Did Uchiha Madara ruin Naruto?

Jackson Edwards
Jackson Edwards

Did Uchiha Madara ruin Naruto?

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James Nguyen
James Nguyen

he is the best character foreshadowed since years so no it's not an asspull like kagushit.
he should have been the last boss

Adam Mitchell
Adam Mitchell

Naruto was already ruined before

Bentley Rivera
Bentley Rivera

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naruto

lurk more

Grayson Garcia
Grayson Garcia

He was a symptom, but by the time he was introduced Kishi had already written himself into a corner.

Ayden Flores
Ayden Flores

fuck off narutards

Leo Bailey
Leo Bailey

Naruto got interesting once he showed up

Benjamin Bell
Benjamin Bell

Is this the dubs thread?

Colton Rodriguez
Colton Rodriguez

Yes he ruined it even more with his inflated power level.

Benjamin Garcia
Benjamin Garcia

It was already ruined long before, naruto became ninja jesus who only won because of the demon fox bullshit and muh special bloodline.

Everthing went to shit once kishi chose to follow the most shit plotline of all times, the chosen one shit.

Nathaniel Gomez
Nathaniel Gomez

No, the Ninja War arc ruined Naruto.

Benjamin Brown
Benjamin Brown

The moment Naruto was shown to be a Bloodline character, it was shit. The entire thing with him, Sakura and Sasuke was meant to shadow Jiraiya and co. Naruto was the try hard, Sakura was the power house and Sasuke was the genetic genius. Making Naruto a MUH DESTINED GENIUS was dumb and removed the whole pre-timeskip value of him winning because he applied himself and went all out.

His sole reason to being a massive powerhouse should have been the fox. Anything else was retarded.

William Myers
William Myers

I'd tell you to lurk 2 more years before posting, but you should probably just never come back here again nardo boy.

Jace Ortiz
Jace Ortiz

Based Madara

Nathaniel Torres
Nathaniel Torres

Those purple eyes look so gay. The red and black thing was maximum chuuni, but at least it looked good, and not like a doodle made by somebody who was completely out of ideas.

Angel Ross
Angel Ross

the ridiculousness of his power is what made me get back into naruto, watching the whole ninja world get fucked was oddly satisfying

Dylan Jones
Dylan Jones

The whole great ninja war thing was a mistake.

The non-filler parts were ok, but this ending is just shit.

Gabriel Morris
Gabriel Morris

His response to pretty much everything was "get fucked, weaklings"

Had kishi not asspulled kaguya, I would have been satisfied with an Infinite tsukuyomi ending

Jace Lewis
Jace Lewis

I want to marry Female Sasuke.

Thomas Wilson
Thomas Wilson

No, Naruto ruined Naruto

Lucas Ward
Lucas Ward

I liked Madara.
What ruined Naruto was all the spirituality chosen one tailed beast, eye hack craps. I was real bummed when the rinnegan was made the last stage of the sharingan. Also making Sasuke's character overly edgy was a big one.

Cooper Gray
Cooper Gray

No, he was only only thing saving it from being extra shit. Even if he was a total villain sue, at least he was funny to read having the time of his life shitting all over everyone.

Nolan Hernandez
Nolan Hernandez

sauce?

Gabriel Reyes
Gabriel Reyes

I practically laughed when Madara was already owning the 5 Kage real bad and then makes a bunch of wood clones and says "should I use susano's on all of them"

Dylan Hill
Dylan Hill

Madara was the one who escalated the powerlevels and thus made an already shitty series shittier.

Liam Jones
Liam Jones

BUT CAN YOU STOP THE SECOND METEOR

Parker Sullivan
Parker Sullivan

No, he SAVED Naruto.

Camden Clark
Camden Clark

He was the best part f the ninja war, so no.

Juan Roberts
Juan Roberts

https://youtu.be/Vd_aTuodKGg

Brayden Robinson
Brayden Robinson

Made it worse.

Aiden Thomas
Aiden Thomas

I fail to see how we could go any worse than CAVE IN OF DARKNESS

Henry Foster
Henry Foster

No, Shippuden did

Justin Evans
Justin Evans

Can bros hold hands without it being lewd?

Liam Gomez
Liam Gomez

His method of breaking out of the zombie thing was a shitty asspull. So was Itachi's by the way.

Adam Hall
Adam Hall

He was the only thing that kept people reading the final arc.

Parker Martin
Parker Martin

heard you were talking shit

James Young
James Young

I'm not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I'm not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I'm not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano'o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu. I’m also not talking about Kono Yo no Kyuseishu Futarime no Rikudo Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan (which is capable of Enton Amaterasu, Izanagi, Izanami and the Tsyukuyomi Genjutsu), his two original Rinnegan (which grant him Chikushodo, Shurado, Tendo, Ningendo, Jigokudo, Gakido, Gedo, Bansho Ten’in, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Tengai Shinsei and Banbutsu Sozo) and a third Tomoe Rinnegan on his forehead, capable of using Katon, Futon, Raiton, Doton, Suiton, Mokuton, Ranton, Inton, Yoton and even Onmyoton Jutsu, equipped with his Gunbai(capable of using Uchihagaeshi) and a Shakujo because he is a master in kenjutsu and taijutsu, a perfect Susano’o (that can use Yasaka no Magatama ), control of both the Juubi and the Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA and face implanted on his chest, his four Rinbo Hengoku Clones guarding him and nine Gudodama floating behind him AFTER he absorbed Senjutsu from the First Hokage, entered Rikudo Senjutsu Mode, cast Mugen Tsukuyomi on everybody and used Shin: Jukai Kotan so he can use their Chakra while they are under Genjutsu.

Luke Morales
Luke Morales

I'm definitely NOT Talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after Alucard, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu and having eaten Popeye's spinach. I'm talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Legendary Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with his Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after having absorbed Alucard as well as a God Hand, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit, with Kryptonian DNA implanted in him and having eaten Popeye's spinach while possessing quantum powers like Dr. Manhattan and having mastered Hokuto Shinken.

John Sanders
John Sanders

Naruto was ruined after the Sasuke Retrieval Arc. Almost everyone's character arc stagnated to a greater or lesser degree, almost no new motivations were brought up, and we got the horrendous shit like Sakura's 'confession' to Naruto.

Lincoln Robinson
Lincoln Robinson

Itachi never planned for his to happen, though, and Kabuto didn't know Itachi set the Kotoamatsukami inside Naruto. It was dumb luck.

Zachary Johnson
Zachary Johnson

Reminder that Itachi only told Sasuke he loved him under the influence of a genjutsu that made him unable to act against Konoha, meaning that his whole explanation of the massacre may have been a total fabrication to defuse Sasuke.

Robert Young
Robert Young

Itachi didn't want to act against Konoha anyway. "PROTECT KONOHA" pretty much just broke Edo Tensei's control - protecting Konoha was something Itachi was planning to do anyway.

Not to mention he cocked it up hardcore if he WAS trying to actively protect Konoha, since after the massive spiel about how Konoha means everything to him and he gave his life and clan to protect it, Sasuke was like "Yeah nah, gonna destroy it anyway," and Itachi sort of shrugged and went "Alright. Back to Ninja Heaven for me."

If he was really under Kotoamatsukami, hearing Sasuke say he was going to destroy Konoha would've forced Itachi to take action against him.

Asher Ramirez
Asher Ramirez

He couldn't do anything by that point, his soul was exiting the body and he could hardly walk, having used his last action to spin the genjutsu. Now, I'm not saying it was all a lie, but it was probably all a lie. I mean, as if his parents would tell him how great he was while he was beheading them.

Zachary Barnes
Zachary Barnes

Wrong Uchiha, edgelord sasuke did.

Jordan Collins
Jordan Collins

All of that can be handwaved away by Itachi being Kishimoto's chosen Golden Boy who can do no wrong, unfortunately.

Dominic Hill
Dominic Hill

The series was ruined by Uchiha wankery. Madara was Uchiha wankery taken to the extreme that it stopped being annoying and was entertaining again.

Naruto being the chosen one was also a load of shit.

Luke Brown
Luke Brown

Make Uchiha Great Again

Jaxson Morgan
Jaxson Morgan

That is impossible. The Uchiha were a mistake, they are nothing but trash.

Joseph Baker
Joseph Baker

Danzo, please Danz-go

Dominic Flores
Dominic Flores

I honestly don't think a lot of the aspects of Naruto are that bad in terms of typical shounen fare. I honestly enjoyed the setting, the powers, and at their base forms (I guess), the Rinnegan, Sharingan, and Byakugan. And everything else.

I just wish they didn't make them all so fucking convoluted. It's like that pasta going on about all the fucking powers of some characters, like, each eye would have 40 forms and other weird special shit that was hard to fucking keep track of, and the constant escalation of "the biggest bad guy... No wait, THE biggest bad guy!" that kept coming out really degraded the story for me.

I honestly hate that shit because it really degrades some characters, and you see it a LOT. What's the point of having some super strong, mentor character, talking about how strong he is, die to the bad guy of the current arc? When you know that, 3 or 4 arcs down the line, we'll have been introduced 4 more bad guys that make the guy the sensei character died to look like a fucking ant. It boggles my mind. Like they'll teach Naruto some power and it fucking assblasts some dudes, but then a few chapters later, there's a new guy who eats that shit to the face and then laughs.

I would rather Naruto or whoever else beat the bad guys out of sheer luck than the constant power-level escalating, deus-ex machina bullshit. Having the bad guy trip on a stair and break his neck would've been a more satisfying end than half the shit in this series.

Which is a real shame because I honestly still find a lot of shit in Naruto to be pretty fucking cool, it was all just used in really bad, occasionally embarrassing ways. I hate using the word "edgy" but there were ways to have villains and powers be "cool" or "evil" like that but not in that stereotypical way.

Christopher Brown
Christopher Brown

Don't tell me what to Danz-do

Chase Foster
Chase Foster

I can't believe you fucking one-upped me.

Caleb Stewart
Caleb Stewart

You're a hundred years too early to beat me, kid.

Angel Rogers
Angel Rogers

Go choke on a dick, you Danz-ho

Andrew Thomas
Andrew Thomas

At the point real Madara was introduced, manga was so shitty and Naruto was so annoying, seeing the big bad butchering all those ninja wizards while shit-talking them was simply enjoyable.

Robert Perry
Robert Perry

Danz-no

Jaxson Morgan
Jaxson Morgan

You can't ruin something which is already trash.

Alexander Evans
Alexander Evans

Which Uchiha Madara are we talking about?

Logan Price
Logan Price

You're seriously ripping on my Danz-flo.

How long until Killer Bee writes a rap about every enemy the series ever had, paying out on all of them?

Chase Martinez
Chase Martinez

That Madara meme may have been more true than I thought.

Joshua Cox
Joshua Cox

You're seriously ripping on my Danz-flo.
Yeah, because you Danz-blow

William Parker
William Parker

Danz-yo, Danz-bro, that was Danz-low

Jaxson Baker
Jaxson Baker

Madara did nothing wrong

David Nelson
David Nelson

Listening to his brother was pretty fucking stupid of him.

Joshua Collins
Joshua Collins

Pain should have been the semi-final boss with sasuke as the last boss. Without revive and zombie no jutsu it might have actually been decent.

Aiden Torres
Aiden Torres

ill miss the cuck gaiden
the fun times we had...

Robert Moore
Robert Moore

Wait, what did Kubo do that was anywhere near as troll-worthy as that? I haven't kept up with Bleach since Aizen got bibbity-bopped

Ayden Stewart
Ayden Stewart

We still bring it up in /nsunsg/ from time to time. Some people still get mad about it.

Kevin Walker
Kevin Walker

mfw my post is in that screenshot
I feel like I've finally done something with my life.

Henry Walker
Henry Walker

So is Naruto still near-universally hated on here?

Benjamin Ross
Benjamin Ross

You can't ruin what was already bad.

Gavin Richardson
Gavin Richardson

D-DO I FIT IN GUIZE???

Eli Edwards
Eli Edwards

Uchiha eyehax in general certainly contributed greatly in ruining Naruto as a series.

Jonathan Campbell
Jonathan Campbell

No you dont, fuck off back to /b/

Robert Gutierrez
Robert Gutierrez

Why is his face cracked?

Jonathan Garcia
Jonathan Garcia

wew lad checked

Evan Wood
Evan Wood

Edo Tensei. It's basically Zombie no Jutsu, and revived people come back with cracks all through their skin and their eyes are different.

Daniel Campbell
Daniel Campbell

w-WHO AM I QUOTING

w e w
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Liam Murphy
Liam Murphy

Threadly reminder for all new friends

Robert Scott
Robert Scott

Uzumaki Naruto vs Eren Jaegar
Oh boy

Noah Nelson
Noah Nelson

who the fuck is moot

James Cook
James Cook

No Naruto ruin Naruto.

Gabriel Parker
Gabriel Parker

That's not even a contest though. Naruto would blow him out of the water.
Get out.

Aaron Fisher
Aaron Fisher

Naruto would blow him out of the water
Exactly my point. Even Titan Eren would pretty much do four-fifths of FA, since Naruto can summon his fucking three-headed demon fox battle avatar that would be something like twice again as tall as Titan Eren.

Juan Peterson
Juan Peterson

heh

Joshua White
Joshua White

that scene mang
he wasn't even trying

Julian Roberts
Julian Roberts

No, Naruto was already ruined due to the MC's obsessive homolust, the Elmo villains whining about their sad backstories and its universe attitude of constantly sucking Naruto's dick as if there had never been anyone as great as him in the world's history, and and it was in danger of hitting its lowest point during the war arc after over 50 chapters of irrelevant characters fighting plants and zombies that had nothing to do with the plot.

Madara made the manga fun again by living up to his hype, flaunting his dick to the jobber alliance and proving himself to be the only obstacle that Naruto couldn't simply talk into becoming one of his fangirls.

Michael Diaz
Michael Diaz

*Emo villains

Elijah Ward
Elijah Ward

Doesn't know who moot is
user that's either the most bait obvious post i've ever seen or you just joined 4chin yesterday.

Jaxon Hill
Jaxon Hill

crushes over a hundred shinobi in the space of about, ooh, thirty seconds
drops not one but two fucking meteors on top of Fourth Division
drops the five Kage like a bag of fucking bricks, talking shit about how all of them combined don't even hold a candle to his husbando's power
"How are the Kage...? ...Not ok." Most menacing line in the fucking series.
Obito betrays him, doesn't even break a fucking sweat, proceeds with plan anyway
Becomes the Ten Tails Jinchuuriki
From out of fucking NOWHERE gains Limbo: Border Jail and Storm Release, because why not at this point
Tanks the Night Guy, the single most destructive hand to hand combat ability in the series, shrugs it off, is still a honourable enough opponent to acknowledge Guy's power
Everything is according to plan, Naruto and Sasuke are doing every single thing they can to stop Madara who's basically slapping them around like red-headed stepsons
gets one-hit-KO'd by fucking BLACK ZETSU
somehow immediately forgets that his body regenerates within milliseconds of getting damaged
STILL gets to go back to Ninja Heaven with his husbando

Madara was fucking great.

Caleb Perry
Caleb Perry

It's a common joke to pretend to be ignorant about moot, I think you should follow your own implied advice and lurk more

Justin Harris
Justin Harris

lurk more fdp

Oliver Collins
Oliver Collins

Ignorant about moot on Sup Forums, even pretend
Good one anons.

Gavin Turner
Gavin Turner

The golden age of narutu OC.

Liam Jackson
Liam Jackson

Well memed my friend.

Xavier Mitchell
Xavier Mitchell

Yep
That's The One

William Wood
William Wood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0verLM5ejNE

Kayden Murphy
Kayden Murphy

If I learned something from watching multiple wuxia movies is that martial artists are the craziest people

Jacob Richardson
Jacob Richardson

Daily reminder that Madara was right

Wyatt Morris
Wyatt Morris

Like most shonen Naruto started out great and had lots of potential! unfortunately it turned to shit in the second panel

Adam Ortiz
Adam Ortiz

I loved thay Gai was his only 1vs1 decent contender

Joshua Murphy
Joshua Murphy

I don't get it, wasn't Itachi basically the delivery boy? The real mastermind behind the Uchiha's genocide was Danzo. He should be the one receiving the honors, not Itachi

Jaxson Ramirez
Jaxson Ramirez

Lurk more

Luis Roberts
Luis Roberts

going gay for your lil bro instead of the rule 63 version of him
The manliest Uchiha in the anime was Fugaku
prove me wrong

Henry Sanchez
Henry Sanchez

manly

every single character is a faggot compared to Gai

Jaxson Cox
Jaxson Cox

No. Kaguya did. The fight with her was underwhelming, and Black Zetsu was more of a presence than Kaguya.

At least Best girl won and I am still feasting on the tears.

Gabriel Gray
Gabriel Gray

Hinata being ruined was the last straw for this series for me.

As funny as the cuck shit was, the whole debacle made Sakura a far more interesting character to me than Hinata.

Dominic Peterson
Dominic Peterson

what went wrong.png
Kishi changing too much Editors during Part 2, and Editor-kun rushing the Kishi causing him to focus on main characters too much
(See cancelled Edo-Kakuzu Arc)

Jacob Morales
Jacob Morales

be that as it may, hinata became a bore regardless. shame.

Jack Cruz
Jack Cruz

He saved it.

Watching him shit on fucking everybody for several hundred chapters was hilarious.

Andrew Foster
Andrew Foster

Is there anyone who can beat Kawaki?

Cameron Green
Cameron Green

(See cancelled Edo-Kakuzu Arc)
Wait, what?

Cooper Moore
Cooper Moore

I love Naruto despite all its flaws.

Robert Foster
Robert Foster

Me too.

Samuel Myers
Samuel Myers

Edo Kakuzu was going to be thing but Kishi's editor make him bail out the idea due to not enough number of chapters left

Robert Hernandez
Robert Hernandez

Any serious poster in this thread should jump off a 30 story building

Caleb Wood
Caleb Wood

i dunno
that guy from shaman king?

Anthony Watson
Anthony Watson

Madara was awesome. As others have noted, having Naruto be a predestined genetic genius reincarnation whatever betrayed the whole theme of pure spirit and working hard.

Jayden Peterson
Jayden Peterson

Madara is cool but Obito is the coolest guy

Michael Stewart
Michael Stewart

Fucking this. Fucking faggy gary stu, I can't stand him anymore.

Cooper Watson
Cooper Watson

Worst Hokage ever
gary stu

Adam Ortiz
Adam Ortiz

That would be Tsunade.

Tyler Brooks
Tyler Brooks

In a sense: Yes and no.
Him being too OP is why we got Kaguya. Kishi wrote himself into a corner by creating an antagonist that couldn't be defeated by the protagonists. He was like Kobe Bryant in a hotel room in Colorado. Unstoppable.

On the other hand, Naruto was already ruined and he made it interesting. People most definitely read it solely for him. It's not that he was a 10/10 character, but we couldn't possibly hate this guy.
Other characters, especially (in a general sense) are arrogant but can't back it up. This guy knew he can and will win in the end. Dominantly so. He could allow himself to troll around and be a dick cause nobody can touch him. That's what made him so glorious. He curbstomped hard and made it entertaining to watch him pound the good guys.
It was impossible to beat him and Madara himself knew it.

And as this user said. After so many times that Naruto talked someone into his followers, it was awesome he was immune to it.

Landon Howard
Landon Howard

Nah, Tsunade was a woman, she never wanted the job and didn't have a prophecy back up. Naruto has godlike powers, all the Uchihas exterminated except for his wife and daughter, all his enemies dead or tnj and he still screwed up

Christopher Nelson
Christopher Nelson

I mean how can you hate this guy?

Parker Moore
Parker Moore

Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I’m not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I’m not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I’m not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano’o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu.

Cooper Green
Cooper Green

Yes

Gavin Ortiz
Gavin Ortiz

Kakashi was the best Hokage.

Samuel Nguyen
Samuel Nguyen

Implying Naruto wasn't ruined from first chapter.

Robert Diaz
Robert Diaz

you couldn't protected her smile
nor Kaguya's

Jordan Cox
Jordan Cox

Why Kaguya has the Byakugan?

Are the Hyuga ayyliens too?

Evan Stewart
Evan Stewart

Yes.

Anthony Cox
Anthony Cox

Because The Last

Owen Allen
Owen Allen

?

Julian Miller
Julian Miller

Does she infect Madara with her Down's syndrome?

Jace Anderson
Jace Anderson

She'll become Burrito's new light.

Adrian Carter
Adrian Carter

I know T_T

Benjamin Clark
Benjamin Clark

NON CANON

Luis Walker
Luis Walker

DENIAL

Luke Gonzalez
Luke Gonzalez

Hinata needed to be a special snowflake and super relevant on the Naruto universe. Same reason why Hagoromo had a brother. Kishi is that autistic

Kevin Anderson
Kevin Anderson

bump.

Blake Gonzalez
Blake Gonzalez

KISAME IS BEST BOY

Elijah Watson
Elijah Watson

He's actually one of the few things that made that arc half way enjoyable. But yes, they brutally ruined him with all those powerups they gave him and his death with anti-climatic as fuck

Dylan Jenkins
Dylan Jenkins

what the fuck?

Aiden Perez
Aiden Perez

Naruto has no bloodline other than the Uzumaki life force which hardly helps him at all. He is not destined for anything.
Being a reincarnation of a guy who had to fight for everything his whole life doesn't grant you any magic powers whatsoever.

Colton Morales
Colton Morales

I wish he had gotten a little more character development, but you could say the same about every Akatsuki member barring Itachi.

Chase Cruz
Chase Cruz

He is literally the child of prophecy, 99% of his power comes from the furry friend stuck up his ass and his father is the most talented ninja to come out of Konoha since its founders.

Jaxson Ortiz
Jaxson Ortiz

Naruto has no bloodline other than the Uzumaki life force which hardly helps him at all. He is not destined for anything
Except, you know, the giant fucking demon fox shoved up his ass which gives him unlimited chakra.

Carson Fisher
Carson Fisher

Fugaku

So "manly", he just sat there and let his own son gut him, despite having been retroactively revealed to have a Mangekyo

Jaxson Wright
Jaxson Wright

No, Kishimoto did with his boner for Uchiha.

Parker Clark
Parker Clark

He is literally the child of prophecy,
Gives him nothing
99% of his power comes from the furry friend stuck up his ass
As wanted (this goes to you too )
It's not a bloodline but a circumstance.
and his father is the most talented ninja to come out of Konoha since its founders.
His skill was not an inherited trait

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross

Why does kishi write Naruto out to be this mary dude that fucking wins at everything because prophecy chosen one bullshit but he still gets cucked by his emo sidekick at the end of the story?

It just seems inexplicable to me.

John Martinez
John Martinez

Uzumakis are honorary senjews at this point

Levi Wood
Levi Wood

he naturally has a giant pool of powerful chakra that comes from his awful mary sue of a mother, heir of a legendary clan, which allows him to bear the strain of kyuubi chakra but also learn sage mode

Parker Wright
Parker Wright

Sasuke is the only reason why the manga run for so long and the female readership is more important than ever.

Joshua Lopez
Joshua Lopez

no one liked sakura except sasuke fangirls using her as a self insert, that's why

Andrew Martinez
Andrew Martinez

That does nothing.
he naturally has a giant pool of powerful chakra that comes from his awful mary sue of a mother,
Doesn't do much for him.
heir of a legendary clan,
Does nothing for him as they left no legacy for him to reclaim. (Rasengan aside)
which allows him to bear the strain of kyuubi chakra
In the sense that he has a marginally higher lifespan than otherwise due to possessing a higher hayflick limit. It does nothing else.
but also learn sage mode
That was all his own merits. You need willpower to master nature chakra.

Connor Cox
Connor Cox

I think Madara should have went up in smoke with the other Edo Tensei zombies when Itachi broke the spell. Everyone beats Obito, Naruto and Sasuke have their fight, the end. Kaguya could have been saved for another arc or a movie instead.

Jose Taylor
Jose Taylor

So I just read Naruto up until a bit after the (first?) timeskip, and I thought that the first arc was shit, and that it was consistently entertaining from the beginning of the chuunin test up until when Sasuke ran away. The part where they actually went looking for Sasuke as a group was god awful, but I liked the climax of the arc and Sasuke's flashback.

I think I'm gonna drop it now because everything that's happened since the timeskip is retarded, and it's been almost non-stop action. The point is, Naruto was ruined long before whoever the fuck that is was introduced.

Zachary Hall
Zachary Hall

l just told you what it did, it's literally why he can be the kyuubi jinchuuriki, because kyuubi's chakra used to be so toxic normal people couldn't bear it, that's what yamato says in the penis arc

and the point is even with willpower he couldn't have learned sage mode without his innately large chakra pool

are you retarded? oh you're a naruto fan nevermind

Daniel Morales
Daniel Morales

I hope you aren't saying the Zabuza arc was shit.

Nathaniel Brown
Nathaniel Brown

Yes, I am. It was awful.

Xavier Wood
Xavier Wood

That does nothing.
Zetsu refers to an Uzumaki as the same shit as a Senju (which is the only clan that was considered to be as overpowered as the Uchiha)

Nolan Hall
Nolan Hall

Doesn't do much for him.
Except give him the upper hand on everyone by letting him spam techniques that would kill them from exhaustion.
no legacy
It's not about the legacy, it's about the genetic prestige.
marginally higher
marginally
You need willpower to master nature chakra.
At age sixteen? You need the genetics and ungodly talent.

Thomas Martinez
Thomas Martinez

How come?

Camden Green
Camden Green

Naruto ruined Naruto

Oliver Evans
Oliver Evans

The General is respected or feared, but The Soldier is glorified.

Leo Collins
Leo Collins

Danz-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

Owen Reyes
Owen Reyes

I would sat the Uchihas in general.
I have never seen a family hijack a series as hard as they did.
It also doesn't help that every single one of them are the absolute worst.

Matthew Harris
Matthew Harris

no, Naruto ruined Naruto.

Liam Mitchell
Liam Mitchell

but a circumstance
His mother was a Jinchuuriki, as was the First Hokage's wife. It's basically a family thing now.

William Evans
William Evans

He appears to have give them to him when they were still children, in a way they wouldn't notice...
FUCKING HOW?

Wyatt Baker
Wyatt Baker

Naruto was ruined the moment Naruto had to rely on the fucking demon fox to do anything, it completely destroyed the original message.

son of le super special yellow flash
who was the fourth hokage
mother from some bullshit bloodline that apparently has loads of "life energy"
has a fucking demon fox inside him that helps him out for its own benefit
its part of an almost mythological pantheon of tailed beasts
its also the strongest one by far

lol but really it's just hard work guys :^)

William Flores
William Flores

Maybe it's a better life lesson since hard work alone can only do so much.
Some people just have a better affinity for certain things.

Mason Miller
Mason Miller

all those powerups
He was nerfed if anything. As a zombie he had infinite chakra and health to go with his dual eyehax. He actually became vulnerable by returning to life and then Kishi forgot about half of the eyehax he had access to. People really like to talk about how awesome it was to watch Guy fight him, but it shouldn't have even been possible with the Deva Path and Susanno at his disposal.

Liam Howard
Liam Howard

This is just the Saitama of naruto.

Dominic Adams
Dominic Adams

man now that you mention it l'd have a hard time deciding who's the worst uchiha

l'd say maybe itachi because he's the most blatantly pandering and his pseudo antihero characterization was one of the biggest clusterfucks l've ever seen

Connor Walker
Connor Walker

It also doesn't help that every single one of them are the absolute worst.
Shit taste, desu

Cooper Gomez
Cooper Gomez

Doesn't do much for him.
What? It's literally the only reason he can use Shadow Clones better than anyone else.

Does nothing for him as they left no legacy for him to reclaim.
He claimed the fox that only ever went to Uzumaki's

You need willpower to master nature chakra.
Or the ability to skip decades of training by spamming clones who can learn for you.

Austin Garcia
Austin Garcia

Literally everything bad that happend in their world can be traced back to them.
Hell even Kaguya is technically an Uchiha.

Noah Rivera
Noah Rivera

Not that user, but I'll take a shot at it.

The "Demon Brothers" were fucking pointless
Kakashi gets punked so the kids can show off, despite being able to make lightning from his hands which would have let him escape
Their plan to fight big Z works despite being easily disrupted by something as simple as him using another water clone
They really only make it out because Zabuza is terrible at passing his ideals down and Haku refuses to kill them despite three different opportunites.
Talk no Jutsu makes its first appearance
They don't even have to do the dirty work of killing the real asshole in the arc, Gato, because of this
Neither the kids, nor Kakashi, learn they need to take this whole "team" thing more seriously.

Brody Campbell
Brody Campbell

Naturally since Madara was the main driving force of everything that happened in the Nardo plot.

But for some reason some out of nowhere milf gets to be the final boss

Austin Nguyen
Austin Nguyen

Sup Forums ruined Naruto.

Gabriel Murphy
Gabriel Murphy

l like how kishimoto probably tried to portray tobirama as a prejudiced fascist and didn't realize every single named uchiha in tne story actually confirmed what tobirama thought of them

so basically this is a pro genocide narrative, isn't that grand

Jaxon Morris
Jaxon Morris

Is there even a single picture of post-The last hanabi?

Isaac Torres
Isaac Torres

Well maybe if you stopped being one of those fuckbois who think "hard work" was the main message of Naruto ever, you wouldn't have this problem. It was the C-Plot of a single arc behind; Chuunin Exams and Orochimaru. Even then it was Lee's thing and not Naruto's, Naruto's thing has always been "bonds between people."

Lucas Howard
Lucas Howard

There was nothing wrong with "talk no jutsu" in that context.

Brody Green
Brody Green

Uchiha Madara made Naruto great again
FTFY

Chase Jenkins
Chase Jenkins

Don't forget the OG Uchiha being a salty little bitch and starting the conflict between ninjas general because his daddy choose his non-edgy little brother to be the new ninja prophet instead of him in all his power hungry edgy glory.

Austin Roberts
Austin Roberts

It was god awful, there was no indication before that point that Zabuza gave a single shit about Haku in a fashion other than as a tool.

Caleb Kelly
Caleb Kelly

Right? I love the fact that they have to retcon shit in the ane to make him and Danzo look less right about the Uchiha.

Ayden Young
Ayden Young

being denied your birth right because your brother has more friends than you

He was right to chimp out, and his brother was a faggot to keep stalking him through reincarnation.

Nathaniel Williams
Nathaniel Williams

Naruto was so much better when they were more strict with the power sets of each character.

Owen Walker
Owen Walker

Except for Kagami Uchiha, the guy on Tobirama's squad. That combined with the Uchiha Police Force being well respected for a half century just goes to show that the Uchiha can be domesticated with enough stern oversight and be turned into productive citizens.

So long as you never give them a sliver of a reason the start being paranoid psychopaths again.

Hunter Walker
Hunter Walker

That's the point.

Dominic Kelly
Dominic Kelly

SARADACHANNNNNN

Lucas White
Lucas White

That grip

Luke White
Luke White

this he hands down had the best power in all of naruto and one of the best powers in all of shounen jump.

Joshua Martin
Joshua Martin

Izumi ;_;

Nathaniel Brown
Nathaniel Brown

Well to be fair, it does kinda makes sense.
It hasn't hard to believe that someone begins to care for someone he has basically raised.
I wouldn't say it wouldn't make sense if he didn't care, because merciless assasin but I wouldn't be suprised if he did develop a soft spot forban orphsn he raised.

Luis Rodriguez
Luis Rodriguez

shes a uchiha slut it's ok user. She wasn't good enough for itachi

Christopher Hughes
Christopher Hughes

Be Indra
Your hobby is angsting by yourself and being strong
Know your dad was big on that love and peace shit
Get butthurt when he chooses your popular Chad brother to lead his cult
FUCKING SENJU LEAVE REEEEEEE
Indra was a beta cuck all along.

Kevin Perry
Kevin Perry

I don't blame Hagoromo.
It was younger brother who is a well adjusted person or the power hungry edgy faggot who would probably be a tyrant

Alexander Ross
Alexander Ross

Not to mention, he was the leader of a religious sect. Of course you are going to choose the more outgoing one.

John Flores
John Flores

I love how Tobirama wasn't the slightest bit suprised when he heard that the Uchihas got extinct because they were all killed by their fellow Uchiha.
It is almost as if he saw it coming.

Tyler Torres
Tyler Torres

You mean Beta cuck right?

Jackson Phillips
Jackson Phillips

Considering they killed their brothers for each other's eyes instead of just swapping them, it's not a surprise at all.

David Thompson
David Thompson

Tobirama is just a shitter who is jealous he gets out classed in everything but water jutsu

Logan Baker
Logan Baker

And he still begged Madara to spare Sasuke's life

Leo Williams
Leo Williams

I forgot, why did Obito help to kill all the Uchiha?

Dominic Fisher
Dominic Fisher

out classed in everything
invented teleportation
invented near perfect resurrection
invented reverse exp-clones
Cribbing off his shit was the only reason anyone got anything done in this shitshow.

Liam Wood
Liam Wood

tfw these reaction images aren't even used anymore

Josiah Bailey
Josiah Bailey

Because he isn't a petty little fuck, Sasuke was an important asset in the war letting your ego get in the way from saving the world is stupidest thing a person could do.

Logan Martin
Logan Martin

Collect all those Sharingans, eliminate people who could read that tablet, keep up his madara act.

Juan Flores
Juan Flores

Invented teleportion
Then the fourth hokage took it and perfected it
Made edo tensai
Then oro and kabuto went and perfected
went and made shadow clones
then naruto perfected it.

Cameron Brown
Cameron Brown

She wasn't good enough for itachi
To be fair, no girl is.

Evan Cruz
Evan Cruz

That's what I just said. Anyone who was anything only got there by cribbing off Tobirama who had to invent all of that while they just improved on one of them.

Aaron Bennett
Aaron Bennett

yeah, i'm gonna need to know if there's a folder up for all those reaction images

Charles Carter
Charles Carter

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+stop+being+a+newfag+on+the+4chans

Daniel Baker
Daniel Baker

no

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