Is this even possible or it's just bullshit physics?

Daniel Ramirez
Daniel Ramirez

Is this even possible or it's just bullshit physics?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M01RmcKsm2k
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaking_tube
Nathan Wright
Nathan Wright

I assume moving on the side would help, though the train itself is so heavy I'm not sure it would do much difference.
Pretty sure them "pushing" the wall is just bullshit though.

Kayden Rivera
Kayden Rivera

I'm pretty sure pushing works even if they are inside the train.

Jordan Russell
Jordan Russell

No considering the number of people are in the train and how the train's weight is significantly heavier.

Jason Russell
Jason Russell

I can understand them moving on the side, because it would slightly move the train's center of gravity to the right, and this maybe could help get the train back on track.
But I can't see what "pushing" would achieve. For as much as the push the wall, the wall pushes them, but neither is moving. They're not creating anything here, just spending energy for nothing.

Alexander Turner
Alexander Turner

i think they aren't pushing the wall

more like pushing the stuffs around so they won't slide to the other side

Xavier Morales
Xavier Morales

Just watched that part again, I think they do.
But oh well, I'm ready to accept this much from chinese cartoons.

Owen Butler
Owen Butler

They are pushing because of the force they need to do to stay on the right of a derailing train in motion. Or do you assume that it would be easy to lean on the opposition of the center of gravity within a ship? No.

Colton Cruz
Colton Cruz

They were probably pushing in order to stay against the wall, if you consider the angle the train was at they might've fallen back to the other side otherwise.

Mason Gutierrez
Mason Gutierrez

If they really wanted to help wouldn't they all get on the ground too?

John Edwards
John Edwards

I'm talking about the initial push, when they run to the wall.

Bentley Morales
Bentley Morales

Of course it's possible. Have you watch Speed?

Sebastian Reyes
Sebastian Reyes

The way they're doing it seems pretty dumb to me. When I push against a wall, I tend to get pushed away instead. I'd grip on something and pull instead. No?
I feel like I'm thinking way too much about this.

Jack Gutierrez
Jack Gutierrez

all internal forces on a body are balanced mate, all they can do is shift the centroid of mass famalam

to a stemautist like me, this was akin to watching someone push a door that needs to be pulled on levels of retardedness

Sebastian Thompson
Sebastian Thompson

Kek.
Inside a wagon, you do not pushing a wagon itself, you just pushing a wall and a floor in differenet directions.

Sebastian Taylor
Sebastian Taylor

When they ran to the wall they transmitted their momentum.

Michael Walker
Michael Walker

Obviously 'pushing' against the wall doesn't do anything but distributing their weight differently has a significant effect. This is especially important in aircraft, since the centre of mass needs to be located underneath the wing surface that provides the main lift, otherwise the lift will rotate the aircraft around it and possibly cause it to stall.

This is what happened here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M01RmcKsm2k

The cargo wasn't secured properly and slid to the back of the plane.

Chase Rivera
Chase Rivera

No, every child knows that. I mean, moving to the left side of a train is already stretching the limits of possibility, but moving to the right side of a train is outright ridiculous.

Nicholas Mitchell
Nicholas Mitchell

This Russian knows his wagon pushing.

Isaiah Peterson
Isaiah Peterson

They're retarded peasants, they just think it'll work.

Gavin Miller
Gavin Miller

Is everyone who watches this show a retard?

Carter Allen
Carter Allen

How the fuck do those talk tube work on a fucking train made up of different carriages?

Daniel Harris
Daniel Harris

the trains are made of kabanes user
they relayed the message from car to car

Benjamin Morris
Benjamin Morris

/thread

Easton Hughes
Easton Hughes

The momentum they generated was countered due to the fact that they were acting against the floor of the train to generate it. All the force they could generate would have been balanced, unless the train didn't have a floor and they were standing on the ground.

Dylan Hall
Dylan Hall

trains
having floors
What kind of utopia do you live in?

Jeremiah Hernandez
Jeremiah Hernandez

This shit isn't the flintstones, Barney.

Henry Garcia
Henry Garcia

It doesn't matter the momentum that they made. What matters is that the shift in the center of mass got sufficiently moved so that the train would get back on the track.

Them pushing on the wall was a result of them countering their own force within their body of getting thrown to the left side of the train because you know it was leaning towards that side. It was not to *push* the train to the right.

William Mitchell
William Mitchell

nano-kabanes, son

Kevin Green
Kevin Green

Series full of zombies with steel-caged heart and has a 12 years old girl with big boobs jumping around dual wielding shotguns
meanwhile Sup Forums complains about this

Sasuga

Austin Phillips
Austin Phillips

implying it isn't a human reaction
I'd either be pushing on it thinking 'tip back, please' over and over again or trying to get as low to the corner of the wall as possible.

Sometimes you just do things because it makes you feel better. Pushing on the wall is a pointless release of tension and aggravation. A wat to make you feel like you're in control.

Xavier Jenkins
Xavier Jenkins

Easy. At both end of every carriage there's a relays office. They receive any message sent and write it down. They then attach it to a carrier pidgeon that flies to the next carriage. The relays office there receives the pidgeon, and relays the information by yelling into their respective tube.

This is basic stuff man. Why do I have to explain this?

Michael Harris
Michael Harris

This.

e.g. pushing a button in a video game 'harder' when performing a tough jump even though it doesn't do anything.

Dylan Hill
Dylan Hill

But the princess's voice was coming from all the tubes.

Zachary Gonzalez
Zachary Gonzalez

Well she obviously used the officially accepted tube override code. When a relays office receives this code they instead yell the message into every available tube.

The code is only rarely used as it can lead to infinite loops and thereby very sore throats.

Julian Reed
Julian Reed

it's anime
young girls with tits and shotguns is pretty much par for the course

Daniel Flores
Daniel Flores

or texting your ex after 3 years have passed because you still miss her even though you know dead people can't reply

Nicholas Fisher
Nicholas Fisher

even though it doesn't do anything.

Pressure sensitive button jumps is a thing. Unless you're playing some kusoge.

Joshua Allen
Joshua Allen

No.

Jack Clark
Jack Clark

Why Hime always end up being meme instead of being actual important part of story?

Brayden Gonzalez
Brayden Gonzalez

Why don't they all just move to the top of the train so it starts flying?

Jordan Anderson
Jordan Anderson

Armor plates are several tonnes a piece
Crew complement is maybe 2-3 tons if they're well fed

Yes. It will definitely work and is not a jab at Speed.

Parker Hernandez
Parker Hernandez

because trains belong on tracks you fucking retard

Logan Murphy
Logan Murphy

So why don't they just jump on the tracks to make those fly?

Wyatt Hughes
Wyatt Hughes

When they run to the wall they're actually pushing the train's floor in the opposite direction making it tip over even more.

Josiah Nguyen
Josiah Nguyen

because that would push the world closer to the sun, killing everyone instantly

Elijah Gray
Elijah Gray

Only if it's static push. If they dynamically move around, they can exert force on just the wall. But the train is too heavy for this. It's possible to do it to to trams though.

Sebastian Walker
Sebastian Walker

What if they all jumped up and dropkicked the wall instead?

Dylan Miller
Dylan Miller

Why are there only human Kabane and not animals
Why are there no animals at all
How do they eat

Jaxson Carter
Jaxson Carter

What? No. If they push the tracks upward with their gravitational momentum, the earth gets pushed down. It's simple preservation of momentum. That is of course unless you do it by night.

William Thomas
William Thomas

Pushing the wall obviously dont do shit since all the force you deliver to the wall you deliver back to the ground, the other way. Standing close to the wall can't hurt tho.

Carter Garcia
Carter Garcia

If you do it at night then you'd rocket the earth into space because the sun is gone

Dominic Morris
Dominic Morris

What about Himemiya of Utena

Jace Cruz
Jace Cruz

Anime is a meme

Leo Wright
Leo Wright

You're all idiots, goddamm. Yes it works. It the train doesn't tip over by the time they're beyond the curve, then the weight of the will pull it back down on the tracks. Their weight only created a balance so it wouldn't fall off.

Jeremiah Butler
Jeremiah Butler

Unless you use the moon as the substitute for astrogravitational rebalancing.

Gabriel King
Gabriel King

I agree,,, only disney make better cartoon.. get out from Sup Forums

Christian Ortiz
Christian Ortiz

You're suppose to lean into the curve, but they're just pushing the wall
They're going to make it fall

Blake Wood
Blake Wood

Pushing against the wall out of desperation, not for any practical purpose.

Carter Garcia
Carter Garcia

Astrogravitational re-balancing implies substituting the space-time fabric of gravitational reality with pretentious subjective ideas of momentum based in a system that is self-limited by the Fermi Paradox

Camden Moore
Camden Moore

these excuses
it's bad writing and you know it, stop defending this garbage show

Henry Bennett
Henry Bennett

Every gram counts.

Hudson Harris
Hudson Harris

you watch this garbage show?

Aaron Lewis
Aaron Lewis

Fermi Paradox

What does the apparent non-existence of extraterrestrial life have to do with a gravatiaionl system?

Tyler Thomas
Tyler Thomas

yes, I watch anime

Dominic Evans
Dominic Evans

Shut up faggot. She said "move to the right side of the train" not "lol push the wall guise XD"

Tyler Cooper
Tyler Cooper

you dont seem to understand

Evan Jackson
Evan Jackson

That principle only applies to subreal vector spaces with limited Kerr constant. In a system displaying multiple alienation effects a near-implementation of astrogravitational rebalancing can be possible under the application of Buys Ballot's law. We can expect characters in this show to know that since they seem to have at least a modicum of education.

Easton Watson
Easton Watson

that mean you are garbage

Evan Gutierrez
Evan Gutierrez

It just works

Jonathan Bell
Jonathan Bell

A modicum of education in what amounts to a transitional period of late edo japan transposed into a pre-steam-punk-esque enviroment matters little. I double even the nobles could describe the non-real differences in constants between the quantum theory of Lewis Convergence and the flip of a fair coin. This is, of course, under the implications that both P. Sherman and Ralph Wiggum were within at least 4 significant figures going by Moore's Law

Thomas Nguyen
Thomas Nguyen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaking_tube

Wyatt Gomez
Wyatt Gomez

pictures
this is a text board you faggot
pictures belong in little kid books
grow up

Mason Flores
Mason Flores

I'm pretty sure this post is a bannable offense. Moot banned someone for doing this in the past.

Owen Walker
Owen Walker

Who?
implying Hiroshima Nagasaki gives a shit as long as the traffic keeps flowing

Jordan Gonzalez
Jordan Gonzalez

Who?

Jayden Phillips
Jayden Phillips

Who?

Dylan Anderson
Dylan Anderson

Are you really completely ignoring the influence of the Gosling-Sheridan-Naughton Act on the educational reforms of late-Edo-Steam-Punk-Japan's railroad school system? The prioritization of quasi-physical effects that govern Watt-style steam-based mechanics had massive influence on the post-early-Edo educational standards.

Jason Hill
Jason Hill

imagine you sitting inside a walmart cart. you can still make it move bit by bit. or imagine if you just jump up in the air, creating no force in either direction, then kick something in mid-air, it will create a force in that direction without reflecting any backward force.

not saying that's how it worked here tho

Brody Rodriguez
Brody Rodriguez

Moot
who is that?
some shitty attention whore moderator?

Brandon Russell
Brandon Russell

this guy gets it

Kayden Martin
Kayden Martin

The tipping point of the train is on top, pushing downwards in the opposite direction towards the rails won't make it tip over more.

Jaxson Miller
Jaxson Miller

That. That is just. Seriously. I mean. For fucks sake.Read up on momentum.

Isaiah Adams
Isaiah Adams

seems legit, why are some anons having an autist fit?

Ethan Sanders
Ethan Sanders

Pushing wouldn't do anything, but I had a situation in a bus where almost everyone was sitting on one side abd the bus driver had to ask some of the passengers move to the other side because it was affecting the bus.

Joseph Cruz
Joseph Cruz

Moot
you mean Moogle kupo?

Lincoln Gomez
Lincoln Gomez

you can still make it move bit by bit
I can crash it with no survivors.

Gabriel Bell
Gabriel Bell

I think it's on the same level of pulling up a bucket while you're inside of it, it achieves nothing.

Them moving to the the right can actually have an effect I think, because of the mass shift, but I'm not a stemfag so I'm not sure.

Jonathan Peterson
Jonathan Peterson

Them moving to the the right can actually have an effect I think, because of the mass shift, but I'm not a stemfag so I'm not sure.
The effect is reasonable. You don't even need to have done highschool phys let alone higher ed STEM

Jaxson Peterson
Jaxson Peterson

Would help wedge them in place so their weight stays in the point to try and counter the tipping. Telling people to push > telling people to gather on the side, because the average person is dumb enough to not brace themselves.

Jason Torres
Jason Torres

The last of romantic tension in this episode made me sad.

Elijah Brown
Elijah Brown

When they run to the wall they're actually pushing the train's floor in the opposite direction making it tip over even more.
to a stemautist like me, this was akin to watching someone push a door that needs to be pulled on levels of retardedness
The momentum they generated was countered due to the fact that they were acting against the floor of the train to generate it.
but I had a situation in a bus where almost everyone was sitting on one side abd the bus driver had to ask some of the passengers move to the other side because it was affecting the bus.
Them moving to the the right can actually have an effect I think, because of the mass shift, but I'm not a stemfag so I'm not sure.
Education standards have really gone downhill

Liam Wood
Liam Wood

You must be 18+ to browse this site
Highschool fags didn't learn about Newton

Gabriel Gray
Gabriel Gray

What's your point? None of those are wrong, except for the first one.

Nathaniel Howard
Nathaniel Howard

Never had a fat guy in a small car before? Shock strut systems don't like being off balance.

Christian Cox
Christian Cox

put mirrors in orbit
converge sunlight onto a single point on the surface of Earth
get an anti-kabane space laser beam
Why haven't they done this?

Angel Collins
Angel Collins

You're bad writing you stupid fuck. That's exactly how people would have acted when facing this kind of situation.

Hudson Murphy
Hudson Murphy

delete this

Samuel Taylor
Samuel Taylor

Them moving to the the right can actually have an effect I think, because of the mass shift, but I'm not a stemfag so I'm not sure.
Not sure of simple facts

but I had a situation in a bus where almost everyone was sitting on one side abd the bus driver had to ask some of the passengers move to the other side because it was affecting the bus.
Sounds like the previous guy
The momentum they generated was countered due to the fact that they were acting against the floor of the train to generate it.
Thinks you can't generate any momentum from running from 1 side to another.
to a stemautist like me, this was akin to watching someone push a door that needs to be pulled on levels of retardedness.
meant to quote the guy he was quoting

William Rivera
William Rivera

If it would help at all depends on the proportion of the combined weight of the passengers (the "live weight") to the weight of the train itself (the "dead weight"). Having them all move shifts the center of gravity by that amount. As for if the running and shoving would do anything? Probably not, since you can't really generate all that much momentum as a human, especially not in such a confined space.

Joshua Bell
Joshua Bell

Thinks you can't generate any momentum from running from 1 side to another
Isn't he referring to the pushing?

Anthony Myers
Anthony Myers

Their combined mass would have no effect on a train that thick with heavy metal plating but it's an anime so ignore that part and focus on the mechanics of their actions.

Easton Thompson
Easton Thompson

No check the guy he replied to

Liam Williams
Liam Williams

Is there any canonical information given about the mass of the train, and how many people were on it at that moment?

Michael Reed
Michael Reed

He's right though.

Lincoln Wilson
Lincoln Wilson

You're right, I stand corrected.

Elijah Turner
Elijah Turner

Can somebody post the webm already holy fuck please. You know the one.

Andrew Fisher
Andrew Fisher

This reminds me of a Hollywood movie where bunch of sailors running from side to side on their boat repeatedly and later they did flip the boat.

Bentley Harris
Bentley Harris

You've disappointed her. What do you have to say for yourself?

Thomas Collins
Thomas Collins

Running into the wall would produce a force towards the wall because of inertia. Simply pushing on the wall is completely pointless. The same reason that if you stood on a tile and pulled it up you don't fly into the air, even if you could otherwise lift the weight of the tile and yourself.

Jackson Rogers
Jackson Rogers

Only space elevator threads get better than this.

Jaxon Bailey
Jaxon Bailey

Not the guy you replied to.

In order to get to the right side of the train, they need to push on on the floor with their feet to get the momentum necessary to move.
This would necessitate an equal amount of momentum given to the train in the opposite direction, but trains are heavy and most of that momentum would probably end up going into the earth anyway.
Once the people hit the other side of the train, from a momentum perspective, everything goes more or less to how it was before.
Now, with a bunch of rice farmers on one side of the train, the train's center of mass has shifted, which, according to the Habanero writers, resulted in enough torque to "counter" the torque the tracks are putting on the train by trying to turn it. The people are pushing against the walls either because the writers are retarded, or it's hard to stand up in a tilty spot, so they're bracing themselves.

The real abuse here is the turns that the train has made in past episodes, it should have derailed long ago.

Evan Edwards
Evan Edwards

I....I'll try harder next time

Justin Lopez
Justin Lopez

If you don't graduate from highschool, you will think the pushing works when its not. The moving to the right does make the train more stable but if you're pushing something while you're on it, the total force will be 0, just like how you can't move a car by pushing it form the inside

Jose Foster
Jose Foster

People moving to the right side yes. The pushing is more of a 'stick to the right wall' thing so people don't get shaken to the other side. Similar to what japanese people inside buildings do during earthquakes.

Ethan Baker
Ethan Baker

I see you are American too.

Benjamin Bailey
Benjamin Bailey

The pushing is to brace themselves.

Jaxson Russell
Jaxson Russell

what is friction

Kayden King
Kayden King

Looks like we'll have to stick something in the burner.

Sebastian Brown
Sebastian Brown

Also conversion of momentum for the second "example" listed.

Ryder Ward
Ryder Ward

Hope you can take the heat

Liam Thompson
Liam Thompson

conversion
Conservation. Typo.

Adrian Cruz
Adrian Cruz

why would someone push something when they can just grab something to hold. Also, you can just crouch and stay or lay down creating the most friction against the floor

Jace Sanders
Jace Sanders

Because if you're holding on your center of gravity is going away from the wall with the tilt. By pushing you're keeping it flat against it.

Brayden Foster
Brayden Foster

...or lay down creating the most friction against the floor
Yeah, that would work greatly in lab conditions where the floor's not moving and shaking and everyone has assigned part of the railing and they do it in non panicky manner.

Jace Rivera
Jace Rivera

This thread needs more Mumei.

William Ortiz
William Ortiz

she's going to stop wearing her based battle gear and go back to stupid looking civ clothes
why

Hunter Foster
Hunter Foster

or lay down
Enjoy the heavy metal bench hitting your head because you didn't push it against the wall.

Josiah Phillips
Josiah Phillips

i thought the walls were made of paper with how easy they blast apart while leaving the fleshy crew unharmed

Jose Cox
Jose Cox

While the pushing was retarded, they needed to balance out the train so that it won't fall over.

Colton Powell
Colton Powell

We don't know how fast the train was going, the precise curvature of the tracks, the weight distribution of the train, or how many people were actually on board. Ayame said everyone go to the right, which would help, however much, weigh the train down on the side that was threatening to flip upwards. It might not have made enough of a difference to matter at all, but in a desperate survival situation you do whatever you can.

Pushing on the wall of the train, while stationary on the right side of the train, would do nothing. The dude who said "push" was some scrub in the back for the train. After he says that, people start slamming into the right wall of the train and staying there. Their initial impact would slightly help to right the train, and he could also have been saying it so people would know to brace themselves against the wall since the curve is forcing them back to the left. If the train tracks curved more sharply to the right, the train would go up more and someone could lose their footing and fall to the left of the train, which would only exacerbate the weight distribution problem. Technically, pushing would also ensure that their center of gravity is as close to the wall as possible. And let's not forget that in emergency situations its good to give people a simple unifying task so they won't freak out.

SO when Ayame says get to the right side, that makes perfect sense. When the guy says push, he does it in the heat of the moment to rally the crowd and aid the situation, though it does seem some of the uneducated passengers are pushing on the wall with all their might as if that might make a difference. You can nitpick whether or not you think the shows creators believed that pushing the wall while stationary made a difference, but a high school physics education is enough for me to tell you that their actions made sense and could have made a difference.

Carter Richardson
Carter Richardson

Even habaneros need a day off

Really though, keep the hairstyle, bring back the yukata.

Parker Hall
Parker Hall

You mean Pirates of the Carribean?

Kayden Cruz
Kayden Cruz

No idea be I see pics posted of him calling him a duck or a truck or something.

David Carter
David Carter

one day such posts will be serious

Brayden Turner
Brayden Turner

that image

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