When did Dragon Ball jump the shark?

Aaron Turner
Aaron Turner

When did Dragon Ball jump the shark?

Camden Campbell
Camden Campbell

Never. Also use the catalog retard

Evan Rivera
Evan Rivera

Including Z or no?

Cameron Stewart
Cameron Stewart

Honestly? With the introduction of the power level numbers and how religiously dumb kids followed them

Christopher Gutierrez
Christopher Gutierrez

Arguably the start of Z
Buu
GT
Return of F
Super

Take your pick.

Christian Johnson
Christian Johnson

The time skip.

Liam Lewis
Liam Lewis

Dragon Ball jumped the shark like 6 times, but every time it did it got better.

Grayson Bennett
Grayson Bennett

Goku and Krillin training with Master Roshi when they had to swim away from the sharks.

Grayson Lopez
Grayson Lopez

It was sometime between Piccolo's and Raditz's first appearances

Parker Moore
Parker Moore

When fights consisted of JUMPING REALLY HIGH

Thomas Barnes
Thomas Barnes

Never. The manga is highly entertaining from beginning to end.

David Miller
David Miller

The 21st Budokai?

Jordan Martin
Jordan Martin

Id say when they dropped the whole Radditz thing in general. I mean he's your brother Goku. That really feels like it should have been a bigger deal.

And yeah I get he was evil but Vegeta was far worse

Benjamin Fisher
Benjamin Fisher

It should have ended after Oolong wished for panties

Caleb Wood
Caleb Wood

Episode 18

Landon Gutierrez
Landon Gutierrez

Obviously at the point when the anime became Z.

For a long running series it was wise to change things up to keep with trends but recasting Goku and Piccolo as aliens may have been a step too far

Zachary Cox
Zachary Cox

I do gotta admit I really feel like it lost all of it's magic when it... well it lost all of it's magic.

Daniel Russell
Daniel Russell

The moment Goku opened his mouth in the Buu Saga, or the moment Supreme Faggot showed up.

Justin Gutierrez
Justin Gutierrez

You mean when the main villains became regular people with guns?

Jackson Baker
Jackson Baker

Underrated

Hudson Wilson
Hudson Wilson

like this?

Jose Rivera
Jose Rivera

Filler Pilaf makes me want to kill myself

Carter Scott
Carter Scott

But it makes the world feel more alive knowing they've been around the entire time instead of just abruptly showing up a few times.

Parker Phillips
Parker Phillips

DBZ was fun on its own merits. If you go from DB to DBZ expecting a spiritual sequel then yeah it's going to be disappointing. DBZ was obviously more action oriented and did action quite well, it lost a lot of the adventure/comedic aspects in the transition but nothing after the timeskip between the series was something I could seriously complain about.

Cameron Evans
Cameron Evans

But Z is not a sequel like GT or Super, they were still adapting the original manga, it was the manga what changed.

Nicholas Rodriguez
Nicholas Rodriguez

This. Also anything after Frieza.

Justin Gray
Justin Gray

It just occured to me Radditz was NEVER seen again, not in any episode or ova, hell, I don't think they even mentioned him again beyond "yeah that alien guy we killed"

Carter Smith
Carter Smith

When the Dragon Balls were first mentioned. Before then, it was a perfectly good series about a boy punching fish.

Brandon Torres
Brandon Torres

And yeah I get he was evil but Vegeta was far worse
not really
as far as the manga goes, Nappa was the most evil saiyan.
vegeta's kill count from the moment we saw him until he joined the good guys were all friezas soldiers (maybe some nameks? I forget)
and literally each one he killed was more evil than himself.
Vegeta's a killer, but there's no real indication that he was more evil than radditz, who chose to try and trick his brother into being evil rather than just kidnapping him, and then lied constantly to try and get the upper hand.
he was a real sleaze.
Growing up without a father does that.

Blake Morris
Blake Morris

Raditz got mentioned a couple times after.

Goku asked Enma if he went to Hell
Nappa called him a weakling and said each Saibaman was as strong as him
Cui taunted Vegeta over Raditz and Nappa dying
Freeza speculates that he might be Gohan's father

Read the manga

William Jones
William Jones

when goku survived namek

Asher Taylor
Asher Taylor

You remember way wrong. Vegeta was one of the most evil characters in the whole series. Even Nappa was shocked when he killed the Saibaman. And of course he executed Nappa for getting crippled. And yes, you did forget about the time Vegeta murdered a dozen Namekians. He even bragged about it later. He went on to kill many more innocent people after he "joined the good guys".

James Young
James Young

It jumped the shark when it became localized in the west

Cooper Collins
Cooper Collins

The exact moment Tien is told he is Goku's equal and in the event Goku fails to seal Piccolo he should attempt to.

Nicholas Wilson
Nicholas Wilson

Hey to be fair

Adam Nguyen
Adam Nguyen

When the fambase got old and bitter

Luke Jones
Luke Jones

When everyone else but the Saiyans became utterly useless.

Its such a boring, tired trope.

Daniel Reed
Daniel Reed

But that never happened. Goku was presumed dead for the entire Piccolo Saga.

Aiden Powell
Aiden Powell

I like this answer

Christopher Rogers
Christopher Rogers

This is the most correct answer.

Elijah Barnes
Elijah Barnes

Z. Aliens was a stupid idea.

Leo Martin
Leo Martin

Why is Goku so cute?

Joshua Harris
Joshua Harris

/thread

Dominic Cruz
Dominic Cruz

When shooting ki beams stop becoming a feat. Kamehameha was like a trump card. Somewhere around the Piccolo era started the beginning of people being able to throw out nameless/effortless ki beams. That began the escalating scale of power bullshit.

John Watson
John Watson

Raditz
Gohans father
That would mean Chi Chi....
mfw

Jack Ward
Jack Ward

I would argue that is hasn't. Just the fact that we've gotten older and each arc largely was the same formula is the cause for it not aging too well. Dragonball has always been about simple story telling. Also I think its arcs repeating the same story over and over and over just isn't that captivating for a modern 18 to 35 audience.

Lincoln Howard
Lincoln Howard

After they stopped with the numeric power levels.

Nolan Ortiz
Nolan Ortiz

Super's last episode
A "punch drunk / fighting injury" episode
IN FUCKING DRAGON BALL
AT THIS FUCKING POINT

God Super gets more retarded every episode.

Camden Perry
Camden Perry

when roshi blew up the moon

Grayson Adams
Grayson Adams

The saiyan arc.
When Goku was revealed to be an alien.
When mindless beamspamming replaced the actual martial arts.
When half the cast became useless and irrelevant.
When fights were won through endless power ups instead of strategy and tactics.
When the dragon balls did more than just bring back the dead heroes only for them to die in the very next arc.
When the senile bastard forgot about pic related.
When every new arc was the exact same "BUT THEN A STRONGER BADDIE APPEARED" bullshit.

Gabriel Bell
Gabriel Bell

Good God. Talk about over explaining.

Joshua Evans
Joshua Evans

The Kamehameha was introduced really early. It was the logical line of progression so long as the characters continued to get stronger.

Kevin Cruz
Kevin Cruz

Dragon ball? Only the last filler episodes were that bad. Ox king running around with a wedding dress. Gohan shows up with the giantess chinese chick. Fixing shit with honey...

Camden Fisher
Camden Fisher

Nah, fuck off, retard

James James
James James

After Cell's arc

Angel Adams
Angel Adams

First post best post.

Brayden Martinez
Brayden Martinez

Daimaou arc

Landon Scott
Landon Scott

The second Aliens were brought up.

Jordan Barnes
Jordan Barnes

When Goku fugged ChiChi and not Bulma.

Ian Clark
Ian Clark

Only beta losers like Yamcha and Vegeta fug the town bike. Goku always fucks first.

Parker Stewart
Parker Stewart

The moment Toriyama stopped drawing it. Is he senile? Sure. Does his current art style not mesh well with what was drawn in DB's prime? Yeah. But he was still the genuine Tori. Toyotaro can mimic Tori's style well enough, but he isn't the real deal, he cannot into good character design and I think he'd shit the bed if he tried to come up with something as good as pic related on his own. He's bargain bin Toriyama, his legacy will be that of mimicking a legend. He will never carve his own path.

Jordan Long
Jordan Long

The moment that the concept of Saiyans were introduced. They effectively killed off every important character in Dragon Ball with the arrival of Raditz. The only characters that matter anymore are Goku, Vegeta, and Goku and Vegeta's offspring. This motherfucker used to be a bad motherfucker, now he's legitimately useless.

Brayden Long
Brayden Long

He was worthless far before the saiyans.

Jordan Stewart
Jordan Stewart

When Z started.

Camden Brown
Camden Brown

The fuck is this from? I don't remember this at all.

Josiah Reyes
Josiah Reyes

Radditz arrival marked the beginning of the end.
Namek was still pretty decent, better than the sayan's arc, everything after that is garbage.

Colton Morris
Colton Morris

Oh wait, it's Dragon Ball Z: Gather Together! Goku's World game.

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