Hey maybe it'll be a video game anime that doesn't suck

Connor James
Connor James

Hey maybe it'll be a video game anime that doesn't suck

http://gematsu.com/2016/05/tales-zestiria-x-anime-premieres-july-3

All urls found in this thread:
http://gematsu.com/2016/05/tales-zestiria-x-anime-premieres-july-3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPkhYGypzf8
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5767054
https://archiveofourown.org/works/5802364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0Pa2eQmTNA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8tAylYdgGQ
https://youtu.be/ypvA49ewL28
http://plaines.moo.jp/mt/2016/05/post-80.php
Josiah Williams
Josiah Williams

It'll be shit, and we already had rage of the Bahamut anyways

Grayson Ortiz
Grayson Ortiz

Regardless, I'll be watching it for Edna.

Hunter Evans
Hunter Evans

I dunno, God Eater was pretty shitty.

Jayden Young
Jayden Young

The story of Zestiria isn't anything to write home about, which is bad since Tales anime are only as good as their source material.

Jaxson Cox
Jaxson Cox

Hopefully in the anime she won't be in the party just because of a sidequest that ends abruptly.

Hudson White
Hudson White

the key behind a video game anime that doesnt suck, is by coming up with a new plot in that same universe like

Lucas Bailey
Lucas Bailey

bahamut is crap though

Landon Hughes
Landon Hughes

It will be shit just like Zestiria was.

I hope it's not all fujoshit.

Luke Perez
Luke Perez

It's going to be fujoshit

Parker Ortiz
Parker Ortiz

maybe
1-cour
Uh huh

Brody Martinez
Brody Martinez

Bahamut was an amazing ride, and it was great just for the fact that it didnt become another TCG anime.

Jonathan Diaz
Jonathan Diaz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPkhYGypzf8
Laila's new voice

Hunter Adams
Hunter Adams

a boy is the heroine
Pretty sure this one is actually up front about it.
Not bad.

Ryder Clark
Ryder Clark

Zestiria is awful so unless they rewrite it the anime will be awful too.

Especially Rose.

Brandon Brown
Brandon Brown

The story was fine though. The problems were technical in nature.

Dominic Walker
Dominic Walker

This will be the gayest anime of the year. And you will all love it, faggots.

Connor Ross
Connor Ross

Zestiria's story isn't that great to begin with. Fucking Rose will probably eat up all the screen time.

Lincoln Watson
Lincoln Watson

Atelier way ok.

Benjamin Morales
Benjamin Morales

I hope Gust does more Atelier anime in the future

Blake Ross
Blake Ross

ufotable

yea it will be shit

Bentley Wright
Bentley Wright

The game fucking sucks, don't see how the anime is gonna be much better.

Nolan Wright
Nolan Wright

A good one.

Jaxon Cruz
Jaxon Cruz

No the story of Zestiria is very cliche and paint by the numbers.

They're going to have to make some changes to the story to make it mesh better. Strictly speaking from a storyline perspective Rose isn't a good character.

Caleb Scott
Caleb Scott

It's perfectly fine by the standards of the series, and don't pretend otherwise.
bringing up Rose again
Try to hide your Alishacancer better next time.

Carter Nelson
Carter Nelson

Watching this and Taboo Tattoo for Mikakoshi and TsudaKen.

Christian Foster
Christian Foster

Which isn't all that great to begin with, seriously it's a low bar. Thing is Tales games have their gameplay to make up for shit stories. However when it's in animated form there isn't any gameplay to make up for the shit story.

Not an Alishafag and I don't care about Rose either. But strictly speaking from a storytelling perspective Rose is not a good character, the game got away with it due to gameplay, but that won't be present here. It'll be much too obvious that they're dogging on one character to make another look good and it won't have the gameplay to back up its flimsy reasoning.

Jack Morris
Jack Morris

Would be great if the trials part of the story is wrapped up in 6 episodes and then bam the anime starts following the bad end. At least then there would be a chance to salvage more of the mid/late game wrap-ups (Dezel, Lunarre, Symonne, Eizen). Or maybe have Sorey fall into malevolence like what was constantly hinted at from the beginning of the game and what the villains futilely spent the entire last arc trying to do.

Sebastian Allen
Sebastian Allen

Mobile garbage isn't video games.

Ayden Gray
Ayden Gray

Says you.

Luis White
Luis White

The Tales of Abyss anime didn't suck. Though in the case of Zestiria the story is so weak that the only way to make it good would be to let go of most of the story.

Gabriel Phillips
Gabriel Phillips

Mikleo dons an frilly apron and cooks and cleans for Sorey like the waifu he is.

Jonathan Lopez
Jonathan Lopez

God Eater was pretty good desuwa.

Landon Hernandez
Landon Hernandez

That's just your shit taste. God Eater was predictable and boring.

Brayden Williams
Brayden Williams

The game itself sucks so you're fucked. Plus the OVA was lame as hell.

Jordan Cox
Jordan Cox

Hey maybe it'll be a video game anime that doesn't suck

Game is worse than Xillia 1

Expecting anime to improve on anything

For the record Persona 4's anime was okay.

Christopher Bell
Christopher Bell

any tales anime
not sucking ass
The only one that might make a halfway decent anime is Vesperia, and that's because it's just about the only one with a main cast that isn't full of insufferable faggots.

Andrew Harris
Andrew Harris

GE anime
pretty good

Owen Wilson
Owen Wilson

Persona 4's anime was okay

Cameron Cook
Cameron Cook

The action was good and the music was godlike, what more did you want?

Anyway. My expectations for this are pretty low due to the source material, but I'm confident that the director will make some needed changes.

Elijah Phillips
Elijah Phillips

Quiet boy

Landon Mitchell
Landon Mitchell

Substance like story, characters, and decent direction all of which were shit, in GE.

Josiah Gonzalez
Josiah Gonzalez

Vesperias story is trash and the cast exists to fellate Yuri except Rita who is just shit.

Tyler Wood
Tyler Wood

Play the game on steam.
bored within 5 minutes.
Might watch it for Mikleo.

Luis Taylor
Luis Taylor

I'm playing the game and I have to say that Aleshia > Rose by far

Easton Adams
Easton Adams

With your short attention span, you'd better give up on anime.

Joshua Fisher
Joshua Fisher

Mikleo is pretty much the heroine of the tale, having all the scenes and doing most of the things a stereotypical childhood friend love interest would do.

Austin Miller
Austin Miller

Oh that's right. Her VA died ;_;

Cooper Foster
Cooper Foster

Tell me how persona 4's original anime was bad besides it looking visually meh.

It was faithful as well as even adding more depth to Yu's character and giving him his own shadow.

Ryan Wilson
Ryan Wilson

It's not like the gane gets any better so he never missed out much.

Gosh fuck that camera set up in this game.

Brody Baker
Brody Baker

Vesperia's story isn't very good and most of its characters are shit. The only reason the movie was decent was because they weren't there.

Henry Allen
Henry Allen

When are anime stories ever anything to right home about? Ufo is doing it and if the OVA if anything to go buy, it will look pretty as fuck. That's why anyone will watch. Well that and the fujoshit pandering/Edna.

Aaron Adams
Aaron Adams

being this much of a faggot
Graces and Xillia would like a word with you.
Destiny, Abyss, and Symphonia already have anime.

Jayden Watson
Jayden Watson

Alisha is a worthless peace princess. I'm glad the story kicked her out early in the game.

If you're complaining Alisha could've been written better, then Rose too.
Alisha can stay as side character for all I care, she wasn't interesting to begin with.

Adam Gomez
Adam Gomez

Fuck you. Alisha was a good girl.

Matthew Miller
Matthew Miller

Agree, Vesperia would've been 10x better if it was Estelle, Rita, and Karol chasing Judith/Phaeroh around the world while Flynn, Yuri, and Repede as knights constantly intercepted her to whine about why she should go home.

Landon Cox
Landon Cox

I think people are more mad about
muh false advertising
Than her being an acceptable character in any way. At least berseria won't have any shitty princesses.

Easton Powell
Easton Powell

Why was none of the party bothered by the fact that Rose was a sociopathic murdering assassin?

Jaxon Brooks
Jaxon Brooks

So you've never seen any decent anime before? I feel sorry for you. GE had okay animation and yet people didn't care about it, why, because it's sorry and characters were forgettable.

William Brooks
William Brooks

not Sengoku Basara

James Morris
James Morris

She's off being a hero in Byston Well now.

;_;

Oliver Cooper
Oliver Cooper

The party in Xillia 2 is just like meh whatever nigga to killing trillions of people

Nolan Hall
Nolan Hall

GE had okay animation and yet people didn't care about it, why, because it's sorry and characters were forgettable.

I can tell you weren't around when it was airing. No one gave a shit about it because the artstyle was ass. There were TONS of complaints about what ufo did with it. That and the constant delays where multiple episodes didn't even air during the season. It was a total mess. You can't talk about a show when it doesn't have episodes.

Robert Williams
Robert Williams

I was around and people generally didn't give a shit about it, in fact there were a lot of people who thought that it was just bad. Many of which who blamed the main character for being a bland self insert character. It had threads yeah but did Concrete Revolutio

Justin Cooper
Justin Cooper

Because none of the party actually gives a shit about humans. The game goes to great lengths to emphasize that all the evil in the world comes from humans and malevolence will never be completely eradicated because of them. The fact that Rose can cull the herd without getting corrupted is a godsend for them.

Isaiah Ramirez
Isaiah Ramirez

Both Rose and Alisha are terrible characters from a writing perspective, that could have been written better.

Alisha could have been the Zestiria version of Ion, they didn't need to dog on her so much, and with Rose her problem is that she just seems as though the story puts on a pedestal, to the point that I actually preferred both her and Alisha in the DLC, because Rose was just actually a regular character in that one.

Though overall the story would have been better served having Mikleo as female.

Hunter White
Hunter White

Which actually just makes Rose a goddamn Mary Sue. By making Rose a special little snowflake they ensured that she'd be shit.

Noah Hill
Noah Hill

Rose is unmannerly, dumb and average looking and also gets made fun of by the party. Sorey has the same ability as her so she isn't special either.

Luis Evans
Luis Evans

Sorey was raised by Seraphs to eventually become a Shepard and has no understanding of human society, so of course he's capable of it that was he was raised to do. Sorey has a reason for being the way he is, but Rose does not.

Which is why it would have been better served if the story didn't make them unique in that regard and your party actually learned to give a shit about humans.

Liam Morales
Liam Morales

If this brings me more Edna porn I start to fanboi now!

Matthew Hernandez
Matthew Hernandez

Bad game will get an anime that will also be bad

Big whoop

Matthew Morales
Matthew Morales

Substance like story, characters
It's a video game adaptation. A Monster Hunter video game adaptation. If you were expecting any story or characters of substance the fault lies with you, really.

And the direction had its moments. Episode 10, for example, was beautiful.

Evan Carter
Evan Carter

It's a video game adaptation. A Monster Hunter video game adaptation.
So what? Rage of Bahamut Genesis was a anime adaptation of a fucking card game and yet still managed to make a pretty damn decent anime adaptation with likable characters and an okay story.

God Eater was just shit.

David Ward
David Ward

Yeah, the skit where the entire party shits on Rose for burping was pretty funny.

Rose does have a reason, Dezel has been possessing her since she was a child. Her resonance was still terrible until Sorey made her a Squire, but the ability to be a vessel was cultivated in her for a long time.

That being said, Alisha had a lot more in common with Sorey w/r/t ideals and interest in history/ruins, but their backgrounds were different enough for potential to get into the same kind of moral quandaries Sorey had with Rose. It's a shame Alisha got screwed so badly.

Ryan Brooks
Ryan Brooks

I like the story in God Eater. But for some reason ufotable just had to fuck it up.

Zachary Cox
Zachary Cox

Which wouldn't have been a bad thing, one of the most mind numbingly stupid things about your party is their view on humans and their insistence on not getting involved. I mean having not one but two characters who challenge the parties beliefs and have them grow from it would have worked well, especially with the reveal of Sorey and Mikleo's past.

Aiden Perez
Aiden Perez

This will be the gayest anime
So the blue-haired is not a tomboy but a guy?

Robert Wright
Robert Wright

She felt like the butt monkey to me.

Seraphim probably have a valid reason for not caring about humans, depending on their backstory in berseria.

Connor Cruz
Connor Cruz

And yet a prince was gonna marry her. And yet she is a fucking assassin who doesn't fall into muhlevolance because she's that cools. And yet Mikleo begs her to join Sorey 5' after she almost got them all killed. And yet the only people/sidequest in this game that doesn't end in fucking death is the sparrowfeathers because she's in charge. But she's obviously not a mary sue because there is one skit and like two scenes where someone made fun of her. I mean come on now, people have been through this many times already

Nicholas Richardson
Nicholas Richardson

Your opinions are shit and you should feel like shit.
Graces and Xillia were trash and like I said, the existing Tales anime sucked ass. Thanks for helping prove my point, faggot.

Gavin Ortiz
Gavin Ortiz

muh
cools
people have been through this many times already
gtfo tumblrfag

Alexander Sullivan
Alexander Sullivan

Despite his looks, Mikleo is a boy. To be fair though even novel Sorey laments about Mikleo's attractiveness.

Kevin Wright
Kevin Wright

None of those things make a character a sue and you are deliberately skewing it without proper context due to your hate boner. Let's just ignore the fact that Mikleo has insecurities about Sorey being surrounded by invisible people and not having any humans around. It's fine to hate a character but you don't need to assign buzzwords that don't suit them for your agenda.

Caleb Flores
Caleb Flores

You're biased and ignorant, user. Not even that other guy, but Shingeki Bahamut was shit, from a literary perspective, rushed and just as guilty of false advertisement as Zestiria.

Logan Jackson
Logan Jackson

Mikleo wanted Alisha or Rose around Sorey because of his own insecurities not because of Rose specifically.

Ian Edwards
Ian Edwards

guilty of false advertisement
What do you mean? I didn't follow bahamut promotion.

Anthony Baker
Anthony Baker

Then you're taste is just as shit as other user.Shingeki was just fine for what it was, and there wasn't any false advertisement as far as I know. It never pretended something that it wasn't, which was a high fantasy adventure.

Jack James
Jack James

Yes.

Luke Gomez
Luke Gomez

There was no "epic final battle", a ton of plot threads got dropped because they ran out of episodes. It frequently suffered from poor in between work and around half of the episodes were a fucking bore. It did not live up to the hype of ep 1, not even to ep 2.

Bentley Wright
Bentley Wright

I'm not gonna waste my time on a troglodyte who types like this.

Blake Bell
Blake Bell

Yeah, Zestiria implies and Berseria confirms that seraphim get shafted every time they have anything to do with humans. Very interested in what direction Berseria will take the shugen/shinto elements that made up Zestiria's morality/purity system.

Luke Morales
Luke Morales

What scarred the nips the most was that they all accidently played a bl game.

Ayden Phillips
Ayden Phillips

Is Berseria in any way related to Zestiria?

Aiden Allen
Aiden Allen

Obviously.

Luis Cox
Luis Cox

If you haven't started granblue yet since it got an english option, you should. Tales events are coming back in June. You can get Yuri and maybe Milla.
Also expecting Sorey and Mikleo since they are mcs of Asteria's current story.

Adrian Rodriguez
Adrian Rodriguez

So in other words you have no argument.

There wasn't though? Seriously if you didn't see the ending coming despite the series going out of it's way to explain time and time again that no one, not the humans, not the demons, and certainly not the gods wanted Bahamut to come back, and that the best thing that they could do was seal him away. Seriously if you thought that something else was going to happen then you weren't paying attention.

Mason Morris
Mason Morris

Berseria is set either hundreds or thousands of years apart.

Liam Morris
Liam Morris

Berseria is a "prequel" in that it takes somewhere between 500-1200 years before Zestiria. They share continents and the concept of hellions and seraphim, though they're called something else because it's the distant past. Storywise they'll probably have nothing to do with each other. Though you can infer the world turns to shit because that's how Zestiria starts.

Ryan Ramirez
Ryan Ramirez

脚本 ufotable
Is the story going to be anime original?

Zachary Long
Zachary Long

going for the dick every time

Elijah Garcia
Elijah Garcia

Whatever faggot. I'm not going to bother with some schmuck with bad opinions who can't tell the difference between your and you're.

Xavier Ward
Xavier Ward

calls other people a faggot because they have no argument
You do know that this board isn't for the underaged right?

Eli Edwards
Eli Edwards

Either that, or a full 26 episode anime. Tales anime turn out pretty well if they're full lenght seasons. A 10-12 ep adaption will be dead on arrival.

Leo Reed
Leo Reed

Isn't it only 1 cour?

Chase Kelly
Chase Kelly

Basara managed to butcher a fucking fighting game's storyline as well as history.

Tyler Collins
Tyler Collins

RIP Zestiria. At least the battle system was less convoluted than Xillia.

Luke Fisher
Luke Fisher

What does it all say?

Lucas Williams
Lucas Williams

Artorius Colbrande is the antagonist
Holy shit. Is this going to be some cringy as fuck edgefest where we're supposed to sympathize with the bad guys and fight the shepherd?

Sebastian Hughes
Sebastian Hughes

At least the battle system was less convoluted than Xillia

Noah Nelson
Noah Nelson

edgefest
describes half of the main party of Berseria, so yes.

Landon Ward
Landon Ward

Spirit art casting, chaining and so on and so forth.
I played Jude for the most part because Milla was a nightmare to play and she moved too slugishly for me. Story was good though.

Zachary Diaz
Zachary Diaz

Well, as a Tales series goes, this one has the worst story and character. It will be another 'God Eater' of Ufotable.

Josiah Nguyen
Josiah Nguyen

person hates the steaming turd that is Rose
"HE MUST LOVE ALEISHA!!"

When will this meme end?

Jordan Davis
Jordan Davis

Though overall the story would have been better served having Mikleo as female.
Fuck off, the homolust will save this anime.

Evan Ramirez
Evan Ramirez

Traps make the best male and female characters.

Alexander Johnson
Alexander Johnson

And yet a prince was gonna marry her.
For the Prince to gain control of the Sparrowfeather.
If a Prince's going to merry Alishiashit for political reason, she should be called a Merry sue too.
Thank the writers for ignoring the possibilities.

And yet she is a fucking assassin who doesn't fall into muhlevolance because she's that cools.
Pretty sure the elders of Alishia's kingdom that wanted the useless Princess to be removed didn't changed into Hyouma too.
Be thankful that Aliashia didn't fall into this mulevelonce of yours, because I would've thought she would become a Hyouma when things didn't go her way.

And yet Mikleo begs her to join Sorey 5' after she almost got them all killed.
Rose does have the compatibility with the Seraphs. Alisha almost got Sorey killed before she was kicked out from the story because of her weakness not able to be a squire.
Why would you want Alishit to stay?
Was it Alisha's fault, or Rose's, or the writers'?

And yet the only people/sidequest in this game that doesn't end in fucking death is the sparrowfeathers because she's in charge.
At least Dezel died for her. What purpose will be served if the Sparrowfeathers die too?

Alishia is well liked by the people of her country and also the party. Letting her stay and have the same ability like Rose will just make her a Merrier sue.

Like I said here , you don't get to hate one character and pity another one without blaming the whole thing.

I'm glad that I followed TGS Tales event, where Mikakoshi was present, instead of Kayanon. I knew Rose would become important later.

Thankfully, Alishia was a peace princess who was also useless, an archetype that I hate, and it is easier not to care for her.

James Phillips
James Phillips

Before release Alisha is the heroine
Then she leaves for good
The heroine who takes her place eventually dies
The final night before the last battle is spent with a man
Homo finale
players are left behind realizing "so that's the kind of game this is"

Connor Smith
Connor Smith

So Artorius became the first shepherd and Velvet the first Lord of Calamity and Berseria is their story?

Landon Myers
Landon Myers

For real, the only reason Zestiria didn't bomb harder is the massive amount of fujos propping it up by buying keychains/folder inserts/curry plates/cups/doujinshi.

Jaxson Davis
Jaxson Davis

Don't get me wrong I like Mikleo as a male, but he'd be good no matter the gender. I just think that their relationship just should have had more focus. If a heroine really is necessary then they just should have been upfront about it and given the role to Mikleo.

Eli Rogers
Eli Rogers

Thanks.
Sasuga Bandai Namco.

David Robinson
David Robinson

source needed

Dominic Perez
Dominic Perez

Wait a minute. Fucking Eizen is in Berseria? Why is he so old and why is he not a seraph? Also is there a connection to goddamm Xillia in this as well? So Berseria is the origin story to Tales then.

Chase Anderson
Chase Anderson

Despite the drama it still seems pretty popular. Also Mikleo, Sorey and Alisha placed in the top 20 character poll for 2015 games.

Zachary Hughes
Zachary Hughes

When did I pity Alisha? When did I even bring up Alisha at all? Sure she's a boring cliche but at least she's just failing at everything in the background. Rose is obnoxious as fuck and can do wrong. Also if anything you are a hypocrite because you are fine with the shitty way they baited people just because Alisha's not your type. In the end both characters were terribly written just like the entire game's plot and narrative. It had actually been a long time since I saw so much wasted potential.

Ryan Thompson
Ryan Thompson

Bahamut's story was generic fantasy schlock and I much preferred God Eater's animation/direction/OST, so we'll have to disagree there.

The game's story is just as bad, though. Episode 10 actually did something interesting with the setting.

Ethan Adams
Ethan Adams

Berseria is a distant prequel to Zestiria in the same vein as Symphonia being a prequel to Phantasia.

Isaiah Anderson
Isaiah Anderson

you know the whole reason they made the anime is to fix the problems with the game's story right? alisha is going to have a bigger role and they'll be making direct connections with berseria to hype its release.

Adrian Williams
Adrian Williams

He's a 1000 year old bishounen.

Dominic Cook
Dominic Cook

Reminds me of this
My childhood friend was the only one person who has no power as we have.
After I had recognized human is fragile, I had no doubt this is my business to be with him.
First of all, I have the logic of the world.
I’m not beaten at knowledge by him but strength.

I always believed we will never change to keep living with feeling great history in Elysia.
But still,you began to progress because of a longing for the tradition.
You had a kindness and pure heart brought up by the earth so you became the shepherd to devote your life and a sword to the lady of lake along a tradition,in other words,you can not avoid bearing the destiny of purification and the dragon’s emblem.

You were denied. You were avoided. People who should saved by you were afraid of you. Even so,you were smiling with tears and kept standing to be strong as shepherd.

If I could share your sadness with you or disappear your sufferings…actually,If I was the same race as you,I could understand you and stand by you closer.
I could heal your heart to share our soul if I could live in exactly same time.

Austin Reyes
Austin Reyes

Beseria connections likely since it's out soon but there aren't any statements or interviews about any such changes to the story.

Julian King
Julian King

cont.
Water is sensitive than other attributes and spill out easier.
This means there is a possibility to draw malevolence to friends by my little hesitation.
However,water can wash it away clearly and also purify with changing their form flexible.

If pains of each other make us feel a acute grief as if it happened to myself,I’m going to eliminate any your hardships.
Although something make me to be confused or anger or cry to save no person,I must keep your own life being no malevolence by my power of water.

This is my life that had dead once as a human and rebirth as a seraphim.
It’s my duty to make advance with friend and find a significance I was rebirth as a seraphim.
That’s because we had destined to bear the fate over the shepherd from our origin.

There is the light of circlet on my forehead.
I’ll give it a great power as a seraphim who lives close to human.
That is what like a hope Gramp put into a book or a wish Muse offered prayers to the circlet.

We need no more words to pledge.
You already know my true name long time ago.
The voice calling my name always give the power for me to go beyond everything together whatever hardship or grief stand in our way.

Tales 20th anniversary book

Daniel Nelson
Daniel Nelson

tfw when you hope ufotable animates Sorey puking on the battlefield just a little more gratuitously this time

Christian Nelson
Christian Nelson

Also if anything you are a hypocrite because you are fine with the shitty way they baited people just because Alisha's not your type

Alishia should not be anyone's type.
Served them right, I suppose.

Bentley Harris
Bentley Harris

They have Alisha as big as Rose in the poster, they're probably going to rewrite the story so that she doesn't leave. They're just make her stand in the background uselessly while Sorey and Rose Kamui.

Oliver Green
Oliver Green

yeah i agree, i think they are trying to fix the game's problems with this adaptation.

Nathan Torres
Nathan Torres

That could be because Alisha is a lot more popular or they're animating the Alisha DLC

Logan Jackson
Logan Jackson

mobile
What?

John Bailey
John Bailey

She still has a story impact even when she leaves with her generic peace princess war story. It's expected. Plus she also rejoins later on to get trolled. At most I can see them handling her departure and story presence better, like the manga did.

Oliver Myers
Oliver Myers

What's with this hateboner? Did a princess/knight murder your family or something user?

Lincoln Lopez
Lincoln Lopez

Are any of the Tales manga worth reading?

Joseph Barnes
Joseph Barnes

I heard that the novel handles het better too.

Robert Young
Robert Young

The Zestiria ones are nice but I don't think they are being translated any more. I haven't checked any other games' adaptations yet.

Grayson Wood
Grayson Wood

Rosefags they are the same as Alishafags. In their minds implying that Alisha could have been written better and that the character isn't really shit but the way she was utilized is like saying that Rose was pointless.

Daniel Roberts
Daniel Roberts

The Abyss manga are good and they actually expand on the story.

Levi Flores
Levi Flores

Was it googletranslated or something?

Jacob Thomas
Jacob Thomas

More like just a direct translation.

James Sanchez
James Sanchez

Alicia should have done more killing, she was a knight after all.

Elijah Martin
Elijah Martin

The manga/novel do pretty much everything better. Anime likely will, too.

Camden Cox
Camden Cox

I think that's because they're aware of the mistakes made by the game and so are aware of what areas the story can be improved.

Austin Miller
Austin Miller

Boring shit game with a boring shit cast. It's probably only being adapted for the stupid fujoshit pandering.

Benjamin Price
Benjamin Price

some of the cast was the only saving grace of the same.

Ryder Parker
Ryder Parker

not wanting 700 years worth of semen animated
you some kind of faggot user?

Joseph Rodriguez
Joseph Rodriguez

I want Zaveid inside me

Aiden Flores
Aiden Flores

I wonder if Edna realizes just how sexy she is.

Kayden Rodriguez
Kayden Rodriguez

I was just about to post it. And spoiler
>700 years worth of semen
next time.

Leo Nelson
Leo Nelson

laughing_homos.png

Connor Green
Connor Green

fujos
meme police
Truly the worst.

Nicholas Howard
Nicholas Howard

I think that premise actually makes up most of the r18 doujins for Zestiria.

William Green
William Green

fujos
alishafags
rosefags
everything about this game's fans is terrible

Evan Gray
Evan Gray

Damn.

Alexander Ramirez
Alexander Ramirez

Controlling a character you killed in a previous game
I think it's a first.

Adam Stewart
Adam Stewart

The continuation of this pic is even better.

Gabriel Adams
Gabriel Adams

Actually most of it is bland vanilla shit. Out of the 30+ Sorey/Mikleo doujins I got in Otome Road and Akihabara, only 3 of them have that premise and it's executed the same way in that

Sorey comes back
The gang gets back together and throws a party
Mikleo gets drunk and seduces Sorey
Sorey wakes up after and goes to do whatever
Mikleo wakes up and starts freaking the fuck out that Sorey is gone and that it was all a dream
Sorey comes back and comfort ensues
fin

Literally no originality. At that point fanfiction is better.

Jacob Nelson
Jacob Nelson

That's why I said R-18. Of course most of the doujins with Sorey and Mikleo are going to be vanilla, Mikleo would be far too willing for it to be anything but.

Joshua Bennett
Joshua Bennett

most of it is bland vanilla shit
Obviously. Those two are as pure as mikleo's ice-cream after all.
fanfiction is better
So fanfiction is better than illustrated fanfiction?

Thomas Wright
Thomas Wright

They were all R-18. Vanilla means "normal" sex, not no sex at all.

Juan Smith
Juan Smith

Do post it.

Brody Rivera
Brody Rivera

You can easily find it by searching for the souce if the picture.

Sebastian Ramirez
Sebastian Ramirez

Would you mind scanning one of those doujins.

Leo Bailey
Leo Bailey

scan them

Caleb Barnes
Caleb Barnes

Having to pay for illustrated fanfiction that you can't view before buying, waiting on translators, etc
Better than reading text fanfiction for free in your native language

Luke Reyes
Luke Reyes

I was talking about ones on Otaku Republic but most of them are sold out.

Christopher Cook
Christopher Cook

There's only really one person who writes decent SoreyxMikleo smut.

Andrew Wilson
Andrew Wilson

What are the main differences?

Brody Watson
Brody Watson

go away, Nachtwandler

Ethan Brown
Ethan Brown

Now I regret it.

Gavin Baker
Gavin Baker

Any recs? I've read literally every entry on ao3 and can't think of any being particularly outstanding except for the one where they masturbate while armatized.

Jordan Ross
Jordan Ross

http://archiveofourown.org/works/5767054

This one is okay.

Aiden Howard
Aiden Howard

Why is he so old and why is he not a seraph?
Because he's a seirei.

Easton Ross
Easton Ross

Fuck off, the homolust will save this anime.

so desperate, huh /y/

Colton Richardson
Colton Richardson

I don't know what it is I hate about Rose so much, but just about any time she starts talking I wish she would shut up. All the other girls are fine, even great (Alisha and Edna had some of the best interactions in the whole game), but Rose just makes me want to drop the game at some points. I can't believe I'm saying this but thank god Sorey is a sexless blob of chastity- otherwise we might have had some very tortured romance scenes.

Connor Cruz
Connor Cruz

It's been a while but
Zaveid introduction makes a lot more sense and the difference in values between him and Sorey are shown better
Alisha actually goes up the mountain to meet Edna with them instead of being useless by the river
Mikleo's complex about not being useful to Sorey is developed more
Mikleo and Edna mansion adventure to gather info while Sorey and Alisha have development tending to people
Alisha's issues and the consequences Sorey suffers from making her a squire are done better. imo so her departure flows better
Mikleo feels like a true heroine

Dylan Young
Dylan Young

tfw they might animate Mikleo slugging Sorey

Brandon Price
Brandon Price

Edna is best cum dumo.

Nolan Perez
Nolan Perez

I wish the artist didn't delete that one. I never got to save all the versions.

Adrian Price
Adrian Price

>the one where they masturbate while armatized.
I'm a faggot for this, but link?

Cooper Perez
Cooper Perez

Will Tales of Bersaria rights the wrong of everything that has happened in Zesteria?

I don't even know why this anime exist? Are they trying to salvage this particular title? It can't just be to piggyback in advertising Berseria as well

Andrew Edwards
Andrew Edwards

Are they trying to salvage this particular title? It can't just be to piggyback in advertising Berseria as well
both

Daniel Anderson
Daniel Anderson

Best box is
The other heroines are all empty air

Nathan Cruz
Nathan Cruz

https://archiveofourown.org/works/5802364

Nolan Kelly
Nolan Kelly

Nah, it'll probably suck. But at least I'll get to see some delicious Edna.

Ayden Carter
Ayden Carter

His and Rose's eyes are so far apart in all the official art, are they retarded?

Camden Carter
Camden Carter

The game and the story were both bad, some of the characters are good though.

Myabe it'll be a bit better than the game at least.

What went right with Sorey and Mikleo? top tier homolust

Sebastian Russell
Sebastian Russell

Homolust from straight franchises is always the best, didn't you know.

Brayden Williams
Brayden Williams

Whew, thanks.

Samuel Perry
Samuel Perry

Best box is
The other heroines are all empty air

The anime will fix that

Austin Clark
Austin Clark

Tales of Bersaria

One thing for sure, we're not getting homolust among the main character instead have some lesbolust with Velvet and that knight chick

Julian Martin
Julian Martin

Don't forget the /ss/ and /sm/

Andrew Stewart
Andrew Stewart

it's going to be shit

Grayson Smith
Grayson Smith

There won't be yuri. Velvet will be straight or /ss/. There will likely be fujobait with Eizen and Samurai or the twink knight boy, because pretty male knights are loved by fujos.

Samuel Ward
Samuel Ward

you know the whole reason they made the anime is to fix the problems with the game's story right?

[citation needed]

Noah Thompson
Noah Thompson

no yuri between Velvet and femSorey
;_;

Lincoln Barnes
Lincoln Barnes

I bet you didn't even try looking up his ass.

Evan Wood
Evan Wood

That's fine, the game has a cute as fuck shota that is expressly made for hair-ruffling and head patting. All else is secondary.

Samuel Hernandez
Samuel Hernandez

Sorey and Mikleo are just top tier. Mikleo's devotion to Sorey heart warming and and to see them behave essentially as though they're married is nice to see.

Christopher Ramirez
Christopher Ramirez

I like Sorey/Mikleo as much as the next fujo but IMO their relationship is a little creepy because Mikleo was intended from birth to be Sorey's spiritual, emotional, and physical support, right down to his true name. Early-game Sorey probably hit the nail on the head that extinguishing hellions is not Mikleo's dream, but it's not like Mikleo would ever deny him because subconsciously his entire reason for existing is to carry out Sorey's will.

Cameron Green
Cameron Green

That's a bit extreme, don't you think? Mikleo was raised to be Sorey's companion, sure, but that was also due to the fact that they were the only kids in Elysia. It could also be argued that Sorey was raised to be Mikleo's friend because of that. Realistically they were raised together and naturally found companionship in each other.

The fact that their relationship seems "more" than friendship is probably due to Mikleo being a female archetype in a male body. The game itself walked the fine line of "lifelong bros" versus "romantic partners" very well, that one Zaveid/Sorey/Mikleo skit notwithstanding.

Mason Sanchez
Mason Sanchez

Make a bro tier partner instead of generic harem crap
fujos ruin it all with their gay shit

Isaiah Moore
Isaiah Moore

implying Bandai didn't have fujoshi in mind while they were making the game
Stay oblivious forever, anon-chan.

Jayden Gutierrez
Jayden Gutierrez

implying the game itself doesn't ship them

Jace Kelly
Jace Kelly

Mikleo feels like a true heroine
They must follow the manga/novel

Jeremiah Brooks
Jeremiah Brooks

Everyone's in on it user, not just the fans.

Noah Richardson
Noah Richardson

No you lot just straight up gay with these fanfics and delude yourself thinking the developers intended for it and it is justified.

Fujos should all kill themselves

Caleb White
Caleb White

But, extinguishing hellions isn't Sorey's dream either. They're shared dream was humans and seraphs living together in peace, and they have that dream because they want to be together. Sorey only pushed Mikleo way because he didn't want Mikleo to get hurt, and Mikleo realized that and called him out in it. It's not like Sorey didn't want Mikleo by his side either which is a part of the reason why Sorey was having such a hard time.

Mikleo was raised to support Sorey, but Mikleo himself also does so because he doesn't genuienly cares.

If Mikleo were a female then their relationship would be more obviously akin to an arranged marriage. There'd be no way that anyone would ever believe that their relationship was anything but romantic.

Dylan Jones
Dylan Jones

Seriously, how new can you be? Game developers in Nipland saw the monies and learned how to pander to women a long time ago. Please stop embarrassing yourself with posts which reek of ignorance.

Robert Taylor
Robert Taylor

I used to be this naive as well once. Things have changed user. Fujo demographics are actively sought out and pandered to because they bring in the money.

Jackson Evans
Jackson Evans

Nip developers have no problems pandering to fujos, for instance this is from an official Tales book. You also have the official novels where Mikleo is the only character that Sorey ever goes into detail describing and calls beautiful.

Jaxon Wood
Jaxon Wood

I thought that Mikleo and Sorey were a bit different from the regular fujopandering. They are actually very pure and sweet instead of the usual rivalry and drama.

Guess they could be seen as very close and innocent friends instead of gay.

Colton Nelson
Colton Nelson

pure and sweet
That seems to be the most popular bait for fujo though.

Gabriel Perez
Gabriel Perez

Shion and Nezumi
just friends
user... hate to break it to you.

Ethan Smith
Ethan Smith

Except I didn't say that? The anime only becomes canon homo mid-series with the kiss, up until that point it's baiting.

David James
David James

STOP PLAYING SHIT GAMES SND SUPPORTING SHIT COMPANIES YOU BUNCH OF SHIT EATING DRONES

Anthony Adams
Anthony Adams

STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE
Stay mad.

Joseph Foster
Joseph Foster

I wish. Fujos have shit taste and go for rivals most of the time

Hunter Thomas
Hunter Thomas

Now, that's news to me. Care to elaborate?

Brandon Moore
Brandon Moore

the anime
In the original novels they were gay from the very start, and neither were innocent.

Kevin Sanders
Kevin Sanders

raging faggot for a lead
mikleo best bro
Rose/Alisha are trash
Edna is loli bait
whatever the wind fuckers are
annoying cunt lady in the lake provide fiery sword
And then people try to shit on Vesperia in this thread.

Josiah Foster
Josiah Foster

Don't you know what rivals mean? Lots of shippers and not just fujos usually seem to believe people can't just genuinely dislike each other, it must always mean they want to fuck. I'm not saying sweet ships aren't popular but I always felt like rivals are more popular. Zesty thankfully didn't have much on that font since even Zaveid becomes your bro midway.

Camden Nguyen
Camden Nguyen

Now that's bullshit. I read the novels not that long ago and I don't remember anything homo happening at the beginning.

Jack Hall
Jack Hall

I always felt like
Maybe it's just you then.

James Gutierrez
James Gutierrez

Lailah
annoying
I'll kill you.

Sorey
a faggot
Only for Mikleo who is basically a female childhood friend archetype.

Adam Young
Adam Young

No, rival pairings have always been popular. Just look at all those shitty older fandoms i.e cg, death note, drrr, naruto. I think sports series have that too although given the number or players you get more variety. Sweet ones are popular too but a lot of times if there is a rival alternative instead they'll go for that.

Ryder Morales
Ryder Morales

I got the same feeling from Lailah, but I think it's just a consequence of the seraphim not being fleshed out as characters standing on their own(except Dezel). Any agency they might have is secondhand to Sorey's mission. They're clearly meant to be guides for Sorey, but thematically and gameplaywise they are more like tools than guides.

cunt
die

Jose Powell
Jose Powell

So what does everyone think about the possibility that Sorey might be Artorius?

Adrian White
Adrian White

She's not annoying, but her "I can't reveal plot points because of a pact I made so I'll say something stupid and random instead!" bit gets kind of grating after the first few times. I thought her whole situation was kind of bullshit when she first explained it in Ladylake, but that's poor writing rather than a character flaw.

Kevin Myers
Kevin Myers

I'm not convinced. I feel like the popularity of a given ship is not related to the rivalry, but rather to the fact that there tends to be only two main male characters (DN, Naruto).

Carson Russell
Carson Russell

discussing Berseria
not following promotional material
Watch the PVs scrub

Levi Harris
Levi Harris

Yeah that always felt really creepy to me as I played. You could let the boss smack the Seraphim around as long as at least one was alive, and you can swap them in and out and let them regenerate for more abuse. That probably wasn't the intent of the system but it felt like the Seraphim were punching bags and the player-controlled character was god ordering his minions to die on his behalf. Didn't help that the ally AI was prone to maximum retardation.

Daniel Moore
Daniel Moore

Go away /v/, no one invited you. Back to your Jojo and wan piss generals.

Christian Rodriguez
Christian Rodriguez

Tales of the abyss was a good anime

Brayden Bailey
Brayden Bailey

No I mean, Aifread is mentioned. The same Aifread who has been in numerous Tales games by now, but was last heard of Xillia. And from the sound of things he's still around in Berseria.
Another thing that I find confusing is if Eizen has been around since before seraphs and hellions were a thing then we isn't Edna privvy to the great deception of the church and the seraphs?

David Allen
David Allen

Sorey
Artorius
Wait, what?

Christopher Butler
Christopher Butler

I also remember the spirits of Xilia appearing in Vesperia.

Nolan Young
Nolan Young

A pirate called Aifread is just one of those recurring things that pops up in Tales Of games, like a mechanically-oriented character called some variation of Cid in FF.

Anyway, Aifread is a fairly prominent legend in Zestiria. There's a whole field area named after him. Some random NPC in a bar somewhere says that nobody knows who Aifread looks like and speculates that he might be a dragon or a woman.

Luis Watson
Luis Watson

Self righteous blind moralfag with a sword and who vanquishes hellions goes back in time and accidentally fucks up the world.

Lincoln Howard
Lincoln Howard

Is there a single game in the Tales series where one of the main characters doesn't sacrifice him/herself at the end?

Cameron Bailey
Cameron Bailey

I like that they're animated tsun Mikleo at the start of the game.

Christopher Hughes
Christopher Hughes

I haven't played all the games, but when I tried to think about it, I realised you have a point user.

I'm working on Phantasia right now and I'm just going to assume that Cress sacrifices himself somehow. Goddamn it.

Leo Phillips
Leo Phillips

The action was good and the music was godlike, what more did you want?
The music was generic and the action was horribly sluggish, boring and badly choreographed. Let's not try to make any excuses - the GE anime was fucking horrible, the story was even more retarded than that of the games and Alisa was turned into a horrible annoying cunt with ten times the issues she had in the game. The scientist flashbacks were the only good parts.

Blake Torres
Blake Torres

Which Tales game has the best OP?

Joseph Johnson
Joseph Johnson

The MC rarely does the sacrifice in Tales, its usually a secondary cast member.

Ethan Reed
Ethan Reed

I WANNA BE WHITE

Jacob Smith
Jacob Smith

the existing Tales anime sucked ass
Nah, Abyss and Symphonia were fine. Mostly mediocre, but not actually outright bad.

Josiah Bailey
Josiah Bailey

Abyss. Bump of Chicken can do no wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0Pa2eQmTNA

Josiah Brooks
Josiah Brooks

Is this shit going to flop?

Zachary Diaz
Zachary Diaz

Destiny.

Zestiria has the absolute worst and I'm so fucking glad they replaced it for the anime.

Christopher Moore
Christopher Moore

I'm pretty sure nobody is sacrificed at the end of Vesperia.

Aaron Thompson
Aaron Thompson

Sorey and Mikleo are cute but I would pay to watch the subsequent raid on Bamco HQ if they reveal the person who grabs Mikleo in the epilogue is just some random no-name Shepherd, bonus points for mob eyes

Levi Long
Levi Long

The instrumental version is good, if a bit too repetitive. I agree that the vocals are really fucking bad and I'm not unhappy that we got the better version.

Julian Ramirez
Julian Ramirez

A shepherd wouldn't be there anyway. That ruin is outside their area.

Asher Diaz
Asher Diaz

Graces, cant go wrong with based BoA. Runner ups are Xillia 1/Symphonia and then Hearts/Destiny 2

Luke Brooks
Luke Brooks

This.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8tAylYdgGQ

Anthony Brown
Anthony Brown

In Xillia 2, you can choose the murder everyone ending.

Joshua Miller
Joshua Miller

But that's clearly a bad end and the fight is so hard it's like the game is telling you're mistaken.

Bentley Smith
Bentley Smith

The party suvives Hearts with no trouble. And you can kill the troublemaking whore in Xillia 2 if you don't feel like putting up with Baba's honorable samurai garbage.

Jacob Gray
Jacob Gray

I DONT WANT TO SHIT ALL DAY
I DONT WANT TO CUM WITH DAD
DURING GAY DAD YOU CAN
HOW DO WE GO SEND THE CUNT? YEAH!
SHE DONT WANT MENSTRUAL SEX
SHE DONT WANT MENSTRUAL SEX
SHITTING ON A TOKYO
WANNA BE THE WHITE WHITE LIGHT

Daniel Allen
Daniel Allen

My sides. Some parts are japanese though.

Carson Rodriguez
Carson Rodriguez

Innocence, unless you count chitose, but she killed herself.

Dylan James
Dylan James

Phantasia, because the sacrifice is at the beginning :^)

Jose Campbell
Jose Campbell

that pissed off fat guy on the left
If it weren't for the nip text that'd be the perfect reaction image.

Kayden Murphy
Kayden Murphy

I don't care that it's a bad end. It's great that the game gives you the option to be contrary and refuse to follow the self sacrifice path that Baba wanted.

Owen Wood
Owen Wood

There won't be yuri.
no proof

Brayden Thomas
Brayden Thomas

There won't be yuri. Velvet will be straight or /ss/. There will likely be fujobait with Eizen and Samurai or the twink knight boy, because pretty male knights are loved by fujos.

Because everyone will be pandered EXCEPT yuri fans?

What?

Thomas Powell
Thomas Powell

Yes. Yurifags are faggots that's why.

Brody Foster
Brody Foster

She can't reveal stuff because the shepherd has to learn on his own. That's the whole point of his training.

Matthew Cruz
Matthew Cruz

I'm glad English is not my mother tongue.

Jonathan Anderson
Jonathan Anderson

Lailah: Oh, that's right. For example, I can lend these clothes to Mikleo-
Sorey: Ah... That might work too-
Mikleo: No thank you!

Goddammit Mikleo just put on the dress.

Ayden Rodriguez
Ayden Rodriguez

I know that, and it's expected that he has to learn, but the way they had it set up was stupid. "This character knows everything, but they can't explain because reasons. Go forth, MC, and discover what this character already knows and could have saved you the effort of doing!" Really? They couldn't have her forget due to the long period of sleep and gradually recover things as Sorey repeated the footsteps of the previous Shepherd?

Jose Taylor
Jose Taylor

No, she can't reveal stuff because her power is derived from the geis she has not to tell anyone about Maotelus.

Isaac Cook
Isaac Cook

Right because a man running his hands asking another man's naked body is completely heterosexual.

Colton Martin
Colton Martin

Sorey is a waifufag of a different kind.

Isaiah Gomez
Isaiah Gomez

Sauce? I can't track this down and the art is gorgeous.

Juan Sanchez
Juan Sanchez

Where is this from?

Elijah Wright
Elijah Wright

The official novels

Liam Hill
Liam Hill

The novel I think.

Camden Ramirez
Camden Ramirez

Where can I read them? In English, I mean.

Lucas Hill
Lucas Hill

You can't, the tumblrfags doing the translation stopped when the game came out in NA.

Luke Martin
Luke Martin

I don't see any logic behind it. Did they get bored?

Brody Sullivan
Brody Sullivan

No they're literally just doing it in their spare time.

Juan Richardson
Juan Richardson

I have no expectations when it comes to video game adaptations

saves me the disappointment

Andrew Allen
Andrew Allen

I meant it user.

Ian Jones
Ian Jones

If it ends with Rose end it'll be saved. Best girl

Christian Long
Christian Long

Hey Phoenix Wright has been ok.

James Harris
James Harris

There already was a video game anime that didn't suck.

Eli Nguyen
Eli Nguyen

Baba, please.

Jordan Garcia
Jordan Garcia

There are people in this thread who still haven't realized that his name matches with the name of Zestiria's last dungeon

Anthony Martin
Anthony Martin

Didn't Baba say it wouldn't work out?

Landon Ward
Landon Ward

If it ends with Rose the Aliciafags will probably threaten Baba's life. If it ends with Alicia, then Rosefags will do the same.

The only acceptable end is the childhood friend.

Wyatt Foster
Wyatt Foster

Aren't Sorey and Mikleo a fairly popular pairing too? Not to mention if the TV series follows the game's story even just a little then Alisha will still end up irrelevant just like Rose.

Julian Roberts
Julian Roberts

Not who you're responding to, but I thought Zestiria was disappointing too, especially the stupid ass camera. Only character I liked was Edna. Sorry if that bothers you lol.

Connor Powell
Connor Powell

There are people in this thread who care about the lore of a shitty game

He didn't say it but the scriptwriter basically said Zestiria's lack of romance is due to them specifically writing Sorey as a pure archaeologist and that a romantic relationship with a female would've ruined that. They wanted the story to be centered on Sorey/Mikleo.

So they basically denounced anything between Sorey/Rose/Alisha in a roundabout way.

William Collins
William Collins

shitty game
Devs tells shippers to fuck off

Something isn't making sense here.

Andrew Nguyen
Andrew Nguyen

EHHH?? I thought it had a pretty damn bland cast. Xillia,Graces, Symphonia may have been "cliche" too but at least they had more interesting character dynamics (interacting with each other, weird spats etc.)

I guess I am alone here?

Juan Collins
Juan Collins

Yes, it's pretty clear you're a terminal faggot.

Jordan Parker
Jordan Parker

But why would anyone think that Sorey would work with Alisha, the whole thing with Maltran pretty much shows that they wouldn't have worked out. And Rose can't even understand him half the time.

Anthony Young
Anthony Young

Anime adaptation of a shit game
Its dead on arrival.

Angel Foster
Angel Foster

ummmm....what is the standard of the series? That's pretty up in the air. I always thought that most Tales characters were shit on their own but came alive through conversations with the other characters by showing how different their personalities were. Zestiria's character interactions feel a lot less charming than pretty much any previous tales game IMO.

Isaiah Edwards
Isaiah Edwards

From pixiv:
スレミク 1217 results
スレアリ 325 results
ロゼアリ 118 results

Lincoln Kelly
Lincoln Kelly

They're popular together because Mikleo is the only character Sorey seems to deeply care about. Alisha didn't stick around to become a romantic interest and Rose basically the anti-Sorey. They worked as a team to save the world but they had no chemistry as lovers or even really friends, now that I think about it. "Hurr your hobby is dumb" and "durr look at me trying to be smart".

Damn, trying to be objective about describing Rose's faults is hard. Fuck you Baba, keep your shitty waifus out of the games.

Joshua Thomas
Joshua Thomas

Well faggot or not, I still disagree. Character dynamics are what makes otherwise cliche characters more interesting. Zestiria's characters don't really mesh really well together compared to say Xillia or Abyss, especially characters like Rose and Alicia which I thought looked nice but had plain personalities. Edna was ok.

Also, Tales story lines may set the bar low but thats no reason to not try and make it better in the next game.

Logan Foster
Logan Foster

Also, Tales story lines may set the bar low but thats no reason to not try and make it better in the next game.
Which is basically impossible since the fan base has such a broad and violently differing take on what to do to improve it.

Cameron Carter
Cameron Carter

What if it completely trashes the story for goofy shenanigans? The only Tales game I've played was Symphonia and its story and characters were garbage, so if this is one of the worst games in the series maybe they just need to not play it straight at all?

Ayden Perry
Ayden Perry

So in other words Sorey and Mikleo are the most popular pairing by a landslide.

Thing is though I think that even if Alisha did stick around it still wouldn't have worked out, and you'd probably just end up seeing their differences more.

Samuel Peterson
Samuel Peterson

Abyss
meshing well
Xillia
everyone stays entirely within their stereotype box
Ok

Jacob Gray
Jacob Gray

Abyss characters all had their own individual reasons for traveling together before they grew closer abs became friends.

Andrew Baker
Andrew Baker

Devs tells shippers to fuck off

Well, a certain brand of shippers. Either way, they said romance wasn't really prevalent in the game.
Sorey rejects Alisha ingame and the cast pokes fun at it
Rose and Sorey claim they'd never date
Both Rose and Alisha die over the centuries Sorey is sleep
He wakes up to save his waifu from falling into a trap door

Discussion is pointless. This is endgame no matter what the anime does.

Cameron Edwards
Cameron Edwards

So in other words Sorey and Mikleo are the most popular pairing by a landslide
At least when it comes to fanart.

Henry Sanders
Henry Sanders

Doujin too.

Nolan Miller
Nolan Miller

Xillia had great moments (TEACH ME ABOUT BAZONGAS) and there was definite character growth for most of the cast. Jude, Milla, Alvin, and Elize were all at least slightly different from beginning to end. For me that's better than a complete 180 like Luke does in Abyss, since people change gradually rather than overnight. Granted, Luke was actively trying to become someone different, but it felt like the writers forgot that and just kept him in his new personality regardless of what happened.

Zestiria was only saved by Edna and Dezel. The characters are alright but when most of the skits consisted of "Sorey is such a pure boy/nerd!" and "humans are their own worst enemies", there's not many chances for them to express themselves in different ways.

Jack Ross
Jack Ross

Yes. Yurifags are faggots that's why.

And straightfags and homofags are the only groups Tales series pandered to

fucking brilliant deduction!

Blake Ross
Blake Ross

I agree. The character become more interesting when the skits are more whimsical/joyful.

Cooper Murphy
Cooper Murphy

Yes. Yurifags are faggots that's why.

You feel threatened by them, huh

Blake Diaz
Blake Diaz

If it ends with Rose the Aliciafags will probably threaten Baba's life. If it ends with Alicia, then Rosefags will do the same.
The only acceptable end is the childhood friend.

Or take the 4th option and say fuck all relationships pandering and otherwise

William Anderson
William Anderson

Fair enough user but I still think it's worthwhile to talk about it here. Any ideas about what direction the series should go in on the so-called "community" forums just gets either dismissed or degenerates into shit slinging at one another. I personally think Tales is starting to suffer from some creative bankruptcy (we'll see how Berseria goes). You don't agree?

Anthony Hernandez
Anthony Hernandez

Dezel was terrible.

Adrian Thomas
Adrian Thomas

So how that DLC, that all-girl power hour stage?

The anime will have to incorporate Rose x Alicia

Logan Cox
Logan Cox

Thing is though Luke didn't change all that much. Luke was always a good and kind person at heart, he just had rough edges and didn't know how to interact with others. So he had to teach himself how.

https://youtu.be/ypvA49ewL28

Luke Flores
Luke Flores

I personally think Tales is starting to suffer from some creative bankruptcy (we'll see how Berseria goes). You don't agree?

Having a lead female to be the MC is a fucking good start

Now they had to make sure not to Toriyama it badly ala FF13

Levi Roberts
Levi Roberts

Zestiria was only saved by Edna and Dezel.
Nah. Both were just as horribly written as Rose/Alisha. I don't know why you people try to make exceptions like it matters. Dezel's entire backstory makes no sense no matter how many times you look at it and Edna is just fapbait and overdone comedy relief. Her entire reason for joining is dismantled in a single optional sidequest.

Jack Gutierrez
Jack Gutierrez

Which is impossible if they follow the story, it's either childhood friend and an eternity of doing what he likes best with a person who understands him or being forever alone.

Ethan Kelly
Ethan Kelly

Not the user you replied to but I think Tales is suffering from some of the same things that Final Fantasy is. As the series ages, how do you keep it relevant to new audiences while appeasing the people who have stuck with you for a long time? The easiest ways to do that are having some minor recurring themes (Aifreed, item names, references to characters from previous games). However, the things that made Phantasia a hit are not the same things that will make a new Tales game a hit, necessarily. For better or worse people don't necessarily want to sink 100+ hours into a single-player RPG any more. Single-player, story-based games like mothership Tales and FF stories are not exactly in vogue now too.

I'm not sure exactly what they can do to improve the series since I am just one fan among many. But I think they can start by focusing on more cohesive narratives. Skits are great and I hope Berseria is more like previous games where the skits are for lighthearted interactions we wouldn't see otherwise; Zestiria kind of failed on that.

Adam Collins
Adam Collins

Jude, Milla, Alvin, and Elize
Still were terrible characters

Isaac Hernandez
Isaac Hernandez

Not really. There were upwards of 300, not counting the occasional voiced exchanges in the field, and almost all were light material that existed only to provide character interaction.

Joseph Hill
Joseph Hill

Not necessarily FFs main problems as far as Nips are concerned is the opposite FFXIII's main problem and it's a problem shared with the FFXV is the overly long development cycle, which means that ideas that at the time of their conception were new and original are now tired and overused. Tastes change, and a long development cycle doesn't account for that. It's the reason why their spinoffs ate doing so well. Though the amount of stubborn people too stock in their ways in charge probably doesn't help matters.

Angel Cox
Angel Cox

*are

Dylan Torres
Dylan Torres

http://plaines.moo.jp/mt/2016/05/post-80.php

if you're still here

Elijah Allen
Elijah Allen

I said "saved" but really they just had the best skits most of the time. The rest of the characters weren't really interesting when they were talking; even their lighthearted stuff wasn't memorable or entertaining. Overall the skits were lackluster though. If I had taken a shot for every "poor humans are gonna generate malevolence" skit, I'd be dead.

Henry Ross
Henry Ross

It's hilarious every time someone says certain character(s) saved it, it's someone different but this is the first time I've ever seen one praise Dezel. Huh.
I thought they were all pretty cute and amicable except him. He's nice with dogs though.

Sebastian Bell
Sebastian Bell

they won't be able to lewdly fuse together anymore

Grayson Young
Grayson Young

Oh they can still fuse it'll just be a different type of fusion.

Matthew Edwards
Matthew Edwards

I guess I can understand that sentiment. I actually went through all the skits for completion and I can honestly say there were only like four I actually enjoyed.

This game, it's characters and their interactions were just plain disappointing. I can't even consider them a 'team' by the end of the game - they all joined for no reason other than helping Sorey save the world.

Thanks pal.

Justin Jones
Justin Jones

saving the world isn't a good reason, but being someone's friendor, a random loli or a foreign officer is perfectly fine

Jace Lewis
Jace Lewis

Which is why I like the Abyss group they were formed with the common goal of saving the world being friends came later.

Dominic Brooks
Dominic Brooks

Lots of handholding in the Blu-ray bonus epilogue.

Samuel Fisher
Samuel Fisher

I don't think he's implying that, it's just as the story was written the characters mostly joined Sorey out of the goodness of their hearts. Mikleo was going to follow Sorey into hell itself and Lailah made it her mission in life to help the Shepherd, but for the most part the rest of them joined for the sake of having a full party. Edna joined on the condition that they find a way to save Eizen but as a previous user stated once that's done, she technically doesn't have to stick around. Rose joins because story said she needed to, and she brings Dezel with her to round out the party. Zaveid also joins because gameplay demands his presence.

Abyss felt tenuous at best, but the progression was natural enough that it was tolerable. Everyone picking on Luke and calling him out for being an insufferable brat was what kept me going until he changed for the better.

Aiden Torres
Aiden Torres

Well, Edna also said she was going to help them anyway. She joins because she knows what shepherding is about, as does Zaveid. Dezel is the only seraph who joins for purely personal reasons.
The less said about Rose, the better, but people do exaggerate her negatives. Being the squire isn't all that different from what she was already doing, and she keeps her day and night jobs.

Daniel Green
Daniel Green

storyline as well as history
I always thought that everyone who thought that was expecting SB to be like the Koei games. SB has always been style over substance, and the anime plays that strength well.

Chase Bell
Chase Bell

Imo no single character "saved" Zestiria, I liked some of the character interactions, particularly Mikleo and Sorey's, but Mikleo and Sorey by themselves weren't much.

Luis Phillips
Luis Phillips

Daily reminder that this is official art.

Joseph Hall
Joseph Hall

luke really didnt change over night though, akzeriuth was definetly his wake up call and the turning point in his character but he still showed signs of selfishness over the course of the next 10 hours of the game that he had to check out and then that sparked another series of development in regards to his self worth and willingness to sacrifice himself.

frankly i think the latter part of luke's development was something zestiria tried to do with the shepherds burden but....just kind of didnt work. Zestiria as a whole feels like great ideas wasted on lackluster execution, though id say its pretty underrated based solely off the frankly absurd and exaggerated reception its got, i recognize all of zestiria's flaws but even its lowest points dont reach the depths that games like innocence or symphonia 2 reached.

Hunter Howard
Hunter Howard

It's actually not. Some artist at the Ufotable cafe drew it and Ufotable decided to promote it on their official twitter. So it's just promoted as such.

Justin Peterson
Justin Peterson

The Shepherd's burden was a funny thing. It never really affected Sorey because it apparently requires the Shepherd to be a popular moralfag, and Sorey, despite being sweetness and light for the most part, really wasn't one and didn't particularly care about being liked. I think a lot of people had trouble wrapping their minds around the fact that they were playing a game about a pack of good-natured murderers on a quest to save the world. The only dilemma came in the form of figuring out the correct way to murder the boss.

Julian Peterson
Julian Peterson

Sorey was a pretty generic good-hearted MC for the most part but he had two things that set him apart:

1. His relationship with Mikleo
2. His INTENSE autism

Julian Perry
Julian Perry

Will Berseria be able to top Xillia 2 in having a party that doesn't care at all about how many people they kill?

Lincoln Powell
Lincoln Powell

What's so bad about Innocence?

Asher Walker
Asher Walker

edgelords and ancient pirates with bondage shota
We can only hope.

Nolan Edwards
Nolan Edwards

I don't think they can do it.

Xillia 2 has your guys wiping millions of people out of existence without any dilemma over it aside from a sigh.
And they have the stones to tell Milla that she could stop being a bitch even if they blew up her entire dimension

Utter madmen

Chase Turner
Chase Turner

_____ is crap though

There's always someone

Xavier Jenkins
Xavier Jenkins

The entire Xillia saga was fucking dark. Even the creators thought so, and give you that message in the joke credits. It is a world that is much like our own, and they portrayed it as such. Despite the darkness, there is a certain warmth to the way people interact.
Zestiria is a break from familiar worlds, and it shows in the differing value system they have set up. One massive break from the previous Tales titles is the lack of focus on mana as a resource. The entire world they live on seems to have mana be abundant and well within reach of the populace. The focus on the effects of one's mind on one's environment and the moral implications thereof is new to the franchise as a whole. Sorey is not a murderhobo, nor is Rose, and those who think they are are a delusional bunch. Remember, Rose kills only who she sees as being morally bankrupt or unable to be saved by purification. Comparing the morality of the previous Tales games with Zestiria's morality is not feasible due to the differing central moral point. It comes down to scarcity of resources in the previous titles and Zesty is all about how the intent you have affects the world around you.

Eli Morris
Eli Morris

Is Symphonia 2 really that bad? I'm playing it and liking the story so far, though I'm not crazy about being a Pokemaster. It's nice to see a heroine that isn't afraid to admit that she wants a relationship.

Matthew Hall
Matthew Hall

How big to you think Sorey is?

Isaac Adams
Isaac Adams

But why would anyone think that Sorey would work with Alisha
They had pretty good chemistry at the start of the game before she goes. That coupled with the advertising leading up to the games release is probably why.

Colton Ward
Colton Ward

its lowest points dont reach the depths that games like innocence or symphonia 2
They're both better than Zestiria.

Julian Scott
Julian Scott

That game was so mismanaged, coupled with the fact that it was being developed by the time Xillia 1 was finished in development so alongside multiple other titles, team was split into two, Baba was incapable of meeting with a compromised so he picked the worst alternatives.

That's why early game footage showed Alisha with the party fighting one of the game's earlier bosses because the team thought they settled on her being the heroine, but nope. Even her scale said she was the heroine because she originally was, the manufacturers were not wrong. Bandai Namco failed to update them on the progress. Its no wonder this game came out in such poor shape.

Elijah Edwards
Elijah Edwards

Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality.

Ian Russell
Ian Russell

I like that saying.

Hunter Mitchell
Hunter Mitchell

So is this gay or is it just typical Japanese "tickling your bro" fujobait

Levi Gray
Levi Gray

Genis might be traumatized if he ever met Sorey and Mikleo talking with Raine.

Brandon Smith
Brandon Smith

This is more like typical Japanese 'it's not gay if it's just you'.

Connor Ramirez
Connor Ramirez

tales of innocence had a good story, cast, gameplay and skits, maybe you're confusing it with tempest?

Tyler Martinez
Tyler Martinez

God tier
Xillia 2
Graces F

High tier
Xillia

Still good tier
Vesperia

Bad tier
Zestiria

Thomas Cruz
Thomas Cruz

The trailers kinda give the feeling that shota will be the one with the upper hand in the relationship.
Eternia? The party got separated for a while, but none of the members got sacrificed.

Carter Miller
Carter Miller

Or take the 4th option and say fuck all relationships pandering and otherwise
Fuck you, I want some fucking closure when it comes to character relationships. I'm still mad that Jude and Milla were never confirmed to have gotten together in any of the endings.

Jeremiah Powell
Jeremiah Powell

She will likely intercept his soul on its way to Origin and Chronos and reconfigure it to be a spirit.

Owen Harris
Owen Harris

Jude is a genius so he'll most definitely fix the world's mana shortage. And after that they'll hump like rabbits.

Levi Gray
Levi Gray

I'm going to assume this was your first Tales or you need Buff McShootbang Army Man games to keep you entertained. I only thing Destiny really starts off with a lot going on at once.

Matthew Nelson
Matthew Nelson

desperate
There is no desperation in a game that gives everything on a silver platter.

Colton Garcia
Colton Garcia

Team Destiny always did use their menus for additional humor, just look at Graces.

Justin Wilson
Justin Wilson

This is a travesty to humanity

Carter Nelson
Carter Nelson

My sister in arms

Kayden Morgan
Kayden Morgan

I hope we get to see her in Berseria, being happy with Eizan.

Alexander Anderson
Alexander Anderson

i started playing tales in 2010 tier

You

Logan Ward
Logan Ward

5 minutes

He missed out on edna. That in itself is a crime

David Gray
David Gray

But what about Tales of symponia 1 and 2?

Wait, you didnt kill zelos?

John Anderson
John Anderson

The Eternia one was fun but it seems to have stopped either being made or translated after meeting Celcius.

The winter costumes were cute and it was enjoyable. Wonder if i could find raws.

Thomas Taylor
Thomas Taylor

Thats too fucking cute. God dammit, now i want a OVA of Keele and Raine teaching a class with Presea and Genis and the rest of them.

Also, fucking Reid learning some battle tactics finally.

That whole things is heart warming

Jason Taylor
Jason Taylor

I like images of all the protagonists from the games interacting with each other. It's fun to see their personalities clash.

user, you have much more to learn. Play more of the games and see if that ranking still holds.

Brayden Harris
Brayden Harris

Imagine Sorey and Mikleo sitting with all the kids, taking copious notes while smiling.

Aiden Hill
Aiden Hill

With sorey and mikleo itll have to be with raine exploring some ruins and genis carrying all their bags

Henry Garcia
Henry Garcia

They love reading about history too you know, Sorey loves Rowen's angsty poetry too. Oh god, imagine Sorey trying to get a signed copy.

Nathaniel Peterson
Nathaniel Peterson

I did but it happens within the same game.

Isaiah Evans
Isaiah Evans

69
Ur one cheeky cunt arnt ya m8

Samuel Robinson
Samuel Robinson

Please take this manner of speech elsewhere.

Justin Wright
Justin Wright

Teepo might have been one of the most annoying characters in Tales if it weren't for half the cast of Abyss and Rose. Compared to some of those guys he's downright tolerable.

Not looking forward to the moronic witch-chick and the Normin in the hat for Berseria. Her design screams "I'm so quirky and special", it's disgusting.

Asher Jenkins
Asher Jenkins

I still think vesperia takes place in the distant past to xillia.
Also the seraphs in Zesteria are genderswapped Efreet, Gnome, Sylph and Undine.

Lucas Richardson
Lucas Richardson

I thought so too but after you find out Teepo just vocalizes Elize's thoughts I started liking him simply because of how neat the idea behind his 'character' is.

David Cruz
David Cruz

The witch is tease and about as old as Eizen.

Adrian Ortiz
Adrian Ortiz

Age is irrelevant. If she's as annoying as she seems then I will enjoy the game a great deal less. I hate "quriky" characters whose sole purpose is to provide fap bait and exposition in the most high-mannered and bitchy way possible. In real life most people would get tired of their shit real quick but for some reason in anime they are seen as normal, pleasant people to interact with.

Also, books for a belt? Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?

David Barnes
David Barnes

Dude nobody gives a fuck about any of that crap. If I wanted realism I would not be playing a Tales game. She's a fun character with a good VA.
books for belt
No. She carries books ON HER BELT. For quicker casting and ease of access to her tomes. It's convenient design, for once.

Isaac Baker
Isaac Baker

Might be convenient but it looks really bad and ridiculous, even for a japanese RPG.

Henry King
Henry King

it might be convenient, but it looks inconvenient and shit
You're full of shit, user.

Tyler Turner
Tyler Turner

I think it's the combination of jester outfit, books, and that long clump of hair in the middle of her face I wish to god I could cut off. It's a bunch of random design choices that don't work well together.

I don't play Tales games for realism either, but the entire character archetype really rubs me the wrong way. Some people hate tsunderes, some people hate himes, I hate bitchy quirky girls. Fortunately the rest of the cast seems to be likable enough. MCs who are essentially balls of rage are fun when the rest of the cast isn't in on their vengeance thing.

Lincoln Stewart
Lincoln Stewart

How can you not love that smug?

Levi Rivera
Levi Rivera

They're cashing in on the new Touhou fad

Jonathan Flores
Jonathan Flores

Why is she so fucking lewd ? Is it the bra strap

Zachary Myers
Zachary Myers

inconvenient =/= bad and ridiculous
I'm talking about how it looks, not its usefulness.

Jonathan Jones
Jonathan Jones

Smug is fine if it's in small doses or in reaction to well-deserved comeuppance. She doesn't seem like she has a good reason to be, but I can withhold final judgement until the game is released.

Curse you and your asynchronous releases, Bamco.

Jaxson Wood
Jaxson Wood

She has sick hoverboard skills and dodges Velvet's sword slashes like a pro. That's good enough reason to be smug. At least she's not like Shinoa who is smug despite being a shortfag jobber and a bully target.

Nicholas Jones
Nicholas Jones

Hottest girl

Anthony Cox
Anthony Cox

She can't save this game. If the blonde sibs were playable, then maybe they could help. But it's impossible.

Still better than Zesty where everyone was shit though.

Landon Brooks
Landon Brooks

mfw tits on Meebo

Jackson James
Jackson James

Meebo looks good whether if he has a dick or a vagina.

Jason Perez
Jason Perez

Does anyone remember the name of the Seraph that becomes Tiamat and leaves his lover behind? It's starting to bother me but I don't feel like playing through the game again just for that.

Cooper Scott
Cooper Scott

He is just an unnamed NPC.

Caleb Bennett
Caleb Bennett

Wanting two racist on your team

Jose Evans
Jose Evans

Everyone needs to sit down and have some peach pie. We can bond over the deliciousness of the pie.

Aiden King
Aiden King

Kill all normins.

Mason Nguyen
Mason Nguyen

Send them to Normin Hell.

Ryder Cox
Ryder Cox

Though overall the story would have been better served having Mikleo as female.
How the fuck would that change anything about the story? It's a completely irrelevant detail except for the shipping faggots worthless agenda.

Jordan Moore
Jordan Moore

What was the point of Teepo anyways? I played Xillia 2 first and thought he was just another """cute""" mascot character but after playing the first Xillia I began to wonder the point of having him back/what was his reason for existing anyways.

David Ross
David Ross

He is there to show you that Elize is a massive pervert beneath that cute exterior.

Benjamin Clark
Benjamin Clark

Well first of all having Mikleo as a female would mean that we'd never need to deal with the whole Rose v. Alisha bullshit. There'd be no need to prop up either girl, since they'd be just party members.

Yeah there's no way to escape the fact that people would automatically draw the conclusion that Mikleo and Sorey are knocking boots, hell most people have drawn that conclusion already.

Mason Brown
Mason Brown

better?

Austin Sanchez
Austin Sanchez

Teepo is a booster that enables Elize to cast strong spells despite being so young. He also voices her inner thoughts that she doesn't say herself. Definitely more useful than Miu, not as good as Repede or as cute as Rollo. He's just in-between.

Josiah Brown
Josiah Brown

Rose v. Alisha bullshit
That's nothing but bullshit from retarded fans. Like I said, this is irrelevant except for worthless shipping autism. The story itself is unaffected.

Waifufags need to be purged.

Dylan Clark
Dylan Clark

This show already has established drama to act as a guideline for shitposting so it's even more DoA than most upcoming shows

Christopher Nelson
Christopher Nelson

If Cheagles could evolve into a larger more battle capable form (or an effect of the sorcerer's ring), Mieu would be top tier. Rollo top cute though.

Jack Ward
Jack Ward

Well you yourself said it there'd be no real change in the story, except there'd be no question on who the heroine is. On top of that the story would have no reason to dog on Alisha, in order to make Rose look better, because she'd just be a side character. It would also allow Mikleo to take center stage more.

The way how the story treats both Rose and Alisha is shit and marked just how lacking the writing was.

Ian Mitchell
Ian Mitchell

I understood what he was, I just thought he would have a more important role in the story and get his memory data back or something, doing the whole "more than just a tool" thing but he never did.

I guess I just expected him somewhat to be his own character rather than an extension of Elize. Also, I felt Teepo being put away in the end of the first game was ruined a little bit by having him return in the second game.

Oliver Murphy
Oliver Murphy

Elize in Xillia 2 is shit shit shit

Wyatt Sanders
Wyatt Sanders

On top of that the story would have no reason to dog on Alisha, in order to make Rose look better

You're assuming a female Mikleo would fulfill Rose's place as 'heroine' and thus obsolete controversy between Alisha/Rose. That's wrong because Mikleo has shit to do with fandom autism.

Mikleo is only meant to serve as Sorey's best friend, his water seraph, and interpretable love interest. Not Sorey's human squire. Rose would still need to fulfill that and thus wouldn't be 'just a side character'.

It would also allow Mikleo to take center stage more.
He is more correlated to the plot's conflict than even Sorey is. I can't imagine how much more center stage you can get.

Asher Bennett
Asher Bennett

This is guaranteed to be shit. Come on, don't even set yourself up for disappointment.

Mason Rodriguez
Mason Rodriguez

The least fujo pandering the better.

John Ward
John Ward

man I started playing symphonia lately and it is amazing how an old game is a thousand times better than the latest one, zestiria lack of content and lifeless locations and dumb comba system really makes you wonder what the fuck happened to the series, specially after vesperia.

Liam Watson
Liam Watson

Maybe there was too large of a focus on streamlining and modernizing the game systems so the actual content fell aside? Just spitballing, but I totally agree. Starting with Graces they don't feel like "Tales" games at all any more.

The characters are still just as fun (for the most part) but everything else feels like a different series.

Ryder Diaz
Ryder Diaz

really?, I loved graces, characters were fun, the combat system was superb, and it had a shitload of content, sure the story wasnt the strong point but it was entretaining.

Jonathan Thompson
Jonathan Thompson

I think kind of the same thing that happened to anime productions in the post late night otaku baiting era. They started to dance around having to make actually involved games that last and instead opted for tricks like waifus, special fan events, extras, DLC, popular band/seiyuu tie-ins etc to turn a profit and the core gameplay, length and design ideas started to get neglected more and more over time for hey lets just make these chicks look hot and these dudes look either ripped or effeminate as fuck. You can really see it in how they start to sex up the characters more and more from about the point of Xillia on. They also started pumping them out like a catholic family with too much holiday time and now we practically have a game a year. Consider that this franchise started with pic related as it's lead character design and what we have coming up in Velvet-chan

Bentley Barnes
Bentley Barnes

Team Destiny loves overcomplicating their battle and weapon systems. Zesty is tame compared to Graces, which had at least fifteen different weakness attributes. The square battle area messed up the necessary dodging mechanic by allowing you to get stuck in a fucking corner. The split between arte trees was poorly done, especially with the CC costs varying so damn much. And the Dualizing system was obtuse as fuck. The saddest part is that there are those who consider these positive features and consider Graces the pinnacle of the entire franchise.

Nathaniel Anderson
Nathaniel Anderson

Yeah I liked Graces too, but it didn't feel "Tales-like". It's difficult to explain but I think the art aesthetic is a lot of it- the older cartoony icons have been swapped out, the skits are full-body with more expressions, and the style of the characters themselves have been updated to modern design standards.

Is a modern depiction of pic related, they don't feel the same at all. Time marches on but the new designs feel kind of bland. Or pants-on-head retarded like .

Ethan Collins
Ethan Collins

because graces combat system was the best of the entire franchise, it was fun as fuck and not complicated at all, the hell you on about?, of course the simplicity of symphonia and vesperia was amazing too

Andrew Jones
Andrew Jones

The saddest part is that there are those who consider these positive features and consider Graces the pinnacle of the entire franchise.
A few hours in the zhone cage where every single enemy has ironstance for a long time and re-activates after every one of their own attacks will change their mind.

Zachary Reyes
Zachary Reyes

It's exactly the same thing that happened to late night anime

Involved billion hour JRPGs take too much time and money to make and nobody really cares about them anymore, there's still severe burnout. Only the really big companies (like Namco) can put out traditional games without it being a total waste of effort because of brand recognition. Nobody else cares enough to break in with a high concept game and cheap pieces of shit like Compile Heart and Idea Factory games make a decent profit with no work put into them because they have cute girls

Colton James
Colton James

because graces combat system was the best of the entire franchise
Nah.

Nolan Rivera
Nolan Rivera

Cress is very well designed, his build is very well suited to swordplay and he actually wears armor. The very next game gives us Stahn, who has noodles for arms and in general is not as well designed with his fighting in mind. It seems to me that Team Destiny works are too overdesigned in many aspects.

Nathan Sanders
Nathan Sanders

loved his fighting style too, thats why I love palying as flynn in vesperia, would love to see another tales MC using that sword style

Asher Sullivan
Asher Sullivan

This guy knows what's up.
Replaying Xillia 2 and now I'm hooked playing as Milla. I ignored her in 1 and played mainly Ludger, Jude, Gaius and Alvin in 2 but now I can load her up entirely with summons and her spirit shifting artes are fun.

Nathan Moore
Nathan Moore

Too bad we'll never see the PS3 version in English. Fucking Bamco. That's one thing I'm glad they stopped doing- re-releasing the "full" game a year or so after the initial release and shafting us unimportant non-Japanese players even harder. Now we just have to wait a year for our questionable localizations.

I haven't played Destiny yet but Stahn reminds me of a relic from 80's metal hair bands. Not the best MC design I've seen.

Bentley Clark
Bentley Clark

vesperia english patch has been out for quite a while dude, you just need a moded ps3 adn you are good to go

Zachary Morales
Zachary Morales

The fact that they took the only aspect of Graces fighting mechanics that was good, unique character fighting mechanics, and ran with it made Xillia memorable and interesting.
Jude is the kite tank, Milla is the magic knight with magic slaps, Alvin is the alpha strike cool down fighter, Elize is the gambling healer with a side of dark mage, Rowen is the battle tactician that uses spells to guide enemies to their doom, Leia is the item loving answer to Jude's tankiness with buffing spells, Ludger is the stance fighter with an answer to everything, Gaius is the tank that has reflecting armor, and Muzet is the confusion fu master with warping capabilities that strengthen her spells. And the best part is that looking at the skills they gain tells you how they should be fighting

Alexander Ramirez
Alexander Ramirez

PS3 doesn't have Troy Baker.

Kayden Allen
Kayden Allen

Its hard to resist Edna

Jeremiah Thomas
Jeremiah Thomas

Sounds like someone needs another trip to the Scary go round

Juan Young
Juan Young

No, she and Ludger need to show them that Blessed Arte the Pink.

Jaxson Evans
Jaxson Evans

I wouldn't say no to seeing black Shallie and her bells animated.

Michael Hall
Michael Hall

I don't want to hear that sellout voice again.

Connor Adams
Connor Adams

Why would he stick to lower paying work? Honor and duty? He's not Japanese.

Granted it is unfortunate he'll never return to older roles aside from AAA titles, but I can't blame him for his choice.

Luke Taylor
Luke Taylor

He's dumbass, even since he became a sellout he's doing nothing but showing his real personality.
All his twitter posts are pure retardation, I hate him now.

Chase Diaz
Chase Diaz

He's the heroine. It's less sexual and more soulmatey. Like it would be the same if one of them were a girl.

Anthony Torres
Anthony Torres

Not a chance. Even the OVA added Sorey/Mikleo touching eachother more than in the game and this anime is directed by the same guy.

Isaac Allen
Isaac Allen

I don't follow his social media, in fact I only used twitter to follow a few artists. I suppose it's for the best I never pay attention.

Landon Martin
Landon Martin

user let's be honest, between Mikleo and Rose, who actually fits the role of main heroine better? You said it yourself he's more connected to the story than even Sorey.

Because storyline wise Mikleo is more important he would take on that role as heroine. Rose being a squire doesn't have any bearing on her importance to the story.

Jace Lee
Jace Lee

This thread is still alive?

Shit

William Thompson
William Thompson

Hnnnnnnng

Ryder Ward
Ryder Ward

I wish there'd be a Graces anime. So much ass.

Mason Campbell
Mason Campbell

Fuck you guys. Sophie is not for sexual thoughts.

Joshua Sullivan
Joshua Sullivan

Lelouc making sense for once. Game is shit. Mikleo is waifu material.

Michael Harris
Michael Harris

Don't blame us. Blame the game.

Luis Gutierrez
Luis Gutierrez

It's not rape if it's a robot.

Jose Young
Jose Young

Though overall the story would have been better served having Mikleo as female.

Jackson White
Jackson White

Sorey's hand

Elijah Morris
Elijah Morris

PENISBONES.

William Harris
William Harris

Yeah it did. When the scenes of an anime have less emotional impact than poorly animated blocky 3D models acting out the same scenes the anime sucks.

Connor Cox
Connor Cox

Not really, they pretty much say "man I REALLY wish we didn't have to do this" at least once per cutscene once they know what they're doing

Sebastian Foster
Sebastian Foster

That's because the videogame are an interactive medium. Of course it's going to have more impact, by the time that you get up to those scenes in the game you've already spent a lot of time with the characters, by way of skits, and side quests.

Ryder Johnson
Ryder Johnson

Looking at the relative popularity of the pairing, along with how the novel and manga handle the story, it's more likely that there will be actually be more fujo pandering, than the game itself.

Jacob Phillips
Jacob Phillips

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