I have fallen in love

Oliver Evans
Oliver Evans

I have fallen in love.

Also fuck the True ending, Good ending is canon for me

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Levi Smith
Levi Smith

Great taste OP. She is by far best TM girl.

Grayson James
Grayson James

What's the anime?

Cooper Williams
Cooper Williams

arcueid isn't in an anime user

Angel Moore
Angel Moore

Seriously, it's been a while since I was invested in a Typemoon character. Arcueid has such a great personality that she easily beats every other Typemoon character that I've seen so far.

Benjamin Green
Benjamin Green

This is a Manga then?

Asher Watson
Asher Watson

Every ending is canon OP. Specially Ciel's good ending.

Ryan Collins
Ryan Collins

Memecueid
shit girl

Connor Rodriguez
Connor Rodriguez

Please Cut along dotted line
- - - - - - your - waifu - - - - - - - -

Anthony Parker
Anthony Parker

2016
Posting gifs

Kevin Watson
Kevin Watson

Her redesign is better.

Ryan Johnson
Ryan Johnson

Turkkeyhandle anime when?

John Adams
John Adams

Anyone want to Melty?

Caleb Robinson
Caleb Robinson

What happens in the True ending, I only read the Good ending and called it a day

Josiah Perry
Josiah Perry

Can you host?

Owen Garcia
Owen Garcia

Room is up, name is Sup Forums.

Xavier Moore
Xavier Moore

All I see is a room named ``oppai''.

Brayden Barnes
Brayden Barnes

That's weird since I can't see that room.

Jonathan Foster
Jonathan Foster

She used up too much power in the Roa fight so she has to go to sleep forever to prevent herself from going crazy and sucking blood. She shows up at Shiki's school and tells him. The end.

Jason Ramirez
Jason Ramirez

;_;

I'm just going to forget your post and be content with the Happy end like OP

Liam Mitchell
Liam Mitchell

You mean true ending? Because ciel doesn't deserved happy ending. NTR ending the best for her

Landon Butler
Landon Butler

My bad, i read specially as except

Landon Ramirez
Landon Ramirez

Were Kohaku's actions justified?

Asher Brooks
Asher Brooks

No, but I can't really blame her for wanting revenge.

Alexander Davis
Alexander Davis

I don't know
What I do know is that I prefer Hisui over her ;_;

Camden Reyes
Camden Reyes

Ironically Hisui's Good Ending is one of the better endings for Kohaku because she gets a fresh start

Jaxon White
Jaxon White

How is that ironic? It would be a pretty shit "good" end for Hisui if her beloved sister got screwed over.

William Harris
William Harris

If you're thinking about it like that, Hisui kinda did get screwed over. She has to watch over her now childlike sister while also keeping their past a secret when she should be busy getting the Shiki dick like the Good in Good Ending implies.

Benjamin Watson
Benjamin Watson

Also fuck the True ending, Good ending is canon for me
Multiverse aside, shouldn't Arc be "canon" hanging out with Shiki anyway? Because the real parts of Kagetsu Tohya have her around.

Wyatt Young
Wyatt Young

Manga ending is best ending

Even if it's a copy of Lunar 2's.

Zachary Rivera
Zachary Rivera

The shittiest thing about her true ending is how easily they could explain it away if they wanted. Arc could literally show up whenever and be like "oh I slept long enough I'm better now" and you would pretty much be unable to dispute it.

David Barnes
David Barnes

Jokes on you the manga is superior to the near side routes.

Camden Johnson
Camden Johnson

when you re-remember the truck ingame only the cat is there and not arcuied, it is possible even the opening is more cat drugs.

Xavier Baker
Xavier Baker

Uh no. Arc is the one that shows up to see Shiki at the hospital on the ending of the game. Shiki even promises to go with her on the summer festival.

Jackson Lewis
Jackson Lewis

Read the manga. The author makes a continuation where Shiki comes and breaks her out of the castle she's hibernating in and wakes her up

Josiah Sanchez
Josiah Sanchez

You're forgetting about the True True End.

Jaxson Cook
Jaxson Cook

Why the fuck would anyone do that?

Ryder Gomez
Ryder Gomez

Kagetsu Tohya continues from Good End

Kayden Edwards
Kayden Edwards

It's Tsukihime. It has an anime but people pretend it doesn't exist because it wasn't a great adaptation of the original visual novel.

Be mad TM fags.

Also, look at my picture.

Oliver Bailey
Oliver Bailey

Yeah. The manga is called Shingetsutan Tsukihime, and it's an adaption of a visual novel.

Carter Nguyen
Carter Nguyen

I would die happy if Kagetsu had a remake with as much content as f/ha

Robert Hall
Robert Hall

141670284
holy shit, I didn't know you could do that.
I've been saving the images to my computer, opening a new tab, and then uploading them to google.
So many minutes of my life I'll never get back...

Julian Kelly
Julian Kelly

Holy shit son, you have problems. Reverse image search is even on the damn right click menu.

Landon Myers
Landon Myers

When?

Caleb Clark
Caleb Clark

Church girls take it up the butt.

Do what you will with that fact.

Colton Gonzalez
Colton Gonzalez

thats why you should READ FAQ.......

Asher Martin
Asher Martin

I dunno what kind of true end you are watching.

But a cat is fine, too.

Chase Cooper
Chase Cooper

Isn't it sad...?

Cooper Ward
Cooper Ward

Stupid idiot.

Gavin Cook
Gavin Cook

when she reaches the unreachable dream

Jack Brooks
Jack Brooks

I read manga only and sometimes watch anime. Do the manga and VN compare well? One far better than other? Probably will read it either way.

Leo Parker
Leo Parker

HA HA HA
Saber blows Arc completely out of the water. She is so much better it's not even funny.

Gabriel Sullivan
Gabriel Sullivan

Go to bed, Takeuchi.

Jonathan Howard
Jonathan Howard

Meh she's not that cute

Jaxson Hernandez
Jaxson Hernandez

Arcueid is great, but I prefer Ciel too.

Blake Morris
Blake Morris

animated jpeg

What sorcery is this?

Jacob Lopez
Jacob Lopez

Lurk more, read the rules/faq.

Gabriel Bell
Gabriel Bell

animated
gifs
It's just a visual illusion you idiots.

Ryan Brown
Ryan Brown

Time to drop some hot opinions

arc > hisui > ciel > kohaku > akiha

HOWEVER, actual routes go more like

ciel > hisui > akiha > arc > kohaku

making hisui overall the best girl

Gavin King
Gavin King

I have never understood the difference between true/good endings

literally nothing changes between the two that would point to arc being more wounded, the only thing that changes what ending you get is picking which of two very similar responses shiki has after everything has calmed back down

Carson Young
Carson Young

Good end is fuck everything I want a happy ever after.

Landon Rogers
Landon Rogers

Arc that high
Here's some hot opinions of my own.

Girls:
Ciel > Len > Kohaku > Akiha > Hisui > Arc

Routes:
Ciel > Len > Akiha > Hisui > Arc >>>> Kohaku

Brayden Gray
Brayden Gray

pretty good taste

Girls:
Ciel > Hisui > Arc > Kohaku >>>>>> Akiha

Routes:
Ciel > Hisui > Akiha > Arc > Kohaku

Jace Thompson
Jace Thompson

I've never seen an opinion as shit as this before, congrats

Colton Ross
Colton Ross

Arc = Hisui > Akiha = Kohaku > Ciel

Kohaku > Akiha = Hisui > Arc > Ciel

Julian Wilson
Julian Wilson

It all makes sense now

John Sullivan
John Sullivan

Combining the worst girls get you a best girl
The fuck?

Isaiah Gomez
Isaiah Gomez

I hope you mean Sakura

Landon Rogers
Landon Rogers

How did everything go so wrong starting at 2012?

Cameron Martin
Cameron Martin

It stopped looking like a 90s character design

Christian Parker
Christian Parker

you cant have her! shes my waifu!

Liam Gomez
Liam Gomez

Rin and Akiha could almost be sisters.

Dylan Rivera
Dylan Rivera

no. fuck her.

Andrew Flores
Andrew Flores

2012 and on is just fucking awful
Takeuchi ruined her

Cameron Ortiz
Cameron Ortiz

we are all saber now

Isaac Price
Isaac Price

I was thinking the exact same thing the first time I read f/sn

Brayden Powell
Brayden Powell

"But I don't want to be Saber", said Alice.

William Howard
William Howard

literally who??

Aaron Russell
Aaron Russell

I think I once saw Touko making out with her.

Angel Cruz
Angel Cruz

Go read Kagetsu Tohya faggot, that's where true best girl is.

Christian Thomas
Christian Thomas

caring about Dirty Red

Levi Edwards
Levi Edwards

best girl is a plot device
................

William Gonzalez
William Gonzalez

Dirty Red has the right idea though. If you can go both ways, you'll never get disappointed with regards to bed partners.

Jack Cox
Jack Cox

Her 623C hotbox is fucked enough for it

Asher Lewis
Asher Lewis

agreed

Liam Wilson
Liam Wilson

Also fuck the True ending,
Read the manga epilogue. They are reunited again after the True ending.

Leo Richardson
Leo Richardson

Akiha is no where as bitchy as Rin.

Luis White
Luis White

Is tsukuhime worth playing, played the fate vn's.

John Wright
John Wright

play it and find out

Kevin Green
Kevin Green

heard lots of people say that its outdated, but i guess i will give it ago.

Carter Murphy
Carter Murphy

Yeah it is. a lot of fate character design comes from here and if you enjoyed heaven's feel route this is similar and just as good, if not better

Dominic Myers
Dominic Myers

Akiha never had to deal with Sword Autism.

Carson Myers
Carson Myers

this is my new waifu

Chase Rodriguez
Chase Rodriguez

i'm finally playing umineko with the old sprites, i don't think VNs can really be "outdated"

Jeremiah White
Jeremiah White

i heard that they were gonna remake it, so i was gonna wait. But may aswell give it ago.

Dylan Ward
Dylan Ward

Best subs for carnival phantasm?

Angel Wilson
Angel Wilson

Sadly, Hollow was just more content period than KT even taking out the minigames, because the characters were actually friendly with each other and enhance their story together. Whereas Tsukihime has such a cast that is more self contained, the girls are mostly to themselves and antagonistic with each other while the Fate girls are people you can see stand each other for more than five minutes without comedically strangling each other while Shiki sweats in the background.

It's why you hardly ever see any KT doujins, but Hollow ones come out by the barrel. It makes for the more interesting setting.

Andrew Richardson
Andrew Richardson

Needing to get past so many repeated events and dialogs just to unlock flags and new scenes just feels like terrible pacing in KT

Asher Gray
Asher Gray

That's because it is terrible pacing.

Angel Anderson
Angel Anderson

I see where you are coming from but they took a lot of liberties in the interactions where people would have conversations when they really should be sworn enemies eg Caster. It's definitely possible you can write the tsuki characters in the same fashion. Nero, Roa and SHIKI definitely have potential to be amusing characters alongside their antagonistic qualities

It's been a while since I played KT but from what I remember most of the scenes involved just Shiki and the person he is talking to. There is great potential for the group scenarios hollow had

Lucas Howard
Lucas Howard

I swear, fanartists capture the unintentional sexiness that Sakura has better than Takeuchi ever has until recently. The overly conservative clothes were supposed to belie great curves. Why did you get it so late, Takeuchi?

Zachary Sanchez
Zachary Sanchez

user, it's because Fate is more popular. Back in the day we used to get Tsuki doujins by the barrels too.

Jayden Hernandez
Jayden Hernandez

What I find funny is that even as Sakura is finally ebing shown as the really sexy one, others like Arc and Ciel are losing a lot of their sexiness. Most official art downplays just how stacked Arc is, and Ciel has the same bust as Sakura with a much nicer ass to boot, and yet her redesign makes her look like Rin breast wise.

Connor Johnson
Connor Johnson

disliking Kohaku but liking Sakura
That's some impressive shit taste you got there.

Hunter Bailey
Hunter Bailey

tfw can't take Kohaku seriously and thought of her as wacky comic relief after CP, Melty, and Illya Prisma

Christian Gonzalez
Christian Gonzalez

Although it was tedious to keep skipping scenes that was the magic of KT. A one day route of many piling up choices that wind up with unexpected encounters and events. Repetition is a big part of this game so finally seeing something new as you drowsily skip is exciting and seeing the cat all over place adds to the progression.

The way you have to plan out the route to unlock things adds to the mystique of the environment Shiki is in. I unlocked the cultural festival AFTER I beat the game because getting all the scenes to unlock the option requires a whole day's worth of specific option choices. Even now I'm convinced there is some scene I have missed because the routes to get special scenes can only be gotten by a narrow set of decisions.

Robert Ramirez
Robert Ramirez

That's because Takeuchi can now only draw one body type, albeit with not-awful proportions

Chase Brown
Chase Brown

boy, what should we do with this tragic heroine who constantly acts like a mother hen
i know, make her into a mad scientist nutjob

I kinda feel like they did the same thing with Hisui when a lot of her gags come from the hypnosis

Jeremiah Hall
Jeremiah Hall

where does the hypnosis come from anyways? I'm skipping through KT for new scenes and Hisui never got any major role in the story aside from the repeated waking up scene and dinner scene.

Camden Gutierrez
Camden Gutierrez

ironically it's from Imogirisou (10 nights of dream), a side story that parodies another work and ends with Hisui doing the stupid arm moving

You're missing the picnic scene. Missing out hard user

Angel Ross
Angel Ross

oh yeah forgot about that
soggy sandwich with plum porridge
at least you tried, Hisui

Nathan Miller
Nathan Miller

Caster was acidic at times, but to a believable degree, and it showed a more mature side to her. Shirou acknowledged what she did and calls her on it, and she pretty much says "I have no need to do that anymore, but I would be that witch again if I had to." So it makes a believable change.

That, and in Hollow, you got a feeling of the characters progressing, something I don't really think you would get with Tsukihime. Sakura and Rin are working toward their future, and build upon their sibling relationship, yet I hardly saw the same with Kohaku and Hisui. Akiha did have some good stuff, thankfully, her and Ciel being my favorites.
Outside of a few good select scenes in KT it was like the typical fandisc, which let's be honest, had guest scenarios just like Hollow.

You could make more comedic things with the antagonists, but you have to wonder if you could have as many interesting talks without things falling apart. There was a reason they had Zouken defanged by Sakura, Gil being satisfied being a child, and Kirei staying dead. All the other antagonists were somewhat reasonable. Beyond a couple of self contained scenes in their own little bubble like you mentioned, it still pales in comparison with Hollow's potential for both comedy and intrigue.

The jist of my argument is that Fate has more believable interactive potential. Nearly every character can interact with any other character and have a sensible conversation.

Mason Reed
Mason Reed

Well come on, there isn't much to be done. It's not like they would bring Makihisa back as some kooky dad like they made Zouken a trolling grandpa.

The way Nasu works through tragic heroines post game is to take away that element and up the comedy. With Kohaku, she adopts her Melty persona entirely, another user already mentioned what happened with Sakura, and Fujino...well, Fujino is kind of just put off to the side.

Henry Collins
Henry Collins

It's a joke from the original Tsukihime that had a typo that had Hisui basically go "you will be the murderer!" And thus people started calling her the Brainwasher Detective with all those hypnosis jokes. It's really a meta joke just like how Ciel got reduced to Curry, Arc became Phantasm Moon and all Akiha does is write porn.

Kevin Wright
Kevin Wright

only Tsukihime that isn't a two faced bitch
Good taste, user.

Benjamin Adams
Benjamin Adams

Tsukihime Remake
This decade
I wish I still had hope.

Jayden Sanchez
Jayden Sanchez

I'd say it's easier to justify that argument because hollow is so much more expansive and developed compared to KT. I believe it has just as much interactive potential as hollow but it didn't get the chance.

About your character progression topic though, I believe that with KT wanted to be more about getting past their demons as opposed to the progression of relationships, you can see this with Shiki and Ciel, and somewhat Arc. It's a half assed attempt, since the far side heroines don't really get that kind of treatment

Charles Wright
Charles Wright

fuck the True ending
he doesn't want to see Shiki and Arc adventures through Europe and fucking up DAAs

Dominic Price
Dominic Price

I hate Kohaku after she continuously cockblocked me in KT. Just let me fuck your sister or my sister already.

Caleb Miller
Caleb Miller

Why is nobody ever talking about her?

Carson Ward
Carson Ward

There is a scene in HA where Sakura bitches about 'Tohno senpai', while obviously referring to Rin

Levi Ross
Levi Ross

she only exists for about an hour combined in everything she's appeared in

Cameron Lopez
Cameron Lopez

I like these random details in this manga

Dominic Jenkins
Dominic Jenkins

When I first saw her I thought she would be edgy taking into account the whole moon princess vampire thing but it seems she is a ditz. Mind = full of fuck

Hunter Collins
Hunter Collins

I'll have you know you're wrong, however I much preferred the manga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQFPQo1cD7c

Also I hope you were joking about that and that you have seen Carnival Phantasm

Gabriel Cox
Gabriel Cox

What dream? Show more of it

Aaron Baker
Aaron Baker

If you still having hope was about the remake happening it doesn't have a date yet but the characters designs are out (She looked better with the long skirt imo) http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/04/13-1/tsukihime-remake-release-reportedly-still-tba

Jacob Smith
Jacob Smith

How does Tsukihime compare to FSN. I dislike FSN because of Nasu's writing which makes me want to kill myself. From the little I've seen Shiki is a douche as well.

I like Koharu's design but I don't like Sakura and it seems that Sakura is based on her

Matthew Richardson
Matthew Richardson

Reminder that Flowers of Thanatos was originally meant to be part of original game with Hisui and Kohaku mindfusing as one of endings for original Hisui route.

Isaiah Garcia
Isaiah Garcia

Nasu's writing is pretty decent, are you really that much of a faggot that you judge it based on shitty translations? Shiki is a no personality self insert in the original, he only becomes a douche from KT onwards.
Kohaku is similar in backstory but very different personality-wise from Sakura. Asagami in KnK is much more the "original" Sakura.

Grayson Hill
Grayson Hill

Shiki is a douche? He always seemed to be a kind of carefree cool guy. Maybe a bit too sarcastic sometimes, but I like it. I mean, his relationship with Arihiko is as normal as it gets.
Asagami did nothing wrong.

Aiden Jenkins
Aiden Jenkins

Is that the girl from Carnival Phantasm? How can you fall in love with a random side character from a meme show?

Kevin Perry
Kevin Perry

This is actually Saber.

Gavin Morales
Gavin Morales

I wouldn't have much of a problem with Arceuid if she wasn't constantly wanked everywhere she appears as A) being the most beautiful girl ever and B) being the most powerful being on the planet.

Type-moon is at its best when it isn't engaging in blatant powerlevel nonsense, and Arceuid's very existence is like a sledgehammer to the face and Nasu shouting "NO SHE IS THE MOST POWERFUL IN THE UNIVERSE SHUT UP LOSER SHE'S NOT EVEN USING HALF HER REAL POWER AND THE PLANET MAKES HER STRONGER SO THAT SHE'S THE STRONGEST EVEN THOUGH IF IT DIDN'T SHE WOULDN'T ACTUALLY BE THE STRONGEST"

Brayden Reed
Brayden Reed

She's only the most powerful existence on the planet so that when Shiki kills her, it gives self-insert fags the biggest boner ever.

Hudson Long
Hudson Long

The same is true of Gilgamesh, he's only the most powerful Servant so that when Shirou takes him down it gives self-insert fags the second biggest boner ever.

Aiden Lopez
Aiden Lopez

Shiki is a no personality self insert in the original
I feel like shiki has way more of a personality than shirou does, who basically just invents his SWORD OF JUSTICE shit halfway through UBW and never looks back. I barely even felt like he was a character so much as he was just the thing you experience the story through because outside of his intentionally dehumanizing philosophy all he really has is "good at cooking" and "doesn't ask questions" going for him.

meanwhile shiki is a lot more like an actual human, he shows a lot more variety in his emotions and has worries and emotional responses that make sense (until he suddenly files off on a murder tangent, which is actually shocking while shirous stuff isn't because you have that contrast).

I guess being more relate-able does technically make shiki more of a self insert, but I wouldn't wanna be either of these people because they have pretty shitty lives

Aiden Williams
Aiden Williams

arcueid being hella strong worked in tsukihime itself because the story was specifically written that way, the only time arcueid being so strong is used in a "oh man she's so awesome how do I deal" way is when she's a goddamn antagonist during ciel route otherwise it's just the excuse for there to be drama (and even then it's implied that even if shiki doesn't slice arcueid up she still has issues dealing with nero/roa/ciel despite technically being way weaker then them)

it falls apart in crossovers I guess but that's because fate in general introduced powerlevel shit and arcueid wank was just a consequence of that

Dylan Ward
Dylan Ward

There is no such thing as a self-insert. That's a dumb meme that normafags came up with to dismiss harem anime.

You are never meant to insert into the MC.

Jack Anderson
Jack Anderson

Took care of
More like lived in

Kayden Foster
Kayden Foster

Yes it is true that translations and the original differ night and day but from what I've seen in FSN what can be said in 5 lines takes 20. I was surprised that the VN is so long but seeing that it it's so bloated makes everything clear

Matthew Morgan
Matthew Morgan

This is what I also see in Shiki. There's LACK of characterization in different routes or at different parts of the story, but after you get into the thick of a route's "bad thing that happens," it's explained as to why he's actually a lot stronger emotionally and as a personality than we initially see.

Eli Johnson
Eli Johnson

How does Tsukihime compare to FSN
The pacing is better because each individual route is quite a bit shorter and isn't full of filler cooking/training bullshit

Except for heavens feel and the sex scenes heavens feel sits at around a 16 age rating, tsukihime is easily 18+

Tsukihime (and especially KT it's sort of sequel) feel a bit more like a game than fate does because your choices affect how the plot progresses a lot more than in FSN (where you make the one choice to pick a route early on and then every choice is just "do you want an ending now y/n"

I personally like the action scenes a lot more, both the way they're done and the fact that tsukihime doesn't have the silly rpg stats

Hudson Lewis
Hudson Lewis

That's blatantly untrue.

Jack Jones
Jack Jones

part of it too is that shiki brings out very different aspects of his character based on what scenario he's in, while shirou is shirou all the time

it makes shiki more rounded looking at it overall but in any given route I can see someone feeling he's kinda one dimensional.

Benjamin Morris
Benjamin Morris

Some people say Shiki is a bland harem insert while you have others say that he is an interesting character. I would like to say that Shirou is too autistic to be said the same for but he bones femarthur and defeats the strongest servant which feels like the most blatant insert ever though

Isaac Lee
Isaac Lee

90% of what people call self-insert characters are not. I was wrong in saying they don't exist but it's never subtle. And they're usually not really characters.

Like the protag in FGO, in the TM Ace interview Nasu said that he/she wouldn't be having a bigger role in the story because he was a stand in for the player and then contrasted him with Shiki/Shirou which many call self-inserts.

A self-insert is a character like Master Chief, Link or the protags in Sprite's VNs. It's not written characters like Shirou or Shiki.

Nathaniel Collins
Nathaniel Collins

2011/12 Arc looks best, with the free flowing hair and all. Although I have difficulty imagining '12 Arc in those clothes.

Lucas Sanders
Lucas Sanders

How does someone self-insert as Shirou anyways? I don't think most people have the same fetishes as him.

Jayden Jones
Jayden Jones

implying you wouldn't rub your dick up and down a nice fuller

Josiah Nelson
Josiah Nelson

Man that's some shit tier fetish
Everyone knows that fire is superior fetish

Josiah Jones
Josiah Jones

fire
good fetish
You clearly have not seen the sophisticated beauty of floor tiles. Look at this image & tell me your sword is not hard.

Wyatt Cruz
Wyatt Cruz

i wanna trace those lines

Alexander Torres
Alexander Torres

the ^_^ face is pretty endearing, I'll give you that

Tyler Hall
Tyler Hall

Shirou tries to make himself seem like a nobody, but it's all lies.

He enjoys cooking, working with his hands, and making things. He just tries to shove down anything he might enjoy because he feels he doesn't deserve enjoyment of any sort. Those were big things in UBW and in HF. But in reality, he is actually quite the sarcastic guy who sulks quite a bit when someone one ups him. He can't stand losing face with Sakura as her senpai and teacher and mentally gets depressed when he sees she is surpassing him in cooking, despite saying he doesn't enjoy it and is visibly calmed when they cook together.

The dehumanizing is just his way to cope, always was. He goes hunting with Taiga's father, fixes motorcycles and vans for his Yakima for extra money, along with working at a bar since he was 12. He is pretty much a self made guy underneath the supposed sword autism.

Christopher Nguyen
Christopher Nguyen

Sensei redesign when.

Bentley Ramirez
Bentley Ramirez

Fuck off.

Isaiah Lee
Isaiah Lee

So when will the remake be released?

Cooper Gomez
Cooper Gomez

How else do you describe this face?

Lucas Parker
Lucas Parker

cute

Carter Hall
Carter Hall

With the image you just posted. As is intended on an imageboard.

Sebastian Jenkins
Sebastian Jenkins

Like a morning breeze and lying in a soft pillow, just like your daki user!

Jack Rivera
Jack Rivera

i recognize this artist

Leo Wilson
Leo Wilson

Have a canon redesign

Owen Sullivan
Owen Sullivan

Never please.

Isaiah Smith
Isaiah Smith

仕方が無い

Lucas Parker
Lucas Parker

Arc is the best.

Carter Long
Carter Long

First is Ciel
Great taste

Jason Brown
Jason Brown

delete this

Michael Ortiz
Michael Ortiz

Saberface
Shrunken Tits
Slutty Miniskirt

Trash/10

Jayden Bailey
Jayden Bailey

How do people see a saberface? Saber dressed in that would not look like that.

Gabriel Taylor
Gabriel Taylor

WHAT DID THEY DO TO MY ARCUEID?!?!

Ryan Parker
Ryan Parker

I wonder how they are going to draw Roa. I hope he stays a rock star

Matthew Gray
Matthew Gray

3 or 4

Xavier King
Xavier King

By not actually reading anything into the character more than his powers.

Parker Gutierrez
Parker Gutierrez

A self-insert is a character like Master Chief, Link
Not even. They're more rare than that.

Asher Smith
Asher Smith

confirmed as fuck Arcueid is cute

Angel Watson
Angel Watson

I forgot to mention it but I would have added Extra's protags. They have no personality or discernible traits and any comment made to them can be interpreted as being towards the player.

Tyler Reyes
Tyler Reyes

Dem quints. Arc best girl.

Bentley Brown
Bentley Brown

Look at them quints for best girl.

Luis Rivera
Luis Rivera

3 is the best because it keeps the dress but also keeps the boots from the new design

all the other 'main' heroines have cool boots so arc having a pair makes sense

Lucas Ward
Lucas Ward

and the hair

Dominic Scott
Dominic Scott

Give 4 a burgundy or maroon skirt, and we have a deal.

Alexander Bennett
Alexander Bennett

dotted line
Posts dash, are you ESL?

Adam Young
Adam Young

It's signal doubtful. My country is predominantly English speaking and yet dashes are used on dotted lines for forms. I assume for aesthetic reasons, due to interrupted dashes looking more like a line than sequential dots.

Isaiah Ramirez
Isaiah Ramirez

What? No. Just play the VN for like. 5 minutes.

Julian Fisher
Julian Fisher

Wow I never thought Nips are aware of good Western sci fi novel.

Alexander Watson
Alexander Watson

Lmao so I didn't know one manga. Go release your bowels everywhere for no reason somewhere else

Zachary Hill
Zachary Hill

I have fallen in love.

well

you've gone and done it m8

you've been cucked by a cartoon

seriously

job well done

i'll be praying for your parents, may god have mercy upon them

Liam Torres
Liam Torres

cat butt

Gabriel Gray
Gabriel Gray

There are a few Westabros among the Nips.

Jordan Williams
Jordan Williams

I can't believe after 10 years I am seeing more Ciel Loving.

Ryder Martin
Ryder Martin

oh man i love this album
4 walls and adobe slats for muh giiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirls

Dylan Walker
Dylan Walker

Her hair is very tomboy-ish yet still very cute
How does she do it!?

Nathaniel Jones
Nathaniel Jones

curry.

Adrian Morales
Adrian Morales

To be honest, I never did. Self inserting as Shirou is missing the entire point of the VN anyway, which is how Shirou develops as a person and how he develops his relations with his ideals. Fate is basically him saying "Fuck you, my ideals aren't wrong.", UBW has him going "My ideals may be flawed, but they're still worth having" and HF is him rejecting his ideals for new ones.

Nasu might be a hack, but the character arcs and world building he did pre Taka fucking everything up with his Saber fetish was pretty damn great.

Mason Miller
Mason Miller

mfw when I skipped Ciel's route to go to Akiha's route....

Gavin Fisher
Gavin Fisher

nigga

Xavier Garcia
Xavier Garcia

Please forgive me senpai! I thought she was uninteresting!

Angel Morris
Angel Morris

Go do her route.
Right now.

Christian Green
Christian Green

Gonna need to finish Akiha's route first senpai. I just finished fucking her.

Connor Carter
Connor Carter

Is this the recommended route order?
Arcueid - Ciel - Akiha - Hisui - Kohaku

Samuel Martin
Samuel Martin

Yep, Near Side then Far Side.

Owen Edwards
Owen Edwards

you have to do arc or ciel before the last two, and hisui before kohaku

Jayden Ross
Jayden Ross

I'm sorry.

Asher Gonzalez
Asher Gonzalez

You should be user

Eli Fisher
Eli Fisher

This series is just a bad garden of sinners clonse.

Grayson Brown
Grayson Brown

thought Sup Forums was just memeing
watch Lunar Legend
it's the worst anime I've ever seen

They didn't even adapt the story as badly as DEEN stay night, but the entire series is people standing still and mumbling.

Did Sup Forums enjoy this before the VN was translated?

Hudson Peterson
Hudson Peterson

hating akiha
Why

Wyatt Lopez
Wyatt Lopez

Tsukihime for PC
https://mega.nz/#!Sc1kTCJJ!4g6VlGkdYCwrf-135A4XrAKEoMP8S8LhbvitJa0tyIc

Tsukihime on PSP
http://www.mediafire.com/download/kq8po91ynlwy2z2/Tsukihime.rar

Tsukihime Plus+Disc
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=453758

Tsukihime Fun Disc - Kagetsu Tohya
https://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=291819

Holy Grail 2.0 - Rips of Type-Moon's PC games by Keripo
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ

Nicholas Rogers
Nicholas Rogers

Is it a thing that to be part of the Church you need to have some favorite food you eat over everything
Kotomine eats mapo like it's water and probably drinks it out of wine cups
Ciel is the currymaster
Karen probably lops a pile of semen on top of everything before she eats it

Jason Moore
Jason Moore

http://pastebin.com/mF7ZrVhJ

Asher King
Asher King

Sup Forums wasn't around when it came out and I'm pretty sure nobody has ever liked that anime.

Ryder Carter
Ryder Carter

You sure about that?

http://strawpoll.me/7275804/

Jaxson Jenkins
Jaxson Jenkins

That doesn't look like the redesign but it looks touched up from the original?
Akiha top
YEEEE BOI

Logan Moore
Logan Moore

damn. Theres some great taste in that

John Green
John Green

there's a reason we pretend it doesn't exist

Michael Bennett
Michael Bennett

A very good reason

Kayden Cooper
Kayden Cooper

There are very few memes that last for a literal decade, and those memes usually have a basis of truth - same reason why we me'em on DEEN stay night, because it's fucking horrid.

Dominic Watson
Dominic Watson

Only good ero scenes Nasu ever wrote.

Connor Taylor
Connor Taylor

You mean mollusk scenes?

John Ortiz
John Ortiz

How're they going to make the Tsukihime thing all-ages?

Jaxon Lee
Jaxon Lee

Delete sex scenes.

Christopher Ortiz
Christopher Ortiz

Amazing insight but Kohaku's entire thing is being a sex slave and it's just not the same without RAPING THE MAIDS

Liam Bennett
Liam Bennett

You can still imply she was molested, just not show it.

Evan Lopez
Evan Lopez

True I guess
Personally never liked blatant H-scenes in stories, they just feel out of place for some reason. Fade to black works fine imo.

Isaac Williams
Isaac Williams

akiha has the most votes but is in third place

????

Easton Morales
Easton Morales

What about shiki rapemurdering arcueid?

not showing it makes the whole point about shiki getting a boner in spite of himself fall flat and with that the plot point

there's a lot of plot points or character development in the sex scenes, you can't just cut them like you can fate

Joseph Stewart
Joseph Stewart

No she isn't, what the fuck are you high on? Strawpoll doesn't re-order options like poal.me.

Justin Morales
Justin Morales

There will be slight changes. You can mention arousal and still be fine. You just cant say "his dick is hard" Also, which part are you referring to when you say "not showing it makes the whole point about shiki getting a boner in spite of himself fall flat and with that the plot point"

Jace Garcia
Jace Garcia

shiki sees SHIKI raping kohaku, gets excited and then feels crappy about it when he realizes what happened

that probably also happens to the player beat for beat because oh hey naked girl oh no sexual abuse

it's a way to make you relate to shiki on a really persona/meta level that simply can't be replicated by there being a text crawl of shiki describing in vague terms what he saw and what he felt

Charles Hughes
Charles Hughes

That scene will likely be changed. If not removed entirely. There are many ways you can relate to a character without getting or not getting a boner.

Mason Campbell
Mason Campbell

You can mention arousal and still be fine. You just cant say "his dick is hard"

which ruins the whole scene

it only works because it's so over the top, the extended "what do I want to do to her?" build up, the ridiculous description of how and where he cuts her into pieces, shiki rolling around in tons of blood and getting a big ol boner about it

it goes so far into edge territory and it's so sudden that it really sets the tone for the entire rest of the story about how fucked up things could be

If you're just going to rewrite everything, why even do a remake? You'll just piss off the fanbase you already have and you're not gonna attract any new ones because if you take the edge out of a vampire series you're left with something that appeals to nobody

Austin Scott
Austin Scott

Aoko tied 7th with Nanaya
Pottery

Zachary Allen
Zachary Allen

No, it doesnt ruin the whole scene. If you remove the big ol boner it still works. He can still want to cut her to pieces with tons of blood prime to roll around in. He can desire that. He can get really worked up about that. Wanting that is wrong. The disgust at going that far and desiring that is what we relate with and what sets the tone. Not the dick. Take a step back for a second and think about this. The message will stay the same, but the wording will change and they wont mention SEXUAL pleasure being derived from it. It still paints that insanity and it still is really fucking edgy. They wont "rewrite everything" either (hopefully) there have been plenty of non-18 plus remakes of things that work out just fine and cause no issues, have a little faith in the hack of a writer.

Asher Fisher
Asher Fisher

Deriving sexual pleasure from cutting someone up is significantly creepier than simply wanting to cut someone up. Imagine KOORU with a massive donger getting bigger and bigger every time he cuts open some kid.

James Powell
James Powell

Ill give that point, it is a little creepier, but the message isnt lost without it. Also, thats just hilarious. As he continues to kill, his pants can no longer contain his member and he begins to murder people with his schlong alone, spreading trails of white sticky cum to mark his prey

Cameron Reyes
Cameron Reyes

No, but I can't blame her. She was taken apart in every meaningful way. It's a wonder there was any part of her left capable of love.

Mason Collins
Mason Collins

It's been a decade

I still haven't touched currybutt route

Cameron James
Cameron James

Kohaku literally had nothing else to do, at that point she wasn't even doing it for revenge she was doing it because she thought it might be cool to do.

James Cooper
James Cooper

Kohaku is bad, Sakura is good
Why don't you just say you want a boring, soulless fuckdoll? It's obvious that's what you want.

Jacob Gonzalez
Jacob Gonzalez

...lad tbqh that description actually fits Kohaku better, and I'm a kohakufag.

Hudson Harris
Hudson Harris

i did.

soundtrack is nice.

Jayden Torres
Jayden Torres

Type-Moon fans, newbie here. What's so bad about Tsukihime anime adaptation? In what way is that different from the source material?

I'm thinking of watching it because of the VAs but from periphery glance a lot of people seem to shit on it.

Caleb Scott
Caleb Scott

I'm a huge Tsukihime fanboy, I just love the VN, the manga, and read them again quite often. Last time I wanted to watch the anime for the second time I dropped it during the first episode. Like other anons said, the music's good. Everything else is bad.

Alexander Ross
Alexander Ross

http://strawpoll.me/7275804/
I thought we'd only vote Tsukihime? Now I'm forced to vote best girl Sion over Kohaku.

Jaxon Rivera
Jaxon Rivera

Hisui True Ending > *

Camden Lopez
Camden Lopez

Takeuchi said that the violence alone will make 18+. Something like "It wouldn't be Tsukihime without bodies being rend open"

Dylan Wilson
Dylan Wilson

Good! He may be infected with the Sabervirus, but he's not completely insane yet.

Jack Roberts
Jack Roberts

Bad in what way? Does the anime change what makes the main characters main characters?

I know there is Shiki and Arcueid, do they still act like manga's Shiki and Arcueid or does everything about everything changed completely?

Elijah Martinez
Elijah Martinez

It's just generically bad. Fails to keep tension high, entire sections of character standing still and talking, no hook at all, etc.
Look at the Nero fight for the highest example of this. It's roughly 10 minutes of talking and 5 seconds of fight where Nero just kind of falls onto Shiki's knife then gives his 'oh you're my death' line, making him look exceptionally retarded.

Brody Price
Brody Price

No budget with bad character designs Nero 666 beasts are pretty much turned into Nero and his 5 dogs. Also the characters have no personality it also try's to add some ciel and Akiha stuff even worse than deen tried for fate also some filler I think.

Juan Wood
Juan Wood

You are doing this series a disservice
The climax of the ending is highly satisfying, and the bad ends near the end are particularly dramatic and well done

Benjamin Mitchell
Benjamin Mitchell

I still find it amazing that Arcueid stole Shiki in good end of Ciel route

Josiah Collins
Josiah Collins

Ciel simply cannot compete. Kind of sad for her.

In the Fate end where Saber sticks around, you know she won't be stealing Shirou from Rin.

Brayden Adams
Brayden Adams

Saber a shit though.

Lucas King
Lucas King

Rin really likes her though.

Jordan Barnes
Jordan Barnes

What's your point, Rin also likes OLD MEN OHOHOHO

Grayson Collins
Grayson Collins

You mean Rider, Luvia, Ayako and basically any really pretty girl

Landon Howard
Landon Howard

tfw Rin will never experiment with bestgirl

Chase Clark
Chase Clark

Jalter > Jeanne

Lucas Gomez
Lucas Gomez

80 minutes without a post
not dead thread
Was Sup Forums always this slow of a board

Nathaniel Wilson
Nathaniel Wilson

Somebody else already did with the Alter.

Dylan Reed
Dylan Reed

Brynhildr a slut but also a best

Angel Morgan
Angel Morgan

I think it was faster two years ago but it's been a while since thread could last as long as a few days. I've even see a Miuna Monday thread last a whole week.

Parker Brooks
Parker Brooks

Alter with Saber Alter is better.

Landon Jackson
Landon Jackson

tfw you lived long enough to see your first and favorite board start to die
N-no
implying
Saberfaces piss me off and versions of Arthur piss me off even more, the only good Arthur is tittyLancer

Kayden Martin
Kayden Martin

But you like Jeanne, right?

Logan Gray
Logan Gray

tfw you lived long enough to see your first and favorite board start to die
N-no
More like people are likely busy studying for finals

Levi Jackson
Levi Jackson

Jeanne is not quite a saberface even if she's super similar.

Camden Smith
Camden Smith

Tsukihime threads are also slower, usually.

Aaron Roberts
Aaron Roberts

Why was Jeanne shit again?
I forgot

Anthony Johnson
Anthony Johnson

I dunno, since when was she shit?
Maybe you need to fix your taste

Chase King
Chase King

post archetype earth

Hunter White
Hunter White

tfw you manage to goad your little brother into playing MB with you
tfw he tries out a few of the characters before settling on Arc and is confident about beating me because he's gud at fightan games and you're shit
tfw you pick Archetype Earth
No better feeling

Caleb Reed
Caleb Reed

Which Melty Blood should I play after Tsukihime?

Jack Ortiz
Jack Ortiz

KIMI TO

Cooper Miller
Cooper Miller

I remember her "good" ending being NTR and true being dead Shiki.

Ayden Powell
Ayden Powell

If only her route had lived up to its potential.
Best Tsukihime.

Jaxson Brown
Jaxson Brown

If want story do ReACT
And yes G Akiha having unlimited circuits is a bug

Kayden Wood
Kayden Wood

Good is harem, true is happy end iirc.

Luis Morris
Luis Morris

Why is she so awesome? Can't wait for her to show up in F/GO season 2 and wreck some shit up.

Jose Wilson
Jose Wilson

Different user but what about AACC on Steam? Is that not the latest updated version? Or is it more like a sequel and should be played after ReACT?

Easton Howard
Easton Howard

It's more like a sequel, and also the latest version.

Ryder Thompson
Ryder Thompson

F/GO
She'd be like
twenty star

Andrew Smith
Andrew Smith

Removing that aspect of the story would also remove the scene where Shiki displays his greatest insight.

Brayden Gomez
Brayden Gomez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eXaIMqpwYA

Christopher Lewis
Christopher Lewis

EX stats with rank EX anti planet NP

Colton Gutierrez
Colton Gutierrez

Try adding two more zeros to each stat and we'll talk.

Nathan Campbell
Nathan Campbell

i thought primate murder was the archetype of earth

Nathan Roberts
Nathan Roberts

Nah, play Melty Blood.

Jordan Bell
Jordan Bell

Something that is controlled by a vampire
Ultimate life form that wiped out everything else on Earth

Hunter Martinez
Hunter Martinez

The thing about Gaia is that there IS no TYPE-GAIA.

Eli Ward
Eli Ward

I just see it as High Budget fanfiction. It had good music tho.

Jackson Cruz
Jackson Cruz

It's just a title, no point to get so hung up on it. Even the Moon Cell was called Type Moon.

Cooper Cruz
Cooper Cruz

le average anime face

Matthew Ward
Matthew Ward

Nah I meant as in, the whole point of Archetype Earth being called Archetype Earth is that it isn't actually Type-Earth.

Ayden Bailey
Ayden Bailey

Except we don't know that. You can use that same logic for the Moon Cell, but it's still Type Moon in the Extra timeline.

Hunter Reyes
Hunter Reyes

If you want to play the story mode play MB ReACT. If you want to play arcade play AACC on Steam

Lucas Garcia
Lucas Garcia

Why can't servants kill Types?

Evan Peterson
Evan Peterson

Types don't die when you kill them.

William Cooper
William Cooper

If she showed up they'd probably severely nerf her severely like they did with beserker arc

Daniel Martin
Daniel Martin

So Type Saturn isn't really dead?

Actually better yet, where can I read these extra materials because most of this is just stuff I'm spouting from other threads in the past

Landon Campbell
Landon Campbell

Servants are usually late mid game bosses
TYPEs are secret post game bosses

Isaac Sullivan
Isaac Sullivan

Probably has to do with TYPES not even being able to die.

Chase Wilson
Chase Wilson

servants only role in life is to job & be physically attractive

Dylan Carter
Dylan Carter

Rekt. Servants a shit.

Cameron Nelson
Cameron Nelson

"Death" does not exist for a Type. Their bodies can be destroyed by overwhelming force, but then you just get something like V/V or the fragment of Brunestud that still exists in Arcueid's (and, before they all died, the rest of the True Ancestors) mind

Benjamin Robinson
Benjamin Robinson

She looks like she'd be extremely comfortable to spoon with

Caleb Cooper
Caleb Cooper

"Death" does not exist for a Type.
I'm pretty sure it technically does isofar as if you destroy the planet they represent, they're done.

Sebastian Martin
Sebastian Martin

Let's be honest, almost any Nasuverse girl would be pretty comfy.
Who /gudako/ here

Daniel Rodriguez
Daniel Rodriguez

While that is PROBABLY true, we don't yet have conclusive evidence that's the case.

The planet is in really bad shape in Extra, yet Arcueid is just as powerful as ever when she isn't forced into a Servant container.

Cameron Bell
Cameron Bell

I forget the details, but wasn't it specifically Alaya that was getting taken apart in Extra as opposed to Gaia?

Jaxson Wright
Jaxson Wright

tfw I'm apparently the only one who /gudako/
All to myself I guess

Dominic Nguyen
Dominic Nguyen

Nah, I'll take her too. She's a qt.

Eli Barnes
Eli Barnes

You'll have to whale for her first

Jaxon Lopez
Jaxon Lopez

I can understand the bottom two belts
But what's the point of the top belt? It seems like it's expressly to make her tits pop out a little more.

Isaiah Bailey
Isaiah Bailey

It seems like it's expressly to make her tits pop out a little more

Yes, and?

Aaron Gonzalez
Aaron Gonzalez

why tho

Leo Ross
Leo Ross

Nah fuck off bitch

Colton Johnson
Colton Johnson

Sweater Puppies

Nathaniel Barnes
Nathaniel Barnes

RIP Americas

Parker Anderson
Parker Anderson

Sluts

Alexander Adams
Alexander Adams

Probably noy. By that logic a Type would have a heart attack while flying in space.

Nicholas Cook
Nicholas Cook

What is this from?

Parker Bell
Parker Bell

By that logic a Type would have a heart attack while flying in space
What
TYPES are supposed to be the manifestation of the planet itself, if you completely obliterated the thing they represent they'd probably just be dead.

Oliver Sanchez
Oliver Sanchez

What is this from?

Nolan Nelson
Nolan Nelson

/wsr/

Jose Gray
Jose Gray

So are you saying a Type would have a heart attack if you kill their planet even if the Type is on another solar system? That's retarded, stop trying to pass your own assumptions as fact.

Jaxon Reyes
Jaxon Reyes

That actually sounds about fucking right actually, it's not actually that outlandish when you consider all the other shit that goes on in Nasuverse. I wasn't passing it as fact but I'd say that the logic of the definition of a TYPE sort of implies it to be true so it's my best guess.

Justin Cox
Justin Cox

It's more likely that a Type would just cease to exist entirely, rather than keel over dead. Because even then, a Type wouldn't die in the same way a person or an animal dies; it's a fundamentally alien existence that's probably not tied to Akasha like humans are.

Easton Powell
Easton Powell

Types are their planets brains and terraform their environments, so ORT won't die while being on Earth even if youd estroy Mercury because due to ORT's power he is already standing on Mercury. This is better supported than your explanation.

Gabriel Green
Gabriel Green

It simply overrides Gaia's reality marble though, unless you're saying that without ORT being on Mercury Mercury no longer has a reality marble.

Kayden Parker
Kayden Parker

It effectively makes the ground ORT is standing Mercury or an extension of ORT.

Logan Taylor
Logan Taylor

I don't know man
Gaia can actually be killed and exactly that is what happens in notes, so I don't see why theoretically you couldn't kill Mercury or Jupiter.

Anthony Thompson
Anthony Thompson

It's possible that the only reason we're even able to kill Gaia in the first place is because we come from Gaia. And even then it takes millennia.

Carter Cruz
Carter Cruz

I'm saying it's debatable whether ORT would die if Mercury is destroyed while ORT already terraformed another planet.

Colton Hall
Colton Hall

I'd imagine it's significantly weakened at the very least since 'Mercury' now consists of a small section of terraformed rainforest.

Hunter Collins
Hunter Collins

tfw when binged through tsukihime, kt, f/sn, f/ha and then carnival

I'm pretty empty now how can I fill the void

Andrew Adams
Andrew Adams

Sounds like you're still missing Melty Blood.
There's a story mode in ReACT and mini-story modes for each character in arcade mode.

James Cooper
James Cooper

grand order

Eli Gonzalez
Eli Gonzalez

First played/ read Tsukihime as a High School freshman.

Just about the only thing I don't regret from that time is thinking Ciel is bestgirl since that remains true to this day

Zachary Murphy
Zachary Murphy

So I am only one that got on Ciel route on first play through even though I tried for Arcueid one?

Levi Allen
Levi Allen

Yeah i played the ReACT story but the main route wasn't that great. I like fighting games but fighting through the CPU for the arcade stories is a snoozefest

Mah nigga

Gabriel Green
Gabriel Green

The funny part was that Shiki was constantly talking about tea room even though first time he got inside was when he got killed by SHIKI

Dominic James
Dominic James

Arc is so wonderful bros

Anthony Wilson
Anthony Wilson

Stop, all girls are good.

Jaxon Jenkins
Jaxon Jenkins

Even Yumizuka?

Caleb Cook
Caleb Cook

mfw almost 3 day old Tsukihime thread

Carson Johnson
Carson Johnson

the fuck's wrong with you

Kevin Ross
Kevin Ross

are you implying something

Austin Ross
Austin Ross

Who?

Jack Hughes
Jack Hughes

Isn't it sad?

Kayden Johnson
Kayden Johnson

who the fuck is that?

Brayden Flores
Brayden Flores

I did because I like ciel more than Arc, from first impression

Justin Parker
Justin Parker

How does Ciel give better first impression than Arcueid?
Do you like blue hair or what

Caleb Peterson
Caleb Peterson

Not him, but when I first played I wanted to do Akiha's route first. Why? Because I thought she was cute and I like the calm/non violent Tsunderes (also black hair is my kryptonite). Then I found out that I had to do first Arcueid or Ciel.

The moral of the story is that it will always come down to who you find more attractive first.

Brayden Williams
Brayden Williams

Arche doesn't mean what you think it means. Earth could not make a Type on its own. The True Ancestors had to make it for her (CM built them with Gaia before in turn).
ArcheType basically means de facto Type. Arcueid already has Gaia able to hijack her body.

Adam Price
Adam Price

Yeah, so it ain't actually a proper TYPE-GAIA.

Carter Robinson
Carter Robinson

That still pisses me off after 3 years. I played Ciel rout first because muh glasses-senpai and ended up hating arcueid by the end. I was so happy that she fucked off in the true end, but the good end ruined my mood that day and every other day I remember it. The true end is my good end /a/non

Asher Lewis
Asher Lewis

It's all speculation. She could easily be an higher existence than a Type, a snowflaked Type if you will. Like Archmagus is superior to a magus.

James Green
James Green

Ciel is a shit tho

Brody Cook
Brody Cook

I wanted to do Kohaku route first. Little did I know she was lucky to even have a route.

Brandon Clark
Brandon Clark

Man, doing Kohaku route would suck horribly
Would player even understand anything?

Elijah Jackson
Elijah Jackson

post nuns

Hudson Howard
Hudson Howard

Why is Caren so based?

Evan Collins
Evan Collins

So can we agree that Warcueid ending in ReACT is pretty great?

Samuel Bennett
Samuel Bennett

Why isn't she wearing any pants or skirt?

Luis Rodriguez
Luis Rodriguez

I don't see how the word based really describes her tbqfh

Camden Gutierrez
Camden Gutierrez

Macross thread?

Joshua Garcia
Joshua Garcia

Because she is a slut.

Cameron Adams
Cameron Adams

It reminds me of what TM threads were like 5 years ago, in a good way

Jonathan Foster
Jonathan Foster

Because her job literally involves getting other people hard and her experiencing sexual pleasure from nearby evulz.

Robert Morris
Robert Morris

He's writing a story set in Japan, so he has to use that phrase constantly. It can't be helped.

Hudson Harris
Hudson Harris

Because CAREN ORTENSIA PLEASES SINNERS FOR JESUS OHOHOHOHOHO

Liam Garcia
Liam Garcia

Megane Onee-san type character who it seems will give me friendly tension with Arihiko compared to Ditz Onee-san who I murdered and then apologized to. Plus Arc gave off a giant "Main Girl" vibe, which puts me off because I like to collect all the side stuff first.

Liam Wilson
Liam Wilson

Read the MB manga adaptations. MB Act 2 is particularly fun.

Jaxon Thompson
Jaxon Thompson

Does MB manga cover the full game story?

Easton Lee
Easton Lee

Probably only near side

Wyatt Jackson
Wyatt Jackson

I did too.

Though I'd say I didn't like her or her route after I read the rest.

Hunter Walker
Hunter Walker

Id say other routes were better but I still think Ciel route is really good. The dream sequence at the end was the only I time I ever teared up from a type-moon thingy

Angel Taylor
Angel Taylor

Arc casually consent to polygamy
Ciel harem end best end.

John Moore
John Moore

dream sequence at the end
Yes, and I contradict myself.

I did say I didn't like her nor her route. But desu, as much as I don't want to admit it, shiki's thoughts and monologues in her route were exactly like my circumstances at the time.

In short, I hated it because it slapped me in the face.

Meanwhile, kohaku END got me by the dick.

Zachary Green
Zachary Green

When we get CCCaster integrated into the Steam Melty version we should play again Sup Forums

Elijah Lee
Elijah Lee

That's only gonna happen months from now, there is nothing wrong with just playing on CCCaster right now. Plus posting ips is a more meaningful bump

I remember the melty threads on /v/ a month ago. Good times

Noah Bailey
Noah Bailey

Can Shiki kill servant?

Luis Reed
Luis Reed

That's true, it's not like the CP version out now is that different.

Tsukihime remake never. Melty Blood HD never.

Carter Cooper
Carter Cooper

Shit taste

Daniel Kelly
Daniel Kelly

https://discordapp.com/invite/0TJ5ma4C19VUCEeV
Get in fags

Gabriel Wood
Gabriel Wood

No

Evan Evans
Evan Evans

Fuck you, do it. Even Australia and NZ managed to get together 7 people in there. More if you include OCE. There'll be enough people for you to constantly melty, due to y'know meetmeinmelty kinda being dead.

Christian Hughes
Christian Hughes

Is this the new Mizuumi IRC?

Jacob Thompson
Jacob Thompson

Pretty much, yeah.

Kayden Cox
Kayden Cox

Post your favorite FSN route and your favorite Tsukihime route.

FSN: fate route
Tsukihime: Hisui

Caleb Roberts
Caleb Roberts

Saberfag and Hisuifag
Makes sense. At least you're kinda consistent.

Lucas Rogers
Lucas Rogers

Heaven's Feel and Kohaku?

Angel Evans
Angel Evans

A new standard for pleb taste has been set

Logan Lopez
Logan Lopez

Not bad.

Logan White
Logan White

UBW
True Ciel

But best girl is still Hisui

Dominic Rivera
Dominic Rivera

F/SN: Can't decide. Probably HF, but Saber's still best girl.

Tsukihime: Akiha, both her route and as best girl.

Nathan Young
Nathan Young

Man I want to say HF but True ending ruined it for me. Felt cheap after hour after hour of despair

Benjamin Barnes
Benjamin Barnes

Tsukihime : Ciel
Fate : Heaven's Feel

Dylan Gonzalez
Dylan Gonzalez

nun
thong

Juan Clark
Juan Clark

I hate Fate so I won't comment on it.
In Tsukihime Near Side Ciel is better, but on far side Hisui is better.

David Garcia
David Garcia

hate Fate
like Tsukihime
how
they are literally the same shit

Ayden Sanchez
Ayden Sanchez

HF Normal/UB True tie
Akiha True/Eclipse
Crimson Red Demon God/

Michael Roberts
Michael Roberts

Shirou and Shiki swap VNs and are now the MC in the other's VN.
What happens?

Easton Walker
Easton Walker

How much of it changes? Does he still summon Arturia or does that change as well because he doesn't have Avalon?

Charles Richardson
Charles Richardson

Far side > near side (even though Arc is damn near perfect).

Hisui > Arc > Ciel = Akiha >>> Whorehaku.

Jeremiah Fisher
Jeremiah Fisher

Did that thing even use ammo?

Jaxson Taylor
Jaxson Taylor

Shirou gets killed by Nero.
Shiki either dies to Lancer and isn't resurrected by Rin, or kills him with MEoDP and his Nanaya instincts (stats be damned, Shirou is a normal human and goes toe to toe with servants and is capable of trading blows for a short while with Dark Arturia and others, Shiki is an incest super-babby who can run on the ceiling) and then meets Ilya on the way back from Kotomine. Really he probably does fairly well up until Caster or Bellepheron due to having an ace in the hole most servants won't really think to dodge, which allows him to assassinate them while they're fighting saber.

Alexander Long
Alexander Long

But user
Shiki can't kill servants

Jason Smith
Jason Smith

The real question is what Shiki would summon

Luis Fisher
Luis Fisher

first skype, then teamspeak, then mumble, now this. How many fuckign chat program do I need to download.

Eli Edwards
Eli Edwards

The conceptual armament that Ciel is authorized to carry. Although it is called a scripture, it's actually an enormous pile bunker.
An iron hammer created by the Church in order to renounce the heretical doctrine of transmigration. Over a millennium has passed since it was first forged, and there's even an elemental dwelling within it, but…
Before Ciel remodeled it, it was only effective against spiritual entities. Now, however, it has been transformed into a lump of iron that can pound a vampire to death with its physical attack power alone. It has a gross weight of 60 kilograms, and a maximum weight of twice that with optional attachments.
During Ciel's Arc Drive, she drives the stake into her opponent. Afterward, what is ejected from the magazine is not an empty cartridge, but pages of the holy scripture. For vampires, this is no different from being directly injected with the holy scripture itself. There is no doubt that it is a surefire "Immortal Killer".
Looking at Full Moon P.Ciel in Melty, "optional attachments" are gatling gun and grenade launcher

Thomas Turner
Thomas Turner

He probably can on a good day. Remember he was faster than Nrvnqsr on 999 mode.

Juan Ross
Juan Ross

Gadu-Gadu

Jaxson Young
Jaxson Young

Fate: Ending and Climax, Fate. Everything else, HF (overall story).
Tsukihime: Hisui.

Jason Stewart
Jason Stewart

F/SN: UBW true
Tsukihime: Hisui true

Cameron Stewart
Cameron Stewart

Funny Vamp Arc o0f course.

Adrian Campbell
Adrian Campbell

The only artifact I could think of would be his knife that he keeps on hand or his sensei glasses, but neither Aoko nor any of the nanayas we know about qualify to be a servant.

Zachary Richardson
Zachary Richardson

this thread is nearly 3 days old

Nicholas James
Nicholas James

Yeah and the two-day-old kumoko thread died when I woke up.

Ethan Gray
Ethan Gray

Now that grand order is a thing, literally anyone can be a servant.

Zachary Bell
Zachary Bell

GO still has mostly legit servants though, even Kiritsugu is technically just another and even edgier Red Man.

Brody Phillips
Brody Phillips

Billy the Kid and Mata Hari shows that now only fame is required to be a "legit" servant. There's also some dumb reasons like the one for Ryougi

Benjamin Foster
Benjamin Foster

Ryougi is in because she's best girl.
Is Akiha or whoever famous among the plebs though? It can't be only famous among mages.

Justin Price
Justin Price

Haven't we known that since avenger?

Bentley Wilson
Bentley Wilson

UBW and ciel

fate and tsukihime are superficially the same but the details are way different

Gavin Sanders
Gavin Sanders

Is there even route in which Shirou would survive?

Jack Martin
Jack Martin

Sacchin route.

Dominic Rodriguez
Dominic Rodriguez

Thinking about it, what servant types would any tsukihime character even qualify for?

the only ones that really come to mind are aoko caster, ciel as a bunch of things and I guess a nanaya assassin

I can see him doing good in akiha route

He might do maid routes fine too assuming the character relationships are otherwise the same so kohaku doesn't just poison him to death

Jeremiah Rivera
Jeremiah Rivera

From the description of Sacchin route it looks that he would be utterly fucked. It supposed to be Shiki and Sacchin vs everyone with Nero and Roa joining forces

Lincoln Russell
Lincoln Russell

I'm pretty sure that was a joke because like

how the fuck do they win that one?

Austin Evans
Austin Evans

Shiki goes mind of steel and Sacchin unlocks her RM

Christian Myers
Christian Myers

If that were possible he'd win in one day.

Christopher Ross
Christopher Ross

Arc helps them.

Adam Nguyen
Adam Nguyen

If Arc gave him something of hers then he'd be set.

Christian Smith
Christian Smith

V. Akiha Berserker although she'd probably be rather weak. Kohaku Caster if take her mad scientist jig as legit.

Sebastian Roberts
Sebastian Roberts

Unlimited
Rape
Works

Charles Gutierrez
Charles Gutierrez

I don;t think Crimson Moon is in Throne of Heroes

Adam Garcia
Adam Garcia

Her virginity counts?

Camden Miller
Camden Miller

What classes would arcueid even count for besides berserker? Do claws count as sabers? Her cameo in that game implyied that making her berserker was a stuid idea like herk but I dunno what else unless you go into archetype stuff

Thinking about it berserker akiha could be pretty good actually, she sort of has instant death eyes with whatever the fuck her power is, the only reason she struggles against the shiki's is because physically she's just a little girl

in a berserker boosted container she wouldn't have this so she could just chimp out on everyone

Alexander Sanders
Alexander Sanders

Twilight for boys.

Congratulations, you fell in love with female Edward, fatty.

Sebastian Turner
Sebastian Turner

I thought scott pilgrim was twilight for boys

Grayson Cook
Grayson Cook

Akiha can plunder shit
Things like SHIKIs connection to Shiki for example

Jordan Jones
Jordan Jones

Yeah now that you said that I remember it, it's been a while since I read those scenes.

In that case I can only continue to agree that berserker akiha would be pretty awesome, she could just plunder attributes from other servants

Bentley Hall
Bentley Hall

Arc is probably Assassin since it seems that most people who fight barehanded are either Assassins or Berserkers. Berserker Arc is just WArc anyway.
The best part about VAkiha Berserker is the mana transfer
Ryougi shouldn't be either and Tamamo is a literal deity but gets summoned anyway
female Edward
Except neither Shiki nor Arc are stus
Pretty strong gimmick I guess. What would her NP be though? Would she just not have an active one like Heracles?

Luis Hill
Luis Hill

Rider's most coherent shtick is that she's afraid of becoming a monster. From a narrative point of view, she's perfect.

Owen Bennett
Owen Bennett

Arc is probably Assassin since it seems that most people who fight barehanded are either Assassins or Berserkers.
assassins also have babby stats though, and while I guess she's an assassin of dead apostles she doesn't use stealth at all, she just semi-randomly wanders around until she finds them and then blows up the entire area

I could see ciel as an assassin easily, but not arc

Isaiah Allen
Isaiah Allen

Doesn't Li Shuwen have good stats? I forget

Henry Sullivan
Henry Sullivan

both have mystic eyes

it's like poetry, they rhyme

Dylan Rivera
Dylan Rivera

To be honest it's because you need to summon Arc as a servant due to the system but she doesn't really fit, sort of like Gilgamesh. To actually play with Arc at full capacity you need to summon her as just Arcueid.

Brayden Peterson
Brayden Peterson

shinji is basically shiki without any of the redeeming qualities or talent, I'd buy it.

I haven't read fate in a while, how does gil not really fit the system? Just because he's so strong? I thought the whole thing was that as the king of heroes he can just count under any category because he did all that shit first

Sebastian Ortiz
Sebastian Ortiz

It covers Night on the Blood Lair which is the important route. Act 2 covers a joke route, and X a drama CD.

There's that new BAA manga, but I haven't looked much into it since the first chapter.

And if you want, there's Hana no Miyako too. But to be honest it isn't that good and it's probably the reason behind its cancellation. It's still going as a doujin though, but it's advancing at snail pace.

Oliver Flores
Oliver Flores

Oh god, just imagine mana transfer. Two S "fight" for dominance.

Charles Gomez
Charles Gomez

It's the reason why he gets summoned under the special Gilgamesh class in Extra CCC, he's so fuckhuge as an entity the container simply can't hold him in its entirety. that sounds lewd as fuck but whateveer

Lucas Nelson
Lucas Nelson

shinji is basically shiki without any of the redeeming qualities or talent, I'd buy it.

First son of a noble household but not the heir (who is instead his non-blood related sister)
Has a blue theme and is in a insult filled but secretly rather devoted friendship with a guy with a red theme
Is a nice guy with a strong sense of justice, particularly towards women when he isn't going into crazy rapist mode

How did I never realize this all this time, everyone in fate really is just tsukihime characters thrown into a blender aren't they?

Christopher Watson
Christopher Watson

No shit, Rin is basically Akiha.

David Wilson
David Wilson

Shinji really SHOULD be the heir though, while Akiha is the legit heir if you don't count SHIKI.
But a thousand times worse.

Noah Gutierrez
Noah Gutierrez

If the dream segments are anything to go by, shiki would end up losing

Jacob Rogers
Jacob Rogers

I don't think it really counts
Only thing different from Kohaku one is that she's masturbating instead of staring

Ian Stewart
Ian Stewart

Kohaku is pretty creepy.

Asher Long
Asher Long

Or just summon Arc as Berserker and give her EX rank mad enhancement. Problem solved.

Joseph Hill
Joseph Hill

Yeah but that doesn't really capture Arc now does it

Caleb White
Caleb White

Yeah but understandably so.

Adam Carter
Adam Carter

I don't really follow what you're saying.

What I'm getting at is that in all the len induced sex dreams shiki is unable to move while whatever thing happens to him, and while he complains at first after a while he's into it

Lincoln Rogers
Lincoln Rogers

You'd have to be a massive faggot not to like Arc riding your dick

Landon Perry
Landon Perry

EX ME allows her to think, which was the biggest problem with being Berserker in Extra.

Nolan Clark
Nolan Clark

I'm talking more about stuff that ciel and especially kohaku do

Isaac Fisher
Isaac Fisher

No you don't get it
I'm saying that the servant system wouldn't be able to really hold Arc in the same way it's unable to hold Gilgamesh besides Nasu's massive boner for him

Henry White
Henry White

How about this then

Shiki stalks arcueid and stabs her what good, however due to chaos theory in this multiverse he also takes something of hers from her and, since he has magic circuts, accidentally uses that to summon arcueid into a servant container (which works because she was in the middle of remaking her body and thus was even weaker than arcueid usually is in tsukihime)

Leo Collins
Leo Collins

Uhhh
You know what
It sounds delusional enough to be a thing

Nathan Garcia
Nathan Garcia

Kohaku one was the best.

Daniel Baker
Daniel Baker

How is this thread still up?

Sebastian Brown
Sebastian Brown

writing in the nasuverse is easy, you just come up with something that sounds really complicated but actually falls apart if you think about it in any real detail

Cooper Parker
Cooper Parker

magic

Julian Green
Julian Green

Implying Roa didn't take hers

Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright

Arc love.

Aiden Walker
Aiden Walker

arc took HIS purity, not the other way around

Anthony Lewis
Anthony Lewis

OP here, this is the longest time one of my threads have lasted. I'm still surprised myself.

Owen Nelson
Owen Nelson

UBW
Kohaku

Hunter Reed
Hunter Reed

oh shit I've forgotten most of it, which routes should I replay? I'll read about the rest on the wiki

Christian Wilson
Christian Wilson

Make another one, bump limit soon.

Jackson Bailey
Jackson Bailey

Generals are cancerous you fuck.

Brandon White
Brandon White

This thread was 100x better than shit like ReZero threads so whatever

Jace Ward
Jace Ward

Because it's not a general. If you want to see these threads turn to shit then all you have to do is keep one up constantly.

Caleb Allen
Caleb Allen

Good thread and good taste my man.

May T/M bless us with the remake. Some day.

Cooper Bailey
Cooper Bailey

neither Shiki nor Arc are stus
Arguable.

Bentley Hughes
Bentley Hughes

arguable
Shiki is dysfunctional as fuck, schizo as fuck and has random I WILL KILL fits, and Arc is clueless about everything and near-helpless for most of the story with an encroaching KILLKILLKILLDRINKDRINKDRINK instinct. Neither of them are stus.

Chase Phillips
Chase Phillips

Shiki has a genuinely awful life outside of all the vagina he keeps tripping over and arcueid in the ciel route shows she can be a pretty terrible person

Jace Gonzalez
Jace Gonzalez

Arc is not a person.

Daniel Lewis
Daniel Lewis

So can we all agree that murder boner is best boner?

Daniel Cruz
Daniel Cruz

Wouldn't this actually be a really strong pairing? All of her abilities focus on preventing people from moving, making them perfect fodder for shiki to stab their lines while sidestepping the whole "how does shiki get close to a servant to stab them without instantly getting killed" part of the debate.

strong thematically, strong in a fight and rider herself hits a lot of shiki's buttons, seems like a 10/10 pairing to me

Jack Foster
Jack Foster

Couldn't Shiki just sit tight on Pegasus and get close that way

Cameron Scott
Cameron Scott

Can't rider only ride on peagasus because she has both servant riding skill AND the special saddle?

Jayden James
Jayden James

Even Arc while under moon has lines
It's just that they are fucking small and she can move

Michael Myers
Michael Myers

Arc did literally nothing wrong in Ciel's route.

Isaiah Price
Isaiah Price

Checked.
Archetype Earth as I recall actually doesn't have lines or dots at all, even under Ryougi's gaze.

Luke Price
Luke Price

She doesn't have lines when she is not weakened from having being killed.

Carson Brown
Carson Brown

Besides losing her shit and becoming a monster because she's jealous in the path to the true ending, you mean?

Luis Brooks
Luis Brooks

Thanks! Arcueid is definitely Best TM character!

But I don't like her new redesign for the remake

Colton Allen
Colton Allen

But I don't like her new redesign for the remake
Does anyone?

Luke Rivera
Luke Rivera

because she's jealous

You mean because Shiki severed her neck, the entire reason she went berserk.

Lincoln Lee
Lincoln Lee

Which shiki only did because aruceid held him down and basically said "join up with me or else"

Jayden Gutierrez
Jayden Gutierrez

You do realize if Shiki chooses to obey Arcueid you get the good ending in which everyone is happy, right?

Mason Jones
Mason Jones

I mean, kinda? You can read that whole thing as arcueid just biding her time or you can read it as a betty/veronica thing

Either way thats after she's had time to calm down, at that moment shiki has no real reason to assume arcueid isn't serious about that shit right then and there.

It's an interesting dynamic to have the "main girl" actually be sort of the antagonist in another route, because on top of this stuff arcueid is responsible for shit getting so crazy in the second half of ciel route in the first place because she kills SHIKI instead of shiki so roa just moves onto another host instead of disappearing

Ian Cruz
Ian Cruz

The two things that can happen are Shiki saying no and cutting her neck OR Shiki just saying no. The latter leads to the good end.

Noah Reed
Noah Reed

Shiki has a genuinely awful life
How is that untypical for a gary stu? Actually the tragic life/backstory is part of the trope.
Shiki is dysfunctional as fuck, schizo as fuck and has random I WILL KILL fits
Those things are explained in the story and not necessarily his own fault though.

Andrew Jones
Andrew Jones

How is that untypical for a gary stu?
The part where tsukihime ends with shiki admitting he's most likely gonna die within the next year or two

Levi James
Levi James

The true ending happens because Shiki was unable to trust Arcueid. In the good ending he remembers the times he spent with her and came to the conclusion that Arcueid would never lie to him, so he chooses to follow her plan which gets you the best ending possible in that route.

Arcueid is a genuinely good girl, it's just her bloodlust that makes her come up as psychotic at times, which is why she hates that aspect of her so much.

James Flores
James Flores

Those things are explained in the story and not necessarily his own fault though.
Irrelevant, a Stu is a character presented as perfect and incapable of fault. That's why Edward and Bella are hated, because even when they're wrong they're fucking right (and because it reads like a bad fanfiction from some edgy teenage girl)

Xavier Hernandez
Xavier Hernandez

How is that untypical for a gary stu?
Gary Stus are perfect in every way, and their life universally stops being shit (on the surface i.e. nothing is happening to them anymore) by the start of the story. ONIISAMA is perfect in every way but he suffers a little under the surface, but bad shit isn't happening to him on a regular basis because he's perfect and would've prevented bad stuff.

Liam Jenkins
Liam Jenkins

Arcueid is a genuinely good girl
I don't disagree here, you don't need to defend your waifu that hard.

It just seems to me that since shiki doesn't spend as much time with arcueid in ciel route, she still doesn't quite "get" emotions and acts way more unbalanced

Ethan Long
Ethan Long

And because of that, she acts like a spoiled brat when she doesn't get what she wants. Her attitude and the way she views shiki as just another possession still pisses me off. Arcueid ruined Ciel's good end and I hate her for it

Wyatt Ward
Wyatt Ward

The life of a Stu doesn't necessarily have to be perfect.
You can self-insert into a tragic story just as well as long as you can see yourself either as the tragic hero or victim.
The point of a Stu is essentially that they're idealized in a way that would make people want to imagine that they are like that too.
Arcueid obviously an idealized character being the Otaku's wet dream that she is.
As for Shiki, even when turning insane (not to his own faul) he always keeps some of his humanity and is often willing to sacrifice himself for others.

Gavin Russell
Gavin Russell

That's not what a Stu is.

Jace Perez
Jace Perez

Are you actually saying that a well written character cannot be anything that the reader may want to be?

Austin Hall
Austin Hall

Why would I want to be shiki? He has like one friend, magical super cancer, mediocre grades, no future or hobbies, doesn't have any of the benefits of being part of a rich family and is in a minefield of crazy bitches that are very willing to murder each-other if he pays attention to one too much over the others

Ethan Rogers
Ethan Rogers

The life of a Stu doesn't necessarily have to be perfect.
But it does. A Stu can have a shit life at some point, but that is always just foreshadowing for him having much greater fortune in the future. Moreover, whatever tragedy struck the Stu, it must also makes his life better in the end in some way or be presented as something that paints those who did it to him as absolutely evil to paint him as a better person.

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