much right. Guy is a bland self insert with a straight moral compass like any other of the many VNs with routes, then turned into a moralfaggot up to eleven on the latter half. Either you like that archetype from a general standpoint, or simply do not care and just self insert, you will like Shirou. Those that hate Shirou are people that do not self insert, or dislike said archetype.

But I bet a bunch of folks enjoyed every other character more. Like his edgy adoptive father or Gil.

Daniel Stewart
Daniel Stewart

Nanoha

I could see Fate Shirou adopting Fate, maybe UBW as well.

Logan Powell
Logan Powell

Sakamoto
The whole show is ruined.

Jaxson King
Jaxson King

This, there's no way you can beat Dio without timestop of your own or some indexverse tier bullshit

Benjamin Wood
Benjamin Wood

Gary Stu replacing another Gary Stu
It would be the same thing, but Sakamoto is too much of a geek to be replaced. He wore a trash-bag cape just for fun.

Daniel Richardson
Daniel Richardson

Guy is a bland self insert
self inserting as Shirou, ever
No, just no.

The whole point of his character is to show how someone would have to be broken to think like he does and nobody (not even his friends) thinks he is right in being that way.

The DEEN anime did a terrible job at that, and UBW was competent enough to show that subtly with visuals, but it still wasn't great at conveying it.

Henry Gomez
Henry Gomez

What would Shirou's stand be?

David Powell
David Powell

Teekyuu

He's stupid enough to fit right in.

Elijah Fisher
Elijah Fisher

W-Well...

Jaxson Carter
Jaxson Carter

Good guy
Moralfaggot
A lot of girls hovering over him throughout the series
Good at a lot of things, like cooking
Mate, is a common way to ease readers in. A lot of fucking VNs does the same. Bland and generic guy at first, and build the character up with some extremes. Is not hard to self insert into a sword. I mean we have guys self inserting into the girl in NTR, the fat guy, and even the cuck.

Ethan Miller
Ethan Miller

Good at a lot of things, like cooking
It's made quite the big point how low tier and amateurish he is at the beginning.

Bland and generic guy at first
Like I said before, he isn't.
The fact that the VN is far more about him than any of the girls is proof enough of this.

self inserting into the girl in NTR, the fat guy, and even the cuck.
Shirou isn't relatable enough to be a self-insert like those examples though.

Easton Price
Easton Price

If Shirou wasnt relatable, Fate would not be so popular among teens.

Easton Johnson
Easton Johnson

It has cute girls and flashy battles, I don't see why not.
It's not like teens would read VNs or anything.

Michael Jenkins
Michael Jenkins

her lips quiver opening ever so slightly
they glisten in the light, soft like the delicate elliptical fin of a cuttle fish

Mason Brown
Mason Brown

Why is he so pure?

Dominic Peterson
Dominic Peterson

Symphogear

He either fights with Tsubasa over who is the better sword, or gets along with Tsubasa for being a fellow sword

Aaron Moore
Aaron Moore

Initial D
I don't even have a close idea of how that would even work
Oh, well, just one
He delivers tofu to a church

Brayden Taylor
Brayden Taylor

Better

Caleb King
Caleb King

He wouldn't get along with best boy Aomine though

David Garcia
David Garcia

Shirou would crush him

Bentley Hernandez
Bentley Hernandez

shingeki no soma?

Christopher Brown
Christopher Brown

shingeki no soma
u wot m8

Assuming you're talking about Shokugeki no Soma, he'd do just fine with his cooking.

Cooper Morgan
Cooper Morgan

We just want our money back

My sides were in orbit

Angel Cox
Angel Cox

Nah, nigga's gonna make everything worse.

Mason Harris
Mason Harris

Yu-Gi-Oh Arc-V
Shirou just uses trace on to create whatever card he needs. Other than that nothing changes.

Nathaniel Brown
Nathaniel Brown

Shirou would die more times in episode 1 than Subaru has in the entire season so far.
Dude is suicidal as fuck. If he didn't have literal plot armor he wouldn't make it past the first night of the holy grail war.

Gavin Scott
Gavin Scott

Best episode.

Also, just noticed
Fuyuki circuit
heh

James Rodriguez
James Rodriguez

kill la kill

better

Ian Watson
Ian Watson

Space Patrol Luluco
His fire of JUSTICE will make him win everything.

Robert Campbell
Robert Campbell

Archer

Cooper Gray
Cooper Gray

Prisma Illya

Already happened.

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