Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1543

Parker Phillips
Parker Phillips

Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true

Previous Thread:
/a/thread/141588841#p141588841

All urls found in this thread:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true
https://youtu.be/TLc30VSPdgY?t=609
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/blog/2005/11/05/learning-vocab-tips/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fEplq1S5f9wyVPzgzJw3v2l54w1KuvDf9yvNPU3AbG4/pubhtml?widget=true&headers=false&chrome=false#gid=133100607
http://livingjapanese.com/pages/yotsubato_reading_pack1.html
http://livingjapanese.com/pages/yotsubato_reading_pack1.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zfBMDNkJuI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4PKCcGyyx0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-HKKXxUMH4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5KeRbLmnmc
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%B2%E6%98%A0%E7%94%BB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8ci2qi-Iys
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/あなたの幸せが私の幸せ
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/k10010523211000/k10010523211000.html
http://www.aozora.gr.jp/cards/000148/files/773_14560.html
https://discord.gg/010y85EcrJf0N8x9b
https://kotobank.jp/word/通用-570668
https://www.youtube.com/user/yottinokoya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5IPArDxO40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsKX49JAuDQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15tUzlriGDI
Levi Cooper
Levi Cooper

おそっ

Jackson Nguyen
Jackson Nguyen

「最悪な少女」とは西洋ではアニメとか漫画のシリーズの一番嫌な女の子であるのを定義するために。

例えばラブライブのマキさん。

Jeremiah Wright
Jeremiah Wright

Formally proposing to rename DJT to
Daisuki Japanese Thread

Kevin Powell
Kevin Powell

It's Dasoku Japanese Thread or nothing

Ian Morales
Ian Morales

finally it's thread starter epic meme posting time, the favorite moments of my life

Ian Young
Ian Young

What is he looking at?

Why does he want to touch it?

Gavin Thompson
Gavin Thompson

Friendly Reminder

How to tell if something is a shitpost:
calls the community made guide/whatever method a piece of shit with no reasoning given why
insults someone giving helpful advice with no reasoning given why
attempts to create arguments over virtually nothing (eg opinions without facts)
"spam questions" that are easily answered via a 1 second glance at the guide
uses obtuse Japanese fragments interspersed with English to attempt bypass people trying to filter the shitposts
any mention of anime being shit, or "real Japanese"
spells the word as romaji

Joseph Lee
Joseph Lee

Please post this at the start of every thread from now on

Daniel Richardson
Daniel Richardson

Just wanted to thank the user that suggested Aozora Bunko some threads ago. Thanks man, this is exactly what I was looking for.

Benjamin Richardson
Benjamin Richardson

Sup Forums, accept my post reeeee

Zachary Jackson
Zachary Jackson

Idk if this post is really that necessary now, most of the shitposting seems to have stopped

木材を触る

Blake Miller
Blake Miller

So was that already the end of the i + 1 story or do we get another part

Don't just leave me hanging user

Juan Reyes
Juan Reyes

A good way to challenge yourself is going after VNs that still haven't or have never been translated

Cooper Wood
Cooper Wood

The guy might return at any time. You can't expect someone who got banned for ban evasion to respect his ban.

Sebastian White
Sebastian White

I like this thread so far

Brayden Wilson
Brayden Wilson

if you want more find the original video, shouldn't be hard

Parker Roberts
Parker Roberts

nice meme game

Brody Cox
Brody Cox

am I doing this right

Gavin Bennett
Gavin Bennett

what's a decent amount of new cards to introduce daily if I want to finish core 10k within my lifetime?

who am I fucking kidding I can't learn Japanese I wonder why I haven't killed myself yet

Jason Harris
Jason Harris

1 per day is enough to finish it within your lifetime

Chase Campbell
Chase Campbell

comedy

gold

Hunter Ross
Hunter Ross

So I finished both yotsubato decks months ago, about 1400 cards

but I still get 20 to 50 reviews per day even though I'm usually 90%+ correct

am I doing something wrong?

Wyatt Ross
Wyatt Ross

Where do you begin your trip?

Jacob Williams
Jacob Williams

Depends entirely on you, just experiment

Kevin Hughes
Kevin Hughes

I didn't understand the original image and this doesn't help

David Adams
David Adams

I've been doing 20 per day for like 2-3 months and I'm sitting at 560. I already want to rip my hair's out. It will take me about 5 years to get through 10000 cards and I know for a fucking I still won't be able to read jack shit even after I finish it.

Colton Clark
Colton Clark

Pick up some manga series

After you're done with the first 2 volumes you'll know 80% of the vocab for all future volumes

Works for LNs as well, point is that you should focus on a single author and a single series to learn that vocab-bubble

Gabriel Garcia
Gabriel Garcia

Black hole reminds him of his wife's heart

Aaron James
Aaron James

this is the only thread i care about.

Noah Long
Noah Long

bottom right

going up the chute of failure is forbidden by natural law

Ryan Murphy
Ryan Murphy

I tried reading yotsuba& and the fact that after almost two years I can't even read kiddie stuff literally aimed at elementary school children just made me want to stop altogether.

I guess it's time to waste more time at a language academy because I clearly can't do this own my own.

Aiden Gutierrez
Aiden Gutierrez

Where does WankiKani fall on this diagram?

Lucas Scott
Lucas Scott

do core up to 2k
start a mining deck
its so simple

Ethan Powell
Ethan Powell

Straight line pointing down

Luis Ramirez
Luis Ramirez

slightly faster alternative to "RTK (done wrong)"

Jayden Ortiz
Jayden Ortiz

20 per day
2-3 months
560
I don't understand

Thomas Torres
Thomas Torres

Stop being retarded and get the yotsubato anki deck

Jose Miller
Jose Miller

4 days a week, user. You don't seriously study on Friday nights or weekends, right?

Cameron Barnes
Cameron Barnes

10 new cards a day -> finish in 2.7 years
20 new cards a day -> finish in 1.4 years
30 new cards a day -> finish 0.9 years
But, any amount over your personal limit -> you'll burn out and never finish

Caleb Butler
Caleb Butler

You have to do it everyday, user

Adrian Jones
Adrian Jones

懐 and 懐かしい uses the same kanji
only took me 9 years of studying to notice this.

Zachary Taylor
Zachary Taylor

What kind of kissless virgin nerd studies on weekends or Friday nights instead of partying or going out with girlfriend?

David Clark
David Clark

u

Andrew Butler
Andrew Butler

Don't allow yourself to become demoralised friend

Here's a tip that will perhaps help you

Based on my experiences at least, and I've been doing this for probably 4 years now, every time you start anything new it it always feels like it's way too hard

Everything I've ever picked up and tried to read, I always think "why is this so fucking hard", no matter how easy it may be

The trick is you just have to stick to it, even if it feels like it's way above your level, you stick to it, and then you stick to it some more, and before you realise it you're looking back and laughing at how hard your past self found it

So maybe just try and stick to yotsuba instead of just assuming it's too hard and giving up, and you may see that you're not as bad as you thought

Austin Scott
Austin Scott

I've been running a kanjidamage kanji deck because I find it a little easier to learn through similar radicals even if the shit they teach you at first is mostly useless garbage, but I've been noticing that even after so long I haven't even made it past half of their "1700" kanji.

I have my new cards at 20 from the default 10, but I noticed these include both read and write cards so technically I'm only doing 10 new kanji per day.

Should I increase my new cards to 30-40? My usual anki session has me review a measly 100 cards per day (read+write so its actually just 50 kanji) and so far I feel comfortable with it

However I've also noticed that learning the kanji Aline isn't being very helpful at actually reading stuff since I don't know any jukugo.

Grayson Collins
Grayson Collins

/a/thread/141588841#p141609661
raw rice is called kome 米, while cooked rice is gohan ご飯

今日も美味しいお米が炊けたわ

Adrian Ward
Adrian Ward

But when does 米 turn into ご飯? Is it possible to define a point in time during cooking when this transformation occurs? Is this even well defined?
If you put the lid on the pot so you can't see what's inside, can we say that the material exists in both the states of 米 and ご飯 until you take off the lid and look inside, kind of like Schrödinger's Cat in quantum mechanics?

Ian Ross
Ian Ross

When you serve it.

Evan Thomas
Evan Thomas

I tend to think learning to produce when you're a beginner is not an especially efficient use of your time and usually just make it harder on you. My advice would be to delete the production card type and only do the recognition cards.

You can increase the amount to any number you're comfortable with really, the main question would be whether you're comfortable with the amount of reviews it'll equate to and whether you can keep up an acceptable retention rate. In any case you can always change the number of cards you're doing if it doesn't feel right.

So if you turn off production cards and do 20-30 new kanji a day or something you'd be able to finish up the 1700 kanji in about 2-3 months.

However I've also noticed that learning the kanji Aline isn't being very helpful at actually reading stuff since I don't know any jukugo.
Yeah so I think most (?) people here agree that learning kanji by themselves isn't necessarily the best way to go about it unless you have trouble remembering or differentiating the kanji. Learning words straight up will bootstrap you into reading much faster, since knowing the kanji by itself doesn't necessarily allow you to read any word containing it. So if you weren't feeling the kanji deck you could just drop it altogether and do 20-30 vocabulary words a day (using recognition cards). Then you could hit ~2k words in 2-3 months, and be in a good position to consume native material earlier.

Zachary Harris
Zachary Harris

Oh, and when it comes to getting yourself burned out, the important thing is just to be aware of whether it's feeling like too much and whether you're starting to skip days. You can do any amount of cards a day you want but it just needs to be an amount that you can do every day without fail.

There just tend to be a lot of people who dive in and commit to a very large number of new cards, and then talk themselves out of doing fewer cards even though they're starting to skip days and their reviews are getting out of hand.

Lincoln Cooper
Lincoln Cooper

Why is Hanahira so great? Is there a better way to learn Japanese than through cute little girls?

Thomas White
Thomas White

あおばちゃんが大好き!

Austin Stewart
Austin Stewart

It isn't cute at all though

Owen Russell
Owen Russell

いts あ ジョーク

Christian Mitchell
Christian Mitchell

I haven't deleted the production cards because I've somehow convinced myself that manually writing down the kanji will help me identify it easier later on.

I tried doing some vocab but found it super hard and frustrating trying to learn words without knowing the kanji in it, like xxx歳 without knowing that's the kanji for age / years old or 貯金 without knowing that's save up + money = savings. I decided doing kanji first and vocab after I finish but I'm getting very discouraged at how long this is taking while not really seeing any results.

Juan Nguyen
Juan Nguyen

20 a day gets you more than that in a month

Kevin Turner
Kevin Turner

Q: What kind of sandwich would a sukeban eat?
A: A sukebanh mi!

Ethan Butler
Ethan Butler

Not in read/write decks where doing 20 cards per day actually amounts to learning 10 new kanji per day.

Gavin Butler
Gavin Butler

While cooking it is both 米 and ご飯 and neither 米 nor ご飯.

Parker Powell
Parker Powell

これは"たとえば"の話だけど。
ある日、翼あるひとびとがグレタガルドの白い空を埋めつくしたんだ。

 天地の半ばに羽根の舞う 雪花のごとく繽紛と
 慈悲なき鏃の降りそそぐ 羽根のまにまに繽紛と
 燃える礫の降りそそぐ  羽根のまにまに繽紛と

 草葺き屋根の里が焼け ポプラ木立の邑が焼け
 世界の底を逃げまどう 無辜なる民の靴の音
 石の街路を駆けぬけて 荒れた畷を駆けぬけて
 世界の底を逃げまどう 馬のひづめの轟きよ

 エルフの森の王国も ドワーフ造りの山の砦も 機械仕掛けのノームの城も
 猖獗極まる侵寇の 波涛の呑まれて隊伍散る
 戦火の汀に立たされた 人の子たちの負け戦
 翼の泊まる空の下 堅牢堅固も過去の栄誉か 終焉迫る城塞都市

 聖なる騎士さえ堂に入り 円蓋の下 神よと祈った
 宮廷道化は楼閣のぼり 蝋の翼で飛ばんと嘯く
 陰に潜んだスラムの王は 武器を鎧って空を睨んだ
 暗き洞棲む妖術使いは 闇を纏って機を待った……

ほら、空ってどこにでも繋がってるよね
どこへ逃げたって、敵はその白い翼でどこまでも追っかけてくるんだ。
だから翼のない彼らは、どこにも繋がってない空を求めていた。
そんな願いが通じて、いま彼らはとてものどかな国でジングルベルを聴いていた―
これは"たとえば"の話だけど。
僕らが君に語るのは、たとえばそんなメルヘン。

Henry Adams
Henry Adams

Why do so many female vocaloids and utaites use "Boku"? Are there women out there who use it or "Ore"?

Daniel Morgan
Daniel Morgan

Konn nichi wa /djt/
Ore wa yon nen kara nihongo wo benkyo shi teiru. Demo dokusho dake shite, nazenara hanashi aite ga nakatta. Dare ka ga ore ni penpal no aite wo shite kure masen ka. Dekiru dake kawaikute wakai onna no ko ni shite hoshii wwwww. Romanji no koto goumen nasai, demo ore ga kanji wa deki masen.

Jackson Sanchez
Jackson Sanchez

because its gendy neutral so boys and girls can sing along

Chase Gutierrez
Chase Gutierrez

It's one syllable less than watashi, probably.

Jaxon Ramirez
Jaxon Ramirez

僕 sounds better than 私 when sung in those programs.

Alexander Smith
Alexander Smith

It's more gender neutral and casual.

Bentley Bennett
Bentley Bennett

I recognize that butt.

Parker Sanders
Parker Sanders

I went to the doctor today, turns out I gained 35 pounds in the last year. Looks like I'm well on my way to becoming a fat neckbearded weaboo.

Nathan Hughes
Nathan Hughes

learn thermodynamics

Juan Perez
Juan Perez

Does anyone remember the name of the crazy theory along the lines of "Japanese invented their own writing system before Chinese!"?

Jackson Taylor
Jackson Taylor

im also just fat as fuck lol

Grayson Myers
Grayson Myers

Now you both need to do real reps

Dylan Brooks
Dylan Brooks

https://youtu.be/TLc30VSPdgY?t=609
It actually comes from Hebrew.

Thomas Rogers
Thomas Rogers

Are you talking about 神代文字?

Robert Morris
Robert Morris

Ken-sama?

John Perez
John Perez

COMPLETELY pointless, everyone knows NEETSs commit suicide by age 30. I don't want to waste precious time at the gym instead of reading VNs.

Easton Moore
Easton Moore

Yes?

Dylan Lewis
Dylan Lewis

looks like i dont have long before i off myself then

Nathaniel Jones
Nathaniel Jones

today was actually leg day thats why i havent been posting much

Jason Carter
Jason Carter

exercise for weight loss meme

Dylan Jones
Dylan Jones

_____ meme meme

Tyler Walker
Tyler Walker

tfw 2 years left until suicide
Can I commit sudoku instead?

Jackson Jenkins
Jackson Jenkins

tfw finished 帝国の王女
It had much less technobabble and archaic politeness than I expected so the ride was relatively smooth. Time for ささやかな戦い.

Dylan Nelson
Dylan Nelson

That's only true if you let your semen get corrupted. Otherwise you become a wizard.

Evan Cooper
Evan Cooper

そしたら副作用なのか突然、頭がぐるぐる回りだしまっすぐ運転できないほどに。
まずい!すぐに高速道路を降りてガソリンスタンドで休憩してを何回か繰り返し
薬の効き目がなくなるまで約3時間くらいこのような状態でした。

What is he doing 繰り返し? Getting off the highway and resting?

Xavier Bell
Xavier Bell

自家発電
Now I'm curious about the second meaning.

Aaron Hall
Aaron Hall

Getting off the highway and resting?
Yeah

Robert Collins
Robert Collins

Here's an important tip for studying Japanese. Get eight hours or more of sleep every night or else you won't be able to study very well. I only got one hour of sleep and I'm paying the price.

Alexander Edwards
Alexander Edwards

Well boys, I'm finally going to be living the dream. 3 week vacation to glorious Nippon in a month and a half. I've been camming like no tomorrow so I can actually say something in Japanese. This is the most motivation I've had in years.

Turns out months of anki decks does not help so much with actually trying to have a conversation.

Lincoln Russell
Lincoln Russell

Daily reminder that every post you read on Sup Forums is a sentence you could've read in japanese and learned something.

Just stopping by for my once a month hour on Sup Forums before going back to futaba and 2channel, why aren’t you shitposting in japanese yet Sup Forums?

Logan Smith
Logan Smith

I'm ESL, so shitposting here is technically language study for me.

Luke Collins
Luke Collins

This thread is pretty much just a refuge for beginners who all come and go.

Brandon Mitchell
Brandon Mitchell

is there any reason to stick to limits like 25 or 30 new words per day in anki? Will it hurt me to do an additional 15 or 20 on top of that every once in a while?

Liam Reyes
Liam Reyes

Do as many as you want without getting sick of it and burning yourself out.
But take at least a 5 minute break every 30 minutes or it will start wearing out your concentration.

Ayden Parker
Ayden Parker

なるべく諦めない!
なせば大抵なんとかなる!

Time spent shitposting is time spent not studying. If you're about to engage in a silly argument or off-topic discussion, close the thread instead. Use your time productively!

Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!

Alexander Price
Alexander Price

Did you increase your daily rep limit to 9999?

Zachary Murphy
Zachary Murphy

なるべく諦めない!
なせば大抵なんとかなる!(ただしイケメンに限る)

Jordan James
Jordan James

Yes. Are there any other settings I should play around with like graduating intervals or anything like that?

I hear people say I should be going for something like 3 parts reading to 1 part reps but I don't see how I could do that. I'm currently spending most of my time on reps and importing everything I read with rikaisama. I assume it turns out that way after I've started exhausting basic vocabulary? Or was it a mistake to start mining and reading right off the bat instead of doing 2k or something?

Benjamin Powell
Benjamin Powell

i already have learned Japanese. I'm just here so that no one else can.

Jordan Thomas
Jordan Thomas

Does anyone know of any other web novels like Re:Zero?

Jordan Campbell
Jordan Campbell

logh is also a web novel
homesteading the noosphere etc

Nolan Barnes
Nolan Barnes

im just a pro lurker under my stairs

Dylan Ward
Dylan Ward

An extra 15 cards on one day is meaningless in the long run, I would just keep it consistent so you have a stable number of reviews each day and spend any extra time reading.

Ayden Ross
Ayden Ross

i suggest timeboxing, 2 min intervals or something, it works wonders for concentration.

Oliver Bailey
Oliver Bailey

How do I get better at reading names in kanji?

Nathaniel Myers
Nathaniel Myers

Friendly reminder to all neets
If you don't work then you are broken. If you have time to be learning Japanese then you have time to work towards your future career. Stop being a nuisance to your parents.

inb4 i want to be a translator

Jaxon Jackson
Jaxon Jackson

Most people don't do all the cards they mine on the same day.

Brayden Cox
Brayden Cox

Read more

Jackson Sanders
Jackson Sanders

But I dont know how to pronounce them

Caleb Moore
Caleb Moore

I don't even bother with that anymore, there's too many of them. Not worth the effort. The story that you're reading will introduce them anyway.

Jaxson Garcia
Jaxson Garcia

I have over 5000 unseen cards in my mining deck at this point. That's like 2.5 novels' worth. I just keep falling farther and farther behind.

Mason Hernandez
Mason Hernandez

that's what I'm afraid of

I don't want that to happen but I also want to actually read instead of just doing reps. What am I supposed to do?

Brody Lewis
Brody Lewis

Yes.

Aaron Howard
Aaron Howard

How do i solve this style user

Carson Ward
Carson Ward

Just stop mining once you hit your quota for the day.

Jayden Gray
Jayden Gray

Is there a section in the Google doc with a list of recommended Anki decks?
I found Core2k from the Anki setup pastebin but was wondering if there were others, especially interested in the yotsubato decks mentioned here

Zachary Hill
Zachary Hill

just remember the words normally instead of doing them in anki

Carson Phillips
Carson Phillips

Turns out months of anki decks does not help so much with actually trying to have a conversation.
months of grinding vocab doesnt do much of anything but let you recall the vocab in the setting you grinded in
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/blog/2005/11/05/learning-vocab-tips/
he puts it a but more succulently than I could

Alexander Barnes
Alexander Barnes

The CoR has the most commonly used ones. Click on the 教本 tab.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fEplq1S5f9wyVPzgzJw3v2l54w1KuvDf9yvNPU3AbG4/pubhtml?widget=true&headers=false&chrome=false#gid=133100607
The yotsubato deck is from the learning pack here:
http://livingjapanese.com/pages/yotsubato_reading_pack1.html

Henry Sanchez
Henry Sanchez

what is going on here

Isaiah Bell
Isaiah Bell

Sometimes there are variant kanji, the word can be written either way.

Jace Williams
Jace Williams

Life caught up with me and most of the kanji I knew drained out of my head in the span of 2-3 months. Now I'm stuck in the middle of an Anki deck that I can't understand. What do?

Luke Campbell
Luke Campbell

You can't forget the language in 2-3 months. Keep at it, you should be back at where you was in a few days.

Kayden Flores
Kayden Flores

Stop using methods like rote memorization and start reading, stop trying to learn the kanji on their own and start reading.

Carter Ross
Carter Ross

Is Yotsuba a good place to start? I heard someone from here talking about how he knew the kanji used in the manga, but still didn't know how to connect them to make sense.

Isaiah Stewart
Isaiah Stewart

write a short script to invert the mined deck such that the most recent is on the top

go easy on mining -- consider how frequently this will be used first, and frequently add new cards (twice weekly) to keep the relevance of the cards high (you just saw it a few days ago!)

Logan Turner
Logan Turner

that's because he didn't learn japanese, he learned kanji

see

Jose Ramirez
Jose Ramirez

Yotsuba& and similar manga are the best place to start. There is a word list for the first volume which will (hopefully) help you when you inevitably get confused by a colloquialism or unknown grammar construct. Make sure you've read or at least skimmed an entire grammar guide/book, reference it frequently. Don't make the mistake of getting caught in the timewasting trap of grinding contextless vocabulary, and don't get caught in the meme of learning kanji on their own, because that's almost completely useless information to have hence that person's experience with Yotsubato you talk about. Tae Kim discusses this on his blog in more depth.
www.guidetojapanese.org/blog/2014/06/23/you-cant-learn-kanji/

http://livingjapanese.com/pages/yotsubato_reading_pack1.html

Aiden Hughes
Aiden Hughes

Neah I was near native but then I stopped watching anime for a month and forgot everything

Jacob Jones
Jacob Jones

i was born japanese but after one too many big macs ive fully become a fat sweaty hakujim in body and mind

Levi Green
Levi Green

your image will never become a meme

Sebastian Martinez
Sebastian Martinez

it would be an amusing image if i understood how to read it

Anthony Robinson
Anthony Robinson

I'm not memeing though, I'm being serious

Asher Cook
Asher Cook

You'll need to look up some of the words but yeah, Yotsuba should be fine.
Though interestingly enough I studied kanji for a while and it actually did help me a good amount reading the manga. There's a lot more stuff you can guess from context if you know what the symbols mean. Didn't even have to look up 洗濯機 or 地球温暖化 for example, despite basically never hearing the terms before.

Nathan Perez
Nathan Perez

that image doesn't even make any sense, where are you supposed to start
why are there two paths to the 日本語名手 temple when you would be be doing things that are on either path normally?

Joshua Taylor
Joshua Taylor

New cards due today: 117
Let's do this shit.

Matthew Diaz
Matthew Diaz

The only things arguably worthwhile on the left side are the grammar decks (and only the DOJG one) and manga

Brandon Ward
Brandon Ward

I'm at 1.5, reading Hoshizora no Memoria. Feels okay.

Bentley Ortiz
Bentley Ortiz

i read the first as crowded and the second as loading my gun from 込める

Jeremiah Morris
Jeremiah Morris

tfw just started 3 weeks ago
i setup anki and have a good plan
i learned 3000 vocab today

why everyone say this so hard?
at this rate i will be fluent in 2 more days.

Lucas Diaz
Lucas Diaz

forget name of manga i didn't finish reading (and i reformatted my pc)
ask akinator
he remembered
lol

Nicholas Cooper
Nicholas Cooper

Just started learning 2 days ago, currently on the 4th column of Hiragana with about 80% confidence on the 39 words I've learnt so far from
here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zfBMDNkJuI

I plan on learning a new column every day adding the hiragana and words to my anki deck and sticking with it until about 95% confidence with words written in hiragana then moving on to katakana and repeat then kanji using the deck from the guide.

Is this going to fast or slow? and would it be more efficent to learn kanji while I'm learning hiragana/katakana or would it get confusing?

Joseph Robinson
Joseph Robinson

Joseph Brooks
Joseph Brooks

Go at your own pace. What works for you, works for you. However, I think you can crank out kana in two days. Just flash card that shit for a few hours until those symbols are comitted to muscle memory.
But again, what works for you works for you.

Robert Taylor
Robert Taylor

Yeah, you're definitely not wrong. I think grinding anki is a good way to build a base of vocab, but it definitely won't teach me how to actually use the language.

I've been using pimsleur and it's actually been really useful to get me running on how to comprehend and speak Japanese. I'm kind of surprised I've never heard it mentioned around here before.

Jeremiah Perry
Jeremiah Perry

Let's solve this mystery once and for all.
Do you think you could learn Japanese from watching anime?

I think I can actually do it.

Isaac Fisher
Isaac Fisher

I forgot to say I was planning to start reading Yotsuba when I was finished with the kana would it be beneficial to start now or would it just give me a headache?

Yeah I could probably grind out the kana really fast but what about words or do they come with learning kanji?

Ian Morales
Ian Morales

最初の問題です。
十分のマッチ棒を使って、ほしが作ってあります。
この十本をそのまま使って、べつのほしを作ってください。

Joseph Reyes
Joseph Reyes

its not a mystery you can learn what the anime says and talk like the anime but you cant learn what things other than non anime say and thus cant talk like non anime

Alexander Baker
Alexander Baker

Remember guys:

Do it for the Fu's!

Leo Powell
Leo Powell

マッチ棒を動かせないのなら
紙を逆さまにしてみたいなくだらん回答だろうな

Jackson Murphy
Jackson Murphy

Firefox doesn't want to cooperate with these characters. How can I fix this?

It's not a font problem or anything. It has to do with the file itself.

If I could get this working it would make importing characters into my mining deck a breeze.

Jason Richardson
Jason Richardson

This is disgusting, but it has given me an idea.

Why doesn't DJT create an alternative set of glorious 2D images to go with core?

Ian Phillips
Ian Phillips

View > Character Encoding > Auto-Detect > Japanese

Isaac Reyes
Isaac Reyes

I wouldn't be against that.

The only 2D image I can think of that core has right now is ほしい. But that's just off the top of my head.

Carter Reed
Carter Reed

wow, thanks

that was way easier than I thought it would be

that saves me a lot of trouble

Noah Davis
Noah Davis

マッチ棒を動いてもいいよ

Joseph Mitchell
Joseph Mitchell

Someone tried doing this already and no-one participated. I think only a few hundred images were ever contributed,

Juan Cruz
Juan Cruz

why use images at all?

they're not even helpful

you don't need them

Chase Rogers
Chase Rogers

you don't need them
Objectively true.

they're not even helpful
Up for dispute.

I find them extremely helpful.

Nicholas Stewart
Nicholas Stewart

I find them extremely helpful

in what way?

Jaxon Martinez
Jaxon Martinez

Hey friend, you might want to delete this post before the "anime japanese is real japanese!" memesters come out to decry it as ignorance.

I finished pimsleur forever ago - it's decent if you have the free time, but you'll get angry once you realize how little you know.

DJT has nothing to recommend except listening to seiyuu radio shows for listening practice once you finish it though, since most people don't care about speaking. It's frustrating how few oral communication practice resources there are for the language past the basics.

Ethan Walker
Ethan Walker

i press the post button in full confidence and awareness always

Hunter Allen
Hunter Allen

DJT has nothing to recommend except listening to seiyuu radio shows for listening practice once you finish it though, since most people don't care about speaking. It's frustrating how few oral communication practice resources there are for the language past the basics.
You may think that this is a joke but anything that's spoken japanese is basically equally good as long as the rate of speech and grammar level is high enough. Guess what? This includes some anime.

Alexander Gomez
Alexander Gomez

There should be plenty of ways to find a language learning chat partner over the internet, though. And those are the best practice resource, since oral communication more or less requires you to talk to another person. If there's no one on the other side of the conversation then you're just screwing around.

Caleb Rivera
Caleb Rivera

なら6角星とかでいいんじゃない?

Wyatt Anderson
Wyatt Anderson

anime is like junk food picture your study regimen like a tv dinner

you got some like disgusting meat some corn and potatos or whatever and then you got this little brownie

that lil brownie represents how much anime you should be consuming relative to other things

Nolan Price
Nolan Price

You're totally right - it's just that going the self-taught route means you miss a lot of the fundamental basics; even if my vocabulary level is high, I rather be a NEET and shadow everyday conversational sentences to build up the confidence first. I don't think it's wrong to point out that those resources are lacking, compared to all the rest for learning Japanese available.

Listening practice is just recognition, it's the active, productive oral communication part I'm talking about.

Besides, while anime might be "compelling content" for some, it's basically a placebo for the timesink involved.

Connor Butler
Connor Butler

Listening practice is just recognition, it's the active, productive oral communication part I'm talking about.
you aren't going to get production unless you go and talk to japanese people

nobody can handhold you through that

Besides, while anime might be "compelling content" for some, it's basically a placebo for the timesink involved.

your posts are a placebo to your ego

James Hill
James Hill

thousands of hours put into making anki decks, self-study guides and various resources for learning the written language
a handful of youtube videos and pimsleur aimed at N5 level oral practice

You'd be deluded to think there isn't a problem there.

Josiah Green
Josiah Green

for like 80% of your media consumption it legitimately does not matter what you're consuming as long as it's not literally meant for toddlers

all that's necessary is causing your brain to generate the necessary neural connections for information to be transmitted from japanese material subconsciously instead of by consciously wrangling it

unless you plan on reading classical japanese or legal documents you actually have to try really hard to fuck up and pick material that will not teach you everything you need to know

now there is a 20% of the time when you do have to be legitimately pushing your boundaries but that's time you should either be spending reading japanese-language japanese grammar books or doing flashcards, not consuming medoa

Brody Wilson
Brody Wilson

my study regimen is like 6 brownies and an anki-flavored slice of ham

Tyler Collins
Tyler Collins

thousands of hours
kek
more like "redistributing preexisting material"
a handful of youtube videos and pimsleur aimed at N5 level oral practice
you overestimate the small quantity of conversation-oriented language-oriented speech-oriented material there is

there is basically none

people who are stupid enough to want to learn japanese through speaking it will either to got japan or hire a tutor, there literally just isn't a market for selflearners doing conversation material past tourist-level japanese

Brandon Baker
Brandon Baker

you could play loveplus on the nintendo ds thats pretty good speaking practice 爆笑

shoutouts to anyone here who ever held their ds up to their face and said gomen into it

Brandon Myers
Brandon Myers

I have friends here in Japan who can speak Japanese well enough to land jobs, yet can't read kana on a menu or at karaoke. I'm the exact opposite, and sound like a drunken autist slurring all my words with my accent while being able to read well enough to do amateur manga translations on the side.

It's enough to make me want to pay for a niconico subscription just to have an audience that I know will cringe anyways, all from the safety of my bedroom.

Jaxson Allen
Jaxson Allen

I have friends here in Japan who can speak Japanese well enough to land jobs, yet can't read kana on a menu or at karaoke.
that's because they're illiterate, it has nothing to do with not knowing the language

I'm the exact opposite, and sound like a drunken autist slurring all my words with my accent while being able to read well enough to do amateur manga translations on the side.
oh, you're one of those people who overestimate their language ability

you know how there are ESLs that speak in extremely broken english yet go on to translate things from english into their nature language? that's you, but with japanese

you literally just have not acquired enough of the japanese language to speak it fluently

at best you just need to practice putting the sounds out of your mouth, but this is clearly not the case if you think that practicing talking to yourself will help, and ~science~ has proven that speech training won't do any better for you than reading if you need it

Nathan Powell
Nathan Powell

Speaking Japanese well enough to get a job doesn't mean all that much in terms of proficiency, depending on the job. You don't need to be able to read novels to move stuff around a warehouse.

Alexander Rogers
Alexander Rogers

believe it or not, you can live on brownies if you have to

Lucas Bell
Lucas Bell


6画星を作るとマッチ棒が4つ残るけど
星という漢字は10のマッチ棒で書けるんですね
なるほど

Luis Morris
Luis Morris

that's because they're illiterate, it has nothing to do with not knowing the language

this is true

I have a japanese american friend who is literally illiterate but can speak japanese fluently because he was raised in a household that spoke both languages but never bothered with literacy because he never needed it

I don't really think that's an uncommon circumstance either.

Thomas Thomas
Thomas Thomas

J->E is a lot easier than E->J. Do you know how many Chinese there are who can pass N2, yet can't speak a word of Japanese? I live in the part of Tokyo that's obnoxiously foreign, it's all too common.

Similarly, it's why Japanese people suck at speaking - lack of actual practice, while only able to understand the written word.

I'm actually jealous of people who are only illiterate, because (I assume) learning the language is so much simpler when you're just having to attach symbols to the language you already know. I would say basic conversational Japanese ranks higher in importance than N2 reading comprehension.

Robert Ortiz
Robert Ortiz

you mean functional japanese trumps reading books wowzers i woulda never have guessed

James Davis
James Davis

J->E is a lot easier than E->J.
false
Do you know how many Chinese there are who can pass N2, yet can't speak a word of Japanese?
do you know how many english people there are that graduated highschool yet don't know their local laws?
I live in the part of Tokyo that's obnoxiously foreign, it's all too common.
cool, you live in japan, how about going out and talking to some japanese people? what, do you have social anxiety? hey man, maybe that's the reason you can't speak for shit

Similarly, it's why Japanese people suck at speaking - lack of actual practice, while only able to understand the written word.
every japanese person who I've seen (note: I didn't say "known personally" there) that was actually bad at speaking has actually not even known english well enough to know that -ing isn't a "present continuous" marker

I'm actually jealous of people who are only illiterate, because (I assume) learning the language is so much simpler when you're just having to attach symbols to the language you already know.
learning how to read is simpler when you already know the language, wow, you're so profound

it's not like you can read without knowing japanese senpai, you can't enforce false equivalences just because you're dysphoric

I would say basic conversational Japanese ranks higher in importance than N2 reading comprehension.

basic conversational japanese is a prerequisite to passing the actual N2

Ryder Williams
Ryder Williams

basic conversational japanese is a prerequisite to passing the actual N2
There is no spoken production component of the JLPT.

Ryder Mitchell
Ryder Mitchell

I would say basic conversational Japanese ranks higher in importance than N2 reading comprehension.

It just depends what your goals are and where you are?

Yeah obviously if you're in Japan and need Japanese RIGHT NOW then any speaking ability is worth more than any reading ability

But in the long term, especially if you aren't in Japan, having vocab and grammar down is more important since it is the foundation for everything else.

Also, "good enough to do amateur manga translations" means nothing. Anyone with kanjitomo can translate manga. Doing it without mistakes or doing it well is another thing, but just doing it doesn't say much about your level

Matthew Richardson
Matthew Richardson

yeah its pretty foolish isnt it lol

Jordan Lopez
Jordan Lopez

spoken production is not its own skill

Parker Evans
Parker Evans

my troll alert is going freaking NUTS @ this post

Gabriel Jackson
Gabriel Jackson

Go to bed, phone.

Christopher Wright
Christopher Wright

It doesn't match my uninformed world view so it must be a troll
nice

Adrian Ramirez
Adrian Ramirez

I used to be like you until I actually started. Try listening raw every now and again, it will fucking destroy you.

Christian James
Christian James

i made both of those posts from my macbook air dude maybe you should just stick to on topic posting

who are you to say whos world view is uninformed eh m80

結局なんでもいいけどボクはそれでも釣りに行く

釣りジャンキーmofacka

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4PKCcGyyx0

Landon Phillips
Landon Phillips

正解です
おめでとう~

The moral of the story is learn to write your kanji.

Tyler Robinson
Tyler Robinson

writing kanji is not going to help me holler at べっぴん bitches in the club so いやだ

Adam Davis
Adam Davis

>釣り
帰れ、くそ爺
このサイトは少女のサイトだわ

Ethan Hernandez
Ethan Hernandez

basic conversational japanese is a prerequisite to passing the actual N2
spoken production is not its own skill
Non sequitur.
Please try harder.
Trolling is more than a few minor responses.
Thank you.

Hudson Wood
Hudson Wood

ボクは3次元girl爆笑

Isaac Clark
Isaac Clark

hey man I'm not the one pretending he lives in a reality divorced from people who actually study the human brain

Levi Wilson
Levi Wilson

嫌だ
めっちゃキモい

Xavier Bell
Xavier Bell

Looks like someone need to relearn basic logic.

Lincoln Stewart
Lincoln Stewart

Well now that you've made it clear who you are I can say with certainty that I am more informed than you.

Matthew Gonzalez
Matthew Gonzalez

I'm on topic because I'm posting japanese text
nice now how about posting some manga?

Brody Davis
Brody Davis

here and oh my god this setup is great

Little did I know you could use the --sid param with mpv to run multiple subtitles at the same time. And on top of that I can have a transcript of the raw sub file running in firefox which rikaisama can read and export any vocab I want to anki.

This beats the hell out of using an OCR program.

Dylan Lee
Dylan Lee

I'm on topic because I'm posting japanese text
このスレのためは「日本語でクソポスト」と言うんです。

Lincoln Anderson
Lincoln Anderson

i know everything about the human brain i read romeo tanakas 最果てのイマ

then show me something meaningful with your insight veteran djt poster ive been waiting for a while

i dont read 漫画s sorry

just a little anime here and there between visual games

post? as in mailbox? can you just write that in english for the sakes of all parties involved

Justin Myers
Justin Myers

この板が「アニメとマンガ」で

Isaiah Jones
Isaiah Jones

Okay you post some japanese that isn't ass and I'll post something meaningful

Logan Phillips
Logan Phillips

ok hows this このスレのためは「日本語でクソポスト」と言うんです。

Eli Collins
Eli Collins

我が目的が具体的本当それで読みをしよう
時々を掛けつもりそれならアンタがかび臭い

Dominic Lewis
Dominic Lewis

Anyone have that flowchart image that says, do you want to learn japanese? yes/no, do your reps.

Thomas Cruz
Thomas Cruz

Really though like, if you read enough japanese to pass N1 without knowing chinese beforehand then you can definitely have basic conversations. You might not be speaking fluently but even if you have never spoken to a japanese person in your life you can probably do better than people who have taken a couple years of classes.

Liam Brooks
Liam Brooks

I hope you weren't trying to make sense.

Christian Cox
Christian Cox

How exactly should i be reading the underlined sentence? or at least the 渡す用のショップカード part. does 渡す用 basically mean "business of handing over" or are the two terms separate? the fact that there's nothing between 渡す and 用 and the の is after both words is what's getting me here.

Austin Morales
Austin Morales

I hope you weren't under the impression that you were fluent.

Brandon Allen
Brandon Allen

誰か一緒にスロット打ちに行こうぜ!

Christian Ortiz
Christian Ortiz

oh god that translation

渡すためのショップカード
と同じ意味だと思うよ

Jayden Baker
Jayden Baker

みんな何処住んでんの?

Jonathan Jones
Jonathan Jones

can you just write that in english for the sakes of all parties involved
This thread is for shitposting in Japanese.
俺の日本語は穴じゃないと思うか? 結婚しよう

Caleb Cook
Caleb Cook

This thread is for shitposting in Japanese.
cool, did you know that's not what you said though?

Brandon Sanchez
Brandon Sanchez

I assumed so due to the fact that my grammar is trash. What did I actually say, and what should I have said?

Benjamin Nelson
Benjamin Nelson

誰か友達になってよ

Jonathan Taylor
Jonathan Taylor

How long does J-Cat test take?

Julian Cox
Julian Cox

Around nyan hours.

Austin Long
Austin Long

用 is basically a suffix that denotes "for the purpose of"

dictionary examples:
学校用掛け地図 - wall map for use in schools
女性用衣料 - women's apparel

渡す用 - for handing over

Ayden Bailey
Ayden Bailey

Really though like, if you read enough japanese to pass N1 without knowing chinese beforehand then you can definitely have basic conversations.
No. It's a different ability that needs specific practice in order to improve it.
but even if you have never spoken to a japanese person in your life you can probably do better than people who have taken a couple years of classes.
Bullshit. Classes usually have a strong focus on speaking and someone speaking for a few years is going to be able to speak better than someone who hasn't spoken at all.

You're fucking delusional, mate.

Aaron Diaz
Aaron Diaz

No. It's a different ability that needs specific practice in order to improve it.
You're wrong.
It takes practice to get fluent but not to get above the leagues of idiots who speak "conversational" japanese

Mason Rivera
Mason Rivera

No. It's a different ability that needs specific practice in order to improve it.
you got a citation on that? what you're saying basically amounts to the same thing as "you can learn how to drive without knowing how to keep track of moving objects"

sure you might be able to pass a test if you cheat in the right ways but no you haven't actually "learned how to drive"

that's what N2s amount to

Classes usually have a strong focus on speaking and someone speaking for a few years is going to be able to speak better than someone who hasn't spoken at all.

classes have a strong focus on speaking and it is for this very reason that they fail to spend enough time imparting actual japanese on their students. someone who doesn't know more than half of tae kim of grammar will not be able to hold a conversation until they spend weeks newly learning lots of rules that they never knew before, while someone who can literally already read will need to spend at most a day or two getting to grips with the pace and music of conversation

you're the delusional one who refuses to use their brain

Jacob Davis
Jacob Davis

アイコス吸ってる人いる?

Adrian Collins
Adrian Collins

わりぃ我さん怒鳴らないで

id do your nihongo hole baby and leave it hanging halfway out of you when im done

dont worry dude hes probably just right i mean if youve done enough flashcards you should have no problems and sound just like this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-HKKXxUMH4

Sebastian Walker
Sebastian Walker

Classes have a strong focus on speaking
Have you ever taken a language class? Someone who takes private lessons from a tutor for a couple years is going to be great at speaking, sure, but a group class is probably the worst possible setting to put yourself in if you're aiming to learn anything about a language. Even a shut-in who picked up most of his grammar from anime will probably be in a better position than a student whose only experience came primarily from listening to his equally inexperienced peers stumble over textbook sentences.

Caleb King
Caleb King

高校生でタバコ吸ってたらあかんやろ
どことなくじもんじとうっぽい

高校生がタバコ吸ってたらあかんやろ
どことなくせっきょうっぽい

Aiden Gomez
Aiden Gomez

妹のパンツが臭いけど、匂いが気持ちいいです

Christian Ward
Christian Ward

アイコスはタバコというよりただの水蒸気やね
トイレで吸っても警報器反応せんで?
大人になったら普通のタバコにするわおっちゃん

Xavier Sullivan
Xavier Sullivan

大きくなったらジュポジュポやってみてね

Jordan Gomez
Jordan Gomez

I'd say that you should learn words with kanji. I just don't see a reason to learn the two separately. That way you get the reading and the word itself.

Jeremiah James
Jeremiah James

誰かスロット打ち行こうぜ

Oliver Hughes
Oliver Hughes

まんがさがしてみた

「が」じゃなくって「で」だったよ

Matthew Phillips
Matthew Phillips

ちんこ打ちの途中だからごめんね

Colton Bell
Colton Bell

おっちゃんは餓鬼の頃吸ってなかったん?

Asher Fisher
Asher Fisher

そんなに謝罪しなくていいよ
僕が悪い事したみたいに見えるからw
ちんこ打ち君は何処住んでるの?

Robert Rivera
Robert Rivera

w
ohboy

Joseph Foster
Joseph Foster

何すかsempai?w

Zachary Turner
Zachary Turner

w
ohboy

Eli Hernandez
Eli Hernandez

ちんこ家に住んでいるけど
アンド・ユー

Christopher Jackson
Christopher Jackson

僕は蹣乕屋に住んでるから近くだね

Jordan Cruz
Jordan Cruz

how am I supposed to read yotsubato when I get the urge to touch myself every time I set my eyes on this decadent 美少女

Justin Morales
Justin Morales

そんな店聞いたことないなあ

色んな意味で

shoutouts to everyone who remembers the window girl ero clicker game

whatcha all know bout that

Elijah Lee
Elijah Lee

pfft asagi best 隣

Levi Jackson
Levi Jackson

Depends on whether you've done RTK or not. 20 is the limit for most people who haven't. I've heard it said a lot of times though that there is practically no limit on the amount of new cards you can do if you know the kanji.

Andrew Young
Andrew Young

ふーかはたばこすいすぎだ

Luke Phillips
Luke Phillips

Does Sup Forums have any Documentaries worth watching about Japan?
in Japanese or English.
I remember /jp/ used to have a bunch of downloads for NHK documentaries, the ホタル one with the clearest river of Japan was great.

Jose Allen
Jose Allen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5KeRbLmnmc

Logan Wood
Logan Wood

Being familiar with the kanji is no doubt helpful but the user still has to remember both reading and meaning. If they were familiar with the reading or the meanings, only then would it really be fair to say there is practically no limit.

Unless they've worked through RTK2, I guess. That would probably be a huge advantage.

What are you interested in? I mean, a generic search on Youtube using 記録映画 as the search term has a pretty high yield.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%B2%E6%98%A0%E7%94%BB

Bentley Phillips
Bentley Phillips

Asagi is a bit of a bitch, though.

Henry Miller
Henry Miller

Kanji readings are something you can pick up super easily after learning a couple words and they are best left out of rote memorization.
Knowing the meanings does help in memorizing vocab quite a lot, though, and also definitely helps readings stick way better. I can attest to that.

Angel Rogers
Angel Rogers

You get at least one meaning for the kanji from doing RTK. As for RTK2, that book seems pretty pointless to me. It seems like a much better idea to just learn the readings by learning vocab.

Wyatt Hernandez
Wyatt Hernandez

You guys have such shit taste.

Joshua Flores
Joshua Flores

くその味を持ちますよ〜

Jason Myers
Jason Myers

someone who can literally already read will need to spend at most a day or two getting to grips with the pace and music of conversation

You don't seem to be aware there's a million dollar industry set up around eikaiwa's simply because people can't SPEAK just because they can read.

They're two separate skills. Anyone with a background in teaching could tell you this, but you want to convince yourself you know more Japanese than you actually do, so whatever.

Camden Sullivan
Camden Sullivan

I was told I might have luck getting these VN choices translated here. So if anyone can help out that would be great.

I know the first two options here are something along the lines of "Lover" and "Love Slave".

I have no clue about the rest.

Jackson Harris
Jackson Harris

DJT is not your personal translation service.

Jayden Ward
Jayden Ward

Why are you reading something you don't understand?

Nicholas Davis
Nicholas Davis

Why are you reading a VN you can't read, EOP?

Nathan Foster
Nathan Foster

I know the first two options here are something along the lines of "Lover" and "Love Slave".
Wait, firstly, where did you get that from?

Juan Perez
Juan Perez

why are you playing bl are you gay

William Adams
William Adams

Indeed but it doesn't hurt to ask.

The interface is translated and some of the dialogue and choices are translated but only about 10% and unfortunately machine translators are not compatible with this game. I was interested in these ones so I thought I would ask.

Jordan Ward
Jordan Ward

1. no
2. done the front hole
3. done the back hole
4. done both
5. both with another dude
6. secret
7. oh i fucked up

Download a program called KanjiTomo and you should be able to figure that sorta stuff out yourself

Nolan Adams
Nolan Adams

Well I am guessing based on other stuff in the game. By that point in the story your maid is either your lover or your love slave.

So when replaying this scene you can choose which she is.

Jason Myers
Jason Myers

Indeed but it doesn't hurt to ask.
Yes it does. You have selfishly come here and disrupted our thread.

If you want help learning Japanese, that's another matter.

Liam Scott
Liam Scott

theres no she your options are do it in the penis or in the bum

Brody Carter
Brody Carter

hey no ones been posting for the last half hour can you NOT come in here and interrupt our thread with your japanese SHIT please

Samuel Rivera
Samuel Rivera

Thank you.

Brandon Moore
Brandon Moore

Reminder once again that ban evasion is against the rules. Hope you enjoy your rangeban, shitposter-kun.

Julian Wood
Julian Wood

You should translate VNs, I'm sure the EOP community would welcome your high quality translations.

Ian Jones
Ian Jones

I already do bb

Parker Nguyen
Parker Nguyen

the different components of language are not black boxes with perfect isolation from eachother

you literally cannot comprehend spoken language without having an acquired grammar and vocabulary

you literally cannot speak until you /surpass/ acquiring the comprehension level necessary to generate what you need to speak

and guess what? it literally happens on its own. when you actually know the language, *the speaking ability is there*. it's literally impossible for a neurotypical person to learn a human language without ending up being able to converse in it at a basic level (read: conversational fluency), even if they never actually practice speaking that language, accent being whatever it ends up being, minutes derusting being if they be.

the fact that you (or the person you're pretending to be) pulled out amateur manga translations speaks wonders about your incorrect assessment of your own skill level, and your blatant misunderstanding of reality only makes it worse. you do not need conversation practice, you need to read more, and frankly, you need to stop pretending your inability to speak doesn't stem from not knowing the language. if you can't speak, you don't know japanese. the goes every single last idiot who "can read" that gets scammed into conversation schools.

Xavier Ortiz
Xavier Ortiz

ive never been banned dude youre actually a retard *and* you dont know japanese *and* you make nothing but off topic posts what up

Colton Davis
Colton Davis

youre projecting ブロ and not saying much of anything ブロ its just noise ブロ

try using facts instead of opinions ブロ

Nolan Hughes
Nolan Hughes

if you cannot generate sensible english/japanese, you are not fluent. if you are not fluent, you cannot understand unpredictable text. if you cannot understand unpredictable text, you are not literate. if you are not literate, you cannot actually read in the language, only a predictable subset of it. if someone can use the language in their field of discipline at work, but can't talk to people over lunch, then they don't actually know the language, they know a business/academic jargon subset that is much more predictable.

generating sensible english/japanese is not a result of practicing speaking, it is a direct result of having actually acquired the language. if you have acquired the language, and you cannot speak, then the only possible barriers to speech are vocal incompetence, anxiety, and brain damage. if you do not have vocal incompetence, anxiety, or brain damage, and you cannot speak, then you do not actually know the language. I'm sorry, but this is just how it is. when people think they know a language, but cannot speak it even when they try and they don't have any unique issues preventing them from doing so, *they do not actually know the language*.

Ethan Jones
Ethan Jones

Is it bad that if I get a card wrong in anki I'll just pass it anyway as long as it's obvious enough

Juan Hernandez
Juan Hernandez

you wrote that so fucking fast i cant believe youre for real right now i didnt even read your post i just am wowing at the amount of text ill reply in a minute when im able to digest all this 英語

Ryan Jenkins
Ryan Jenkins

ok now that i read all that diarrhea i just have to ask you do realize its not the words themselves but how you say them that makes spoken japanese what it is a lot of the time right

you cant read and learn how to accentuate parts of speech without talking come the fuck on ブロ

i look forward to the next wall of NONSENSE

Ryder Jenkins
Ryder Jenkins

環境汚染国会気候変動自然科学者会議

Levi Hughes
Levi Hughes

if you actually consume enough spoken japanese then accent be acquired just like grammar and vocabulary are when you consume anything, next objection

Isaac Rivera
Isaac Rivera

hold on dude your sweeping generalization is not strong enough to hold up in my court of bullshit bustin bitch

Juan Bell
Juan Bell

environmental pollution association climate change nature scientist meeting

Hudson Bailey
Hudson Bailey

What's more important to you: having nice Anki stats, or actually remembering the card correctly?

Dylan Rodriguez
Dylan Rodriguez

if you have an actual objection to my statement then I recommend that you submit it within the next response or else I will rightfully declare myself the victor upon my sword of trollbait

Hudson Turner
Hudson Turner

Stats all day every day

Christopher Phillips
Christopher Phillips

環境汚染問題意識国会国際気候変動自然科学者会議

David Young
David Young

Just install True Retention and pick out your favorite placebo stat, you're the kind of person I made it for.

Cooper Gutierrez
Cooper Gutierrez

are you kidding me youre the one still replying like an idiot i dont give a rats fuck about whatever topic im not even the one who started it baka!!

you dont win though unless its being the best at saying nothing with the most words lmao

Ian Myers
Ian Myers

very well, objection not found, victory declared

just in case you're curious what my next prewritten response was going to be once you gave the only legitimate objection possible, "I listened to lots of japanese and don't have pitch accent", it's as follows:

ok cool so you're pretending to know more japanese than you actually do

oh, you're not? can you prove it, pretty please? there's this super easy piece of japanese I want to read, but as I'm an illiterate who can only speak (lol!) I cannot. please translate it for me, oh fluent reader sama!

第3水準に追加された10字は表2の通りである。Unicodeで別の符号が与えられていたために追加されたものである。これらは表の下に示した従来の文字に対する異体字である。

Julian Jones
Julian Jones

i read 'difficult' [to do] 難い as 'meaty'
send help

Adrian Ward
Adrian Ward

小僧 i won the 瞬間 your お父ちゃん blew one off in your 母ちゃんs cunt 9月前 you were born print and ポスト that shit

i didnt read the green words because i dont care about some 負け犬s what if nerd shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8ci2qi-Iys

Angel Bailey
Angel Bailey

As a non biased third party, I too declare you the victor. Your side of the debate was not only more fun to read, but also more educational.

don't be a sore loser, you get a silver trophy for effort.

Liam Powell
Liam Powell

thx

Ayden Moore
Ayden Moore

what debate all i did was get my friends to play with me for a little bit to distract me from remembering im all alone in this world while i waited for my dinner to cook

Cooper Hall
Cooper Hall

大阪の店で吸ってみた。ほんまやばかったで。店から出てきたところをほとんど吐いちゃった。
そんな味が好き?

James Wright
James Wright

株式会社あなたの幸せが私の幸せ世の為人の為人類幸福繋がり創造即ち我らの使命なり今まさに変革の時ここに熱き魂と愛と情鉄の勇気と利他の精神を持つ者が結集せり日々感謝喜び笑顔繋がりを確かな一歩とし地球の永続を約束する公益の志溢れる我らの足跡に歴史の花が咲くいざゆかん浪漫輝く航海へ
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/あなたの幸せが私の幸せ

Leo Lopez
Leo Lopez

or disguises shitpost as "advice" that’s blatantly obvious

Xavier Young
Xavier Young

friendly reminder that some people are legitimately retarded or literally children and need to be told obvious things and a non-patronizing regular post doing so in order to prevent these people from falling into traps that poison the thread for everyone else is not a bad thing

Michael Foster
Michael Foster

set new cards to 0
set daily limit to X
you do them every day - if cards for today < X then add Y new at the end

start with X=100, Y=5 and adjust to your attention span
after a while load is constant, new ones appear only when needed
mind you - you won't score any speed records this way, but it wont feel like a chore either

Noah Peterson
Noah Peterson

placebo
well it works for me!

Ryan Evans
Ryan Evans

Does anyone have the YT link to the Jap variety show where the hosts try to speak in English to English Siri on an iphone and have hilarious trouble with it?

Nathaniel King
Nathaniel King

stats tsop

Ryder Rogers
Ryder Rogers

nukemarine

What the fuck is this meme

Levi Campbell
Levi Campbell

I would also like to see this

Jason Wood
Jason Wood

upload collection.anki2 files so that I can take graphs of your scheduling metadata

Jacob Garcia
Jacob Garcia

is it おれわにっぽん or おれがにっぽん i always get these confused

Camden Harris
Camden Harris

俺はわにーぽんです。

Jonathan Hernandez
Jonathan Hernandez

おやすみおにいちゃん

ゆめであいにいくよ

Christian Harris
Christian Harris

And let you know all my dirty secrets? No way.

Jonathan Brooks
Jonathan Brooks

tfw remember words like 定期券 perfectly, thanks to core teaching me the readings and meanings in various other words
b-but m-muh kanji study
RTK cucks, when will they learn?

Grayson Brown
Grayson Brown

143 reps
Do you take 5 new cards a day or something?

Dominic Mitchell
Dominic Mitchell

30.

Nathaniel Perry
Nathaniel Perry

トランプ氏

James Morgan
James Morgan

What the fuck is this, a Let's Read?

Jace Ross
Jace Ross

Can DJT explain me why the "die if one is killed" thing happens in Japanese?

I think I understand grammar well enough to understand the explanation.

Is is different concepts of disappearing/ceasing to exist? Or is it a complete mistake on translation?

Ryder Gutierrez
Ryder Gutierrez

Why don't you post the Japanese line instead

Zachary Young
Zachary Young

I figured the Gurren one at least was a "even if someone's dead the memory of them lives on" kind of thing

Idk though

Josiah Torres
Josiah Torres

aren't most of those lines about immortal or incredibly hard to kill characters

Jonathan Nelson
Jonathan Nelson

it was, that was the whole story

Camden Cox
Camden Cox

He died? Thanks for the spoilers, I was about to watch it.

Michael Lee
Michael Lee

No, it's retarded translations made by people with no understanding of the language taking things literally. What should be a very simple statement like "I couldn't kill him even if I tried" or "Even with wounds that would kill any normal man, he won't die" becomes gibberish like "He wouldn't die if I killed him".

The whole "people die if they are killed" line is literally just Shirou explaining common fucking sense when confronted with magical bullshit. People should stay dead, you shouldn't be able to get up after having half your head blown off, basic concepts intrinsic to life.

Oliver Martin
Oliver Martin

She's translating Japanese newspapers in English

Nolan Morgan
Nolan Morgan

Do you know what the Japanese is that they're translating from? I'm assuming those screenshots are all from the same expression

Nathaniel Cook
Nathaniel Cook

殺しても死なない

William Adams
William Adams

The FSN one is literal at least

Luke Sullivan
Luke Sullivan

The amount of awful translators in the world never ceases to amaze me

Blake Ross
Blake Ross

Meant to quote

Liam Williams
Liam Williams

Andrew Brown
Andrew Brown

sample being

sample

Blake Flores
Blake Flores

Hey Sup Forums, I have something to ask. So atm I'm learning intermediate Japanese but it seems I've encountered some problems. One of them is reading. Sometimes I have trouble parsing/analyzing the sentence structure and have to re-read many times, thus consumes more time. For example today it took me >10 mins to read two pages of japanese text in the book 日本語上級読解 (ACL Press) (not sure the text should be called 中文 or 長文) and still couldn't fully understand every sentence. I haven't read much reading textbooks but I think I can't take N2 test as I am now.
Second is vocab. I've reached 5k words in core deck and 1k in mined deck but this is taking longer and longer to finish everyday, as words get harder and I have to look up J-J dic often. I want to fully understand every word I learn, but this is just taking too much time.
any advice, Sup Forums?

Samuel Sanchez
Samuel Sanchez

It's a set phrase which is incorrectly translated, possibly on purpose sometimes for its meme value.

Josiah Rodriguez
Josiah Rodriguez

stop focusing on textbooks & anki and just read fun material

Adam Turner
Adam Turner

Because I don't have them.

But I've searched for a similar line in LOGH, where Poplan says:

Ivan Konev no yarou nanka... [korosaretemo shiranai yatsu da] to omo... I can't keep up, it's spoken pretty quickly, but I guess the part in brackets is enough to figure it out.

イヴァンコネヴのやろう何か、「殺されても知らないやつだ」と思。。。

I would record the audio, but my audio board can't be used as a recording device, even with updated drivers. If anyone has episode 74, check around 13:20 for it.

Connor Gutierrez
Connor Gutierrez

Oh, it's not shiranai, it's shinanai, as said.
I'll look into this stock phrase.

Brandon Hall
Brandon Hall

If you're at 6k words, you're nowhere near N2 level.

Read and practice more. You need to improve your reading speed, vocab, and just get more reading experience. You're on the right track, and probably it would be a good time to start reading something outside textbooks, like a VN or something if you haven't started yet.

Nathan Barnes
Nathan Barnes

Find something you actually want to read so you will read more and learn more.

Noah Cooper
Noah Cooper

wtf

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/k10010523211000/k10010523211000.html

what kind of medicine do you put in dehumidifiers

Xavier Mitchell
Xavier Mitchell

worst corea

I don't know what you expected.

Jackson Hughes
Jackson Hughes

You'll enjoy this

Owen Phillips
Owen Phillips

Probably some perfume or similar. That site only uses easy words, so 薬 can refer to probably any chemical.

Caleb Jones
Caleb Jones

So I just broke the 1k mark on core (400 mature cards, 600 young~) and it feels like it got much easier. Is this just a temporary phase at this point or can I learn Japanese?

Asher Gray
Asher Gray

The first 1000 is the easiest it could possibly be. Maybe you're getting used to the basics at last, but the difficulty ramps up from here.

Angel Gomez
Angel Gomez

Is this just a temporary phase at this point

Yes

can I learn Japanese

We'll know for sure if you ever push through and finish reading something above your level.

Eli Evans
Eli Evans

Oh dear god. At least he got the "two mages over there" part right.

Christopher Jones
Christopher Jones

but the difficulty ramps up from here
Is this true or is dekinai-chan behind this post trying to make me quit? You'd think the more vocab/kanji you acquire the easier new ones would be...

Nathaniel Collins
Nathaniel Collins

Yes and no. You've been doing easy words that you probably heard in animu already, so words will get harder and more abstract. On the other hand you're getting practice with kanji, so that part will get easier.

Easton Gomez
Easton Gomez

ah i see
i cheated and read another article, it was a disinfectant

Eli Flores
Eli Flores

I wonder if I can make it for the test in July. And about outside material, I'm reading 夏目漱石's こころ (though not much). There are sentences I can't understand, but overall I can still quite enjoy the book. I also tried reading Oyasumi punpun but sometimes the casual Japanese just kills me. Ofc I would like to read more, but time is still a problem, as I said above. If only I could somehow find a way to reduce the time needed to do anki without losing the quality of "word understanding".

Jaxon Williams
Jaxon Williams

夏目漱石's こころ
I read that book in English, it's alright. I felt like the translation fits the book in a way even.

Here, have my meme picture I created for /lit/.

Jeremiah Johnson
Jeremiah Johnson

Wait, Kokoro is easy enough a per-N2 fagboy can pass it?

Ayden King
Ayden King

こころではなくて
こゝろだとおもうよ

William Sanchez
William Sanchez

Don't believe anons!

Core2k is the hardest part, because it comprises about 1000 kanjis in 2000 words (2:1 proportion).
Core 6k adds 500~600 kanjis in 4000 words. (between 6:1 and 8:1)
Core 10k adds the remaining 600 for the joyo kanji group with another 4000 words.

So, after you're past the Core2k, kanji learning is way more sparse, although you have to be prepared for the ever-growing number of card reviews.

Jace Nelson
Jace Nelson

I finally did it. Are you proud of me? This after 1 year of non-serious studying so I'm surprised I got what I did

Aiden White
Aiden White

Well I don't think 厭世 can be as easy as 行く. The point is, words can get more abstract. A word can have multiple meanings, nuances and the likes, and, most of the times 1:1 translation won't really cut it. You have to dig deeper than that.

David Richardson
David Richardson

what a coincidence my names matthew user too

Jordan Fisher
Jordan Fisher

Nice work user, I'm proud of you for reaching such a level through your own discipline.

Jonathan Ross
Jonathan Ross

How about seeing it yourself?

Owen Morales
Owen Morales

Which makes me think: how long does it take to finally bring the review numbers DOWN?

Can any user who completed the Core10k report in? I believe the 500th day is the most cumbersome day, and after that there is a decline in reviews. But how fast?

Jaxon Ortiz
Jaxon Ortiz

Yeah, I'm reading it now.
http://www.aozora.gr.jp/cards/000148/files/773_14560.html

Nice and easy, much easier to grasp than fucking 幼女戦記, that damn sentence structure is a pain in the ass in it.

William Adams
William Adams

DJT Discord channel.
https://discord.gg/010y85EcrJf0N8x9b

Carson Clark
Carson Clark

I'm pretty sure when someone asked about a discord recently they got told not to fucking bother?

Fuck off with that crap

Matthew Stewart
Matthew Stewart

This is much easier than Flyable Heart, the heck?

Did you guys troll us newbies all along by saying VNs are easier than books?

Lincoln Murphy
Lincoln Murphy

Go away autist.

Lincoln Foster
Lincoln Foster

Someone please spoonfeed me on what the speech bubble with the tackle is supposed to mean. Best I can come up with is "Doing a simple tackle the regular way didn't even cross my mind"

I don't even know whose tackle she's talking about

Carson Diaz
Carson Diaz

Help me understand:

終わるせろんだ

All I can find in DoJG is させる, but I don't think that's it.

Jonathan Diaz
Jonathan Diaz

"Doing a simple tackle the regular way didn't even cross my mind"

lol

Nicholas Gutierrez
Nicholas Gutierrez

終わるせろんだ

Fuck this keyboard

終わるせるんだ***

Josiah Cox
Josiah Cox

Don't you mean 終わらせるんだ?

Evan Wright
Evan Wright

lol

Translation:
I don't know either

Isaiah James
Isaiah James

Don't think a simple tackle will always work against me

Jackson Bailey
Jackson Bailey

No, definitely 終わる. You think it's a typo?

Nathaniel Nguyen
Nathaniel Nguyen

Nice hook. I'll bite.

Or rather, here's a line, you use your brain and bite it.
Read what 通用 actually means.
https://kotobank.jp/word/通用-570668
Then apply basic logic and realize meaning 1 applies in this case.

Ryan Thompson
Ryan Thompson

Likely.

Ryan Butler
Ryan Butler

Wow, I never noticed that either.

Adam James
Adam James

It will never happen as long as you're adding cards.
With 80-85% success rate, your daily reps will always be about 10 times your new cards per day, unless you fuck with intervals.

Aaron Jones
Aaron Jones

おめでとうございます!
^_^

Asher Ortiz
Asher Ortiz

Thanks. I guess I was to dumb to figure out the suffice-ish nuance of the word. Can't even explain it now that I do (?)

Thanks as well, although the guy you replied to is someone else I appreciate your non spoonfeeding way of helping

Colton Sanders
Colton Sanders

Thanks as well, although the guy you replied to is someone else I appreciate your non spoonfeeding way of helping

Yes, I believe that answer you'll realize yourself will stick with you better.

Thomas Bell
Thomas Bell

Nice to see fellow UoDJT grads

Jeremiah Miller
Jeremiah Miller

forgot pic

David White
David White

It's bullshit. The last 4K of Core are easy as fuck.

Alexander Ross
Alexander Ross

Here's my recommendation of a Japanese let's player to you, friends.
https://www.youtube.com/user/yottinokoya

The guy has amazingly smooth voice and plays mostly Western games, so it's interesting to hear his perspective.

David Lee
David Lee

Sorry for the random question but how long does the J-cat test take to do?

Christopher Howard
Christopher Howard

What is this J-cat test? Is there any special requirement for taking the test? Can anyone take it?

David Anderson
David Anderson

Why would I want to watch someone play western games? Terrible recommendation.

Lincoln Gray
Lincoln Gray

I didn't really take note of the time because the test is full screen all the way but I think it should be around 30-60 minutes depending on how good or bad you are. Listening comprehension is the one that takes up the most time because the options to the multiple choice questions are given as part of the recording taking up and extra minute per question.

Aiden Morgan
Aiden Morgan

Fair enough

Charles Martinez
Charles Martinez

Just google it mate.

Jaxson Collins
Jaxson Collins

Visual association.

Adam Rodriguez
Adam Rodriguez

69% correct

one of those days

Asher Taylor
Asher Taylor

Here's just the Core 6k-10k part of my Core deck

I get around 20 cards a day, and it's been like that for quite a while, even though I added the last card 20 months ago

Josiah Anderson
Josiah Anderson

その気持ちは最悪ですね

Samuel Kelly
Samuel Kelly

1 year view of the same deck

Levi Martin
Levi Martin

Yeah, you just want to punch someone, don't you?

Connor Hill
Connor Hill

Anyone else feel like nofap (not masturbating) helps with retention?

Elijah Bailey
Elijah Bailey

They can't read or listen particularly well either. It's not the same situation.

Brayden Gomez
Brayden Gomez

took j-cat ~10 months ago
was planning on doing it again in a year
only read 2½ VNs since then
dropped anki soon after the test too
I should probably do some learning again and try the test and then kill myself when I get a lower score than last year

Isaac Martinez
Isaac Martinez

I'm pretty sure it's like 2 hours when I've taken it dude.

Justin Cooper
Justin Cooper

No, but masturbating while doing anki certainly does.

Elijah Roberts
Elijah Roberts

What is /djt/ drinking right now?

Blake Green
Blake Green

Whenever I nofap I'm just horny all the time and can't think of anything other than porn and jizzing

Needless to say it's not the most helpful thing for productivity

Juan Hughes
Juan Hughes

Thanks, user. So it never gets past daily ~200?

I used to press the "Easy" button all the time when I got the answer, so I'm still undergoing a process of relearning some prematurely matured cards. In two months of re-addressing the way I mark cards, my daily reviews rocketed from 90 to 150, so I was worried it would never stop and I'd be making 400 reviews a day by the end of it.

Austin Gutierrez
Austin Gutierrez

精液

Henry Watson
Henry Watson

"s-budget" coffee

im addicted

Bentley Bennett
Bentley Bennett

Cowfeeee

Samuel Martin
Samuel Martin

Gureen teee

Kayden Evans
Kayden Evans

I do nofap about 4 times daily and I have great retention

Colton Stewart
Colton Stewart

No, I do most of my reading in sadpanda. Everyday before sleeping, for the sake of learning Japanese.

Henry Adams
Henry Adams

Man, I just had my worst skype lesson ever. We started on chapter 3 in tobira where the first exercise is teaching you to use popjisyo.com, which is basically the same as rikai-kun for chrome. Except the site we chose had the text in an image, so the text couldn't be parsed and he had me look up each word I didn't know in my dictionary.

I felt retarded as fuck because it took forever for a few sentences and I was so preoccupied with looking up definitions that I didn't actually pay attention to the reading that I didn't get the information I needed out of it. Then he suggested that tobira may be too hard for me, even though I already went through the rest of chapter 3 on my own in advance and didn't find it hard.

Owen Lewis
Owen Lewis

素晴らしい話だな、兄貴

Angel White
Angel White

Why are you not telling this to your tutor instead?

Nathaniel Jenkins
Nathaniel Jenkins

I did. But he insisted that not being able to understand it means that tobira is probably too difficult for me. It was my fault for not preparing this section in advance. I felt fucking retarded for the entire lesson and wanted to kill myself the entire time.

Sebastian Fisher
Sebastian Fisher

If you have to prepare it in advance then it IS too difficult dude. Swallow your pride.

Noah Bennett
Noah Bennett

tobira
tutor
Replace this reddit shit with compelling content.

Evan Gray
Evan Gray

Your fault for paying a tutor and expecting them to know anything about language learning

Xavier Collins
Xavier Collins

奇数
those strange numbers
幾何学
WHAT study?
推力
I guess it's a force or something
偶数
I just accidentally a number
演算
I'll just act like I can count and hope no one notices
Japanese really can't into science, right?

Levi Roberts
Levi Roberts

What the fuck?

Joseph Sullivan
Joseph Sullivan

You might want to think about some of those a bit more

Sebastian Moore
Sebastian Moore

If you can't read this, you don't know Japanese.

Sebastian Jenkins
Sebastian Jenkins

Don't worry user, I found your post funny

Parker Kelly
Parker Kelly


のち vs. あと

Is there a significant difference or are they interchangable?

Carter Turner
Carter Turner

Tobira
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5IPArDxO40

Kayden Cox
Kayden Cox

only get about 50% right everyday
others here think 70% is bad

I don't understand, should I be concerned?
Am I doing something wrong or am I just to hard on myself?
I mean I hit again for every mistake how little it may be, I'm not like "close enough" and hit good if I didn't do it right.

I don't think 20new cards per day are too much either.

Noah Hughes
Noah Hughes

Is the second entry in the 教本 section of CoR the best RTK deck?

Landon Gray
Landon Gray

Here is your daily listening practice video DJT!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsKX49JAuDQ

Jaxson Morgan
Jaxson Morgan

50% is pretty bad

You might not think 20 new cards a day is too much, but your stats seem to think otherwise

Maybe it'll naturally get better if you just leave it, but it might be a better idea to adjust your strategy

You could do radical or kanji study for mnemonics, you could write down vocab, read or create sentences that use said vocab, etc

If you're a beginner it could just be because you're unfamiliar with the language though and you shouldn't worry about it too much unless it doesn't seem to get better

Ryan Wood
Ryan Wood

Doing listening practice on a video with hardcoded English subs

Parker Watson
Parker Watson

If I were to start a deck focused on vocabulary pronunciations, do you think it's better to put the kanji on the front and guess the kana, or put the kana on the front and guess the meaning?

Colton Peterson
Colton Peterson

Deck focused on pronunciation
Putting the pronunciation on the front

Only the kanji should be on the front, just guess both

Eli Ward
Eli Ward

2 years
still can't watch anime for pleasure because spend too much time focusing on figuring out the language
My 3x3 is still frozen in 2014. Feels bad.

Josiah Miller
Josiah Miller

Mainly asking out of curiosity (I'm nowhere near a level where I can read moon), how difficult is the original Fate/Stay Night VN to read?

Grayson Robinson
Grayson Robinson

Chuuni so moderately difficult.

Jason Morales
Jason Morales

inb4 everything in the past 2 years has been shit anyway.

Nicholas Mitchell
Nicholas Mitchell

Not that difficult, but it would take a really long time with a slow reading speed.

Bentley Thompson
Bentley Thompson

I mainly meant the 2014 me. I like older anime but the audio quality is so shit that my shitty listening isn't good enough to comfortably watch. Feels bad. Not to mention all the hard subs.

Bentley Collins
Bentley Collins

Check out Ikuharas new anime, Yuri Kuma Arashi, it's fantastic.

Austin Reyes
Austin Reyes

Watch stuff with easy as piss Japanese like ご注文はうさぎですか?

Nathan Brown
Nathan Brown

The impression I've gotten from the odd Sup Forums post is that it's like Utena but even less subtle and more "sexy".

Camden Rodriguez
Camden Rodriguez

listening to Sup Forums
Wew. If you like Utena enough to have it in your 3x3 you should watch it and form your own opinion. Personally, I like it more.

Jordan Rogers
Jordan Rogers

Sure, that's just the impression I have not my opinion.
I had enough trouble understanding Utena even with subs. I bet Kuma would be a nightmare to comprehend all the complexities in Japanese. See, here I go, using fear of Japanese to avoid anime.

Jackson Adams
Jackson Adams

It's somewhat above average, but not too hard.
You should be able to read usually recommended plot/scenario games before you try to tackle Nasu's verbose and annoying writing.

Adrian Cruz
Adrian Cruz


なら

I just read the TK lesson on the different "ifs" and am wondering if you guys have any tips to recall when which is used exactly.

Jose Bennett
Jose Bennett

that ending

Caleb Smith
Caleb Smith

Little does she know, I'm gonna masturbate to her tonight.

Nolan Rivera
Nolan Rivera

Read a lot

Oliver Hughes
Oliver Hughes

has anger/hatred ever put you in a zen like state that makes studying seem so relaxing?

I don't even remember why I was mad but studying while angry just felt right.

Elijah Collins
Elijah Collins

Nah, it completely ruins my concentration.

Xavier Bell
Xavier Bell

You crazy nigger

That shit completely destroys my ability to do anything

Especially when doing anki

Ian Powell
Ian Powell

Yeah, I know what you mean.

Alexander Peterson
Alexander Peterson

Can someone help me out?
お行?わ??ですよ

Nolan Long
Nolan Long

お行儀わるいですよ

Pro tip-

お行? on Jisho

Ayden Parker
Ayden Parker

Thank you very much!

Austin Rivera
Austin Rivera

download shitty harem anime
understand pretty much everything
mainly get tripped up due to habit of ignoring names
Feels good.

Christian Morales
Christian Morales

Incredible

Henry Wood
Henry Wood

こんにちわボクのちんこが元気でごわす

みんなのはどうだ

Anthony Hall
Anthony Hall

Why is there so many words for the road? There's 通り 道 車道 道路 and I feel I may be missing some.

Ryan Ross
Ryan Ross

A beloved child needs many names.

Thomas Martin
Thomas Martin

thats nothing you should look up how many words there are for penis

Tyler Davis
Tyler Davis

road
high way
roadway
street
lane
avenue

Brody Martin
Brody Martin

Why do we have the words street, road, passage, alley, roadway, highway, etc?

こんにちはでございます。差し支えなければ、貴方のおちんこをお吸いして差し上げませんでしょうか?

Gavin Wright
Gavin Wright

How should i continue /DJT/?

I can read hira/kata and some basic kanji.

Should i read raw manga, play VN'?

Andrew Rogers
Andrew Rogers

That's different, American is an old language so we had time to come up with synonyms, but Japanese stole their language from Chinese somewhere in the middle ages or such.

Gabriel Fisher
Gabriel Fisher

Method 1: read the guide and choose your own path

Method 2: Read Tae Kim, start core2k, download Yotsubato from the CoR and the Yotsubato reading pack from the guide and read that

Anthony Bennett
Anthony Bennett

Read the guide.

Christian Fisher
Christian Fisher

Yotsuba

John Morgan
John Morgan

practice kanji, practice grammar, practice syntax, read the guide.

Honestly stay away from VNs till you have a good grasp of basic sentence structure and a good grasp of vocab.

Hudson Anderson
Hudson Anderson

You will need to at least read a grammar guide first.

Optional but highly recommended - also do RTK and/or Core2K

Cameron Campbell
Cameron Campbell

Is there a version of core6k that doesn't have completely worthless words like 主張、条件、経済 and the thousands of others that you would only ever meet if you started working in a bank or at a government agency in Japan?

Connor Long
Connor Long

All very common, and very easy to. If those are dragging you down you unfortunately can't learn Japanese.

Austin Mitchell
Austin Mitchell

機会ありがたいんですがお断りします 口は汚いから

触ってだけ許されます

ちんことちんこで

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15tUzlriGDI

real answer identify your specific goals and employ specific strategies to meet those goals and use your time effectively on them never dawdling

Evan Campbell
Evan Campbell

I could learn them if i wanted to, but i'm not interested in words i will never use when reading VNs.

Gabriel James
Gabriel James

Is this Kansai-ben?

Jordan Robinson
Jordan Robinson

lmao

Jonathan Stewart
Jonathan Stewart

yah thats kansai bennie chan shes a mystery wrapped in a enigma wrapped in a shit load of ねんs

Jack Carter
Jack Carter

You'll see them all at some point, those are all very common, even in generic VNs

If it bothers you that much mine your own deck

Robert Peterson
Robert Peterson

How do you say "I called home" in this following sentence. "I called home. My older sister was doing her homework."

家の電話をかけました。私のお姉さんは宿題をしていました。

Carter Thompson
Carter Thompson

i dont think 家の電話をかけました means you called home just saying

David Perez
David Perez

Isaac Barnes
Isaac Barnes

That sentence was my guess on how to translate it. I honestly don't know how to say it.

Samuel Ortiz
Samuel Ortiz

i dont know where your confusion lies its "said" as "written"

Robert Miller
Robert Miller

I dont get it

Levi Russell
Levi Russell

え~~なんなんだよその部屋

キモ~イ

Evan James
Evan James

家の電話 is a call home and をかけました means making it. It should have been pretty obvious, to be honest.

Joshua Harris
Joshua Harris

できない

Julian Foster
Julian Foster

Watch out, I'll send my mate Abdul over if you keep posting that. I'm pretty sure he'd cum into that cup and make you drink it.
Just saying.

Jose Myers
Jose Myers

Is that a threat or a challenge?

Austin Reyes
Austin Reyes

Nobody cares about your shit room, you attentionwhore.

Leo Hill
Leo Hill

Man, seeing manga in real life feels weird since I've been reading them on my PC all life long. It looks really cool. I should really buy some sometime, though the prices for full sets are crazy...

Landon Foster
Landon Foster

It's a promise.

Carson Myers
Carson Myers

You can get second-hand sets in almost mint condition on amazon

Leo Bailey
Leo Bailey

Why do you keep posting this?

Gavin Harris
Gavin Harris

How do you manage multiple decks without getting overwhelmed? I've been doing the KD deck for a while now but my circumstances have changed and I don't really have time to learn the kanji before vocab like I originally intended and and I feel like it's only holding me back from reading sooner now. I don't want to just dump the kanji deck now and lose all that hard work though. What number of reps can I expect to do per day if I add no new cards?

Matthew James
Matthew James

because people keep reacting to it

Brody Robinson
Brody Robinson

I get about 70 reviews per day after a month from finishing the deck.

Blake Wilson
Blake Wilson

Should I feel bad that everyone in my genki book has a favorite place to go, favorite things to eat has activies going on in their lives, and having a fulfilling life. I kind of feel bad that that all I really do is just post on Sup Forums a lot, and mostly just study Japanese.

To make this post not entirely about me
先週、何をしましたか。

Daniel Scott
Daniel Scott

plz comment on my super 1337 haxx0r keyboard everyone
i even unplugged it and put it on my stomach just so you'd pay attention to it and tell me what a 1337 haxx0r i am for using it
(well, i didn't unplug it really, i don't actually use it since as you can see in the pictures i spam this place with it's always just sitting on my shelf not connected to anything...)

Grayson Garcia
Grayson Garcia

you replied triggered so mission完了 i guess lol

Elijah Hernandez
Elijah Hernandez

It's always great to see a newfag have a go at ironically shitposting

Jack Gutierrez
Jack Gutierrez

Here is a chart of my reviews after I stopped adding new cards. Not sure how helpful it will be.

Brayden Allen
Brayden Allen

i-it's just irony guys! i swear! i bought this several hundred dollar keyboard just to ironically shitpost, seriously!!!!

Elijah Baker
Elijah Baker

lurk more

Nicholas Murphy
Nicholas Murphy

Does Japanese ever "click" for you?

Like is there ever the point, where you don't sit there trying to figure out what it means, but read a text fluently and only stopping every once in a while, when you don't know a word?

At this point google translate isn't much worse than what I would translate...

Brody Wood
Brody Wood

i-i'll just call him a newfag! there goes his credibility! r-right??

Sebastian Scott
Sebastian Scott

/r9k/

Cooper Moore
Cooper Moore

Don't worry I've got more than one

Elijah Morales
Elijah Morales

yeah when you finish tae kim's guide and look it over a bunch of times it'll click. maybe it clicks earlier for others. who knows

Henry Long
Henry Long

omg so 1337! how can i b this kewl???? pls teach me how to haxx!

David Moore
David Moore

he even browses the gay as fuck keyboard generals

Levi Walker
Levi Walker

What?

Yes, with like SoL and shit

I can read through Ika Musume without stopping once for example, can read through harder shit like prison school smoothly while only having to stop for words every now and then

Sounds like you're just inexperienced and attention whorey, ganbaru!

Adrian Lee
Adrian Lee

Are you really that surprised?

Owen Brown
Owen Brown

It doesn't take long at all, just keep reading.

David Wood
David Wood

Hmm looks like I can expect about 60-80 thanks for the info. Might be a struggle but hopefully since they'll all be mature soon they Wong take too long.

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