Re:Zero

Justin Harris
Justin Harris

The show is getting better but it really needs to address some things.

Who is Subaru?
I don’t recall the show telling me anything other than he’s a gamer from the real world. That’s literally it. I could replace him with some homeless guy and the story would be the same.
If you don't want him to be a blank self-insert, you have to tell me who he is. Say he lost his family in an earthquake and that’s why he cares so much about the people he interacts with in this world. Otherwise he's just another character who heroines love because he's "kind".

How Is This Satire?
Some people have been saying that the author hates LNs and that Re:Zero is supposed to be his deconstruction. But it's not really that good at it.
First, few of these tropes are exclusive to LNs. “Trapped in a fantasy world” and “time loops” can be found from Chronicles of Narnia to Tom Cruise's newest scifi film.
Second, being edgy with your tropes for the sake of shock value is older than Evangelion, and mainstream is becoming edgier anyway.
Third, meta-humor is a big problem with WNs but gets played straight. Most conversations revolve around pointing out how genre-aware the protagonist is about everything, or else it just turns into tsukkomi style pointing everything out.

Why Would Anyone Want To Save These Maids?
Subaru has only known them for nine days, which is barely enough to form an attachment that can survive attempted murder.
The maids have only been horrible to him, and murder is not a reasonable response to a suspicion regarding a vague threat that has yet to be clarified. Killing someone for smelling funny is considered a hate crime in most countries.
Subaru, even with the time loops, has only known for about nine days. There comes a point when you push a man’s goodwill too far and you start to think he’s just mad for continuing to hold on. If the writer killed Emilia instead at least I would have bought Subaru caring for her considering his interactions with her were romantic.

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Liam White
Liam White

But Subaru has crippling depression so his actions are justified.

Anthony Williams
Anthony Williams

Reminder that we get 3 weeks no ep because of fucking tennis

Adrian Jackson
Adrian Jackson

I could replace him with some homeless guy and the story would be the same.
No it wouldn't.
You are ignoring large quantities of characterization because it smells of "nice"ness to you.

How Is This Satire?
deconstruction.
Satire and deconstruction are not the same thing. The fact that it subverts tropes and pokes fun at them makes it a satire. The fact that most anime in this genre do it means that this characteristic is nothing special to be pointed out.

Subaru has only known them for nine days, which is barely enough to form an attachment that can survive attempted murder.
If you say so.

Killing someone for smelling funny is considered a hate crime in most countries.
But that wasn't the point.

Nicholas Reyes
Nicholas Reyes

Why are the drills so bouncy? Hair doesn't work like that.

Nathaniel Reed
Nathaniel Reed

He has daddy issues OP so anything he does gets a free pass

Christopher Martinez
Christopher Martinez

characterization because it smells of "nice"ness to you
Niceness and boke is no longer acceptable characterization when every MC is a nice boke.

John Nelson
John Nelson

Why did Emilia tell Subaru her name was Satella the first time around?

Jaxson Martin
Jaxson Martin

Because that was probably Satella

Jason Johnson
Jason Johnson

All of this has been explained by several other anons countless times, so I'm just gonna call b8.

Kayden Powell
Kayden Powell

Subaru has only known them for nine days, which is barely enough to form an attachment that can survive attempted murder.
The maids have only been horrible to him, and murder is not a reasonable response to a suspicion regarding a vague threat that has yet to be clarified. Killing someone for smelling funny is considered a hate crime in most countries.
Subaru, even with the time loops, has only known for about nine days. There comes a point when you push a man’s goodwill too far and you start to think he’s just mad for continuing to hold on. If the writer killed Emilia instead at least I would have bought Subaru caring for her considering his interactions with her were romantic.

From what I see you're calling Subaru an idiot and calling this bad writing while also being unable to do a simple math problem that an 8 year old can do.

4 loops for 4 days. Considering that the 4th loop was almost 5 full days, he's been at the mansion for nearly 17 days. I won't tell you anything else since it's no use to reason with idiots.

Daniel Turner
Daniel Turner

I hope this doesn't become another copypasta.
I don’t recall the show telling me anything other than he’s a gamer from the real world.
From what I hear, you learn more later. My guess is that his job is basically to look and act like any other Otaku NEET comedic protagonist, at least in the beginning. From his actions, we can discern that he's a desperate and clingy loser with no real self-esteem.

He grows attached to some random girl who he just met after she was nice to him for a day or so, to the point where he's willing to sacrifice himself for her. This might be typical for any anime protagonist, but the situation with the maids just adds additional context. That level of sacrifice for strangers, some who only pretended to be nice, isn't exactly the best sign of a healthy mind.

I wouldn't be surprised if Subaru was already a bit suicidal at the start, but too scared to actually go through with that sort of thing. It's a deconstruction in part because we can see that this happy-go-lucky, self-sacrificing, and forgiving protagonist is actually just a total mess underneath his smile. He isn't someone who -anyone- should ever want to be like.

As for why the heroine likes him, I get the feeling that it's less because Subaru is kind and more because Emilia is also a lonely naive idiot herself. It's more because she's too nice than because he is.

Camden Flores
Camden Flores

are the break times worth watching?

Jace Howard
Jace Howard

It's not like they're long or anything.

Evan Peterson
Evan Peterson

watching them would still take time which I could use to shitpost

Brandon Williams
Brandon Williams

We'll probably find out more about who Subaru is after we find out why Satella is so obsessively in love with him.

Charles Evans
Charles Evans

Satella is Subaru and Emilia's child.
Plus it's the track suit.

Cooper Torres
Cooper Torres

is Re:Zero reall good or just another shitposting target?

Why are making Re:Zero threads every FIVE hours?

Luke Rogers
Luke Rogers

It's alright, but there's a lot more shitposting here than we ever really needed. Also, spoilers got released way too early, which makes it harder for me to judge the story from where it's currently at in the anime.

Thomas Watson
Thomas Watson

Depends what you consider real good.
It's entertaining if you attention span isn't 5 minutes.

Nicholas Torres
Nicholas Torres

I wonder more why she said it to a random guy when it's apparently such a taboo name.

Dylan Gonzalez
Dylan Gonzalez

I wouldn't be surprised if the track suit gets ruined in the last arc as one last FUCK YOU to the poor kid.
Or as the last bit of his care for Earth is removed.

Wyatt Hughes
Wyatt Hughes

Either she was just testing his ignorance, trying to scare him off, or she was actually being Satella in that timeline.

Chase Baker
Chase Baker

Then someone just has to learn how to make a new one, so that tracksuits can always be associated as the garb of the Witch King and his foul armies.

Asher Johnson
Asher Johnson

It's funny that this show is mocked for having no subtlety yet people fail to grasp the nuances of Subaru's character.

Ayden Collins
Ayden Collins

Watch breaktimes in a small window while shitposting.

Xavier Mitchell
Xavier Mitchell

Honestly I'm starting to doubt the witch king ending now that I'm caught up with shit, as it seems Subaru's going down the sage path by the looks of things.
Plus tack that on that he's actively gunning for the Gluttony fucks so he can get his second Waifu back, it seems more likely that he'll end up the Sage.
And due to how the setting works they'd need all three of the Sage, Dragon, and Sword Saint to free our horrible hitler witch, with AT BEST two agents of the three, Satella ain't getting out anytime soon.
Unless Reinhardt is actually the Pride apostle/bishop, I suppose.

Jonathan Long
Jonathan Long

Unless Reinhardt is the pride apostle
WAIT A FUCKING SECOND

Jose Fisher
Jose Fisher

So how long is the show supposed to be? 24 episodes?

Levi Morris
Levi Morris

It has a mix of some likeable characters, but some shitty writing mixed in. Then you have three camps with this series....

1. The animeonlyfags that haven't (and probably won't ever) bother with the LN/WN/whatever. They judge the series solely on what they've watched and not what's going to happen according to what someone else tells them.

2. LN/WN/whateverfags that are way ahead of everyone else. Like to argue with animeonlyfags about events that haven't even occurred in the anime yet. Will defend their series to the death, regardless of how contrived the writing becomes.

3. People that read actual literature and are triggered hard by the writing. This group is often comprised of crossboarders and are new to anime, so they have no investment or attachment in the series or the characters. Often give the most objective-based criticisms.

Andrew Ward
Andrew Ward

fuck are you talking about.

Parker Hernandez
Parker Hernandez

I don't think "Witch King" is meant to be taken so literally as a specific "path". He just needs to be the husbando of the "Witch Queen" to earn that title, and maybe have the powers to back that up. If that technically makes him a "Sage" then so be it.

Adrian Murphy
Adrian Murphy

We don't know much about Subaru, but they pointed out that he doesn't go outside much. It's safe to assume that he doesn't have that many friends.
killing someone for smelling funny is considered a hate crime in most countries
It wasn't just that
The smell made them suspicious
It means he has some tie to the witch
Reading one of the threads I saw a spoiler that said something like Rem and Ram work as maids for the Clown because something happened involving the witch in their past that left them homeless. I don't know if that is true, but it gives Rem a good reason to go to try and question Barusu on her own. Her plan in the forest, which was shown better in the manga, was to injure him then heal him continuously to interrogate him. She wanted to know if he actually had serious connections to the witch that had caused her and her sister so much grief. Another spoiler I saw was Subaru is caught by the witch's cult at some point and is brutally tortured for a while. Rem and Ram might have either been tortured or witnessed someone getting tortured before they worked for Mr. Clown. Which made Ram empathetic. That's why at the start of ep 7 Ram killed Subaru. She didn't want to see someone suffer like that. Rem didn't care. That's why she said her sister was "too kind"
Subaru latches on to people easily since he doesn't have a lot of people in his life, and he sees that the Maids didn't wanted to kill him out of pure malice, except for when Ram thought that he killed Rem. They taught him useful skills, which as a NEET he probably didn't have many of. He probably also realized that the curse was meant for him, but his cowardice of hiding in the library caused Rem to die.
Not only did he want to save his friend, but he also felt her death was on his hands.

Connor Mitchell
Connor Mitchell

It wasn't just that
The smell made them suspicious
It means he has some tie to the witch

He's aware of that you dingus. What he was implying is how absurd it is from a writing point of view, especially since they've explained very little about this "Witch of Envy" so far in the show.

Leo Nguyen
Leo Nguyen

The smell of the great bait of envy reeks in this thread

Tyler Bennett
Tyler Bennett

Is the correct name the Witch of Envy or the Witch of Jealousy? Envy and jealousy are not the same thing.

Lucas Nguyen
Lucas Nguyen

You can't be serious.

David Cruz
David Cruz

It's the Seven Sins, so I'd say it's Envy.
Sometimes things happen before we understand why.

Robert Nelson
Robert Nelson

The show is getting better but it really needs to address some things.
It will, be patient you literal autist.

Andrew King
Andrew King

#2 is basically every shitty LN adaptation, and it's exponentially worse when the series becomes popular like this one.

Nathaniel Murphy
Nathaniel Murphy

The maids have only been horrible to him
What? Except for the murder thing they're usually pretty good to him.

Sebastian Flores
Sebastian Flores

It's bait and this is the bait thread. If you're posting in it you are bad and should feel bad.

I feel bad

Carson Robinson
Carson Robinson

They were playing him like a damn fiddle, Rem makes it clear they never trusted him.

Jordan Hughes
Jordan Hughes

Why don't we know everything about the story and motives of the characters from the beginning?

Christian Peterson
Christian Peterson

Same retarded question posted on animesuki with the exact same words

GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE YOU FUCKING SHITTER AND NEVER COME BACK.

ALSO IS FUCKING WITH OF ENVY YOU RETARD.

Joseph Ortiz
Joseph Ortiz

At least you were courteous enough to be this salty in your own thread.

Angel Jackson
Angel Jackson

They never trusted him, but they still had genuine moments with him and at the very least enjoyed his company. They even held his hand while he was having nightmares. That goes beyond pretending.

Jack Ortiz
Jack Ortiz

Shitty writing
We always hear this but the shitposters don't know how to elaborate. The LN readers have to spell everything out until there is a stalemate. And you know what? The shitposters end up sounding stupid 70% of the time because of their broken sentences.

Gabriel Flores
Gabriel Flores

Contrived is the new forced. Everything is contrived.

Adrian Anderson
Adrian Anderson

I want to see drill loli cry over subaru's corpse.

Jaxon Ramirez
Jaxon Ramirez

What the fuck is your agenda dude? Are you purposefully trying to piss off WNfags?

Aaron Murphy
Aaron Murphy

deliberately created rather than arising naturally or spontaneously.
I'm sorry, you make it sound as if there is something coming out of nothing. The summoned to another world is one thing. The respawn is the second. The scent is the third. And guess what? It was all done by the same person with reasons unknown but we haven't learned yet. At least this series has reasons. Some of them get answered. And you don't seem to understand how "contrived" really is.

Leo Gutierrez
Leo Gutierrez

See
https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/141295119/#141298073

We've already had this chat. The author has a well written series that's why alot of people like it.

Mason Long
Mason Long

deliberately created rather than arising naturally or spontaneously
It's almost as if stories aren't actually real life, and all the events in them happen because someone planned them to happen that way. And exactly, it has reasons. Are the reasons not good enough? Why are they not good enough? Please explain.

Jayden Sullivan
Jayden Sullivan

Is this another shitposting thread? We don't even need another thread till the next episode. Come the fuck on people, I'm tired of posting the same shit over and over again. Stop trying to rile up the WNfags.

Aiden Garcia
Aiden Garcia

I remember that thread, shitposters were trying to go full damage control after that.

Blake Lopez
Blake Lopez

3 weeks without eps because of tennis
Thanks /sp/

Asher Watson
Asher Watson

Every time someone points out a flaw or asks a valid question, LNfags will just make shit up or attempt to justify an author's bullshit. This is not exclusive to this series. For re:zero, the explanation for everything is always "Subaru has crippling depression" or "MC does what Satella wants him to".

That's actually vague as shit and explains nothing, and that's intended, because the author can basically write whatever he wants (even if its unbelieveable edgy trash) and he can fall back on "MC does what Satella wants him to". That's why it's shitty writing, because the explanation behind Subaru's ridiculous motives/actions requires yet another explanation.

Hunter Kelly
Hunter Kelly

This show is garbage and you should feel bad for liking it

Gavin Hughes
Gavin Hughes

Ridiculous explanation? Most of the stuff has been literally ripped of the WN.

Brandon Hall
Brandon Hall

your favorite anime is shit

Levi Nelson
Levi Nelson

Can we have another thread like that? I want physics bro to come back. He was a chill dude.

Cooper Price
Cooper Price

My favorite anime is Toradora

Ryan Davis
Ryan Davis

I like Toradora, but you sir don't know a good series even if it hit you in the face. You probably don't know why Toradora even clicks

Hunter Hall
Hunter Hall

I have a lot of reasons to think that re:zero isn't a good show.

Cooper Rogers
Cooper Rogers

7/25 episodes aired

Luke Scott
Luke Scott

Nobody is making shit up user. Everything has ripped off the WN series, you have 430+ chapters worth of stuff us WNfags to sift through to counter argue against other anons.

Christian Reyes
Christian Reyes

Why is it a bad explanation? I mean I really don't get it. Depression isn't an "excuse" it's just a character motivation.

Blake Bell
Blake Bell

an implied one at best, if he doesn't bother explaining it and only hinting at it with this very vague behavior than fuck that

Gavin Jenkins
Gavin Jenkins

really isn't it just another im in a different world and there's videogame mechanics

i mean, he literally goes gameover and reloads froma checkpoint

Eli Young
Eli Young

He talks about it in great detail later in the story. Sorry the anime didn't come with extensive character bios before episode one.

Jason Collins
Jason Collins

It's different because Subaru's fucked. It's like if Homura had to die every time to start a new time loop, and then after finally saving Madoka after 500 loops of despair there's some other shit she has to do, again and again forever.

Dominic Taylor
Dominic Taylor

I-It's different because the characters are stereotypicals and there's blood,user!

Andrew Baker
Andrew Baker

Nobody is arguing against that, that's why there are alot of people saying is like Dark Souls or whatever. But to say its just another generic X is no differentiation and is ununique, well that's where alot of WNfag would defend it.

Jackson Taylor
Jackson Taylor

I assume getting too indepth would be a pain in the ass. Who cares if Subaru has crippling depression? We learn what he's like by watching him and we're supposed to put things together as we go on.

Subaru is an idiot who acts a lot more cheerful than he actually is and is willing to suffer and risk his life for people who he has little reason to like. He grows way too attached to people for the amount of interaction he actually has with them. These are all accurate observations. His actions are not those of a reasonable person, which implies that's largely because he isn't a reasonable person.

He's the sort of lonely and desperate clingy guy who fell in love with a girl in one day because she was nice to him.
That's what I assumed. It's something that's supposed to be revealed more as we go through.

Evan Walker
Evan Walker

I always hate this, sorry that the most common trait is living in a different world, while having modern benefit's. On that note, how do you do a series that's an alternate world while also not using that cliche that it's a video game world or fantasy world.

Julian Murphy
Julian Murphy

The fact that at least it isn't harem and his only power is savescumming - at least so far - is already a huge improvement to me.

Julian Morales
Julian Morales

>>141695828
Meant to quote

Daniel Price
Daniel Price

Well if fantastical elements aren't allowed, it just has to be a "real" world with no magic shit. Time travel to distant future?

Ayden Baker
Ayden Baker

Well for one it's like the monkey's paw of MMO tropes. Such as:

Being the chosen one
Fighing enemies
Getting powers

All of that fun stuff that MC gets in some way shape or form but in a way he never expected to get it and wanted to have happen to him. Now have that, then consider that this series is made by a sadist. Not also take into consideration that the author himself hates self-inserts, OP MC's, and wish-fulfillment.

Christian Ward
Christian Ward

Subaru has thus far demonstrated few of the ICD-10's ten agreed symptoms of depression.

Persistent low mood
Anhedonia
Fatigue
Insomnia
Poor concentration
Poor appetite
Inappropriate feelings of guilt
Psychomotor retardation or agitation
Low self confidence
Suicidal thoughts or acts

Fewer than four symptoms is not considered depression.
Mild depression is defined as having four symptoms, moderate depression as five to six symptoms, and severe depression as having seven or more symptoms, every day for a month or more.

How is what we have seen Subaru demonstrate in any way approaching crippling depression? If anything, he's just being emo.

Brandon Bennett
Brandon Bennett

hasn't watched episode 7
dude, he fucking full on went depressed, holy fuck how can you not see that, he checked half easily in the first half, and the rest towards the end.

Landon Cooper
Landon Cooper

Low self confidence
Suicidal thoughts or acts
Inappropriate feelings of guilt

Well we have three at least.

No one means literal DSM depression, we're not psychiatrists trying to diagnose him with shit. It's just shorter than saying "deeply unhappy and kind of fucked in the head due to having a shit life".

Matthew Morgan
Matthew Morgan

symptoms should be present for a month or more and every symptom should be present for most of every day

Jack Reed
Jack Reed

Being the main villain's chosen one
Fighting raidboss-tier level enemies only
Getting powers at the payment of losing everything you hold dear

Subaru never wanted any of this

Ayden Parker
Ayden Parker

The the manga any good? Or are people reading the LN?

Angel Butler
Angel Butler

WN is the farthest along with the plot.

Easton Moore
Easton Moore

Inappropriate feelings of guild
Check.
He always blames himself for shit that could be prevented

persistent low mood
Check.
Kid HATES himself and only puts up a happy front

Suicidal thoughts or acts
See episode 7

Fatigue
Not physical, but his mental fatigue is so great he just spent four days sitting in bed feeling like all he does is fuck things up
Plus he gets so mentally strained in the next arc he ends up a gibbering mess who can't even think straight

Low self confidence
CHECK

Poor appetite
Shown in the novels for the events of episode 7. He doesn't eat much at all for all four days of that loop

Checks out if you ask me senpai

Aaron Anderson
Aaron Anderson

Either way, Subaru's actions are always driven by vague shit. It leaves the author a lot of room to improvise where he wants to go, but it raises a lot of questions for good reason. I've read through these cancerous threads, and even WN readers don't know Satella's reasons for controlling the MC beyond "she loves him" or "she is insane". The author is basically inserted into Satella, and he's making him go through edgy shit all the time for the sake of muh suffering. Feels forced as fuck, kind of like the antagonist in kokoro connect.

Henry Wood
Henry Wood

Persistent low mood
Fatigue
Poor appetite
Inappropriate feelings of guilt
Psychomotor retardation or agitation
Low self confidence
Suicidal thoughts or acts

He already has these.

Jaxson Robinson
Jaxson Robinson

From the beginning, it's pretty obvious that it's meant to be a twist on that formula. The only videogame mechanics are the checkpoints. The LN actually describes the magic as looking rather uglier and more "real" than Subaru was expecting.

The story also presents a twist on the idea of him being the Chosen One, because that's exactly what he is. The twist is that it's in one of the worst possible ways, since he wasn't chosen by anything benevolent. Sure, he gets a special power no one else has and makes him unkillable to anyone else for all practical purposes, but the drawbacks are taken very seriously.

Michael Hughes
Michael Hughes

Fuck I can't find it. Mind sourcing me?

Lucas Gonzalez
Lucas Gonzalez

People have literally spoiled the exact specifics of why Subaru is the way he is several times in these threads. And we don't know a whole lot about Satella's motivations and who she is because that's almost certainly going to be one of the biggest reveals in the story you retard.

Zachary Jenkins
Zachary Jenkins

Only if you can read moon

http://ncode.syosetu.com/n2267be/

Joseph Barnes
Joseph Barnes

By arc 3 he has all 10 of these. Then you find out he has all 10 of those consistently since the first arc.

Austin Barnes
Austin Barnes

symptoms should be present for a month or more and every symptom should be present for most of every day

Bentley Thomas
Bentley Thomas

Anhedonia
He wasn't feeling no pleasure from anything.
Insomnia
Pic related.
Can't eat.
He wasn't eating from what I know in that depression phase. In fact, the anime glanced over it.
Agitation
Look at pic related again.

Cooper Davis
Cooper Davis

we are only 7 episodes in, just fucking wait till episode 25 than give your stamp of shit bait

Anthony Howard
Anthony Howard

Except it is.

The problem is the animators had to cut alot of Subaru's inner thoughts and monologues out in the anime for the sake of pacing. Nobody wants to have Subaru talk about himself for 10 minutes every episode.

Joshua Rogers
Joshua Rogers

He wasn't feeling no pleasure from anything.
So he was only pretending to enjoy fantasizing about his date with Emilia-tan when he was alone with nobody around?

Lucas Edwards
Lucas Edwards

only response is telling me why he didn't express symptoms that I never said he expressed
ignores the part where I said I'm not even talking about the diagnostic definition of depression.
Shouldn't you be studying for your next psych exam instead of wasting time on Sup Forums?

Hudson Barnes
Hudson Barnes

The reason we don't know much for motivations is because Satella and Subaru haven't had motive rants or anything like that.
Subaru's a dumb kid who gets any dreams of monotony in his life as a NEET ending after the first arc pretty goddamn hard.
He's slowly starting to think everything is futile because even in this world where he should be a hero as far as his interpretations of his situations go, he's still a total loser who can't do anything right and relies on other people to help solve his issues for him, but gets credit for his hard work, only for it to bite him in the ass later.

Satella, the ONLY things we know about her is the following
She WAS a kindhearted young lady who wanted to join the witches
she didn't have the aptitude or powers to do so
to join the witches, she forced the power into her somehow, causing a split in her personality: Satella and the Witch of Envy
the witch of envy then slaughters the other witches
she's subsequently sealed by the sage, dragon, and sword saint
she yanks Subaru into the new world and curses him
she loves him a whole lot
mental fucking nutcase too
Satella herself is still supposedly a very kind, very loving, witch. But the Witch of Envy is a psychotic nutter who is pretty much satanic hitler.

Christian Wood
Christian Wood

The problem is he's has this shit before he even jumped into the world, his depression and inferiority complex was developed during his life in the real world. The anime even said that he became a NEET/Hikki by choice.

Christopher Cooper
Christopher Cooper

Subaru can't catch a fucking break can he.

Ayden Gonzalez
Ayden Gonzalez

Forgot the pic.

Blake Ramirez
Blake Ramirez

Blame his dad.

Lucas Martin
Lucas Martin

No luck in the other thread.
Where can I buy the light novel from?Already tried cdjapan, don't have it

Julian Fisher
Julian Fisher

YenPress blocked all fan translations because they're asshats like that. Wait for the "fanfics" to come around.

John Morris
John Morris

Ok, good to know. I mean, where can I buy them in moon?

Nathaniel Garcia
Nathaniel Garcia

See, though, even from a non medical lay perspective, depression isn't "crippling" unless it actually, you know, cripples you. Affecting your normal day to day function. If he isn't having regularly disturbed sleep, if he has a normal appetite, if he can focus on doing things and go outside instead of sitting around stewing in his own lack of self worth, then that is not "crippling depression".

Camden Hernandez
Camden Hernandez

Most are exaggerating when they describe what's happening now as "crippling", though its still pretty bad. While it's not crippling now, but it will be crippling later in the story.

Thomas Murphy
Thomas Murphy

You can read it in moon, for free. Since the source material is the WN.

http://ncode.syosetu.com/n2267be/

Connor Stewart
Connor Stewart

Regards: Crystal Energy Kai. You forgot to put some gay jokes in

Anthony Clark
Anthony Clark

Subaru is an idiot who acts a lot more cheerful than he actually is and is willing to suffer and risk his life for people who he has little reason to like

So what if he likes helping out strangers? Plenty people do that in real world and their dedicated organizations doing exactly that. Just because selfish asshole does mean is nor need to act like one for so you can self insert. And for info both Emilia and Reinhard helped out him first without ulterior motives only simply because he was somebody in trouble. Are they badly written because they confirmed to moral standards?

It's not that his character is written is badly just looking for reasons shit on series and says way about what kind of person you are where you lack even basic empathy for others. The world isn't always about you.

Putting that aside has plenty reason to help he's met so given they him a place to live, work and treated him well. A person like him who has nothing to him or offer anyone of course he's debted. That's juts not being an shithead.

Jackson Miller
Jackson Miller

Beatrice got a lot more popular after last episode

Asher Bailey
Asher Bailey

Yep, and they always make up excuses to blame the work instead of themselves. But then again most of them tend to be trolls looking to hate on what's popular by making threads like this. It's pathetic, but so of what Sup Forums attacts.

Brandon Taylor
Brandon Taylor

The anime really does not potray him as well as the other mediums do.

Nolan James
Nolan James

That or people can't seem to detect subtle clues and social queues.

William Young
William Young

Why are making Re:Zero threads every FIVE hours?
Because it's the only show worth talking about.

Jonathan Long
Jonathan Long

Sup Forums for the most part is still more intelligent than the average user, it's just they really don't like to think hard about things, rather they like to be force fed

Ethan Wright
Ethan Wright

Can someone summarize the AU chapters of Rem for me?

Jordan Kelly
Jordan Kelly

No, and I doubt anyone is willing to.

Bentley Reed
Bentley Reed

She wanted him to find her weird and possibly leave her alone afterwards, because she didn't want him to involve himself with her due to the emblem business. After he acted so naturally to it she immediatly felt bad, and before he entered the building told him she had something to tell him afterwards after realizing he was a nice person.

Even Puck thought she was being mean.

Ian Garcia
Ian Garcia

Why not just watch it and judge for yourself?

Leo Wood
Leo Wood

Mood swings happen to all people. What you're describing is a person with depression, who's had those symptoms in constant state as a default state. No smiling/laughing/excitedness/concentration/etc.

You're not depressed if you feel low mood, anhedonia, fatigue, insomnia, poor concentration for couple of days. Its when these things persists for years to months. That change is almost irreversible in many cases.

Source: myself. Diagnosed with clinical depression, not pop culture depression. Many of those symptoms you mentioned are part of my normal personality now and its been that way for 10+ years. With exception of suicidal thoughts/acts, thats mainly due to low motivation and "reduced affect display" + methodical logical thoughts governing my entire behaviour.

Brody Bailey
Brody Bailey

More intelligent than the average user.
Doesn't like to think about hard things.
They like to be force-fed.
Congratulations, you're now an idiot.

Robert Clark
Robert Clark

Death/Reset gimmick would cripple anybody though. It's not that special and anyone could be MC and suffer through the same thing.

Parker Clark
Parker Clark

Quads don't lie.

Hudson Phillips
Hudson Phillips

But even quads prove contradictions.

Isaac Robinson
Isaac Robinson

Lucky dubs now prove your point.

Carson Cox
Carson Cox

I have a lot of reason to think why your mom dropped you on your head when you were suckling and left you simple.

Easton Torres
Easton Torres

Intelligence and laziness aren't mutually exclusive

Levi Sullivan
Levi Sullivan

threadly reminder this shit got canned

Ian Brown
Ian Brown

he has crippling depression, emilia/mansion staff are the first people to ever show him kindness and that's why he wants to protect them.

Leo Garcia
Leo Garcia

I think his dad is supposed to be super cool and supportive actually, the thing is he tried to live up to his dad and kept failing miserably, which made him depressed and at some point a neet, but since he exercised and tried to be like his father he isn't a complete social outcast and isn't afraid of talking to people.

Kevin Sanchez
Kevin Sanchez

"I've never fought on my entire life"
"Mugglers? I'm gonna punch them instead of running away"
Receives power up from curse
Mugglers are convenient wimps
"Oh my god I'm so cool!"

"I like your fairy tales, here, let me share a casual fairy tale of where I come from"
"OMG that's so me and my twin sister!!"

"OMG What a cute puppy!! I'm gonna let it bite me. I come to buy to this town everytime but just now he wants to bite me, how cute!"

"Oh that must be a Metia, the thing we will never mention again but will make negotiations faster"
"Yes, this metia is worth the same that an invaluable stone that detects royal blood"

"There was a disease that infected all members of the royal family, now we have a reason to introduce new characters and justify a plot"

"You want to try to convince everybody about your curse? Ha ha no we don't want that in our show. Instead, suffer."

"Emilia-tan, I love you, but the plot needs that we separate. I'm gonna break a promise, fight in a battle I can't win and break my mana gate. See you later!"

"If I make my MC a depressive faggot with father complex, I can justify his lack of common sense and extreme attachment to bypass normal human relationships. I'm a genius!" t. Re:zero author

Why do you still believe this show has good writing?

Colton Phillips
Colton Phillips

Consider this every day for a month or more.

Henry Hall
Henry Hall

Why do your parents still believe you have a girlfriend?

Austin Gutierrez
Austin Gutierrez

Nice bait

Noah Rodriguez
Noah Rodriguez

see

Jaxon Ward
Jaxon Ward

See

Gavin King
Gavin King

You're really pulling on the straws now aren't you?

Thomas Wilson
Thomas Wilson

Males in anime have been dense self-inserts for like that last 7 years.

There's really no point in discussing anime other than going oh hey I like this show

Me too dawg

There's lots of cute girls

Yo

James Johnson
James Johnson

Thanks man. But seriously, I specifically want the LN I don't want to use amazon

Levi Peterson
Levi Peterson

Every Re:Zero shitposter in a nutshell

Ethan Murphy
Ethan Murphy

doesn't that apply to every shitposter?

Justin Myers
Justin Myers

Oh, alright.

http://honto.jp/netstore/pd-book_27418202.html

Landon Martin
Landon Martin

I would be pulling straws if the thing I mentioned were small nitpicks. They are actually very relevant for the plot.

Juan Campbell
Juan Campbell

Isn't the point of shitposting that they don't think they're right but just want to make people frustrated?

Anthony Stewart
Anthony Stewart

No, its a phrase to describe straw-manning and argument.

Cameron Fisher
Cameron Fisher

Ignores I said "They are actually very relevant for the plot."

Can you prove me wrong?

Colton White
Colton White

That's alot of books

Joseph Stewart
Joseph Stewart

It applies to you as well.

Jordan Murphy
Jordan Murphy

"I've never fought on my entire life"
"Mugglers? I'm gonna punch them instead of running away"
Receives power up from curse
Mugglers are convenient wimps
"Oh my god I'm so cool!"
and then they killed him

Zachary Parker
Zachary Parker

For the 100th time I can, you're just making me re-type the same shit I've done over and over again aren't you? 1/2

"I've never fought on my entire life"
"Mugglers? I'm gonna punch them instead of running away"
Receives power up from curse
Mugglers are convenient wimps
"Oh my god I'm so cool!"

He already stated that he had too much freetime in his hands and has worked out before entering the world. The curse didn't do shit to power him up at all. Did you even watch the anime let alone read any material involving this series?

"I like your fairy tales, here, let me share a casual fairy tale of where I come from"
"OMG that's so me and my twin sister!!"

It's called foreshadowing and backstory, which is relevant to the plot later on.

"OMG What a cute puppy!! I'm gonna let it bite me. I come to buy to this town everytime but just now he wants to bite me, how cute!"

That's called re-living memories, Subaru wants to replicate everything he's worked so hard for. Not to mention you'd fall flat on your ass with the reveal if you didn't read the spoilers. Not to mention its called leaving clues.

"Oh that must be a Metia, the thing we will never mention again but will make negotiations faster"
"Yes, this metia is worth the same that an invaluable stone that detects royal blood"

Saved his ass numerous times, not to mention he didn't have the time nor the place to sell the metia anyhow, considering that he's been dying alot. Not to mention his vendor, Rom, is with Felt in Reinhardt's castle which is miles away.

"There was a disease that infected all members of the royal family, now we have a reason to introduce new characters and justify a plot"

The fuck? There are entire VOLUMES dedicated to how the royal family died.

Xavier Davis
Xavier Davis

2/2

"You want to try to convince everybody about your curse? Ha ha no we don't want that in our show. Instead, suffer."

No, if a malevolent force that intends to wipe out the world brought a vassal of some sorts from another word you'd obviously would not want said vassal to tell anyone that can hint that you're doing some shady shit.

"Emilia-tan, I love you, but the plot needs that we separate. I'm gonna break a promise, fight in a battle I can't win and break my mana gate. See you later!"

No, he was looking for her best interest, considering Subaru is an idiot and is riles up easily its completely in character to make an ass of himself for someone else self-interest. Not to mention one of his main character flaws is the fact that he tries to help when help is not needed, inferiority complex and whatnot.

"If I make my MC a depressive faggot with father complex, I can justify his lack of common sense and extreme attachment to bypass normal human relationships. I'm a genius!" t. Re:zero author

Except it does, making him a basket case from the get-go not only adds to depth later on in the series but also give more material for the author to write about, not to mention it just screams potential character development which is fufilled.

Are you happy now?

Noah Lopez
Noah Lopez

Tom cruises new sci-fi film
how are people falling for this bait

Levi Scott
Levi Scott

First loop
All that happens
One guy brings swords
"I'm sorry"
Felt enters
Emilia saves him
See, if he has run instead of staying, there wouldn't be plot. The coincidence is there.
Powerup
Read manga first arc. I've been told it also happens on the LN
"Foreshadowing"
Yeah, really convenient that the casual fairy tale fits so well with the sister.
Not noticing I'm talking about Rem
Try again. Also, convenient death so that MC gets a clue
Missing the point of metia
Try again
Justifying the convenience doesn't invalidates the convenience
Try again
Magic is the cause of everything
Lazy writing to circumvent actual interaction
MC is a convenient Idiot for the plot
Any MC would be more interesting than a reactionary retard
Character development is a witch that forces him to remember his parents
We already talked how magic is convenient.
Basket case for psychological drama
Is like you ignore the fact the author is lazy
Basket case for the author to write about
If all he cares is psycho bishops, yandere witches and making the MC suffer, how does that makes him a good writer?

Veredict: try again.

Brandon Sanchez
Brandon Sanchez

Entire volumes
I can't remember details but was it in relation to the contract of the dragon? I forget.

Caleb Cooper
Caleb Cooper

here is your reply

Christian Myers
Christian Myers

Holy shit I cannot believe I just dedicated my time to a troll, or a brick wall.

If you're only argument is "try again" clearly I've driven you into a corner.

Zachary Howard
Zachary Howard

this is some lazy as fuck shitposting

Matthew Nelson
Matthew Nelson

Veredict
Faggot

Josiah Smith
Josiah Smith

The royal family was killed therefore causing the contract with the dragon to expire or whatnot. I forgot most of its content but alot of it was explained in pic related.

Jose Hernandez
Jose Hernandez

Ah, it wasn't a disease, was it? I thought that was too weird for all of them to die just like that. Especially all at once. Afterall, Felt was the only one alive.

Andrew Nguyen
Andrew Nguyen

http://honto.jp/netstore/pd-book_27418202.html
A fucking bundle, cool. Thanks my black skinned brother

Asher Cox
Asher Cox

If your only argument is "try again" clearly I've driven you into a corner.
Are you sure it isn't because you missed the point of the arguments? I'm declaring the author uses a lot of obvious coincidences in his writing, and I pointed the points where that happens. Wether they have justification or not is not relevant, since the obvious coincidences already happened and the author is just putting band-aids.

Parker Rodriguez
Parker Rodriguez

There is no point in trying to have a meaningful discussion with shitposters like you if the only thing you can do is claim laziness and plot convenience.

Gabriel Wright
Gabriel Wright

Are you implying they don't happen? Because they do, I pointed some of them.

Tyler Walker
Tyler Walker

That's not what he was implying at all.

Bentley Ross
Bentley Ross

Are you telling me he should've had 200+ chapters worth of exposition before going into the main story? I'm not a bad-aid its called a plot an unraveling it.

Nathan Cooper
Nathan Cooper

Did someone say a wise magical negro?

Brayden Anderson
Brayden Anderson

No, I'm telling you he's band-aiding a plot convenience. You don't need to know the details when the event that happens convieniently kills an specific group.

Aaron White
Aaron White

if there's a reasonable explanation for those plot conveniences then its fine

Evan White
Evan White

With your way of thinking I can put every novel and film under the fucking sun with your verdict. From In Search Of Lost Time to the Unusual Suspects.

Parker Brown
Parker Brown

justifications are very relevant

Benjamin Howard
Benjamin Howard

Conveniently
Didn't we already went through this just a few posts ago? Are you an idiot?

Connor Reed
Connor Reed

Why are people shitting on the series/asking for more information, when we haven't even reached the middle of the series (ignoring the fact that this is an adaptation). It's like reading the first three chapters of a novel and then going to a forum to shitpost about how the MC isn't fleshed out or asking why he behaves how he does. Are people just shitposters or just retarded?

Landon Ortiz
Landon Ortiz

Berserk > RE:Zero

You know it to be true, kiddos.

Blake Rodriguez
Blake Rodriguez

Both. They like to try scratching at the surface alot.

Kevin Roberts
Kevin Roberts

is there anything wrong with plot convenience? I mean some of literature's greatest victorian era novels have used plot convenience and have still managed to be great.

Nolan Gutierrez
Nolan Gutierrez

With your way of thinking The Hobbit and The Silmarillion from LOTR are bad-aids for plot convinces.

Get out.

Hunter Collins
Hunter Collins

no one really claims that re:zero was better

Jordan Jackson
Jordan Jackson

We went through plot conveniences of this series. Not anymore. People like to nitpick on plot conveniences due to the fact that they reveal some plot holes.

Owen Adams
Owen Adams

And Berserk has to do with what exactly?

Chase Wilson
Chase Wilson

Both are good series in their respects, but nobody is claiming anyone of them to be better than the other.

Ayden Lee
Ayden Lee

This is when you know you've fucked up. Anons managed to rile up the Tolkienversefags. This is not going to end well.

Samuel Morales
Samuel Morales

I've see it, user. These twirps think this "suffering" is real. Nope. Not like Berserk.

Levi Myers
Levi Myers

Whew! What a debate!

Charles Hernandez
Charles Hernandez

It is real. user. Not better than berserk.

Hudson Ward
Hudson Ward

Just pointing out user, you know you are in Sup Forums right?

Gabriel Lee
Gabriel Lee

These twirps think this "suffering" is real

Ok now you managed to rile me up.

That suffering isn't real? Bro, are you fucking kidding me? Do you want me to spoil you on the spot?

Levi Campbell
Levi Campbell

Is this Lord of the Rings or some video game reference I seem to not be getting?

Ethan Johnson
Ethan Johnson

calm down faggots don't raise up another shitstorm

Elijah Evans
Elijah Evans

Nah, but for some reason this series attracts alot of Tolkienversefags, something about DEEPEST LORE.

Not to mention it was mostly due to them that Dark Lord Subaru became a running gag in these threads.

Michael Ortiz
Michael Ortiz

Try me, ya lightweight.

Jonathan James
Jonathan James

Great, a debate thread. What next, /pol/ coming into the fray? That's Youjo Senki.

Jaxon Morales
Jaxon Morales

You're really asking for it aren't you? Do you want me to link the pastebin or do you want me to give you a small list?

Aaron Cox
Aaron Cox

So you didn't find that a coincidence so big that affects the entire first 3 arcs is not reasonable?
Good writers make the coincidences go unnoticed. This guy put neon lights around them. Or tell me you didn't noticed that at the fairy tale thing at arc 2
http://theeditorsblog.net/2012/01/20/coincidence-destroys-the-suspension-of-disbelief/ Here's why I'm saying the writing is bad.

Here, since you didn't understand why I said "try again", let me spoonfed you.

"OMG What a cute puppy!!"
That's called re-living memories, Subaru wants to replicate everything he's worked so hard for. Not to mention you'd fall flat on your ass with the reveal if you didn't read the spoilers. Not to mention its called leaving clues.
I'm talking about rem, and how she conveniently dies this time to leave a clue. The fact that Roswald is the one killing her only makes him another psycho of the bunch, and the fact that Rem let her get bitten by a dog is convenient.

"Oh that must be a Metia, the thing we will never mention again but will make negotiations faster"
"Yes, this metia is worth the same that an invaluable stone that detects royal blood"
Saved his ass numerous times, not to mention he didn't have the time nor the place to sell the metia anyhow, considering that he's been dying alot. Not to mention his vendor, Rom, is with Felt in Reinhardt's castle which is miles away.
Are metia mentioned ever again? That's my point. Their only use, as concept, were to make negotiations easier and accelerate the plot

"There was a disease that infected all members of the royal family, now we have a reason to introduce new characters and justify a plot"
The fuck? There are entire VOLUMES dedicated to how the royal family died.
Who cares, only the royal family died. Pretty convenient, because there wouldn't be another big plot without it.

Thomas Harris
Thomas Harris

Can someone list the torture that the cult did? One of them was skinning while the other watched.

Gavin Edwards
Gavin Edwards

In Jane Eyre there were many instances of Jane having a long lost uncle and him having connections to people she meets later on in the story with many more coincidences. These are fairly obvious yet the book still remains a classic.

Christopher Nguyen
Christopher Nguyen

Just post whatever you need to, kid. I know I'm right.

Jordan Garcia
Jordan Garcia

Mang.. i have seen autism, but not your level of autism

Kindly kill and remove yourself from gene pool

Dylan Sanchez
Dylan Sanchez

They raped Rem while Subaru watched in anger.

Joseph Nguyen
Joseph Nguyen

So you're telling me The Outsiders is a shitty book with bad writing as well? There was the plot convenience of Johnny Cade dying in some random ass house-fire and Dally killing himself by cop for dramatic effect.

Zachary Lewis
Zachary Lewis

They need a new main character, I wish he would die for real.

Cameron Lewis
Cameron Lewis

I always thought it was wierd how this Sauron with his replacement body and armour looks just like Morgoth Jr.

Matthew Hernandez
Matthew Hernandez

http://pastebin.com/GbgUPSKZ

Reminder this is a VERY SHORT summary of the arcs so far, ALOT of details have been left out. If you want more I can fill you in on the details.

Liam Peterson
Liam Peterson

But Reinhardt is the main character. Just look at how op he is.

Adrian Clark
Adrian Clark

(you)

Just so you happy my little autist user

Austin Foster
Austin Foster

No they didn't. I mean they kinda did, but they didn't. Depends if you're looking at it in Mr. Fetishist's POV or Subaru's POV.

Jacob Lewis
Jacob Lewis

But what was his uncle profession? How sociable he was? That can justify the fact he knows a lot of people. It also happens in various towns of north england. If he was a merchant, he could had met that ammount of people. That way, the coincidence is justified.
One plot convenience
One does not kills suspension, especially if the show has captured your attention. I posted a few up there about this show.

Dylan Brown
Dylan Brown

Because he is basically Morgoth Jr.

Andrew Roberts
Andrew Roberts

kek

Gavin Carter
Gavin Carter

What about the time the Socs randomly came up and just started beating the shit outta Johnny? What about that Brawl between Darrel and his best friend? What about the fact that Ponyboy has no parents? What about the time when the Socs parents somehow let Johnny and Ponyboy of the hook for killing their own fucking son?

Joshua Torres
Joshua Torres

his
okay but what about when Jane suddenly gets a "mysterious" message in her head to send a letter to thornfield. Calling this Victorian Gothic supernaturalism is not justifiable.

Jace Collins
Jace Collins

Cute, but I don't know the book. You can tell me the events all you want, but I don't know how they were written.

All the events of Re:Zero I mention already happened in the manga/LN/anime (WN is irrelevant since even fans say it's poorly written), excluding the 3rd arc one which I got info from these threads. So, with elements already presented in official releases, and some lurking I've done on these threads, I present those coincidences with conviction.

Christopher Roberts
Christopher Roberts

There only summarize the key plot-points of the series

There's more around it?

Lucas Johnson
Lucas Johnson

Yes, there are hundreds of chapters around said key-plotpoints. The context and little details are just as bad as the plotpoints summarized.

Gabriel Harris
Gabriel Harris

And we told you our evidence in conviction. And you still try to go with the same claim without variety.

Nathan Hill
Nathan Hill

First of all, I haven't read that novel. My previous comment is based around a summary. That's why I proposed that the uncle could have more around it.

So with that out of the way, how about intuition? How intuitive is Jane? Can you tell me when it happens so that I can get an idea? Also, can you tell me how often she gets these messages, if any? If any of these is weird, then is clearly the author just pulling one supernatural thing. It leaves a bad taste but is it enough to make it bad considering the rest of the book? My claims about Rezero, as mentioned in , never go beyond the start of arc 3, since that's how far I've read/watched and how much I stretch my belief based on what people on these threads have told me.

But I've pointed out why you guys' evidence is not pulling down my points. I also detailed those "try again" points, and I haven't got another serious answer about that point. You read the 3 "try again" in the entire post and inmediately dismissed the other points.

Asher Sullivan
Asher Sullivan

Isn't that where high strung tsun type riajuus chase a ball around with fucking eskimo snow shoes or some shit? what a waste of energy and air time

Joseph Smith
Joseph Smith

And you dismissed our points that was a answer to the plot conveniences that you claimed. And also,
inmediately
I can't take you seriously anymore.

William Hall
William Hall

Why do people get so fucking triggered by the slightest coincidence, the slightest thing that looks like it might be convenient, no matter how well its explained? It's almost like most things in life don't happen out of sheer coincidence, good or bad luck. It's like complaining that history is unrealistic because it's too contrived for you that Kennedy rode in an uncovered car.

Xavier Ortiz
Xavier Ortiz

They get explained, but this user doesn't accept it.

John Kelly
John Kelly

Are metia mentioned ever again? That's my point. Their only use, as concept, were to make negotiations easier and accelerate the plot
someone tells you it's used again
still act like it's only seen in arc 1
Why are we bothering?

Julian Sanchez
Julian Sanchez

WN is irrelevant since even fans say it's poorly written
They don't though.

Dominic Brown
Dominic Brown

And you dismissed our points that was a answer to the plot conveniences that you claimed.
That would be true, but here There I went and explained in depth

Nope. No one has told me where metias, as things that allows non-magic users to use magic, is used again outside of arc 1. And I'm not talking about the cellphone, I'm talking about metias.

We haven't seen the same guys saying that the LN is a better redacted and written version of the WN.

Hudson Wilson
Hudson Wilson

The fuck? Sure the WN has some pacing problems but it's well written. When the fuck did we claim that the WN wasn't anything BUT well written?

Isaac Hernandez
Isaac Hernandez

See

WN is irrelevant

Moving goalposts I see

Ryder Lopez
Ryder Lopez

Of course the LN would be better, since generally having time to edit and make things more concise makes it better, but no one says the WN is bad.

Isaac Jenkins
Isaac Jenkins

The LN removes alot of stuff that the editors considered "uneeded". The reason why you see alot of WNfags compared to LNfags should already state the evidence that the WN is considered on par, if not better than the LN version.

Kevin Cox
Kevin Cox

Who he fuck says the WN is bad? Nobody has ever said the WN is bad. Alot of people say the WN is well-written.

Josiah Bennett
Josiah Bennett

She WAS a kindhearted young lady
who wanted to join the witches
Why would a nice young lady want to join the psycho witch group?

James Walker
James Walker

Metias are magical items that allow non-magic users to use magic.
Wait... I am sure as hell that is later in the story. Just wait. I don't remember the full details but definitely.

Michael Sanders
Michael Sanders

Throughout the rest of this book moments like that never occur again. The story keeps taking conveniences to further add drama but these still don't take any enjoyment from the novel.

I guess what I'm trying to get at is using plot conveniences as an excuse to blame a novel is not right as plot conveniences have been used in a lot of great literature. I'll admit some stories do this better than others.

Josiah Rodriguez
Josiah Rodriguez

I'm sure it goes along with the whole explanation of how magic works, which comes later.

Chase Nelson
Chase Nelson

Well all of the witches are like that actually, most of them are meaning to do good and have sympathetic backstories, that's why alot of anons state his power is more of a curse. All of the witches are like failed lab experiments.

Cooper Ramirez
Cooper Ramirez

Read manga first arc. I've been told it also happens on the LN
There's no powerup in the LN. Subaru merely thinks he might have gotten a powerup at first, but he soon realizes his mistake when the muggers get back up and are mostly unharmed. He doesn't have superstrength or anything like that. He just scored a few lucky hits.

Jayden Kelly
Jayden Kelly

TLDR
You got fucking BTFO, try to bait again you fucking shit poster

Gavin Reyes
Gavin Reyes

The explanation comes as a fundamental and elements of magic.

Jonathan Hughes
Jonathan Hughes

Okay sharpshooters, I take that point out. How does that crumbles my point? The main elements are still there.
Then why do I read WN fags that say otherwise?
See, you can nitpick that thing all you want, it doesn't change anything, since the storytelling remains the same.
No I swear it's used later, trust me, I'm biased towards the novel
Metias are never mentioned nor used again. Their purpose is to facilitate the plot. Subaru could've used one on arc 3, because despise beign expensive and rare, he has the favor of Reinhardt's group. Why wouldn't them have access to one?

http://theeditorsblog.net/2012/01/20/coincidence-destroys-the-suspension-of-disbelief/
There are too many of them in this story to handle mine.
Calisthenics and sword swinging gives him fighting prowress, even though he has never fought before
The same problem. Also, that includes Jackie Chan acrobatics, club wielding and enduring beign slammed into a cliff (Anime ep 6)

Nice bait

Leo Taylor
Leo Taylor

I took out the disease one. It was unfair of me since I don't know the extra novel
First loop of first arc
"I've never fought on my entire life"
"Mugglers? I'm gonna punch them instead of running away"
Receives power up from curse (source: manga)
Calisthenics and sword swinging gives him fighting prowress (source: everything else)
Mugglers are convenient wimps
"Oh my god I'm so cool!"
muggler takes out swords
"I'm sorry"
Felt comes and leaves
Emilia saves him
Subaru and Emilia encounter

"I like your fairy tales, here, let me share a casual fairy tale of where I come from"
"OMG that casual fairy tale foreshadows me and my twin sister backstory, even though we are from a different world!!"

Be rem
"OMG What a cute puppy!! I'm gonna let it bite me. I come to buy to this town everytime but just now he wants to bite me, how cute!"
Be roswald
"All according to Keikaku"

"Oh that must be a Metia, the thing we will never mention again in the entire show but will serve to sell your cellphone faster"
"Yes, this metia is worth the same that an invaluable stone that detects royal blood"
"Good grief, now we can rest assured this will make negotiations easier when you die and respawn"
"Yes, and since I break my mana gate later in the story, I won't need an item like that could help me to fight"

"You want to try to convince everybody about your curse? Ha ha no we don't want that complication in our show, since obviously I would not want you to tell anyone anything that can hint that you're doing some shady shit. I'll instead let my stench flow through you so that people still thinks you're shady"

"Emilia-tan, I love you, but the plot needs that we separate. I'm gonna break a promise, fight in a battle I can't win and break my mana gate, with the justification that it is for your best interest. See you later!"

Ian Reed
Ian Reed

"If I make my MC a depressive faggot with father complex, I can justify his lack of common sense and extreme attachment to bypass normal human relationships. By making him a basket case, I justify easily the torture and suffering I'll make him pass through. I'm a genius!"
"I don't need to make the MC remember his family. If I make another character force him to remember his family instead of making him the one that thinks of them, people will believe he cares and developes! Brilliant!"
t. Re:zero author

Why is your suspension of disbelief still intact?

Ethan Foster
Ethan Foster

well that's your own problem then not the story's.

Leo Rogers
Leo Rogers

Metias are never mentioned nor used again.
Can someone confirm or deny this? This faggot is stating it like a fact despite having not read the WN.

Cameron Cox
Cameron Cox

I don't think even real life could hold up against your fragile suspension of disbelief.

John Lopez
John Lopez

I feel like this guy read the fucking pastebin and didn't realize that it was suppose to be a summary.

Henry Howard
Henry Howard

Alright I'm fucking done, I'm literally going to re-type the same shit again over and over if this keeps up.

Jack Jackson
Jack Jackson

I feel like the guy didn't even do that and just comes to the threads to shitpost, with all his knowledge being based on here say.

Jace Scott
Jace Scott

I don't understand why all of Sup Forums likes this shitty generic moe edgy anime. Its a fucking light novel adaptation

Jack Young
Jack Young

Because it's a suffering anime and we're all masochists.

Brandon Perez
Brandon Perez

I feel like I'm running circles when trying to argue with these people Jesus Christ.

Owen Gutierrez
Owen Gutierrez

Okay you could not be anymore obvious.

Isaac Hernandez
Isaac Hernandez

selfinsertfags
I'm in it for the sadism.

Dominic Collins
Dominic Collins

Nice bait

Benjamin Parker
Benjamin Parker

just wait until the 3rd arc and hopefully they'll all filter out by then.

Ayden Murphy
Ayden Murphy

People don't want to be wrong on internet arguments, so no one tries to listen to each other and reconsider their own opinion, but instead use the other person's words as fuel for their argument in order to prove their mental superiority.

Chase Garcia
Chase Garcia

So it can't be yours since you are the one who trust all the stuff?
If it were so important it would've been mentioned there, don't you think?
And you would still not get my points.
ditto.

Camden Moore
Camden Moore

The girl with dog.
The girl was hired by Rosewaal. Most likely she is someone new. So having that dog around suddenly won't be considered that much of a convenience. It wouldn't be strange if Rem had an unusual amount of mana as a demon for the dog to be attracted. And Subaru was bitten because of the smell.

Adrian Wright
Adrian Wright

Receives power up from curse (source: manga)
Holy shit just fucking drop this, your credibility is really lacking, just a fucking disgrace
He's a NEET, so of course he's also read material's thinking he has super powers, but he doesn't, he just works out like an ordinary person

Tyler Robinson
Tyler Robinson

Why does it have to be a super mega important plot point? Why can't it just be world building that comes up again for one reason or another?

Hunter Flores
Hunter Flores

If it were so important it would've been mentioned there, don't you think?

kill me. i'm arguing with a brick wall.

Christopher Brown
Christopher Brown

believe me..it will become shit likeSAO..

Josiah Wood
Josiah Wood

We totally believe you.

Colton Thompson
Colton Thompson

it's not the story's problem that you lack suspension of disbelief. and these conveniences aren't even that bad tbqh

Jason Cooper
Jason Cooper

Holy shit Re:Zero threads are actually the most fun in this whole autist infested site.

Ryan Baker
Ryan Baker

okay random stranger.

Owen Russell
Owen Russell

Probably because Subaru and Satella is like the re-telling of the story of Sauron and Melkor

Chase Moore
Chase Moore

MC of this series is reverse edgy guy

Jayden James
Jayden James

It's shit poster's, I dailied Overlord thread's and the threads in there was fucking moralfag's, now we got a guy who cling's on to the dick of suspension of disbelief like a Iron Dick
Every new anime that's popular will have one guy nitpick to the extreme

Dylan Stewart
Dylan Stewart

That's because everyone decided to join the retard thread and let the good thread die.

If you see a bad OP like this one, do not reply to it. Instead, create a different thread. The quality of conversation will be much better for it.

Henry Clark
Henry Clark

The point about hiring is one I know. The new girl is weird since she is part of the playgroup, and (unless you can correct me) no one on the village treats her as a foreigner. In fact, her wolves are eating kids IIRC. The huge mana thing was a thing I considered, but the thing that bothers me is that the author lets Rem get bitten by the dog, which is weird considering we don't know how close Rem is to the villagers or the kids, and the source doesn't talks about that. You could fill the gap with "He's just a cute dog" but that's my gripe with the author: using a cute thing so that nobody suspects of the cute thing.
Subaru was supossed to be killed because the tamer was ordered to do so, under Roswall commands.

Another rezero fag was using that same image to justify he got a powerup with the curse. That was to justify his acrobatics, club wielding, endurance, etc.

But it is a super mega important plot point (arc 1). If it were world building, it would be more common, or mentioned further in the novel. My point with metias is
Author uses convenient world element to facilitate negotiations
Author forgets world element because it's no longer relevant.
That's basically it. It's cool they exist, but as plot elements they are used once and forgotten.
For you, sadly.
Every new anime that's popular will have a group of fanboys defending it to the extreme. See SAO, AOT, Tokio Ghoul, AgK, Erased, Mirai Nikki, etc.

Asher Clark
Asher Clark

The same problem. Also, that includes Jackie Chan acrobatics, club wielding and enduring beign slammed into a cliff (Anime ep 6)
Honestly, I'm not going to even begin to claim the plot is without contrivances. The whole start of the story is one big contrivance.

Why would Satella choose some random NEET to fall in love with and bring over to a fantasy world? Even if there are probably timeloop shenanigans involved, it's still contrived. However, that contrivance is the norm for this sort of "summoned to a fantasy universe" kind of story that this is. The difference is that it's delivered with a cruel twist.

The situations and characters are all pretty much oddballs. In the first arc, Subaru meets and saves two candidates for the throne, one who looks identical to Satella, and even meets an OP character like Reinhardt. Speaking of Reinhardt, that guy is just a ridiculous ball of contrivances. Just looking at him and his ridiculous list of blessings you can tell this story is meant to be comedic in many ways, even if it's also quite tragic in others.

Then the clown he's brought to apparently has some kind of book that lets him know some vague details about the future, even hinting at Subaru's capabilities. This results in the bullshit he's going through right now. This is probably also a rather contrived scenario, though a world with a time-bending witch and books like that probably allow for such contrivances to be planned.

This isn't a 100% original or realistic story, but it is an interesting twist on the standard fare.
Receives power up from curse (source: manga)
He initially thinks he's got a powerup in every source. This is disproved shortly afterward.

William Robinson
William Robinson

Another rezero fag was using that same image to justify he got a powerup with the curse. That was to justify his acrobatics, club wielding, endurance, etc.

You mean that one shitposting faggot that kept saying he had SUPERHUMAN STRENGTH?

No, he was a shitposter, a really bad one as well. He's also the same faggot who keeps posting fake spoilers.

Mason Gonzalez
Mason Gonzalez

Stop using your fancy new word you learned on a word of the day calendar holy shit dude.
Like, use some synonyms or something.

Christian Gomez
Christian Gomez

17 year old kid works out daily
Can't be the next jackie chan
Fuck off, go to any high-school game match and some kid's pull off some insane shit, just because your old or some shit doesn't mean he can't
Fan boys will defend their anime to the extreme
Well not shit, when we have shit faces like you, who basically walk in like a polygon post or a huffington post drop the bomb and say "I don't like your stuff, 4/10."

Jonathan Baker
Jonathan Baker

Can someone who's read the WN PLEASE tell us if there's ever mention of other Metias to shut this guy up?

Hunter Perry
Hunter Perry

reverse edgy
What does it mean?

Easton Davis
Easton Davis

But arguing with shitposters is what makes life worth living.
Stop moving goalposts. You got called out on the fact that you don't know if metias actually came up again, so you acted like if they weren't important to be mentioned in a brief summary of some pretty long arcs it didn't count. And then when people pointed out that was stupid you're pretending as if you know for a fact they never show up again. Bravo.

Josiah Hernandez
Josiah Hernandez

The dog was with the kids. And Rem actually hinted she understands kids and relates to them as she was walking with Subaru. Rem and Ram seem to know the villagers enough considering there was actually one guy with a fan club of them.

Connor Hughes
Connor Hughes

Why would Satella choose some random NEET to fall in love with and bring over to a fantasy world? Even if there are probably timeloop shenanigans involved, it's still contrived. However, that contrivance is the norm for this sort of "summoned to a fantasy universe" kind of story that this is. The difference is that it's delivered with a cruel twist.
There might be a good explanation for this too, considering it's basically the ultimate mystery of the plot.

Adam Diaz
Adam Diaz

There's nothing fancy or new about "contrivance", but I intentionally chose not to use any synonyms for emphasis. That might have been stupid, but that's that.

Quite frankly, I don't give a shit about how many coincidences there are in this sort of story. Plenty of events happen that seem too convenient in this plot, so long as we were to take it 100% seriously. However, I was never given reason to believe the story was 100% serious.

As the story stands, I like it so far. It's not something I see as 2deep for anyone. It is not something anyone needs to strain to comprehend. This is why I don't get why shitposters fill this thread insisting that it be explained to them why the protagonist would act the way he does or try to get into a debate about the literary merit of a fucking Light Novel. How the fuck has it gotten to this point? Why are people trying to provide explanations for things that should be pieced together and revealed as the story unfolds?

I don't mind spoilers discussion or anything, but there's just too many people taking shit too seriously. Either that or they're pretending to.
Oh, I don't doubt there's going to be a good explanation. However, I don't expect it to give any particular reason why it had to be Subaru of all people, and I think that's just fine.

Landon Stewart
Landon Stewart

It's mostly because shit poster's want to be spoon fed, and at the same time, blog post to critique and nit pick like Michael Thompson
Literal cancer of Sup Forums almost as bad as /v/

Sebastian Barnes
Sebastian Barnes

They are shitposters, that is just what they do.

Isaiah Reed
Isaiah Reed

Michael Thompson
I gotta ask, who is Michael Thompson?

Dominic Turner
Dominic Turner

anonymous forum
"He's the one that post fake spoilers and give us fans a bad name"
Calisthenics, wooden sword swings and lack of actual fighting experience makes you the next jackie chan, and can make you survive getting slammed into a cliff.

I'm afraid I see no reason why Subaru should be this prodigy you mention.

Okay, I moved the goalpost. Have you proven Metias exist outside arc 1? Until then, based on the summary, where relevant information is presented, I can conclude they aren't relevant to the plot again, even when Subaru could use one.

Yeah I remember the fan club. Good point. So Rem does interacts with the kids and the dog. The question now is, if the dog bites her, why she just accept that, since it hasn't happened before? Why she let's that happens, since a bite wound would interfere with her work (pain>carrying bags)? Why she didn't got treated (or why, if that happens, it isn't shown) by Emilia, for example, who could had said that she was injured and perhaps Subaru isn't part of that?
I can kinda come with the explanation that she didn't gave it too much attention to the bite, but then again, if she's the one with more mana in town, is quite convenient that just in that moment she's targeted, instead of a previous moment in time, considering the dog and tamer were in the town all this time. All according to Roswall's Keikaku though.

I've got another issue with Drill loli. She could've atested for Subaru saying that Subaru is incapable of using magic, and both Roswall and Puck could had verified that. Subaru also knows about curses, and he didn't used that to his advantage, saying that he can't even use magic (IIRC only the anime has skipped magic explanations at this point). Sadly, the way the show was structured, in that dramatic fashion, didn't allowed for this to happen.

Carter Miller
Carter Miller

its called volume. get a better shampoo/ conditioner

Thomas Wilson
Thomas Wilson

Okay, I moved the goalpost. Have you proven Metias exist outside arc 1? Until then, based on the summary, where relevant information is presented, I can conclude they aren't relevant to the plot again, even when Subaru could use one.
The cellphone isn't even really a metia, Subaru just rused them because they wouldn't even understand it as anything else. And why don't you learn moon, read the novel and come back to us to let us know if metias come up again or not.

Subaru isn't incapable of using magic yet though.

Daniel Hughes
Daniel Hughes

What is a metia? I forgot, do you mind explaining them to me?
I remember it's his cellphone but, in the world, what exactly is a metia?

Luke James
Luke James

I think it's just a magic item anyone can use. I kind of doubt magic items will never come up again.

Asher Ward
Asher Ward

It's a device that allows people who aren't innately capable of using magic to do magic things. I can see that being pretty useful to a variety of people.

Luis Fisher
Luis Fisher

Think a magical item in D&D.
You don't need magic yourself to use it.
Metia are commercialized (sort of) magical items for people who can't use magic themselves just yet.

Camden James
Camden James

The cellphone isn't even really a metia
Guys, just to clarify, when I say metia, I never refer to the cellphone. I refer to the things that the author made on his universe and are never mentioned again

Subaru just rused them because they wouldn't even understand it as anything else
And is convenient there are items in their world that allows non-magic users to use magic, like the cellphone appears to do. Do you understand where I am going?
And why don't you learn moon, read the novel and come back to us to let us know if metias come up again or not.
That would take time. Fans had already readed it though, so they could had already shutted me up about it.
Subaru isn't incapable of using magic yet though.
Yes, that's true. But I doubt you would need to be a non-magic user to use one.
An item that allows non-magic users to use magic. I make the analogy with a DnD magic ring.

Landon Fisher
Landon Fisher

Rem has the power of water magic. She healed Subaru during "that". So I think she could have taken care of that bite but not the mana syphon. I can see if Ram or Rem are to go for groceries every other day and around that time, the kid may have appeared. But in that short time, Rosewaal may not have given the message to stop the bite or he did plan to have the dog bite her to see the extent of Subaru's abilities. There are explanations to go about on this issue.

Adam Bailey
Adam Bailey

he did plan to have the dog bite her to see the extent of Subaru's abilities
That's what I meant with the "All according to Roswall's Keikaku" at the end of that wall of text. Since Roswall has 3 days to prepare, I don't think he couldn't had found a way to relay his message. If anything, he could've sent the kill command on those 3 days.
The water magic is reasonable, I can't argue against that.

Daniel Wright
Daniel Wright

The problem sometimes lies with the observation of his book. They seem to interpret very vague things or it was a mistake on Rosewaal's calculations when Rem went to the village (even sometimes he is mistaken). You make it sound like he is a perfect mastermind when in reality, he kinda loses every other timeline that Subaru dies in.

Christian Sanchez
Christian Sanchez

So, I just have a bit of a question here.

Is there actually any way to fix Subaru's mana gate?

Jackson Gomez
Jackson Gomez

As far as we know, a mana gate is like a hymen.
Once it breaks you ain't getting it back.

Brandon Jackson
Brandon Jackson

And a very lethal hymen break at that. It could possibly kill a man.

Daniel Cruz
Daniel Cruz

literally autism

Nathaniel Allen
Nathaniel Allen

Holy shit. Why shitposters are making some of the most nonsensical arguments over random shit that should either be self-explanatory or explained narrative? There some weakest and forced criticisms, I've ever seen. Some even acting like bitten by dogs is some impossible coincidence or something.

Just what.

Sup Forums can be autistic but not this severe degree. For godsakes I serious some of you just trolling with these inane questions.

John Jones
John Jones

But you can't deny he has a lot of political power, years of experience, and that he still has an advantage by having a vague idea of Subaru's power. Claiming that he comitted a mistake there would be denying his experience and political influence, and that he couldn't had foreseen a mistake like that. Giving the benefit of the doubt that Roswall gave the order to attack a "Male" is reasonable too, since he has no reason to attack a female unless he wants to.

I only know that Rosw ordered the Tamer to kill Subaru, and I based the above paragraph on that information

Because it's fiction, not reality, and when it's obvious the author sucks at hiding coincidences a critical analysis shows how bad it is.
But don't worry, you can still enjoy that despise of what I've said.

Logan Walker
Logan Walker

I guess he's not getting it back under normal circumstances then.

What are the side effects besides potentially killing yourself if you ever try to use magic again?

Jack Barnes
Jack Barnes

random shit that should either be self-explanatory or explained narrative
A shame it isn't
Some even acting like bitten by dogs is some impossible coincidence or something
How convenient this thing is what made Subaru commit suicide and get a clue to solve the mistery, isn't it?

Daniel Brown
Daniel Brown

I don't know why people spent so long arguing with a guy whose English is so poor, but the grammatical errors he comes out with are hilarious to read in fake accents. Thanks for that.

Julian Bell
Julian Bell

You become a megumin after using a spell.

Jack Scott
Jack Scott

You just can't use magic anymore.
A good analogy would be to think of an MP bar in an RPG.
Now, imagine that bar slowly, constantly regenerates.
However, if the bar runs out, it just won't regerate because there's no energy left to reproduce.

Daniel Ross
Daniel Ross

By this logic every fucking story ever is plot contrivance because you won't find a single where the MC doesn't run into or has shit happened to them.

Asher Moore
Asher Moore

http://theeditorsblog.net/2012/01/20/coincidence-destroys-the-suspension-of-disbelief/

Joseph Campbell
Joseph Campbell

was your suspension of disbelief destroyed when world war 1 happened? you fucking autist

Aaron Hill
Aaron Hill

Honestly I think what this series is more about is that Subaru is the MC because shit happens to him, not shit happens because Subaru is the MC, if that makes any sense.

Landon Ross
Landon Ross

You keep spamming that book bit literally every great classical work practically ignores it. Being one greatest offenders is Marcel Proust's In Search Of Lost Time and that story was based on his fucking life.

Asher Smith
Asher Smith

That was kind of my point in that post. Of course some things are contrived. There's no point in arguing about that at all. Every story is going to have things like that. What matters is if it fits the story and how well it's handled.

I don't expect realism here, so I'm not going to worry unless it gets unenjoyably stupid.

Bentley Nelson
Bentley Nelson

But even by definition, he makes the wrong assumption of Subaru being lazy if others die. Maybe it is more on to the fact that he purposefully let Rem die. He didn't seem too fazed if he made a mistake possibly indicating he didn't. Even dogs sometimes disobey their owners, they have their instinct that they follow. And if you ask me, dogs seem pretty hungry.

Brayden Cooper
Brayden Cooper

Doe not change my point. You asking about retarded shit even a 5 year old would figure out. It's fucking obvious that dog is targeting who people in household and not just Subaru.

Not that you have much of any attention span when post this:

How convenient this thing is what made Subaru commit suicide and get a clue to solve the mistery, isn't it?

No that isn't what made him commit suicide, Subaru decide return to past realize that twin weren't inherently bad people. The rest just details leading up to that point.

Logan Price
Logan Price

Even reality can sometimes appear "contrived" so of course made up stories will.

Landon Nguyen
Landon Nguyen

Mixing reality with fiction

Using a critically acclaimed book as argument, without mentioning what made that book good in the first place.
Let me give you a clue: If it kept you on the ride, without breaking suspension of disbelief, then even critics will love it. This show doesn't.
Why would Roswall contract a tamer that can't handle his dogs though? One would expect he would use the best he has for his plan, given his power and connections.
It's fucking obvious that dog is targeting who people in household and not just Subaru
Why would that be the case if the dogs are under the Tamer, who is working under Roswall, somebody from the household?
Coincidence: Rem getting bitten
that gives Subaru the clue that Rem isn't behind the curse and that the twins aren't bad people, and that also the curse bearer is in town.
He runs and in the end he commits suicide
"that isn't what made him commit suicide"
I think you got that wrong user.

Mixing reality with fiction

David Watson
David Watson

Yes, my point is every story is like that.

Right, I just think silly angle for anyone argue from that POV. You don't have story if something doesn't happen. And just because things happen doesn't mean weren't planned that way from the start.

Ayden Adams
Ayden Adams

You're the only one falling off the ride. Some people have very sensitive suspensions of disbelief. Realize not everyone is like you and get off your high horse.

Dylan Fisher
Dylan Fisher

Underrated post

Adrian Ramirez
Adrian Ramirez

Why the hell are you bring up Roswaal? Even if he's behind this shit, it's not relevant at moment because hasn't been revealed in the anime. So what are yu going on about? The point of the plot we have reached at this moment is there mysterious assailant attacking the manor's inhabitants indiscriminately. Refrain posting fucking spoilers that don't even seem to know anything about.

Justin Gutierrez
Justin Gutierrez

And he also chosen one of the best to fail. Elsa was supposed to fail and to get Subaru by testing his "premonition". Even orders could have been to bite the visitors from the mansion.

Evan Thomas
Evan Thomas

what are the side effects

Seeing as how Subaru is a suitable vessel for the seven deadly sins, I'd say one of the side effects from having a broken mana gate is that he is utterly incapable of being able to utilize his abilities. If his mana gate was intact he could become a Satella-lite.

Carter Long
Carter Long

So, he got screwed out of his chance to become OP unless someone's got a miracle cure?

Jaxson Anderson
Jaxson Anderson

Do we think he'll get it fixed?

Elijah Kelly
Elijah Kelly

How about I put the same idea like this: "You have shit taste and are easily entertained by shit shows."
Is the same thing, except that now you are the one getting the short end of the stick.

Elsa suceeded a lot of times though. The fact that Subaru made it through is proof for Roswaal that he has an uncomparable power, able to get the conditions to surpass Elsa, and that happened when Subaru met Reinhardt. Since he contracted one of the best assasins that only could be stopped by the OP guy, I find fishy to believe he couldn't had made the same decision with contracting a top tier tamer, given his power. He then would just put him in predicaments (like he did when he hypothetically told the tamer to attack Rem) until he eventually overcomes them.

I also noticed that the tamer goes for Subaru directly (Manga ch 14 I think), so in the case he would've said something along the lines of "bite visitors from the mansion" it's weird to think only Subaru has been bitten when the 2 were there. I propose another order: "Bite the male visitor of the manor, and if he's not there, bite any visitor". It would cover both situations.

Leo Lopez
Leo Lopez

I don't think his essences require mana.

Aaron Morgan
Aaron Morgan

miracle cure

No such thing. He forfeited his one chance to repair it. He needs to ask Satella for permission to revert to an earlier autosave before that point.

Then he'll be able to redo everything and he'll do it in one loop with his hundreds of lives of experience to correct any mistakes he made along the way and get a good end for once.

Nolan Ramirez
Nolan Ramirez

How about I put the same idea like this: "You have shit taste and are easily entertained by shit shows.
Thank you for being honest about your feelings.

Justin Russell
Justin Russell

He forfeited his one chance to repair it.
He had a chance?

Gabriel Wright
Gabriel Wright

What other explanations are there for his essences being so gimped?

Jason Powell
Jason Powell

If and when Satella wants him to have access to those powers she might end up doing it herself then.

Jaxson Kelly
Jaxson Kelly

He did, but had to do something much more important to him than completing the repairs to his managate.

Nathaniel Watson
Nathaniel Watson

Like you said, he has high expectations so he had them for Subaru if he has such an ability. The it looks like he believes Subaru will succeed no matter the difficulty since the book may have said, the power to have premonition will make him succeed. So he picked probably the best of the best since he wants the most absolute efficiency for Ekidna. He probably made that order in case if Rem does get bitten, Subaru will still succeed.

William Morgan
William Morgan

Probably due to mana but it could possibly be that he is technically human and the rest don't.

Julian Young
Julian Young

What kind of discussion can you have with calling other's taste shit though.
And that's what I'm reffering to with "All according to Roswall's Keikaku". The guy is testing Subaru from the beginning, and I hope manga/anime readers have left the thread. They should expect spoilers though.

Ethan Ward
Ethan Ward

Can we at least agree that Rem getting bitten can be removed from your claims of conveniences?

Dylan Lopez
Dylan Lopez

Why the hell are you bring up Roswaal? Even if he's behind this shit, it's not relevant at moment because hasn't been revealed in the anime. So what are yu going on about? The point of the plot we have reached at this moment is there mysterious assailant attacking the manor's inhabitants indiscriminately. Refrain posting fucking spoilers that don't even seem to know anything about.

Jason Collins
Jason Collins

the guy was testing subaru from the beginning

Elsa didn't even know who Subaru was. Roswaal by association also didn't know Subaru. He was fucking with Emilia, probably because she reminds him of the Witch of Envy that killed his waifu.

But if Roswaal orchestrated everything to get Subaru to meet Emilia and be confronted by Elsa that would be one fucking huge stroke of luck considering Subaru wanders around town aimlessly hours before he meets her in the first loop. If Roswaal is so omniscient to know Subaru's every move in the first loop how would Subaru overcome his test in any other loop since Roswaal can apparently foresee every step he's going to take?

Nathaniel Reed
Nathaniel Reed

So it's not impossible or anything, just extremely unlikely he'll get the opportunity any time soon?

Nathaniel Watson
Nathaniel Watson

Is there a plot reason why the clown guy is doing the pink maid(to create and control descendants?)? Or does he just want his dick wet?

Asher King
Asher King

Third, meta-humor is a big problem with WNs but gets played straight. Most conversations revolve around pointing out how genre-aware the protagonist is about everything, or else it just turns into tsukkomi style pointing everything out.
the MC of RE:Zero is being meta

That's not what 'meta' means. You've taken the definition of the prefix 'meta-' and applied it to the definition of the adjective 'meta'. Ever since digibro made that mistake when describing Re:Zero everyone else seems to have all started making that same mistake as well.

'meta-[thing]' describes that which is the emergent property of a [thing] yet not an intrinsic part of that [thing] (see: metaphysics, meta-narrative). It also means 'above', but in a metaphorical sense (see: metamorphosis). However, when you simply say 'meta' as an adjective, there is nothing after the prefix, so instead it's describing something which is 'meta-itself'.

The protagonist of Re:Zero thinks he's in some sort of 'game-like' world, but he's not being 'meta'. He only ever refers to aspects of the 'metagame' of certain games that resemble the world he's in. If he was referring to being trapped in an anime, that would be 'meta', but he doesn't refer to that, which is why it isn't 'meta'. Does that make sense to you now?

Thomas Lewis
Thomas Lewis

A terrible one, but this is already a terrible one because even if you haven't been insulting everyone left and right, you should have been implying it with your condescending demeanor.
What kind of conversation can you have if you don't respect the other participants?

Seriously, if you actually wanted stuff explained to you or to hear how other people have interpreted events,
then you should've actually thought through your grievances instead of having to constantly move the goal because of your complete inability to explain yourself; that is assuming you aren't just a shitposter.

Andrew Russell
Andrew Russell

Hold on there buddy, at least he accepts some of our criticism to a degree right here

Connor Ortiz
Connor Ortiz

I don't give a fuck about Subaru, I'm just 100% gay for Reinhard.

I want his dick to go hard into my ass.

Nolan Johnson
Nolan Johnson

One of his blessings is that he's incredibly handsome after all.

Cameron Richardson
Cameron Richardson

But Reinhardt is a powerbottom. His sword never leaves its sheath.

Camden Green
Camden Green

I know who you are you fucking retard. I BTFO you in that thread like 3 weeks ago and you're still carrying on about "muh character history." Please fuck off and never return, you, in combination with all the other shitposters who think they are way smarter than they actually are have managed to take what should've been a perfectly normal show with some above average character interactions and story and reduce every single conversation about it into endless arguments about whether or not Subaru counts as a 'character'. Worst part of it is because you people are so fucking retarded you just revert back to square one and repeat yourself over and over whenever you lose an argument, or leave the thread and start a new shitty thread like this one to become shitposting central.

Cooper Green
Cooper Green

Not going for the foxy grandpa.
Shit taste, mate.

Owen Price
Owen Price

As if I couldn't want both of them.

Liam Foster
Liam Foster

Oh god I don't even watch anime that much, but obviously the silver haired girl becomes some violent witch and subaru is cursed as her protector.

Owen Wright
Owen Wright

Subaru isn't cursed to do anything besides stay alive. He can walk away at any time, but the story would be boring if he did so the plot ensures he decides to make himself suffer.

Jacob Bennett
Jacob Bennett

Even if he ran away, he would keep coming back to life over and over, and that time he'd lose an entire life he'd built for himself. Centuries and millenniums of this would still drive him insane, just much more slowly. There is no escape from the suffering.

Connor Butler
Connor Butler

How is that worse than what Subaru is doing now? He's still going to spend centuries and millennia suffering by your estimation, except he also has to deal with the crazy people that want him to suffer more.

Brandon Morris
Brandon Morris

Not him, but have we forgotten that he is also being hunted down by the clown?

Charles Wright
Charles Wright

The clown isn't omniscient so I don't see how that's a big problem for someone who can change the future.

Aiden Collins
Aiden Collins

Should I read the manga meanwhile or will I ruin the anime for me if I read ahead?

Is the manga even still ahead of the anime?

How well written/translated is the LN?

Jacob Phillips
Jacob Phillips

That WEG is perfect.

Ian Garcia
Ian Garcia

It's not really about better or worse, just that Subaru is fucked no matter what and his best home is for a slightly less fucked life. End result of despair and insanity is the same no matter what though.

Brayden Davis
Brayden Davis

Read ahead. While it will lose shock value it will make the suffering and pain much more potent. That is my current experience at least.

Michael Ramirez
Michael Ramirez

Which chapter would last weeks episode be in the manga?

David Nguyen
David Nguyen

Manga: Chapter 12 page 22
WN: Arc 2 Chapter 29

Luke Carter
Luke Carter

The manga does a lot of gruesome stuff uncensored. You should read from arc 2 manga

Gavin Gonzalez
Gavin Gonzalez

Where is the WN translated
im sorry im incompetent

Joshua Martin
Joshua Martin

Is this the second season of something else? From the 1st episode I felt lost about everything. Like who is satella and why was Subaru calling Emilia by that name?

Nicholas Scott
Nicholas Scott

第二章30 『ナツキ・スバルの道化ぶり』

The first clown Natsuki Subaru

第二章31 『道化の慟哭』

Wailing of the Clown

Episode 8 will destroy people. Fucking /sp/

Ayden Nelson
Ayden Nelson

Nowhere faggot.

William Rivera
William Rivera

None, there is no version of the translated WN. You have to learn moon if you wanna red it, sorry freind.

Jose Williams
Jose Williams

Is it really going to be delayed everywhere? Why would it effect the other channel it's broadcasted on?

Matthew Wilson
Matthew Wilson

who is satella and why was Subaru calling Emilia by that name?
Subaru asks what her name is during episode 1 and she tells him it's Satella. That'll all make sense by the end of episode 3.

Make sure you didn't miss the second half of the first episode btw. It's ~50 minutes long and some streaming sites split it into two parts.

Bentley Peterson
Bentley Peterson

I suggest re-reading the entirety of arc 2 when it comes to the manga. You won't regret it.

Lincoln Peterson
Lincoln Peterson

Reread arc 2. The show missed alot of stuff that the manga will fill you in on.

Camden Cooper
Camden Cooper

Yes, apparently a Japanese player is playing and its a pretty big event. I hope he loses. I want my episode 8.

Isaiah Lee
Isaiah Lee

Is the manga translated? How much can I read without the anime being spoiled?

Hunter Reed
Hunter Reed

Doing that, thanks

Anthony Campbell
Anthony Campbell

Like the other user said re-read up until chapter 12 page 22, the manga is translated up to chapter 15 of arc 2.

Adam Kelly
Adam Kelly

The anime is right about caught up with the english manga translations. So you won't be spoiling too much.

I'm surprised you're not spoiled already by this thread, do you never read any posts that are from before you entered the thread?

Connor Morris
Connor Morris

ty

Gavin Gomez
Gavin Gomez

Thanks. Now why does he care so much for Emilia? What did she do for him in the first place? Also does do we ever see satella? She's a witch and stuff right?

Aaron Sanders
Aaron Sanders

Can someone explain to me why Rem went out of her way to kill Subaru in the second loop? When he was dragging his feet to Emilia's room, couldn't she have just called out and ask what he's doing?

Was she just pretending to be close to him?

Nicholas Allen
Nicholas Allen

Now why does he care so much for Emilia? What did she do for him in the first place?
He's a clingy desperate loser and she was nice to him and helped him with the muggers.

Ryder Rodriguez
Ryder Rodriguez

Apparently some witch cultists puke a lot, so he smelled and looked like one.

Benjamin Evans
Benjamin Evans

He was vomiting, which is apparently a witch cult thing, which since he was already suspicious made him look very threatening and she went on panic mode.

David Jones
David Jones

I'm surprised you're not spoiled already by this thread, do you never read any posts that are from before you entered the thread?
I do my best to gloss over anything that looks like it might be a spoiler. I've still had a few potential spoilers given to me unfortunately, but I know that anons can always be lying so I keep that in mind and imagine that to be a possibility.

Now why does he care so much for Emilia?
He's a lonely virgin NEET who falls in love way too easily.
What did she do for him in the first place?
She only saved his life. No biggie.
Also does do we ever see satella? She's a witch and stuff right?
No idea. I'm still only watching the anime. I haven't checked the WN. It seems to be implied that Emilia might be Satella (she told Subaru to call her that in episode 1), but I don't know if that's actually true yet.

Daniel Foster
Daniel Foster

He was being freaky as fuck and was doing shit the witch cultists do a lot when using their power (IE, puking like a motherfucker and smelling of the Witch) and slowly making his way to a candidate's room.
She and Ram (as it was wind magic that lopped his arm off, after all) went into a panic seeing a super terrorist possibly attempting to take Emilia's life. Plus their home was destroyed by Witch Cultists, so it might have had something to do with that as well.

Benjamin Jenkins
Benjamin Jenkins

In episode 1 she was being a dick and was testing to see how much he really knew, hence the "I need to tell you something" bit before they both got slaughtered.
We do see the real Satella later on, and is noted for looking LIKE Emilia (not identical, but similar. More than likely related, but not the same person) and she's fucking creepy as shit.

Luis Miller
Luis Miller

Ok, I need to post the copy-pasta. Since this calls for a proper explanation.

He actually has an inferiority complex and crippling depression, from the get-go he calls himself an "ugly person" not to mention later on in the series he constantly calls himself trash, stupid, weak and useless. The more cheery and meme-spouting he is, the farther away he is from his actual personality.

While it is mostly for his father to blame, the reason why he is so happy and excited for the new world and why he is so clingy to the people around him was due to the fact its a new life and a fresh start. He can finally make a name for himself rather than live up to his father, not to mention they were the first people who treated him kindly, and a place he can call "home" a place of his own, basically, Subaru still loves them nonetheless. He felt detached thus his reasons for wanting to work so hard in this world and dying for others was to have a place where he could belong. He wanted to have something that was his and his alone that he could work for instead of being in the shadows of someone else. He has a chance. Could have been early in the story but I guess better late than never, right?

Not to mention he craves their approval because he craves anyone's approval. He hates himself and tries to make himself feel better by saving others, it doesn't work and his own sense of worth only grows worse. That's why he boils over eventually.

Julian Perry
Julian Perry

Saved his life from thugs when she didn't have to since he was just a random stranger. He wanted to repay her back and eventually fell for her.

Dylan Cooper
Dylan Cooper

Oh ok. Also holy shit i missed the entire prologue

Connor Gonzalez
Connor Gonzalez

creepy as shit
Literally her only spoken lines so far are I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU
That shit's not just creepy, that's downright nightmarish given the situation.

Lincoln Lopez
Lincoln Lopez

You also have to understand, this is a world where people like Elsa and Reinhardt exist.

I.E. If they are within even sight radius, they may be able to kill you before you can do anything.

Basically, every person could be a nuclear bomb.

And the one's who smell like the witch are all nuclear bombs.

Also, remember this: Subaru is absolutely a person you should kill on sight. You should not care about his circumstances, knowledge, or excuses. He should be killed as swiftly as possible 100% of the time and not allowed to exist at all costs.

This is because he is making sure the reality that the witch wants becomes a reality. He is looped only for this purpose. He is always doing her bidding. It doesn't matter that he does not know.

The 100% right, moral, just, and smart choice is to murder him without any hesitation or doubt.

Connor Cruz
Connor Cruz

Dudebro, why are you doing this in every thread?
Subaru's character explanation is a major plot point and an emotional moment in the series.

By detailing all of that don't you think you rob non moonreaders from experiencing the emotional stories that you yourself experienced?

If they hate re zero that much, let them fucking drop it dudebro. Less complaints in these threads the better.

ps: I know you mean well, but..... you're kinda spoiling in details a major plot point there.

Levi Martinez
Levi Martinez

Only the weirder fuckers even know what the witch's smell is. Note only the Oni maids and spirits ever mention it so far.
Not to mention nobody's really sure what he's actually looping for. All we know Satella (not the witch of envy, but actually the Satella personality) is setting him up to kill her.

Oliver Russell
Oliver Russell

But by killing him over and over you are only giving him more knowledge which he can use to eventually thwart your plans. The right choice is to ignore him.

Aaron Stewart
Aaron Stewart

Why does it matter if you kill him? He can just keep looping forever and ever, in fact he will whether he wants to or not.

Kevin Williams
Kevin Williams

I'm an animeonlyfag, but I don't start threads like this, because I trust you guys when you say he gets better development later.

Zachary Jones
Zachary Jones

rem and ram kill subaru because he might be a member of the witch cult
rem and ram later get killed by the witch cult

Karma's a bitch and they deserved it for killing an innocent man.

Why don't they go after Emilia since she looks exactly like the progenitor of the witch cult? It doesn't take much more than a drop of the hat for them to go after Subaru.

Christopher Barnes
Christopher Barnes

I saw everybody was meta-commenting on their replies based on novel knowledge. I'll try to answer from anime only knowledge.

If you rewatch the episode, you'll see in that loop he was being suspicious as fuck. He knows where shits are in the mansion. Also in that loop, Subaru was not close with Rem and Ram. Then at midnight, he's creeping towards King Candidate's room, so obviously the bodyguard killed the fuck out of him.

Forget the smell and shit, if a foreigner creep towards your room at midnight, and you happen to be Obama's daughter, you bet your ass that foreigner gon' get detained. Now since this is medieval, he got cut.

Samuel Richardson
Samuel Richardson

But Rem don't know that.

Levi Richardson
Levi Richardson

Its almost as if Subaru nobody knows what his power is (yet). Who would've thought.

Cameron Mitchell
Cameron Mitchell

Because he does. If you're that impatient I can spoil you on the whole thing if you want.

Jack James
Jack James

dumbasses in charge of solving problems
Re:zero thread never fails.
Right course of action is to put him in coma with life sustain.

Jack Ramirez
Jack Ramirez

Naw, don't.

I want to see it happen with my eyes instead of being spoiled.

Juan Cook
Juan Cook

Actually it's the most spoiler free copy pasta you'll ever get. Since nobody is going to air Subaru's home life.

Sebastian Hernandez
Sebastian Hernandez

Right course of action is to put him in coma with life sustain.
Of course, but keep in mind that no-one knows what his power is.

Connor Brown
Connor Brown

Why would they want to attack Emilia when she looks like the one they worship? If they did anything at all to Emilia it would probably be in support honestly, especially since she most likely does have a strong connection to Satella, she might even be Satella.

Robert Edwards
Robert Edwards

Sorry bro, people that actually read "actual literature", (heh are you being serious?), they would pick up small details in the 7 episodes that have already aired and won't have stupid complaints after another.

A legit complaints I would gladly entertain as a Novel reader but it's plainly OBVIOUS to people that read "actual literature" that Subaru bottled shit up in the past 7 episodes. Also plainly OBVIOUS why Rem and Ram kill the fuck out of him.
If you read actual literature, you will noticed those too.

Complain about bad decision making or bad writing could and may be legit at some point in the series (dumbass Arc 3), but as of the episodes that has been aired, it's all been pretty solid so, these "actual literature" camp you're describing, yeah they ain't here.

Jason Perez
Jason Perez

One day, he will die, and then he will loop back again.

You have to make him immortal before you put him in the coma.

Andrew Harris
Andrew Harris

Sorry, the reason that copypasta was made was because alot of the WNfags agreed upon it. It doesn't spoil anything too substantial other that what he really is like from the get-go. Not to mention alot of WNfags are tired of trying to type what Subaru is like properly without spoiling shit, thus this was made.

Justin Harris
Justin Harris

I'm talking about the twins going after Emilia.

They killed Subaru because he smelled evil. Emilia looks evil. Why the double standard? Or did they already try to kill her by letting her go into town unattended?

Alexander Hernandez
Alexander Hernandez

Of course, but keep in mind that no-one knows what his power is.
That's probably one of the reasons why he isn't allowed to tell anyone, now that I think about it. If no one can find out, they won't bury him alive or shoot him into space.

Carson Wright
Carson Wright

People that read actual literature and are triggered hard by the writing. This group is often comprised of crossboarders and are new to anime, so they have no investment or attachment in the series or the characters. Often give the most objective-based criticisms.
Bullshit. It's almost uncanny how each new episode of Re:Zero has effortlessly addressed every single criticism supposed critics have thrown at it. The writing in Re:Zero is far beyond what most people expected from it, and is holding true to its premise in an incredibly ballsy fashion.

Landon Bailey
Landon Bailey

Doing their job. Their master supports her so they support her too. At this point, I think no one really believes Emilia is connected with the witch beyond her unfortunately similar appearance, even if they expected her at first the suspicions were probably long cleared by the time Subaru met them.

David Lopez
David Lopez

Neither of those would do anything. It doesn't matter how he dies. If they froze him alive forever or something that would be a problem.

Gabriel Martin
Gabriel Martin

Because the "smell" is only exclusive to those who belong to the most loyal to the cult or is a witch themselves. It's basically your identification card.

Tyler Morris
Tyler Morris

Just let these detractors fucking drop the series. I'm amazed how persistent some of you are in defending the series.

In my mind, the less complaints the better. Legit complaints I would entertain but, "why does Subaru save the maids" and all other derivative questions we've seen so far is just silly and doesn't warrant typing time threads after threads.

Easton Thomas
Easton Thomas

let me get this straight.

loop 1: dies from dog bite
loop 2: dog bite + Rem's ball and chain
loop 3: Rem injured subaru + Ram dealing final blow using wind magic
loop 4: Rem dies from dog bite

there's a problem with this. if its to believe that loop 1 and 4 are the same cause of death, then why is Rem alive and moving at loop 2? loop 2's killer isn't Ram, since she doesn't use ball and chain (the sound of chains) and is also evident from loop 3 that Ram used some kind of wind magic on subaru.

Christopher Miller
Christopher Miller

You cannot get the Witch's scent without working towards it to gain said scent. While looking like someone can just be mere coincidence.

Ryder Kelly
Ryder Kelly

Yes. Frozen alive forever and shot into space or buried alive. I know there's no way of killing him that would work.

Julian Ramirez
Julian Ramirez

emilia has no connection with the witch
the guy who is a witch cult member is infatuated with EMT and risked his life for her

If Subaru is a witch cult member, and he worships Emilia, and Emilia looks like the Witch of Envy, and Emilia trusts Subaru, why would they think she's not connected at all? Better to kill two birds with one stone.

Ryder Cooper
Ryder Cooper

I'm sorry I don't get what you'e getting here. Of course Ram is alive in loop 2. The dog bit its intended target.

Justin Wilson
Justin Wilson

Rem is alive because the person got its intended target already.

Levi Wilson
Levi Wilson

That makes me wonder. Does anyone notice how much his scent worsens from before and after each loop? If Rem had any contact with him when he was first brought into the mansion to be healed, at some point in the loop she'd have noticed that Subaru woke up smelling a lot stronger than he did the previous night.

What would the implications of the scent suddenly changing like that be?

Caleb Russell
Caleb Russell

the guy who is a witch cult member is infatuated with EMT and risked his life for her

Except he knew her name and tried to return the emblem back to her, denied payment and asked to stay at the mansion, which is really fucking suspicious from an outsider's perspective. It's as if he has some sort of ulterior motive of being there.

Parker Powell
Parker Powell

that poses another question: the dog knows its intended target, so what makes that Rem in loop 4?

also its possible the dog bite is only available once per day. that's why it can only kill 1 person per loop.

Tyler Bell
Tyler Bell

We don't know for sure what makes the scent worsen exactly, but we do know that in the instanced where the scent DID get worse is when he died and expresses negative emotions or loss of sanity.

Xavier Jackson
Xavier Jackson

Because Emilia doesn't smell like a witch and the actual witch is known to be sealed, so there's no reason to hold the delusions of some crazy cultists against her. That's my guess.

Besides, Subaru is an illegal immigrant. No one would care if he died.

Justin Barnes
Justin Barnes

Alright guys, let's assume there are going to be two (with 25 episodes each) seasons.

I'm an animeonly guy, but judging from the what little I've read spoilers, S1 is probably gonna end when the whale deletes Rem from the world, and Subaru killing himself - but only to realize he has saved on a checkpoint after this happens, and there is no hope of saving her.

But on which arc is the second season going to end?

Elijah Sanders
Elijah Sanders

its really suspicious

He obviously is banking on SatEmillia being the new queen of the land. It's not suspicious for the witch cult to want their patron saint to be in charge.

Jace Wilson
Jace Wilson

You'll actually find out later in the story about that loop. But if you really want to know.

It was all part of Rosewaal's plan

Henry Brooks
Henry Brooks

Its going to end right around the end of arc 5 or the beginning of arc 6.

Andrew Peterson
Andrew Peterson

The ICD-10 defines ten agreed symptoms of depression, which need to be expressed most of the day, every day, for more than a month, for a diagnosis of depression to be made.

Persistent low mood
Anhedonia
Fatigue
Insomnia
Poor concentration
Poor appetite
Inappropriate feelings of guilt
Psychomotor retardation or agitation
Low self confidence
Suicidal thoughts or acts

Fewer than four symptoms is not considered depression.

Mild depression is defined as having four symptoms, moderate depression as five to six symptoms, and severe depression as having seven or more symptoms, every day for a month or more.

Subaru does not have "crippling depression" if he can sleep and eat and otherwise function as a human being normally.

Blake Martinez
Blake Martinez

>>141711377
holy shit I mispressed my macro key. used quote tag instead of spoiler tag. fucking lel.

Noah Hughes
Noah Hughes

Delete it.

Aiden Hernandez
Aiden Hernandez

lel, how?

Joshua Lee
Joshua Lee

Fatigue
Insomnia
Poor concentration
Poor appetite
Inappropriate feelings of guilt
Psychomotor retardation or agitation
Low self confidence
Suicidal thoughts or acts
Persistent low mood

You're right. He only has nine of those.

Noah Evans
Noah Evans

Checkmark your post, scroll all the way down, bottom right.

Benjamin Martin
Benjamin Martin

more than a month

Oliver Jackson
Oliver Jackson

He developed those before he went into his fantasy world. Even in the anime he said that he became a NEET/Hikki by choice.

Jaxson Fisher
Jaxson Fisher

What was the context for that?

Andrew Gray
Andrew Gray

Will you really be like this if you happened to be transported in a fantasy world, away from your troubles? You would still have your negative thoughts, but you can't help but feel better.

The shit happening to him in that world only brought his depression back to the surface.

Lucas Sullivan
Lucas Sullivan

Oh that's what you meant. Generally people die when shot into space, and people buried alive don't stay that way for very long.

Luis Cook
Luis Cook

He was like that before he came into the magic world. Then he was in a cool fantasy world like all the fun games he used as escapism all day, so naturally he probably felt a little better for awhile. Then things got shit and it all came back again.

Charles Long
Charles Long

It was all part of Rosewaal's plan

He wants Rem dead? that would also mean he wants Ram his (willingly) loli sex slave? oh noes, Emilia is in danger then? Plus Betty is guarding HIS library making her a potential enemy.

Chase Rogers
Chase Rogers

How would you react if it turns out that time-looping spell could've been dispelled by Satella anytime?

Christopher Gutierrez
Christopher Gutierrez

I don't know, but he definitely doesn't want Rem dead. Rosewaal is an ass and pretty is pretty much out for himself, but he doesn't want anyone he cares about dying and doesn't take it well in the timelines where that happens.

Samuel Lee
Samuel Lee

Of course it could be, she's the one using it in the first place. But that's not in her interests so why would she?

Connor Scott
Connor Scott

but the dog bit Rem in loop 4!

Ayden Powell
Ayden Powell

Shit, I meant Emilia

Nathan Gonzalez
Nathan Gonzalez

has crippling depression

Before or after the mansion incident?

Jonathan Mitchell
Jonathan Mitchell

Even if she could, he's physically incapable of asking her to do so. Maximum suffering.

Luke Perez
Luke Perez

He vaguely knows about subaru's ability and was putting it to test

Camden Carter
Camden Carter

He has it before, but it's not 'crippling' until around arc 3.

Luis Ward
Luis Ward

How did he figure it out?

Alexander Harris
Alexander Harris

Have you ever heard of the term called escapism? I use it often to escape from my depression for awhile, you describe depressives like they aren't human beings that can't properly function. Yer here I fucking am with a functioning like a normal person. With my happy pills and electroconvulsive therapy, that shit still doesn't let you completely escape it. It's more like a knocking on the door or a bright exit sign that you're tempted to go to but doesn't really make you want to leave.

Even the happiest people you know can be the biggest depressives. The most recent and biggest case being Robin Williams.

Josiah Morris
Josiah Morris

With a magical book a witch left behind that can sort of tell the future

Hudson Howard
Hudson Howard

Here comes this faggot again with his ICD agreed symtoms shit.

Please, leave. Now.

Jace Howard
Jace Howard

Here's the think, crippling depressives can still eat, if they choose to. Crippling depressives can concentrate if they actively try. Crippling depressives can basically do all of this shit if they can grit their teeth and go at it. But the problem is its much, much, much, much, much, more draining on them as a person compared to normal people. Take it from a guy who has a cingulotomy for this.

Caleb Bailey
Caleb Bailey

Can you fuck off kindly?

Tyler Scott
Tyler Scott

If they'd shown him collapsing at the end if each day completely drained from keeping up his happy facade all the time even in private you might be on to something.

Jonathan Lopez
Jonathan Lopez

Is cingulotomy a surgery? Do you still get treated with meds nowadays after that?
-Fellow depressed person-

Aiden Powell
Aiden Powell

Depends on the person, but for me I no longer needed pills. Though it hasn't completely gone away its a thousand times more bearable.

Just make sure you've exhausted all of your options like I did user, its a non-reversible surgery.

Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward

Alot of depressives are like that. Even eating food you like is draining. Because when you think of eating food it feels like too much "work", the thought process of a depressive if goes something like "I have to get out of bed, then get a plate, then a fork, then a spoon, after that prepare my food, then pull up my, chair then sit, then put the food on my utensils, then put the food in my mouth, and chew, and chew, and chew..." all of this while lying on the bed.

Liam Sullivan
Liam Sullivan

What was the risk if I may ask? I mean, it sounds serious that you emphasize the non-reversible part.

Sorry to ask, I have no insurance and is living in a shit country so, my depression is sorta untreated.

Benjamin Robinson
Benjamin Robinson

So in big, do not trust any nobles, they will fuck you into the ass.

Asher Sanders
Asher Sanders

No idea, but if history might repeat itself I could've just gave myself a fancier lobotomy. Since the treatment and after effects is not really fully "researched" into as of yet, and in a way "experimental".

Owen Jones
Owen Jones

If you don't want him to be a blank self-insert, you have to tell me who he is. Say he lost his family in an earthquake and that’s why he cares so much about the people he interacts with in this world.
Are you actually watching this fucking show? The reason he's excited in this world and values everyone deeply is explained quite clearly.

I wouldn't say that he's not a self-insert to some extent, but his character quirks aren't random.

Brandon Ramirez
Brandon Ramirez

Not to mention Subaru didn't even start getting depressed until he realized Rem was the one that killed him. He was having fun in the parallel world, saving his waifu and being a butler. And then he realized everyone hates him.

Once he solves the mansion murder mystery he'll be back to happy fun times until fate shovels shit in his face again.

Christian Thompson
Christian Thompson

B-but he has daddy issues so it's okay

Ryder Fisher
Ryder Fisher

Nah, he has it before he even gotten transported into that world. It's more like a resurfacing rather than development.

Levi Young
Levi Young

Nice strawman, care to read the rest of the thread that did the same thing as you?

Jeremiah Murphy
Jeremiah Murphy

Thanks for the response user. Hope you feel well always.

Juan Wilson
Juan Wilson

he'll be back to happy fun times
It only gets worse from here.

Kevin Anderson
Kevin Anderson

I only like gary stu mcs, some of my favourite animes are bleach, naruto and one piece!

John Gonzalez
John Gonzalez

Did it have any strange/negative after effects for you, or did it just lessen your depression?

Ryan Morris
Ryan Morris

It lessened it by a great deal. Though the fact that it involved burning the chronic pain receptors in my brain is worrying.

Anthony Flores
Anthony Flores

alot
19 matches

STOP THAT HOLY SHIT IT'S ---------------->[[[[[[ A LOT ]]]]]]]]] <------------------

A FUCKING LOT

YOU DON'T SAY ALITTLE OR AMUCH NOW DO YOU YOU FUCKING RETARDED DWEEB!?

Mason Ross
Mason Ross

Huh?

Matthew Lopez
Matthew Lopez

Grammar nazi pls leave

Kevin Carter
Kevin Carter

MC acts boisterously and suspiciously happy go lucky
People actually suspect him of being a spy and kill him

Finally, MCs get away with way too much when random strangers just trust them for no apparent reason beyond, "He seems like a pretty okay guy!".

He should fucking act like a normal human being and tell them that he doesn't know how the fuck he ended up in their city and he has no aims/idea what to do. Additionally, swear some sacred magic vow or the other binding him to Emillia; if possible one of the kinds that kills you if you break the vow. Can hardly suspect him of being a spy then, can they?

Being genki is okay, but obnoxious coupled with suspicious is a flawless formula to getting killed no matter what.

Kayden Wilson
Kayden Wilson

thats alot of asspain

Kayden Rivera
Kayden Rivera

What is he gonna tell him? They already know that he knows absolutely nothing about their country and it's culture, and that his story is something like being a weird foreigner basically stranded there. There isn't much more he could say that they would believe.

Aside from that, at the beginning he doesn't know they suspect him because they act really nice and friendly. His genkiness is just reciprocating that. Even if some magic vow exists they don't want him to know they suspect him, and suspicion or not I'm not sure I'd want to make a vow like that for a girl I just met a few days ago no matter how cute she is.

Nathan Ward
Nathan Ward

"Oh that must be a Metia, the thing we will never mention again in the entire show but will serve to sell your cellphone faster"
"Yes, this metia is worth the same that an invaluable stone that detects royal blood"
This is fucking retarded. Metia is just the name for unique magical shit. And a cellphone is unique to the world so it is worth a lot.

Oliver Baker
Oliver Baker

But user, obviously there will never ever be magical objects in the show again because he said so!

While I'm at it I'll point out Rom and Felt don't know the insignia detects royal blood, though I'm sure their client does, they just know it's pretty and has an expensive jewel in it.

Jackson Jackson
Jackson Jackson

Holy shit this. Yet people scream fucking murder when Rem kills him in cold blood.

William Lee
William Lee

Are there any pictures in the WN?

Jaxson Peterson
Jaxson Peterson

Aside from that, at the beginning he doesn't know they suspect him because they act really nice and friendly.
Of course I'm not blaming him for this stuff until he knows/figures out who has been killing him. His attitude should change significantly now in the next loop.

and that his story is something like being a weird foreigner basically stranded there
"weird foreigner" almost always gets one suspected of being a spy, he should tell them that has no idea how he ended up in this country. "weird foreigner" is a lie a spy would normally go for, no spy would lie and say they either came from another world(I'm assuming Satella might not let him speak about this one)/has no idea how he got here. That kind of a lie is just too much work, and unbelievable, which in itself could be his ticket. They'll think, "What kind of spy tells such an unbelievable lie? This isn't adding up".

Even if some magic vow exists they don't want him to know they suspect him, and suspicion or not I'm not sure I'd want to make a vow like that for a girl I just met a few days ago no matter how cute she is.
Again I'm not really heavily criticizing his actions up to now(even though he's been infuriatingly dense at not suspecting that Rem/Ram could have been pretending all along), speaking more about what he should be doing in the next loop in episode 8. The suicide vow is just an example, he needs to build trust as quickly as he can and get them all on his side as fast as possible so they can face the source of this external threat that killed Rem in the last episode.

Caleb Perez
Caleb Perez

Nope, just the LN. Official illustrations for the WN are elsewhere.

Gabriel Jenkins
Gabriel Jenkins

elsewhere
Enlighten me please.

Colton Cook
Colton Cook

"Hello, my name is Psycho Satan McHitler"
"That`s a lovely name"

Connor Diaz
Connor Diaz

No idea actually. greycat just does fuck all and sperges them out randomly somewhere.

Jaxon Collins
Jaxon Collins

Why would Rosewaal set the dog thing up when Subaru chooses to be a house guest rather than a worker? He's not going to be going shopping that evening.

Cameron Thompson
Cameron Thompson

Yo bait guy is here again. Thought you left.

And you guys entertained his thread till the end? What the hell?

Isaac Reed
Isaac Reed

yet people scream murder when rem kills him in cold blood

Uh.. because it is? Did you even read what you typed? Sure Subaru deserved it for being a stupid cunt but it was still cold-blooded calculated murder.

Robert Edwards
Robert Edwards

SOMEONE gets it. Thank God.

Adam Rivera
Adam Rivera

But it was an understandable murder.

Evan Howard
Evan Howard

And why not? They have the right to, especially in the 3rd timeline when he was acting all suspicious and shit. Plus having that stench stronger in him.

Why the fuck would I fucking not flip out over that?

Luis Ramirez
Luis Ramirez

Someone finally gets it.

Luke Martin
Luke Martin

I love you so much.

so much.

Alexander Hall
Alexander Hall

You've just made my day user. Thank you, I literally cannot stop smiling now.

Ayden Rogers
Ayden Rogers

FUCK

YEEEEEEESSSSSS

Jose Baker
Jose Baker

W-What's so good about this post!?!?

Kevin Butler
Kevin Butler

These threads are such a fucking circle jerk.

Xavier Sanders
Xavier Sanders

CANNOT. CONTAIN. HAPPINESS.

Jack Robinson
Jack Robinson

I wrote it and I have no clue, I wasn't expecting this level of validation. I was expecting more anons to argue with me like the first guy who replied.

Hudson Allen
Hudson Allen

Follow-up question. Who is greycat?

Chase Murphy
Chase Murphy

Brilliant. Kudos to you, user.
Subaru seemed to act from the beginning that his worldstumblering was a game he was supposed to win - beginning with realisation, that first, he had no cheat codes and he wasn't special, second, he had to fight, as stated somewhere in the thread, raid-level bosses on HARD, third, he realised he wasn't stuck in a game, but in Godzilla Creepypasta and there is no happy end in sight.

Dylan Green
Dylan Green

That is, imo.

Grayson Martin
Grayson Martin

Someone finally gets it after the insurmountable shitposting of people saying that Rem is retarded for killing Subaru.

You don't understand how much shit people go through trying to tell other anons that what Subaru is doing is suspicious as fuck and is the reason why he got killed.

Literal DAYS of this shit.

Leo Ramirez
Leo Ramirez

1 min
samefag

Noah Myers
Noah Myers

he was acting suspicious

Did he do anything that was actually threatening? You wouldn't murder someone for suspiciously loitering around a corner. You might keep an eye on him, you might confront him, but to think killing someone for being suspicious is a reasonable course of action is madness.

Angel Torres
Angel Torres

Fuck off, this is my moment.

Adrian Walker
Adrian Walker

You can't control people baiting, you can only control your actions not to get bait. I understand getting triggered (and hard) sometimes, but step away from the PC, smoke, masturbate, or go out or some shit.

The bait is fucking annoying and won't go anywhere for this anime. Especially in the beginning of Arc 3, the complains coming from baiters will be even dumber.

Angel Brown
Angel Brown

Yes, thinking like they are in USA 2016 instead of Medieval times Year who-knows-what.

Ryder Wright
Ryder Wright

With what Subaru did? Instead of going on his merry way, he stalked the mansion? Sure do. He lied with a smile on his face. That is enough of a reason. Why do you think Rem did that then? Because he was loitering? AYYYYYY

Julian Gutierrez
Julian Gutierrez

You don't understand
What I do understand is that you faggots relentlessly respond to bait and shitposting. You bring it upon yourselves. Like Subaru.

Aiden Stewart
Aiden Stewart

You'd like that wouldn't you?

Robert Flores
Robert Flores

You gotta admit this nigga is correct though. It has been days and obviously people should really know the context behind it. Yet the baiters keep asking the same question just wording it differently.

Honestly I was surprised seeing this thread with that obvious bait of an OP.

Those who understand should just stop replying now. You should know it's bait already given like this guy said. Day in day out, same bait, same response.

Jaxon Bennett
Jaxon Bennett

--THIS-- is why Subaru is still actively trying to save the maids.

Levi Diaz
Levi Diaz

finally user gets it!

Jordan Rivera
Jordan Rivera

That certainly is a lot less subtle than the anime

Nicholas Perry
Nicholas Perry

just imagine arguing again shitposters for days, trying to get them to understand just one little thing.

Then come your post, perfectly understanding that very little thing that shitposters kept missing.

its like finding gold in middle of sea of shit user.

Jacob Phillips
Jacob Phillips

Well, internal monologues do that.

Dylan Roberts
Dylan Roberts

nice proxy

Nolan Myers
Nolan Myers

Because helping someone sleep is more important than getting bludgeoned to death

Jordan Smith
Jordan Smith

they stopped his nightmares
the nightmares they caused

See? It's all cool bro. Like it never even happened. Don't get so hung up on trivial things like murder, Subaru was totally asking for it.

Luis Nelson
Luis Nelson

Did they caused the nightmares just by touching Subaru?

Ayden Murphy
Ayden Murphy

If it weren't for the fact that he smelled like super hitler, then I wouldn't agree with them killing him. Watching him as they were, however, is okay.

Carson Gutierrez
Carson Gutierrez

just by touching

They did a little more than that user.

Anthony Young
Anthony Young

as if you havent heard news that people getting killed due to simple misunderstanding.

this is more than that, but eh fuck you with your slow brain.

Joshua Richardson
Joshua Richardson

Well yeah of course, I think I forgot to address the point of the stench in my post.

Again, I think it's something he should be straight with them about.

Isaiah Walker
Isaiah Walker

Killing someone isn't a simple misunderstanding. It's a grave misunderstanding. You're trivializing what Rem did. That entire timeline is fucked now. Think about it, there's no Subaru to stop the Witch Cult in that world now.

Brayden Jenkins
Brayden Jenkins

Oh is that how it works? Multiple timelines? I thought it was a literal reset

Elijah Cook
Elijah Cook

it was a literal reset

Brayden Scott
Brayden Scott

Correction, we don't know yet. Everything shown to Subaru by Ekidna could be a simulation. We honestly don't know if its a separating timeline or not.

David Myers
David Myers

there is no time travel bullshit its like loading the savefile again

Luke Martin
Luke Martin

you made my point user, what outsider think is a simple misunderstanding (ehh how could she killed him just for that reason!?), might be a grave misunderstanding from the killer perspective(Fuck you for having witch scent, you fucking witch cultist who are creeping around lying here and there) .

Ryan Cooper
Ryan Cooper

You've made my point user. Rem acted far too harshly from the reader's perspective, yet from her perspective she was completely justified.

Anthony Nelson
Anthony Nelson

Wasn't that timeline further explored that has Emilia saying to Rem how she did went too far with killing Subaru? Kinda speaks for itself if that's the case.

Jackson Phillips
Jackson Phillips

Finally, MCs get away with way too much when random strangers just trust them for no apparent reason beyond, "He seems like a pretty okay guy!".
Well he did get away with it, because Puck and Betty can determine with certainty that he's an okay guy

Jacob Green
Jacob Green

Yeah wouldn't Emilia be furious and upset if she found out Rem had viciously murdered Subaru with a mace?

Ryan Brown
Ryan Brown

i dont get you two, so are you two agreeing with each other?

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