4.44 is going to suck

Jayden Kelly
Jayden Kelly

4.44 is going to suck.

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Brandon Hernandez
Brandon Hernandez

who cares. kys

Thomas Phillips
Thomas Phillips

4.44 may be a miracle in some ways, albeit 3.0 was so garbage that it's pretty much impossible.

4.44 will never do all of the characters justice, though. That much is for certain.

Caleb Watson
Caleb Watson

I'll probably be quite entertained as I do consider myself a die hard Eva fan at heart. But those feelings are bleak right now...like dead inside, and it's all due to 4.0's delay.

I feel nothing for the series right now.

Henry Wilson
Henry Wilson

posting Kaworu
You never were a real die hard Eva fan. Hence how you feel nothing for the series, only the potential homo you'll get.

Grayson Turner
Grayson Turner

Somebody post that interview where he says he didn't watch Eva until like 10 years later and was surprised it was interesting.

Robert Price
Robert Price

Anno is too far removed from how he was when he made NGE too ever make something that good again, or at least something Eva related. The plot will be super-duper interesting, and the movie will probably be "great" all around, but Sup Forums will still hate it, just like they hated 3.33 for no reason

Daniel Smith
Daniel Smith

Too far removed from being a fedora-tipping faggot.

Matthew Rogers
Matthew Rogers

for no reason
you not accepting their reasons doesn't mean they have no reasons, big difference
ever since people got their first hands on the movie they did nothing but complain about various reasons why they were disappointed with 3.33

Ryder Barnes
Ryder Barnes

hated 3.33 for no reason
for no reason
top kek.

Robert Johnson
Robert Johnson

What is so wrong with liking Kaworu?

I'm not one of those cringey Shinji-Kaworu shippers, I've always liked Kaworu because of who he was as a character and his metaphorical position in the show.

He was a complete badass during the last half of episode 24, being all smug and shit.

He is Adam and the one of Adam's sons (the angels) as well. He represents Christ, who in christian mythology is God and the son of God as well. It's a nice concept for a character.

There was also other christian religious shit present in episode 24 that reflected Kaworu's symbolism of Christ, but it's been too long since I talked about it on here and hardly remember the other stuff.

Well one other thing I do remember is that that Tagbha base, the place where Kaworu is shown to awake in 1.0 on the moon, is the same name as one of the places where Christ performed some magic shit/miracle according to the bible.

Kaworu just stands out in general, how can you not prefer him over boring ass characters like Kensuke, Hikari, or even Maya? What the fuck did Maya ever do for the series?

Evan Bell
Evan Bell

The only "reason" is that it wasn't what you all expected. Same reason people hate Darker than Black s2 even though it was better than s1 or any other number of interesting anime, books, games, films that are hated simply for not satisfying fanboys. 1.0 and 2.0 was just a prostitution of the franchise, 3.0 actually tried to take the story in a new direction and justify the existence of rebuild, and it made much more sense stylistically.

As for specific flaws in the writing, you can't comment on that until the series is finished. 4.0 could reveal stuff that puts everything from 3.0 in context. If you saw only 3/4 of any series you'd probably say it's shit.

Zachary James
Zachary James

After 3.33 shitfest the only way to go is up. Wont surpass 2.22 though.

Josiah Torres
Josiah Torres

why did i even bother?

Ethan Howard
Ethan Howard

for no reason

story arc for 1.0 and 2.0 completely dropped thanks to random timeskip
character development for Asuka, Misato, and Rei completely dropped thanks to random timeskip
no showdown with Kaworu in his Mark 06 because fuck that let's bring out a giant flying battleship that shoots lasers and shit instead
any hope for exploring Mari's character and origins is rendered obsolete and impossible thanks to the timeskip

I could keep going on, but it's just going to stress me out and depress me a little

Nathaniel Harris
Nathaniel Harris

The only "reason" is that it wasn't what you all expected.
Nope.

It was downright bad. Accept it.

Christopher Rogers
Christopher Rogers

First and foremost, Kaworu isn't a good character.

A character being "smug and shit", which isn't even an accurate description of Kaworu, isn't a good reason.

Samuel Watson
Samuel Watson

The only ting 3.0 did right were the first two scenes. The pretty decent fight scene in space, and the scene where Shinji is wakes up and is brought into the Wunder's command deck.

The movie has nice choreography and some pretty stylish looking scene to scene transitions, I'll give it that.

Owen Morris
Owen Morris

2.0 gave me such amazing feelings of refreshment and freedom and all the blue colors on the sky

3.0 made me fucking hate eva and delete everything i had related to it

Hudson Cruz
Hudson Cruz

You do realize none of that is an actual good counter argument?

You can't just make up strawman reasons for why people hate 3.33.

It's a bad movie in it's own right, and this:
As for specific flaws in the writing, you can't comment on that until the series is finished. 4.0

is absolute retardation! Bad writing will always be bad writing.

Isaiah Morris
Isaiah Morris

No, everything after the first generic action scene is shit.

Luis Sanchez
Luis Sanchez

C'mon, we're on Sup Forums, give me a break. Him being "smug and shit" is just as much as good reason for liking him because he is a fictional character.

And I don't just like him for being smug, there are other reasons, but I won't list them because I might come off as a Kaworufagboy, which you probably already think I am.

If it helps, I also enjoyed seeing him have a panic attack during the dogma scene in 3.0, and thought his was gruesome decapitation was great. I honestly just wanted to see more of him.

Nolan Diaz
Nolan Diaz

3.0 honestly gave me the same feelings you got with 2.0. Things were different back then. I was blinded by how good the original series was, so when 3.0 shat out all this new shit I just wolfed it down and thought it was simply adding more interesting things to an already great series.

But now I've come to hate both movies, including 1.0.

Thanks Sup Forums!

Carson Smith
Carson Smith

Nothing is wrong with liking him, that's just a butthurt Reifag who hates every character.

Camden Allen
Camden Allen

No, it's not. Basically, you never liked Evangelion in the first place.

Jackson Collins
Jackson Collins

Evaretard right here.

Connor Baker
Connor Baker

is shit
Yes, but can you elaborate on why in concise essay form?

Dylan Bennett
Dylan Bennett

I don't think he was smug nn the literal sense. It was kind of assholish to be so nice to Shinji knowing full well what you are and how much you would hurt him.
I used to like him but have gotten really disinterested over time since the writers don't do much of anything with him.

Asher Rivera
Asher Rivera

Wake up nerd
No, Fuck you

Oh An-non, u so silly.

Cooper Ward
Cooper Ward

I thought the fight scene in the beginning was boring and badly choreographed, but I thought the piano scenes were beautiful.
Maybe because I'm a musician myself, but we hardly get such scenes in Anime.

Adrian Thompson
Adrian Thompson

and how much you would hurt him
But that's the thing. Kaworu never knew how much he meant to Shinji.
He doesn't even have a grasp on why humans want to live, much less why they emote and come to like one another.
He didn't think his death would impact Shinji emotionally, because he doesn't even understand human emotions.

Liam Peterson
Liam Peterson

just like they hated 3.33 for no reason

Wyatt Moore
Wyatt Moore

Pretty much how I feel. Some scenes of the Rebuilds are fucking amazing and make you think Anno still knows his shit, but then he fucks up here and there and at the end of 3.0 he has made so many mistakes that it looks seemingly irreparable.

I know people dislike Mari but I thought the opening scene of 2.0 was really great and it must've been awesome seeing inside a cinema, even if is right when he says that it was 'just an action scene'.

Same goes with all openings and endings. 2.0 ending was incredible, the opening scene to 3.0 was really cool and even though I didn't really like the movie in its entirity that last shot of Shinji, Asuka and Rei walking away when the music starts playing was amazing and actually made me eager to watch 4.0 even though I was pretty frustrated with the movie in general.

Do these scenes make the movies good? No. But nevertheless they are pretty great scenes.

Bentley Price
Bentley Price

He totally psychoanalyzed him within a few minutes of taking a bath together to somehow know all his people issues.

Brody Green
Brody Green

Not really, the only Kaworu that didn't understand emotions was manga Kaworu.

Hudson Perry
Hudson Perry

I honestly just wanted to see more of him.
I like him in NGE specifically because he chooses death over character development. Rebuild makes him look like a dummy trying to be manipulative.

Hunter Bell
Hunter Bell

You can read and recite a topic like a textbook, but if you're incapable of experiencing it yourself there will always be an element of detachment.
Kaworu may have superficially understood humans, but since he didn't share the same realm of thinking as them he couldn't completely understand them. That's why he's so bewildered by why they want to live. He doesn't understand why they want to live, because his angel nature makes him indifferent to life.

Josiah Thomas
Josiah Thomas

He doesn't understand why they want to live, because his angel nature makes him indifferent to life.
Where did you get that?

Blake King
Blake King

Manga Kaworu's whole character arc was discovering emotions. He was pretty much a humanized Kaworu.

Anime Kaworu understood emotions on a surface level, but he could never experience them the way a human can.

In episode 24. He says he doesn't care whether he lives or dies, and also wonders why the humans want to live so badly.
He says both in the terminal dogma fight scene.

Jacob Baker
Jacob Baker

it's disgusting how overrated eva is

Camden Wood
Camden Wood

In NGE his character was about a completely foreign and alien being's impressions and relationship with humanity.
In Rebuild his character is just about Shinji, it's a clear downgrade to appeal to the fujo audience.

Justin Bennett
Justin Bennett

NGE was before Anno sold out after all.

Colton Williams
Colton Williams

I think he just stopped caring about anything.

Kevin Cruz
Kevin Cruz

Not that foreign actually, There's mention in EoE,
Angels are the same as lilin, so that they come from Lilith, they are the 18th angel aren't they?

Jack Jones
Jack Jones

It's actually underrated. Few people understand the influence it has had on the industry; the sole reason people can still continue to enjoy anime to this day is because of it. Not seeing that shows a critical lack of understanding and utter shit taste.

Elijah Hernandez
Elijah Hernandez

Few people understand the influence it has had on the industry

LITERALLY who thinks this you fucking retard?

Owen Torres
Owen Torres

Not at all.
The lilin came from Lilith, the angels came from Adam.
The reason they are all called angels (or followers, literally translated from the Japanese word), is because they were born from a seed of life. Either Lilith or Adam.
They do share many similarities, but over the course of the show we clearly see the angels do not understand human emotions.
Arismael shows confusion at Rei's loneliness, for instance. Kaworu shows confusion at lilin's desire to live. They may understand the basic facets that make up a human, but they themselves are personally incapable of experiencing and understanding it.

William Myers
William Myers

He was a complete badass during the last half of episode 24, being all smug and shit.

Same reason people hate Darker than Black s2 even though it was better than s1

If you saw only 3/4 of any series you'd probably say it's shit.

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW LAD

Nathaniel Adams
Nathaniel Adams

Darker than Black doesn't have a second season.

Owen Gray
Owen Gray

I can turn a grey sky blue.

I can make it rain whenever I want it to.

Kayden Rodriguez
Kayden Rodriguez

I really am constantly amazed that every single nuance was ruined in the rebuilds.

Every single one. Like, most remakes get something right jsut because its a scatter gun approach and the law of averages says you must, but holy shit

William Davis
William Davis

I really am constantly amazed that every single nuance was ruined in the rebuilds.

I honestly believe Anno has some sort of master plan, and that 4.0 will surpass even EoE.

This may be wishful thinking, but I still have hope.

3.0 is and eternally will be shit though.

Ryder Foster
Ryder Foster

If you can't love the sweet gentle Maya, you can't call yourself a fan.

Levi King
Levi King

I want Kaworu to give me a blow job.

Brandon Miller
Brandon Miller

If Kaworu had any empathy or insight, this would be the most spiteful thing in the series.

Caleb Myers
Caleb Myers

Considering what he did in 3.33, which was to introduce several new and absolute wretched concepts, such a pic related, he has no choice but to explain them.

But even touching them at this point will ruin 4.0.

No masterplan short of coming out publicly, saying he fucked up, declaring 3.33 non-canon then remaking it will even begin to get Eva back on track.

Liam Taylor
Liam Taylor

Oh great, so Khara can spend another decade remaking something that never needed to be remade in the first place.

Josiah Young
Josiah Young

Yep, pretty sure that everyone who's even a bit into animu views Evangelion as a huge influence.

Jacob Moore
Jacob Moore

He made Rebuild to get enough money to fund Khara and their future projects.
He doesn't have to explain shit, his main goal was just to get yen and it succeeded.

4.0 could be the most terrible thing to hit theaters and it will still make box office. The fans lap everything up.

Ryan Hall
Ryan Hall

3.33 was pure shit and 4.44 will be the same

Hunter Gomez
Hunter Gomez

He made Rebuild to get enough money to fund Khara and their future projects.

I know, animator expo was the best thing to happen in years, I trust Anno our lord and saviour to make anime great again.

Brody Davis
Brody Davis

It was influential, yes, sadly, its influence made anime overall worse, it is overrated but still a pretty good anime, although not the best of its genre or its era.

Nathan Taylor
Nathan Taylor

its influence made anime overall worse
The industry was basically dying when NGE came out. NGE created an entirely new niche with its existence. If your favorite show came out after NGE, there's about a 50/50 chance it wouldn't exist if NGE was never made, and that's a conservative estimate.

Benjamin Johnson
Benjamin Johnson

Is the series any good? Hate to be that guy however, I still haven't decided to watch it yet.

Landon Ross
Landon Ross

it is overrated but still a pretty good anime,

I honestly believe the original series and EoE are mankinds greatest literary achievement.

Connor Ward
Connor Ward

It was pretty great, I'm glad that some of the shorts are getting full shows like that ice skating one.

Nolan Moore
Nolan Moore

they hated 3.33 for no reason
no reason

Jack Cruz
Jack Cruz

3.33 was basically "let's all yell at shinji for not doing what we tell him after keeping him in the fucking dark" the movie. No reason Misato's ass.

Logan King
Logan King

Its a love or hate it kind of show so just watch the first episodes and decide from there

Jaxson Hernandez
Jaxson Hernandez

sadly, its influence made anime overall worse
How so? And even if this is true to an extent, it's in no part Anno's fault; an artist is responsible for his work, and not for the people and works influenced by it.
although not the best of its genre or its era
What does this even mean? Does it have to be "the best", is it even relevant? And how would you prove something is or isn't "the best" besides flaunting your own subjective opinion? I don't think in any medium any sole work can be truly considered the most worthwhile, only that it holds up by itself against others. And Eva does hold its own, while many "good" anime take from it directly and indirectly.

Carson Cook
Carson Cook

There's no Reiquarium, the dummy plug comes from another base, and her memories aren't backed up. So what is this?

John Long
John Long

It's good.
k?
the only thing overrated about it, is the dumb as fujoshi bait character

David Evans
David Evans

It's Japan's most significant artistic achievement from the 90's.

You have much to learn

Wyatt Anderson
Wyatt Anderson

rofl

Julian King
Julian King

my bad friend, meant to reply to

Eli Gonzalez
Eli Gonzalez

It'd be good if Asuka died, I hate that fugly bitch.

Gabriel Garcia
Gabriel Garcia

Considering what he did in 3.33, which was to introduce several new and absolute wretched concepts
I fucking hate this.

Blake Morris
Blake Morris

You have much to learn

I can almost guarantee I am better read than you, Eva's combination of visual, musical, and emotional elements place it far above any other literary work. It takes full advantage of it's medium which allows it depth beyond what any single element could achieve.

Runners up are Rachmaninoff's second piano concerto, Notes from Underground, and Ivan the Terrible and his Son

Isaac Johnson
Isaac Johnson

I'd probably pay for a movie where every character just punches Asuka in the face for two hours.

Justin Evans
Justin Evans

I'd pay to doxx you and beat you to death, personally.

Nolan Cook
Nolan Cook

implying I'm touching that spoilered gif

Evan Gonzalez
Evan Gonzalez

I found an asshurt Asuka-fag.

Owen Morgan
Owen Morgan

I read some entry level Russian literature so I'm definitely better read than everyone on this board

Elijah Bell
Elijah Bell

Shove a tampon in it, fireposter.

Easton Scott
Easton Scott

Hey, you, get back in the baka box.

Angel Walker
Angel Walker

4.44 OST will be awesome again

William Allen
William Allen

Four. Four butthurt Reifags.

Jason Myers
Jason Myers

Just because it's entry level doesn't make it bad, and I was listing things that were good. There is no real way for me to prove that I'm better read than anyone, the only reason I brought it up was to point out the fallacy that ignorance is the only reason someone could have a dissenting opinion.

Hudson Brooks
Hudson Brooks

Asuka already looks like they got punched in the face, so no need.

Alexander Martin
Alexander Martin

replying to yourself again

James Phillips
James Phillips

projecting your samefagging tendencies on me

David Harris
David Harris

Mari wasn't introduced in 3.33, moron

Luke Gray
Luke Gray

projecting about projecting
Sasuga faggot.

Jonathan Torres
Jonathan Torres

You haven't changed my opinion doing that. What's Evangelion's claim to greatness? What do you even mean by greatness?

It's my favorite anime, and extremely interesting when examined in the context of 90's Japan following the economic crash, but there's nothing there to sustain its esteem to eternity.

Landon Martin
Landon Martin

Her memories are backed up. That's where the clones come from. Rei 2 was in there in 2.22

Lincoln Sanchez
Lincoln Sanchez

She's an example of something that is yet to be resolved/explained, Baka

Nolan Parker
Nolan Parker

4.44 needs to have a 4th impact to btfo 3rd impact. But it will probably have the manga's ending.

Carson Collins
Carson Collins

Now now, asuka, don't we know what happens when you talk without permission?

Noah Jenkins
Noah Jenkins

What's Evangelion's claim to greatness?
I explained this in my first post, I could go into detail but that would be boring. Would you like me to list every instance of justly used musical score, every instance of character development / depth, etc.

What do you even mean by greatness?
Lets not go down that rabbit hole

there's nothing there to sustain its esteem to eternity.
This true, but eternity doesn't matter. Searching for eternity only ends in pain, what matters is the present, and presently there is nothing better than Evangelion as a holistic work. The OST, the animation, the characterization, all of these are superiour to anything else past and present.

Cooper Rogers
Cooper Rogers

Didn't the manga end with Yui meeting Mari?

Isaiah Jones
Isaiah Jones

roleplaying
Get the fuck out, gaia.

Nicholas Evans
Nicholas Evans

4th Impact was the one at the end of 3.33, once again interrupted like the 3rd in 2.22. The one in 4.44 has been called Final Impact and it's the fifth one.
mfw the Third Impact was a huge deal in the original series while the Rebuild hands impacts out like candy

Owen Wilson
Owen Wilson

I think he means the original ending of the manga, with the world rest and that the seasons came back and everyone forgot about each other in the events of 3rd impact

Benjamin Miller
Benjamin Miller

I guess I'm misunderstanding your idea of greatness. I still don't know why the elements of it are what draws you to it (as opposed to the greater narrative) - I think it's a pretty inconsistent series

Luke Baker
Luke Baker

Asuka is such an attention whore he'd probably visit gaia

Logan Murphy
Logan Murphy

No way. Not the manga's ending.

It would render the world and scenario introduced in 3.0 with the time-skip meaningless. There will be no reset ending.

Shinji will just have to find his place in the new world.

The big problem here is how Shinji will resolve his relationship with Misato and Asuka. They both seem very bitter towards him. Will they even make up? How? I'm sure Shinji's resentment towards WILLE for initially treating him like crap and producing the bomb collar which eventually caused Kaworu's death, will make itself prominent in 4.0.

Things are extremely complicated right now. And don't even bring Rei into this right now, because doing so just makes things even worse. I mean, technically speaking, was Rei even in the movie at all? Who is this clone? What in the fuck happened with Rei?

Will the Rei from 1.0/2.0 return? How? What will become of the Rei clone? Will they merge in some bullshit asspull? Maybe the Rei clone is Reim but with half a soul or some bullshit asspull like that.

Good lord.

Andrew Diaz
Andrew Diaz

Being this mad because your waifu got BTFO by a faggot of Shinji's caliber

Aiden White
Aiden White

BTFO
>>>/reddit/
>>>/9gag/

Elijah Martin
Elijah Martin

Which is 3.33's biggest failing. Even 3I in 2.22 was dangerous and had high stakes. The crap in 3.0 was just monotonous

Isaiah Brown
Isaiah Brown

The great overall narrative is made of the elements I listed though. I could simply say I like Evangelion, or that I like how its characters react to different scenarios and each other. All of this is built on the quality of the animation, musical score, voice acting, etc.

Brayden Lee
Brayden Lee

Keep whining like a baby, much like Asuka after ep22

James Carter
James Carter

What's even the conflict in 4.44? Gendo killed all of SEELE by rusing Shinji into activating the Fourth Impact. Will it just be a NERV vs WILLE fight for supremacy?

Daniel Price
Daniel Price

Basically the real Rei will become a goddess again and kill everyone. She'll restore the world to NGE time and fix everything, and then bring all the humans back.
Asuka can stay dead though, ugly trannies aren't allowed.

Ayden Ward
Ayden Ward

Post YFW 4.0 is actually a Godzilla crossover

Ryan Wood
Ryan Wood

bring all the humans back
Didn't EoE teach us that the only people "human" enough to come back are Shinji and Asuka? (excluding Rei because she became God)

Luke Howard
Luke Howard

The real Rei is inside unit-01. Odds are, Rei Clone #521467 will end up in Unit-01's plug somehow and Rei will do a mindwipe and firmware update on her.

Then Shinji and Rei can kill everyone and seed the world with the little pink eyed daughters from the trailer

Jeremiah Green
Jeremiah Green

Fuck. Yes.

Angels and Nerf BTFO

Josiah Lee
Josiah Lee

http://www.strawpoll.me/10310706
http://www.strawpoll.me/10310706

Nicholas Cooper
Nicholas Cooper

No, they were just the first ones back.

Aiden Torres
Aiden Torres

Yui said anyone can come back as long as they imagine their form.
Shinji had already been tanged once in the show so he comes back first, Asuka is a pilot so she is well acquainted with LCL so she comes back second.

Easton Russell
Easton Russell

This is correct.
1.0 is a literal rehash.
2.0 is pandering bullshit.
3.0 is the complete opposite of 2.0.
This of course pissed off the many waifufags of the Evangelion community who wanted another fanservice film.

Cooper Cox
Cooper Cox

Asuka dies long before instrumentality actually happens. Same with Misato and Ritsuko. She's alive because Rei brings her back. She missed instrumentality entirely and would be dead along with everyone else who died before it.

Joshua Kelly
Joshua Kelly

I prefer the idea that nobody else had a sense of self strong enough to maintain an AT field. It separates the pilots from the rest of humanity.

Also, if others are coming back, then what was the fucking point of one more final: I need you?

Oliver Wright
Oliver Wright

found the butthurt asukafag

Ayden Bell
Ayden Bell

Q didn't know 2 even existed.

Isaac Myers
Isaac Myers

And Rei 3 didn't know for certain that Rei 2 existed until instrumentality. What's your point

Jaxson Stewart
Jaxson Stewart

0/10, considering 3.33 is the only waifufag movie. Nice projection, but critics panned it.

Jackson Rogers
Jackson Rogers

all these 1.11 fags
It's literally Eva with worse animation

Wyatt Butler
Wyatt Butler

This. Literally this. 3.0 Kaworu is bait for the entire yaoi fangirl population and Asuka hasn't been this pandered to since retake. She has a fucking eyepatch and cat ears in this shitty film, she's the biggest otakubait in the franchise at this point.

Bentley Howard
Bentley Howard

The point is to finish Shinji and Asuka's character arcs. It doesn't necessarily mean no one else is coming back.

Kayden Johnson
Kayden Johnson

The point is to finish Shinji and Asuka's character arcs
Elaborate
It doesn't necessarily mean no one else is coming back.
And it doesn't mean they are

Nolan Perry
Nolan Perry

How much simpler do you need it, there aren't any memories.

Zachary White
Zachary White

with worse animation
You sure about that?

Mason Edwards
Mason Edwards

Pretty sure, yeah.
The Rebuilds look like shit

Dominic Hernandez
Dominic Hernandez

Does anybody else remember the "Rebuild is a stealth sequel of Evangelion (TV) and Mari is Oldfag-Shinji's daughter with Asuka" hype?

Oliver Wood
Oliver Wood

It does because Yui literally says they are retard.

Dylan Ortiz
Dylan Ortiz

Mari is a decent human being. She couldn't be Asuka's daughter.

But sequel theory is still alive and well. Which is fine, because eoe sucks and was a shittacular way to end a frachise

Joshua Cruz
Joshua Cruz

Yui literally says they are retard.
Where are Proofs?
inb4 you have none because it never happened.

Colton Perry
Colton Perry

Pretty ironic considering Asuka is Mari's lesbian lover, now.

Benjamin Kelly
Benjamin Kelly

because eoe sucks and was a shittacular way to end a frachise

Kevin Turner
Kevin Turner

Mari is a decent human being
In 3.0 she didn't even care the world was coming to an end.

Jacob Torres
Jacob Torres

Provide an actual counterarguement or GTFO

Aiden Watson
Aiden Watson

Because she knows that the world ending wasn't going to happen.

Isaac Ross
Isaac Ross

It is strange that "Evangelion" has become such a hit - it is just an autistic worse version of Mobile Suit Gundam and Space Runaway Ideon. Anyone who says it is a "deconstruction" has only seen less than 10 other animes, all of which were made after 2000. Everything that Evangelion is known for was done better 15 years earlier by the master Tomino. The only reason Eva became popular is because it pandered more to pervert pedophiles (most anime fans, especially Sup Forums.) Evangelion is the go-to anime for newfag plebs. They say it has "deep" characters but they really only like it because the 14 year olds show a lot of skin. A big difference between Gundam and Eva is that 0079 has one of the best endings in anime history and Evangelion has not one, but two of the worst.

Robert Gutierrez
Robert Gutierrez

Provide an actual argument or GTFO

Jaxon Brooks
Jaxon Brooks

Would save 4.0

Joseph James
Joseph James

This guy gets it.

Jacob Gray
Jacob Gray

I don't know, I won't watch the movies until the recut of Q is out. But I've never ever seen the TV series beyond episode 6 either, so that's okay

Levi Stewart
Levi Stewart

0079
What I need to watch (and in what order) to completely watch "original" Gundam? Should I simply start with the original TV series, or should I watch one of the movies instead?

Liam Barnes
Liam Barnes

Answer is always broadcast order

Jayden Sanders
Jayden Sanders

both are pretty good but the series would be better to watch first but I do love all the music in the movies

Andrew Jackson
Andrew Jackson

You're right, of course.

Joshua Hernandez
Joshua Hernandez

It's a major fucking insult to have a faggot character somehow "represent" Christ

Anno should be burned at the stake

also fuck him for trying to ruin Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind too

Connor Bennett
Connor Bennett

Jesus Christ was a huge faggot though.

Jackson Reed
Jackson Reed

:^(

Blake Kelly
Blake Kelly

Yep.

The problems with modern EVA is waifufaggotry, ASukafaggotry and Kaworufaggotry in particular.

Michael Smith
Michael Smith

EoE makes it seem like Asuka came back first or at least rejected Instrumentality first. While Shinji was having delusions of all the girls wanting to bone him, suddenly Asuka can be heard saying "I'd never do it with someone like you!" or something like that, and that exact line is what prompts the sudden cut to live-action and Shinji's final epiphany about wanting to exist. Y'know, the rejection that supposedly couldn't happen in tang-world and made him realize that the tang-world is false comfort.

Tyler Perez
Tyler Perez

Asuka hasn't been this pandered to since retake
retake
what are you talking about? retake isn't canon, it's just a DJ made by some fans

Nathan Jones
Nathan Jones

Shinji clearly came back first, we see he had even enough time to nail Misato's cross to a board and for it to rust before Asuka appeared on the beach.

Grayson Rogers
Grayson Rogers

She cared. She's the one who leaped in and finally put a stop to it.

Wyatt Rodriguez
Wyatt Rodriguez

No, because that was, and still is, Asukafag retardation.

So desperate for shipping that they instantly try to rewrite any new story as shipping with Shinji.

Eli Lopez
Eli Lopez

Please don't remind us.

Tyler Hughes
Tyler Hughes

Unit 01 makes a giant Rei out of Zeruel's blood and Unit 00's core. It'll probably just shit her back out with her health issues fixed once everything is done.

That's because 4th Impact took place in a desolate wasteland with a population of 7 people and 4 Evas, at least until Wunder showed up.

Sebastian Clark
Sebastian Clark

Any sign of it actually coming out?

Ryan Nelson
Ryan Nelson

He maybe came back first but that line I mentioned really makes it seem like Asuka was rejecting instrumentality from the get-go, even if she took more time to regain her form.

Actually yeah, Shinji necessarily needs to come back first since he was God during that whole thing and he needed to decide on ending instrumentality before any coming back stuff could happen, so of course he'd be the first one.

I like the theory that strangling Asuka was a means to 'check' if this was actual reality after all or if he was still tang'd. He needed her to reject him to make sure it wasn't yet another fabricated world where everything would comfort him without asking. So when Asuka doesn't do anything except putting her hand on his cheek, he doesn't know what the fuck to think. Until the final line comes and clears that up.

Landon White
Landon White

How do you even know she was in instrumentality? She had bandages on and we never see her body collected.

Dominic Morales
Dominic Morales

Shinji sees one of those collector ghost Reis just as Asuka suddenly shows up in the beach, implying she 'brought her back' (from the LCL sea of course).

Also just the fact that Asuka speaks lines during the inner process in Shinji's minds, and the TV concept that during instrumentality whenever you see a vision of someone it's a fragment of the actual person, like a mass-shared vision, makes me conclude Asuka needed to be in instrumentality to exist within Shinji's mind and therefore she was tang'd like everyone else. If she wouldn't get tang'd, she would just die from the injuries as well.

Gabriel Gray
Gabriel Gray

know that Tomino inspired most of the works I love
still can't bring myself to like ANY of the series he's directed

Jaxon Young
Jaxon Young

So what about the bandages?

Adrian Gomez
Adrian Gomez

none actually, here's the deal, they haven't started production yet. it may have some ideas on paper but no actual work for the film has been done.

if anything they are just starting pre-production after Anno finished Godzilla.

i predict 4.0 within 2 years.

Joseph Jenkins
Joseph Jenkins

I wager that's just how Asuka imagined herself coming back. What would be the other possibility, that the ghost Rei put those bandages on her? Her body was torn to pieces and floating in the sky inside a MP Eva's mouth, bandages can't fix that.
Asuka brought back her body and since her last memory of physical existence was having her eye impaled and her body chewed out, she imagined the bandages into existence.

Gabriel Wood
Gabriel Wood

I suspected that since I saw the PV.
But I can't believe but it's been 4 fucking years goddammit.

Nathaniel Torres
Nathaniel Torres

It's funny that each month, each year, every year since 2012 people have been saying that.

At first there was even more boldness, saying that it'd be out within the next months because "obviously, it was incomplete".

Then, as time went on, they speculated it would be on the BD's. Buy the BD's and find out.

Then, it was later in 2013. Then, 2014 would clearly be the year, and obviously 2015 because "it's the year NGE happens, they can't pass this up!". Godzilla came, and people were then now saying it'd be a co-production of sorts.

Then it was suggested here that it'd be done as soon as filming Godzilla was done.

It requires much less mental energy, and it is much more rational and sane to accept the truth: it's going to be a long time till it comes out. I had settled on that the minute I saw 3.33, because I understood instantly what sort of movie it was, and I also understood what the director was trying to do.

The director is more or less a cunt, and doesn't care about the story or the characters beyond favoring them, reaching franchise-destroying levels.

Austin Kelly
Austin Kelly

Anno himself said that 4.0 might take six years!

Lucas Ross
Lucas Ross

There have been longer waits honestly, and I would hate for it to be rushed more than anything.

Jonathan Fisher
Jonathan Fisher

Due to how much of a mess 3.0 was, I'm not surprised.

Angel Rodriguez
Angel Rodriguez

Well Anno did just finished Godzilla, so what I was going with that is that if anything 4.0 is just a concept at this stage in it's development.

It feels that Anno just makes each film on the spot, (winging it.)

Ethan Howard
Ethan Howard

The audience at TIFF thought he was kidding. We were warned and everyone laughed.

Nicholas Cox
Nicholas Cox

3.0 was not bad if you ask me, I believe that Anno Disliked (hated) 2.0 and wanted to get as far away from that as posible,

if you don't know

2.0's development was a literal hell, the script was revised, doped, restarted about 5 times.

Ryan Russell
Ryan Russell

Anno doesn't care about Eva. He's sick of it and doesn't want to work on it anymore.
Either do any of the other staff, except for maybe Tsurumaki.

Even Sadamoto recently said in some interview that he was sick of it.

Lincoln Turner
Lincoln Turner

Has Anno ever been known to joke around?

Aaron Barnes
Aaron Barnes

One doesn't simply finish a movie. There is a windup towards the premiere followed by a wind-down of interviews, public events and more to handle as the director.

Anno sort of makes each movie on the spot, but ever since End of Evangelion there has been a red thread to follow which makes it clear that he's doing something worse than winging it. He is obviously rewriting Evangelion to gain his favorite characters.

That is what Rebuild is. Nothing more. That's why it's not necessary to finish the story. The status quo must be prolonged.

They were idiots to laugh. The audience are the retards of the anime and eva community.

You don't know anything about the production of anime or Evangelion in particular. It all goes through drafts, rewrites and revisions before it is finished.

If you don't know, 3.0 was absolutely horrid.

Shut UP. Anno isn't "sick" of EVA. He's deeply dissatisfied and autistic about the whole thing, and he has leaned on it for years and put in a lot of work to change it to being something more pleasurable for him, but disgusting as a work of art.

Adrian Reed
Adrian Reed

except for maybe Tsurumaki
Any reason why?

Tsurumaki was the one who said they should leave it be back in fucking 1996. Fuck him, I want him to make new stuff ;_;

Friday by Day proves he still has it in him on some level.

Jayden Myers
Jayden Myers

He jokes around all the time, watch any of his interviews.

Michael Collins
Michael Collins

Everyone is tired of Evangelion
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-05-17/legendary-evangelion-illustrator-yoshiyuki-sadamoto/.102218

Jose Scott
Jose Scott

Yeah, Tsurumaki was fine with the way the Anime ended and thought they didn't need to do EoE.

But he always liked doing sequel works to old things, see Diebuster for instance.
He's the one who's mostly in charge of Rebuild, not Anno, and he seems to be enjoying himself because he gets a lot of freedom to do whatever he wants.

Easton Clark
Easton Clark

3.33 was the first original eva story they had to make in forever and was meh. Something building on it can only be bad.

Nolan Foster
Nolan Foster

I thought Anno made the rebuilds because it was guaranteed to make its money.

It was Studio Khara's first ever production.

Leo Wilson
Leo Wilson

Pretty much, he just needed an easy way to fund his new studio. And we all know Eva sells no matter what.

Nolan Gutierrez
Nolan Gutierrez

You don't know anything about the production of anime or Evangelion in particular. It all goes through drafts, rewrites and revisions before it is finished.
If you don't know, 3.0 was absolutely horrid.

I'm lack knowledge on Japanese animation, however from what I do know from film-making on the Hollywood side,

Such practices are not only time consuming but expensive as hell.
I can't imagine how much money was lost due to re edits of the script. whole scenes with dialogue were made into storyboards then dropped.

I know that this a regular process in making anything, however 2.0 had far more re-edits than any of Anno's prior projects. except for his flopped film.

Nathan Sullivan
Nathan Sullivan

It doesn't matter how good or bad the movie itself is.
The resulting shitstorm will be well worth all the wait.

Tyler Brown
Tyler Brown

We'll be lucky if that's true.

Samuel Clark
Samuel Clark

It wouldn't be so painful if it wasn't Blue Balls: The movie.

Evan Gray
Evan Gray

Evangelion is due to having hit a critical mass of popularity and collective awareness, bound to be popular. It is something, it has a name people know.

If the intention with Rebuild was to make a serious story, it could easily be made with the framework Gainax had. But Studio Khara was created specifically to give Hideaki Anno more profit and control.

It wasn't original or just meh, it was downright bad.

It's not as time-consuming or expensive as you think. They do not create a finished product and then revise it, they make storyboards.

So you're paying five-ten men to sit around a table and brainstorm, write and draw crude drawings of something that may or may not get animated. If they're satisfied with it, they may get a voice actor to read the dialogue.

This is not an inherently expensive process, practically the only cost here is salary and only if they've chosen to take absurdly high salaries is this a problem. Then at the end of the day, the cost of this is always going to be more or less insignificant because of the low risk associated with the project, it's going to print money for just being Evangelion. Money was not lost, it was invested, and it was a huge financial success.

It's not like filming a real movie at all. There are less people involved, there are less laws to follow, there are less factors to consider, and less coordination required. It's not easy, but it's not close to a large hollywood production in terms of cost and risk.

3.0 is Hideaki Anno's own creation, moreso than the original Evangelion ever was. It was a horrid flick, 3.0.

10/10 shitpost

Jace Fisher
Jace Fisher

This.
The 3.0 generals were entertaining as fuck.

Jonathan Carter
Jonathan Carter

Remember, that this is based on a Japanese budget. Animation is cheaper verses live action.

Animation based films require less money to produce, so they receive less production funds.
What money they do receive needs to be spent wisely.

Robert Lopez
Robert Lopez

Watching all the hype when the camrip came out, followed by disappointment and "wtf did i just watch" a few hours later, god I remember skipping class to watch that piece of shit.

Aaron Jenkins
Aaron Jenkins

That's cool and all but what made the original brilliant was the face value of its elements working together to depict hard things.

The whole meta aspect of it isn't praiseworthy, it's not art, it's just pretentious discourse. So Rebuild just loses out by virtue of being a poorer quality product, ironically despite how much more resources were put into making it.

Ryan Perry
Ryan Perry

With that said, when 4.0 eventually comes out how pirated will it be?

I know people who will watch it via cell phone recordings.

Kayden Edwards
Kayden Edwards

We'll get a decent rip about 3 months after it's released, same as always. The Generals will be godawful both before and afterwards.

Caleb Mitchell
Caleb Mitchell

Look. "They" didn't receive any funds. Rebuild has, and always has been, completely and entirely self-funded.

According to Hideaki Anno himself, the budget for Rebuild is "virtually limitless". Need I remind you that Evangelion is an enormous success, and Hideaki Anno through Gainax sat on a nearly unprecedented percentage of the rights to the franchise? Tomino, the man behind Ideon, Gundam and others doesn't own a single thing, for comparison.

Remember, Anno Hideaki is the Cancer King incarnate.

Jordan Gonzalez
Jordan Gonzalez

3.0 camrip was pretty shitty and tilted and I still sat through it, honestly as long as I can't count the pixels and can see atleast half the screen it'll be fine, I'll end up rewatching 4.0 when a proper rip comes out.

Camden Williams
Camden Williams

Read the very bottom left caption of this little interview from '96(pre-EoE).
Anno gives zero fucks if the fans don't like what he does.

Andrew Parker
Andrew Parker

That soon? will it have fan sub by then?

Leo Lewis
Leo Lewis

Oh hell, I loved all the crazy theories and messed up shit that came out following just the audio rip that came out before the cam.

Aaron Williams
Aaron Williams

Were you not in the 3.0 Generals? We had an audiorip first, which then led to the translation project so that subs could be slapped on the first viable camrip.

Luke Thomas
Luke Thomas

If only you said King of Lincoln Island.

Dominic Davis
Dominic Davis

This is not about what Anno thinks. It's about the things he creates. He has no say on whether they're worthy or not.

Zachary Flores
Zachary Flores

I just started watching Jap-animation less than a year ago, so unfortunately no.

I assume you get them from some torrent site,right?

Lincoln Anderson
Lincoln Anderson

The last tine Anno worked on something involving Lincoln Island, it got outsourced to Korea and went to complete shit.

Brandon Williams
Brandon Williams

to me, 3.0 seemed like such a disappointment because all of the progress shinji made in 2.0 was wiped away. in 2.0, he was connecting with people more easily, so that it seemed like he wouldn't become a whiny bitch like he was in the series. i thought this reflected anno's change too, he wasn't a depressed young man, now he's a happy and successful dude

then 3.0 came along and it was like "actually, things are heading the same direction as the tv series"

Jace Carter
Jace Carter

See

Evan Rivera
Evan Rivera

Pic related is true though, it isn't a theory.

James Kelly
James Kelly

Yeah

unfortunately
It's not unfortunate at all. The generals were terrible, and the next ones will be even worse going by how threads are now.

Nathan Harris
Nathan Harris

The movie is called "You can (not) Advance" for christ's sake. It's literally written right on the tin what each movie is about.

James Parker
James Parker

What happened to that show anyways?

William Harris
William Harris

But user, ideon TV ending is hilarious, did you forget about the baby?

animes
Ah.

Parker James
Parker James

The BD release generals started off pretty good, I don't think it will be _terrible_

fly wing on the film stock

Jacob Brooks
Jacob Brooks

Anno got the reins back around episode 33 and it got good again.

Hudson Brooks
Hudson Brooks

okay, if rebuild is just going to be reusing the same ideas as the show, then i guess "it can't be helped"

still, disappointing

Isaac Ross
Isaac Ross

Do you know why it was outsourced? it was pretty good at the beginning.

Nicholas Gray
Nicholas Gray

They were bumfuck retarded, but we still had a lot of fun.

Jacob Bennett
Jacob Bennett

That's because people restrained themselves and left everything to the two guys actually working on the BDs, everyone else either pouring over new, higher quality material or talking encoding.

The Generals bring everyone in without any restraint. You know the awful bickering and yelling we get on a daily basis now? Imagine that concentrated and never-ending all in one thread.

Unless everyone can agree to some truces and ground rules, it'll be mayhem.

Mason Walker
Mason Walker

it got good again.
Was it good in the beginning? I only got three episodes in but I found Nadia obnoxious and the villains formulaic.

Logan Rivera
Logan Rivera

It was originally planned to be just two cours, but it got so popular that NHK, who was bankrolling production, demanded Gainax produce another cour.
Gainax just couldn't handle the demand, so they hired a cheap Korean studio and set Shinji Higuchi in charge of keeping things churining there while Gainax itself worked on more important bits. So the cheap, crappy, cartoony, filler-ish episodes were from Korea, but the Red Noah episodes, where the story actually mattered, were Gainax.
It also gave Anno a chance to get a head start on working on the finale.

Isaac Watson
Isaac Watson

Isn't telling that your example of fun is from around the first 50 threads? The time between release and camrip got steadily worse, and then afterwards it simply plummeted.

Grayson Phillips
Grayson Phillips

so you didn't get to see the Submarine? or Nemo?

Austin Davis
Austin Davis

it'll be mayhem
But it will be fun
Don't you like fun user?

There is plenty of time for serious discussion later, it will be like Geass sundays.

Parker Moore
Parker Moore

Nadia is about as 3DPD as you can get in an anime character. For good or ill, she's very much a typical teenage girl.
She does do a lot of growing if only because Anno gives her so much room to grow.
And the villains? You mean the Grandis Gang? They're a spoof of the Dorombo Gang from Yatterman and they don't stay villains for long. They go on to be some of the best characters in the show.

Brayden Reed
Brayden Reed

Nope, just.
here is invention
wow invention is cool
invention breaks
wow invention is suck

Repeat ad fucking nauseum.

Tyler White
Tyler White

How many threads did it rank up to again? 300?

Aiden Rodriguez
Aiden Rodriguez

Do you think the current level of obnoxious bickering we have now is fun? Imagine that on an even larger scale. There's nothing fun about that.

Lincoln Howard
Lincoln Howard

cours
What exactly does that entail?

how many episodes were originally going to be made?

Grayson Diaz
Grayson Diaz

Oh yes, got really, irredeemable bad around the time the Evageeks cunts came in and then it became the same shipping bullshit over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
I still find it funny to laugh at Reiheart.

Hunter Smith
Hunter Smith

Most of it comes from the same 3-4 autists in every thread.

Nathaniel Butler
Nathaniel Butler

They're a spoof of the Dorombo Gang from Yatterman
It's not formulaic its a "spoof"

Just because it's a reference doesn't make it good or interesting to watch.

Jaxon Sanchez
Jaxon Sanchez

I think it was a little over 400. It had to be forced down with the help of BRs shitposting and mods finally nuking the threads when everyone finally agreed that yes, the threads needed to stop.

There was also on crybaby autist who kept trying to make more threads, whining about how it wasn't over until the threads reached a "natural death." He wanted to be clear that the only reason the generals were over were because of mods, and that's it.

The funny part is that the generals did reach a natural death several weeks prior when everyone just plain forgot to make a new thread, letting it fall off the board clean.

Isaac Collins
Isaac Collins

at least watch the spaceship scenes.

Michael Green
Michael Green

The Japanese have sometimes subdivided television series and dramas into kūru (クール?), from the French term "cours" for "course", which is a 3-month period usually of 13 episodes. Each kūru generally has its own opening and ending image sequence and song, recordings of which are often sold. A six-month period of 26 episodes is also used for subdivision in some television series.

Asher Stewart
Asher Stewart

A cour is a chunk of the year comprised of 13 weeks that follows pretty concurrently with the natural seasons(winter, spring, summer, fall) and so the term "season" is often used interchangeably, though it's not entirely accurate to anime. "Season" would refer to the number of total episodes ordered for production. Which could just be one cour's worth of episodes, or two cours or even three or four. Most shows nowadays are rarely ordered in seasons of more than one cour.
Nadia was originally planned to be 26 episodes, or two full cours. The extra padding brought it up to 39 episodes, or three full cours.

Liam Nguyen
Liam Nguyen

You sound truly autistic. Better stop watching all anime.

Chase Hill
Chase Hill

A cour
Its cours user
A cours

Jayden Williams
Jayden Williams

Honestly, I don't think Evageeks was too much at fault. They mostly helped out with the translation project, but when they were done they still had their own forums to go back to. The real problem was when tumblr got involved in the translation project, but then they refused to leave. They have no large board or discussion threads to return to, so they just stuck around and shitposted, talking about fanfiction, gay porn, and linking directly to their blogs. If nothing else, we have to take a hardline stance against those faggots; it's not worth it and we'll have plenty of time to translate things without them.

And you can bet they'll be in the generals, only now they won't have an image limit to deter their shitposting. Again, truces and ground rules will be really important if you don't want the generals to be filled to the brim with toilets and trannies.

Jaxson Sanders
Jaxson Sanders

cours
You're right, I just say it in my head and forget the s.
Fucking French. Can never spell anything the way it's pronounced.

Kayden Ward
Kayden Ward

But not all anime have this problem, there are plenty of very original anime.

Matthew Nelson
Matthew Nelson

I waited nearly 4 years to watch 3.33 when it finally came out on Blu Ray, and damn that was a mistake. Planning to watch 4.0 whenever there is a decent rip, probably the Japanese Blu Ray.

Carson Reyes
Carson Reyes

I taken that from wikipedia.

Also I checked and Secret of Blue Water is 39 episodes, the Island Arc starts at episode 23 and the plot gets back on track in episode 35.

Caleb Collins
Caleb Collins

Disregard that

I thought it was about my post, still the episode count is correct.

Isaiah Lopez
Isaiah Lopez

I taken that from wikipedia.
You took it from wikipedia, and let this be a lesson that wikipedia is not always, or even often, entirely correct.

Liam Sanchez
Liam Sanchez

I was in the threads and I just remember an Asukafag spamming scat doujinshi every thread. He claimed to be from Evageeks.

Gabriel Gutierrez
Gabriel Gutierrez

Probably one of the tripfag attentionwhores.
They were a lot of them, and they didn't even translate shit.

Tyler Allen
Tyler Allen

I don't remember that very clearly. I supposed there is the issue that faggots from that forum may look at these threads as a way to let loose in a way they can't over there due to moderation and reputation, so they may be prone to shitposting too. If you try to keep both out, though, you're left with essentially no one to translate.

That really isn't a problem when Evageeks will be working on translations anyway, and we can just steal their finished product when the time comes.

Carter Walker
Carter Walker

reiafag
I was in the threads and I just remember an reiafag spamming scat doujinshi every thread. He claimed to be from Evageeks.

Parker Jones
Parker Jones

And a lot of them were Asukafags too, go figure.
I wish there was a way to ban all waifufags from these threads, things would be a lot better.

Jonathan Rogers
Jonathan Rogers

I remember when the opening scene came out in good quality and got me hype.
That whole space sequence was fun, and as soon as it ends so does my enjoyment of the movie

Anthony Robinson
Anthony Robinson

I wonder how many people on Sup Forums have this exact image saved with this exact filename

Isaac Ortiz
Isaac Ortiz

Also the Movie. why

Kevin Diaz
Kevin Diaz

I actually copied it from another user some time ago, so who knows.

Landon Robinson
Landon Robinson

Because NHK wanted to milk more money out of the franchise without Gainax or Anno involved.
I prefer to pretend that piece of shit never happened.
It's better that way.

Camden Parker
Camden Parker

I prefer to pretend that piece of shit never happened.
It's better that way.

Movie or the show?

Charles Perry
Charles Perry

Movie.
Show is rough around the edges, but it's an old favorite that got me into anime as anime. Which just makes the horribleness of the movie all the worse for me.

Leo Martinez
Leo Martinez

putting EoE separate from NGE
it's just the true ending of the series with the TV ending being an abstract take on what was mentally happening to the characters

Jonathan Robinson
Jonathan Robinson

with the TV ending being an abstract take on what was mentally happening to the characters
Notto disu shitto agen

Liam Green
Liam Green

the original tv series is honestly the best
don't trust anyone if they try to hype you for zeta, it's awful coming off of the original

Ayden Jenkins
Ayden Jenkins

No shit. I just want to see Asuka's perfect ass one last time before I die.

Jason Hughes
Jason Hughes

I want to see Asuka get fucking rekt like she did in EoE.
Funniest Anime scene of all time.

Christian Brown
Christian Brown

am I wrong?
I'm not trying to be a smartass here I've been thinking that was what it was all this time
if I am please tell me the difference
also why is it called "The End of Evangelion" then?

Brayden Lopez
Brayden Lopez

Sick reifag

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross

TV ending is Shinji reaching an understanding and becoming able to accept others and himself (Omedetou sequence)

The "End of Evangelion" is just a name for episodes 25', 26' and One More Final: I need you

In my opinion, this is a sort of "bad end" for Evangelion. Shinji rejects other people, and Instrumentality. He turns inward on himself, as does Asuka, which is why they have a strong enough AT field to materialize after instrumentality. Shinji sees Asuka on the the beach and reacts angrily by choking her (because she in his mind or in Instrumentality) rejected him. She reaches up and touches his face, showing that she accepts Shinji for who he is. Shinji realizes this and breaks down crying (tears of joy). Asuka hates the fact that she was affected heavily emotionally by Shinji, hence (Kimochi warui)

Sorry if this doesn't make sense, I'm quite a bit drunk.

Robert Brooks
Robert Brooks

I'm only interested about what character interaction will happen between Shinji with Misato, and Asuka.

Don't care for anything else. except it to NOT end like the manga. (as it requires little effort on Anno's part, instead of making something new)

Jayden Barnes
Jayden Barnes

A large part of both arguments as I've understood them actually stems from the fact that EoE is actually 25' 26' Omf:iny
Some people see the ' as a signal that they are alternate endings, some see it as proof they are concurrent.

My main issue with the idea that they are concurrent is how different they are thematically. The original ends on a very upbeat note, omf:iny is very somber. To think that they are happening concurrently is in my mind, very silly.

Mason Hernandez
Mason Hernandez

They end at different points, and EoE's ending specifically leaves a lot up to your own interpretation. It becomes a glass half empty/half full sort of scenario.

Ethan Green
Ethan Green

reifag show her pretty ugly

Nolan Johnson
Nolan Johnson

If you can't get past the animation in the original Gundam, watch the 3 movies. Zeta isn't too bad and some prefer it over the original. Double Zeta is pretty though to get through.

Isaac Long
Isaac Long

Kill yourself like Robin Williams did.

Hunter Russell
Hunter Russell

Don't you talk shit about Robin Williams m8.

I'll fuckin cut ya

Connor King
Connor King

Get raped to death like Asuka did.

Xavier Clark
Xavier Clark

God that island arc and Africa arc were worthless. Lets just throw what development that has been made in the trash and just do dumb shit for the next few episodes.

Cameron Flores
Cameron Flores

Do you know which episodes were made using the Korean animation team.

Matthew Martin
Matthew Martin

reifag bulk

Joshua Butler
Joshua Butler

Still looks better than ugly man Asuka.

Benjamin Ramirez
Benjamin Ramirez

determine?

Brayden Flores
Brayden Flores

Rei looks gorgeous there, Asuka looks fucking disgusting like usual.

Aiden Harris
Aiden Harris

Officially, they are different endings. This is what the filmbooks handed at the 1997 screenings said.

Looking purely at the text, they are tonally different as you say, but some people interpret that 26 begins and ends WITHIN 26', which continues for a couple more scenes.

I don't think that's the case at all because the thought processes that lead Shinji into rejecting instrumentality are quite different for each version.

Bentley Rogers
Bentley Rogers

Poor girl suffering from hunger ravaged natural colo

Appearance and internal are better than the monster bitch

Ethan Torres
Ethan Torres

Rei is an unarousing alien shit.

Ryder Clark
Ryder Clark

Asukafags can't even speak English. Even dumber than Asuka himself.

Easton Brown
Easton Brown

Three in total

Gabriel Baker
Gabriel Baker

It starts when the kids arrive on the island.
At first, it's not that bad. Obviously much cheaper production than before and some Looney Tunes-style deformities when it had been played much more straight before. See a lot of stuff like this with very sloppy animation errors. Like how Nadia isn't there in the first shot, but magically appears in the shower in the next.
There are some good bits in there, like Jean getting high on shrooms and episode 25. The character development is rough, but mostly in a positive direction and we see Nadia take some nice strides towards mellowing the fuck out.
It does take a nosedive when the kids leave Lincoln Island(the first island they land on) for the moving Island where happens. A couple episodes of complete shit later, they come across the Red Noah, whose bits are animated on-model and the animation, while minimal, is all well and good. So those were most likely done by Gainax themselves to fit in where needed.
It gets unforgivably bad when they get to the African village. The animation is at its lowest and the character development is all tossed out the window.
Thankfully, that only lasts two episodes and then 34 is a musical recap episode(I don't hate the dub, but this episode is especially painful in English) and then it gets back to the proper story.
But um, to get back to your question, 23 through 34 are the "filler" episodes, done in Korea, notwithstanding the scenes taking place on the Red Noah.

Camden Ward
Camden Ward

I still to this day don't understand why there is so much waifufagging in this series. Asuka is a broken, suicidal, disgusting character which the show takes every measure to thoroughly expose and destroy to the point she doesn't even have any personality, and Rei isn't even an human character- she transcends this petty shit much like Kaworu.

Yet there's thousands upon thousands of words wasted over who is "best girl" as if this was Amagami SS or something.

Clearly, Anno failed.

Ian Ross
Ian Ross

I agree with you on Asuka, absolutely terrible in every way and not even attractive.

But Rei is an absolute goddess and pretty much saves every character in the show on multiple occasions, you don't have to waifufag her but at least admit she is best girl.

Zachary Cook
Zachary Cook

alien bitch do not understand English

Liam Flores
Liam Flores

"she"
It's an alien giant seed with no concept of human emotion, not a girl, dude.

I thought the ending of episode 23 was pretty conclusive with regards to Rei, let alone EoE. But waifufags gotta waifufag I guess.

Camden Phillips
Camden Phillips

Watch the show. Rei definitely has concept of human emotion. It's just that she goes beyond that and becomes something even greater.

Dylan Watson
Dylan Watson

>>142000933
Pretty much, that's why Rei is so great.

Wyatt Torres
Wyatt Torres

Good girl
Just hurt

Christian Hill
Christian Hill

watermelon dress
she got kekd by watermelons so this is her way of trying to get kaji back

Sebastian Perez
Sebastian Perez

That sentence was fine. You're just retarded.

Jaxson Cox
Jaxson Cox

Asuka isn't a girl, Asuka is a man transvestite.

She loves niggers after all

Levi Butler
Levi Butler

Anno: rei is schizophrenic
Synthesis of emptiness Personality

Samuel Morgan
Samuel Morgan

Really man

Zachary Sanders
Zachary Sanders

reminder that gendo was a great dad. shinji ruined everything.

Eli Taylor
Eli Taylor

Yes, Asuka is a man.

Logan Watson
Logan Watson

For the record I think Anno stopped caring about it a long ass time ago.

Ryder Perez
Ryder Perez

Anyway, sAsuka loved Shinji

Indifferent

Henry Howard
Henry Howard

keep telling yourself that. asuka doesent love anyone not even herself. she just wants comfort from others and to see other people suffer in order for her to feel better about herself

Justin Ward
Justin Ward

Real men and monsters

Carter Hall
Carter Hall

we order them in bulk
kek'd

Leo Myers
Leo Myers

I guess thats one way to look at it if you ignore a bunch of things like the evas being part space monsters part dead shinji's mom and everyone on the show being psychologically broken people.

Noah Gray
Noah Gray

Yeah, Asuka really is a monster. Good thing he gets destroyed like the ugly man he is.

Owen Collins
Owen Collins

Nah, you're going to secretly love it.

Sebastian Baker
Sebastian Baker

h i g h t e s t

Aaron Lewis
Aaron Lewis

加持への感情は憧れであり、本当に好きなのはシンジ
Asuka loves Shinji

Xavier Young
Xavier Young

I will never understand this fetish.
Is it just lardwhale fujoushits that sexualize their own obesity?

Mason Russell
Mason Russell

You posted this yesterday and got debunked retard.
Copypasting what some nip said on 2ch isn't going to make anyone here believe your shipping shit. Fuck off.

Grayson Collins
Grayson Collins

The only good thing about these rebuilds is all the Asuka/Mari porn. My dick likes them very much. I mean, a teasing glasses wearing lesbian and a tsundere desperate for affection verbal sparring? hello fetishes. Too bad Shinji's often in the middle of most of them but it's better than faceless fat old men.

Justin Hughes
Justin Hughes

bulk end

Adrian Rogers
Adrian Rogers

nah weird fucks on deviantart who clearly weren't raised properly and become attracted to blobs instead of human figures

Jaxon Moore
Jaxon Moore

Asuka is an ugly transvestite.
Seeing him makes me want to puke, no wonder everyone in the show hates him.

Luke Turner
Luke Turner

Source
2007年9月の「FLASH EX」のエヴァ特集他より

Dylan Gray
Dylan Gray

4.44 is not going to happen.. they gave up on it

Luke Price
Luke Price

Google searching it brings up a 2ch thread. A random person said it, it's not from an official source.

Asukafags lying like usual.

Bentley Sullivan
Bentley Sullivan

the man

Benjamin Sanchez
Benjamin Sanchez

tumblr
Asukafags confirmed for landwhales just like the ugly tranny himself.

Isaac Allen
Isaac Allen

http://dic.pixiv.net/a/%E6%83%A3%E6%B5%81%E3%83%BB%E3%82%A2%E3%82%B9%E3%82%AB%E3%83%BB%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B0%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC.
アスカの明確な想いとは温度差があり彼女は傷ついてしまった。彼女はシンジを異性として意識し、愛情と敵意と呼べる振れ幅の大

A temperature difference is a clear thought of Asuka There she got hurt. She is aware of Shinji as the opposite sex, a large deflection width called a affection and hostility

pixvwikiis Asuka likes Shinji official address
I think this should permit multi-part

Levi Torres
Levi Torres

As usual
reifag

Henry Wood
Henry Wood

It's trolling from The Escapist.
There are followups, each worse than the last.

Jordan Davis
Jordan Davis

But does it say why Asuka is so ugly?
I can't help but barf every time I see his ugly face.

Noah Reyes
Noah Reyes

Then she was told he

Samuel Thompson
Samuel Thompson

I don't speak retard so I can't comprehend what you're saying, but yes, Asuka is an ugly man.

Levi Bailey
Levi Bailey

rei is an ugly

and not man

Sebastian Hernandez
Sebastian Hernandez

These threads are insufferable

At least the Misato one from the other day had a discussion

Ethan Johnson
Ethan Johnson

Because of reifag relationship

very obvious

Josiah Brown
Josiah Brown

who /fuyutsuki/ here?

Evan Barnes
Evan Barnes

Ayyy

Jacob Flores
Jacob Flores

I should never google him. Gendo x Fuyu is just gross.

Parker Edwards
Parker Edwards

iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinakimi no me ni

Christopher Gomez
Christopher Gomez

for trying to ruin Nausicca

Wait what? I haven't heard anything about that?
What was he trying to do?

Landon Cox
Landon Cox

Nobody loves me

Matthew Bell
Matthew Bell

I liked 3.0 for having Shinji hang out over a week or so since the day changed nearly everytime there was a scene at Nerv. A lot better than some naked guy analyzing Shinji and saying he loved him before hijacking Unit 02 in less than a day.

What I liked even more though was how Kaworu thought he knew more than Shinji and got consistently played by Gendo and SEELE and showing he was a cocky little shit whose own death was the result of his arrogance and Shinji being a little shit. Makes the Shinji tears all the sweeter.

Colton James
Colton James

You do know the dude who made eva is just milking you retards dry intil he dies right?

Henry Taylor
Henry Taylor

I know. Gendo ruins all porn.

Adam Murphy
Adam Murphy

1.0 and 2.0 were great starts for a different Evangelion that could have gone serious. But 3.0 plunges the story into such low levels of quality it's hardly redeemable. The characters more or less have no story arc, and are just pandering devices.

Leo Ramirez
Leo Ramirez

thats muh knee grow right there

Anno just needs to stop acting like fucking Shinji and finish the fucking thing like maybe some things in life are just that simple

Adrian Turner
Adrian Turner

1.0 is just BadTV and 2.0 is a poppy super robot harem romcom with little artistic merit. Don't delude yourself.

Jackson Green
Jackson Green

I'm going to marry Asuka-chan!

Jordan Ward
Jordan Ward

haven't been in these threads since 2013
somehow the autism of you faggots has INCREASED with time
Rei is best girl and 3.0 was a good movie, come at me bro

Camden Lee
Camden Lee

Cheap camouflage

Jacob Gonzalez
Jacob Gonzalez

I only post canon images and you only post fake fanart. The ugly man is Asuka. Not even his mother loved him.

Parker Thompson
Parker Thompson

rei has no mother ugly to how someone will love
Even the men abandon her

Sebastian Nelson
Sebastian Nelson

old man

Owen Rodriguez
Owen Rodriguez

Made me so hyped for 3.0. The short prologue clip was the hypest shit I've seen back then, despite the awful cg.

Levi Richardson
Levi Richardson

The characters aren't anything special anyway.

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