Dragon Ball Super

Michael Mitchell
Michael Mitchell

I am fucking done with this show.

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Jordan Wright
Jordan Wright

No one cares and using the fucking catalog retard.

Cameron Scott
Cameron Scott

Best super episode for now. This HS episode did everything right.

Charles Ortiz
Charles Ortiz

See you next week.

Ryder Jackson
Ryder Jackson

We can all agree that Piccolo is the best Dad, right?

Adam Wright
Adam Wright

So now Pan being strong at age 4 is not because Goku trained her, but because she's just got bloodline powers?

Toriyama and Toei are going to great lengths to ruin DBZ's epilogue, aren't they?

Jonathan Foster
Jonathan Foster

You mean like Goten?

Carson Gomez
Carson Gomez

isn't toriyama out of this shit ? didn't he say that he wasn't involved with the scripts of super ?

Leo Nguyen
Leo Nguyen

Goten was trained by chichi and gohan and he's like 8 years old when we meet him, not 4.

Parker Watson
Parker Watson

And he went Super Saiyan on his own.

Austin Green
Austin Green

He does new character designs and hammers out a general plot, the guys at Toei do the rest.

He's more involved than he was in GT, but less than he was during the manga run.

Jace Hill
Jace Hill

And that's dumb too, but thankfully it wasn't the case with pan. Is your point that just because something stupid happened earlier, everything is excused if it is?

Leo Harris
Leo Harris

The point is Dragon Ball has always been stupid. Goku went to the moon, but can't breathe in space. Hybrids always get bloodline powers, just like Gohan and Pan.

Hell, Gohan's early displays of power always showed him flying.

Blake Ross
Blake Ross

The point is Dragon Ball has always been stupid.
And? Why is it okay when they retroactively make it stupider?

Blake White
Blake White

How is it any stupider? It at least goes with what's previously established.

Fuck you actually think this is a retcon, don't you? Nigga THIS is a retcon.

Tyler Butler
Tyler Butler

because Goku training pan and bonding with her was a sweet way to end the series, and pan's power was in a way an expression of how close the two were.

But no, she's flying in space as a toddler now and Goku is a shit grandparent. Bravo, Toriyama.
Again, being in line with previously stupid shit doesn't mean it's good for previously NOT stupid shit to be retconned into being stupid. And great defense, by the way: "wow, super is stupid". "Yeah, as stupid as the stupidest moments of DBZ!"

Mason Murphy
Mason Murphy

You're forgetting that Gohan was a special snowflake with genetics superpowers too.

Oh god he raged and managed to gravely injure an enemy who slapped Goku and Piccolo's shit

Gabriel Foster
Gabriel Foster

Except... Goku still adores her and wants to train her, even promises that she'll be a Super Saiyan in no time. Hell Goku actually shows himself to be a decent grandpa, better than he was as a dad. Fuck did you actually WATCH the episode?

You're assblasted because it doesn't fit your headcanon. Where did it ever say that Goku was the one who taught her to fly?

Christian Williams
Christian Williams

hating on the most cannon super episode

Dylan Stewart
Dylan Stewart

That's actually logical, saiyans are getting stronger with each hybrid generation.
It was a colorful moment and despites the incoherence of the characters breathing in space, it's actually better to see them trying things like this rather than just throwing so bland DBZ ripoff that the fans want to see.
Too bad Toei keeps on giving the episode to 12 year old animators. I fucking hate them for ruining the potential Super has.

Luke Campbell
Luke Campbell

Why do they have filler in an all new saga?

Ian Watson
Ian Watson

watering down the strong species yeilds a stronger species

It doesn't really make sense

Jose Phillips
Jose Phillips

How can she instinctively fly? Wasn't that a technique that involved at least the basic understanding of Ki usage?

Michael Gutierrez
Michael Gutierrez

and Goku is a shit grandparent.
no that was GT
he's a good grandpa in super

Jack Nguyen
Jack Nguyen

How did her dad do it?

Alexander Myers
Alexander Myers

What if humans are the stronger race? They just needed a little spark to blossom, like a little alien blood.

Chase Smith
Chase Smith

Dragonball follows Lamarckian genetics.

Each saiyan-hybrid kid is stronger than the last, and can naturally use abilities that their parents had to train.

Anthony Rogers
Anthony Rogers

Well it didn't made any sense since Gohan then?
I'm guessing it's like "the saiyans are too cold hearted to be really strong so they need the human warmth/hearth" whatever

Daniel Martinez
Daniel Martinez

Wait shit is that why Tien and Krillin were so strong for humans and Yamcha was so weak?

Are they actually distantly related to noseless and three-eyed aliens?

Jace Nelson
Jace Nelson

Why should I care if you drop it? I liked this part, it showed off her spirit and personality. Whether you like it or not doesn't effect me.

Thomas Scott
Thomas Scott

There are a lot of instances of hybrids in nature being stronger/more fit than pure-breeds.

Ayden Morgan
Ayden Morgan

That's a good way to see things, but if you're not using his viewpoint to fuel the debate, you shouldn't read Internets

Nathan Hernandez
Nathan Hernandez

Like?

Chase Kelly
Chase Kelly

Not that user, but:

Mules
Dogs
Poultry
Corn
Rice
Bears
Some species of big cats
Onions
Broccoli

...wait shit THAT'S why Broly was so strong!

Blake Nelson
Blake Nelson

He's going to be even more involved in the next arc. The Future Trunks returns one.

Adam Diaz
Adam Diaz

What dog can beat a wolf?

Justin Brooks
Justin Brooks

a wolf-dog that has had its potential awoken

Samuel Allen
Samuel Allen

At what age?

Benjamin Cook
Benjamin Cook

not because Goku trained her
Finally Super served to prove my point. At this point we could say Piccolo trained her, but she just wanted to impress her grandpa Piccolo, her daddy and mommy for the tournament.

Lucas Thompson
Lucas Thompson

Wolfdogs.

Joseph Lopez
Joseph Lopez

10 year old, after that they kind of decline

Christian Hernandez
Christian Hernandez

Baby Pan flied around the world without getting tired, 4 years old Pan is tired after flying around the world. Fucking logic.

Christopher Robinson
Christopher Robinson

So now Pan being strong at age 4 is not because Goku trained her, but because she's just got bloodline powers?
Why the fuck would you have not thought that it was bloodline shit? Was the epilogue literally your fucking introduction to the series?

Luke Adams
Luke Adams

Except the MC's face on EVERY shot.

Easton Russell
Easton Russell

premise of a delicious female SSJ
'I'm out of here'

You won't be missed.

Nathaniel Smith
Nathaniel Smith

nigga babys have the more energy than people dream of.

Isaac Cook
Isaac Cook

female SSJ
The only thing close to a female SSJ you are going to get is pic related.

Thomas Nelson
Thomas Nelson

When will Tarble come back, and is he even canon?

Nicholas Carter
Nicholas Carter

SOON

Alexander Diaz
Alexander Diaz

Source is where

Jeremiah Nguyen
Jeremiah Nguyen

That's not really Lamarckian genetics. It's more like extremely accelerated genetics with an ambiguous definition of what is a learned skill and what is a natural ability.

Dominic Gray
Dominic Gray

Shhhhhhh
No one heard you, just delete this and we'll forget about it ok

Bentley Sanders
Bentley Sanders

He was canon when BoG was released, but i think he's not anymore since they didn't mention him in Super.

Jace Rodriguez
Jace Rodriguez

They didn't mention the whole Trunks/Mai relationship in super either.

Cameron Price
Cameron Price

They didn't mention the whole Trunks/Mai relationship in super either.
Goddamnit Toriyama

Connor Collins
Connor Collins

Goddamnit Toei
ftfy retard

Bentley Robinson
Bentley Robinson

I never realized how much I liked Chichi until I saw those shots where her hair isn't in a bun.

Josiah Long
Josiah Long

What happened? The nips seemed to like it. The PTAs ruined the fun again?

Ryder Stewart
Ryder Stewart

Impying the first Future Trunks and the second Future Trunks aren't two different people

The four-timeline theory is a sham for the uninitiated. The real answer is far more complicated.

Aiden Sanchez
Aiden Sanchez

Piccolo can't stick back to his evil root

Somewhere in hell, I'm sure his dad (read: mother) is faceslamming into a wall.

Gavin Cooper
Gavin Cooper

He's not canon, he's from a silly OVA that doesn't make any sense. How could Vegeta possibly have a little brother?

Wyatt Wood
Wyatt Wood

Is Pan stronger than Broly?

Samuel Reyes
Samuel Reyes

Baby Pan flied around the world without getting tired

She went to sleep after that

Nathan Rodriguez
Nathan Rodriguez

Piccolo is his dad. If he wasn't then Kami would have died when Piccolo died the first time.

Parker Cox
Parker Cox

Goku is sick
Future Trunks all over again

New Android Saga confirmed?

Robert Young
Robert Young

there's an infinite number of future Trunks because each action changes the future
this particular timeline that is the show just happens to be the one where only 3 Future Trunks showed up

Jayden Anderson
Jayden Anderson

Go fuck yourself, this episode was great.

Angel Sullivan
Angel Sullivan

and hammers out a general plot, the guys at Toei do the rest.
Love this meme.

Easton Garcia
Easton Garcia

Time travel is confusing, that's why it's forbidden.

Logan Evans
Logan Evans

Get worried about Goku when he's sick or hurt
Cares about her kids
Only gets mad at Goku when he does stupid shit like destroy their home
Makes him 200lbs of food every night
She's top tier.

Also, don't know if any subs are out yet, but Goku told Bulma "I definitely didn't come to your house to stare at your saggy tits." Shit was hilarious.

Caleb Wilson
Caleb Wilson

Anything is stronger that something non canon.

Elijah Phillips
Elijah Phillips

I figured you faggots on Sup Forums would like this episode. Fuck all I want is a DBZ 2.0, but every single week I am disappointed. My dream will never be real. Slice of life terrible animation filler tier garbage and gag jokes, fucking makes me sick. You know powerlevels are out of control when a baby can do something it took goku, the most talented fighter, years to learn.

Evan Cook
Evan Cook

I liked the episode up until this point.

It doesn't really defy DBZ logic in any way, I mean, Broly saved his father from an exploding planet when he was a baby.

I guess my gripes begin and end with yet another moment of what could have been a cool Piccolo highlight having been overlooked, and that Pan's development in terms of power isn't looking very interesting already.

Julian Garcia
Julian Garcia

Is anything really stronger than the delusion of non canon fanwank?

And I figured offboard retards would complain, just like every week. Go back to watching GT dubs.

Elijah Wood
Elijah Wood

Pafu-subs are

Ethan Sullivan
Ethan Sullivan

Pan's development in terms of power isn't looking very interesting already.
There are still people that take power levels so seriously that they're concerned with the power level of an infant
Holy shit. You can't make this stuff up.

Jaxson Carter
Jaxson Carter

I sensed some major foreshadowing with Pan gazing at the stars and them showing it for so damn long.

Was it a reference to GT? or maybe in a future arc Pan will travel the galaxy like in GT but slightly different reasons?

Or will Xenoverse be canon and Pan & Trunks go out to all the universes to correct the timelines for the kais?

Time will tell.

Ryan Jones
Ryan Jones

Fuck all I want is a DBZ 2.0,
GT hasn't gone anywhere if you want your knockoff DBZEEEEEE

Slice of life terrible animation filler tier garbage and gag jokes, fucking makes me sick
I bet you think Goku and Krillin meeting Launch was "filler."

You know powerlevels are out of control when a baby can do something it took goku, the most talented fighter, years to learn.
Yeah, fucking Gohan how can he be stronger than his dad and Piccolo combined?

Charles Rivera
Charles Rivera

Am I the only one who admits to liking power levels?

Jordan Adams
Jordan Adams

I don't know what those are. I just know that all subs for this show up late and there's no simulcast, so I figured I tell people about the joke.

The decendant of a borderline God wants to reach out and touch the stars. Goku then tells her that if he weren't sick, he'd take her to the sky. It's nothing super crazy, the children of great men reaching for stars is nothing new.

Jeremiah Martinez
Jeremiah Martinez

Hahahaha, just enjoy it for what it is

Evan Wilson
Evan Wilson

I liked seeing Goku use kaiouken times 10 in God mode, and I think there should be SOME consistency in that Majin Buu shouldn't be able to fight Goku and Vegeta now. Anyone who says "The scouter put X character 5 points higher than Y so X NEEDS to win!" should kill themself.

Christian Hill
Christian Hill

Literally the first subs to come out, right after the RAWs. 10 hours to be exact.

Joshua Reed
Joshua Reed

Nope I think it was foreshadowing and you're just a retard.

Jacob Carter
Jacob Carter

Ah, and they're English instead of Spanish. Cool. How are they in terms of accuracy and readability in English?

Charles Stewart
Charles Stewart

people unironically defending dragon ball super

Has to be 3rd worlders right?

Jacob Bennett
Jacob Bennett

Sup Forums is all about being contrarian, which ironically means people try to conform to the unpopular opinion. That's why these threads are filled with who claim to like Dragon Ball but hate all of the good things about it.

Brandon Mitchell
Brandon Mitchell

If they aren't native English speakers, I couldn't tell.

Zachary Carter
Zachary Carter

Foreshadowing for what? She's the granddaughter of demi-god and she will inevitably become somewhat of legend herself. Are you retarded?

GT/Xenoverse bullshit
Guess that answers my question.

Cool.

Has to be 3rd worlders right?
Japns and Americans who don't think the toonami dub is the definitive version love it. Get over it.

Lincoln Perez
Lincoln Perez

underage b& that's jelly people have a nostalgia show that's actually good

Joseph Adams
Joseph Adams

GT and Xenoverse have to do with Pan traveling the universe.

If Pan was just looking at the sky like any infant does and go "ooh pretty" then fine, but they really sat on it and made it pretty obvious that it was foreshadowing something related to the stars.

You retard.

Joseph Powell
Joseph Powell

Underage/10

Michael Gutierrez
Michael Gutierrez

So now Pan being strong at age 4 is not because Goku trained her, but because she's just got bloodline powers?

What is Goten? What is Trunks?

Ryan Parker
Ryan Parker

mad

Lincoln Nguyen
Lincoln Nguyen

It's been established that half-breeds have more potential to be strong than purebreeds, /pol/.

Thomas Bailey
Thomas Bailey

GT and Xenoverse have to do with
Noncanon fanwank. No on cares, fuck off.

John Ortiz
John Ortiz

Fuck all I want is a DBZ 2.0
You are going to get evil nigger Goku and Future Trunks. And it's going to be shit, hope you are happy.

Joshua Allen
Joshua Allen

It still exists.

Joshua Bell
Joshua Bell

because Goku training pan and bonding with her was a sweet way to end the series, and pan's power was in a way an expression of how close the two were.
He wasn't that close to her in the End of Z though, considering how he was just fine with leaving her behind once Uub pops up. He doesn't even say farewell words to her in the manga.

Besides, he did show interest in training her this episode.

Like last time, I write an outline of the entire plot, then the script writers break it up into episodes, expanding on things, changing things around, or adding in new bits as need be.

I write an outline of the entire plot,

No user, you're the meme.

Oliver King
Oliver King

I am going to laugh so hard when they make Xenoverse canon and your anus is eternally BTFO.

Ian Perry
Ian Perry

Holy shit. You can't make this stuff up.

Is it so ridiculous to want to see her work towards becoming stronger rather than - BABY STRONK! HAHA SO FUNNY.

That's boring. You're boring. I was looking forward to Pan's adventures.

Daniel Ross
Daniel Ross

we take what we can get, a creator only has a limited time to tell their story, some do, some don't. Be happy that Akira Toriyama's still here (61 years old) to share with us his stuff

Noah Harris
Noah Harris

What if it's related to her helping tap into Goku's super saiyan god powers when she was still in Pan's womb? It's stupid, but at least it would make some sense.

Carson Miller
Carson Miller

The dialogue was more about her wanting to fly, which ties into her first scene from the end of Z. GT Pan had no love for the stars. She slipped into the ship to prove that she was an adult.

Owen Rodriguez
Owen Rodriguez

dragon babbies

LMAO

Move on with your lives nigga, the show you loved so much no longer exists, deal with it, let it die.

Nathan Watson
Nathan Watson

In your head, sure. It's not part of the story any more than fanfic is.

I write an outline of the entire plot,
Oh, and you know what that outline entails and how much is changed? Great, go ahead and post it. The only actual info we have to go on is that Toriyama hates having other people write his characters for him, but I'm sure your theory that he just gives them a bare bones skeleton to work with holds plenty of weight.

Justin Nguyen
Justin Nguyen

the show you loved so much no longer exists

currently airing show no longer exists

K-on fags, ladies and gentlemen.

Benjamin Torres
Benjamin Torres

Is it so ridiculous to want to see her work towards becoming stronger rather than - BABY STRONK! HAHA SO FUNNY.
Actually, yes. You're very stupid.

But it's back in all it's glory. Super is everything I ever wanted in a Dragonball sequel. Sometimes I still can't believe it's really happening.

Mason Roberts
Mason Roberts

Pedophile

LMAO

The 10 year old moe girls you love to fawn over are illegal.

Luke Moore
Luke Moore

Doesn't mean they won't take from it.

Hudson Parker
Hudson Parker

Uhh.. there are no ladies on this board.

Aaron Cruz
Aaron Cruz

Actually, it does. Xenoverse is a mishmash of everything and nothing, and GT is outright contradicted by Super.

Alexander Harris
Alexander Harris

some clay shit
haha how the fuck can you like something i don't like
not liking Dragon Ball
doesn't realize that this comfy SOL gag anime is the essence of Dragon Ball
into the trash it goes

Kevin Moore
Kevin Moore

Actually, no. Your opinion is retarded.

Hang yourself.

Jaxon Sullivan
Jaxon Sullivan

Japns and Americans who don't think the toonami dub is the definitive version love it. Get over it.
Cut this crap. Super is a shitty anime just like every other Dragon Ball anime Toei shat out. Anyone who halfway understands what makes the manga so good is aware of this. You animefags are all the same, both the Funimation nostalgics and the hipster weeaboos. If you really want to be a purist read the goddamned source material.

Julian Morgan
Julian Morgan

I want serious power levels and training from a baby
Let that sink in.

Benjamin Wood
Benjamin Wood

Oh, and you know what that outline entails and how much is changed? Great, go ahead and post it. The only actual info we have to go on is that Toriyama hates having other people write his characters for him, but I'm sure your theory that he just gives them a bare bones skeleton to work with holds plenty of weight.

Previously, you took extreme issue even with the usage of the word "outline". Now, the problem is that we don't know how detailed that outline is.

You know, we do have a manga and anime, both based on that outline, with some significant differences between them at times when looking at specific details, but also some parts that are nearly identical and also overall plot similarities.

The only actual info we have to go on is that Toriyama hates having other people write his characters for him
In that recent manga interview he suggested that the Toyotaro should actually add more to the series.

Heck, just look at these episodes between the Universe 6 tournament and the upcoming Goku Black arc. We've been getting Toriyama's designs for every relevant new character appearing in Super so far but suddenly we got nothing for these aliens from the next few weeks, Gohan this week or the false Monaka last week. Do you really think that this isn't odd at all?

Adam Sanders
Adam Sanders

Actually, scratch that....Super sucks just as much as the original.

John Rogers
John Rogers

Who is Black Goku???

Landon Fisher
Landon Fisher

I'm not talking about literally making the entire thing canon, but pieces of it that they like.

Cameron King
Cameron King

Time Breaker Bardock

Caleb Garcia
Caleb Garcia

I'M DA BLACK GOKU

Nicholas Gray
Nicholas Gray

If you really want to be a purist read the goddamned source material.
Super is the current source material, you fucking idiot.

Previously, you took extreme issue even with the usage of the word "outline". Now, the problem is that we don't know how detailed that outline is.
You still have no point, and pull shit out of your ass then pretend you (mis)interpretation is fact. Stop spreading your bullshit.

In that recent manga interview he suggested that the Toyotaro should actually add more to the series.
The anime is the primary medium now. The manga is a different telling, and Toriyama is happy to see a young and eager mangaka make his own version. I don't see an issue with Toyotaro asking and Toriyama letting him change it up.

Do you really think that this isn't odd at all?
No, I think the only thing that's odd is your wild misinterpretation of how the series is made, and your adamant assertion based on no information at all. You just desperatly want to project that Toriyama is doing as little as possible on this, and the lies you spread in every thread are annoying.

Grayson Martin
Grayson Martin

Dr. Goku.

Leo Barnes
Leo Barnes

Mr. Popo

Aiden Gray
Aiden Gray

There is nothing wrong with being a pedophile. Toriyama himself is a pedophile.

Jason Carter
Jason Carter

spic/10

Daniel Rogers
Daniel Rogers

That's cute, but no. I'd like for there to be something left to progress towards in much later installments - perhaps 8 years down the road, rather than having Pan zipping around as a super babby.

That is not by any means ridiculous.

But why would I ever expect you to even think about that when you're enjoying yourself enough already by making declarative statements without even trying to wrap your head around what I am saying?

Starve.

Jaxon Adams
Jaxon Adams

WE WUZ SAIYANS N SHIET

Jason Long
Jason Long

i'm i the only one who realized how cute chi-chi is with her hair down and no makeup

David Morris
David Morris

My god, you're stupider than I could have imagined.

Enjoy pretending the super serious Xenoverse/GT shit is canon and that you'll ever see Toriyama write anything about that crap.

Thomas Carter
Thomas Carter

Replying to obvious bait

Zachary Rivera
Zachary Rivera

No, you weren't. It's weird how she's around 4 years younger than Bulma but is already a grandmother.

Aaron Miller
Aaron Miller

Super is the source material in the same way GT was the source material, i.e., no it isn't you goddamned retard. It's an anime original sequel.

Elijah Thompson
Elijah Thompson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b0oQkjup4Q

Leo Lewis
Leo Lewis

The problem with Dragonball is that it attracts so many retards, I can't even tell if you're serious.

Eli Smith
Eli Smith

Goku left Gohan at the lookout so he could go home and bang Chichi

I never realized this until now

Oliver Barnes
Oliver Barnes

Holy shit that's an old ass doujin, remember 1 of my first faps.

Leo Martinez
Leo Martinez

the strongest and 2nd strongest girls in DBVerse sighting in one episode

Christian Wright
Christian Wright

Gohan does it in DBZ against Raditz when he was a baby, dealing damage when even his father couldn't.
DBZfags applaud and fangasm over him forever as super potential kid

Pan does the same, but she doesn't even beat someone on Raditz level or anything, and instead just shows "some" power
DBZfag denounces it saying its shit forever

I wonder when we can just admit its nostalgiafagging?

Nicholas Hughes
Nicholas Hughes

Oh, so you mean like Gohan then. Who we know never received training early on, yet had a fluctuating power level higher than his father when he was 4 years old.

Yep, DBS really dropped the ball here.

Jaxon Ward
Jaxon Ward

I wish there was a similar doujin about Chichi's and Goku's wedding night.

Carter Diaz
Carter Diaz

...That's not a doujin....

Carson Martinez
Carson Martinez

...
...

Tyler Gray
Tyler Gray

... What? ...

Matthew King
Matthew King

So now Pan being strong at age 4 is not because Goku trained her, but because she's just got bloodline powers?
You do realize Gohan was 4 at the beginning of DBZ, right?

Landon Lee
Landon Lee

I don't watch Super because it's shit, but Gohan did it when he was four and his father was being tortured to death in front of him. I think that's different from Pan's situation in this episode.

Lincoln Hall
Lincoln Hall

...chillax...

Jose Cooper
Jose Cooper

I enjoyed this cameo. Shame it didn't go on longer.

Elijah Walker
Elijah Walker

Alright you got me.

Christian Murphy
Christian Murphy

Pan wanted to save Pilaf's group and herself.

Robert Hall
Robert Hall

GOKU BURAKKU*

Owen Walker
Owen Walker

That's not a doujin
what?

Owen Hernandez
Owen Hernandez

She was locked inside a robot that was shooting into space uncontrollably with no hope of survival otherwise.

Jack Young
Jack Young

all of the slice of life shit is super comfy
literally the only good parts of the show
they still insist on doing edgy shit like Future Trunks 2: Electric Boogaloo
I really wish they just wouldn't

James Lewis
James Lewis

Pan was blessed with powers from her parents, her grandpa, her uncles, Vegeta and Trunks while she was still in her mom's womb.

Make sense to me.

Kayden Morris
Kayden Morris

Think she'll go Super Cyan before the series is over?

Jason Reyes
Jason Reyes

I'm hoping Future Trunk is a lead in to Time Patrol or something.

Liam Powell
Liam Powell

Agreed. All I really want is more Pan and Piccolo or more Satan and family moments.

Julian Hill
Julian Hill

My DB waifu keeps getting redeemed. And ya'll thought she actually spend all that money instead of saving like best wife.

Her, Goku and Goten are adorable. Goten's such a mommy's boy.

She's the reason I fucking love slice of life episodes.

Nolan Wilson
Nolan Wilson

So is Goku going to be unable to fight in the upcoming Future Trunks arc? Are they going to do that as an excuse for other characters to have a turn to do something?

I would like that, but he'll probably end up getting better at the end and beating the bad guy anyway. Goku always steals the limelight from everyone else.

Cooper Lopez
Cooper Lopez

Even mad Chichi looked beautiful

Isaiah Morales
Isaiah Morales

oh I love Chichi's chichis

Cooper Flores
Cooper Flores

Is Gohan literally the best father in this entire series?

Spends time with his family
Turns down jobs that would make it so he can't see them

I mean I know that's not saying that much but compared to Goku and Vegeta Gohan is a fucking star of a parent (in the sense that he's an actual parent who spends time with his kid).

Hudson Gray
Hudson Gray

arale
This made me smile, i hope she turns up again

Juan Parker
Juan Parker

Chichi lied about being broke so that Goku would be motivated to keep his job
Beerus Jackie Chun'd as Monaka so that Goku would be motivated to keep training

It's like pottery

Evan Ward
Evan Ward

jaw and crotch hit at the same time

But Arale is not a technical fighter. She will just tackle Cell so hard he goes a trip around the globe.

Evan Watson
Evan Watson

DBS is more canon now than the manga. Everything that happened in the time skip after the manga is out of the fucking window. The story has been already far too inconsistent with it. There's no way they can go back to that now.

Jaxson Peterson
Jaxson Peterson

Eh, to be fair he's the only one that seemed to really know what he was getting into with a kid.

Vegeta is... tsundere extreme, but always seems to be trying.

Goku and Chichi were too young, and it's pretty easy to assume Chichi pretty much pushed a kid onto to him because that's what you're meant to do after getting married.

Jonathan Butler
Jonathan Butler

But that's not Vegeta

kept his promise to bring trunks (reluctantly?) for a family's trip
teaching a kid about pride
knocked Trunks down to prevent him from fighting Buu early on

Kayden Scott
Kayden Scott

I really hope GT won't be canon. That had a far shittier plot than DBS so far.

Justin Mitchell
Justin Mitchell

Is the president of the world still a dog person?

Jacob Nguyen
Jacob Nguyen

Why? Goku and Chichi had Gohan long before Bulma and Vegeta even met.

Jose Howard
Jose Howard

Will probably show up to Trunk's sport game thing that Bulma talked about this episode

Let's be real, Goku wouldn't remember

Camden Morgan
Camden Morgan

after the manga
I meant after Buu.

Benjamin Long
Benjamin Long

that fucking moment when vegeta hugs trunks and then hits him on the head to knock him out so he doesn't fight buu
still makes me cry like a bitch

Parker Howard
Parker Howard

How old was Bulma when she had Trunks? ...over 28? Probably like 30.

Fuck how old is she when she's meant to have Bra?

Chichi is a country hick that had kids earlier, whereas Bulma is a career woman who had kids late.

Carson Wright
Carson Wright

Dragon Ball Super went full retard with this "super saiyan baby" thing

John Jackson
John Jackson

super saiyan baby

Carson Morales
Carson Morales

Trunks would be broken in sports kind like Gohan was at baseball.

Anthony Rogers
Anthony Rogers

She was like 32-33 when she had Trunks and roughly 47 when she had Bra.

Caleb Torres
Caleb Torres

Age doesn't really matter in that family, her dad has always looked the same since dragon ball as well as her mom (who's suposed to be like 75 now), and Tights is like 50+ but looks way younger.

William Ramirez
William Ramirez

He's king, not president. So probably.

Gavin Harris
Gavin Harris

I like your style of thinking

Carter Nelson
Carter Nelson

Drawn manifestation of toriyamas bull he keeps prepping every night in cuck shed

Justin Howard
Justin Howard

Will they ever revive King Kai?

Nolan Lee
Nolan Lee

In the manga their first and last appearances are only 16 years apart, so it's not totally unreasonable for adults to not really look different.

But then Jaco gave them an 18 year old daughter 11 years before the series started, and Super has them still looking the same 44 years after that. It's probably safe to assume that they're immortal.

Anthony Johnson
Anthony Johnson

They wished him back along with the rest of Cell's victims but he chose to stay dead so he could show Goku around the afterlife. Apparently Bubbles did too.

Easton Collins
Easton Collins

Nigga THIS is a retcon.

But it's not

Dragon Ball was originally in Japanese you retarded newfag

Elijah Bailey
Elijah Bailey

everyone and everything has very long lifespans in the dragon ball universe

isn't master roshi like 300 years old and fortuneteller baba like 500?

Gabriel Stewart
Gabriel Stewart

DB has always been about generational change, with Goku standing still within the vortex

Jace Moore
Jace Moore

Gohan was a planet buster when he was 6. Gohan was a solar system-buster when he was ~10. I forget exactly, the time chamber's weird.

I see no issue. She's weaker than our previous super child.

Camden Lopez
Camden Lopez

they are very rare examples

Aiden Powell
Aiden Powell

roughly 47 when she had Bra
And how many birth defects does that poor girl have now?

Jackson Scott
Jackson Scott

This. Pan didn't even get up to space by herself, she took a rocket up there. This still seems unchallenged.

Bentley Harris
Bentley Harris

I don't know what numbers mean
Trunks warned against Artificial Humans #19 and #20 originally. It was retconned.

It's official. You're a retard.

Jacob Johnson
Jacob Johnson

if they are gonna see future trunks again, how the fuck did future trunks survive against majin buu?

Nathaniel Fisher
Nathaniel Fisher

he probably never gave babidi a chance to revive buu

future trunks is the only character that got the job done

Aiden Carter
Aiden Carter

Roshi trained with Karin 300 years before Goku did, so he's probably between 300 and 400. Baba's his older sister, but there's no hint how much older. It can't be too much of a difference though, unless their parents were also really long lived.

Roshi drank an elixir of immortality, and Baba has enough magic knowledge to easily make herself immortal. There's also the immortal Phoenix and the Dragon Balls, so there's plenty of ways to become immortal.

All the other characters age normally, including Bulma, so Bulma's parents are probably immortal somehow. Either that or Toriyama doesn't really care about stuff written more than a decade after the manga ended.

Carter Gutierrez
Carter Gutierrez

true without ss2 gohans power the egg would of taken a life time to hatch buu, he would of had to kill babidi and all his minions at least

Jack Cooper
Jack Cooper

You say "official", but I say "nowhere in the manga and in fact contradicted by it". Tell me, why did the Trunks that Cell killed try to go back a year before Freeza came to Earth? Can your pitiful 4 timeline theory explain that?

Sebastian Walker
Sebastian Walker

Roshi trained with Karin 300 years before Goku did, so he's probably between 300 and 400. Baba's his older sister, but there's no hint how much older. It can't be too much of a difference though, unless their parents were also really long lived.
Baba is over 500 years old, their mother is still alive in Dragon Ball.

Grayson Cook
Grayson Cook

There was never any disagreement.

Dominic Harris
Dominic Harris

over 300 years old and is still horny as fuck all the time
HOW

Jason Thomas
Jason Thomas

To destroy 17 and 18 before they're activated and stop Gero way before he can be a threat.

James Lopez
James Lopez

But that Trunks had already defeated the androids of his time. That's why Cell stole the time machine in the first place. Why would he need to stop the Androids in the past if he could already stop hem in the present? Why would he go back a full four years before the Androids were activated? How would he give Goku the medicine if Goku was still on Yadrat at the time? Your theory is full of holes.

Zachary Wright
Zachary Wright

I don't know where you got this but I'm pretty sure it wasn't the manga

Blake Sanders
Blake Sanders

Baba has been fortunetelling for over 500 years.

She complains when Roshi is there that he hasn't visited their mother in a long time.

Ian Powell
Ian Powell

The remote control was used in the unseen timeline and his own, he didn't kill them of his own power.

He was going to travel back to before Goku arrived, prevent 17 and 18's activation directly, and probably kill Gero. It wouldn't have affected his timeline or the one he visited, but it would have stopped them from ever appearing in another timeline.

Liam James
Liam James

I'll tell when you're done like I told this dog

Xavier Peterson
Xavier Peterson

She complains when Roshi is there that he hasn't visited their mother in a long time.
that was a joke line invented by funimation

Charles Wilson
Charles Wilson

Thought it was in the manga too. Did Viz add that in as well?

Juan Anderson
Juan Anderson

sickfuck

Ryder Perry
Ryder Perry

No way Roshi is 200 years younger than his sister, he has like 310 years while Baba has 320.

Parker Long
Parker Long

Baba has been a fortuneteller for over 500 years. Roshi is less than 400 years old.

Jace White
Jace White

yfw pan wll become the youngest ssj
yfw stronger than goten and trunks
yfw vegeta test her merit and she ends up defeating him in a ssj1 only battle
yfw super ends with goku dying and the torch being passed to pan
yfw next series follows a teenage pan, goten, trunks and arale, as they go on saiyan adventures and protect the universe from constant threats
yfw gohan still shit

Brody Miller
Brody Miller

New Fusion unveiled at http://dbpf.bn-ent.net/system/

Krillin + ????
Goku? Yamcha?

Luis Rogers
Luis Rogers

Nah. Goku won't die, he'll train Pan alongside Uub. Pan will eventually inherit Mr. Satan's gym too, as his successor.

Michael Wilson
Michael Wilson

http://dbpf.bn-ent.net/system/
Tiencha confirmed
This better get localized.

Jaxon Thomas
Jaxon Thomas

It looks a lot like Gorillin, same hair, same everything except the skin is darker, the face is more adult looking with a pointier chin, and the gi is yellow. Everything else is the same. I'm guessing it's Krillin and adult Goku.

Brayden Russell
Brayden Russell

Krillin+Gohan=Kurihan it was in a magazine

Sebastian Miller
Sebastian Miller

Gohan was thrown against a huge rock by Picoro without any kind of training at all and he obliterated it.
Pan was part of Goku's change into SSG. So she powered up even inside Videl's womb. Also, Videl is flyer and a ki user (although hers is pretty small), and she felt all of that inside her womb.
Then she was born and she was constantly around ki users, guys that had so strong a ki they can destroy planets. Babies learn a sick amount of things when they are born. They absorb everything around them at incredible speed. It's not only in their blood and in their nature, she was exposed to it since before she was born, so it's only natural she learned to use it herself. The same way the kid of a musician may learn how to play an instrument (at least rudimentary) just by observing his father do it.

Ryan Rogers
Ryan Rogers

Those must be from the anime, they're not in he manga.

Kevin Ross
Kevin Ross

Baba's fortunetelling is in the manga, she was noted as having done it for 500 years.

Aaron Rivera
Aaron Rivera

Tiencha's cool.
Future Trunks x Vegeta, Mr. Satan x Boo, Raditz x Nappa, and a 5-way fusion are also confirmed.

Cell x Freeza is implied.

It's looking like there will be quite a lot of fusions, although obviously not everybody x everybody else.

I'm hoping for Piccolo x Kaioshin/Dabura.

It's a bit odd that no Super content has been shown yet. I hope they don't exclude it.

Gavin Butler
Gavin Butler

Ah, no. I meant the one next to it. Sorry I wasn't clear.

I guess so. That or they revised his look.

Luis Powell
Luis Powell

Post the page, my manga doesn't say anything about 500 years

Christopher Lopez
Christopher Lopez

I'm convinced they're going to reveal at some point saiyans and humans were originally one super strong race and that's why they can interbreed and awaken their true potential.

Charles Johnson
Charles Johnson

That would make sense. The warmongers went one way and retained their tails, and the pussyfests became weak and lost their tails, like their U6 counterparts.

Jaxon Wood
Jaxon Wood

Bulldogs were breeding by the romans to fight bulls, lions and several other animals. Of course, I am talking about the original Bulldog, not the pussies Bulldogs we have now.

Brandon Davis
Brandon Davis

Holy shit. I wish the breed retained those characteristics. It's probably been allowed to degenerate because people have become pussies too.

Romans breed dogs to fight bulls and lions
Modern westerners wet their pants if someone participates in dog fighting

Brayden Hall
Brayden Hall

Superfriends are convinced that this series can do no wrong

Charles Young
Charles Young

this.
He'll be first on live stream.

Jaxon Hernandez
Jaxon Hernandez

wow what a p*ssy

Julian Rogers
Julian Rogers

I think she just had too much fun flying and being in space.

Maybe like her father's hidden power are revealed by anger, hers are revealed by joy.

Connor Lee
Connor Lee

Baby pan just flew strait up then straight down, not around the world

Kayden Green
Kayden Green

Cell x Freeza
I don't see how this can result in something "cool," no tired pun intended. Cell already resembles Freeza.

James Mitchell
James Mitchell

Goku is sure she'll turn super-saiyan some day, at least.

Ian Cooper
Ian Cooper

#19 and #20 were supposed to be the main villains of the arc. But Toriyama's editor said they wouldn't do, so he he made #17, #18 and #16 instead.

They were still not enough, so Toriyama made Cell.

Daniel Harris
Daniel Harris

Fuck off SOLfag

Brody Walker
Brody Walker

We literally super babies now. This shit makes GT look like fine art in comparison.

Ryan Sullivan
Ryan Sullivan

I-If I keep saying it, maybe it will b-b-become TRUE!!!!!
Poor kid.

Cooper Ortiz
Cooper Ortiz

That's my theory as to why she's the only Saiyan who absolutely doesn't care about fighting. She has the Saiyan version of Downs.

To them, someone that doesn't like to fight is literally retarded.

Hudson Lewis
Hudson Lewis

Millenniums getting mad their super serial special DBZeee has gone back to it's roots as a comfy gag show.
I for one welcome it.

Aaron Brown
Aaron Brown

Gohan doesn't seem to care much about fighting. It's something he has to do, not something he likes. Every time there's no threat he slacks off.

Same with Trunks and Goten. They enjoyed fighting each other as a game (and Trunks wanted his dad's affection), but that's pretty much it.

The only hybrid that enjoys training, competing and so on just for the heck of it is Pan.

Ayden Reyes
Ayden Reyes

Retard doesn't know what filler is

Anthony Ortiz
Anthony Ortiz

All of Dragon Ball super is filler then?

Jack Foster
Jack Foster

The previous two movies, the Universal Tournament and the new arc with Trunks and "Black Goku" are canon. Everything else is just filler to give Toriyama time to draw up the new character designs and write the base of the next arc.

Chase Taylor
Chase Taylor

It has still gone back to being a gag manga though. People have been bitching about it from the start because it was not Z.

Thomas Scott
Thomas Scott

thats what i dislike
the gag manga aspect was lost in z because it´s about fighting
now they joke around and there is no "threat" to destroy the world/goku or vegeta/ the saiyans or all the humans
there was just a tournament with no "consequences" but with good fights and reintroducing all the characters

i hope for a new villain and the fight againt him without gag elements at the wrong time

Joshua Thompson
Joshua Thompson

I hate this gag shit fucking slice of life fags need to leave

Jordan Hall
Jordan Hall

Gag=/=SOL
Retards

Nathaniel Davis
Nathaniel Davis

It is both ya spastic, stop putting words in my mouth that is not there.

Alexander Collins
Alexander Collins

Afgans can take down mountain lions

Dylan Roberts
Dylan Roberts

Is Son really their last name? Pan Son/Son Pan sounds awful.

Julian Sanchez
Julian Sanchez

technologically advanced race
potentially has access to those super regen bath tubs
magic beans that completely heal everything
magic balls that grants even immortality
can't weed out birth defects
I'm pretty sure they got something.

Julian Long
Julian Long

It's a Monkey King reference, don't question it.

Hunter Smith
Hunter Smith

Dip shit. The anime doesnt cater to western audience in mind.

We laugh at you faggots too when you say the word 'welcome'

Grayson Sanchez
Grayson Sanchez

the entire thing is fiction, mate. Inconsistency exists.

Jason James
Jason James

Arale cameo
DBS is forgiven,

Blake Fisher
Blake Fisher

So the ancient Japanese online forum rumors about Gohan not being the MC after Cell because editor didn't want to might be true then?

Jaxson James
Jaxson James

Not yet, she still needs to have a proper speaking role. Even Oolong had a bigger part so far.

Grayson Gray
Grayson Gray

I'll be mad if she doesn't appears again, the news about her VA being listed for the series went viral a month or so ago

Julian Ortiz
Julian Ortiz

That is one sexy girl, finally someone in DBS who does something for my penis.

Jackson Powell
Jackson Powell

Pan doesn't have a last name. Most characters in Dragon Ball don't.

Angel Fisher
Angel Fisher

Originally, we had bred dogs to be almost Lion sized

David Sanchez
David Sanchez

gag
Evevn Dragon Ball was way more brutal than this shit. I don't want a gore fest, but there's not even blood, there're no threats everyone is just doing sparring matches

Julian Gray
Julian Gray

nips don't say welcome

Filthy fucks don't have matters.

Gavin Parker
Gavin Parker

Go play in traffic you fucking beaner, the Slice Of Life shit isn't perfect but I'd rather they do average SOL Dragon Ball than absolute bottom-tier fighting and edginess, which they've proven without a doubt through the Resurrection F and Tournament Saga's that they can't do. Modern Toei will not be able to do Future Trunks justice, they should have kept him in the past (kek) and just carried on with the shit they're good at

Ian Johnson
Ian Johnson

Yes and she appeared this episode, that's it.

Kayden Rivera
Kayden Rivera

Koyama hyping her role in DBS a month before
only to voice Arale's catchphrases for 3 seconds

Isaac Gonzalez
Isaac Gonzalez

It is more of action-adventure-comedy show.

If you want a gag show, there is Dr. Slump for you.

Dylan Russell
Dylan Russell

Goku didn't even properly greet his old acquaintance
This guy is a supreme idiot.

Isaiah Robinson
Isaiah Robinson

Goku has a track record for not remembering people he has met before iirc

Daniel Howard
Daniel Howard

Could you remember someone you met for twenty minutes minutes over 30 years ago?

Kayden Long
Kayden Long

Goku never said he wanted to train Pan, he said she could turn SSJ in no time.
They are going to defeat some jobbers, then cry in angst for Goku.

Nathaniel Ramirez
Nathaniel Ramirez

Are you people serious?
Are you aware what series you are watching?

Adrian Turner
Adrian Turner

Goten and Trunks enjoyed training with their parents. Vegeta trained Trunks in a regular basis, it could be possible yhe same happened with Goten, he was happy as fuck to train with Gohan. Also they enjoyed fighting each other. Gohan was the special case, Chi Chi raised him to dislike martial arts, but as he grew up he learned to enjoy friendly sparrings.
Pan was raised by parents that liked martial arts, and she was around Satan who wanted to raise her as his sucessor.
I don't know why this is so difficult to understand.
Bra is indeed an special case, she has a shit ton of potential but never displayed any super abilities as far as we can tell.

Wyatt Perry
Wyatt Perry

Gohan is literally 5 in his first appearance

Nolan Robinson
Nolan Robinson

Pikkoyo Jr is a reincarnation of Daimao with ALL memories intact, not his son.
Reread the manga/rewatch the anime.
By all rights he's basically Piccolo Daimao still, just reformed.

Gabriel Taylor
Gabriel Taylor

Goku steals the spotlight
So weird right? Is almost like Goku is the MC . This people act like Dragon Ball is some kind of shonen show/manga.

Jacob Walker
Jacob Walker

Gag is not the same as slice of life. Battles are executed bad, the plot nd the characters are retarded, the non-Goku and Vegeta characters only exist to be made fun of. Super is fucking shit, except for the SoL episodes.

Jackson Scott
Jackson Scott

Not him, but you know what he is talking about. Stop talking with a stick in your butt.

Lucas Long
Lucas Long

Pretty sure it was mentioned in a interview somewhere that Tien is the descendant of a Cyclops race, No idea on Krillin though.

Easton Walker
Easton Walker

No, he is 4.

Brayden Flores
Brayden Flores

More like yin and yang shit. Opposites attract. Symbiosis. That kind of thing.

Brayden Evans
Brayden Evans

All things considered all of the 'edgy' plots can easily lead into comfy plotlines like Vegeta training Cabba possibly or Trunks fucking around with his younger self and Goten.

Leo Young
Leo Young

I'm glad to see more anons appreciating some good chi-chi.

Cooper Bell
Cooper Bell

Actually Gohan was originally 3, but Toriyama retconned it literally the next chapter.

Caleb James
Caleb James

Yeah, but by the end of Z Goten and Trunks grew more detached to martial arts. Both skips training in favor of different interests (like dating with Goten) and are more or less forced by their dad to join the Tenkachi Budokai.

Of course there's extenuating reasons: they leave in an era of peace again with no threat on the horizon. They're not full-blood Saiyans who only think of fighting and training. And they're teens, so I guess it's normal to want something more than just train all day every day like their dads.

For Bra, well, she's younger than Pan and Bulma thought Pan was maybe too young to compete in the tournament. So maybe she isn't trained yet. Gohan wasn't either until Radditz killed Gohan and Piccolo kidnapped him (however Goku wanted to start training with him before but Chichi forbid it). Who knows, maybe she'd want to learn a bit too later.

Ryan Collins
Ryan Collins

I like dragon ball super

Landon Howard
Landon Howard

Artist had a nice attention to detail.

William Fisher
William Fisher

What is hybrid vigor? Get into biology.

Nicholas Baker
Nicholas Baker

this is probably my least favorite thing Toriyama has done. There's literally no reason to retcon Tenshinhan as an alien. Earth is just a weird place where all sorts of weird creatures exist. You don't need to explain that a previously established character is super strong because he's an alien or mutant or something. It was already kind of pushing it when Goku and Piccolo did it, but at least that pushed the story further.
He only brought it up once so I hope it doesn't stay canon.

Anthony Jackson
Anthony Jackson

Goku owes Arale a lot for saving his life from General Blue. Plus, Arale's looks hasn't changed at all so it should be easier to remember.

John Harris
John Harris

Which is stupid. There were/are various threads during those ten years. Hell we are getting Evil Nigger Goku now and who knows how many more threads.
Trunks and Goten getting lazy made sense because the planet was at peace, Vegeta became a softie that forgot about Trunks' training and Goku was always away for his training trips. But Super changed that and still the writters don't want to give them any development.
Same with Bra, Vegeta supposedly started training Trunks when he was 3 years old, Bra's age in the epilogue, Pan as a toddler showed her power but Bra never showed any kind of ability as far as Toriyama showed us.

Jordan Ross
Jordan Ross

It was mentioned on the saiyan arc that Tenshinhan can grow back a lost limb but with time, like a wound, and not instantly like Piccolo

Easton Sanchez
Easton Sanchez

Romans
Not giant pussies
LaughingGoths.codex

Angel Butler
Angel Butler

Yeah, but Tenshinhan litterally knows a technique that allows him to sprout extra arms. I just thought he was gonna use a similar technique to regrow it.
I dunno. If the 3-eyed clan is native to earth I'm cool with it.

Justin Allen
Justin Allen

Toriyama was tired and he couldn't think in something better. Hell, he had to fight for finishing the manga because Shueisha didn't want to allow it, and for a good reason because WSJ sales fell apart after Dragon Ball ended and it never reached the same numbers.

At this point, the writers and Toriyama should seriously consider to retcon the ending. Too much shit already happened to pretend it fits.

Tyler Gomez
Tyler Gomez

To be fair, we are'nt shown much of Bra as of yet, except if you consider GT.

I agree, Super would fit better if it happened after the end of the manga rather than during the timeskip. Sure we'd miss some stuff like Pan being a baby, but some other stuff would make more sense: More time for Gohan to lose in his powers if he slacks off during 10 years rather than just 4, no inconstitency with the ending (like said peace when the Earth was already threatened of destruction by Beerus, destroyed by Frieza, threatened to change universes by Whamp, etc), and the like. Goten and Trunks as teens would be more interesting as teens too, and with Pan, Uub and Bra as the young ones.

But then it would be harder for Goku to both be a mentor and train Uub and go train and fight gods at the same time.

Easton Jackson
Easton Jackson

cyclops =/= alien

cyclops falls under the category of magical/mythical creature, which Earth has plenty of.

Angel Flores
Angel Flores

Funny because you are the one that sounds butthurt over the side characters acting like characters.

Austin Butler
Austin Butler

Why he didn't try to take over the world then?

Iirc he just wanted to avenge his "father" death, before getting infected with Goku fighting's spirit

Jason Reed
Jason Reed

Super takes place 6 months after Buu, the 4 year time skip was only in the BoG movie.
They should definitely retcon EoZ, not because of the inconsistencies but because it's not really a fitting ending to the story.
The only thing good about it is that Goku becomes a Master, so they story kinda goes full circle. Other than that it is shit.
He said he would first kill Goku, then resume to take over the world.
After Goku beat him and showed him mercy he went off to try and get stronger. We next see him fighting alongside Goku.

Jaxson Roberts
Jaxson Roberts

Super saiyan is definitely a genetic trait; my theory is that a parent going super saiyan at any point before conceiving a child guarantees that child will be predisposed to being able to easily transform.

Asher Smith
Asher Smith

Think of him as a reincarnation. He has piccolo's spirit and memories but he's a different person who grew up differently and is a different person overall.

Carter Roberts
Carter Roberts

the side characters acting like characters.
Yes, indeed, Piccolo only exist to be madw fun of, practically the new Yamcha that even weakened Gohan can defeat and whose only job is to job and be Gohan's lovely nanny.
Krillin only exist to cry like a crybaby in the battles and job, the Krillin that faced Super Buu just to give his family time ho escape doesn't exist for Toei even when that was their original content. Same with Videl.

Parker Hughes
Parker Hughes

He also had character development. He accomplished his goal in life (killing Goku) early in Z, grew fond of Gohan, fused with Nail and Kami...

Gavin Thompson
Gavin Thompson

So SSJ Goku Jr. is possible?

Bentley Russell
Bentley Russell

You and the others need to get over the idea that this is a continuation of DBZ. It's been so long how can you expect somebody's idea of something to be the same? Super is basically a new series entirely.

Evan Williams
Evan Williams

watch db super youtube vid
It's Dark Goku not Black Goku
it literally said black. brakku

Dylan Powell
Dylan Powell

But arale is stronger than Goku

Gabriel Johnson
Gabriel Johnson

You should have dropped it like 20 episodes ago.

Only an absolute cretin would still watch this.

Jack Evans
Jack Evans

Did Pan inherent Mystic form?

No wonder Gohan got so fuckin weak

Adrian Walker
Adrian Walker

It just show how lazy Toei is. GT made a better job handling the secundaries personalities, the whole thing with Super was to make a canon good series that erased GT's bad taste.

Isaac Foster
Isaac Foster

I doubt it, that's her base power.

Kevin Smith
Kevin Smith

I honestly wish anyone but Toei was working on this series. Because Toei started aggressively not giving a shit years ago.

Gabriel Reyes
Gabriel Reyes

It's Soulja Boy.

Robert Ward
Robert Ward

filler
when it's an adaptation of itself

kids these days.

James Flores
James Flores

Didn't a couple found Piccolo Jr.?

I don't remember well but I think he burned their house and escaped

Jonathan Morris
Jonathan Morris

It's just bullshit from one of the guidebooks I think, it has no basis in canon.

Nathaniel Robinson
Nathaniel Robinson

You are literally referencing the ocean dub right now.

Kayden Ortiz
Kayden Ortiz

That was a stupid filler episode.

Alexander Young
Alexander Young

http://www.flythroughtime.com/
New DB game coming.
Images on the site that aren't just old posters/cover art are shots of a ruined city in the rain.
Xenoverse 2, or maybe some tie-in game for the new Super arc?

Isaiah Mitchell
Isaiah Mitchell

All I know is I want to be able to play as kid goku in whatever it is. It sucks that most games just ignore that dragonball existed pre-raditz.

Jaxson Hall
Jaxson Hall

Especially since every single person on Earth saw DB before Z and is more fond of it.

Jackson Carter
Jackson Carter

Until sunday?

Gabriel Harris
Gabriel Harris

The 'fly through time' thing and that there's so many images of the various dragonball Z movies and original dragonball (two things there were absent in the first Xenoverse) does strongly imply Xenoverse 2.
Would be surprising if it isn't.

Ayden Miller
Ayden Miller

deal with it faggots
even gt is better than this shit

Nathan Reed
Nathan Reed

Why everyone is shitting on GT? It has better idea and it was about Adventure like the 1st dragon ball was.

Asher Sullivan
Asher Sullivan

arguing about adaptations
/trash/

Christopher Moore
Christopher Moore

Yeah, GT had better ideas than EVIL NIGGER GOKU, that's it. Super is plain bad.

Jose Adams
Jose Adams

come on, don't get mad. I was just asking.

Caleb Nelson
Caleb Nelson

Yeah, the last vilains were pretty good. Too bad that it wasn't well executed and that the script was childish. The thing with the seven shadow dragon was definitively a good idea.

William Lopez
William Lopez

Right. I wanna fight tao pai pai, nam, general blue Jackie Chun, eighter, chi-chi, and all the other characters as kids. The only game that got that right was Tenchaichi 3.
Hell, they even had arale

Levi Davis
Levi Davis

Whatever little content was made public this week was already discussed to death, and now you faggots just want to shitpost because you are bored. Do something else and don't come back until there's actually something to discuss. It's perfectly fine not having 24/7 threads.

Cooper Kelly
Cooper Kelly

EVIL NIGGER GOKU
It's going to be Time Breaker Bardock.

Lucas Howard
Lucas Howard

Now with the Super Dragon Balls existing, that entire plotline is impossible to exist. Earth's shitty little Dragon Balls shouldn't be involved with such OP creatures.
Having said that, I'd absolutely love for the story to finally explore the realm of the dragons and have them as side characters until the end of the show.

Matthew Bailey
Matthew Bailey

If the Super Dragon Balls go black then we'll have a birth of a character with unmatched strength.

Ayden Sanders
Ayden Sanders

that lion

What kind of fucked up lions did Romans breed? That's a fucking chimaera.

Logan Carter
Logan Carter

Pan didn't reach that far into outer space I believe. They were in the last or second last layer. Thats why the pilaf troupe had to hold on to her too.
Yeah there is very little oxygen anyways but I guess a sayian can survive a few seconds like any human could too.
Goku did his space battle with god ki so I don't think that counts

Justin Roberts
Justin Roberts

DBZ 2.0
Ah, someone who watched dubbed Z before reading Dragon Ball or anything Toriyama-related. I love all the angry Zfags who can't handle pure unfiltered Akira Toriyama doing what he wants to do.

Lucas Wood
Lucas Wood

Which chapter would you say was the most similar to this week's episode?

Austin Kelly
Austin Kelly

If Super were just a bunch of nice SoL momments, I would join you in making fun of edgyfags, but Super is just bad it isn't funny.

Caleb Torres
Caleb Torres

Goku as a child went to the Moon once

Mason Russell
Mason Russell

He also broke a panel once. Some of the things in Dragon Ball are just jokes, they don't actually mean anything continuity-wise. Like the times that Toriyama showed up.

Jace Lee
Jace Lee

I don't give a shit what toryama wants, I give a shit what I want. And I am not some pussy who enjoys watching babies fly around. I am a pussy who enjoys watching grown men beat aliens to death. Trust me, if you had good taste you would know the difference.

Grayson Miller
Grayson Miller

Everything I deem too strange is just a joke and doesn't count retroactively in my deep and serious story

I guess the rabbit gang story as a whole wasn't canon then, since the entire point was he put them on the Moon as punishment for their crimes.

Despite that being one of the first stories in the manga.

David Perry
David Perry

Like the times that Toriyama showed up.
implying Super won't eventually reveal that Toriyama is the god that created everything and he becomes the final boss before handing the series off to Toyotaro

Josiah Hernandez
Josiah Hernandez

You should watch wrestling then.

Landon Ross
Landon Ross

Trust me, if you had good taste you would know the difference.
he unironically thinks his shit taste is good taste
o i am laffin

Alexander Fisher
Alexander Fisher

Let's not forget the actual continuity errors, like how the Red Ribbon Army arc can't happen because of what's established about the Dragon Balls' recharge time.

And here come fanboys that go "NO DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE HEADCANON"

Zachary Stewart
Zachary Stewart

That's the thing about dragonball. The series doesn't take itself seriously so much that how am I supposed to take it seriously? Regardless of whether or not they're joke, there's some legitimate gags that have canonical significance. Arale beat general Blue, Invisible man got covered in Nosebleed blood , Ninja Murasaki had the Nyoibo shoved into him, Almost all the characters have been shot by machine guns, and earth survived just fine with an exploded moon (twice). Buu turned people into milk and gave it to a blind kid. Hell, his house is literally made out of people turned to clay.
I don't mind ANY of this stuff, in fact they're probably the biggest reasons I got back into Dragon Ball. But this silly weird stuff still technically happened and it's weird how seriously DBZ tried to take itself between Piccolo Daimo and Cell Saga.

Jose Evans
Jose Evans

So you two probably didn't like the namek saga? That's what I want again. Go read a Dr. Seuss book if you want silly le gag jokes

Aiden Smith
Aiden Smith

Wait...how long after Hunt for the Dragonballs is RR army? I'm assuming less than a year but it was quite a while.

Nolan Lee
Nolan Lee

I enjoyed the Saiyan and Namek saga's, I am very fond of Z. However, I prefer my dragonball light hearted with action on the sides.
Dragonball was like that, and excluding Diamao and Jr the majority of DB is just like that.
8 months iirc

Isaiah Hill
Isaiah Hill

Namek was nowhere near as good as the 22nd Tournament, Red Ribbon, anime's version of King Piccolo, and arguably Saiyans (as retcon-happy as that arc was). Maybe, MAYBE on par with 23rd Tournament.

Namek was better than Buu and leagues better than Cell.

Tell me, WHY should there be something like "Namek again?" HOW can there be something like "Namek again?"

Brayden Sanchez
Brayden Sanchez

But Namek is saved halfway through by the Ginyu force, who're basically just super powerful gag characters. Their whole gimmick is a joke before we get to freeza. If it wasn't for them, the arc would feel like even more of a slog than it does.

Brandon Gomez
Brandon Gomez

8 months, most of those were from Roshi training Goku and Krillin.

Easton Sullivan
Easton Sullivan

Idk how but that's why I am not a mangaka, I want toriyama to pull the rabbit out of the hat for me. Instead he is shitting in my mouth and telling me to swallow.

Joseph Carter
Joseph Carter

This.

Let's not forget how much of a bore Frieza's fight was with all its asspull "This isn't even my final form!" bullshit.

Julian Cruz
Julian Cruz

So you want a plate full of gumdrops and ice cream instead of a proper meal? And you consider anything other than gumdrops and ice cream to be literal shit?

Maybe Dragon Ball isn't the series for you.

Chase Cook
Chase Cook

If we're talking in terms of what tone I would like for Dragonball, I'd say Buu saga nailed it.
It manages to be lighthearted, funny, gag oriented, with a silly pink bubble gum villain that turns people into candy and yet it still manages to be threatening, intense, menacing and have some incredibly meaningful character moments, as well as bring character arcs to a natural conclusion.

Xavier Parker
Xavier Parker

I guess what I should say is that at least there should be a balance between humor and ass kicking, of course dragonball has humor that is what gives it the dragonball feel. But so far super has the shittiest asspull action sequences and humor that insults my intelligence too often.

Oliver Davis
Oliver Davis

I think you just have shit taste.

Ayden Myers
Ayden Myers

Oh boy speaking of super kaioken, why the fuck is the downside just being unable to control ki for a few days? Goku should feel like he has pancreatic cancer not a light cold.

Adrian King
Adrian King

At least they're showing it has consequences when abused.
The most we got before was Goku in pain immediately after using it.

Hunter Bennett
Hunter Bennett

Dragon Ball is a a serious story in a gag manga's universe. It's not that hard to understand.

Colton Lee
Colton Lee

I have read the Freeza fight literally dozens of times and I have never been bored by it once.

Bentley Allen
Bentley Allen

Goku was bedridden in a hospital for over a month after his fight with Vegeta.

Carson Garcia
Carson Garcia

Yeah because Vegeta beat the shit out of him, not because of Kaioken.

David Powell
David Powell

I think it was a little of both.

Jonathan Bailey
Jonathan Bailey

I haven't watched/read all of Super to give that opinion yet, I'm still catching up but I love the lightheartedness with Gods being enticed by food. It just works.

So you want Funi's old, shitty dub. You can do that with a few clicks on YouTube. Does this trigger you?

Brody Ross
Brody Ross

All the human Z Fighters are now weaker than a Sayian baby

This is depressing as shit.

Adrian Cox
Adrian Cox

Vegeta broke both of his legs and crushed his ribs and who knows what else. He was supposed to stay in the hospital for a few months but then the new senzu beans arrived.

Jonathan Anderson
Jonathan Anderson

No. Kaioken doesn't injure the body. Goku was up and running after his fight with Hit easily. Being crushed by a gigantic monkey multiple times is what caused him to be bedridden.

Elijah James
Elijah James

This may come as a surprise to you but the parts about grown men beating aliens to death is from the manga. The manga is like 30% grown men beating aliens to death. It seems to me that you haven't actually read the original manga, and you're under the impression that it wasn't a serious violent story more often than not.

Benjamin Allen
Benjamin Allen

Kaioken was always more of a stamina and ki drain if anything. Pretty much putting everything you got into one short and powerful burst.

Hudson Lopez
Hudson Lopez

No one's saying it wasn't a violent story. What I'm saying is that you're mad that same violent story isn't present with Super when it was already downplayed with Buu. Do you hate Buu being pink and silly while still beating up your musclebound men with no effort?

Joseph Edwards
Joseph Edwards

Are you retard or what? Can you enjoy both? In Z the SoL and action were great togethet. The thing with Super is that the action is pure crap, while the SoL is the only good thing.

Jose Baker
Jose Baker

Because it didnt have toriyama's full investment and contradicted an already contradicting manga.

Super does the same but it's ok if super does it. Oh, and its canon for some reason.

Easton Collins
Easton Collins

The Buu Saga was nothing like Super. Buu was silly but he was a legitimately threatening villain with actually interesting powers.
Dragon Ball didn't have any slice-of-life. You either don't know what slice of life is, or you haven't read Dragon Ball. Probably both.

Charles Jones
Charles Jones

it's weird how seriously DBZ tried to take itself between Piccolo Daimo and Cell Saga.
all those puns
a sentai parody
cartoony designs
cell saga's villain is a bug cosplayer
it was always silly

Ian Diaz
Ian Diaz

Without downplaying Buu, the same can be said for Beerus.
God of Destruction
Easily whooed by food
Can form Z-esque energy balls capable of destroying a planet
Same shit, different execution. Just admit it's nostalgia that keeps you from liking Super. Are you mad Mystic Gohan is no more?

Blame the US dub for making it more serious than it should have been. The guy above you was weened off it.

Gavin Jones
Gavin Jones

How long was Beerus an antagonist again?

Jayden Morgan
Jayden Morgan

Not really, she just know how to fly.

Gohan could boost his powerlevel higher than his dad who trained half his life, including with the local god, when he was only 4.

Next generation is better than the last. Same shit as usual.

Aiden Ortiz
Aiden Ortiz

He still is? What makes you think he's a good guy? If anything he's neutral at best. There's still a chance for him to be considered the antagonist. Anything else? That question makes me believe you're out of steam.

Gabriel Watson
Gabriel Watson

He keep reminding how he can just blow up the Earth if he want to.

Sure he took a liking in the Earthling food, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't take him seriously if he's pissed.

Ayden Green
Ayden Green

What is Beerus' special power? Oh yeah, he's really really strong. He is literally a movie villain. He is in no way a good follow up to Buu and Cell.

I don't even really hate Beerus that much, he and Whis are easily the least shitty part of Super. But they're just so underwhelming compared to what they're supposed to be building upon. Plus Beerus isn't even really a villain.

Jayden Gutierrez
Jayden Gutierrez

Special power
He's a God. He's literally in his own class, a class so strong normal fighters can't even sense his Ki. Even the Gary Stuper Saiyans struggle with him, let alone Whis. That alone gives him a place in the gallery.

And I never said he WAS a villain . The fact that he isn't a villain in the actual sense makes things more interesting. Cell was great until he became a bishie cosplayer. The insectoid form was amazing.

Samuel Baker
Samuel Baker

Woah Woah. Looks like someone didn't read the Great Saiyaman saga.
Or the chapter where Goku goes to West City for the first time
Or the chapter where yamcha and Krillin take Goku shopping for clothes
Or how about Goku and Krillin's training. Training or not, it was very "Slice of Life"y.
How about Mr.Satan and Buu's relationship when they first met, and their budding friendship. Even if it was for plot reasons that shit was comfy.

Aaron Perez
Aaron Perez

Gary Stuper Saiyans
Please, Goku and Vegeta aren't even close to become Gary Stues

Jackson Howard
Jackson Howard

"His power is maximum" doesn't qualify as a special power. Being so strong you can't be hurt and you can beat everyone isn't interesting, it's just lazy.

Blake Thomas
Blake Thomas

I'll give you Vegeta, but Goku is a prime example. Even when Akira tried to turn things to other characters, Japan pushed for Goku. Even Goku himself didn't want to save the day all the time, but alas.

Did I say his power was maximum? You're so asshurt over Super not bringing back Mystic Gohan you're resorting to memes. I never said he was invincible either. He's gotten hit a few times and I'm sure he'll get some more in. The dynamic with him, Whis and Bulma is more interesting than these special powers you keep babbling about.

Wyatt Smith
Wyatt Smith

shouldnt she be much older though?

Liam Torres
Liam Torres

She is a robot

Ayden Wilson
Ayden Wilson

Super offical Twitter it was revealed during a press conference from toei

Asher Morris
Asher Morris

Even Goku himself didn't want to save the day all the time, but alas.
To be fair, the victory in the Saiyan, Cell and Buu Saga, though Goku contributes a lot, are not won only by him.

It's Picolo who kill Radditz, Vegeta was defeated by Goku, Krillin, Yajirobe and Gohan, Gohan defeated Cell with the help of the others, and Goku needed everyone for his genkidama to work: Buu and Vegeta to keep pure Buu at bay while, Kaio for transmission, Dende and the Namek to rebuild Earth and resurrect everyone, and Satan to convince them to give their energy. Even that wasn't enough and Dende had to ask Porunga to refill Goku's own energy.

So while Goku can't get rid of his MC status, I'd say he's far from being a Sue. The only fight he completly win on his own in Z is against Frieza once he became a Super Saiyan.

Oliver Roberts
Oliver Roberts

That's a medieval etching done of what they assumed roman gladiator battles looked like. Around that time, the vast majority of Europeans had never seen an actual lion and so drew them based off of descriptions left by the Greeks and Romans. This is why every heraldic drawing of a lion has a snake's tongue and looks nothing like an actual lion.

Jaxon Miller
Jaxon Miller

But Arale doesn't have any ki, she's a robot! How did he tune into her?

Jose Bell
Jose Bell

I wouldn't call Goku a Stue in Z, but in Super he is forced too damn much. No one can do anything significant and useful anymore, he only loses to villains just to make a le epic come back and even Vegeta has to be BTFO. Toriyama is trying to damn hard trying to make this the Goku/Vegeta show less obvious and failing miserably.

Eli Jackson
Eli Jackson

But Goku isn't a prime example.
Goku got obliterated by Vegeta, Couldn't stand up to Cell, and couldn't even beat Buu in a fair fight.

What you're forgetting is that SSJ3 was such a strain on his ki that just using enough power to MATCH kid Buu left him completely powerless. He ONLY won because VEGETA suggested that he use the spirit bomb and take more than enough energy. The whole point was that, since Goku had saved the earth so many times, it was the earth's time to return the favor.
End of Buu saga goku was still probably weaker than Gohan at the time, and the only reason Gohan lost was because he was absorbed. But Gohan fought a version of Buu that was considerably stronger than the one Goku fought.

Kevin Rivera
Kevin Rivera

Im fucking done with this show until Future Trunks shows up
FTFY

Lincoln Wilson
Lincoln Wilson

True, three arcs and we already see a formula.

Julian Baker
Julian Baker

Most of the big ones, mainly because they're breed to be fearless of injury

Elijah Edwards
Elijah Edwards

Chi-Chi should really just give the guy a room in the house to stay in at this point
he's done more to raise the family than Goku has

Cameron Russell
Cameron Russell

He didn't lock on her at all. His ki control wasn't working well due to the kaioken after effect, and so he was teleporting to random places, rather than the one he had locked.

Ryder Sanchez
Ryder Sanchez

just to make a le epic come back
He didn't make any comeback against Beerus, just outright lost and still hasn't reached his level two arcs later.

Even against Hit it wasn't really clear who was going to win. His only real victory so far is against Freeza.

Caleb Hernandez
Caleb Hernandez

Oh, a few seconds cameo

Hype as more than just a cameo
LOL it was just a cameo

Typical Repressesunese

Jace Morris
Jace Morris

He lost to Frieza
Still gets healed and has to be the one who kills Frieza after the Earth was destroyed.
Lost to Blue Frieza.
Still returns to the tournament to have a fight against Nothing personal character.
And I am guessing this is what is going to happen in the next saga.

Luis Walker
Luis Walker

goku didn't even get to kill the 1st freeza. Trunks had to do it.

Zachary Richardson
Zachary Richardson

How can mai.pilaf and the fox dude breath in space? It doesn't make sense..

Ayden Reyes
Ayden Reyes

At this point we could say Piccolo trained her,
we could

Nigger it's fucking obvious in this episode that Piccolo teached her how to fly.

Evan Jones
Evan Jones

So when are we likely going to see Black Goku's design and how bad will it be?

Isaiah Long
Isaiah Long

his name is Shu
Like Shumai.
Also pretty sure he's a dog.

Also I think they're just on the edge of earth's atmosphere. Not actually in space yet.

Eli Perry
Eli Perry

Goku breathed in space when he was a kid, so did boss rabbit and his goons I believe. Maybe everyone can breathe in space when it's convenient to the plot or funny

Easton Bailey
Easton Bailey

Dragon Ball is a gag series.

Now fuck off burger.

Joseph Young
Joseph Young

at age 4

Noah Smith
Noah Smith

Probably just like when SSG Goku vs Beerus fought.

Hudson Thomas
Hudson Thomas

This is probably the biggest disappointment to come out of GT.

The idea of the Shadow Dragons and giving actual drawbacks to the increasing reliance on the Dragon Balls was brilliant. But then they were executed awfully.

Charles Collins
Charles Collins

So is Bra still erased? Or is Bulma currently pregnant?

Jace Gray
Jace Gray

dragon ball was
literally
never good

Cooper Perry
Cooper Perry

Toriyama said he's a descendant of the Three Eyed Clan, who are able to awaken their third eye through meditation, as Tenshinhan did. A cyclops only has one eye. He never said Ten was an alien. The whole thing is a reference to Hosuke Sharaku.

Jaxson Lopez
Jaxson Lopez

I'm excited for this. Even if the gameplay sucks, I want to see as many fusions as possible.

Yes, that seems underwhelming, but Super Boo would mesh well with Perfect Cell.

William Kelly
William Kelly

so even thought vegeta/saiyans were strong they couldnt make manipulate their ki because of lack of proper training
So videl even thought she had the physical/mental power to fly she lacked a proper training
Somehow baby pan have trained more than 19y videl and saiyans

Lincoln Williams
Lincoln Williams

Gohan was stronger than Raditz at 4 years old. This isn't some new shit.

Tyler Collins
Tyler Collins

You shouldn't

Jaxon Watson
Jaxon Watson

Frieza wanted to become Perfect
with Cell he can fuse with Perfection

Asher Cox
Asher Cox

Probably he will appear in the OP on June 12th.

Landon Anderson
Landon Anderson

If I pulled that off, would he die?

Jacob Murphy
Jacob Murphy

they were executed awfully
More like they were rushed because they were running out of budget.

Benjamin Jenkins
Benjamin Jenkins

No, he'd go Super Saiyan 3.

Colton Sanders
Colton Sanders

As opposed to today, where we have such majestic animation as that of Super Shenron. This shit is dying, why won't Toei just let it?

Christian Rivera
Christian Rivera

it would be extremely painful

Jason Morris
Jason Morris

So when is DBS supposed to get some sort of actual, legitimate villain?

Noah Russell
Noah Russell

never, enjoy all the food jokes and bad animation.

Levi Wood
Levi Wood

The concept of drama was invented by Americans. Dragon Ball has always been about shitty filler episodes.

Henry Ortiz
Henry Ortiz

June 12th. Trunks comes back from the future after getting raped by a nigger.

Julian Myers
Julian Myers

Eh? It was just awful planning. They introduce these characters that are supposed to be the ultimate enemies, and then have Goku telling everyone to stay home while he (alongside Pan) go beat them up in really underwhelming episodic battles? The ending of the arc improves since the last three dragons are shown to be actual threats, but it's still following up the stupid "everyone stay home" thing until the last dragon. Also, personality-wise, aside from 4 stars, they were all really bland. Kid Buu sold the idea of irrational destruction incarnate much better than them, which seemed way too rational to just want to destroy everything for no reason.

Justin Price
Justin Price

Goku Black Saga starts June 12th, with Future Trunks reappearing in the present after barely escaping alive.

Isaiah Gonzalez
Isaiah Gonzalez

I don't get the appeal of Tiencha/Yanhan. Tenshinhan is cool due to this whole dedication to martial arts and such, while Yamcha is kind of a joke. Obviously he'd be stronger than Tenshinhan, but it'd be kind of a pointless fusion. I hope Tenshinhan gets a fusion with Piccolo or Goku too. They've already shown Kuririn fusions with both Kid Goku and Kid Gohan, in addition to Piccolo, so the characters aren't getting just one what if fusion.

Caleb Torres
Caleb Torres

At this point, I don't even think Goku could lower his power level enough to make it possible for him to fuse with a DB-era character like Tien. That guy's pretty much stuck with Yamcha, Krillin, or maybe they'd consider Roshi, just for kicks.

Dylan Thompson
Dylan Thompson

See the difference between those episodes and this one is that those were well written, clever, and all around good and comfy.
This episode was literally "guise remember pilaf he's a relevant character LOL PAN POO XDD".

Adam Sanders
Adam Sanders

She gets married, has a baby and still looks like that in the end, also she becomes the Mayor of Penguin Village

Brayden Fisher
Brayden Fisher

The difference between those episodes and this one is that those were well written, clever, and all around good and comfy.
LOL gohan doing weird poses pretending to be a le hero XD

I see

Carson Cox
Carson Cox

What if Super was all slice of life? Maybe mix in some monster of the week and let some lesser characters have a turn at being the hero.

Elijah Taylor
Elijah Taylor

An arc where we get to see the world after Cell and why Gohan isn't the world's strongest fighter anymore. He also develops a love interest, while introducing Goten and providing a smooth segue into the following tournament arc.
Right. Totally similar to the literal poop joke/pilaf shenanigans this episode culminated in. I can see that now.
Oh wait never mind you're just a fucking invalid who is so in denial he's begging Toyotaro for more of the shit-dick he's sliding down your throat
Kill yourself.

Justin Foster
Justin Foster

GT was better

Blake Diaz
Blake Diaz

Is Piccolo going to have his own egg someday?

Jack Rivera
Jack Rivera

sad but true

Kevin Morales
Kevin Morales

nothing happens: The arc
le new tsundere tomboy XD
oh you miss goku? Here have NotGoku

Adam Perry
Adam Perry

Agreed, the Buu saga was shit, the Cell saga was the last good saga of DB.

Aiden Hill
Aiden Hill

opinion

keek

Aaron Lewis
Aaron Lewis

You'd almost forget that back in the day, Tenshinhan and Yamcha had kind of a rivalry. Especially cuz they were the two guys who weren't midgets.

Robert Lewis
Robert Lewis

No, because he's a weird cradle-robbing shit who'd rather just babysit Goku's kids while he runs off punching and dying for the next fucking millennium or so.

Austin Young
Austin Young

So... Goku's kids have two moms and one dad?

Cooper Russell
Cooper Russell

She is like 1 (unless Toriyama is completely retarded and doesn't know how humans age).

And yes, this show is pure dog shit. It's like they're trying their absolute best to make Z/Super more and more unconnected with old Dragon Ball (when at the same time using some of its characters fucking every episode).

Goku was a fucking caveman fighting monsters and couldn't fly, aurablast like crazy and other shit. Same with Gohan.

David Carter
David Carter

people defend this show

How old are the people on Sup Forums on average?

Nathan Murphy
Nathan Murphy

Buu saga in the anime was shit, mainly because it had so much filler and was extremely hit or miss when trying to convey Toriyama's humour.
It's much better in the manga.
Cell saga was the last good saga
Future Trunks is perhaps the only redeeming thing about that whole saga. The rest ranges from awful to mediocre.

Christian Phillips
Christian Phillips

That lasted fo all of one battle though, since Tenshinhan soon learned that he wasn't Roshi's strongest disciple.

The old anime did often pair them up in filler though, probably due to what you mention there (the two who weren't midgets). The Super anime seems to be sticking Tenshinhan with Chaotzu though, like one would expect.

The Cell Saga was the last time that almost the entire cast had roles and wasn't just in the background, in spite of the power difference of the enemies.

The anime actually improved on this point too, by extending the Cell Jr battle and adding everyone to the final Kamehameha duel.

Hunter Russell
Hunter Russell

The Cell Saga was the last time that almost the entire cast had roles and wasn't just in the background, in spite of the power difference of the enemies.
From the Artificial Human saga right through to Cell saga no one other than Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Future Trunks and Piccolo even matter.
inb4 Ten's Kikoho and Kuririn's antics with 18
Also note that it was Vegeta who made the actual difference in that Kamehameha duel, Cell just blew everyone else away iirc.

The RoF re-telling shows the vast majority of the Z fighters putting up a decent showing against Freeza's underlings. Even to some extent in BoG they fought and played a very minor role.

Isaac Foster
Isaac Foster

Tenshinhan gets the moment where he blasts 2nd form Cell, Kuririn gets the subplot with the remote control to stop 18. Even Karin is used to foreshadow how Goku couldn't beat Cell. Yamcha is reduced to delivery boy after being almost killed by the androids, but that's still more than he gets in the Buu arc.

Cameron Carter
Cameron Carter

Yeah I guess, but you could argue
Tenshinhan assists Gohan against Buu
18 has a whole subplot with the world tournament.
Piccolo is Gotenk's mentor and comedic straight man.
Krillin and the others spend most of the time chilling on the lookout to be fair, but if we're also being fair we get SO many new characters that if the other characters did more than that it'd be a clusterfuck. Buu saga is certainly not lacking in the character department.

Jose Campbell
Jose Campbell

I literally posted
inb4 Ten's Kikoho and Kuririn's antics with 18
Yamucha gives up fighting so he wouldn't have even fought in Buu saga anyway.
Literally nothing has changed since Cell (Also Saiyan and Namek sagas), most of the Z fighters are outclassed by anyone with Saiyan lineage.

Asher Cox
Asher Cox

shes gotten fucked by that dog

Lincoln Hughes
Lincoln Hughes

came here to say this

Jason Stewart
Jason Stewart

Bulma didn't have kids till 3 years after Vegeta showed up while Chichi popped them out the moment she married Goku. Frieza -> Buu was a good 14 years of shit.

Plus Goku and family are ALL hicks and hicks generally have kids early. Bulma is modern woman and had her first way later than normal.

Austin Thomas
Austin Thomas

Still fucking blows my mind that Bulma in hotter now in her 40's than she ever was as a teen

Zachary White
Zachary White

I still like that arc, only for making the attempt to call out the series for constantly relying on them. Watching the final battle always gets me immersed in Goku's struggle, to the point where he dies and I feel just as relieved to finally finish off the last episode. GT is underrated, but it's a shame Super has to get panned for that to happen. That, and teen Bra. Always a joy.

Brandon Price
Brandon Price

She didn't fly around the world you retard

Jackson Brooks
Jackson Brooks

Pan Satan/Son.

Son is Goku's literal second name.

Chase Collins
Chase Collins

Kinda felt out of character for Bulma to freak out like she did. She knows Goku is pure hearted and somewhat dim. I think it also would have been funnier if she was all, "Goku, wtf are you doing here?" and then Vegeta comes in and flips out, "WHAT ARE YOU TWO DOING" but instead they went the typical overreaction route. Not a major gripe, though.

Andrew Price
Andrew Price

Well Bulma always freaks out about that stuff around Goku. Even though she knows well that he's a naive monkey man.

Easton Evans
Easton Evans

I just thought that by now it'd be funnier if she was more nonchalant about it because she knows full well he's not a perv. That way other peoples' reactions to that could create more humorous situations rather than just one.

Andrew Long
Andrew Long

I wonder if Goku and Bulma ever hooked up. . .

Owen Barnes
Owen Barnes

Definitely not. The first girl Goku hooked up with was Chi-chi. Unfortunately Goku and Bulma were never single at the same time.

Hunter Morris
Hunter Morris

Goku and Gohan have a last name, Pan doesn't. In the epilogue the announcer guy calls Goku "Son Goku" but just calls Pan "Pan".

Satan isn't a last name.

Matthew Price
Matthew Price

Trying this hard

Just give up furrfag

Joshua Reed
Joshua Reed

Stay mad Gohanfag

Benjamin Foster
Benjamin Foster

Its going to get worse.

Daniel Smith
Daniel Smith

actual, legitimate villain
what is Toei

Jaxon Nguyen
Jaxon Nguyen

G R E E N E D

Thomas Powell
Thomas Powell

All that QUALITY on RoF saga was one of the best things about it

Christopher Brooks
Christopher Brooks

Teen Bra

You can keep telling yourself that, but she's 8 years old in GT.

Christopher Adams
Christopher Adams

what

Xavier Baker
Xavier Baker

Dragon Ball logic?

Julian Taylor
Julian Taylor

Yeah, she is 8 but terribly displayed in anime.

Dylan Reyes
Dylan Reyes

She's 8 and Pan is 9.

Toei made her look jailbait for some reason. Well, more jailbail than Tori made her look in his sketch of her.

Christopher Jones
Christopher Jones

And that body 18.

Joshua Green
Joshua Green

You can thank Bulma's genes for that.

Brayden Peterson
Brayden Peterson

Nah, she has saggy tits now.

They were single when they met, though.

Nathaniel Carter
Nathaniel Carter

If Vegeta didn't give him a punch the next time they met, I'd be most disappointed.

Nathan Sanchez
Nathan Sanchez

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Josiah Gomez
Josiah Gomez

499 replies

Kayden Kelly
Kayden Kelly

I literally posted inb4 Ten's Kikoho and Kuririn's antics with 18
You say that as if it actually matters. I've never understood why saying inb4 makes people think they're automatically right

Nathan Roberts
Nathan Roberts

awful episode

Connor Reyes
Connor Reyes

tits have shrunk according to that being that knows everything
tits are sagging now

her tits literally deflated
how sad

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