Baki Dou 110

Anthony Bell
Anthony Bell

There's no stopping Musashi's wild ride.

Also Memetobe is back too.

All urls found in this thread:
http://www.yuncomics.com/archives/1687227
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCbaMqyG2tA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarian
http://www.yuncomics.com/archives
http://www.yuncomics.com/archives/1687227
http://zangsisi.net/?p=105344
Connor Russell
Connor Russell

And I really hope this was only figurative and Musashi didn't actually imagination cut down a building.

Jason Cox
Jason Cox

post the link to the chapter:

http://www.yuncomics.com/archives/1687227

Asher Martin
Asher Martin

People stocked nukes just because of Yujiro, I can imagine musashi cutting a building.

Grayson Barnes
Grayson Barnes

Thanks, I meant to do so but forgot to paste.

Yeah, but if the imagination bullshit was capable of such destruction then they pretty much become standard shonen ki users by this point.

Logan Butler
Logan Butler

Planet buster level, when?

Adrian Phillips
Adrian Phillips

Also, I don't he has imagination cut anything inanimate before.

Aaron Wood
Aaron Wood

gaia brought a gun to a baki fight

Jack Morales
Jack Morales

So did Speck.

Henry Sanchez
Henry Sanchez

Speck was a moron.

Jack Peterson
Jack Peterson

So who else needs to job before Musashi and Memetobe finally fight? Because after Jack and Pickle, Gaia is pretty pointless.

Evan Davis
Evan Davis

I'm fairly new to Baki but I just wanted to say it doesn't get nearly enough love.
Gaia will job sto hype Memetobe even more even if he's literallywho-tier.

Christopher Fisher
Christopher Fisher

Che and his army

Zachary Perez
Zachary Perez

Che has no victory worth shit though.
Gaia at least kind of killed Baki, and beat the fucking piss out of one of the Prisoners, who were the Arc bosses

Julian Wood
Julian Wood

Memetobe making Oliva job has to happen.

Lucas Bennett
Lucas Bennett

Katsumi?

William Stewart
William Stewart

Worse than Doppo/Retsu. Not even worth for jobbing.

Julian Anderson
Julian Anderson

He could use losing another arm or a leg.

Samuel Campbell
Samuel Campbell

Maybe he inherited the will of retsu and seriously combines chinese and japanese arts now.

Aiden Nelson
Aiden Nelson

Anyone else hated the fuck out of him before that arc? I know that's kinda the point but holy shit if he was unbearable.

Logan Powell
Logan Powell

Che has an entire army of guys with his moveset

Brody Edwards
Brody Edwards

hahaha people over-reacting to yuujiro out of hysteria isn't as ridiculous as yujiro genuinely being super-powered.

Yujiro punched an earth quake but that was left as ambiguous whether his punch did anything or whether it earthquake stopped by itself.

When Oliva said "If I didn't limit my own muscles they'd expand and destroy this entire prison!" but then it turned out he was just making shit up because yolo.

Adrian Powell
Adrian Powell

Maybe Gaia is just the Mememaster's opening distraction. Because this does seem pretty pointless otherwise.

Chase Reyes
Chase Reyes

at least you aren't alone in that regard

Daniel Bell
Daniel Bell

It made me so happy seeing Doppo finally proud of his son.

Aaron Williams
Aaron Williams

Gaia jobs again

Jason Ortiz
Jason Ortiz

The one arm thing seriously sucks, but he is still the "hardest and fastest" hitter in the Baki series. I really enjoyed him during that arc. I wouldn't really want him to show up and die like Retsu, though.

Aiden Evans
Aiden Evans

"""hardest and fastest" hitter"" hum.... Well this is 10 years ago, today the things are different

Ryan Butler
Ryan Butler

In story it's like a few months, is it not?

Easton Morris
Easton Morris

He is probably the most balanced non-Hanma hand-to-hand fighter now that Retsu bit the dust.

Wyatt Roberts
Wyatt Roberts

you mean hand-to-hands?

Christopher Jones
Christopher Jones

Che did beat the mouth who in turn beat the fuck out of mcgregor,that doesn't say much but it's still more impresive than Gaia losing to kid Baki.

Elijah Lee
Elijah Lee

God what was itagaki thinking with that pube beard

Joseph Powell
Joseph Powell

In real world, (4 in fact) Itigaki mind is the thing, every change since the end of son of ogre and the beginning of Dou

David Ortiz
David Ortiz

got me laughing

Levi Bailey
Levi Bailey

Exactly, and remember, Che fight Oliva in a pretty much "sportive fighting " he only able to use 1 or 2 tricks, Guevara is a warrior, a tatical soldier, in a real fight he is able to make a amazing fight against Musashi. And in the romance book a old woman is able to escape from Musashi using a eye attack very similar to used by Che and Dorian.

Robert Phillips
Robert Phillips

Gaia is back
what he could possibly do here
bring back the sumo guy who destroyed Motobe already, and have him destroy Musashi too

Samuel Kelly
Samuel Kelly

it runs in the family

Elijah Cooper
Elijah Cooper

but Kats is adopted

Nathan Peterson
Nathan Peterson

oh fuck gaia got got
who the fuck leveled this chapter though, really, how fuckin bad at this can you be after all these chapters

Musashi is musing about how the building can be standing, from what I can tell of the Japanese script underneath. Skyscrapers couldn't be built in his time because of different construction methods - he says something about how it's perfectly straight-up. He didn't literally destroy the building, he's imagining what it would look like if it collapsed under its weight (or so it appears) from the four top corners down. Maybe this is Itagaki's way of sneakily showing off his beliefs about 9/11. Fairly sure Musashi is also guessing Gaia's age, when he's saying '15-16' something.

Since this is pretty much a pure dialogue chapter, I'll see about TLing it when senmanga gets their shit together (in 2 days). I do hope Gaia does something awesome to Musashi, instead of being just another pointless victim. The gun could have made that happen. Maybe he has another gun. Gaia having learned gun kata? I think that'd be bretty alright.

captcha is selecting skyscrapers
kek

Caleb Hughes
Caleb Hughes

I was rereading the previous series and I have to say I adore this page.

Ryder Lopez
Ryder Lopez

Fairly sure Musashi is also guessing Gaia's age, when he's saying '15-16'
Isn't he like 30 by this point? He's at least older than Baki.

Alexander James
Alexander James

Yeah, but he has child-face, remember? That was definitely something said at least once in series 1. Plus Musashi is not the best estimator of who/what a person is - he thought Payne was Portuguese for no real reason.

Robert Richardson
Robert Richardson

baki magic

pickles nuts had to be pretty sore at that point, got hit by katsumi and retsu as well

Jaxson Green
Jaxson Green

That's probably because Portugal was all the contact Japan had with white people back in his day.

Noah Parker
Noah Parker

he thought Payne was Portuguese for no real reason

As far as a 16th/17th century Japanese man was concerned a Westerner could be either that or a Dutchman.

Nicholas Bell
Nicholas Bell

in the romance book a old woman is able to escape from Musashi using a eye attack very similar to used by Che and Dorian.
pray tell, that sounds funny

Dylan King
Dylan King

no reason

other than that they were among the first western people to come to Japan

Logan Parker
Logan Parker

japs learned how to build proper ships from an Englishman

Luis Sanders
Luis Sanders

did you all forget that he had like a 6 hour Q&A with Tokugawa and the scientists
he knows there's more of a world out there than just Japan, China and Portugal; he consciously chose to say what he said instead of just "foreigner" or something

Jaxon Flores
Jaxon Flores

I love this brand of stylized ambiguity though.

My favorite example were the GPS signals shifting when Oliva smashed Che into the ground. Coupled with Che making a point of attacking with the power of the Earth, it was as if Oliva managed to shift the whole planet by a few meters with his raw strength.

After a second you realize it's because they're being tracked by satellites and this was set up ahead of time, but it makes the imagery of what was a simple resolution to a fight very powerful.

Aiden Cooper
Aiden Cooper

The scientists were all Japanese, weren't they? Why would Musashi assume generic foreigners would look like the Portuguese (White) instead of like Asians (e.g. the Chinese).

Connor Young
Connor Young

Portuguese (White)

Andrew Lopez
Andrew Lopez

iunno
Why would he assume *anyone* in modern day Japan is or isn't Japanese? Payne is speaking perfect Japanese to him, and Musashi bluntly claims that he doesn't understand his language. Top right.

Parker Butler
Parker Butler

How much would modern Japanese differ from the one spoken during the time of Musashi?

Hunter Morris
Hunter Morris

Why would he assume *anyone* in modern day Japan is or isn't Japanese?

If the Portuguese are the only Whites he's ever seen he's likely to consider traits specific to Whites in general as specific to the Portuguese in particular.

Other far foreigners might well look like green ayy lmaos as far as he's concerned.

Plus, could the current word for the Portuguese have been more generic when it was first used (I don't speak Japanese)? I know the current Slav word for Germans basically means "foreigner".

Carter Morales
Carter Morales

Depends on who you asked and where you lived. Ultimately, this Musashi pretty much just speaks normal present-Modern Japanese with a few older words/phrases thrown in for flavor. It's pretty much the equivalent of someone using "thee" and "New-Worlder" instead of "you" and "American". Even though you don't use those words ever, your brain doesn't have to separately process it.

Austin Taylor
Austin Taylor

It's basically how all east asians are consider mongoloids by europeans mainly because Mongols were the only east asians europeans had any contact with.up until that point.

Ryder Baker
Ryder Baker

Did the author learn anatomy yet?

Nicholas Turner
Nicholas Turner

he invented anatomy

Cameron Cruz
Cameron Cruz

#feelthepayne

Nolan Green
Nolan Green

Plus, could the current word for the Portuguese have been more generic when it was first used
He uses an old word with racist connotations that originated from China. Means "southern barbarian". It was later re-purposed to apply to the Portuguese, with mildly less offensive connotations. The Japanese did not quite like the Portuguese.

David Garcia
David Garcia

Seems quite generic then, like the Slavic "nemtsy" (foreigners in general but mostly Germans) or the Arabic "ajam" (foreigners in general but mostly Persians).

Henry Rodriguez
Henry Rodriguez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCbaMqyG2tA

I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU, GO BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY, NIPPON STRONG

Robert Jenkins
Robert Jenkins

It's not; they used other words to specifically refer to the Dutch and the English and the Koreans and so on.

Ayden Sanders
Ayden Sanders

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarian

When Europeans came to Japan, they were called nanban (南蛮?), literally Barbarians from the South, because the Portuguese ships appeared to sail from the South. The Dutch, who arrived later, were also called either nanban or kōmō (紅毛?), literally meaning "Red Hair."

The Dutch, who arrived later, were also called either nanban

Assuming "nanban" is the term in question.

Sebastian Hall
Sebastian Hall

Would Musashi have met the Dutch or English though? They mainly focused on trade while the Portuguese were big into proselytizing and such until the shogunate got angry with that shit.

Luke Foster
Luke Foster

It's quite ironic that the japs called the Europeans barbarians even though they were clearly technologically superior.

Alexander Clark
Alexander Clark

The Chinese characters for ang mo are the same as those in the historical Japanese term kōmō (紅毛?), which was used during the Edo period (1603–1868) as an epithet for (northwestern European) white people.
It primarily referred to Dutch traders who were the only Europeans allowed to trade with Japan during its 200-year period of isolation.[2]
Portuguese and Spanish traders were in contrast referred to as nanban (南蛮)

Matthew Morris
Matthew Morris

Einstein (which Payne seems to be basedon) didn't really look northwestern (fair haired and light eyed) European though, his eyes were brown and his hair was black (before it was white). Did we ever see Payne in color?

They held onto this sort of attitude well into modern times though. Even in the 19th century they considered the Japanese spirit and civilization superior, with Western technology just being accidentally superior and to be appropriated by their betters (the Wakon Yousai concept).

Owen Cruz
Owen Cruz

Technology is not the only thing that matters in a civilization. If it was, we'd all be dead.

Bentley Williams
Bentley Williams

Do Caucasians Arr Rook Same to Asians?

Michael Lopez
Michael Lopez

Inferior civilizations will also produce inferior technology though,in the case of Japs them having their borders closed also played a role.

Joshua Rivera
Joshua Rivera

didn't really look northwestern European though
hence Portuguese...?

Thomas Nguyen
Thomas Nguyen

that's not what nobunaga told me

Adrian Robinson
Adrian Robinson

no no dude your people are totally cool with me
now give me more guns pls
mhm

Wyatt Butler
Wyatt Butler

That's the two options he's aware of, no? Assuming he even saw a Dutch person at any point; he's probably seen a Portuguese.

meet green ayy lmaos from Mars
get told the universe is full of differencent intelligent species
later meet more green ayy lmaos
assume they're from Mars
they call me speciest because they're from a whole different galaxy and besides their xvyzbls are a completely different shape from those of martians
turns out there's lots of types of green ayy lmaos and they all have subtle differences

Jackson Hill
Jackson Hill

"Inferior" is completely subjective to interpretation in this case. Like other guy said, cultures have faith in the abilities of their people and in their own technologies.

what are you trying to argue now, I'm lost

Asher Rogers
Asher Rogers

what are you trying to argue now, I'm lost

That Musashi is perfectly reasonable in assuming white foreigners without the traits the Red Hairs were named for are Portuguese.

All the other foreigners he is likely to be aware of (e.g. the Korean or Chinese) are Asiatic.

Nathaniel Torres
Nathaniel Torres

Inferior" is completely subjective
Not in this case,technology is not art and it's value can easily be determined.An unit of portuguese soldiers would have destroyed an unit of samurai.

Alexander Russell
Alexander Russell

assuming the value of technology is its capacity to conquer in the hands of a set, predetermined group of users
Stop this line of thought, I don't have enough energy to care anymore

Luke Cox
Luke Cox

Well what other fucking use does technology have?

Humanity only evolved during times of war,this is an objective fact,just look at the current state of europe and america,completele moral decay and the death of civilization.All of your abstract concept of what technology is suppose to be means absolutely jackshit if a country cna simply use superior firepower to destroy your nation and take it away from you...

John Myers
John Myers

Humanity only evolved during times of war,this is an objective fact
your abstract concept of what technology is suppose to be means absolutely jackshit if...
moral decay and the death of civilization
stop
eugh
no
help
/pol/

or /lit/
if you want to learn what the words you use mean

abandon thread

Owen Long
Owen Long

muh /pol/ boogeyman
Yeah so you basically have no argument and decide to use buzzwords instead?If i'm wrong then how come they didn't split the atom in times of peace but instead they only did it so they can bomb the fuck out of their enemy?

Fae it faggot,human need adversity to evolve,in times of peace they get complacent and lazy.

Matthew Martinez
Matthew Martinez

moral decay
death of civilization

Brody Russell
Brody Russell

feminism
political correctness
multiculturalism
gay marriage
transgender toilets
body acceptance

What else would you call this other than complete moral decay?It all started precisely because we started demonizing male values and instead let the cunts rule our countries.

Male values
honor
dignity
camaraderie
basic human decency

Female values
weakness
deceit
hypocrisy
complete lack of honor or loyalty

Xavier Barnes
Xavier Barnes

female bed
male gud
things that have existed before but totally is le western moral decay

user, if you're going to buzz it up more in a baki thread, I'll have to redirect you to another board

Sebastian Sanders
Sebastian Sanders

holy shit this manga's artwork is fucking ugly.

Jack Lee
Jack Lee

mocks other user by saying "muh /pol/" boogeyman
proceeds to shitpost /pol/ memes

Hudson Butler
Hudson Butler

Say it wouldn't hype for Musashi to kill like a dozen of Che's soldiers

Isaac Butler
Isaac Butler

He's more than enough hyped up for me, it wouldn't be too bad to get another fight that isn't pure jobbing.

Dominic Morales
Dominic Morales

GLORIOUS NIPPON STRONG

ANCIENT MARTIAL ARTS BEST WEAPONS

IMAGINARY SWORDS FOLDED OVER 9000 TIMES

Nah, jobbers will be there.

Benjamin Long
Benjamin Long

Did the author learn anatomy yet?
If you think this is bad, I implore you to read Garouden.

Jonathan Miller
Jonathan Miller

Wats the point of musahsi facing other caracter when it was show how he could fight at yujiros level.

Jose Harris
Jose Harris

Ancient Nippon stronk, bitch boy.

Chase Bennett
Chase Bennett

Let's be honest though. When was the last time we had fights that weren't pure Jobbing?

Closest thing was Katsumi vs. Pickle, and we knew Kasumi wasn't going to win.

Luis Moore
Luis Moore

Garouden had better anatomy than Baki though.

Charles Hughes
Charles Hughes

Well we had Baki vs Yujiro.

Wyatt Brown
Wyatt Brown

I never believed that was a close fight at all, even if Yujiro "conceded." Fair enough though.

Colton Clark
Colton Clark

Not really, it's just as bad. For example their overly long legs. Not to mention that just like Baki, Garouden had blows strong enough to knock teeth out like glass yet a few chapters later the characters would have teeth again.

It's mind bogling.

Asher Thomas
Asher Thomas

they all had really good dental. Happens in Baki too

Cameron Lewis
Cameron Lewis

This is one of my major gripes with fighting and hero comics.

Gavin Allen
Gavin Allen

How many times did Jack lose all his teeth?It was like the 4th time against memetobe.

Jordan Nelson
Jordan Nelson

AND THEY WERE SCRWED IN THIS TIME

Ayden King
Ayden King

That can't be healthy.

Parker Watson
Parker Watson

He's a walking pharmaceutical dump, he's going to die anyway.

I've felt sorry for Jack the most out of all the fighters. Just because he's half white he gets tossed around by the nips because Itagaki wants so.

Bentley Jenkins
Bentley Jenkins

But Oliva is 0% nip and he's one of the strongest, and a cool guy who leads a great life.

Easton Butler
Easton Butler

Still got beaten by Baki And Yujiro. But because he's in his turf, the USA, of course he'll do well there.

Adrian James
Adrian James

Yeah honestly Jack's one of my favorites, past Retsu. (So I guess he's my favorite now...)

I'm really not a fan of how the side characters in this Manga are treated. It's not nearly as fun when stuff like Pickle and Musashi just pop up and run a train through all the other fighters to prove how legit they are.

I'm honestly happy Jack at least lost to someone who wasn't Musashi, I'd probably just get more annoyed.

Carter Gonzalez
Carter Gonzalez

Man this whole Musashi arc has honestly been boring me to death,over 100 chapters and we still didn't have a real fight that's not just jobbing yet,i just wasnt memetobe to kill this faggot already.

Speaking of which who do you think baki will have to face next arc?I hope they're revive the first Hanma's or fuck it even aliens would be fine at this point.

Charles Cruz
Charles Cruz

Some other over the top hystorical figure would be great.
Maybe Genghis Khan.

Grayson Martin
Grayson Martin

Here's something that will NEVER happen:

Retsu is cloned and brought back to life, spirit and all.

He then fights Musashi again and defeats him, proving that even beyond death, Chinese martial arts are superior to Japanese martial arts.

Dominic Martin
Dominic Martin

Speaking of 'muh chinese arts', I could actually see an arc dealing with kaku again.
Doesnt have to be yujiro or baki in the final confrontation, but the fucker's been inactive, and retsu just died, so the time would fit.

Leo Campbell
Leo Campbell

who do you think baki will have to face next arc?
Hopefully someone that isn't as "obvious" in style as Musashi. Maybe the fighters will concede that they're weaker than weapon users if Motobe ends up killing Musashi, and Motobe will become the next boss. Reviving the first Hanmas might be weird - I'd much rather just have Yuichiro back.

Kaku should be the one to get the killing blow on Musashi: use the sucker punch he got off on Motobe as a Chekhov's Gun for when Motobe's losing ground in his fight against Musashi; have Kaku just pop up and remove Musashi's spine with a hyposthenic grab. But what you said just reminded me - Gaia came back to go against Musashi despite getting decked by Motobe like a day ago. Who's to say that Jack, Doppo and the others might not come around?

Cooper Hernandez
Cooper Hernandez

maybe they'll come around, but there's zero chance they get to do shit.

Xavier Morris
Xavier Morris

Speaking of which who do you think baki will have to face next arc?I

I'm personally hoping for cyborgs.

Aiden Collins
Aiden Collins

Ah fuck there's no END to this Musashi bullshit.

Parker Ramirez
Parker Ramirez

They did in the Ali Jr arc, and that was pretty fun.

Carter Smith
Carter Smith

That's true. I have severe doubts Musashi's going to get thrashed by literally every character, though.

Hudson White
Hudson White

For all you guys talk about Itagaki's nationalistic wank, he did have Retsu (kung fu) one-shotting Katsumi (karate).

And yes, Baki did beat Retsu, but he's not representing any national martial art like the other two.

Xavier Gomez
Xavier Gomez

I'm personally hoping for cyborgs.
Or aliens, time travelers from the future or demons. It's funny how anything from DBZ would fit.

Aside from that, revived Hanma ancestors and/or more clones of historical fighters like Musashi.

Ryder Diaz
Ryder Diaz

The fact that Che and Oliva are even in the running for strongest speaks to the idea that Itagaki is *not* trying to be nationalistic. They're just two random guys from terrible places.

Jayden Reyes
Jayden Reyes

Isn't Che actually Japanese and Wild Fag rewrote the "translation" to make him the real life guy? I seem to remember that's how it went.

Camden Wilson
Camden Wilson

Retsu also beat Katsumi quite easily and made a point about "muh 3000 years old chink martial arts" hell.

If we were to name the strongest characters int he series only Musashi is actually Japanese.

Retsu
Kaku
Pickle
Yujiro
Baki
Jack
Oliva
None of them are fully Japanese nor do they practice a japanese martial art.

Samuel Reed
Samuel Reed

It reminds me of the tournament arc in Garouden. People from various different countries representing their own martial arts got beaten by the Japanese who used Karate and wrestling.

I don't mind him being nationalistic, there's just no variety. We know what's going to happen most of the time.

Dominic Nguyen
Dominic Nguyen

There's no doubt he is very nationalistic, and there is nothing wrong with it. Although it can be annoying at times it's refreshing from all the self hating coming from comics.

Joseph Barnes
Joseph Barnes

They did butcher the translation to an inhuman extent, but he is still clearly supposed to be Che Guevara.
Jun Gebaru

I'm also 99% sure he's still not from Japan, but I have no ground on which to say that. Gonna look in the raws. If anybody knows what volume and/or chapter his backstory is in (the bit with him as a sailor), tell me; it'll make this a lot faster. It probably says where he's from on this page, but the text is too small for me to read most of it so I'm not going to try.

Nicholas Russell
Nicholas Russell

Doppo, Aiki guy and Jack?

Jordan Johnson
Jordan Johnson

Is Retsu still kill?

Lucas Torres
Lucas Torres

Jack is a "pit-fighter", a term that means nothing in context.

You can argue that karate isn't Japanese because Ryukyu and Okinawa weren't really integrated into the state until recent history.

idk about Shibukawa, make your own argument.

Brandon Price
Brandon Price

I did mention Jack and don't think Doppo or Shibukawa can beat anyone on that list.

Nathaniel Nguyen
Nathaniel Nguyen

Bump for Baki goodness.

Matthew Parker
Matthew Parker

Shibukawa
Can't beat oliva
I think he might be, seeing as he can dislocate the guys wrists without touching them, but then again, in the later half things got a bit out of control, especially with the toughness of the fighters.

Cameron Thompson
Cameron Thompson

Shibukawa was able to out-wrist Musashi, so I think he can still take Oliva.

That being said, Doppo, Shibukawa and Retsu were essentially all on the same level. That doesn't mean they'd all each individually win against a specific person, but it's unfair to say that Doppo couldn't possibly fight Jack or something.

Joshua Reed
Joshua Reed

By the way, I just noticed Baki Dou is up to 91 on spinyback. I hadn't even bothered checking because it's usually announced in these threads.

same level
Wasn't Katsumi hyped as better than Doppo during the tournament? This is before Retsu one-shotted him. I'd put Retsu a tier above the other two, I can't see a fight between him and Doppo going much differently.

Jackson Murphy
Jackson Murphy

the guy whose grandfather is a ninja is not Japanese
alright

Evan Edwards
Evan Edwards

By the way, I just noticed Baki Dou is up to 91 on spinyback. I hadn't even bothered checking because it's usually announced in these threads.
I would have announced it had Dear Leader said anything... our dropbox hasn't been changed or updated, so idk what the deal is. Chapter 257 is also out on there, yay. Enjoy the stuff, friends.

Wasn't Katsumi hyped as better than Doppo during the tournament?
He was, and then Doppo realized how retarded Katsumi was. He'd never put Katsumi in a 'match' situation before; I guess he didn't know how Katsumi would behave. Regardless, I don't consider Katsumi to be equal to Doppo and friends - in particular because of what Shibukawa said to Doppo in *their* fight, and also because he's missing a fucking arm.

Ryan Anderson
Ryan Anderson

hey I said find me the fuckin chapter, not give me lip, boy

Ryder Carter
Ryder Carter

Shin Garouden translation When?!?!?!?! :(

Nathaniel Hill
Nathaniel Hill

We literally had this discussion like a month ago down to the finding the chapter thing

Oliver Lopez
Oliver Lopez

If you guys keep asking, you'll probably get it. The key is to ask through email or something, and not through anonymous posts on Torajan tau tau cliffsides.

Dylan Cox
Dylan Cox

I'll look for the email then!

Jordan Watson
Jordan Watson

I don't recall you finding me the chapter then, either

Jayden Moore
Jayden Moore

No, Musashi is too op, maybe a double draw, remember, sumo is part of samurai training too.

Sebastian Collins
Sebastian Collins

should be [email protected]
this is what the Credits page is for

Zachary Ramirez
Zachary Ramirez

wait, garuden is continuing?

Dylan Hall
Dylan Hall

No; it's the prequel or first series or something

Oliver Clark
Oliver Clark

SON OF OGRE VOLUME 6, CHAPTER 43

It wasn't a month ago, it was two months ago and I told you the volume which should be enough and you never did anything about it. Guess your memory is another thing that's short

Cameron Adams
Cameron Adams

By the way, are Iron Michael and Ian McGregor the same guy? It makes sense that the latter is just the reference to Tyson changed for TV, but Wild Fags uses both names, one for Baki's imagination training partner, and the other for the guy in prison.

Landon Bell
Landon Bell

Shin Garouden is the sequel.

Daniel Rivera
Daniel Rivera

that's because it's hard to download these fucking volumes and you know it; I think my net died halfway through and I got mad or something
ill figure it out hold on

No, they're totally different. McGregor wouldn't be much of a warmup anyway - he wouldn't have been nearly strong enough for Baki post-Oliva, which is when Iron Michael appears.

Julian James
Julian James

Only the fire weapons are better, other technologies and culture are very superior in Japan

Colton Gonzalez
Colton Gonzalez

In the Ametalk video they refer to the boxer from the Tournament as Iron Michael.

he wouldn't have been nearly strong enough for Baki post-Oliva
That part with the imagination training was actually from the very start of Son of Ogre, even before the Mantis.

Oliver Gutierrez
Oliver Gutierrez

was actually from the very start of Son of Ogre
my bad, shit memory
I have no idea why they would be calling Ian McGregor "Michael" anything, though. Problem is that I can't know if there's a point where he was given that nickname without reading the entire fucking manga raw again, which I'm not doing. He might be called both names and never be officially 'given' the nickname, too. I'll figure it out, somehow. Gimme like an hour.

Josiah Long
Josiah Long

Don't sweat it, just random questions I never remember in time for these threads. Just answer in the next one or whatever, even if I miss it I always check the archives. Keep up the good work.

Jaxson Allen
Jaxson Allen

Found exactly what I was looking for: Baki calling him Iron Michael. What I didn't find: someone actually calling him Ian. The next time someone refers to him (and he's not physically there) as Michael, Wild Fang put it as McGregor. In at least 5 places now where they wrote "Ian" or "McGregor", it just says Michael. I think he flat-out might just be called Iron Michael, and we've been getting fucked for however long.

Next post is on our Dearest Second-Strongest.

Mason Diaz
Mason Diaz

So his name is read as "Jun Gebaru", as I said before: nobody knows how it's written or the kanji for sure, but the Jun part is 'surely' derived from junsui; meaning 'pure', or 'true'. Reference point for readers: when Yuujiro says that Musashi lacks purity, he uses the word jundo, which is 'purity'. They share a root.

However, in English, he's not called Jun. He goes by "Jei" Gebaru - the 'Jei' pronounced and written as the letter "J". No reason is given for this change whatsoever, so it's pretty obvious he's supposed to be Che. He's a third-generation immigrant; called 'sansei' (google it), meaning that only his grandparents were born in Japan. His parents were born somewhere in South America, and so was he. No location beyond "South America" is ever specified, ignore it all. He's 21 when we meet him in the story, oddly enough. Wild Fang lied about that too; dunno what the fuck. The island isn't called "La Serna"; it's not given a name. Like half of the scripts of these chapters are made up, I dunno why. He had a turning point when he was *17*; wanted to create his own independent nation. He was trained *only* by his grandfather, who put him in a special advanced program. The people of his island didn't think he was too young; they just didn't trust him. "Bush" is "Bosshu". Fucking I don't care anymore, I'm done writing this. You get the idea; Wild Fang is retarded, ask me if you want to know anything specific. Last point I'm going to make is pic related: It's literally written as Che here. I don't know, fuck it, whatever.

Owen Gray
Owen Gray

Weird note: anybody else notice that he looks exactly like Kaku does on that one page in the bottom right? I think Itagaki's only used that positioning twice, and it's just been this instance and the one with Kaku.

Jose Brown
Jose Brown

wew

Samuel Martin
Samuel Martin

fuck you

James Cox
James Cox

Yujiro did get struck by lightning and walked away like its nothing lol

Nathan Rodriguez
Nathan Rodriguez

Wild Fang has utterly ruined everything in regards to fan speculation and discussion because of their 'vision' for the series fucks with the translation and obscures the facts in favor of what they think sounds cool while running a racket on this trash scans. Even so their bad translations are desired to fill in the blanks in the series.*

It's a bad situation so wew

Jackson Green
Jackson Green

really? they had that translation comparison and it shows they are the superior translators

i really don't know seriously i just read stuff

Ian Bailey
Ian Bailey

So kill Reichan for the good of all of us
If not you, then is anyone else in this thread is good to do it? Any human BRs?

Parker Ross
Parker Ross

how much do you guys want kenjin
raise your hands to answer pls

Grayson Jenkins
Grayson Jenkins

Boring unrealistic shit, it isn't like anyone on Sup Forums can train strong enough like Ogre to beat up US President.

Leo Hall
Leo Hall

unrealistic
lol
you know that /a/'s bait standards have fucking plummeted when that's used as a 'criticism'
sage cus lolnocontribution

Logan Bell
Logan Bell

http://www.yuncomics.com/archives
This doesnt work.

Xavier Walker
Xavier Walker

http://www.yuncomics.com/archives/1687227
?
If that link doesn't work because your comp is fucked or something, use this one:
http://zangsisi.net/?p=105344

30 IPs in a Baki thread. What a sight to behold. Only wish we had more along the lines of ~60+.

Grayson Gomez
Grayson Gomez

What a fuckign shitty scans, they are way too dark, and I know the chapter is set up at night.

Lucas Nguyen
Lucas Nguyen

Well no shit, it's the Koreans leveling raws that they stole from the store before the actual chapter even went on sale. They do this all the time. There's one horrible page in particular that the Chinese did that I post in scanlation threads sometimes for a giggle, pic related.

Just wait for the actual raw release in 2 days (or a day and a half) and I'll level it for you if you care for some reason about the mag raws.

John Turner
John Turner

think
itagaki
kek

Tyler Campbell
Tyler Campbell

I always like seeing the original work.

Also, thank you again for chapter 257.

Daniel Gutierrez
Daniel Gutierrez

Artist need to learn how to draw human beings, not just bipedal muscles with faces

Isaac Gomez
Isaac Gomez

any time, anywhere, any chapter
unless it's this chapter, in which case I'll go hide in my box fort and make OniRyu do everything

Nicholas Rogers
Nicholas Rogers

I'll kill this useless faggot sending him against musashi so I can create a distraction

Memetobe would rank up A LOT if he did something as bold as that.

Asher Taylor
Asher Taylor

why didn't baki break his muscles/skin when his punches break the sound barrier but Katsumi's do?

Blake Sanchez
Blake Sanchez

why didn't baki break his muscles/skin when his punches break the sound barrier
They don't
Katsumi was the only character in the series fucking stupid enough to think he needed that speed. Speed isn't necessarily power; which is why his punch did fuck-all to Pickle.

Connor Hernandez
Connor Hernandez

Is that short story of tanba as a 14 year old kid? with him faking bottle cutting and all that?

Julian Jackson
Julian Jackson

if we ask and donate enough, would you guys redo all the shitty wildfang scans? I know it's quite a lot but I think it may be worth it.

William Ramirez
William Ramirez

kenjin?

Mason Thomas
Mason Thomas

i haven't read this manhwo in my life this is a superpower?

Carson Powell
Carson Powell

it's the best superpower: Imagination!

Isaac Jackson
Isaac Jackson

There are hypothetical plans for such a thing, and it wouldn't require donations. Just a lot of time and effort. Before any of that might happen though, we *have to* complete Grappler Baki. Series isn't a real series without it done.

The Doppo Gaiden.

Mason Gutierrez
Mason Gutierrez

I prefer to have full baki, but I'm glad to hear about those plans.

Thank got sjump_forum disappeared, the poor guy put a lot of effort but...

The Doppo Gaiden.
*Raises hand*

Jason Perez
Jason Perez

The Doppo Gaiden.
YES

I don't know mate, very little information is available in English...

Connor Bailey
Connor Bailey

no, that's garouden boy

Joshua James
Joshua James

there was a garouden "gaiden" or prequel with tanba as a teenager, it was scanlated though.

Here I found it, was called Garouden Boy, and of curse it's a shitty WFP scanlation.

Alexander Taylor
Alexander Taylor

Yeah the translation ruined it for me.

Jonathan Lee
Jonathan Lee

it was also on the worst of Itagaki's art.

Charles Diaz
Charles Diaz

Itagaki may not be a nationalist, but...

Charles Cooper
Charles Cooper

Anyone else is upset no one gave a fuck that Retsu died barring Gouki for two pages?

Owen Garcia
Owen Garcia

no one gave a fuck that Retsu died

Have we read the same manga?

Samuel Morris
Samuel Morris

Bumpo

Michael Hill
Michael Hill

let's talk about something

Brayden Myers
Brayden Myers

Honestly I don't even see that much "real" martial arts from Itagaki's work. It's just too flashy and comedic in a way.

Anthony Johnson
Anthony Johnson

The Doppo Gaiden.
+1

Blake Perry
Blake Perry

I've been training martial arts for 14 years now, and
flashy
comedic

are rally the way to describe Itagaki's fights, BUT, almost all the techniques and choreographies are real even if exaggerated. I really like it because even if it's flashy, it has a real basis but reminding you it's fantasy.

Not like Minoru, that pretends to be "realistic" and then you have a guy withstanding 3 direct spinning elbows to the head.

Aaron Collins
Aaron Collins

people have been decrying moral decay and predicting the fall of civilization since the dawn of history senpai

Carter Hill
Carter Hill

Man with all the people annoyed by Musaashi and Memetobe I wonder what it was like when Ali Jr. was first steamrolling the likes of Doppo and Shibukawa.

Gavin Gomez
Gavin Gomez

Which martial arts have you studied?

Leo Myers
Leo Myers

Started with Kendo (for about 4 years), and there I started training Aikido simultaneously, then after shit went down on that gym the teacher tried to rape a 15 year old student on the changing room I moved to train Taekwondo then Hapkido and Karate, and now I'm doing MMA, Krav Maga and still going with Taekwondo.

Chase Parker
Chase Parker

people have been decrying moral decay and predicting the fall of civilization since the dawn of history senpai

Most civilizations since the dawn of history have decayed and fallen.

Jeremiah Jenkins
Jeremiah Jenkins

Okay so I definitely wouldn't want to slap your girlfriend's ass in the club.

Have you been in any competitions?

Jaxon Morgan
Jaxon Morgan

I've been asked to join some competitions, specially for MMA lately as I'm quite fast for my build (I'm 1.85m and 92kg), but I've never been interested in the sports part of martial arts, for me it's an inner thing, I compete with myself first and foremost.

But I spar almost every training season with lots of dudes, but I have a problem, I'm too big for anyone on my gym or nearby gyms, everyone else is always 70kg or less, with some guys nearing 80kg with my stature, and don't let manga fool you, a 10kg difference is abysmal in a real world match.

Jason James
Jason James

I used to get bullied by kids much older and heavier than I. I know what you mean. I had to make it up with speed though.
Although this particular point makes me think about how humans survived against other humans and creatures bigger or heavier than them.

Our bodies are quite fragile and inefficient right?

Luis Smith
Luis Smith

Our bodies are quite fragile and inefficient right?

that's because we are smart, we can create tactics and use weak points to overcome the physical limitations, and the same goes with fighting. This is why technique and form are important, but without a minimal physical performance to carry it out it won't hold.

I'd say that, in my experience, brute strength trumps technique if that technique does not come with force too, but the combination of having rte strength and technique stays above always, and in equal conditions for both fighters (equal strength and technique), what makes the difference is cunning.

Also I want to clarify, a person with bigger muscles is not "slower" than someone with a slimmer build, in fact the top speed for someone with bigger muscles is much higher, the problem is that the acceleration is slower because of the greater mass to move, but once the muscles are warm and on the right "gear" a person with bigger back, torso and arms will throw about 1/3 more punches per minute than a person of the same stature and less muscle mass, also having way more stamina considering they spend more energy.

Julian Cooper
Julian Cooper

, also having way more stamina considering they spend more energy.
You mean less stamina?

I've wanted to learn martial arts and get stronk so I could fight with viking like guys. But it sucks to know that height and mass matter to such a large extent. Even though I'm six feet I get sad.

Ryan Jenkins
Ryan Jenkins

No I said it right, a guy with more muscles can throw faster punches and for a longer time than a guy with less muscles, they they have both trained well.

6 feet it's like 1.80m right? You can build up to 85-87kg of muscle though martial arts and low-weight training and have great stamina, speed and strength. The important thing is to build the muscle though lots and lots of repetitions instead of lifting, because that way you rain both the techniques and your body at the same time, and create the reflex to react without thinking.

And no matter what the morns in /fit/ say, running is a MUST for any good martial artist, in that regard, even if exaggerated, baki and ippo's trainings got somehow the right of it.

Also if you want to start training martial arts, it doesn't matter which discipline you get into, the important thing is that the teacher is good.

Elijah Martinez
Elijah Martinez

I have to sleep soon as much as I'd hoped to continue the conversation. Maybe you'll be here later to answer my questions?

For now though, how to be like batman?

Camden Gonzalez
Camden Gonzalez

build the muscle though lots and lots of repetitions instead of lifting,

Not that user,but does body weight training help?I don't want to start bulking but i'd rather be lean.Started doing push-ups,pull-ups , and lots of reps with the kettle bells to the point that i have reached couple thousand reps of each a day for the past months.

Currently at 1.82m and 85 kg but still look a bit flabby,any suggestions?

Jose Lee
Jose Lee

I'm currently unemployed and with a lesion, so I'm here all day every day lurking for baki threads or creating them if I'm bored (until my lesion heals or I get called for a job) so, yeah, I guess I'll be here.

Jacob Jenkins
Jacob Jenkins

keep at it, body weight training is good, and even some lifting if it's not too much weight, I mean for that kind of build it's better to do 50 curl reps with 2kg than do 3 with 30kg.

Also you can do something alike what cross fitters do, and that is manage the resting times, do series of reps with less and less resting time between them.

Another great thing and a training I like a lot is with elastic ropes, tie them to a wall or a gym bar and then to your waist, arms and legs, even to your head if you want to do neck training and do normal exercises or techniques with the opposition from the elastic band.

In addition you can do the typical boxers training, go for a run, about 20-30 min then stop and to body weight training on the spot, then run some more, some more body weight training and end it up with some 1-2 min sprints at full speed, then walk a while to relax your cardiac rhythm and then stretch. Always stretch before and after doing serious training, stretching is the key for a lean and fast body.

Robert Cox
Robert Cox

this answer also applies to this

For now though, how to be like batman?

Jordan Wood
Jordan Wood

do 50 curl reps with 2kg
I usually do series of 25 reps with 8kg kettlebells,alternating between each hand and then taking a short 1 min-30 sec break between each series of 100 and usually keep it up for 30 to 45 minutes.

do series of reps with less and less resting time between them.
I have also started this at first i would need to take a 10 minute break between eachof series of 100 pushups but now that my body has gained more stamina i usually only need a one minute break to get my breath back.

Another great thing and a training I like a lot is with elastic ropes, tie them to a wall or a gym bar and then to your waist, arms and legs, even to your head if you want to do neck training and do normal exercises or techniques with the opposition from the elastic band.

This actually sounds pretty good, i will probably go and buy an elastic rope and try it,i will also try to mix it up with more running too,thanks user.

Guess i'm on the good track and need to keep it up for a bit longer,i probably expected too much for only doing it a single year.

Brandon Rivera
Brandon Rivera

Also forgot to mention that i'm also on a carb and sugar free diet mainly gettin my proteins from beef or fish and usually eating lots of veggies or fruit between meals so the diet is not to blame,altho i lost around 15 kg since doing this so it might just be excess skin.

Kayden Ward
Kayden Ward

I wonder how President Trump will interact within Baki-verse

Lincoln Rivera
Lincoln Rivera

it takes time, also to expand more on the management of resting imes.

The idea is to try to go a little above your current limits. so now your limit is 100 push ups non stop right? Then you can try this:

-25 pushups as fast as you can
-1 min rest
-40 pushups at normal rate
-1 min rest
25 push ups as fast as you can
-45 seconds rest
-30 pushups at normal rate
-30 secs of rest
15 push ups as fast as you can

rest until you catch your breath and repeat, add series always adding some extra series with les reps but shorter rest times when approaching the end of the exercise.

Instead o reps you can also set up times like 1 min doing pushups 1.5 min rest, 2 min doing pushups 1 min rest etc.

And yeah, the elastic band training is really great, when you end it after doing a series of kata or some series of forms you feel really really light.

Jace Price
Jace Price

On the diet front I have made adjustments over the years but I haven't changed it too much, the only rules I have are:

Strong breakfast: For breakfast I have sunflower seeds bread loafs with triturated tomato, a little of salt, olive oil and some kind of cold meat.

Eat variety: I eat vegetables, potatoes, pasta, legumes, meat, chicken, fish, etc, whatever I like, but I always try to eat something different each day.

For lunch I don't take seconds, I eat what's on my plate, so I make sure I always serve myself enough, but no seconds.

Never eat between eating hours, but do 5 meals a day, with the strong ones being the lunch and breakfast.

And for last, I don't eat cabs after 6 pm, as I'm not going to burn that energy on the day, so I have light dinners of fruit, salads, etc.

Been doing this even since long before I started training so it's not related to it, but I think it's a great complement.

Owen Gomez
Owen Gomez

Yeah the list you gave me actually seems that it could increase my stamina i will actually try that today.For how long you suggest this workout to be since in a workout i usually do 10 series of 100 non stop push-ups with a 1 min break between them?

Jackson Harris
Jackson Harris

i feel like throwing up looking at this manga, lol

Liam Gutierrez
Liam Gutierrez

do it until you can't catch your breath and your arms hurt, then do it once more.

But don't focus too much on a single kind of exercise or yo'll kill the muscle fibers with over stress, look for other arm exercises and mix it up, with pullsups, curls, static exercises, and so on.

A great exercise for your forearms is to hold your arms straight and open and close your fist really fast, and change the position of your arms every 10-15 (cross shape, over your head, full straight) reps, and keep at it until you can barely open and close your fingers.

Oliver Edwards
Oliver Edwards

Yeah i usually do mix it up with curls and pull-ups,haven tried closing my fist but it seems like a pretty fun and damn,ignoring the random shitposters Baki threads are usually the comfiest on Sup Forums.

Brody Mitchell
Brody Mitchell

How did jack got those scars in the face.

Aiden Campbell
Aiden Campbell

Pickle

Charles Baker
Charles Baker

I'm more curious about he grew his skin back.

Mason Carter
Mason Carter

Implants probably.

Benjamin King
Benjamin King

If I'm not mistaken Pickle tore off just his skin. It's more surprising he's still healthy despite the heavy drug use. How many years has he been taking them?

Jacob Collins
Jacob Collins

he got a passionate kiss

Luke Hughes
Luke Hughes

Has it even passed more than a year in-manga time ever since the tournament finished if i recall correctly it was mentioned that Baki was still 19 when fighting Yujiro.

Dylan Reed
Dylan Reed

I think you're right. If Jack is ever dying I expect hearth failure or something.

Jonathan Ortiz
Jonathan Ortiz

one year passed from the fight of baki and yujiro and dou so from the start of the manga I think only about 2.5 or maybe 3 years have passed.

Chase Martin
Chase Martin

He got chewed on!!!

Ethan Nguyen
Ethan Nguyen

fucking shit scanlations man

Jaxson Peterson
Jaxson Peterson

according to (real world) physics, speed IS power

I'm sure the top tiers are faster than that, they can just tank the forces involved unlike Katsumi

Christopher Scott
Christopher Scott

tall
unhealthy usage of stimulants and steroids
overtraining

good thing that he never expected to live a long and healthy life

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