Macross Delta Δ

Carson Hughes
Carson Hughes

New episode in around 19 hours.

Mikumo will save the day with Messer.

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAOa0j6Ak7Q
http://girigiri.love/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkkqAAyaeNw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR-jPbNCBPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3nfweteZck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMKiLsbWiHY
https://a.pomf.cat/ifitgj.webm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKM_QFgTUEk
http://www.strawpoll.me/10276111
http://www.strawpoll.me/10276111
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwAGms0eMuw
http://www.strawpoll.me/10277873
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AiDv0pFi4eA
https://twitter.com/macross_matome/status/734242273148342272
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOzNGjj8vcY
http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/85063
Jose Gutierrez
Jose Gutierrez

Preview

Adam Garcia
Adam Garcia

SHINPI
H
I
N
P
I

Adrian Wilson
Adrian Wilson

Walkure vidya: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAOa0j6Ak7Q

Jackson Gonzalez
Jackson Gonzalez

I'll cum inside Mikumo

Brody Green
Brody Green

You'll do nothing of the sort.

Jayden Ramirez
Jayden Ramirez

Kaname's VA is so ugly.

Isaiah Campbell
Isaiah Campbell

kaname is ugly too

Michael Lewis
Michael Lewis

I can

Hudson Baker
Hudson Baker

http://girigiri.love/

Joseph Bennett
Joseph Bennett

UTA WA

Ayden Sanders
Ayden Sanders

But you will refrain from doing it.

Isaiah Howard
Isaiah Howard

GENKI!

Leo Allen
Leo Allen

8 épisodes and no one died

Joseph Torres
Joseph Torres

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkkqAAyaeNw

Joseph Foster
Joseph Foster

Messer killed the fun.

Gavin Allen
Gavin Allen

Bellri died

Caleb Lewis
Caleb Lewis

search for new stuff on Twitter
get this
We Hikari Tower now!

Carson Sullivan
Carson Sullivan

Is there anymore video's from the live performance?

Ian Cruz
Ian Cruz

Stahp! Ur Traumatizing meh!

Eli James
Eli James

Something is lacking

A dancing Hayate

William Ross
William Ross

Love

David Morales
David Morales

MakuLoss
Lyrics of GiriGiri AI parodied
My sides

Matthew Butler
Matthew Butler

disgusting.

Samuel Ward
Samuel Ward

Which one is the tightest?

Thomas Brooks
Thomas Brooks

ONAHO WA SHINPI

Dylan Brown
Dylan Brown

FUCK WEABOOS

Bentley Adams
Bentley Adams

Seems to be Mikumo
Freyja an experienced middle aged women confirmed

Brandon Sullivan
Brandon Sullivan

hitting a girl
since they are all going to die young anyway, they are trying to pile up as many death flags as they can on the way. clever

Benjamin Perez
Benjamin Perez

That's a zentradi, not a girl.

Jace Reed
Jace Reed

Who is the fatty wearing the yellow dress?

Jace Powell
Jace Powell

Why do people keep repeating this? Does it sound funny in English?

Jack Ross
Jack Ross

Mirage doesn't count.

Jose Cox
Jose Cox

Hikari Tower
What about Reiko Yaminoma?

Ethan Hernandez
Ethan Hernandez

Theo's got an abrasion on his face.
Looks like they're just butthurt because their superior Windemerian physiques couldn't save them from getting clocked in the face.

Jeremiah Evans
Jeremiah Evans

That's not an abrasion, it's a tattoo (and both of them have one)

Hudson Bailey
Hudson Bailey

Wait, so Mikumo has organic design and the Freija one is more, like, industrial-esque? Something to think about

Jordan Edwards
Jordan Edwards

I think one is a vagigu and the other is an anusaru.

Isaiah Russell
Isaiah Russell

Obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR-jPbNCBPE

Liam Diaz
Liam Diaz

what about the russian windemerean

Asher Torres
Asher Torres

New hotness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3nfweteZck

Anthony Gonzalez
Anthony Gonzalez

omitting Reirei

Ayden Cruz
Ayden Cruz

Wow, this video highlights Freyja and Mikumo's harmonization. Their synchronization is crazy!

Joshua Bennett
Joshua Bennett

What was everyones first impression of Mikumo's hair? And what theories did you guys have about it at first, without any prior knowledge of protoculture theories etc?

Adam Bennett
Adam Bennett

Android has been the most popular theory. Which doesn't make any sense since machines shouldn't be able to generate biological fold waves.

Tyler Ortiz
Tyler Ortiz

Generic anime hair.
Almost all anime girl's haircuts are either impossible or extremely hard to maintain and would never be used in daily life.

Colton Taylor
Colton Taylor

That she is from Windermere.

Grayson Price
Grayson Price

Freyja could be descirbed as being Jonathan Joestar, while Mikumo is moe Joseph Joestar.

Robert Bailey
Robert Bailey

what are those eerie sounds in the background at around 2:10

Joseph Turner
Joseph Turner

It's anime so it didn't surprise me.

Tyler Flores
Tyler Flores

What was everyones first impression of Mikumo's hair?
I still think it is the adult form of green's space octopus

Noah Johnson
Noah Johnson

That I want to see her strap Frejya down with her tentacle hair and rape her with a giant futa cock made of hair...

Josiah Harris
Josiah Harris

I can't believe that much smug fits into only 40KB.

Noah Gutierrez
Noah Gutierrez

I remember people going crazy when they first saw Mikumo flying on the mech. Now people are like it only seems natural that she would.

Jaxson Powell
Jaxson Powell

According to Bogue, this is a traitor.
Should I believe him?

Kevin Bailey
Kevin Bailey

Well, she left before the war started, so maybe it's not that bad.

Jackson Robinson
Jackson Robinson

100% my type. Also such majestic person is truly worthy of being called an idol.

Jacob Baker
Jacob Baker

if i pre order the upcoming walkure album, will it be in cd form?

i can't remember the last cd I bought

Justin Williams
Justin Williams

W-what is this?

Lincoln Young
Lincoln Young

イッちゃうかもね

Luis Sanchez
Luis Sanchez

Maybe they'll release Bokura no Senjou, Cosmic Movement or Walküre Attack in digital form before the album goes on sale, r- right?

Michael Barnes
Michael Barnes

When I saw it could turn into blades I just thought "SIVIL"

Alexander Hernandez
Alexander Hernandez

So why aren't the BDs higher? Feels like Walkure is really a thing in nipland right now

Jose Hernandez
Jose Hernandez

Because BD is coming in two months.

Daniel Gomez
Daniel Gomez

Explain why you like Mikumo without resorting to using meme words.

Ian Morgan
Ian Morgan

歌は神秘

Dominic Lee
Dominic Lee

She's absolutely perfect

Hudson Garcia
Hudson Garcia

10/10

Luke Morgan
Luke Morgan

I don't like her as much as I'm curious about her

Ayden Morales
Ayden Morales

I neither like nor dislike Mikumo.

Jace Ortiz
Jace Ortiz

Still two months left. But Walkure having been so well-received is good. I didn't expect them to do this well.

Adrian Evans
Adrian Evans

So perfect

Lincoln Allen
Lincoln Allen

She is mysterious - I'm curious. She is Gen Fudo of Macross Delta.

Zachary Smith
Zachary Smith

She's hot and mysterious. What's not to like?

Christian Howard
Christian Howard

SHINPI
H
I
N
P
I

If I repeat it often enough it'll turn into a meme!

Lincoln James
Lincoln James

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMKiLsbWiHY
Looking back at the old trailer it looks like the Aerial Knights will attack Ragna at some point.

Julian Diaz
Julian Diaz

Gen Fudo
A lying piece of shit and the true villain of the story?

Thomas Sanchez
Thomas Sanchez

神秘

Anthony Collins
Anthony Collins

The ones that talks scriptive.

Hudson Thompson
Hudson Thompson

What is the difference between 神秘 and 謎

Austin Perry
Austin Perry

I'm not that good with words, but I'll try. It's how much she puts into her singing. Even when giant robots fighting she's ready to sing. She's gonna be singing even when everything around her falls apart and dangers that oppose her she meets with "now you've done it". She's even ready to be mean to Freyja because she wants her to meet those standards. This unshakable spirit is what I truly admire and it's akin to a warrior's but is put into a very feminine thing. She's fighting a battle quite different from the soldiers. Actually that's quite simillar to Basara, who I also respect a lot (boy did I listen to his song).
But despite that, it's not like she wants people to listen to her songs, no, she LETS them to listen to it, because it's the song of a fucking goddess. Or maybe she's just a tsundere for her audience.

Adam Reed
Adam Reed

Maybe!

David Powell
David Powell

the latter's nazo

best translated as an enigma or something you don't understand. Muh shinpi is more elusive, secretive, mystery type of mystery

Leo Lewis
Leo Lewis

The moment I saw her in the PV's I knew she would be my favorite character in Delta. The mystery, her aura and persona, how her personality is slowly being shelled out.

It's clear she loves Walkure, and is very dedicated towards it. She is also willing to risk her life for Walkure and it's members. She has a strong passion for singing and she doesn't let anything affect that passion.

Logan Thomas
Logan Thomas

Sometimes I get the feeling that Walkure is more popular than the show itself.

Elijah Green
Elijah Green

music fags are saying they're only popular among macross fags. Mecha fags are saying its only popular among idol fags.

yare yare

Asher Lopez
Asher Lopez

As these guys put it. It is her unwavering strength and willingness to risk her life towards something she clearly loves. She understands where her battlefield, and does it to the best of her ability. Mikumo is always the first to jump into the dangerous field, which motivated the other girls to do their best to. She's a role model, an inspiration etc. While she may also do things on her own, she gets things done for the sake of the team. Whenever her team members do a good job she commends them, and shows them the respect they deserve. For example whenever Freyja shows fold waves she gives an approving smile along with the "W" sign. She also commends Makimaki etc. Perfect face for the group, both in looks and what she represents in Walkure

Ayden Moore
Ayden Moore

you will never sing a song to Sivil and then taste the fluids she secretes after hearing it

Eli Brooks
Eli Brooks

>>141826118
old receptor
HAGS, HAGS EVERYWHERE

Brody Wright
Brody Wright

I'm starting episode 25 of M7 and the repetitive nature of the show is starting to grind on me. Is this going to get better anytime soon? I can't take much more "listen to my son~G... oh... you ran away AGAIN..".

Jacob Turner
Jacob Turner

How has anyone else not said it yet?

She's supremely confident, has the skills to back it up, and she has big tits.

Colton Myers
Colton Myers

Yeah, you're pretty much past the introductory part. Shit's gonna get real.

Justin Green
Justin Green

I absolutely detested it the first time I saw it. I made myself watch it another time years later, and I'm only luke warm to it. its biggest flaw is that it drags on pointlessly for 20+ episodes, then gets decentish towards the end. There are some good episodes here and there, but overall I just don't really care for it.

Jonathan Hernandez
Jonathan Hernandez

As a fan of Plus I must say I've also been enjoying the little musical easter eggs. It's nice to see one of the series actually acknowledge Plus in some way.

Camden Hughes
Camden Hughes

Absolute treachery.

Ethan Evans
Ethan Evans

I'd lick Mikumo's armpits

Jace Anderson
Jace Anderson

Ya I've been noticing those 90s anime flaws. It has had a lot of pointless episodes so far (unless you want to consider "character development") and very little in the way of major plot movement. I'm trying to grasp why it's 49 eps long and not 23/24 eps.. So much filler rehash.

Daniel Perry
Daniel Perry

it was more a case of "Oh, we need BGM's besides the fire bomber songs" Eh, lets reuse shit from that recent oav

Leo Campbell
Leo Campbell

Not to mention they play almost only planet dance during those early episodes, which is like the one fire bomber song i really can't stand.

Anyway, as much as a hater that I am, one of 7's oav episodes is probably one of the best episodes of anything ever.

Grayson Walker
Grayson Walker

What's the verdict, patsu or no patsu?

Adam Harris
Adam Harris

Mikumo is a slut. Definitely no pantsu.

Wyatt Torres
Wyatt Torres

pls, it's not the first.
we already got hoina and gori gori and giri giri ai. dunno why this trigger you.

Logan Jenkins
Logan Jenkins

So I've seen Macross DYRL, Plus and 2.
Can I watch Delta and understand what is going on?

Caleb Long
Caleb Long

7 is required viewing

Chase Lewis
Chase Lewis

Who still /wowowowow/ here?

Matthew Allen
Matthew Allen

That's a cruel joke.

Grayson Moore
Grayson Moore

yes

not really

Ethan Ortiz
Ethan Ortiz

I actually don't mind Planet Dance, also the OP/ED are nice.

So far what I'm getting from M7 is more of a FFXIII vibe (which is fine, I like FFXIII). It feels like I'm having to put in a dozen or more hours to get to the actual good part but the trip there isn't THAT bad so far. Just tedious..

I don't care it's canon acknowledgement so it works for me since modern Macross ignores Plus for the most part.

Bentley Mitchell
Bentley Mitchell

Also Dynamite 7 or just 7?
How are they, compared to what I have already seen?

Michael Bennett
Michael Bennett

__me___
https://a.pomf.cat/ifitgj.webm

John Carter
John Carter

Why did you waste your time on 2? I mean besides having a way to say "it can't get any worse than 2"?

Logan Ramirez
Logan Ramirez

Watch all of them in release order. ALL OF THEM.

Mason Jackson
Mason Jackson

so good.

Cameron Walker
Cameron Walker

No. Just wait for spoilers for everything else to pop up while participating in these threads.

Ryan Reed
Ryan Reed

No, it's not. 7 introduces many concepts that are used in Delta.

Ryder Jenkins
Ryder Jenkins

Lyn Minmai
Fire Bomber
Sheryl Nome
Ranka Shit

And no Sharon Apple. The Evilest Idol in history that hijacked the Motherfucking Macross out of love.

And not a mention, not even a musical cue since then. Zero I can understand people decide to forget, but Plus? A travesty.

Joshua Adams
Joshua Adams

Tricking people into watch 7
the madman

Oliver Evans
Oliver Evans

watch frontier too at least, there's fold quartz and if the the spin-off delta manga is anything to go by, there's vajra too.

Jaxson Hughes
Jaxson Hughes

7 haters are so cute. Just because you hate it doesn't mean most people do. The show got several ovas, extra episodes, a movie and the Frontier crossover for a good reason. Also the new Fire Bomber album some years ago.

Thomas Watson
Thomas Watson

You could have gone directly from sdf macross to delta, without too much trouble. You're recommended to try each entry you havent tried as well though

Justin Miller
Justin Miller

I think Sharon's music was banned after that incident and that's why only very few people from specific places know her. That may be why Sheryl knows and references Sharon, because she was not banned in Galaxy.

Ryder Turner
Ryder Turner

If you've see Macross DYRL I just recommend watching episode 36 of the original series. Specifically the last 5 minutes. Definetly the most touching ending to a love triangle in the franchise

Matthew Lewis
Matthew Lewis

Definetly the most touching ending to a love triangle in the franchise
Not really since Hikaru is a fickle son of a bitch.

Anthony Fisher
Anthony Fisher

I was actually going for that

Juan Bennett
Juan Bennett

M-Mirage is popular guys!

Justin Cooper
Justin Cooper

banned

Except Mylene listens to it in her car, it's played multiple times in M7. Which was only a few years after Plus sooooooo.

banned

ya.. nah..

Daniel Jackson
Daniel Jackson

Nothing is ever done without reason. What was the purpose of showing this? What does it symbolize? What do they want to get across?

Jose Taylor
Jose Taylor

Is SDF really worth watching from start to finish when I've already seen the movie?

Robert Miller
Robert Miller

I used to hate 7 until I actually started watching it and it's pretty decent so far. Most importantly the music is good which is the main thing with any Macross.

I feel bad for hating on it so long.

James Brown
James Brown

14 hours until the Freyja/Bogue shipping madness truly starts
Are you ready?

Anthony Bennett
Anthony Bennett

Nigga they mention Sharon in the opening of Sheryl's bigass concert to the entire audience.

It's not some secret thing

Lucas Jones
Lucas Jones

Is more...Let's pretend this ever existed and let people forget about it

Gavin Edwards
Gavin Edwards

It's what I've been doing. I've already seen SDF/Plus/Frontier. I Just got through DYRL, Zero and I'm watching the main 7 series then I'll bounce through the rest of 7's stuff so I'll finally have watched everything.

Everything except 2. I'm never gonna fucking watch that shit.

Wyatt Phillips
Wyatt Phillips

Herpes?? They both have herpes.. Feel the Bern!

Joshua Collins
Joshua Collins

hoina

Jaxson Gonzalez
Jaxson Gonzalez

Let's just say they don't bother to insert the songs because the show runners don't feel like bothering with it. That way it doesn't detract from Plus and everyone is happy.

Ryan Clark
Ryan Clark

what? you gonna say it's hai na?
she said both. read the manga.

Matthew Baker
Matthew Baker

read the manga
It's out?
Well shit.

Aaron Bailey
Aaron Bailey

She's mysterious and it scares me and it's very erotic

Brandon Cruz
Brandon Cruz

should still be in the archive, it's just a few threads ago.

Isaac Johnson
Isaac Johnson

Mirage is pure, user.

Juan Miller
Juan Miller

Thanks.
I'll shut up about hoina/haina then.

Nolan Barnes
Nolan Barnes

She keeps looking ar her nails, what is so interesting in her nails that she keeps on looking

Caleb Hall
Caleb Hall

Not after I'm done with her

Brandon Long
Brandon Long

The show is more canon when it comes to events, but doesnt look as nice (less interesting designs and cheaper animation). But DYRL is basicly a super slick looking bastardization of the real story

Joseph Sanchez
Joseph Sanchez

Is this the first Macross a triangle heroine has been sidelined as much? Because Mikumo sure looks more popular than Mirage and more main character-like. I don't dislike her, but it does gives the impression to be a secondary character. Milia never outshone Misa or Klan outshone Ranka, beyond what your preferences, they got fair treatment.

Adam Kelly
Adam Kelly

show
canon

user, what the fuck?

Austin Sanders
Austin Sanders

Not that it's really relevant but I was already watching SDC Orguss which has similar animation, I guess? At least from the little bits I've seen of SDF Macross.

Jordan James
Jordan James

Klan outshone Ranka

Don't you mean Sheryl? Which she totally outshone Ranka.

Klan was the loli zentradi

Adam King
Adam King

Probably wondering how many times she's had to slip them into the vagoos of potential Walkure recruits..

Josiah Turner
Josiah Turner

what part makes you think a movie that has zentradi fighting themselves, split between genders, is the canon version

Ryan Baker
Ryan Baker

SDF is the book
DYRL is the cliff notes

It works for any Macross really.

Series/OVA = book
Movie = cliff notes

so simple.. so pure.

Brody Hall
Brody Hall

I put Ranka and Misa as example as the secondary heroines, the less glamorous and popular ones (vs Minmay and Sheryl). Klan was never advertised over Sheryl or Ranka, or got near their popularity in Japan.

Mirage is literally who tier in merch and shit. To add salt to the wound, there's that promo thing they slapped Mikumo's name instead of hers on her character intro. She's just weirdly sideline when she's a main triangle heroine.

Dominic Flores
Dominic Flores

the original series is anger inducing

the episode where hikaru leaves misa alone all day after arranging to meet her is one of the most enraging chapters of any animated fiction

Christopher Carter
Christopher Carter

What part of "Minmay sings DYRL to stop the war" which is the official version don't you get? That's why it's a legacy song and not, love flows away. That's literally the most important scene in the whole Macross that defined all the successors. TV series and movie are BOTH fictional take, not superior to the other, because they had obvious wrong facts in there. In the case of the movie, they need to cut down subplots, while tv series dragged and went off the non canon rails (that's why Kawamori ends officially the timeline up episode 27 and jumps to Flashback).

Charles Morris
Charles Morris

Sup Forums is the only place I can be honest about my desires and fantasies

I want to become a submissive fuccboi for Messer.

Angel Flores
Angel Flores

No one gives a shit about you old hag

Lucas Turner
Lucas Turner

Except that Frontier changes a lot of the tv show plot. Same with DYRL and the SDF version. Protip: Kawamori was fully in control of Frontier movies and DYRL, not their tv show versions. That's why he usually sticks to that canon as reference.

Nolan Johnson
Nolan Johnson

And then Minmay stays the night with him and they kiss. Then the very next day he dumps Minmay and goes back to Misa. The dumbest love triangle ever.

Owen Gomez
Owen Gomez

I'm not old

Dylan Hill
Dylan Hill

I'm just wondering what the fuck they are doing, because her design is great. Seems kind of a waste to sacrifice her to Kawamori's idol boner.

Joseph Williams
Joseph Williams

DYRL is only canon in superficial elements. What song was sung, what the pilot suits looked like, that the zentrans were green, that the zentrans had their own language.

My original statement still stands, eventwise, the show is more cannon overall

Nathaniel Ross
Nathaniel Ross

Because they forced them to extend it. Kawamori officially ends this with Hikaru and Minmay partying their paths before she sings to stop the Zentraedi.

They mentally said goodbye for each other. The network forced them to stretch that shit because Macross got popular, but in the published material and what Kawamori and Mikimoto consider for timeline, it ended in episode 27/DYRL.

Mason Smith
Mason Smith

She could had been a member of Walkure instead of the flatchest hacker lesbo, And have all the Delta Squad pilots be guys. Relegate hacker lesbo to the bridge bunny squad and then all would be fine.

Brandon Smith
Brandon Smith

Analogy still sticks since the movies are more or less abridged versions of the series.

Jackson Wright
Jackson Wright

6 episodes in
what the fuck they are doing

Slow and steady wins the race

Levi Rodriguez
Levi Rodriguez

Can't speak for the fire but their color coding does mean something though for Japan.

1) Kaname - Yellow often represents wisdom, clarity and warmth. Perfect for Kaname since she is the leader, and big sister figure of the group.

2) Makina - Pink often represents feminine and caring.

3) Reina - Calm and advance technology, which Reina stands for.

4) Freyja - I don't even have to say anything, but I will. Luck, prosperity, happiness and energy.

5) Mikumo - Royalitet, nobility, spirituality and very interestingly, mystery.

Bentley Martin
Bentley Martin

Macross
canon

Grayson Howard
Grayson Howard

No, it doesn't work that way. Minmay's personality, as we saw in Flashback (and the First), is indeed like DYRL. She looks like in DYRL because it was her who played her role. She officially spent time trapped with the Zentraedi according to chronicle, contradicting the tv series, because she became that ambassador of peace that Zents love to death and why so many spent decades chasing after her MIA status.

TV series gives more details, but gets things plainly wrong. DYRL was Kawamori's vision of Macross. And it's Kawamori who took over the franchise.

Gabriel Wood
Gabriel Wood

Generic anime hair
There's nothing generic about it as Mikumo can somewhat alter the shape of her hair. Name at least 3 other anime characters with the same hairstyle as hers.

Gavin Fisher
Gavin Fisher

besides the character murder of the trio because of the extension, im actually glad they did. I just love the world building.

Zachary Rivera
Zachary Rivera

I don't care. I still watched Hikaru be a moron for ten more episodes and I won't stand for it.

Zachary Gonzalez
Zachary Gonzalez

Yellow is shit, fitting for a shit character

Angel Jackson
Angel Jackson

6 episodes
Seven.

Jaxson Cruz
Jaxson Cruz

INOCHI

Caleb Diaz
Caleb Diaz

yet, clearly, the zentradi were not fighting between their sexes, the provision army was a thing

Ryan Kelly
Ryan Kelly

Mirgae will probably win the triangle if it goes romantic because she really doesn't have anything else going on.

Wyatt Torres
Wyatt Torres

4) Freyja - I don't even have to say anything, but I will. Luck, prosperity, happiness and energy.
Red is also romantic love, passion.

Hunter Torres
Hunter Torres

who are you mad at

David Torres
David Torres

SDF again
don't do this to me kawamori

Benjamin Sullivan
Benjamin Sullivan

And? That shit was irrelevant and a footnote, added to compress time. Where was Minmay trapped with the Zentraedi early on in tv series? Right. Nowhere.

Aaron Jackson
Aaron Jackson

cute and feminine
kind
helpful
kind
level-headed
a good manager
has an adorable voice

Kaname is literally a perfect female.

Camden Thomas
Camden Thomas

I agree, and I'm a Freyjafag. Otherwise her character is pointless.

Hudson Davis
Hudson Davis

M7 episode 26..
fuck...
flower girl
still makes no sense! but fuck!

It got good.. It got really fucking good..
dat Macross Cannon
dem sacrifice

Jose Sanders
Jose Sanders

In Macross, Kawamori defined Misa as heroine while Minmay as star, but those expressions were misunderstood by the fandom. Misa isn't a heroine because she's 'heroic', he was talking about her status as love interest which in Japan is labelled as heroine. While Minmay is the protagonist and star of Macross.

Hikaru was a witness, a POV, of Minmay's story, while Misa was his love interest (after she was retconned there).

Ian Morris
Ian Morris

OH NO

Tyler Cook
Tyler Cook

Mirage will probably win.

Freyja follows Mikumo around the galaxy singing and devoting to idol activities. Leaving Hayate alone with a Mirage. And they have 7 kids of their own.

Jeremiah Robinson
Jeremiah Robinson

Why do you dislike her so much. And please write more than a sentence. All Kaname haters, I demand a valid reason. Your reason will be graded also.

Carson Fisher
Carson Fisher

all boys

Blake Long
Blake Long

And they have 7 kids of their own.
Let's hope at least 3-4 of them will be boys, not girls.

Jack Reyes
Jack Reyes

I don't know if Freyja will actually fall for Hayate, right now she's more concerned for Mikumo-san than anything else.

Angel Gonzalez
Angel Gonzalez

because she really doesn't have anything else going on.
Bullshit. Mirage is bro with Hayate now and are developing quite a synergy with each other in combat.

Jack Sanders
Jack Sanders

One Walkure member will die and Mirage will replace her quote me on this

Chase Baker
Chase Baker

I don't care who wins, as long as Freyja's and Hayate's relationship stays awesome. They have a lot of chemistry together, but I don't necessarily think them lovers.

I didn't care for Hikaru/Minmay relationship or Alto/Ranka but Freyja's and Hayate are great friends.

Jordan Watson
Jordan Watson

Which one is Kaname? I'm think that if I don't even remember who she is that she's probably a fairly pointless character in the long run. Perhaps we could consider her just a filler character who's there to hold a spot so as to not make the show feel as empty but in the long run holds no real purpose?

Shit character.

Carson Lopez
Carson Lopez

You're not the first one with this prediction.
And no, Mirage won't sing.

Tyler Gonzalez
Tyler Gonzalez

Not anymore than Hayate is concerned with Messer's opinion about him. Freyja, Hayate, and Mirage are clearly a trio.

Angel Scott
Angel Scott

Freyja and Hayate are like kindred spirits while Hayate and Mirage are like reluctant lovers.

Joseph Nguyen
Joseph Nguyen

You know, I would probably never waste my money on these things. But I AM intrigue and wonder what they would feel like.

Sebastian Murphy
Sebastian Murphy

That's the point. She's nothing without her relationship with Hayate. While Freyja has a lot of shit coming on.

If Mirage loses, it'll be Zessica again.

Evan King
Evan King

Are they are reenacting Max and Millia?

Freyja/Hayate have such a nice vibe together that would be almost sad to see it ruined by romance.

Kevin Scott
Kevin Scott

lovers
they're bros

Adam Peterson
Adam Peterson

Freyja spends more time with Mikumo than Hayate spends with Messer.

Luke Bailey
Luke Bailey

Android has been the most popular theory. Which doesn't make any sense since machines shouldn't be able to generate biological fold waves.
Sounds like a challenge Sharon Apple would have loved to attempt.

Camden Myers
Camden Myers

Quote you in the hall of stupid things people have said on Sup Forums? Sorry friend there's a 5yr waiting list for that.

Dominic King
Dominic King

How would it be ruined by romance?

Liam Sullivan
Liam Sullivan

Are they are reenacting Max and Millia?

That would be Freyja and Hayate. It's like you miss the point that the real core of Max and Millia were two species at war become a bridge for understanding.

Matthew Carter
Matthew Carter

Messer doesn't have a 10th of the time that Mikumo has

Dominic Fisher
Dominic Fisher

bros

You've clearly never been involved with something who started out as a "friend" but became a "lover" over time although reluctantly..

tsun tsun is true true in this case my friend.

Daniel Baker
Daniel Baker

Are they are reenacting Max and Millia?
No.
Keith and Messer are the best parallel for that. Ace of one side, Ace of the other side. Mirage drew a parallel between Freyja and Hayate and her grandparents though. Hayate told her off because it pressures Freyja to be a 'bridge' when she was still having doubts of what to do.

Aaron Stewart
Aaron Stewart

They get all romantic with each other and that would take away their great dynamic.

I was thinking more about pilot rivalry and mutual acknowledgment of their skills and love.

Cameron Brooks
Cameron Brooks

It's okay, Freyja and Hayate will stay awesome friends. Eventually down the road Mirage and Hayate's love will blossom.

Freyja won't be left in the dark though, her love for Mikumo is slowly growing. At first Freyja thought of her as a role model, now she is slightly obsessed with her. Mikumo makes Freyja's rune sparkles the most.

Soon Freyja's rune with sparkle purple for the person she loves the most. Mikumo (who is currently being cold/tsun).

Ethan Torres
Ethan Torres

tsun tsun is true true in this case my friend.
There's barely any tsun.

Benjamin King
Benjamin King

Hayate and Freyja can have the same dynamic with romance, if anything it would make it better.

Joshua Perry
Joshua Perry

I was thinking more about pilot rivalry and mutual acknowledgment of their skills and love.

That was never the core of the relationship. Mirage isn't Hayate's rival at all either. She's his teacher and mentor, his senpai. I wouldn't try to find 'parallels' there. She's kind of a mediocre pilot too.

Ethan Flores
Ethan Flores

Mikumo acts like that shoujo asshole who is the shoujo heroine's main love interest.

James Mitchell
James Mitchell

No, there is much tsun you're just to young or dumb to be able to notice how subtle it is. It's like picking out the faint hint of cherry in a good pinot noir, you just don't have the acquired taste for it yet.

Matthew Long
Matthew Long

She's nothing without her relationship with Hayate
Oh course not. She has her own personal struggles she's trying to meet his her family's legacy and gaining the respect of her peers.

While Freyja has a lot of shit coming on
That's because she one of the idols and a Windemerean.

Are they are reenacting Max and Millia?
Its pretty much developing into that as paired pilots.

Carter Harris
Carter Harris

She should cut them short then.

Levi Perez
Levi Perez

Hayate's only rival is the mercat. Not Mirage. You don't really get their relationship or Milia's/Max's.

Alexander Morris
Alexander Morris

it'll be Zessica again.
everyone liked Zessica the most though

Brandon Sullivan
Brandon Sullivan

They are Gamlin and Basara dipshit

Christopher White
Christopher White

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKM_QFgTUEk
Reminder that Macross will never fall as low as this.

William Martin
William Martin

Because Mikono was shit. In this case, the main heroine is lovable. Zessica only shone as contrast of how shitty Mikono was, but Mikono had all: fate, plot weight, the attention of all the key players, a backstory, etc.

Zessica had....... her pinning for Amata and she was afraid of ghosts???

Henry Ward
Henry Ward

That thing looks like shit. The other mercats are cute but the ugliest one had to be the 'official' pet.

Blake Harris
Blake Harris

The manga for that was pretty good actually

Lincoln Baker
Lincoln Baker

Thanks now Youtube thinks I'm interested in Gundam Shit.

Isaac Young
Isaac Young

Gundam has had goofy SD specials for awhile.

Grayson Wilson
Grayson Wilson

At least the other pets were characters, this piece of shit was barely on screen.
The brown Mercat should just kill it and take it's place

Ian Adams
Ian Adams

terrible adaption

Luke Gomez
Luke Gomez

is it ever explained what the supervision army is

Nicholas Brown
Nicholas Brown

It's a conspiracy to even shit on Mirage. They couldn't give her a decent pet and they had the audacity to pair her with that abomination in the opening.

I hope based mercat-sensei eats it.

Jose Butler
Jose Butler

Brainwashed zentradi and protoculture soldiers used by the Protodevlin.

Jordan Jones
Jordan Jones

there's a keychain of that literal piece of shit
not of the scarface mercat

I'm mad.

Owen Edwards
Owen Edwards

And of course its fucking Mirages

Lincoln Cooper
Lincoln Cooper

what did she mean by this?

Angel Morris
Angel Morris

She's a nice girl but her taste is shit for picking that up as pet.

Lucas Richardson
Lucas Richardson

It's the dorm room's pet
which is why it's Freyja's job to feed it

Angel Morales
Angel Morales

So the two characters that receive the most hate are Mirage and Kaname. It's time for them to finally end things: http://www.strawpoll.me/10276111

Landon Kelly
Landon Kelly

I hope this post is bait but i honestly can't even tell anymore

Brody Flores
Brody Flores

They miscolored that rune.

Luke Bell
Luke Bell

Kaname
cute and feminine
kind
helpful
kind
level-headed
a good manager
has an adorable voice

Kaname is literally a perfect female.

Henry Lee
Henry Lee

No, I just saw the quote while I was watching and it was the first thing that popped into my head soooo..

photoshop

Ya, Rick&Morty is part of the Macross universe I suppose. SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT MINMAY!

Carson Flores
Carson Flores

I hope this post is bait but i honestly can't even tell anymore

Parker Jones
Parker Jones

Than it's official, Rick & Morty is part of the Macross canon.

Bentley Harris
Bentley Harris

/v/
/co/
/tv/
>>>/reddit/
Fuck off.

Luis Lee
Luis Lee

Soon Freyja's rune with sparkle purple for the person she loves the most.
Isn't purple for sad or something like that? at least in anime.

Austin Foster
Austin Foster

Now before you go all shitpost (which you already did) let me explain in a way that sort of slips into Macross canon.

The Megaroad-01 set out towards the center of the galaxy in 2012. However in July 2016, barely four years into its voyage toward the center of the Milky Way, all contact with the fleet abruptly ceased

Sounds to ME like someone got abducted by the giant heads for their galactic version of American Idol.

Lynn Mynmay died trying to SHOW US WHAT YOU GOT.

With some tinkering R&M canon can fit in with Macross official canon.

You may continue with your shitposting now.

Daniel Green
Daniel Green

Not him, but you sound like a delusional shipperfag.

Jonathan Jenkins
Jonathan Jenkins

Is anybody here good with photoshop? How would Mikumo and Freyja look if the hair color-scheme was reversed?

John Kelly
John Kelly

What did she see?

Kayden Cooper
Kayden Cooper

Thanks, I know I'll be right in the end though.

Adam Edwards
Adam Edwards

Decultre

Sebastian Hill
Sebastian Hill

According to Bogue, this is a traitor.
Should I believe him?

If she were a USA citizen, she would be guilty of treason under the canon definition of treason in the USA Constitution. So, if you accept the USA constitution's definition of treason, the Bogue is quite correct. Freyja is a treasonous, but the audience forgives her because she is cute and sings.

Ayden Cooper
Ayden Cooper

She also fled her country before open hostilities were declared, so it's kinda complex.

Nathan Long
Nathan Long

She keeps looking ar her nails, what is so interesting in her nails that she keeps on looking

You weren't looking closely at the first episode. Mikumo has a communicator tool hidden in a nail. She is able to engage it by stroking across that specific nail's leading edge.

Colton Jenkins
Colton Jenkins

You don't even know what a tsundere is.

Jaxon Roberts
Jaxon Roberts

but the audience forgives her because she is cute and sings.

They didn't forgive Ranka.

Nathaniel Ross
Nathaniel Ross

But Ranka wasn't cute.

Jonathan Williams
Jonathan Williams

Freyja is a treasonous, but the audience forgives her because she is cute and sings.
But no one is sympathizing with Space North Korea.

Colton Phillips
Colton Phillips

Says the guy who's acting awfully tsun with me right now. :3

Seriously stop or I'll get a retraining order against your creepy ass.

Alexander Stewart
Alexander Stewart

Ranka betrayed humanity in its time of need for some bugs that killed tons of people. In contrast, who the fuck cares about betraying Windermere for Delta. At least they're both human and somewhat sympathetic.

Robert Ward
Robert Ward

There's nothing complex. If so, then your use of "it's complex" as an excuse for Freyja not being guilty of treason is wishful thinking forcing your cherry picking of facts. But anime fandom is full of that. For example, Sword Art Online had a lot of fans who insisted that Kirito and Asuna were not a mary sue type characters. It's complex, so that is why bin laden is innocent. It's complex, so Freyja is not guilty of treason.

Nathaniel Davis
Nathaniel Davis

So wait... if USA declares war to a country and you, a civilian, happen to be in that country when it does, you will be considered a traitor if you work for them as a singer?

Blake Campbell
Blake Campbell

Freyja is a treasonous, but the audience forgives her because she is cute and sings.
There's nothing to forgive. Windemere are the bad guys.
Anyone with a brain should defect from Wind Korea given the opportunity.

Kevin Lopez
Kevin Lopez

"I want to fuck Heinz" = sympathetic? Vajra had their youth killed by humans.

Jason Gonzalez
Jason Gonzalez

It's only complex because it's 'Citizen of nation working against her nation', but she was never a combatant for that nation and emigrated before hostilities were declared.

She's the equivalent of an expat that is serving in an army that was later attacked by her home country. That's a complex situation no matter how you look at it.

Andrew Thompson
Andrew Thompson

Your liking of a certain side has nothing to do with whether or not she has committed treason against her nation. You are using emotion to cherry pick facts. It's the same style of emotion that lets people commit crimes, steal, or vandalize. Oh that person is a know it all, so let's key his car. Voila it's done since those people were not sympathizing that some people do know it all on certain topics. But some people hate being proven wrong, so they key a car as proper compensation for their emotion and feel justified in doing so.

Blake Ross
Blake Ross

You're really taking this seriously.

Brandon Sullivan
Brandon Sullivan

Ans she isn't even fighting. She's more akin to a medic, restoring to health enemy's soldiers and civilians.

Isn't that considered legit due to the Hippocratic oath?

Camden Garcia
Camden Garcia

According to Bogue, this is a traitor.
Should I believe him?

Easy to believe. Peeps post here justifying how they could be usa traitors cuz they feel that way so it is not traitor but complicated. Fbi still proscute them tho.

Brandon Wright
Brandon Wright

Nobody cares about monstrous space bugs. They killed actual characters the audience cared for, and unlike the Zentradi or Protodeviln before them, there was nothing to even slightly see as sympathetic. The movies kinda managed it, but we're talking about the shitty TV series.

Colton Robinson
Colton Robinson

fuck you, ai kun was the cutest macross pet to date.

Colton Perry
Colton Perry

Why does the future give 2 shits about the US Constitution

Oliver Miller
Oliver Miller

I feel the tv show was kind of a trainwreck in general. The vajra are great in the movies, though. It's hard to humanize space bugs but they did it. Vajra Queen was best girl after Sheryl.

Blake Murphy
Blake Murphy

And then he promptly betrayed Ranka when he mind melded like the monster he was. In the movies, he literally saved Sheryl and Ozma's lives.

Levi Rogers
Levi Rogers

If she were a USA citizen, she would be guilty of treason under the canon definition of treason

Well, to the FBI. But some of the anime fans in here don't use USA Constitution definition of right and wrong. These fans have their own justifications and beliefs and obsessions.

Nicholas Baker
Nicholas Baker

Wind Korea are the bad guys.

Daniel Martin
Daniel Martin

He still kept himself. Remember he even picked Alto's plane when he had a meltdown when he saw him.

But I know their portrayal was better in the movies. Ai-Kun was really based. Unlike this shitty pet we got now. What a fucking downgrade.

Julian Ortiz
Julian Ortiz

He also saved all Macross Quarter because he apparently was the one who persuaded the Vajra to shield the stage when they were singing in the movies.

A true unsung hero.

Brandon Sanders
Brandon Sanders

To be honest, I actually don't even remember that. I understand that he somewhat kept himself, but the decision to have him betray her in the first place was the last straw for the Vajra in the TV series because he was their only ray of light. The handling of the Vajra was just exceedingly shitty in general.

Luke Long
Luke Long

Found the humanshit.

Kayden Hernandez
Kayden Hernandez

How did you get past your country's internet block winderefag?

Jackson Martin
Jackson Martin

So she is constantly sexting

Isaiah Johnson
Isaiah Johnson

I don't disagree. He was mindcontrolled actually, it was in the ending, he snapped himself out and helped Ranka and Alto.

The movie does make a smoother job. I think it's because we know already the vajra aren't so bad, so we get them portrayed in a better light because there's no 'mystery'. I feel Ai-kun movie wise is less of a pet and more like a character on his own right. A green tag along kid? Vajra ARE sentient but express themselves differently.

Daniel Martinez
Daniel Martinez

Superior Windermere intellect.

Chase Edwards
Chase Edwards

Fuck Mikumo.

Thomas Diaz
Thomas Diaz

Because she invokes Sheryl without explicitly copying her.

Austin Wood
Austin Wood

Pantsu: String Type

Noah Lewis
Noah Lewis

She's not real, mate.
inb4 because she's a robot

Kevin Cooper
Kevin Cooper

Mikumo is great because she is Sheryl without the baggage of being in the triangle.

Sheryl remains the best triangle participant in Macross history.

That woman had some serious fucking guts.

Benjamin Brown
Benjamin Brown

Yes, thats exactly what FreFre will do

Nolan Thomas
Nolan Thomas

Honestly, why did they even make Mirage a main character. If Kawamori really wanted the triangle to be faint he should have just scratched Mirage and replace her with Mikumo.

Have the plot be the exact same thing it is now, but just without Mirage being part of the main three. Then the triangle would have Mikumo, Freyja and Hayate. Everyone thinking Mikumo will eventually steal Hayate, but she won't she'll just be mysterious her. And then Hayate and Freyja can be either friends or hook up.

Mason Flores
Mason Flores

Because nobody wants Mikumo to actually be in the triangle.

Also Mirage will probably develop a lot as we progress here

Luke Rivera
Luke Rivera

Meido Keith.

Owen Martin
Owen Martin

Even if it didn't turn out like Frontier, it'd probably mirror it too much with Mikumo as another lead.

Michael Perez
Michael Perez

I wouldn't say she is Sheryl, but I would say she has a passion for singing like Sheryl did, along with being very strong minded. Mikumo is her own unique character though, she doesn't fit any anime character stereotype at all.

Mikumo simply cannot be characterized, she is simple just Mikumo.

Eli Watson
Eli Watson

You're giving her character too much credit.

Xavier Wood
Xavier Wood

Understandable, however the results are in guys. Sup Forums agrees that Mirage is officially the least favorite character of Macross Delta

http://www.strawpoll.me/10276111

Hunter Bennett
Hunter Bennett

she doesn't fit any anime character stereotype
She's in the shinpi category.

Joseph Thomas
Joseph Thomas

The text of the picture is unrelated. My point was just that Mikumo so far fits no stereotype of anime characters

Liam Rodriguez
Liam Rodriguez

I kind of prefer the triangle having one idol and one military girl rather than two idols. Two idols in a triangle is just going to get ugly and might affect cd sales.

Ryan Watson
Ryan Watson

Macross Frontier had two idols in the triangle.

Jonathan Phillips
Jonathan Phillips

And it got ugly and Sheryl constantly overshadowed Ranka.

Jacob Allen
Jacob Allen

Legacy of the Protoculture
Next scene is Kumokumo

Thomas Hill
Thomas Hill

Mysterious, confident kuuderes aren't that uncommon, Shizuku from Kampfer or Utaha from Saekano.

Chase Wilson
Chase Wilson

It doesn't affect CD sales though, because songs are released together. The problem was they didn't do a good job with Ranka.

If the triangle was Sheryl and Freyja, it would be a pretty even match based on how well received Freyja is.

Imagine if the triangle was even Mikumo and Ranka

Sebastian Scott
Sebastian Scott

Or worse if the triangle was Mikumo and Sheryl

Adam Davis
Adam Davis

Yet Mikumo isn't like any of them. At all

Kevin Perry
Kevin Perry

Anyone with some Zentradi lineage can have hair tentacles.

Adam Martin
Adam Martin

I'd cum inside both of them

Jacob Martin
Jacob Martin

I love Kaname, motherly figure and a gentle voice.

Levi Reyes
Levi Reyes

Holy moly! You're right, that was definitely done intentionally. How does it involve Mikumo? Is she the last of a species? Is there more of her?

Jacob Clark
Jacob Clark

Yes we know Kaname

Wyatt Ross
Wyatt Ross

Why is Mirage so useless?

Eli Taylor
Eli Taylor

Call your character Mirage
She is practically non-existent
it's like a poetry

Parker Lopez
Parker Lopez

Maybe her uselessness is just a mirage

Brandon Nelson
Brandon Nelson

Does anyone know the song in the trailer?

Charles Diaz
Charles Diaz

true, I love Sheryl but her passion for singing was almost the same as Basara and they are two totally different characters

Caleb Allen
Caleb Allen

No one declaring she's best girl anymore
What happened?

Benjamin Mitchell
Benjamin Mitchell

Got her ass handed by what is essentially an almost dead grandpa and a rookie pilot

Carter Watson
Carter Watson

She's Basara.

Gabriel Mitchell
Gabriel Mitchell

Almost-dead grandpas are the most dangerous characters in anime, though.

Wyatt Roberts
Wyatt Roberts

I'm trying not to enable this forced ship war. Mirage and Freyja are both best girls as far as I'm concerned.

Noah Flores
Noah Flores

Ok, I really don't like Gundam-San, but damn, that ending is catchy.

Hudson Russell
Hudson Russell

oh fuck, he actually finished it

Cameron Torres
Cameron Torres

Can i enjoy this without watching the older ones?

Caleb Garcia
Caleb Garcia

Yes

Brandon Perry
Brandon Perry

no

Easton Flores
Easton Flores

Watch Aquarion first though

Dominic Morales
Dominic Morales

You must watch Robotech before you can enjoy any Macross.

Gavin Watson
Gavin Watson

Full version of Bokura no senjou when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwAGms0eMuw

Julian Johnson
Julian Johnson

Has there been a single romantic blush in this show yet? Not including that brown waitress chick who wants Messer's dick because that's a fucking dead end if there ever was one.

Lincoln Rivera
Lincoln Rivera

Honestly no. There's no real love triangle yet. Freya does have some feelings for Hayate but they're not that obvious.

Jason Hernandez
Jason Hernandez

Keith whenever he meets Messer

Mason Hill
Mason Hill

Said rookie pilot was paired with the Knight's most veteran pilot. Mirage would've easily taken him down on her own if Herman wasn't in the picture.

Caleb Wright
Caleb Wright

With pleasure

Jeremiah Harris
Jeremiah Harris

Old people are always the strongest next to MC and final boss

Henry Allen
Henry Allen

Go check 2ch and see which character is most popular there.
Mikumo only popular in overseas and overseas doesn't matter for Japan thanks to Harmony Gold.

Isaiah Price
Isaiah Price

debately

Dominic Parker
Dominic Parker

Mirage isn't popular there either.

Jason Perez
Jason Perez

Pixiv is full of Mikumo art.

Jacob Gray
Jacob Gray

I still cant get over the fact people are bothered with singing during hacking. Literally no fun allowed

Ayden Watson
Ayden Watson

I WANT FREYJA TO LAUGH CREEPILY AT ME

Michael Morgan
Michael Morgan

I just wonder why this user keep shitposting to Mirage and Kaname, easy target?

Jaxon Garcia
Jaxon Garcia

Not bothered by it. The y/u/ri in it made me giddy. But their songs are the weakest of all, specially the second

Gabriel Miller
Gabriel Miller

This fucking scene, he reject Ranka's feeling and then he confess to another girl next to her. What a cold heart MC.

Jack Adams
Jack Adams

Some faggots just hate that it didn't look technical or feel "realistic". They want muh GitS style hacking.

Aaron Wilson
Aaron Wilson

He is the most hot headed MC in the series i mean he lost like what 3 VFs?

Hunter Turner
Hunter Turner

I just figured it was fold hacking or something. If you're going to choose something to be pissed about the computer having "Hacking" in big letters would be a better choice.

Grayson Morgan
Grayson Morgan

She's most popular character in 2ch, sure 2ch isn't everything but it still count as one of reference.
And before you said "her thread is full of shitposting", no it isn't, trying to shitpost in 2ch will just make them put that shitposter's ID in ignore list, unlike Sup Forums anons keep getting baited.
Go check the artist info and you will find many of them are chinese.

Robert Ward
Robert Ward

Delta could be the darkest, grittiest most politically intruging Macross but the moment an episode decides to be more light hearted adding cutesy hacking or cat girls the oldfags will be all over it saying that the episode is representative of the entire show. That is exactly what happened in ep7

Michael Cooper
Michael Cooper

tfw Freyja will never laugh creepily at you.

John Stewart
John Stewart

Gits is still hollywood hacking

Adrian Brown
Adrian Brown

He also does that hot blooded pilot yelling that I don't remember any other MC doing.

Oliver Stewart
Oliver Stewart

You can have yuri hacking and catgirls along with political intrigue and espionage as the episode showed.

David Nguyen
David Nguyen

Can somebody explain why there are people want Mikumo as main character?

All i see what she done is keep saying something no one understand, in fact, she doesn't even fit for Macross Delta, more like a character from 2000s Gonzo show.

Owen Thomas
Owen Thomas

Bogue and Freyjas runes will touch before they get seperated. Bogue gets some newtype feelings that will make him question everything and needs to see Freyja again to confirm everything. Freya in turn will beore concerned with the plight of her people

Andrew Gomez
Andrew Gomez

EPISODE WHEN

Liam Ward
Liam Ward

The "second" song was actually played in first episode. Episode 6 had the extended version.

Yeah. I'm just saying those retards expect it to be the gritty technical style hacking and cringe on how playful Reina's hacking was.

Wyatt Sanchez
Wyatt Sanchez

8 hours left

Alexander Baker
Alexander Baker

runes will touch
NOT GAY IF RUNES DON'T TOUCH

Luis Williams
Luis Williams

yup, and ep 7 has it serious moment too. like that conversation between roid and the voldorian elder, and when that voldorian little girl is trying to cure his dad by singing.
but no, let say that ep 7 is comedic just because we got singing hacker. dumb macros purist.

Luke Lee
Luke Lee

I have a friend that is a huge Macross fan. Since the first broadcast of Robotech. He collects everything Macross related and has been making Macross sites since Geocities was a thing.

He is 40 or so and he absolutely refuses to watch or even acknowledge Delta. The reason is Walkure and their mahou shoujo type transformation when they sing. That is the only reason.

Zealots can be so close minded. I am joyfully enjoying the idols, the cat girls, the fish girls, the invisible girl.

Really? Oh, is it the one that plays when Hayate is dancing with the cargo mecha?

David Hernandez
David Hernandez

In 5 minutes.

Mason Bailey
Mason Bailey

SUBS WHEN

Isaiah Gutierrez
Isaiah Gutierrez

Yup. That was it.

Kayden Wood
Kayden Wood

Best girl.

Easton Garcia
Easton Garcia

That is a Variable Fighter, not your waifu.

Dylan Cooper
Dylan Cooper

Yeah no

Oliver Robinson
Oliver Robinson

Good find, I'll give that one a 60% possibility of being romantic. Could have also been due to Hayate saying embarrassing things, which he does a lot.

Jeremiah Mitchell
Jeremiah Mitchell

Because some of them still buttmad about Mirage is one of main character and Kaname is the leader(and getting her own triangle), they basically think it should belongs to Mikumo.

Otherwise there is no fucking point to hate them, and i say that as Freyjafag, and i'm pretty sure Freyjafags or even just come here watch the show for music/battle/etc won't hate them.

Nathaniel Martinez
Nathaniel Martinez

A man of fine tastes

Jack Bailey
Jack Bailey

And it was the most popular Macross. Two Minmay are better than one. Kawamori was a genius.

Isaac Collins
Isaac Collins

Was Frontier more popular than SDF? How do we even go about analyzing the relative popularity of things made in very different times?

Easton Diaz
Easton Diaz

Rafaga

Owen Green
Owen Green

If Kawamori really wanted the triangle to be faint he should have just scratched Mirage and replace her with Mikumo.

Because Mikumo is actually important plot wise? Think about it, in the past, when an idol was against someone who wasn't an idol (7 counts), it was usually the idol 'losing' not because MC loved the second choice better, but because "plots said so" or "idol is too important to settle". Ranka and Sheryl shared their this, but Ranka always got a more heavy plot inclination, so freed Sheryl for emotional growth.

This time, Freyja doesn't have the weight of being a plot McGuffin who should be stay single for sake of everyone, but there's another idol, Mikumo, filling that role. So she's in a Sheryl circumstance, of being an idol, with plot connection but whose struggle is mostly emotional rather than plot device.

David Clark
David Clark

If the triangle was Sheryl and Freyja, it would be a pretty even match based on how well received Freyja is.

Unless it's written by Delta's writer, otherwise Freyja will just become Ranka 2.0 because everyone knows Macross F writer is Sherylfag.

Michael Hill
Michael Hill

It's both.

Adrian Lopez
Adrian Lopez

He is 40 or so and he absolutely refuses to watch or even acknowledge Delta
I'm 40 as well but I'm enjoying Delta a lot. Macross 7 was far crazier and at times defied whatever logic the original series held it together. I consider people like your friend as hypocrites if they can like 7 and Frontier but completely hate Delta because of a few minor details that peeves them. Their "transformation" as we already know is due to their holographic technology and doesn't even last more than 5 seconds unlike actual mahou shoujo anime.

Hunter Foster
Hunter Foster

Oh no of course not, because the hyper-specific category you created to house Mikumo. Yup, Mikumo is a special snowflake who couldn't possibly share any characteristics with any popular archetype.

Adam Rogers
Adam Rogers

You have a point but sadly you didn't downplay Mirage, so he will probably still count you as his enemy or even Miragefag.

Ethan Cook
Ethan Cook

It sold like hotcakes. Mostly because Ranka and Sheryl. Minmay is still the iconic character, but those two are not far behind her.

Cameron Hernandez
Cameron Hernandez

Fuck a triangle I'd rather just watch those two duel it out as idols. It'd be Rocky vs Drago.

Jace Cox
Jace Cox

2ch posts are a measure of popularity

So explain me why Mikumo has more merch, official and unofficial (like that onahole), twitter results, fanart, overall enthusiasm in the event than Mirawho?

2ch posts are literally a dozen of fags circlejerking because nobody else gives a shit about Mirage.

Ethan Cox
Ethan Cox

I wouldn't say sales and popularity are the same thing. Is Kyoukaisenjou no Horizon as nearly popular as Frontier? Fuck no, it just has incredibly dedicated fans.

An anime doesn't have to sell BDs at all to be widely known by the general population. That's what ratings are for.

Isaac Hill
Isaac Hill

She's already a main character with Freyja and Hayate.

John Bennett
John Bennett

Sheryl and Minmay are topping the Macross Magazine best female characters and Alto won the best male character. It WAS very popular, unlike Zero or 7 which had underwhelming reception.

Leo Collins
Leo Collins

Minmay
But shes hands down the shittiest charcater

Jackson Torres
Jackson Torres

7 was very popular at the time
it was obviously overshadowed because a certain anime you might have heard about aired right after it
this little thing called fucking NEON GENESIS EVANGELION

Christian Peterson
Christian Peterson

No, it was just interesting that Kaname and Mirage always received the most hate out of the cast. So the poll was created to see who the most hated was. Unfortunately it seems to be Mirage.

Kevin Peterson
Kevin Peterson

Because she's one of walkure and sing by a new idol that they need to push so official need to keep promo her? is that really hard to understand?
Also i already said 2ch isn't everything in later comment, but still one of reference.

And see You buttmad shitposters is the one circlejerking.

Tyler Cook
Tyler Cook

Doesn't Fire Bomber have the most albums of any macross performer?

Levi Clark
Levi Clark

I don't know what you're arguing, but I'm not arguing that Frontier wasn't hugely popular. I'm just wondering what your reasoning behind thinking Frontier is more popular than SDF is, because BDs aren't a very good one.

Parker Allen
Parker Allen

But they never ever are "most hate out of the cast".
Anyway you should check the poll again.

Nathaniel Butler
Nathaniel Butler

Here, it's more interesting that we should check out which group are the worst in Macross Delta thread.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10277873

Jordan King
Jordan King

Pick one

Nathaniel Peterson
Nathaniel Peterson

I just don't get him.The things that Walkure use had been used since Plus. Frejya's debut concert had the same hologram types as Sharon's concerts.

Idols singing to calm a bunch of aggressive zentradi? Minmay did it.

But plainly disregarding Delta because the idols are too much idolesque for his tastes is just retarded.

Jordan Phillips
Jordan Phillips

Green to see what would happen when I pull the alien off her head.

John Wood
John Wood

You know the saddest and most fucked up part of the Mirage hate is the fact that she is apart of the triangle. Not just any triangle, but a love triangle. If Mirage was a secondary character or if Macross wasn't also a love story, Mirage would not receive as many hate as she does. That's the sad part about shipping, its a fun bonus but sometimes fans take it too care, and a scenario like Mirage occurs.

As for the Kaname hate, that's one thing I don't understand. It couldn't be the fact that she is leader over Mikumo, because that doesn't make any sense. It also couldn't be her age, because that's also ridiculous. Kaname hate genuinely boggles my mind.

James Hall
James Hall

he fell for the memes

AND WE AT WINDEMEREX.COM ARE ALL LAUGHING

Chase Foster
Chase Foster

All 3, But Green first

Luis Cruz
Luis Cruz

stop taking memes so seriously

Jayden Cruz
Jayden Cruz

Delta isn't supposed to focus on romance like Frontier. It's closer to Seven where the triangle was kind of irrelevant, user. The real focus is put on the secrets of the Protoculture.

Landon Gutierrez
Landon Gutierrez

It's closer to Seven where the triangle was kind of irrelevant
soon you'll see

Daniel Wright
Daniel Wright

Are you a Robotechfag or a newfag? Minmay was voted third best female character of the 80 decade in Japan.

She is by this day the icon of the entire Macross franchise. She's also Kawamori's favorite character, but he thinks of her as a goddess and the sun, so pitiful mortals like Hikaru can't ever reach for her.

Jordan Hall
Jordan Hall

Nah i can tell you Freyjafags don't hate Mirage, it just some people being buttmad.
And no nope of them getting many hates, it just few shitposters keep spamming.

Parker Myers
Parker Myers

Soon I'll see what? Kawamori already stated there's little romance in Delta.

Zachary Sullivan
Zachary Sullivan

a shit

Isaiah Baker
Isaiah Baker

japs
taste

Jason Baker
Jason Baker

it just won't be at the forefront

Gavin Walker
Gavin Walker

She's already a main character

Look at where she's placed in the promotional poster. If this were a Star Wars poster she'd be a droid

Connor Campbell
Connor Campbell

Mikumo is a plot switch, basically staff create her for solve issue that if they can't find any other way to solve it, like maybe upcoming episode.

Nicholas Kelly
Nicholas Kelly

There are 3 promotional posters, idiot. That one and these two.

Guess what Mirage is important for only? Oh yeah, the triangle.

Jackson Ramirez
Jackson Ramirez

Macross Delta has three promotional posters/key visuals: one with Walkure, the Knights, and that one, user. Mikumo is prominent on one.

Jacob Cruz
Jacob Cruz

The biggest problem of Macross thread(or any other 2 cour shows thread) is many people already used to 1 cour/split cour show, so when a 2 cour show airing, they still treat it like former and asking any main/important characters should done something big as quick as they can, like the show will end in episode 12.

Michael Stewart
Michael Stewart

get in line, mac

Jason Harris
Jason Harris

that's a bodysnatcher!

Gavin Hill
Gavin Hill

The real love triangle. Who will win the octopusbowl?

Joseph Richardson
Joseph Richardson

Reina who then eats it

Colton Garcia
Colton Garcia

A better analogy would be Mikumo=Yoda, which would mean

Freyja=Luke, Mirage=Han, and Hayate=Leia and it's blatantly obvious after watching them reenact the trash compactor scene in the last episode

Jason Ross
Jason Ross

Which all's your favourite bridge bunny group

Lincoln Foster
Lincoln Foster

I always like the one in 7

Though first had Shammy in it and Delta has green squeed girl. I guess Frontiers group stand out the least

Cooper Bennett
Cooper Bennett

Perhaps he hates the current J-Pop culture which is saturated with female idol groups and/or Mahou Shoujo in general.

Ryder Watson
Ryder Watson

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AiDv0pFi4eA

Hudson Roberts
Hudson Roberts

https://twitter.com/macross_matome/status/734242273148342272
I see you, Japan.

Daniel Price
Daniel Price

マクロスΔ(デルタ) 海外勢制作の美雲さん・鳥の人・ウィンダミアを結びつける考察

The construction of that sentence makes me rather uncomfortable. But basiclly it seems to say that there's considerations of tying mikumo, birdman and windermere together for macross delta which has traction overseas.

Hunter Lee
Hunter Lee

Ranka moved her hair too, for comedic effect.

Connor Mitchell
Connor Mitchell

Holy.
I never thought a picture I composed with PowePoint would get such attention.
Guess that is Internet for you.

Jackson Mitchell
Jackson Mitchell

I thought that the pic was originally from here?

Matthew Jones
Matthew Jones

It is

Kayden Roberts
Kayden Roberts

and I guess it is then

Jack Myers
Jack Myers

delicious brown megane

Lucas Foster
Lucas Foster


Frontiers group stand out the least
not wanting manly and womanly Bobby

Blake Ross
Blake Ross

Yeah, I post it several days ago.
It was kinda just for fun.
And someone told me the number of wings of Birdman wasn't correct, so I stoped thinking about that theory.

Asher Torres
Asher Torres

Ranka couldn't alter the shape of her hair like Mikumo. She could move her hair due to her Zentradi heritage. Saying that Mikumo's hair is generic because its extremely hard to maintain in real life is a non-argument as it doesn't apply to anime.

Asher Fisher
Asher Fisher

He'll never be a bunny. He was bridge bear

Sebastian Gray
Sebastian Gray

I like them all except for Frontier's. Delta's bridge bunnies surprised me with how likeable they are.

Brody James
Brody James

he'll never be a bunny
he was Frontier's beast of Caerbannog

Robert Miller
Robert Miller

I wonder what the mystery behind Mikumo's here is. Kawamori is something else. Not only did he create a girl who is mysterious, but she's so fucking mysterious, that we are all having a discussion on the mysteriousness of her fucking hair

Kayden Adams
Kayden Adams

My personal pet theory is that she's descended from that protodevilin Basara rescued back in seven.

No, I don't have any basis for it, but the timeline and her appearance fits.

Eli Mitchell
Eli Mitchell

I like the orange one when she was wearing the disguise

Grayson Jackson
Grayson Jackson

I think characterization wise Delta stepped up and outdid frontier. It's only been 7 episodes, yet you can feel how warm and comfortable everyone is with each-other. Right down to Chuck's siblings, to the bridge bunnies, even the mechanics are likable.

Lucas Perez
Lucas Perez

So what you really wanted to say that Freyja and Hayate are siblings.

Aiden Gray
Aiden Gray

Actually have a hard time remembering what Frontiers bunnies were like, with bobby being the one exception. He's easy to remember. I think there was this one bunny who had crush on the captain.

Delta's bunnies are admittedly the smallest group yet (SDF1 had a trio+misa and claudia), so there's fewer to remember, but even so you have good grasp of each one, despite them having pretty few scenes.

Hudson Sanders
Hudson Sanders

7 was the only macross I never watched. Which protodevilin and why the timeline?

Also a lot of people on 2chan are talking about how images of Mikumo can be seen in DYRL, M7, and Frontier. They are also saying that Kawamori has been working on Mikumo since DYRL.

Camden Hall
Camden Hall

that are gonna fuck

Jaxson Rivera
Jaxson Rivera

I've noticed this too with Delta, I've yet to find a character I dislike or think is dumb or has nothing going for him or her. I guess among the recurring characters the mechanics would have to be the most anonymous (dont even have a grasp of just how many they are), but that's obvious given how extremely limited time they've gotten.

Josiah Stewart
Josiah Stewart

I like orange bunny's cocksucking lips.

Tyler Garcia
Tyler Garcia

Any links to these images?

Gavin Johnson
Gavin Johnson

images of Mikumo can be seen in DYRL, M7, and Frontier
Like, in hieroglyphics found in ruins or in the background?

Julian Cooper
Julian Cooper

Asspull machine, for something staff running out of idea then she show up can clear everything.

Ian Baker
Ian Baker

Frontier focused too much for better and for worse on the main triangle. When I watched SDFM and 7 later I noticed those two shows balanced their casts better than F, and Delta so far seems to be doing a better job too.

Zachary Ross
Zachary Ross

7 was the only macross I never watched. Which protodevilin and why the timeline?
Macross seven took place in 2045 and Delta takes place in 2067. Assuming standard human growth rates, it's perfectly plausible for Mikumo to be descended from that protodevilin without time shenanigans.

Like I said, it's not an ironclad theory. It's just something I thought it'd be cool if it were true.

Joseph Powell
Joseph Powell

Michel/Klan got enough development as supplementary characters. Luca/Nanase was really pointless though.

Connor Phillips
Connor Phillips

Maybe Mikumo is Minmay's daughter. She has her hair. Hers with some new alien species she met in the travel.

Oliver Collins
Oliver Collins

Mikumo is Sara, or her daughter. I told you already.

Dylan Gonzalez
Dylan Gonzalez

Luca actually was kind of important with his research. Nanase was pointless, so she was ignored in the movie.

Jose Young
Jose Young

She has Minmay's trademark spiral hair, user. Maybe she's the daughter of Sara's and Minmay's children. Both of them kinda of show up as Newtype Huge Ghosts in Sheryl's manga.

Ethan Long
Ethan Long

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOzNGjj8vcY
randomly came across this, which seems to be 8th episode of the radio show... its just posted randomly on some channel that has virtually no other videos... So I'm wondering wether there is a more official link that has all the episodes anywhere

Ian Jones
Ian Jones

Macross Chronicle Technology 13A: Dimension Weapons (Translation by Sketchley)

The Operation And Restrictions Of Dimension Weapons
“Its thought that the first combat that used an especially large quantity of MDE Dimension Weapons was the large-scale battle of 2059 between the Macross Frontier Fleet and the Vajra (the Macross Galaxy Fleet). In this battle, the tremendous pressure of Dimension Weapons was displayed, as the VF squadrons of the New Unified Forces, who escorted the fleet, and the civilian military provider S.M.S. were equipped with MDE – in order to oppose the Vajra, who had acquired a resistance to reaction weapons -, and used them to crush the Vajra.
Due to their power, usage restrictions similar to those for reaction weapons were established for Dimension Weapons – especially DE and MDE -, by the New Unified Government. Also, severe restrictions were imposed on the harvesting, distribution, and possession of fold quartz, which was indispensable for the production of Dimension Weapons.”

Here is what I think happened. With the advent of Fold Quartz based technology Windermere was probably thinking like Leon Mishima those who have monopoly on Fold Quartz would become an economic and military super power. Meanwhile at the core region Grace blew up Gaul 4 and Frontier started to make their own MDE. When the NUNG finally got details and survived a Vajra invasion they put a restrictions on distribution and sale of Fold Quartz.

Windermere sees it as an Unequal Treaty as restrictions on Fold Quartz puts a kibosh on their ambitions. Their only other export is well apples.

So they had a temper tantrum with a revolution and just to prove their point as they are horrendously outgunned used a Mini-Dimension Eater on Carlisle.

Now their planet is dying. They are looking at an extinction event. All the good planets in the cluster is already occupied so they come up with a mind control scheme using Protoculture ruins.

Hunter Cook
Hunter Cook

this timeline thing from newtype states it pretty much as "matter of fact" that NUG forced unequal treaties onto windermere when they discovered them in 2027.

Brody Flores
Brody Flores

So they had a temper tantrum with a revolution and just to prove their point as they are horrendously outgunned used a Mini-Dimension Eater on Carlisle.
Cool theory user. I seriously doubt Windemere would used an MDE onto themselves on the basis of a "tantrum" if they knew that would be the outcome of their world. Both sides blame each other of the incedent so its still unclear who caused it. That's just too convenient to believe and it doesn't add up.

Aiden Diaz
Aiden Diaz

Can you translate what it says?

Julian Watson
Julian Watson

So a planet full of children was discovered, and they were treated like children. Then they sperged out and proved everyone right.

Ryder Campbell
Ryder Campbell

The sentence of interest is
のちに統合政府はウィンダミア王国に対して不平等予約を押しつける
subsequently, the United goverment pushes unequal treaties onto the kingdom of windermere

Leo Brown
Leo Brown

Windermere sees it as an Unequal Treaty as restrictions on Fold Quartz puts a kibosh on their ambitions. Their only other export is well apples.
you make it sounds like the windermerean has some sort of mean to mine it or something.
isn't it like super rare and can only be mined from vajra?

Cooper Walker
Cooper Walker

33 years passed until Windermere's independence war. That's one whole generation of Windermereans.

Justin Bell
Justin Bell

Having shorter lifespans doesn't make them children. They just don't get much technological advances since they die much earlier than we do.

Aaron Howard
Aaron Howard

The windermerians did nothing wrong.

Matthew Scott
Matthew Scott

They turn into fold quartz when they get old.

Jayden Bailey
Jayden Bailey

He's just speculating. Indeed fold quartz is very rare as they can be harvested from Vajra and Protoculture ruins that Windemere has.

Juan Price
Juan Price

They don't seem to develop faster. They age 30 or so normal years and then they die.
Even the Aerial Knights are largely teenagers acting like teenagers. They're great pilots because of their physiology, but look at Theo, Xao and Bogue for example. They act like kids.
With technological and medical advancements, humans probably live to 100 or so, Zentradi even longer still.
A 60 year old human diplomat is not going to treat an 18 year old like an equal, because to him, that 18 year old is just a child.

Tyler Evans
Tyler Evans

Newtype
It's not official.

Jace Allen
Jace Allen

EPISODE WHEN

Lucas Allen
Lucas Allen

They don't seem to develop faster.
They don't because they haven't much time to do so. Once they hit puberty they're expected to find a mate, get married, and start a family.

Even the Aerial Knights are largely teenagers acting like teenagers
That's because most of them are with the exception of Keith, Cassim, and Herman.

With technological and medical advancements, humans probably live to 100 or so, Zentradi even longer still.
It doesn't matter with the Windemereans as it doesn't seem to affect their lifespan.

A 60 year old human diplomat is not going to treat an 18 year old like an equal, because to him, that 18 year old is just a child.
Of course not. A diplomat who's aware of the physiology of another race should properly treat him equally regardless. Roid is only 20 years old yet the Voldoran Elder still treated him well.

Oliver Wood
Oliver Wood

My point is that they don't have the wisdom that comes with age, and never had the chance to develop it. They're dying just as they're getting their heads screwed on straight.
Children give birth to children. Children run many things. A 25 year old is considered an elder, when for humans it's still young.

No one is going to treat them like equals, because quite frankly, they're not. As a result, they ended up with terms they felt were unfair; tough shit kids, you're not getting happy meals because the adults said so.
They had 3 choices at that point. Accept the hand they were dealt, prove to the rest of the galaxy that they could sit at the big kids table, or lash out. They chose option 3.

Carson Butler
Carson Butler

http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/85063
macross will never beat this

Leo Anderson
Leo Anderson

I can't blame them for thinking that with their short lifespan they are better off isolating themselves.

Tyler Torres
Tyler Torres

By that logic so's Hayate, not saying that's not true mind.

Josiah Smith
Josiah Smith

ラブライブ
not dead meat

Dominic Butler
Dominic Butler

Macross Frontier movie sold more. You mean Delta?

Jack Reyes
Jack Reyes

I can't either.
I don't think they're evil. They're just stuck with a culture and a mindset that's so different from the rest of the galaxy. Their lives end before the lives of some other races even truly begin. It creates an insurmountable gulf between Windemere and the rest of the galaxy.
I just think they're going about dealing with it the wrong way. Their actions are proving to the galaxy that, while formidable opponents, they are not mature enough to be fully fledged members of galactic society.

This series will probably end with Windemerians having some kind of culture shift.

Nolan Bailey
Nolan Bailey

So what was this about?

Jaxson Thomas
Jaxson Thomas

it seems like an event, they got 51149 people, 10 000 more than last year.

Nathaniel Hernandez
Nathaniel Hernandez

She looked better in the niconamas for Saekano though. Something something makeup.

Andrew Hill
Andrew Hill

Who had an event? If its Love Live I'm not really surprised with the amount rabid fans it has.

Justin Williams
Justin Williams

it's love live yeah.

Landon Rivera
Landon Rivera

Invading other planets isn't really isolationism

Logan Lopez
Logan Lopez

2 more hours to go til episode 8. I'm looking forward on how Hayate and company will escape.

Jacob Wood
Jacob Wood

he's not a bad pilot per se, just reckless

Jaxon Martin
Jaxon Martin

I'm looking forward on how Hayate and company will escape.
I bet Mikumo will save the day yet again

Jonathan Kelly
Jonathan Kelly

yfw it's actually chuck

Michael Bailey
Michael Bailey

it will be a mikumo messer combo. Mikumo will cause something to happen randomly with the ruins, allowing for the three to get away, then messer will show up and pick them up in his valkyrie

Easton White
Easton White

That's pretty much Japan before they opened up to the west. Will the samurai lynch Kawamori for this?

Aiden Lopez
Aiden Lopez

But Chuck is too busy with bridge bunnies

Colton Rodriguez
Colton Rodriguez

he get's killed in the escape

Brandon Walker
Brandon Walker

so the windermereans have some grievances with the NUG

how does that excuse attacking pop concerts

Joseph Collins
Joseph Collins

on ep 4? that's just a distraction, the main army was busy taking over voldor or something.

Eli Perry
Eli Perry

Said idols are the biggest obstacle to their plans as they can unbrainwash their slave soldiers.

Windermere does not have the military forces to take on a serious NUNS. So they turn to either MDE or brainwashing.

Alexander Cruz
Alexander Cruz

Anyone else feel that the Walkure are more Spec ops turned idol than the other way around?

Carter Morales
Carter Morales

So they turn to either MDE or brainwashing.
There's no definite proof yet that Windemere is behind the use of MDE on their homeworld as both sides blame each other.

Cooper Robinson
Cooper Robinson

Other than Freyja, yeah.

Grayson Clark
Grayson Clark

It doesn't excuse them of anything. They used experimental biological warfare to cause indiscriminate civilian casualties for years. They directly attacked and destroyed defense forces and possibly causing more civilian casualties on at least one occasion before they actually came out and made declarations of war. They're waging a belligerent war against a number of planets. They're even suspected (but we can't know for certain yet) of having used dimensional weapons on their civilians and the blame it on the other side to rally its population.

While we can't know for certain yet about the final one, the Windermerean nobility still are pretty much class A war criminals at this point.

Lincoln Watson
Lincoln Watson

no fucking shit

Tyler Young
Tyler Young

it could be that Char dude from Macross E

Carter Anderson
Carter Anderson

Keith called the hole at Scarfell their brand of shame. Roid doesn't contradict what the Voldor leader said. The NUN already restricted Dimesion Weapons from being used.

Windermere only won because it got a ceasefire after the MDE happened. Before that they were losing.

Nathan Myers
Nathan Myers

Walkure are tactical sound unit brought about for the express purpose of surpressing Var syndrome. We have in universe prescedents of similiar units with Macross 7's Sound force and even the jamming birds, though they were a bit different.

Also, mankind (and in a way its allies, at least as far as zentradi goes) owes their very existance and current way of life to pop idols, music and culture. We have several cases of music also producing very tangible effects. It's not so weird from an in universe perspective

Matthew Robinson
Matthew Robinson

hey, freyja also got espionage training in-between her dance classes.

Charles Rodriguez
Charles Rodriguez

That's still not definite proof that Windemere were behind it. Keith probably called it that because their world became a casualty of their war for independence and not that they actually used an MDE. Roid not contradicting doesn't direct implicate them either and he's acknowledging what the Voldor leader said.

Brandon Reyes
Brandon Reyes

Didn't he have runes

Cooper Johnson
Cooper Johnson

Kaname was a retired idol aiming to be a manager of Walkure till she got recruited to be one. Makina comes from a long line of mechanics, she loves mecha but she also loves idol. Reina got caught hacking into Chaos and got recruited. All got recruited as Walkure because they have Fold Receptor Factor. The same power Basara, Mylene, Emilia, The Nomes Sara, Mao, and Sheryl, and Ranka all have.

Mikumo is their center and ace who is mysterious.

Tyler Brooks
Tyler Brooks

the guy who pretended to have the var is from hayate' mechanic Team, right?

Sebastian Miller
Sebastian Miller

Yep

Zachary Anderson
Zachary Anderson

too hard to tell, it could be his mask's accessory/attachment.

Bentley Davis
Bentley Davis

I think we better start a new thread.

Jeremiah Harris
Jeremiah Harris

Unless the art is shittier than it was, it looked like slaps of his helmet.

Isaac Ortiz
Isaac Ortiz

new

/a/thread/141851904#p141851904
/a/thread/141851904#p141851904

Jaxson Brooks
Jaxson Brooks

New
/a/thread/141851917#p141851917
/a/thread/141851917#p141851917

Ian Foster
Ian Foster

And it could be brand of shame because of their impotence to stop the Nuns. The king is convinced that was the Nuns, by the way. Roid might just choose to not argue the point. He was very elusive including on his beliefs. Bogue, an Aerial Knight, seems to believe is the NUNs' fault. That's likely the source of his hatred.

Chase Hall
Chase Hall

10/10

Juan Watson
Juan Watson

Wow, seconds of difference. Funny.

Elijah Gonzalez
Elijah Gonzalez

Which one

Samuel Ward
Samuel Ward

wew lad

Matthew Young
Matthew Young

Said idols are the biggest obstacle to their plans as they can unbrainwash their slave soldiers.

If Roid wanted them dead, he wouldn't have stopped the attack. It was obvious that they could have easily nuked them in episode 4 and in episode 1, but Roid stopped them and forced them to withdraw which annoyed the rest.

You should pay attention. He's the one getting data of them.

Nicholas Reed
Nicholas Reed

The Freyja thread, lads.

Sebastian Flores
Sebastian Flores

It sounds like a bomb was dropped on Windermere, none of the sides did it but they keep blaming each other because they were at war. Roid might be using the bomb as a threat to control other planets with more ease. I really doubt they would reveal who is behind the incident this soon.

Jack Green
Jack Green

Were they separated at birth?

Sebastian Diaz
Sebastian Diaz

Pick one

The one with a Kirara

Dominic Thomas
Dominic Thomas

Roid doesn't seem to give a shit about the war in general. See here He dislikes violence but he's using this to get info of the protoculture. If wasn't for Roid, Delta and the Walkure would have died in episode 1.

Andrew Torres
Andrew Torres

Nina - the one with a mercat

Colton Cook
Colton Cook

Who?

Nathaniel Collins
Nathaniel Collins

神秘

Adam Edwards
Adam Edwards

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