Magi

Caleb Long
Caleb Long

305 is out on Sense:
http://reader.sensescans.com/read/magi__labyrinth_of_magic/en/27/305/page/1

306 is out on Gook:
http://www.yuncomics.com/archives/1682534

Arba is best girl.

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James Wilson
James Wilson

Top smug.

Jonathan Perez
Jonathan Perez

What would they need to do to server Al-thamen and Arba's connection to their world? I mean even if they kick Arba out of Hakuei's body she could just go for someone else, same for her followers.

I kinda want to see how she reacted once she realized she was trapped in an alternate dimension/void after Solomon sent her there. She couldn't have taken it well.

Justin Barnes
Justin Barnes

fuckin hate that bitch,simbad must have all planned to banish her from existence
remenber this

Samuel Jenkins
Samuel Jenkins

When is this shit going to end

Luke Gutierrez
Luke Gutierrez

When your mum stops sucking my dick.

Connor Nelson
Connor Nelson

mom jokes

Jordan Bailey
Jordan Bailey

Nah, as long as she stays helping him he has no intention of removing her i imagine, he uses anything and anyone who'll help him. And she's a crazy devote follower of David because he fused with god, so he's using that to his advantage.

Evan Williams
Evan Williams

Magi has the best coloring in the industry

Jose Jackson
Jose Jackson

Here's my final battle guesses.

Aladdin vs David
Alibaba vs Sinbad
Hakuryuu/Kouen vs Arba
Some kind of alliance between Kou, Kina and Balbadd vs the IA
Baba abd Kouen's households vs the Eight Generals

Justin Adams
Justin Adams

This nigga, cant wait to see him talking to himself about MUH FLOW when the good times ends.

Cooper King
Cooper King

I can't believe there are no Haku/Arba hate sex doujins yet.

Juan Nelson
Juan Nelson

I'm calling it now, Magi will end with a Shaman King style ending. Sinbad gains access to the sacred palace without killing Alladin but they convince him not to bind the ruhk to his will. He then spends the rest of his existence guiding humanity, rather than dicking about like the Magi do.

Isaac Fisher
Isaac Fisher

Sounds like complete shit.

Isaiah Lopez
Isaiah Lopez

Fujos are like the only ones drawing Magi doujins anymore. I can count the number of artists who regularly do straight pairs on one hand, and they're either Fishfags or Morfags.

Chase Hill
Chase Hill

Around Jews, you lose.

Jaxson Jenkins
Jaxson Jenkins

His fall from grace will be a long and hard one; and I shall laugh when he hits the ground.

Levi Harris
Levi Harris

But he should understand well that she can not be trust. Arba is Illah's fanatic follower, but she also harbor an immense hatred for David ever since Alma Torran. For all we know, she could see David possessing Illah as the most blasphemous act and intend to kill both him and Sinbad, but since she still isn't their opponent, she's secretly preparing her plan in the dark, just like the last time in Alma Torran when she rebels against Solomon.

Oliver Flores
Oliver Flores

Nah, it will be Aladdin+Solomon+the world vs David. He is too based to be challenge by any individual.

James Foster
James Foster

But Sinbad isn't a mothercon, noway they can convince him like those nigga did with Hao.

Bentley Baker
Bentley Baker

Ohtaka’s Backstage vol.305

“This week, we’re continuing the event from two years ago.

Magi is a manga where the characters grow older, and so, I worry about the changes in their outward appearance as I draw them. Alibaba was ‘dead’ for a while and didn’t change much. As for Aladdin and Hakuryuu, I was thinking whether they’ll grow to resemble their relatives, and when I drew them for real they turned out different than I expected. They resemble them, but their personalities are different, and so their facial expressions.

The Sinbad anime is still airing, and I hope you’re enjoying it.”

Grayson Sullivan
Grayson Sullivan

Whose waiting for a classic Alibaba face once he actually meets with Aladdin again? I can almost expect Haku to be smug about being taller than Alibaba,too, you know, after the whole "Sorry for killing you" thing.

Luke Rodriguez
Luke Rodriguez

Yes, he is. Did you read spinoff

Parker White
Parker White

Fish checks up on Alibaba when he's sleeping
That's so cute. I expected nothing less of best girl.

Angel Russell
Angel Russell

I wonder if Sinbad has the same type of ego that Gilgamesh has.

Ryder Powell
Ryder Powell

David is ONE with Illah, he's not simply possessing him if she goes against David, it would be the same as going against her own god. Her devotion to Sinbad is most likely real.

Nathan Rogers
Nathan Rogers

Sinbad doesn't have the mind of a jobber.

Connor Morgan
Connor Morgan

Nah, Haku will brood and beg for forgiveness like a bitch. If he acts smug or like it was no big deal, he'll honestly have wasted all the character development he got so far.

Julian Brown
Julian Brown

Sinbad isn't the type to hold back against anybody. He belives in his own vision a little too much though.

Lucas Carter
Lucas Carter

She can try to defuse them and destroy David's consciousness.

Ryan Perry
Ryan Perry

Don't bring your buzzword bullshit into this thread faggot.

Noah Young
Noah Young

True, but with all the stuff he's seen and done over his years alive just like Gil that ego is well founded especially when during almost his entire life he's been told how special and awesome he is and like Gil the sole person to keep them humbled died long before they did. That princess who shit talked Sinbad's ideals would probably be completely disappointed if she were alive and saw that she was 100 percent right about him.

Bentley Reyes
Bentley Reyes

Do you think Arba ever chose someone to be her husband, gave birth to a daughter, transfered over her consciousness then fucked her husband again in her daughter's body before killing him and choosing a new husband?

Benjamin Sanchez
Benjamin Sanchez

I can's see any reason he should ask for forgiveness. Who must he ask for forgiveness anyway? Definitely not Alibaba, who is selfish little bastard who loves to mess up others' business, nor Kouen, who is a warmongering maniact who wants to kill him.

Jaxon Gomez
Jaxon Gomez

And go again her absolute god in the process? Aside from possibly being capable of fucking that up, trying to remove something from him would be acting out the way Solomon did when he forcibly removed it's Rukh and shared it with the world.

She'd just be doing something akin to what she hated the most. Besides, since they're now one being, doing that would be a direct act against it. She's a mindless devote, she didn't give a fuck that it was going to rule their fates, or destroy everything otherwise, so she won't do anything against David having fused with it.

Jordan Cruz
Jordan Cruz

Holy shit. It's better than DBS

Adam Baker
Adam Baker

She can't be dissapointed if he just proved her right.

Who's to say he's not directly responsible for his own kingdom's downfall anyway?

Charles Foster
Charles Foster

One difference. King Pikachu never lost hard like Sinbad probably would in the spin-off. I bet he death of Seredin and his other comrades taught him something about being humble.

Daniel Perez
Daniel Perez

He ASSUMED that was his intention, while Alibaba simply wanted to remind him of what he cared for so he could see a better solution to the problem, and not just march into his land and kill thousands just to free the country.

He realized this later, and even contemplated suicide, even if briefly. He's a little spoiled shit. The best part was him getting mad at Aladin for fighting back against Judal and sending him forever into space, and getting sad for it, Aladin even went as far to say sorry, meanwhile he laughed at having killed Alibaba, only to feel bad about it later.

He's anything but right.

Tyler Hall
Tyler Hall

The thing is, David forcibly possessed Illah for his selfish reason and made it something completely different than the original Illah. If Arba were to separate them, she merely restores to glory of her god and banish the usurper. I mean, would you worship Satan if he possesses God?

Lincoln Anderson
Lincoln Anderson

Being humble
"I am literally the chosen one and can't be wrong"

He didn't learn jack shit. Aladin had to talk smack to him and hurt his feeling because he was right. He's just an arrogant bitch now. His intention may not be inherently bad, but the way he's going about it is just repeating the same mistakes from the past, which will make everything go to shit once more.

Liam Turner
Liam Turner

Maybe he isn't right, but neither anyone else. There's no one who have the "right" to forgive him.

Grayson James
Grayson James

To be fair, he has David to back him up now. He literally the chosen one.

Jaxson Williams
Jaxson Williams

This arc is dumb because Sinbad has already achieved world peace through the miracles of consumer capitalism and globalism.

He doesn't need to do anymore.

I wish magi had had a communism arc and done more with the al-thamen = learned elders of zion themes from early on.

Jayden Brown
Jayden Brown

Even if he doesn't ask for forgiveness, he'll most likely go "yeah... sorry" at minimum. I honestly want to see Alibaba a little pissed off, but he's way too pure so i don't know.

Lincoln Roberts
Lincoln Roberts

You're retarded

Connor Sullivan
Connor Sullivan

Like this?

Jaxon Murphy
Jaxon Murphy

What if the whole "loved by the world" business, isn't just David's influence to make Sinbad his pawn from Birth? Both magi and mogamett sensed his birth due to the influx of Rukh being driven towards him, so he's clearly special, but i feel like his entire life is being driven by David's influence.

Sinbad wants to force his will of what's right by changing Solomon's will
TFW he finds out he was the one having his fate decided by David his entire life

Alexander Bell
Alexander Bell

What moments are you guys looking forward to being animated?

Dylan Barnes
Dylan Barnes

Yeah something like that. Both are pretty edgy too, so it works.

Luis Barnes
Luis Barnes

Having one's entire fate driven by a god
user, that's the very definition of a chosen one.

Benjamin Clark
Benjamin Clark

Now that i think about it you're right. But we both know being David's "shining start" is hardly what you would consider good.

Joseph Hall
Joseph Hall

Fuck off

Owen Anderson
Owen Anderson

Sinbad already achieve a peaceful world now, but it's a democratic world. He wants to create a theocracy with him being its god emperor.

Jace Martin
Jace Martin

He understands things are going towards the path of absolute peace not really since some people are getting fucked over and are being basically forced into assembling to him and not being able to be independent.

What he wants for real now, is to change Solomon's will, most likely making it impossible for certain bad thoughts from forming, or stuff from happening, which is akin to brainwashing, which is why Aladin is against it, since he's trying to enforce his own vision upon the world, and take away free will.

Christian Harris
Christian Harris

Belial.

Alexander Morales
Alexander Morales

God is above and beyond good and evil, you see. We can't use human morals to judge a god, otherwise people would say the Abrahamic God is a genocidal maniac.

Jonathan Phillips
Jonathan Phillips

Wouldn't that just server hers? Or is she the one opening the bridge for everyone else to form their "thoughts" on their world?

Chase Green
Chase Green

I honestly want to see Alibaba a little pissed off
Good luck with that. Getting fucking killed isn't enough to piss him off and getting screwed over by the man he idolized since he was a child is no sweat off his ahoge. He'll probably pat Haku on the shoulder and tell him he's sorry that he had to go through so much.

But I really want to see Alibaba sock him one before that.

Matthew Murphy
Matthew Murphy

Said god was also dying, he was hardly absolute. The whole theme is that they fought against god for free will, and succeeded, until Arba tried to fuck everything up.

Logan Green
Logan Green

He probably will, and when he's on the ground he'll most likely extend his hand towards him and help him up and then they'll go on their way helping each other.

Lucas Carter
Lucas Carter

The problem with the free will that Solomon wanted is that not everyone wants to be "free" in that way. Solomon wanted everyone to be free of Illah's will but by doing so, he's denying those people that were believers and wanted to continue that system. So they started shit up to reclaim what they wanted.

Should have chosen something like the matrix. Those that want to continue living under the machines in paradise, let them. Those that want to go out, give them that choice too.

James Hernandez
James Hernandez

Said god
I'm talking about David.

Noah Sullivan
Noah Sullivan

In a way, doing that is also giving then free will, since they choose to be guided by destiny. They only managed to rebel BECAUSE Solomon gave then free will.

Also Arba was a nutcase. If EVERYONE isn't following her god's will, then it's not a correct world.

William Jackson
William Jackson

It wasn't just Arba, everybody immediately got pissed off at Solomon because as they saw it, he just replaced David and fucked them over more than David because Humans weren't the sole users of magic anymore, Sheba's breakdown along with Arba's manipulations made it even easier to paint her and Solomon as David 2.0. Through to be fair to Solomon, he didn't have the chance to debate with his comrades, he had to do it now or the world would of been fucked, it's just a shame that he forgot that human self preservation can very easily trump the belief in your comrades, your friends, your love and even yourself. I guess you could actually call that arrogance in a sense.

Liam Bell
Liam Bell

It'd be cool if Alibaba has secretly been getting more and more pissed off as the time goes by, but keeps it bottled up because he knows he's a source of morale for Kou, and he just flips and takes all his agression out on Hakuryuu when he sees him.

Jaxson Rodriguez
Jaxson Rodriguez

Couldn't he have just told everyone after the fact that the world would have ended if he hadn't done anything? Although like you said they would most likely not want to hear it.

Xavier Long
Xavier Long

he didn't have the chance to debate with his comrades, he had to do it now or the world would of been fucked
How so? He decide it on a whim. It's not like if he didn't immediately take Illah's power, the world will be doomed, he could go back and talk with his comrades to read a mutual agreement, but didn't because he believed his own decision was enough, even after seeing Arba's hard protesting.

Parker Anderson
Parker Anderson

Haku alredy suffers a lot of mind torture after he fucked up.

Remember his brother's smile when he healed both his legs and missing arm? He knew he was fucking him up by being kind before his death. Doesn't have to be physical.

Ayden Martinez
Ayden Martinez

Well Aladin did tell everyone that he doesn't know if Solomon was right or not, or if he was evil or benevolent, and he's right. His abrupt decision may not have been the best one long term.

I still prefer free will myself, if i knew i was set for a destiny which i couldn't fight i'd be angry.

The problem i'm thinking of now is, didn't Ugo stated the world needed a king? Which would be decided with the metal vessels. In a way, Sinbad would be allowed to change the will in that case correct? If he ends up winning that is. Also if Aladin doesn't wish for Solomon's will to be overwriten by Sinbad because it would be the same as enforcing his own vision upon the world, but isn't that what Solomon's will is doing? Even if it is free will, it was still something that happened because Solomon wished for it.

Although i guess you could argue that i it wasn't for that will the current wouldn't wouldn't exist.

Samuel Gutierrez
Samuel Gutierrez

Fuck meant to reply with

Julian Lopez
Julian Lopez

In a way, doing that is also giving then free will, since they choose to be guided by destiny.
Exactly. It's like that old "choosing to not choose is still a choice" thing. Choosing to not be free is a choice made out of free will.

They only managed to rebel BECAUSE Solomon gave then free will.
By cutting off the path to what they wanted and that's what I'm pointing out. Which is why someone should have also opened the possibility of letting them continue with the old system while also giving them the choice to follow the new system.

It's why I mentioned the matrix. The machines had to first be convinced to giving people that choice but once that's done, people had the possibility of going back to their utopia or continuing to live in the real world.

Alexander Mitchell
Alexander Mitchell

Maybe a punch and then heartarming smile from Baba is just what he needs to be fully healed.

Austin Jones
Austin Jones

But the problem with what Sinbad is proposing is that he thinks his will should be held above all others. He doesn't seem to understand that people are fundamentally different from each other because of the different regions and cultures they grew up in. Forcing one individual will on the world is the exact opposite effect from what Solomon wanted, but it will lead to the same result in the end: Discontent amongst the people, and eventual rebellion.

Josiah Morris
Josiah Morris

Bump.

Jordan Brown
Jordan Brown

BEST GIRL

Jeremiah Nelson
Jeremiah Nelson

Thread is ded as fuck. Time to give it the old IV drip.

David Sanders
David Sanders

rollan

Michael Ross
Michael Ross

I got fish last time... Can I roll her again?

Joseph Green
Joseph Green

Close but no dice.

Josiah Cruz
Josiah Cruz

Don't worry, user, I'll roll her for you.

Jonathan Harris
Jonathan Harris

Rolling for fish

Carter Bennett
Carter Bennett

Fish GET

Jack Murphy
Jack Murphy

FISH.

Nicholas Edwards
Nicholas Edwards

This is why I love Sinbad. Just admits it like that, no shame at all. Completely self assured.

Samuel Russell
Samuel Russell

him being its god emperor.

Would you worship Sinbad?

Jason Powell
Jason Powell

Is Aladdin going to end up with anyone? Isn't he suppose to end up with a princess?

Hudson Rivera
Hudson Rivera

Aladdin a pure.

Luis Jackson
Luis Jackson

Marrying a princess is practically obligatory for main characters in 1001 Nights. There are even versions where Ali Baba marries a princess.

Jonathan Rivera
Jonathan Rivera

But Alibaba already has the slave/princess waifu combo. Aladdin kinda needs a waifu.

Blake Rivera
Blake Rivera

i actually assumed hakuei was going to be magi's version of badroulbadour when i first picked up the series. guess i was wrong.

Justin Lopez
Justin Lopez

I thought Hakuei would do more.

Logan Lewis
Logan Lewis

It's literally impossible to roll a 9 on these. I don't know why fish is even listed.

Jace Mitchell
Jace Mitchell

best boy

Austin Foster
Austin Foster

Sounds like a spoiled child to me.

Jace Cook
Jace Cook

Fishget?

Evan Peterson
Evan Peterson

spoiled child
dirt poor
dad died
sin worked himself at manual labor
mom got sick and died

Very spoiled, yah. Arrogance =/= spoiled.

Adrian Green
Adrian Green

How did Sup Forums react when Haku killed baba? I wasn't around for the shit storm.

Jose King
Jose King

I wanted more of this, fuck this story kind of went to shit.

Juan Rodriguez
Juan Rodriguez

There is always Judar for him.

Aiden Martin
Aiden Martin

It was set up to follow this route from the start though. The whole Solomon's wisdom and Sinbad's half fallen soul was already setting up to it.

I personally find it pretty fun to follow. But if it was just a normal adventure series it could be entertaining too, assuming they could keep it interesting.

Charles Cruz
Charles Cruz

If at first you don't succeed try 5 more times and it will work.

Luke Williams
Luke Williams

Fuck off this isn't happening. Arba will barbecue those kids.

Matthew Torres
Matthew Torres

The last chapter i read was when alibaba returned to his nation just to see it different. Where am I?

Josiah Reyes
Josiah Reyes

What kind of logic is this

did aladin just pulled remember the 6 gorillions? Is he trying to outjew sinbad?

what

Leo Williams
Leo Williams

What's the fifth attempt?

Levi Myers
Levi Myers

Nah she'll be dead by the time this happens.

Levi Martinez
Levi Martinez

twins count as 2

Ian Roberts
Ian Roberts

Sinbad tries to argue that his mistakes and the problems that have happened in his life only happened because DESTINY and do not reflect on his ability to be a flawless superflowking, while Aladdin says that he's actually just human and wrong sometimes.

Elijah Clark
Elijah Clark

But none of what Sinbad mentioned was his fault and sinbad can't mean that as it would mean all he accomplished meant nothing as it wasn't actually him

Noah Ortiz
Noah Ortiz

Mor is the cutest.

Cameron Kelly
Cameron Kelly

literally 1/10

Angel Campbell
Angel Campbell

In Sinbad's mind, it was his fault because he didn't do X or wasn't strong enough.

Sinbad thinks everything good can be attributed to him and everything bad can be attributed to "destiny"

Robert James
Robert James

Let's see

Sebastian Cooper
Sebastian Cooper

once again, i created that shit and as such i demand fish

Ayden Morgan
Ayden Morgan

who is 4?

Dominic Gonzalez
Dominic Gonzalez

her fucking face here

Sebastian Russell
Sebastian Russell

Isn't it the mage girl who works for Sinbad? The one who trained Aladdin and was also Mogamett's adoptive daughter?

Hunter Lopez
Hunter Lopez

I wish David would stop being such a puss and just rip the will from him by foce already
Oh well, it's god's will, so whatever

Luis Wilson
Luis Wilson

Alibaba doesn't even care about Haku.

Zachary Lee
Zachary Lee

Noting at all.

Oliver Cox
Oliver Cox

Isn't it just simply a narcissist person?

Ian Powell
Ian Powell

He is literally the reincarnation of God and has been guided by destiny since he was born. He's been spoiled rotten his entire life.

Benjamin Adams
Benjamin Adams

Aladdin needs to become strong enough to take down Sinband and Arba.

This is fucking bullshit. Oh yeah and his two side buddies, Alibaba and Haku.

Austin Ross
Austin Ross

What are you talking about?

Justin Wilson
Justin Wilson

Noting

Anthony Richardson
Anthony Richardson

If I watched the anime, should I skip to whatever it covers or read from the start?

Cooper Anderson
Cooper Anderson

So is there any sub for Sinbad anime?

Zachary Russell
Zachary Russell

glubglub.

Lincoln Johnson
Lincoln Johnson

FATE CANNOT SHACKLE ME AHAHAHAHAH

Daniel Jones
Daniel Jones

But he is a peasant, not a princess.

Nathaniel Rogers
Nathaniel Rogers

when is the new episode of the animu released? been waiting for almost 5 hours

Nathan Cruz
Nathan Cruz

Narcissism probably does have something to do with his desire for absolute power. Sure, being able to see the flow of destiny is a big deal, but by no means does that give him the right to be the sole arbiter of the entire world. One man dictating other countries' policies and cultures is pure megalomaniacal delusion.

Cooper Moore
Cooper Moore

Serendine fag reporting for duty.

Nolan Wood
Nolan Wood

All the other events like the desire for royal blood, relationships with people, knowing what happens when a KV dies, slavery and so on match up but something must have happened between the slavery and present time to get him to forget the lessons he's already learned. Either that or he's forcing himself to believe it even though he already admitted he's not special.

Ian Hernandez
Ian Hernandez

only 1/3 of manga left
lets focus on economics
no one likes cool battle

Magis def going to end up canceld

Chase Baker
Chase Baker

cancelling the second/third most popular series in the magazine

Josiah Butler
Josiah Butler

replying to a retard

Luis Morales
Luis Morales

What if Seren returns from her grave and kicks Sinbad until he gets David out his system?

Justin Jenkins
Justin Jenkins

Then you'll hear the complaints of thousands of fangirls and fujos complaining that their husbando/OTP is ruined. Him being a playboy is okay but the very thought of Sinbad being seriously romantically involved with with a girl or anyone other than Jafar drives a lot of them crazy.

Since Zepar is on his ring, would be cool if it was supposed to be their engagement ring or something.

Nathan White
Nathan White

Like it is hard to achieve ...

Evan Turner
Evan Turner

Arba will be looking for a new body after Hakuryu kills Hakuei, you know?

Parker Phillips
Parker Phillips

Destiny bullshit has always been the weakest part of Magi. That's not new.

Henry Fisher
Henry Fisher

Sinbad is clearly the one in the wrong here.

Kayden Powell
Kayden Powell

Sinbad
wrong
KEK.

Jonathan Adams
Jonathan Adams

He is.
Your fanboyism doesn't change that.

Jace Thompson
Jace Thompson

There is no one better to rule the world other than Sinbad since magi's are incompetent as shit and Solomon was a faggot who half assed it.

He knows what the actual world is like unlike these kids.

Can't wait till alibaba bullshits his way of knocking sinbad out .

Grayson Long
Grayson Long

Check after Alibaba defeats cassim, since after that some changes happened that differed from the manga, the major one being how Alibaba fell from grace while viewing the girl's past, and the fact that the snake never bit Alibaba and bit Haku instead, and Sinbad never once struggled with the curse placed on him.

Elijah James
Elijah James

Destiny doesn't rule anyone anymore, they're only led to belive that, but otherwise no is bound by destiny anymore.

The main problem is that Sinbad is the reincarnation of David's will, and because of that he may have led a life full of things that happened in his favor, so in a way he' being manipulated from birth. If he'll break out of that train of thought and accepted that he has no right to enforce his will on the world then he will escape that.

Carson Wilson
Carson Wilson

He pretty much rules it already, the problem is he wants said rule to last even after his death, pretty much enforcing his views on the world, and taking away free will.

Colton Mitchell
Colton Mitchell

Fish please.

John Wood
John Wood

He fucked Fish so hard that they had twins, that's why they do count as two.

Ethan Myers
Ethan Myers

What's going on there?

Brayden Mitchell
Brayden Mitchell

Someone's fanart of BabaFish's kids.

Nicholas Cox
Nicholas Cox

Fanart
That's canon, user.

Nolan Reed
Nolan Reed

Stop confusing the others, Jim.

Eli Nguyen
Eli Nguyen

Fujo edition.

Juan Stewart
Juan Stewart

Sinbad can literally see the flow of destiny.

So regardless of whether destiny is guided by someone or not anymore, it's still very clearly a thing that exists.

Henry Wright
Henry Wright

If the destiny is not free will now then how can people fallen into the depravity

Mason Torres
Mason Torres

Falling into depravity simply means not wanting to go with the current flow.

Nathan Thomas
Nathan Thomas

Falling into depravity isn't as horrible as others make it seem, Haku showed that, the problem is that Al-thamen can control those people and use then as weapons, which is why they're dangerous and bad for the world. Without then, falling from grace wouldn't be as major of a problem, unless the person died that way, in which case he wouldn't be able to go to the place most of his family is most likely waiting, and would instead share his existence with a bunch of angry souls.

Isn't the flow just how the world if moving forward? It can be reshaped since Solomon allowed for free will, so it doesn't have to be something that needs to be followed 100%.

Besides even if he is aware of it, he is way to arrogant to think that his wish for the world would be accepted by everyone, would it prevent major bad stuff from happening? Sure, but it would also be gateway of black Rukh for Al-thamen to use. Not to mention would be akin to brainwashing, aka no free will.

Asher Cooper
Asher Cooper

The problem is if the white rukh represent free will then go to another flow is acceptable thus the rukh shouldn'd have change color as well because black rukh is not free will, isn't it?

Sebastian Perry
Sebastian Perry

Isn't solomon was following Ill ilah flow when he decided he will become the new God, then wasn't it Ill Ilah decided that Solomon will become god because the black rukh have no free will, that mean, it all follow the black rukh flow all along
Then is chaging every to white rukh was Ill Illah flow too? Then how come everything is not black rukh
Fuck i'm so confused right now

Ian Hughes
Ian Hughes

I think it's like the others explained, it's actually cursing your current fate, and getting angry at it. What you do after that is up to you though, you can work towards changing it, the thing is, those people are clearly willing to do anything to achieve it, and most likely working out of spite, as shown by Haku's actions, especially when he saw Alibaba as a manipulator who simply wished to get his way across no matter what and then killed him, only to regret it later.

It's basically a unhealthy way of going about your life by being filled with negative emotions, the thing is Al-thamen will most likely use you for their schemes.

Matthew Flores
Matthew Flores

It's Celendine now, apparently.

Jack Diaz
Jack Diaz

Solomon belived he was simply amassed power with no proper will, who simply dedicated how things would go about.

It only became black and tainted after David fused with it i belive, so maybe it allowed destiny to be more flexible and allowed for Solomon to be able to split it's power for the world, since David was clearly trying to take over.

Hunter Butler
Hunter Butler

Why would she? As much as she reprimanded Sinbad for turning on his country to start his own, and calling it selfish, she forgets that her own empire forcefully tore people out of the streets to join the war, made their lives harder than needed with taxes, and tried to grab people from Sinbad's village to join on the basically suicide mission of going inside the dungeon, and after that they lost against Barbarossa which shows how weak they were despite they harsh demands on the people.

Sinbad did only work towards his own ends, and he could have helped drive Barbarossa away as to at least secure friendship with his kingdom, and possibly help then make the life of his fellow villagers and those others who they ruled more easy, but instead he ran off on then all.

Basically both of then fucked up.

Angel Bell
Angel Bell

version without numbers

Senpai pls.

Nicholas Allen
Nicholas Allen

Wait, wasn't because of David keikaku that Solomon can become god?
And i remembered that the rukh is always black, only Ill Illah is originally white but drained slowly by the Alma Toran people that it become black.
Time to reread i guess

Isaac Sanchez
Isaac Sanchez

This is such an retarded argument.

For one, a bloodline doesn't inherently make it so that the king will be a good person, maybe he grew up to be twisted and not caring for those below him, making him a poor king, thus tarnishing his bloodline's name.

It's true that if the past king was good and his proceeding sons/daughters come to rule, they will be most likely trusted much better than a new face, but that doesn't automatically mean it will be good.

Also why can't a king be a good leader? it's true that he has to give off an image of being good and kind and can leave other matters of his own country in the hands of others since he can't handle all of it alone, but to simply want said king to be nothing but a symbol is a little stupid. "Be complacent and just sit there looking good".

Also the fact that the first few kings did not have the luxury of having said "royal" blood. Everyone was on equal terms, so they had to choose someone, or they elected themselves to guide the rest, but otherwise they didn't have anything like a bloodline name.

Her only decent argument was the land one, because hoping to find proper uninhibited land, while possible, is not something that can be chosen on a whim, he needs a proper location that is not dangerous and can set proper trade routes and allow for visitors without having to rely on let's say the dark continent's land like she said, which would be nothing short of idiotic. Him feeling the blow after that one i can get, but why did he flinch at the whole blood argument? Sure, he may not be as trusted as someone from the bloodline of a good king, but he can earn that trust with hard work, which he did in the future.

William Johnson
William Johnson

That's not what she's saying, pal. She's stating a king is symbolic and has a bloodline to legitimate his claim. She's not arguing if the king is good or bad, she acknowledges that with leadership (which doesn't have anything to do with kingship).

Jayden Butler
Jayden Butler

Rolling for best boy (9).

Josiah Perez
Josiah Perez

So what happens if a metal vessel user is killed? Can his vessel be claimed by others without having to face the dungeon again? Or will it return to a dungeon needing to be claimed once again?

Was it ever stated would happen to then in that situation?

Xavier Fisher
Xavier Fisher

Maybe I've missed something. Aren't Arba's goals still the same as Al Thamen's, despite now being unaffiliated? Arba and Sinbad's alliance still doesn't make much sense to me, considering he's still considers Al Thamen his enemy.

Justin Butler
Justin Butler

Do you think there will some sort of revelation in Sinbad's adventure manga that will correlate with something that happens in the main story?

I'm also curious as to what happens with Sinbad's waifu. I kinda don't expect then to suffer any major blows against Barbarossa, so who knows, that is if he follows her proposition to marry into her family.

Juan Brown
Juan Brown

Their symbol will leave the weapon and they will return to the dungeon to be claimed again. However the strange thing is that Sinbad said he can't give Alibaba back Amon because it's illegal for anybody to have metal vessal or a djinn with them now. He made Dungeon hunting and clearing out lawed so I assume most people who couldn't outfight Sinbad surrendered their djinns peacefully. I mean, Fish doesn't have her djinn anymore either.

Ryan Brown
Ryan Brown

He'll rock Alibaba's clothes better than Alibaba.

Sebastian Long
Sebastian Long

It's complicated. Basically they both do indeed have the same goals, with Arba being the major leading force they have and basically their leader. The thing is, Arba only wanted this because she wanted her god to be there in the new world which was created by rejecting him in the previous one.

But, since Sinbad is basically the reincarnation of David's will, and David became on with said god, she views him in much higher light now, serving him is basically serving her own god.

What the fuck happened to Al-thamen anyways? If she has indeed cut ties with then, and is working only for Sinbad, they must have suffered a major moral blow considering the one that led then is now sucking Sinbad's dick. Or maybe they understand it since they all worship the same god, and her working for Sinbad is now what they wish.

Brayden Cooper
Brayden Cooper

I forget, weren't the survivors from the old world sent to the new planet which would be created with Solomon's will? How come nobody outside of the Djins and Aladdin know what happened in the past world? Was it a request from Ugo to never talk about it or pass on the knowledge, or were their memories wiped?

Alexander Harris
Alexander Harris

Huh?

Zachary Lopez
Zachary Lopez

The Toran tribe remembers and still keeps records and historical documents. Every other tribe lost their language and history with the change.

Ethan Richardson
Ethan Richardson

I still prefer free will myself, if i knew i was set for a destiny which i couldn't fight i'd be angry
Only if that were your destiny. Maybe you wouldn't give a shit, because all your choices before and after would still feel like yours, and destiny led you to accept that reasoning and shrug the whole issue off.

Jeremiah Reed
Jeremiah Reed

That depends on how flexible destiny in that case. It seems like destiny in the magi world is a lot more flexible than one would be lead to belive, but if someone overwrites the will they will most likely remove that flexibility, just like how Sinbad wants.

Easton Ross
Easton Ross

user is probably referencing this.

Dylan Davis
Dylan Davis

Lel, that's pretty creepy of Yunan.

Wyatt Morales
Wyatt Morales

I still find it weird that no matter how serious the situation is, there's always that one moment where everyone goes full jokester mode and makes the dumbest/silliest faces ever

Nathan Taylor
Nathan Taylor

I love Magi. No matter what anyone says, I fucking love it with all my heart and soul.

Gabriel Price
Gabriel Price

I don't see anyone else disagreeing, it's just that the story turned much more serious and full of market talk and economics so it turned off some people from it, but i still like it myself. Besides i don't think the whole economics phase will last long considering Aladdin and Morgiana may be coming back.

Jack Russell
Jack Russell

I'm with you user.

Caleb Bailey
Caleb Bailey

Same. I'm just sticking with it until it ends right now. Might drop if Sinbad dickriding gets any worse.

Jordan Harris
Jordan Harris

Personally I'd rather have fantapolitics and economics than the usual string of endless shonen battles. Haven't we got enough of those in other manga?

Nolan Nguyen
Nolan Nguyen

True, some people just don't like the idea of authors moving outside of what was normal for the story, which is a little weird since the story was already full of political talk and schemes.

What do you mean? Sinbad was always the big guy who gets his way no matter what, though any means necessary, the main focus is on him now especially since he basically rules the world now, there's no way he won't get focus in some way.

Anthony Murphy
Anthony Murphy

Yeah but it shouldn't be front and center up all the way up through the end though. I liked the fights and the character interaction, but I sure as hell didn't pick it up for "Alibaba's Capitalistic Adventure".

i like the new stuff, but I wouldn't be able to stand it forever.

Christian Collins
Christian Collins

It's only a phase of the final arc, it won't be all the way though it, we saw some fights in the form of flashbacks, the thing is Arba is just too strong for anyone alone to put up a good fight, maybe Sinbad could but it's no in his interest to stop her, only to use her.

With Morgiana and Aladdin's return you can bet some things will change.

Did Amon get sent back to the dungeon? If so we'll probably get another dungeon diving segment.

Aiden Jenkins
Aiden Jenkins

Dunno, I feel like it isn't it's strong suit. Sure, it is interesting, but it being the focus is really not interesting nor motivating to read, even Shounen try to add things like murder mystery and whatnot, but focusing and going in depth with it starts becoming boring unless you like that. Pic related.

I understand that Sinbad is perfect and godly and perfect and everyone loves him and perfect and scheming mastermind and whatever, and that he is the focus because he is perfect and everybody loves him and he is unique and has unique powers and is perfect. But after hammering that 30 times and making sure you know he is perfect and everyone loves him and he is unique and he can see the flow of Rukh and is David incarnated AND is perfect, and that due to being perfect he is going to succeed due to everyone loving him and him being perfect and unique and seeing the flow of Rukh, it gets annoying to read.

Blake Nelson
Blake Nelson

Preach

Parker Jackson
Parker Jackson

user calm down. Aladdin just talked smack to him about his plan of getting his hands on the wisdom being wrong, and Sinbad got clearly upset about it, he's not perfect, he's just REALLY good at making his plans work, but not all the time.

Plus he's morally grey since he thinks the end justifies the means, and wants to enforce his will on everyone. He's not perfect.

Gavin Ramirez
Gavin Ramirez

Was that arrow really there before translations? I mean it's kinda clear she was the one who did it, does Japan think their readers are retarded?

Alexander Ross
Alexander Ross

It's a joke dude.

Isaiah Kelly
Isaiah Kelly

I don't think he even realizes there's anything to be ashamed about. You can see him thinking long and hard, knowing Aladdin sees something wrong in this line of thinking, and Sinbad's struggling to figure out what that is. But he just can't figure it out, so he's like "Well yeah, what of it?".
It's hilarious.

Adrian Powell
Adrian Powell

I guess i just don't see the humor in it then.

Cameron Cruz
Cameron Cruz

I'm trying to emphasize how I feel every time Sinbad is appears. It's tiring and non-interesting. I understand that he is not perfect, but right now it doesn't feel like there will be any interesting development, just waiting till Sin find an indirect way to obtain Solomon Wisdom and unite with the Rukh and manipulate world while everyone deify him harder than Solomon. My only hope is that Arba/David pull another Alma Torran, grievously wounding Sinbad heavily while killing everyone he cared and reversing everything he did while he watches.

Wyatt Thomas
Wyatt Thomas

You think he would notice what was wrong if he was seeing himself act like that? He seems like the type who wouldn't want to be bound by someone else's rules, so him being completely fine with enforcing his own rules on everyone else is nothing short of hypocrisy.

Even if he himself does not realize it.

Lucas Wilson
Lucas Wilson

I used to have problems with this myself, it often happens in FMA too (like, interrupting a fight to talk about your ex girlfriend's boobs).
But then I read One Piece.
I don't have a problem with this anymore.

Jace Williams
Jace Williams

Same desu. Alibaba's also my favourite character. I don;t get why people shit on him so much,

Jackson Cook
Jackson Cook

You think he would notice what was wrong if he was seeing himself act like that?
Yes, he most likely would.
so him being completely fine with enforcing his own rules on everyone else is nothing short of hypocrisy.
Even if he himself does not realize it
Exactly.
Adventure of Sinbad being released at the exact same time as these final arc chapters gives so much depth to the story. We can enjoy Sinbad's hubris in all its glory.

Christian Miller
Christian Miller

Alibaba is an interesting change from the usual shonen MC. He is neither a complete loser nor a super-talented special snowflake.
Up til now, it feels like he is the "common man" caught amidst a battle of bigger and more powerful forces.

He's also gotta have the worst luck with ladies out of any protagonist, jeez, what is wrong with this guy?

Caleb Clark
Caleb Clark

I'm just afraid that Ohtaka's very real love for her husbando will make her put him above all the other characters at the end of the story.

Benjamin Cox
Benjamin Cox

Will he burst into tears of happiness when fish or Morgi finally confess to him? Poor guy was so thirsty to get some he was always complaining and being grumpy about it.

Jace Edwards
Jace Edwards

Ohtaka wouldn't make him morally ambiguous and clearly upset at Aladdin's implication that even he can be wrong if she didn't intend for him to take a huge fall at some point.

Austin Butler
Austin Butler

Alibaba's very existence soothes my hard boiled celibate heart.
I feel like less of a loser thanks to him.
Thanks, Alibaba.

Noah Roberts
Noah Roberts

She has been showing him in an increasingly bad light. She's not going to turn him into a Gary Stu of that I'm certaing, but being Ohtaka's husbando Sinbad will probably be spared a humiliating defeat. He'll come back to his senses or sacrifice himself heroically at the end.

Chase Sanders
Chase Sanders

But then I read One Piece.

What do you mean by this? I've only read like a dozen chapters, up to where nami and shark crime head guy are.

I dislike the interruptions to the mood. It seems like the author cannot commit to being dramatic, like cowardice.

Jayden Morgan
Jayden Morgan

I think Alibaba is the best character in the whole series. Sue me

Caleb Williams
Caleb Williams

I often see this juxtaposition of comedy and drama in manga and anime.
Like, there's a serious battle scene and suddenly one of the characters does something silly and everyone goes EEEEEEEH?!
Maybe it's a cultural thing.

Luke Powell
Luke Powell

he'll come back to his senses or sacrifice himself heroically at the end
Jafar will kill him, Sinbad will come back to his senses seconds before dying, then Jafar will kill himself and many doujins will be written.

Michael Jenkins
Michael Jenkins

You think his friends/followers will still try to fight for him if he does explain what he wants to do fully?

Carson Diaz
Carson Diaz

Jafar is irrelevant now, didn't you see how he's being dismissed by his husbando at every occasion?

Alexander Hill
Alexander Hill

Mood interruptions are something you get used to. In One Piece it happens so often you end up not minding them anymore. You actually enjoy the fuck out of them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIQJ4i00OoE

Alexander Green
Alexander Green

It's called foreshadowing.
The growing rift between Jafar and Sinbad will lead to disastrous consequences later on.

Depends, I'm still not sure where Magi is on the sliding scale of friendship/idealism versus cynicism. I want to say they'd fight for him anyways, and yet I can see his generals (particularly those who run their own country and have their own people to think about) betray his side at the last minute.

Ayden Perez
Ayden Perez

Ja'far in black, Sinbad in white, this is the last time they spoke as friends.

Benjamin Roberts
Benjamin Roberts

Isn't being a Djinn waiting on a master kind of a shit deal?

Stuck in the ruins of your old home, nothing but lifeless halls and structures
Having to make devious traps and challenges for people who enter, possibly killing many innocents in the process
Most of then probably never even had anyone come to claim then
All to find a possible king that will rule above all

I mean they agreed to Ugo's idea real quick because they understood i was to realize Solomon's ideal world, but even then they looked rather distressed on having to be placed in there for god knows how long, most of then were pretty nice people too, so i imagine that making people die in order to provide a challenge isn't the greatest of feelings.

I wonder if they were awake for the whole time they were in there, or if they go to sleep and wake up once they sense someone has entered their dungeon.

Joseph Garcia
Joseph Garcia

Adventure of Sinbad being released at the exact same time as these final arc chapters gives so much depth to the story. We can enjoy Sinbad's hubris in all its glory.
I think the same. Seeing the lessons he's learned as a kid contrasted with what he is now is pretty nice. Can't wait for the moment his first kingdom dies in SnB since you just know that it'll happen alongside a big reveal in Magi.

Adam Martinez
Adam Martinez

Perhaps his kingdom getting destroyed will be what makes him half fallen?

Adam Williams
Adam Williams

Wait, I thought that was already confirmed? Or maybe I'm now confusing theories with what actually happened. I can remember him saying he absorbed the black rukh of his entire kingdom, similar to what Judar did.

Eli Sullivan
Eli Sullivan

fuck i missed out on a magi thread

Robert Adams
Robert Adams

Cmon FISH

Leo Watson
Leo Watson

yeah

Blake Thompson
Blake Thompson

How long is Sinbad's manga supposed to run for anyway? It's already at least 1/3 of the main story in number of chapters right?

Asher Carter
Asher Carter

I'm guessing it'll run as long as the main story does. Ohtaka will probably make the events in both coincide. When Sinbad finally goes full bad guy in Magi, we'll see how he becomes half fallen in SnB or something like that to explain how he is in Magi.

Adrian Thompson
Adrian Thompson

He should pick better friends.

Cassim a shit.

Wyatt Peterson
Wyatt Peterson

user you know better than i do that he'll end up forgiving his murderer when it was entirely his fault for going full Darth Vader on him.

Alibaba is too pure not to forgive people, even those who shat on him first.

Aaron Lee
Aaron Lee

Both of his friends, Cassim and Hakuryuu, tried to kill him and Cassim betrayed him like three times in a row.

Poor baba.

Lucas Perry
Lucas Perry

Cassim was kinda shitty had a more understandable circumstance as to why he did such things, Haku on the other hand was just acting like a child, and only caring about "muh revenge".

I'm surprised Morgiana didn't deck him in the face at least once after it happened.

Juan James
Juan James

Is there any prediction for the return of the anime?

Adrian Morgan
Adrian Morgan

probs a year after sinbad no bouken

David Clark
David Clark

Do you think the author set it up so that Sinbad's side manga ends when he's taken out of the story of Magi? Because that'd be kinda cool to see Sinbad's start and his end around the same week.

Carter Green
Carter Green

I think it's more likely that we will see some revelation that will coincide with what happens in the main story.

Aaron Kelly
Aaron Kelly

I hope sinbad no bouken ends with Ja'far writing sins final chapter or something. In a david esque style

Blake Fisher
Blake Fisher

I think Aladdin is the only friend Baba has who has never tried to kill him or screw him over at some point. Even Morgiana tried it.

Angel Miller
Angel Miller

That was before they were friends tough.

Joseph Thomas
Joseph Thomas

She still tried to kill him. Even his own household wanted him dead when they first met.

Cooper Miller
Cooper Miller

Dollars to donuts says that Alibaba will meet his friends again via being princess carried by Morgiana like he last time.Even better if she does it in Fanilist form and Alibaba pets and snuggles up her.

Caleb Peterson
Caleb Peterson

mfw i could translate 306 from jap to english but don't

Jose Young
Jose Young

Sure, faggot, I believe you.

Jacob Edwards
Jacob Edwards

sub 1 min

Camden Hughes
Camden Hughes

Is that is, senpai?

Cooper Lee
Cooper Lee

those arba tits

Evan Thomas
Evan Thomas

Nigga, this ain't Sherlock.

Ayden Garcia
Ayden Garcia

that shit would make a sick ending. Either that or the same happening to alibaba but with aladdin writing it. Or even better, the same thing happening but everyones stories into one with Ugo writing it and he titles it 1001 nights

Lucas Lewis
Lucas Lewis

That'd be interesting, since the three most famous characters from 1001 Nights are Aladdin, Alibaba and Sinbad.

Carson Morgan
Carson Morgan

I'm surprised Morgiana didn't deck him in the face at least once after it happened.
Her reaction to Baba's death was very poorly written.

David Lopez
David Lopez

Bump

Blake Morgan
Blake Morgan

I'm a special snowflake so give everything to me
Is he serious? That's literally autism territory.

Daniel Brown
Daniel Brown

Ohtaka is one of the best authors in circulation with the coloring.

Jose Bell
Jose Bell

yeah man her colouring is fucking supreme

Hunter Howard
Hunter Howard

The only thing that bugs me with her coloring is that sometimes characters end up having completely different hair colors from what I expected. E.g. Morgiana having magenta hair instead of black and Hinahoho having blue hair instead of red (his hair screentone used in the manga is usually reserved for red-haired characters).

Luis Cook
Luis Cook

yeah i feel you on that. I always thought hina had red hair and was kinda shocked when i saw it in the anime
I

Parker Lopez
Parker Lopez

Ohtaka can't into screentone coloring.
Pic related, Alibaba's dress thing is freaking black in the manga.

Tyler Sanchez
Tyler Sanchez

For a guy that's been redeemed and all, Hakuryuu sure is ruthless.

Andrew Gonzalez
Andrew Gonzalez

You can't redeem a retard, user.

Joseph Hernandez
Joseph Hernandez

Translate the final page.

Colton Evans
Colton Evans

it's actually cursing your current fate
Actually, it's cursing the fate decided by white rukh, meaning Solomon's will. In other words, saying falling to depravity is bad is no difference to saying defying Solomon's will is bad, and all "good" people with white rukh willing slaves who have no problem living under Solomon's tyranny, which made Al Thamen rebelled in the first place.

Nolan Morales
Nolan Morales

Maybe it is now leaded by some other Sinbad's comrades, like Falan?

Jaxon Sanders
Jaxon Sanders

But he isn't the MC, it's Sinbad.

Connor Reed
Connor Reed

Go away Sinbad, you already have your own spinoff manga to show off in.

Evan Young
Evan Young

What tyranny? White Rukh is literally free will.

Luke Flores
Luke Flores

White Rukh is literally free will
Yeah, a "free will" that was forcibly imposed on people by Solomon without their agreement. Al Thamen didn't try to fight "King Solomon's tyranny" for no reason.

Austin Ward
Austin Ward

if it was free will why would people ruhk turn black? how can you turn against free will

Dylan Gomez
Dylan Gomez

Already said this before but if it wasn't for said free will they wouldn't even be able to fight back against him, Solomon could have wished for a world like Sinbad's and impose his will and remove any trace of rebellion and any chance of people turning bad, instead he gave everyone the chance to choose their own destiny.

It was implied that if he didn't do anything the dying god would have taken the world along with him right there.

Logan Roberts
Logan Roberts

No, it's not. It's Solomon's will.

Jayden Robinson
Jayden Robinson

The protagonist of the prequel and the sequel isn't the same
KEK.

Ayden Clark
Ayden Clark

Man, i thought that Alibaba's dress was Red or Green but nooo Yellow is both White and Black too

Robert Ward
Robert Ward

You're dumb.

Michael Perry
Michael Perry

Which was a will to let everyone decide their own fates.

Jordan Wilson
Jordan Wilson

yeah i hoped it would be green

Benjamin Wilson
Benjamin Wilson

Now that i think about it, what would Young Sinbad think if he saw himself now. Not just the world CEO, but actually be able to see how he's currently acting and scheming.

Jason Cruz
Jason Cruz

14 year old sinbad would probably be disgusted as he hasnt gone through the hardships of losing his friends and countries once

James Gray
James Gray

I thought it would be something like this.

John Miller
John Miller

Babafag
saying anyone dumb
You must be very smart to like a cuck, then.

Lucas Powell
Lucas Powell

/v/

Josiah Gutierrez
Josiah Gutierrez

Literally everything looks good on him.

Jeremiah Turner
Jeremiah Turner

I like the red best. It looks the most cohesive.

Brandon Bailey
Brandon Bailey

Yeah, given his blond hair and gold eyes, red is probably the color that suits him best.

Gabriel Taylor
Gabriel Taylor

Him getting enslaved was his fault. He got too cocky and got buttfucked in a legal tournament. We haven't seen Parthevia get BTFO yet but it's probably his fault too.

Grayson Ortiz
Grayson Ortiz

I thing that young Sinbad would approve of the economics stuff, but he'd definitely try to stop the megalomaniacal plans of his current self.

James Sanchez
James Sanchez

any of them except 8

Robert Watson
Robert Watson

No him becoming a slave was his fault.

Justin Wilson
Justin Wilson

not wanting eternal roman empress loli

Michael Powell
Michael Powell

Eternal

She's dead user

Lincoln Bennett
Lincoln Bennett

She lives on as a loli ghost in Titus.

Luke Allen
Luke Allen

That's a good question. but is black ruhk really that bad? Cassen and Princess girl only died because of their black metal vessels rather than dying from the black ruhk completely and if Haku is any indication, having it isn't demental to your health nor your mental state. It's not some super magical evil juice that makes you edgy, it's you. White and Black Ruhk is all the person and Aladdin finally realized that.

Cameron Robinson
Cameron Robinson

Yeah Aladdin knows it's not as bad as he thought it was, the problem is Al-thamen can use those people for their own gains by creating black genies and such, so it's still a dangerous thing to allow yourself to be consumed by.

Christian Young
Christian Young

So, who are arguably the 10 strongest characters in the series up until this point?

Lucas Parker
Lucas Parker

It's kinda hard to pinpoint, but Arba is clearly at the top, she can use the equivalent of extreme magic likes it's nothing. Sinbad is clearly second place i imagine. The others are all around similar in the power level scale.

I don't know about Alibaba since he now has slowdown mode, but no vessel, so we won't know just how useful his slowdown would be against a strong opponent.

Christopher Richardson
Christopher Richardson

It's not bad without shitters using black rukh to bring an ancient god to their world.

Jacob Barnes
Jacob Barnes

Eh, Baba has always been kind of a scrub anyways.

Christian Johnson
Christian Johnson

Solomon might be able to beat Sinbad.

Elijah Sanchez
Elijah Sanchez

Well he wasn't born special so it's normal, he was growing stronger at a good pace.

Haku only really managed to kill him off because he was willing to let both his legs get chopped off for it, while Baba just wanted to subdue him. If he had the intention of killing Haku i think things would turn out different.

Carson Cooper
Carson Cooper

Solomon

But he's dead user. Do you mean Aladdin? Any of Alma Torran's main trio would probably curbstomp anyone in a 1x1 fight from the current world.

Nicholas Reyes
Nicholas Reyes

That makes me think, at the level he was before being killed, who could Alibaba beat in a fight? I mean, he was obviously stronger than any fodder, but I don't see him being able to keep up with say, any of Sinbad's generals.

Dominic Stewart
Dominic Stewart

Some of her volume covers are really nice.

I wonder who will be on the next one? Baba again?

Henry Long
Henry Long

Pink hair instead of black
She got me again.

Cooper Lopez
Cooper Lopez

My bet is grown-up Aladdin.

Matthew Watson
Matthew Watson

Its almost sickening how BEST Sinbad is

Brandon King
Brandon King

She had such an unfair end

Jeremiah Robinson
Jeremiah Robinson

Best
Throwing his toys out the pram because Aladdin won't give him a free pass for being a special snowflake
Yeah, nah, he's a bitch.

Caleb Hughes
Caleb Hughes

But he's dead user

I know, but I thought we were talking about the strongest characters in general.

Alma Torran's main trio
main trio

Wat

Noah Gray
Noah Gray

at the level he was before being killed, who could Alibaba beat in a fight?
Maybe Kouha, or Fish in an arid climate? His ass is grass if he were to fight her near the sea, though.
And he could probably take out Sinbad's generals or any other household member if he used Extreme Magic.

Robert Baker
Robert Baker

By that i mean Solomon, Sheba and Arba. I guess Ugo was pretty focused on too, but they were the big powerful magicians right?

Charles Cook
Charles Cook

Solomon and Arba would beat anyone in a 1v1, but Ugo and especially Sheba are not that powerful.

David Jackson
David Jackson

Can't help but love the fact that this series is ''95% /biz/ and 5% /pol/ the manga''.

Joseph Robinson
Joseph Robinson

nah i think it's a 35% /biz/ and 55% /pol/ with 10% of battle shounen and maybe some /his/ too

William Turner
William Turner

Well, yours is also fine.

Hunter Russell
Hunter Russell

http://www.yuncomics.com/archives/1682534
It only had any /pol/ during the baldadd and magnostadt arcs.

which is a shame. the /pol/ parts were the best parts.

Landon Cox
Landon Cox

Alive and dead:

1. Solomon
2. Arba
3. Sinbad and David (tie)
4. Aladdin
5. Judar
6. Matal Mogamett
7. Every Magi that was alive during the Alma Torran arc
8. Titus and Scheherazade (tie)
9. Junan
10. Alibaba

Cameron Jenkins
Cameron Jenkins

Alibabas ability puts him above Solomon.

Mason Gutierrez
Mason Gutierrez

implying that Magi's and Metal Vessel users wouldn't crush him despite his speed
implying they don't possess a similar speed level themselves
implying that taking out normal humans means he's unbeatable just because of his superior speed and reaction time

Nicholas Wilson
Nicholas Wilson

Slow down there, while his ability is useful as fuck, we have yet to see him have a proper fight. At least wait until he gets his weapon back.

Introduce new ability
Literally 100 years thinking
Super speed and perceiving movements
Not useful against powerhouses

You're being delusional if you think he's not going to have a major advantage. Metal vessel users were fast, but they weren't mind readers/perceived the world in slow motion.

Jose Carter
Jose Carter

Why does ohtaka make so many red or pink haired characters? Bad enough all the kous look the same, but then the fanalis also have red hair, and also sheba and celendine?

I like black haired Sheba better. It's moe.

Best girl, worst end. RIP, but that's what you get for choosing worst boy.

Christian Jones
Christian Jones

You're being delusional if you think he's not going to have a major advantage

No, it is a massive advantage. Against humans or Fanalis he'd win, because his abilities far outclass him when it comes to close quarters combat.

But when fighting a Metal Vessel user or a Magi who doesn't specialize in those things, he's probably screwed. How could he dodge or survive a Bararaq Saiqa from Sin for example? Even if he's incredibly fast and has an amazing reaction time, that attack still moves at lightning speed while the regular humans Alibaba fought don't compare in any way.

Gabriel Rodriguez
Gabriel Rodriguez

Bad enough all the kous look the same
Are you retarded?

Cooper Wood
Cooper Wood

The worst part is that of every character you mentioned only Celendine and Kouha don't have black-colored hair in the manga.

Jack Reyes
Jack Reyes

Which is why i told the other user to wait for a proper battle to happen to judge it. We don't know if that's the full extent of it.

Noah Collins
Noah Collins

inb4 Hakuryuu forces her to possess him and seals himself
tfw that's why Belial was introduced

Carson Richardson
Carson Richardson

talking shit about Haku on ch306
Oh boy you guys must be feeling so embarrassed after reading the entire chapter.

Juan Anderson
Juan Anderson

Nope.

Blake Taylor
Blake Taylor

It's okay

Aaron Mitchell
Aaron Mitchell

Alibaba is the reflection of the author being tumblrwhale

The nicest guy in the whole series
gets mocked for being a virgin and is rejected by every woman
And no matter what he does, everything ends up bad for him

Evan Reyes
Evan Reyes

That sounds more like /r9k/.

Cooper Cox
Cooper Cox

Are you retarded?

Jaxon Garcia
Jaxon Garcia

Well yes but he's written by a woman and this is clearly done on purpose

Alibaba's suffering even became a meme in these thread

Zachary Foster
Zachary Foster

calling 7

Alexander Wilson
Alexander Wilson

Witnessed.

Jack Martinez
Jack Martinez

Is this your first piece of fiction or something? It's just a classic 101 writing trope. Beat the hero down and make him an underdog in order to garner sympathy and support from the audience. Tumblr and other shit has nothing to do with it, this kind of storytelling has been around for centuries.

Christopher King
Christopher King

except not.its not that he gets beaten by stronger opponents or anything, he gets humiliated in over the top situations by literally everyone over and over to please the sadism of the female audience.

Even when they get him drunk the author makes him wine about women

Josiah Adams
Josiah Adams

not.its not that he gets beaten by stronger opponents or anything, he gets humiliated in over the top situations by literally everyone over and over
That was my point, I wasn't talking about battles. Again, this is nothing new and doesn't pertain to the sex of the audience reading the story. This is a universal writing convention. Give the hero a likeable personality, make the world beat him down, stack the odds against him - hey presto, you got yourself sympathetic underdog who the readers are naturally inclined to root for. I'll reiterate, this has been an established mechanism in fiction for centuries.

Andrew Perez
Andrew Perez

his is a universal writing convention. Give the hero a likeable personality, make the world beat him down, stack the odds against him - hey presto, you got yourself sympathetic underdog who the readers are naturally inclined to root for
This doesn't work when the hero does unheroic things. magi doesn't have highschool setting where the trope could work

The fact that the author is female also supports my claim. I doubt a male author would even make him care or cry when he gets rejected or pursuit women at all, men don't really care about that aspect of a heroic character, its more about the convictions and ideology and if they did go that way they wouldn't portray him as being absolutely pathetic

Even when sinbad was mindbroken in his own comic they didn't make him do humiliating fetishistic shit despite they could have and a good chunk of the audience would probably have loved it

Jayden Miller
Jayden Miller

What do you mean unheroic things? Alibaba isn't a complete goody two-shoes sure, but he's clearly a heroic character based on the heroic things he's done in the past like, like saving Balbadd. And no, the author being female is not a good basis for your claim. Look at Polnareff form JoJo, for example; he cries many times throughout Part 3 - and he tries to chase women and gets humiliated on a regular basis. He's written by a male author and is a nigh-universally beloved character amongst the fandom. Sex has nothing to do with that.

Like Polnareff, Alibaba's hardships are sometimes depicted in a comedic fashion, like the boat chapters or his time in Sindria, The intention there is just to attach the audience to him more, since naturally people enjoy things that make them laugh.

And obviously what Sinbad went through wouldn't be done such a way, those events play an integral role in forming the character we know in the main series, and the most recent English chapter expresses that by making those events a part of his motivation for the goal he has. That's a different issue altogether.

I'm running low on time right now, so this will be my last post for a few hours. If the thread is still up I'll try and reply to your next post.

Samuel Taylor
Samuel Taylor

to please the sadism of the female audience
Yeah, because I'm sure enjoying Alibaba abuse is a female only occupation.
Get your head out of your ass kid, for your own sake.

William Wilson
William Wilson

Is there anyone else who considered the Alma Torran arc to be the best arc in this manga? Might be a shot in the dark here because apparently this arc was disliked by many and I think Shinobu rushed it because of that reason.

Ethan Lewis
Ethan Lewis

What do you mean unheroic things?
Crying over women and being mocked for being a virgin and keep getting mocked in every comic relief situation. He can whine but most of his suffering is caused by external things to him ,its the author mocking him . Again even the posters here agree he gets too much shit.

Alibaba isn't a complete goody two-shoes sure, but he's clearly a heroic character based on the heroic things he's done in the past like, like saving Balbadd. And no, the author being female is not a good basis for your claim.
yes but , i don't know how to put it into words... when you introduce such elements that must be inherent to his conception of thinking then his ideals and way of thinking become tainted. it would be like Batman killing people under certain circumstances.

Look at Polnareff form JoJo, for example; he cries many times throughout Part 3 - and he tries to chase women and gets humiliated on a regular basis. He's written by a male author and is a nigh-universally beloved character amongst the fandom. Sex has nothing to do with that.
jojo is incredibly shallow, all that makes a character be is to be able to fight and be ready to die, the rest of the qualities are purely cosmetic so it isn't much of a deal.

And obviously what Sinbad went through wouldn't be done such a way, his motivation for the goal he has. That's a different issue altogether.
Why? cause he is the blue prince women are supposed to like, he can't be debased like the nicest virgin guy

Any of the other characters would make a better MC desu

anecdotal evidence is not an argument

Caleb Garcia
Caleb Garcia

Am I the only one who thinks that the Magi were the most recommended and weak creatures of the manga?
They have a power not earned with their strength and just block the magic to kill them.

Evan Walker
Evan Walker

Can still kill (just about) every species with their prowess.

Benjamin Moore
Benjamin Moore

Crying about his romantic situation isn't unheroic. It's not exactly heroic either, but these are scenes that are played for laughs and nothing more. What you don't seem to realize is that Alibaba is both a heroic character and a source of comic relief in the series. Maybe you think that way about him because a character like that is not that common to find in fiction. But that's what he is. Him lightening the mood of the manga doesn't equate to him not being heroic.

What are you talking about with the Batman thing? Him killing people is a direct contradiction to his character, it would betray an essential foundation to his characteristics that have been thoroughly established throughout the years. Alibaba having bad luck with women and complaining about it doesn't in any way go against his foundations. It does not oppose his character, or his ideals or his goals. His comedic failings in romance don't get in the way of any of that and have no relevance to his purpose in the story, so you're wrong on that front.

And you haven't read a lot of JJBA if you think it's shallow. There are plenty of relatable characters in that series who readers can connect with, just like in Magi.

Because Sinbad's fuck-ups in his own series have a direct correlation to the character of Sinbad that appears in the main Magi series. Who he is and what he's trying to do are a direct consequence of those fuck-ups. Alibaba's romantic fuck-ups don't yield any influence to his actual motives as a character. The only purpose they serve is to occasionally break up the tension.

And if that's what you think, then fine. But your reasons for believing that are misguided and rather inaccurate. Should every MC be super stoic and serious, and never show any weakness in either a comedic or serious light? He's more fit for the MC role than other primary characters in this series, more so than Aladdin and Hakuryuu, at any rate.

Ryan Brown
Ryan Brown

I only can tell you who is the strongest human.

Joseph Sullivan
Joseph Sullivan

Do Magi count as humans?

Charles Jones
Charles Jones

Death by snu snu

Grayson Carter
Grayson Carter

Strongest Human: Sinbad

Strongest Fanalis: Muu Alexius

Strongest Magi: Solomon

Do Magi count as humans?

Nah, not really.

Jace Wright
Jace Wright

The only furry I know is Mor.

Benjamin King
Benjamin King

None of that responds to anything I wrote

b-but correct me

Read my posts and read your post again

I don't even know what you are trying to do

if you still cry, im going to copypaste my post with your response just to make it clear to you

Liam Green
Liam Green

What are you even talking about now, you retard?

Joseph Hall
Joseph Hall

Your reply doesn't in any way demonstrate nor even argue that what i wrote isn't true

Daniel Taylor
Daniel Taylor

How so?

Jaxson Lopez
Jaxson Lopez

Are they dragons or like the Finalis now?

Parker King
Parker King

Read both posts and then use your brain to formulate a coherent reply

Aiden Ramirez
Aiden Ramirez

Crying over women and being mocked for being a virgin
Wait, you're saying that's for the "sadistic" female fans' enjoyment? I hate to break it to you, but the chapters where that happened are easily the ones that elicited the WORST reactions from women. His entitlement hit too close to home and and it turned a lot of them off from him/his relationship with Morgiana.

Evan Torres
Evan Torres

Are you trying to avoid having to construct an argument? If that's the case, then just don't post.

Dominic Ortiz
Dominic Ortiz


. His entitlement hit too close to home and and it turned a lot of them off from him/his relationship with Morgiana.
Exactly. Women love to make fun of that kind of dude, i mean look at tumblr

KEEK

b-but correct me

Read my posts and read your post again

Austin Torres
Austin Torres

So, you don't have an argument. Fine, then we're done here.

Jace Morris
Jace Morris

What the fuck is even up with this discussion anymore?

Tyler Morales
Tyler Morales

Exactly. Women love to make fun of that kind of dude, i mean look at tumblr
He just told you that women DIDN'T enjoy those scenes.

Robert Nguyen
Robert Nguyen

Keeek

It seems to me you are the one with no arguments

I told you to read the posts yet you didn't and are doing exactyl what i said you would to avoid answering

KEEK

He told me alibaba was a self entitled cunt who got what he desrved

Julian Moore
Julian Moore

I'm sure you're baiting me now. You're acting to stupid not to be.

Parker Jones
Parker Jones

KEEK
What are you doing?

James Adams
James Adams

Exactly. Women love to make fun of that kind of dude, i mean look at tumblr
Totally different. No actual female fans are making fun of Alibaba like that. Sadism implies some degree of enjoyment, like how they reacted when Sinbad was chained up almost naked and mindfucked. But women just hated Alibaba's entitled lying and tantrums so much that they basically chose to pretend none of that ever happened.

Jackson Rivera
Jackson Rivera

You two are just being pathetic now, it's just "HA, you're too pathetic so i won't bother to correct you anymore" until one of you gives up.

It's pretty simple, Alibaba acts like a desperate fuck sometimes, and gets mocked for it, because it makes sense to mock him then, it's not meant to be anything super serious, he even treated the whole "marry fish and get Morg as your Concubine" to be pretty wrong, so he acts desperate but it's usually for comedic effect.

Meanwhile he also is a hero, a underdog hero too, since he wasn't born with special powers, the world didn't notice him coming into the world like Sinbad, and he starts out faily wimpy and weak and grows stronger with time, but otherwise, he's one of the most pure hearted people when it comes to helping others, going as far as to cry over their sadness and misfortune.

Stop this retarded discussion aleady.

KEEK

You're making it hard to take you seriously.

Dylan Roberts
Dylan Roberts

Some faggot talking about Dumblr for some reason.

Benjamin Johnson
Benjamin Johnson

posting best ship

Evan Evans
Evan Evans

Now a personal attack

is it so hard to read both post realize they have nothing to do with each other and formulate an actual reply?

b-but you do it
why don't you do what the post says? If you know you are right then what stopping you?

b-but no you
I can do it at any time ,im just amused

alibaba is comedic relief
all jokes come down to him getting rejected, getting called a virgin and fucking up
He is also psuedo jesus
Even more jesus than Aladdin

Why are you samefagging?

Lincoln Gonzalez
Lincoln Gonzalez

Can you just fuck off?

Luis White
Luis White

Why are you samefagging

But i'm not?

Caleb Wood
Caleb Wood

Portraying Yam as a paedophile
Disgusting.

Jackson Lopez
Jackson Lopez

Um i don't know yet

same arguments
same writing

Landon Davis
Landon Davis

(You)

Juan Barnes
Juan Barnes

O um

Josiah Johnson
Josiah Johnson

What the fuck is this? I think I'd rather have the shipperfags spamming the thread with fanart over whatever the hell this is.

Aaron Miller
Aaron Miller

I'd rather have the shipperfags spamming the thread with fanart
You called?

Jack Gray
Jack Gray

Here's another one for good measure.

Kevin Peterson
Kevin Peterson

O um

Henry Torres
Henry Torres

No

Angel Richardson
Angel Richardson

in case it was for me

Hudson Robinson
Hudson Robinson

k m8

Elijah Brooks
Elijah Brooks

Nice duwang.

Christian Carter
Christian Carter

Pft. pftftfppfpfpt. This guy has never read any book ever. Nigger that is so damn common to humble and antagonize the protag...that's actually the entire point of most stories. Protag is a nice guy, bad shit happens, it's amusing, he eventually pulls through.

Wow. You're illiterate and you're talking shit on dumblr.

they didn't make him do humiliating fetishistic shit

I beg to differ. You would a Broken!Sinbad. He looked like a girl in that arc with his hair down anyway.

I read it in one go because I caught up late. It's said whether you read it chapter a week or all at once makes the difference. For me I loved it. I couldn't stop reading. Alma Torran was way better than babanomics, that is FACT.

Sheba is precious and deserves a better fate.

Fog Troupe > Sindria/Zagan = Alma Torran > Edgebros > every thing else > shit > babanomics

Jaxson Morgan
Jaxson Morgan

Ups

Not an argument

So you concede they didn't make him humiliating stuff like alibaba

Dominic Morales
Dominic Morales

Strongest Fanalis: Muu Alexius

Uhhhh. Isn't that the half-human half-fanalis who has human strength? Nah. Masrur is strongest fanalis...he also has a household vessel, remember.

David is also stronger than Solomon. To the last, it was according to david's keikaku. (a/n: keikaku means plan.)

Bentley Bennett
Bentley Bennett

Alma Torran was way better than babanomics, that is FACT.
Babanomics has Fish. Nothing is better than Fish.

Luke Torres
Luke Torres

Muu is half-human half-fanalis who has full fanalis strength and a Metal Vessel.

Michael Ross
Michael Ross

Pretty sure Aladdin is the rapist there and Yamu doesn't have a choice. C-can you be raped by a shota? Can you imagine having that much PURITY molest you?

No.

Hakuei was plain but Arbakuei is a nymphy little beauty. Why is Arba consistently best girl?

Hunter Phillips
Hunter Phillips

Alibaba already has hax power, with his djinn he will be dangerous as fuck.

Brayden Young
Brayden Young

Fish is worst Kou.

Carson Cox
Carson Cox

That's not how you spell best.

Jaxson Robinson
Jaxson Robinson

I read it in one go because I caught up late. It's said whether you read it chapter a week or all at once makes the difference

I read it once a week and still loved it a lot. I guess the world and the characters in it got me really immersed and that's why I enjoyed it more than I thought it would.

Sheba is precious and deserves a better fate

Amen to that.

William Anderson
William Anderson

Freckles is better and more interesting Kou. Thank god I have fanart of him. You're just an alikou self insert fag. I never hated fish before you insufferable fagets. Wait, that's a lie--she's a histrionic conclusion-jumping bitch who lacks all propriety and self control, oh yeah. Fishpoop is garbage.

Michael Clark
Michael Clark

ayyy

Justin Hughes
Justin Hughes

No but tell us how you really feel.

John Martinez
John Martinez

those are acne scars, not freckles. nigga don't even wash his face

Ryan Davis
Ryan Davis

I give up, have a koen.

That's not canon. Mogamett got more of them with age...are you saying an 80 year old man had acne? Anyway still more interesting, I didn't say he's attractive.

Nicholas Phillips
Nicholas Phillips

it's ohtaka's production sketch from the dvds, m8. and nothin says dumbledore's spots are zit scars. his could be liver spots.

Austin Rodriguez
Austin Rodriguez

ohtaka's production sketch from the dvds
Can you post the rest? Do you have a folder,paste bin or something?

James Richardson
James Richardson

http://hayarashi.tumblr.com/tagged/magi-official-art
don't got everything saved, but start here.

Justin Diaz
Justin Diaz

Thanks user.

John Gomez
John Gomez

Fish a cute. I hope she meets her brothers again someday.

Angel Roberts
Angel Roberts

Can't help but notice that ~70% of Magi's art looks mediocre as hell. Pretty sad.

Brandon Campbell
Brandon Campbell

the majority of art for every series is somewhere between shit and mediocre. it ain't just a magi thing

Samuel Walker
Samuel Walker

Went away for a bit but i just wanted to point out that i was indeed another person before you went ahead and shitposted the thread with small edits on the "oh shit" pic.

Check out the time between my post at and his . There was no time for the same person to be doing both.

Dylan Clark
Dylan Clark

I kinda hope fish gets some form of revenge against Sinbad.

Perhaps by having Alibaba help her kingdom rise out of the debts and stand firm without having to rely on Sinbad?

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