Which is the best Servant/Master pair?
Which is the best Servant/Master pair?
Kayne "Hot Wheels" El Melons and Crazy Dirmund.
Femgil / kirei
Those 2 are definitely the most entertaining. I miss them.
None of them
Caster with the serial killer and Rider/Waver are by far the best.
Why does Zero have everything good?
Because the writer is for once competent.
I fucking loved this basakah, but I may be biased, since I´m a sucker for armors.
So you have no argument.
liking edgy fucks
Kirei and Gilgamesh in Zero is the best, Illya and Hercules/Waver and Iskander come after.
play F/SN visual novel
everything except parts of HF is complete trash
what a qt
Irisviel and Saber.
Saber & Shirou.
If Irisviel wasn't used goods I would agree.
Irisviel isn't a Master, except in Fate/Accel Zero Order
One of the best written and interesting pair.
Gil and his loli.
sharing one last smoke with what was essentially her father
They didn't deserve this
Mordred, the knight of treachery was actually loyal to the end to her Master
Me and Tamamo.
Fuck Holy Grail War. I would hug to her breasts all day long.
Mordred did nothing wrong
Gudako / any servant
Saber and BIG BLACK COCK.
Gudako is the best Master we've had yet.
finally someone gets it
Rin / seibah
Gaia and Saber. I want to see her wreck some of those "external planetary threats" up with ultimate Excalibur.
Well, what VNs you like?
Rin / Archer (UBW)
Can someone explain to me the appeal of Kirei (outside Fate/Zero)?
I'm missing Heavens Feelio and I don't get why some people think he's a good villain
I never liked Berserker. He looked so out of place as a CG knight next to all the other drawn characters. Not to mention he looks like a rejected Dark Souls boss
Rin and Gilgamesh canonically have very high compatibility.
Hypothetically, Illya + Karna should be unstoppable.
Illya + Archer Heracles when ?
Her and Scathach are probably the top picks for female Servants to summon. Fuck the GO MC for being able to have both.
I don't think so. Scathach would never open her legs for you aren't some kind of badass warrior.
what is a command spell
Literally never. You have a better chance hoping for Herc to come out in GO and having high compatibilty with one of the Ilya CE's
Kirei Kotomine and Altera
both fucked up
Using a CS to fuck the powerful witch that rules the Land of Shadows against her will
Not the best idea you can have.
What's Altera like in terms of personality?
Rin and Gilgamesh canonically have very high compatibility.
Why? Because her dad was Gil's master at one point?
Though other servants have been calling her out on her bullshit pretending to be Attila lately
Except Tokiomi and Gil have shit compatibility.
probably the same
She feel somewhat empty inside and only enjoy destruction , so they would totally make a fine couple wanting the same thing for the grail and acting with the same purpose and strategies
No, Gil and Rin have an absolute compatibility. It would be scarry to fight them if they were Master and Servant.
The pair we never got to see. Why are Lancers such bros? Minues Deershit, that is.
Dan Blackmore and Robin Hood.
Because Rin looks like Ishtar and she's a tsundere , both are things Gil hates. Except her personality is completely different from Ishtar's, something Gil would find highly amusing.
Also Gil = infinitely rich, Rin = infinitely poor
Rin = infinitely poor
What? Rin is only poor by noble standards. She's pretty loaded otherwise.
The gems are fucking expensive though. In a Grail War she's poor as fuck because she relies on boatloads of them
I liked how Kerry never addressed Saber directly in Fate Zero except when he used a command seal.
Was that mentioned in the VN? I think it was when I was reading it.
Yep, she directly said in the VN that Kerry only talked to her directly three times throughout the grail war. I honestly didn't like it, just went to show he didn't know how to use her strengths properly because he wouldn't make a strategy with her.
It seemed childish and beta as fuck to refuse to talk to her just because she was a grill.
She'd be better off with one of the strongest Berserkers if mana consumption isn't a problem. Lancelot is good but not that good; Heracles would be much better
Kiritsugu + Strange/Fake Hassan would be unstoppable.
Karna would be even better. But I don't think she could summon such a pure Servant in this form.
I always interpreted it as Kerry refusing to talk to her because she's literally his version of Santa Claus. She's supposed to represent the core of the ideal to save everyone, Kerry's already refused that ideal because he knows you have to make sacrifices to save the majority.
It's like a child growing up believing in Santa Claus and then coming to resent the idea of Santa Claus once his parents tell him that he isn't real.
She could probably get Arjuna though, which is just as good.
Yep, that would work.
I think that when Archer knows that Kiritsugu is his Master, the first thing that he try is kill him.
Arjuna is the endearing type of chuuni though. She's just a bitch.
He wouldn't. He only blames himself (Shirou) for what happened to him. For Archer, Kiritsugu would be like a pillar of his beloved superhero ideal. Do notice that in Stay Night, Archer tried to help Saber and told her she did the best she could do, instead of outright telling her the ideal is wrong, it would probably be the same with Kerry.
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Nobody posted the unrivaled best team yet
I'm dissapointed Sup Forums
This is a pair I'd love to see.
not liking team crazy
not reading Heaven's Feel
There's your problem
Dark Sakura/Unrivaled vs Kiritsugu/EMIYA
Who would win?
Play Heavens Feelio to find out
By the way, FZ may as well be a prequel to HF
Team Kerry wins
Fate/Zero Anthology Drama 1-4
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Fate/Zero Season 2 Booklet
Fate/Zero The Adventure Visual Novel
Kiritsugu x True Assassin (HF F/SN)
Considering Bazett is nearly as powerful as Kotomine and Lancer has Gae Bolg, I think they could have won if the two of them weren't such idiots.
dark sakura with his shadow familiars and lancelot with his KoH would rape team emiya.
origin bullet > dark sakura
I came here to post this
Rin/Archer is the best pair the most funny and dynamic relation they were always interesting to follow and also fucking charismatic
Rin & Saber.
To be honest
ITT: zerofags and secondaries
Fucking perfect. Avenger was based.
but still only B riding skill
Because Rin pleases old men for money, and Gil is the oldest man with the most money.
My dick/your ass
Goddamn we need more Bazett.
We need more both of them.
Ataraxia anime when
We already have more Avenger
He's in Grand Order now
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government
Some Avenger lines
“Heya! The weakest Heroic Spirit Avenger, have answered your summons!”
“Bo-ring. Oi, will you just go outside already please. Use your stamina, c’mon.”
“Sometimes I wonder what type I am. The type that silently serve or the type that plays rough. Just like a dog…just like a dog, huh! A beast who can viciously devour his master can’t be a cat anyway.”
“Are you worried that one day I’ll betray you? Because I’m Avenger? It’s natural for you to worry but, it’s because of it that I’m now stuck with this collar called a curse aren’t I, Master?”
“What I like? Humans, obviously. Since you lot’s sins are my sustenance.”
“What I hate? I’d rather not encounter something like a hardcore ally of justice a second time. Even if I try to devour him, my stomach will just be destroyed.”
“If you have a wish for the Holy Grail, please contact me. If even a failure of a Mystery Bag is fine for you, I’ll provide as many as you want.”
“Let’s party! Smell it smell it, the scent of desire burnt black in this splendid banquet. You should also thoroughly enjoy this gourmet food.”
“I’ve said this countless times but, the weakest Servant in the entire Servant world, that’s me. Don’t even think about letting me go into battle.”
“Aah…I’m beat…How many times have I died already…isn’t it hard for you too? Hurry up, pull a better Servant and make your life easier already.”
“Oi, you! I know I’m just some worthless Servant but aren’t you overworking me too much? Cut it out and find an easier Servant to use…what’s that? You’re gonna be stubborn about this? You’re gonna take me everywhere you go until the end!?”
“I can’t believe this…I can kinda fight now. Somehow it seems like I’ve gained a strange self-confidence. I’m quite a devious person but, it seems like Master is about the same. Well, birds of a feather get along well, don’t they say so?”
“This is just an unrelated story but, once before something like this also happened. There was a woman who could not leave someone that should have been discarded behind. That’s…that story no longer has anything to do with me, but that someone was indeed saved.”
Based as hell.
We still do need to see Ataraxia animated.
non canon ones
What if he summoned Sakamoto? Would they have won the war?
How the hell would they make it into anime ? Mixing the light hearted day scene with the serious plot with Bazett and Avenger on top of the loop seems to be a nightmare.
Sakamoto from Imperial Grail War story?
two cours alternating episodes?
No. I mean the COOLEST
Not enough night material to alternate episodes, and some important plot scenes occur during the day.
10 minute episodes for the Shirou ones, 20 minute episodes for what's going on during the night.
I'd love for them to just animate the Bazett and Avenger parts, but the ending would not make much sense then.
Best taste in this thread.
How about this one ?
Is there a design of Berserker who isn't batshit?
Kintoki's a pretty cool guy. Beowulf as well.
The best one I can think of. Lancelot distracts enemy master's attention, making an opening for Kiritsugu to kill them, something stupid Saber failed to do.
Huh, now that I think about it a lot of important shit happens on Shirou's side.
Well, I think a SoL + plot + Bazett combination would still work, but it would have to be a 24 episodes investment. I believe 12 would screw up pacing too much.
Kiritsugu is far from having enough mana resources in order to maintain Lancelot. If Lancelot starts using Arondight, Kiritsugu's finished.
Little girl and Birthday Ghost
shitty kariya managed to maintain him
actual magus Kiritsugu somehow doesn't
Not to mention he maintains Arturia just fine, she does excaliblast left and right and only has shitty luck when summoned by Kiritsugu
Powercrept hardcore. Garden of Avalon even retcons him being the best Knight of the Round.
By all counts, he should be a Lancer like in Apo.
You say that as if she wasn't one of the greatest instructors among Heroic Spirits. You could probably be a scrub even lower than Shirou and she would make you Bazett-tier.
She seems to have some standards about who she trains. She doesn't seem too interested in Gudao even when he asks her.
She would probably have to teach you something if you start as bad as Shirou did. If only so that you don't die 5 minutes in from surprise, well, anything really.
Yeah but like I said, you first need her to want to train you, and this isn't easy.
He was referred to as the greatest and strongest Knight of the Round Table in his data profile when F/Z came out. F/GO even further hypes him.
I liked Bazett/Angra, Ryuunosuke/Gilles, Kirei/Gilgamesh, and Isemi/Perseus.
Now I'm interested in reading this
No, but he will contribute himself onto community service at the end of the war.
My fucking nigger
not even posting the best boy
Perseus has a special place in my heart.
Are you a gay
implying anything better exists
Caster was stupid and annoying imo. A blight on the series.
Not entirely. I'm not attracted to Perseus though, I just think he's neat, in both the Nasuverse and lore.
I mean, if I went around saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!
buys a cute racoon girl slave
initially protects her
ignores her for the rest of the WN
why is this allowed?
As long as you recongize your King of Kings, that's fine.
No google results. Hook a brother up?
What's the problem here? Sounds like a great plan
This is a grail-winning combination.
Lancelot kind of sucks desu
He has no offensive Noble Phantasms, nor does he have defensive ones, only various buff-type NPs.
To be fair Kerry and Saber was a grail winning combination.
tfw they barely have any interactions
They didn't collaborate and hated each other's way, Iri as a mediator made it possible.
Robin hood + Kerry would be the easiest grail ever
Honestly, Berserker and Ilya. Their compatibility is perfect, she's a powerful magus and has nigh-unlimited mana to both fight and supply him, and Godhand alone makes Berserker almost unbeatable for most Servants.
But they don't need to collaborate. Saber just needs to listen to Kerry. Shame about all that ideal stuff
Kerry just needed to give her Avalon and sit back and relax.
Full power excaliblast
Bahsahka is insta-killed
Avalon doesn't really make Saber invincible. It just gives her a perfect trump against high damage NPs like Ea and improved regeneration.
Berserker's instincts were confident he would be able to survive a full-power Excaliblast even with only six lives left after Archer killed him six times. Saber under Rin would be a threat not because she can use Excalibur, but because she has the stats to be able to keep up with Berserker without needing environmental advantage like being in the graveyard.
It just gives her a perfect trump against high damage NPs like Ea and improved regeneration
So essentially it makes her invincible
Gilgamesh is the only one she would have trouble with in the 4th war, and with Avalon he is not a problem and the other servants become even more of a cake walk.
What if deer mud NTR's Kerry's servant away from him? Is Avalong NTR proof as well?
I'll raise your Robin Hood with Li
Nope. Saber with Avalon still had only the slightest odds of beating Gilgamesh. She had to hide the fact that she had it until he used Ea so that she could reflect the attack back at him, which would stun him long enough for her to finish him.
If he knew about it, she would have stood no chance.
Read the VN.
Not my fault Nasu made saber hax-tier.
Berserker's instincts were confident he would be able to survive a full-power Excaliblast
Wasn't this with Shirou as a master, so not full power?
You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just cause some watery tart threw a sword at you.
Saber used Excalibur at full power plenty of times under Shirou. Berserker had seen the full power attack when Saber used it against Rider, which is why he knew he could survive it.
If he knew about it, she would have stood no chance.
Read the VN. She explicitly knows that she only has one chance for victory, and that's baiting out Ea so that she can surprise him with Avalon.
She used it once and Ilya did say a full power blast could have killed Herc. Admittedly, could.
Wasn't Herc frozen to the ground in that scene anyway?
Yes, because Saber under Kerry is the same as her under Shirou.
Name a more chuuni servant than Dante
pro tip: you can't
Is this porn
It was Herc immediately post Archer battle, and he was a mess, but he was having a mental conversation with Ilya that he had some doubts about pursuing the enemy with only half his lives even though he knew Saber's sword was not a threat to him, even at full power.
She's got better stats under Kerry, but stats mean basically nothing to Gilgamesh. Not to mention, Irisviel not having Avalon would mean Kotomine would successfully kill her and Meiya early on in the war.
He isn't chuuni at all. He is just a wannabe edgelord. Arjuna is the real chuuni
Get injured badly
Lol Avalon regen
Ennemy use his NP
The only way to win is to kill Saber in one blow, otherwise she will just use Avalon a regenerate.
She doesn't regenerate that quickly. It's comparable to Saber Alter, who suffered a mortal wound and was stuck regenerating for several minutes in a helpless state. Still, it's a big deal when compared to a normal Servant like Archer, who suffered a mortal wound and was stuck recuperating for two whole weeks. But it's not enough to mean invincibility, far from it.
Kerry regenerated his hear in seconds.
She can sit in Avalon forever until her wounds are healed, that's better than any other Servant.
Avalon would work against any attack, but it cannot be spammed due to the prana cost of activation, and while in use, Saber cannot attack her enemies either due to being in another dimension. It's excellent for surviving and even reflecting attacks like Ea, but against someone like Lancelot, it'd be a big waste to activate it.
Here's his NP release chant:
"Holy Ground Expansion, Space Fixation, Divine Punishment Enforcement Period Establishment... All Clear. By Shiva's wrath, your life ends here... Pashupata!"
Yeah, and Iri took minutes to heal from having her guts stabbed through. It's very inconsistent.
Sieg and your waifu.
Lurk more, you retarded Gilfag.
Avalon is the Ultimate Shield. Its time flow is vastly different than the one on Earth.
Honestly the Berserker is so fucking badass.
I want Nagito as a servant
Doesn't mesh the same
Robin and Kerry have the same ideals about war, traps, and what it means to come out ahead even if you have to be a coward to do it.
Li let himself be gimped so he could have a fun fight, and was satisfied no matter how the fight turned out. Meanwhile Robin hates fighting directly, primarily uses traps and tricks, and he doesn't care about his methods as long as he wins.
Also both Kerry and Robin once dreamed of being heroes, even though they gave up the dream in favor of pragmatism, despite a small part of the dream still remaining in their final moments. Kiritsugu refused to talk to Saber in particular, but he said someone like a caster or assassin would probably fit him, or someone non-heroic.
No she can't, it costs prana to use the activation version of Avalon.
Now you're just baiting.
I had such big hopes for Siegfried in F/GO, all I felt was disappointment. You can't make every servant a 5*, heh.
Win in the first day,
The rest is riding the Dragon.
Fuck off saberfag, there's nothing worst than you and your headcanon because muh waifu
She is a saint, user, not a slut.
She is getting totaly destroyed, the guy is a beast.
Poor saint losing to cock
Once you go dragon, you never come back
What the. Is this in the manga?
Is pic related the guy who dicks her?
No, it's a much worse character
No, that guy tears out his heart to save a nameless Homunculus, who goes on to have an incredibly contrived and forced romance with Joan of Arc.
Apocrypha is terrible.
Not an argument.
I think it was just a question.
this is not a true EA and you know it
standing there watching shirou fucking him up
kiri couldn't even touch him with his knife in fz
This is hilarious
I think it's already been established Fate Shirou is OP af. He can shoot Berserker right in the temple, block his attacks and cut his arm off.
Any Shirou can shoot Berserker in the temple/
And any Shirou can beat Kirei.