You're just jealous
White girls love dark meat.
Was she the first anime girl to be BLACKED?
Now you know why Richard Stallman likes it.
she was talking about what kinda food she should make during this
Utena is symbolic for White Europe.
It is the best kind of meat.
lesbians can still receive dicks
Jews now ruin anime
Why is Anthy's hand so big there?
quick someone post-
Yea, but white meat is dry and tasteless. Also, less healthy.
Why what? Did you think this series was going to coddle you with pure waifus?
Casual reminder that Akio's penis is probably 3 INCHES. He's Indian after all.
Don't forget about his street shitting habit.
I feel your pain OP. It just...is. Accept it and move on. I have.
Meanwhile Anthy has an enchanted Goddess pussy.
Akio can't even compete.
Why did she let herself?
because teen pussy feels good
Have you seen Akio flip over a car hood? Pantys droped hard and i dont even wear those.
we're never going to be able to have a serious Utena discussion ever again until the internet moves onto tearing itself apart over some other dumb issue
I suppose it's an older show and everything worth discussing got done years ago. It'd be nice to have a nostalgia thread, once in awhile.
Oh well, in a decade things will probably be different enough for it to happen.
What's wrong? Are you one of purityfags? Then cry some more.
Utena was bi. Just like every other character in the show.
I want more shows to BTFO purityfags.
All girls should fuck girls and guys.
Bisexual > monosexual.
And then we'll enter the glorious age of the omnisexual.
I remember watching this in high school. At the time I was terribly shy and awkward around girls, not to mention depressed and bitter from social exclusion. I thought it was fascinating to see things from the female point of view, and I wished I had the point of entry to even go through the same troubles as all the characters.Then Akio showed up. He was the hero I needed. He was sexy, he was dangerous, he had power over women. He could turn them against each other with a word and a car ride, and implicitly a good fuck. i wanted that power. I wanted to be the master, charismatic and magnanimous, of those silly stupid bitches who turned me down for reasons I couldn't understand at the time. I wanted them to feel as used and helpless as I was.
So I googled "how to attract women". I stumbled onto the PUA community, and decided that if I was going to master anything, it would be having sex with women. I hit the gym, I bought fashionable clothes, and I started hitting on girls. I was terrible at first and alienated half my graduating class trying to game the girls there. But by the time I hit college where nobody knew me I was making some inroads. I lost my virginity by the end of my first semester and had three more notches on my belt by the end of the second. I made it my goal to fuck 21 women by my 21st birthday. I fell short by three but it was still an incredible accomplishment; most men never get that variety of pussy. That was a couple of months ago, I hit 25 with a threesome last week and am going out on dates every other day. Thank you Akio, for setting me on the road to becoming a sex god.
Is this some sort of pasta?
That's even worse. He probably wiped his ass with that hand.
Doesn't look like a country bumpkin to me.
I thought this was a yuri show?
The movie is yuri.
Apparently Ikuhara wanted Utena and Anthy to kiss in the anime, but Chiho Saito wouldn't allow it. He didn't get free reign until the movie.
How fabulous .
Miki is bisexual, he fantasizes about Touga.
tease lesbian relationship
scare the audience with a possible het end
with the antagonist
They sure knew how to make their shit back then.
Shiori has done horrible things but I feel that it's easy to understand and sympathize with her struggles. I loved how in the end, Shiori was enthusiastically trying to mend her relationship with Juri showing that she's not beyond saving.
fifth best girl. All girls are great. Except Anthy.
Anthy is best girl.
We will never have another serious Utena thread
Anthy is literally the best and worst girl at the same time. That's the point.
I wonder if it would have fixed anything if Touga and the Kaoru siblings had gotten it on together in a threesome.
Actually she's best girl and boy at the same time.
Say something serious then.
More like Utena DESIGNATED
Wow. Truly a progressive anime.
Apparently Touga rapes Miki in the novel and Miki ends up afraid of him
Is this a copypasta?
I loved how in the end, Shiori was enthusiastically trying to mend her relationship with Juri showing that she's not beyond saving
She only did that because she realized Juri was the only person who didn't hate her. Anyone would have been fine for Shiori as long as she felt loved. It's not anything to praise her about. I'm sure even Juri knew.
What the fuck.
Kozue wouldn't stand for it. She doesn't want to fix Miki's issues, she's just happy to see him hurting as long as he sticks to being his sheltered self. Touga doesn't want to fix anybody. He'd just use the opportunity to mess up the Kaorus even more.
Fuck, I usually don't mind Touga raping people, but raping Miki, now that's straight up evil.
Shiori loved Juri though, nobody else would have been fine because of her romantic feelings for her. They're also childhood friends. She did what she did out of possessiveness and denial of her own feelings.
Why is Kozue such a bitch to Miki anyway? Sleeping around because it's fun is one thing, but sleeping around to piss off your brother by rubbing it in his face is a seriously bitchy move.
shiori loved Juri
I don't believe it. Was there any evidence?
Because Miki is a silly, dumb purityfag.
She should have licked Touga's nutsack in front of him.
I've fapped to Kozue more times than I'd like to admit.
She wants to destroy the idealized image that Miki has of her childhood self. At the same time she wants to attract his attention (because she doesn't want their bond to be broken) and protect his own purity/innocence, like when she pushed the teacher putting his moves on Miki down the stairs.
"The room had no lights, and no windows. Inside, there was nothing but a large bed – that’s just how Kiryuu Touga’s bedroom was.
The only noises were small, sighing breaths.
“Sempai? Are you serious about Utena-san?” someone asked with a sigh. A boy soprano’s voice. Miki’s. “If you just trying to play with her like you do with me, then…”
“Then, what? You’re saying you wouldn’t forgive me?”
Miki’s breathing became rougher. It seemed that he wasn’t able to talk any more.
Hand in hand.
Hands and feet.
The two slowly shifted their positions.
“Mickey, have you heard this before? When they're just born, babies have no distinction between themselves and others.”
Miki didn't answer. He just kept letting out long breaths.
“As they start to explore things around them with their hands and feet, they gradually come to understand that there are things other than themselves. But to begin with, they think that they and their mothers are the same thing.”
“What... are you trying to say?” Miki's voice wasn't strong. He was still breathing heavily.
“In other words, the process of growth, of becoming an adult, is understanding the difference between yourself and others – breaking yourself free from the world, you might say. Starting to be interested in the opposite sex, starting to hate your parents... it's all to separate yourself from the world of your family. That's the most important step to becoming an adult.”
“I don't understand why you're telling me this.”
“You just don't want to understand. You're bright enough to figure it out.”
In the darkness, Touga's lips curled upward."
so how many times did utena get fucked?
i count 3. first time was with Akio, the second time was with Touga (when they visited the arena at night) and the third time was again with Akio, after their horse ride together.
In the last episode she's following Juri at a close distance and learns to fence under her, and official art that shows them from the last episode standing together in their fencing outfits and smiling.
Also from Ikuhara:
I finally realized the truth.
To think that she loved me back! What a miracle! But…
“The loser in love is the one who lets their heart be ruled by it.”
Everyone’s adopted a provocative attitude towards someone of the opposite sex that they like at least once or twice, to get that person to notice them. So it’s okay if I do that.
This love will crumble if we touch. But when people don’t touch, the love eventually dies away.
That’s why I decided to keep your love prisoner. To make sure that you love me forever.
That game will make our love “eternal.” I’m sure of it.
We were “lovers lost from the beginning.”
Poo In The Loo
Akio smells like _____
Anthy smells like _____
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
Tea infused with rose petals
Semen and shit
Curried poo in the loo
Utena's vaginal fluids
Pretty sure it was consensual.
Fuck you Touga
Because unlike most Anime today, Utena is not about dick and girls properly designated to stimulate it, but rather it's an anime trying to tell a story and doesn't give a fuck about its emotional immature audience, but rather it tells them to GTFO and stop being an immature manchildren (among many things).
Ikuhara likes black/brown dicks?
Nothing wrong with brown dick. In fact, it's the best kind of dick.
Brown > White > Black
Now I'm curious, I should try brown dick sometimes.
even the ones that don't live in the sticks do it there. trust me on that. never touch brown people's left hand.
most men never get that variety of pussy
iirc average man fucks 100 or something like that
this is why everyone has herpes & warts
not avoiding sexual intercourse at all cost
Get on my level.
He had a relationship with Tokiko. That makes him bi.
She only got fucked once.
It was never implied that the she got some during the horse ride or that Touga ever had his way with her.
Reminder that Ruka did nothing wrong.
He pretty much did everything wrong, the way he went about things was scummy.
he'd get detained in UK with this chin
he raped a lesbian, so he is okay in my book.
He sacrificed both his reputation and his life to ensure that Juri would be happy.
That's pretty admirable.
I spent all series waiting for her to turn into a car, right up until the last epsiode, only to find out it only happens in the movie
I need to rewatch this. I was about 14 back then and I haven't bothered since. I'm sure I would understand it a lot more but the real question is, do I WANT to understand it more?
All these gay sex characters, rape and NTR make me shy away.
You're obviously drawn to it, go rewatch it asap.
The gay stuff isn't really the focus of the series: That's just Ikuhara being Ikuhara.
Wow, I didn't know Morinaga Milk was such an Utena fangirl.
Anyway it's not surprising she got so pissed off considering how she wants girls to be with girls
All these gay sex characters, rape and NTR make me shy away.
you are right to shy away from it. just look what happened to this poor fellow
I never realized until now that he kinda looks like Prince.
Yes, it's possible to handle those topics tactfully. Classic literature did it all the time. You're just used to them being used to push a fetish or political agenda probably.
I think in the end Juri is disillusioned with Shiori but keep hanging out with her out of pity/old time's sake.
That blue hair guy is the best boy for making her realised that Shiori is a histrionic bitch.
I'm always amazed that people miss this.
Then again it's usually the ones who think Juri is faultless and everything is black and white.
Juri rhymes with Yuri.
I wish more anime had this kind of sex scenes, or just incorporated actual sex into it. Shows are dripping with panties and boobs, yet God forbid main characters ever actually have sex, even if they are of legal age and both clearly want it. It might sound weird, but sex is underused in anime. It doesn't have to be hentai, but it can show the relationship developing and further the plot, even intricate it, not to mention making it more realistic and poignant, especially if it's a story about reaching adulthood and experiencing love as a young adult. Utena used it right.
And then Yuri rhymes with yuri.
Name a braver anime than Utena.
Mandatory coal burning (curry burning in this case) in order to keep people interested about a recap episode
I find it hilarious that Utena was used goods at the age of 13
freak out about utena losing her virginity to the villain
don't freak out about anthy being raped every other episode
or any of the other scenes that either explicitly or implicitly implied characters being dicked
anyway nanami the best and the most pure
so what like everyone in the show was
None of those characters are the main protagonist though.
There isn't one.
Maybe some experimental 2deep4you.
Nanami is more evil than Akio
killed a cat
Nope, you're out. Maybe she could have been forgiven if it was a dog.
animals are not important
At least she regretted it.
Any of the early Tomino shows really, even if they're not that great unless you're deep /m/
He did stuff wrong but he did it because he's a yandere so I like him.
yeah but she never got any dick, which is the real evil
Tfw you will never have tea with Utena
you will never be Nanami's slave
Why would a series full of boobs and panties want to remind their primary demographic of what they're not getting?
I would be very surprised if there was ANY series with a male MC and a group of girls that want his D have actual consensual sex that wasn't between two girls.
it is important to portray sex as it is, animalistic and primitive.
utena did not dare to do that and instead chose an approach befitting romance novels from the eighteenth century.
and this is one of the many reasons I dislike this animation.
Sex is depicted as a bad thing in Utena everywhere it shows up.
Speaking of which, didn't the movie show the exact opposite? Not only with sex being shown as an entirely bad thing, but also the fact that Utena and Anthy were not able to simply walk away from the school's fake environment they were involved in.
What purpose did it exactly serve?
Sex in the TV was always used by the characters as a means to an end rather than it being an act of love.
In the series and the movie, the love between Anthy and Utena was genuine- whether you see that love as romantic or not- which means that sex between then could only be seen as a good thing.
Besides, the film wasn't all pro-sex. The scene between Touga and Shiori hardly had a positive vibe and that was because that sex was not a product of genuine love.
Are you dumb?
I'm not sure exactly what you're asking here. The movie is very compressed.
What did that symbolize. I legitimately didn't get that.
Akio is also a deity so you know probably 10
Not everything has to symbolize something user.
Because Utena is growing up and experimenting with new relationships. Perhaps Akio calls himself "End of the World" because he represents that loss of childhood innocence.
She mentioned three things:
Just let that sink in for a minute.
Establish a contrast, guilt.
It didn't symbolize anything.
Utena was simply desperately trying to think of something else, because she just fucked Akio, and while she essentially wanted it in the moment, he used her and is a perfect example of why statutory rape is a thing.
He basically pressured her into it. It's telling that in the last episodes her sin isn't this scene, but other parts.
Again, it's just her going into denial, and it made for a damn good reveal.
She does wanna fix him, but she doesn't really understand how and believes it's as simple as getting him to rely on her.
All these gay sex characters, rape and NTR make me shy away.
Its called being FABULOUS you goddamn plebeian.
I saw it as a way to show she was embarassed. She's obviously desperate to fill the silence (and possibly get away from her own thoughts) with whatever conversation topic she can think of.
wasn't she being raped?
I need to rewatch this shit now that I've finished Utena. Currently my power ranking is Utena>YKA>Penguindrum but I need to re-evaluate the last two to make sure
I consider Penguindrum the worst because it felt like it went nowhere for 13 episodes and then suddenly PLOT, NTR, INCEST and a giant fuck you to the audience
Mikage loves tokiko, finding out that she slept with akio got to him
For me it's Utena>Penguindrum>Yurikuma.
Lesbian Bear Storm felt too rushed and while watching it, I felt that it was missing something the entire time, can't quite pinpoint what.
Also helps to watch it right after Penguindrum, there are a lot of similarities and overlap in terms of the content.
Ranking Ikuhara anime:
1. Last 2/3 of Utena
2. Second half of Penguindrum
3. Adolesence of Utena
4. Yuri Kuma Arashi
5. First half of Penguindrum
6. First third of Utena
can anyone make a good-tier gif of that scene?
I could hear the car's engine
there are a lot of similarities and overlap in terms of the content
That sums up all of Ikuhara's work in general. I liked Penguindrum, but one of my biggest problems with it was how it felt like it was trying to mimic Utena rather than be it's own thing. There are characters, symbols and even scenes that are directly ripped from Utena.
I really hope that Ikuhara tries something new with whatever he works on next.
I can see why that could irritate some people, but I'm personally a sucker for such self-references and continuity. Almost feels like his anime are all set in the same universe and expand upon each other, while having separate stories to convey.
I also hope that he tries something new (with a good budget and more episodes to work on than he has with Yurikuma) but if it's too different stylistically, it just won't be the same.
In a scale of 1 to 10 how much incest this series has?
I dropped it because of all the sexual tension between literally every character
There's three incest-y relationships if you want some references
A reminder that Akio did nothing wrong and he was rewarding Anthy by allowing her to have sex with him!
Holy shit this is zoroastrian tier, it's way to much
Enough to disgust the show's biggest brocon.
This was a anime geared towards girls am I correct?
How they reacted with all the incest?
and while she essentially wanted it in the moment, he used her and is a perfect example of why statutory rape is a thing.
I agree that statutory rape is a reasonable law, but when you put it like this you make it sound like it's okay for someone to call rape after they regret having sex.
She was also just underage.
I want to
be friends with Nanami.
They were less shocked by it than they were by the antagonist boning not blood related main girl.
OP pic related.
Not under Japanese law, she wasn't.
I can see it
Not this again.
How was Miki incestuous? Maybe I'm forgetting something but I seem to recall he didn't want to give his imouto the D, unless this includes the movie as well.
I came with a method in order for those to prevent incest from happening between a brother and a sister, it's quite simple one of the siblings simply has to not be too nice with the other, it doesn't need to torment the other just enough so no romantic feelings begins.
Miki's feelings weren't too raunchy, but he wanted Anthy because she was similar to his idealised image of Kozue.
Thanks incest anime. Now I'm sure I'll be overly cautious and suspicious of my own children. If I ever get children.
Just don't make them play the piano.
Simply growing up together is as good as guaranteed to make sure things never take a turn towards romance. Incest is a fetish for the lone child.
I watch Utana last year. I feel so hollowed after watching episode 33. I kept thinking those scenes for days. I can't get it out of my mind. It made me feel kind of sad.
But I love the conclusions of the show, they grew up and life goes on.
Or have a private planetarium
This show had so many bitches and whores, males and females
Kozue, for being a bitch for not getting Miki's D
Shiori, being a manipulative bitch towards Juri
Akio, for being a manchild "muh revolutionize the world"
Touga, for being a Akio wannabe, alsoAnthy, for being a useless cunt
All of then are shit
Truly Nanami and Ruka are the noblest ones.
Wakaba and Tsuwabuki were the only pure ones
Neither of them are noble
All of them were great characters user, except for
Saionji. Maybe you should stick to cute harmless things.
Is this initial penetration or orgasm?
I can only see Utena as noble
That is correct
On a side note, Saionji was just a douche that didn't know any better, Nanami was just a misguided and confused child, Mikage was dead all along and tricked by Anthy by Akio orders and Ruka was kinda inrrelavant
Never said they were bad characters, actualy, every character in Untena is very well written but the do have shit personalities
That's not a woman? I thought this show was about dykes.
It's a woman, there's a character who can shapeshift and she gave the MC some dick. 100% truth
I choose to believe you.
It's a nanami episode
You seriously think the Black Rose arc is better than the second cours of Penguindrum?
Big Order did this not to long ago
Not him, but yes.
The BR arc was excellent.
You choose poorly.
black rose isn't "plot relevant" but the actual plot of utena is intentionally stupid
the meat of the show is the episodic little character moments and straight up nonsense, which is what the black rose arc has the most of
I fapped so fucking hard to this that I'm actually ashamed of it.