Megumi Hayashibara did nothing wrong

Dominic Garcia
Dominic Garcia

Megumi Hayashibara did nothing wrong.

Especially because she was right.

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http://en.rocketnews24.com/2016/05/25/legendary-voice-actress-megumi-hayashibara-laments-derivative-anime-loss-of-1990s-ambition/
Josiah Morris
Josiah Morris

She looks very smug.

Aaron Johnson
Aaron Johnson

Hayashibara is GOAT

Dominic Moore
Dominic Moore

Fuck off back to /jp/ subhuman.

Charles Allen
Charles Allen

Are people gonna be asshurt about this for years a la Miyazaki?

Asher Reyes
Asher Reyes

what happened now?

Lucas Smith
Lucas Smith

“Anime in the ‘90s was overflowing with ambition…Anime [today] which are trying to be similar to previous hits can never be better than the originals. Going forward, I want to be part of projects that aren’t trying to be ‘like’ something that came before.”

Charles Watson
Charles Watson

Just a woman thinking anyone but a few beta orbiters give a shit about her opinion.

Justin Myers
Justin Myers

"Anime will never be like it was in the 90s"
-TEH REI

Josiah Sullivan
Josiah Sullivan

When Tomino, Anno and Miyazaki say it people rage the fuck out and proclaim they are profoundly wrong
When Megumi Hayashibara a girl argues similar sentiments people agree with her, think for a second before melting down and consider that she' might be right.

Well veteran industry people know what to do if they really want to effect change

Leo Miller
Leo Miller

How many anime these days are original content? I think that could be the one area where nostalgiafags might be right, but I don't know what the comparative ratios are like.

Ian Jenkins
Ian Jenkins

so in other words she wants quality over something rushed and uninspired?

that's what people are getting upset about?

Jace Walker
Jace Walker

I'm upset because spergs keep spamming these threads when they shouldn't be here in the first place.

Ayden Gonzalez
Ayden Gonzalez

People are responding as per standard to the claims that "things were better back in the day"

Elijah Bennett
Elijah Bennett

Listen to murrican suggestions like the UN and western fanbase
anime is great again
Easy.

Carson Collins
Carson Collins

an industry professional discussing the state of anime doesn't belong on Sup Forums

fucking what

Thomas Jackson
Thomas Jackson

Why shouldn't she be? Even years past her prime, she's still one of the pre-2000 seiyuu fans will always think of.

And now she just talked about how fucked up the modern anime industry is, and she'll still get to keep her mansion and moneys no matter what the otaku subhumans say.

Alexander Robinson
Alexander Robinson

I don't like old farts telling me what to do and what should I like.

Logan Collins
Logan Collins

It was one statement, not a discussion.
And no, it doesn't. No more than a thread about an anime reviewers opinion does.

Nathan Ward
Nathan Ward

this bitch looks a bit like me mum
JUST

Robert Powell
Robert Powell

It's cause for drama and replies from idiots looking to share their terribly informed opinions, I expect it to be spammed for some time yet.

Joseph Hill
Joseph Hill

She works in the fucking industry, she's not some random fuck on the internet with opinions. Discussing studios, directors, storyboarders, seiyuu, and everything else that literally produces what we watch absolutely belongs on Sup Forums.

Adrian Cox
Adrian Cox

I don't like Sup Forums people telling me what I should like with flimsy bullshit reasoning usually boiling down to because I said so, but guess what, it's gonna happen anyway

David Campbell
David Campbell

your taste is shit. watch more than 30000 anime.

Charles Flores
Charles Flores

Pretty sure this season alone has at least five original series airing. A combination of more shows airing constantly than ever before, and a type of bias with a specific name that I can't think of right now are what make people think anime is especially shit right now, when it's more or less just as shit as it's ever been.

Liam Kelly
Liam Kelly

Discussing them, yes. Discussing their opinions? No.
Also, whining about things being better in the past is a completely worthless act that immature children do.

Gabriel Morgan
Gabriel Morgan

/a/s belief in what is allowed posting is context sensitive to whatever shitposting it feels needs to take place at any given second. It's all meaningless and who cares what some random asshole says is allowed or not anyway unless it's just so far removed from the topic of anime so as to obviously not belong

Landon Torres
Landon Torres

Their opinions on anime are directly related to their job, you ridiculous faggot.

Mason Howard
Mason Howard

Exactly

Hudson Green
Hudson Green

fuck off to /co/ you fuck

Ian Parker
Ian Parker

I'm sure you're right, but there are also a lot more shows coming out these days than there used to. I'm willing to believe that, proportionally, anime used to be more about selling itself than being an ad for a manga or light novel.

Angel Hernandez
Angel Hernandez

it's a "moeshit kiled anime" thread

Leo Scott
Leo Scott

Media has always done this. It's nothing new. It fluctuates over time with highs and lows. Don't care.

Logan Hall
Logan Hall

I can't say I disagree with Lina's opinion. But then I'm an oldfag and feel like I'm not exactly the target audience of anime any more. I just hope we all find shows we can like that are worth the watching!

Kayden Allen
Kayden Allen

She's right

Jacob Barnes
Jacob Barnes

wahhh ewwfwing use 2 b betr when i woz yunger
Also, not an argument.

Grayson Kelly
Grayson Kelly

I just love her even more now.

Juan Davis
Juan Davis

Distort what's being said entirely towards trigger topics and ideas in order to shitpost

Sup Forums tactics 10 being enforced

Benjamin Cook
Benjamin Cook

Asuka > Rei anyway.

Cameron Butler
Cameron Butler

What's not an argument? That her opinions related to her job directly affect what she will do in anime in the future? Don't try to come off as smart m9, it doesn't work

Andrew Davis
Andrew Davis

Wrong, nigger.

Ayden Howard
Ayden Howard

Who cares if it's original content if it's shit.

Jack Powell
Jack Powell

posts a pic of literally how she isn't portrayed in Eva.
get lost.

Jonathan Ross
Jonathan Ross

OC is actively trying to sell itself. Most adaptations are a bare minimum-style production since they're ads for something else and their sales don't really matter. The only way a studio makes back their money on OC, usually, is BD sales.

Eli Nguyen
Eli Nguyen

Whatever she does in the future will have absolutely 0 influence over the anime industry.

Adam Nguyen
Adam Nguyen

Anime is way better now than It's ever before. This bitch need to get that dildo out of her ass.

Blake Richardson
Blake Richardson

Now?

Anthony Taylor
Anthony Taylor

kek you win friend, I can't believe I responded for this long. I should have known it was bait several replies back.

Wyatt White
Wyatt White

i don't agree therefore it's bait
erin. simply erin

Ayden Hall
Ayden Hall

these days I think theres a real problem with basing anime on decently popular manga but also doing a super half assed job with it and half of the time the manga isn't even close to complete so they pull some anime orignal shit that is usually terrible

Dominic Watson
Dominic Watson

Oh, you mean like how half of all the shows in a given season are either CGDCT, magical school harems, or idolshit? Yeah, it's really a brave new world out there.

Cooper Robinson
Cooper Robinson

There's been more demand for anime now than ever. Back in the 90's there'd be at most 10 shows airing a season. Now there's what, 30 a season?

Joshua Edwards
Joshua Edwards

I could see that. But I don't think that it's necessarily a bad thing, because it seems like it provides a mutually beneficial relationship between both industries that injects money into anime and allows studios to stay afloat with low risk productions

Asher Flores
Asher Flores

nitpicking
Stop.

Brody Richardson
Brody Richardson

She's right. Old anime is only good because it has nostalgia behind it. To transcend old anime they must create new original anime that's even better than the old anime.

Leo Morgan
Leo Morgan

Absolutely. I think anime as a whole is better than ever, but I can see where she's coming from, maybe, when she says that a lot of projects feel like they're just imitating the success of the past instead of trying to be their own thing, and that she doesn't want to be a part of those kinds of shows any more.

Ian Kelly
Ian Kelly

Actually, 2016 is shaping up to be the year with the most shows directed at women

Ayden Gutierrez
Ayden Gutierrez

But there's just so many nits to pick. Especially in your shitty taste.

Oliver Evans
Oliver Evans

So everything is either fujoshit or josei?

Lucas Russell
Lucas Russell

better.

Leo Ortiz
Leo Ortiz

josei
I wish

Angel Evans
Angel Evans

How about something from EoE?

Grayson Johnson
Grayson Johnson

people actually expect """""quality""""" anime from nips
My sides

Carson Reed
Carson Reed

I wasn't trying to hide it.
Really though, it's only natural for people to become dull and bored when they spend so much time with something and so closely. She's entitled to her opinion as is everyone else, but it doesn't make it true or even worth mentioning in any capacity.
Also I hope she drops dead soon.

Aiden Murphy
Aiden Murphy

Is Orange josei or shoujo? Also is the anime in good hands?

Jeremiah Powell
Jeremiah Powell

She really got into her character in mardock scramble. I remember her crying because of it on a stream.

Chase Roberts
Chase Roberts

Shoujo. The staff seem okay, I guess.

Wyatt Bailey
Wyatt Bailey

She also whined about seiyuu industry when back then she helped and played her part in creating the current problems.
She could've have said no when her agecy tried to idolize her but nope, "muh extra pocket money".

Hudson Butler
Hudson Butler

That's fair. Every work is derivative, but anime seems like it has a major problem with shamelessly recycling cliches, set pieces, and concepts

Samuel Green
Samuel Green

So what you're saying is, she regrets her decision and would like to make the industry better for up and coming performers?

Isaac Powell
Isaac Powell

Wow, it's almost like she was young and foolish then and now she knows better

Dominic Lee
Dominic Lee

white knighting
Get out.

Gabriel Martin
Gabriel Martin

Fuck off edgelord.

Wyatt Foster
Wyatt Foster

Is it really white knighting if you're just pointing out a retard's stupidity?

Blake Bell
Blake Bell

oh no, seiyuu are making more money!
better go whine about it

Gavin Diaz
Gavin Diaz

My post K-ON!! anime is NOT shit and it's NOT generic! This grandma should just shut up!

All you morons should just eat your tendies and get a nap or something.

Isaac Campbell
Isaac Campbell

It's is when you're trying to justify her bullshit.

Logan Foster
Logan Foster

They should shut up. Fuck them for trying to kill my escapism.

Luis Cox
Luis Cox

eat your tendies
Fuck off back to whatever board you're from.

Jayden James
Jayden James

It's bullshit to change your mind as you get more experience? You seem really mad. Did a jap girl hurt you?

Seems like the more common argument is that it results in seiyuu getting dropped from the industry when they're still relatively young, which is a shame.

Elijah Cox
Elijah Cox

It's bullshit to change your mind as you get more experience? You seem really mad. Did a jap girl hurt you?
You're not even hiding it anymore. Fuck off.

Ryder Cooper
Ryder Cooper

Yukarin and Horie are doing fine. I doubt any seiyuu that becomes successful for some time starves after that. If they stop doing anime roles they probably just do work in other places like the video game industry that are probably more profitable.

Aiden Cooper
Aiden Cooper

I'm honestly confused what's got you so butthurt. Why not discuss the ideas instead of the person? Do basic Enlightenment ideals elude you?

You could be right, I'm no expert here. I'm just repeating my basic understanding of why someone would object to the idol model.

Nathaniel Rogers
Nathaniel Rogers

Why not discuss the ideas instead of the person?
Ok. This person is full of shit and has no idea what she's talking about.

Parker Baker
Parker Baker

You fucked it up again man. You're talking about people instead of ideas. It was a good attempt though, I rate it 2/5.

Evan Russell
Evan Russell

Her Iideas are shit.

Landon Taylor
Landon Taylor

Is that seriously it? She doesn't sound like a bitter washed-up hack ala Miyazaki and Anno at all - wanting more originality is not a bad thing.

Angel Ortiz
Angel Ortiz

She's not complaining about those two tough.

Luke Anderson
Luke Anderson

Ok, we're a little closer here. You said that the ideas were bad. You still linked them to a person, but we can be forgiving since it's probably your first try. Now try to articulate some reasons for why those ideas might be shit, and you'll be well on your way to contributing something useful to a conversation.

Zachary Ramirez
Zachary Ramirez

Because modern anime is not shit. It's far from perfect but it's not shit.

Luke Sanders
Luke Sanders

Originality means following murrican ways. We can't have that.

Tyler Jackson
Tyler Jackson

Oh man, you were so close. You made a common beginner's mistake right at the end, where you substituted your opinion on the idea for what the idea actually is. Let's review. What you said the idea is:

modern anime is shit

What the actual view is:

Anime [today] which are trying to be similar to previous hits can never be better than the originals

They're similar, I grant, but definitely distinct. Try tackling this exact sentence head on.

Christopher Wood
Christopher Wood

Inferno cop exists so she's wrong.

Bentley Adams
Bentley Adams

“Because of the fast pace of the industry, it’s common to fill voice actors schedules with as much work as possible, get them up on stage, and build up all the buzz you can. That’ll make you feel like you’re an absolutely essential individual, but in just three years all that could change. I don’t want companies to go chasing after small yet quick and easy, profits, but they don’t really have any intention of developing voice actors long-term.”

She's mainly talking in the context of VA industry though.

http://en.rocketnews24.com/2016/05/25/legendary-voice-actress-megumi-hayashibara-laments-derivative-anime-loss-of-1990s-ambition/

Once again, people are arguing about thing taken out of context and of which isn't even the main point.

Daniel Wright
Daniel Wright

Hey, that was an actual refutation of her point! Great, now you can actually have a dialogue with people.

Liam Cruz
Liam Cruz

Can someone PLEASE make a meme pic with her pic and the quote?

Cooper Hall
Cooper Hall

implying murica produces anything original

u wut m8?

Grayson Peterson
Grayson Peterson

I would but I don't feel like it.

Ian Nguyen
Ian Nguyen

Why would people care about context in funposting threads?

Jonathan Cooper
Jonathan Cooper

Can you fuck off back to rebbit?

Daniel Ramirez
Daniel Ramirez

That's how you shitpost though. Like 101 even. Honestly I've just kind of given up trying to reason or argue with people on Sup Forums, I just kind of laugh at all the crazy shit they say and try to predict what crazy shit people will say next based on established shitposting patterns.

Logan Kelly
Logan Kelly

No.

Parker Davis
Parker Davis

It obviously needs to be replaced with something far more extreme that she never said and then posted and propagated as much as possible so it catches on as "the truth" like the Miyazaki thing.

Levi Powell
Levi Powell

There's your answer.

Joseph Cook
Joseph Cook

Enjoying Sup Forums is mostly a numbers game for me. You hit enough threads, eventually you'll find the one where people are having a real conversation.

Jacob White
Jacob White

Answer of what?

Joshua Turner
Joshua Turner

However, encouraging this type of threads also mean misleading genuine retards who go around parroting the rubbish and thereby reducing your chance of proper discussions.

Austin Long
Austin Long

someone post the miyazaki image.
I need it for reference.

Joshua Russell
Joshua Russell

Whether you're straight or not

David Morales
David Morales

Literally can be found on google.

Daniel Jenkins
Daniel Jenkins

shit quads desu.

Lucas Rivera
Lucas Rivera

I've given up on any type of influence over Sup Forums as a whole. Too many people came all at once and developed their own culture instead of assimilating. I can only try to find the good stuff left.

Luke Morales
Luke Morales

best quads in ages

Lincoln Barnes
Lincoln Barnes

What a pretentious bitch.

Dominic Rodriguez
Dominic Rodriguez

DORAAAAAAAAAAAGU SREEEEEEEEEEIVU

Jaxon Ward
Jaxon Ward

There's not really a whole lot that can be done about it though. Shit gonna get said, that's my new mantra.

It has been known to happen once or twice a week. I've kind of learned what to avoid out of hand though, like if the OP image is Fate related that might as well be like the international symbol for radioactive material

Matthew Campbell
Matthew Campbell

Fate/Stay Night and Monogatari are trash

Adam Diaz
Adam Diaz

That's why you hit multiple boards. I usually find one good thread a day, but that's because I spend way too much time here.

Jeremiah Foster
Jeremiah Foster

So says Haibara, how many episodes is it at now?

Tyler Walker
Tyler Walker

I've somehow found solace in /an/. Generally speaking the bigger boards are fucked, it's the smaller boards that still have decent stuff.

Angel Cox
Angel Cox

The anime community as a whole seems to have been hit with a massive influx of prolific and ungodly stupid shitposters that just want to be stupid at each other and need to be heard some time around late 2013 and it's really only gotten worse with time. I've just kind of come to accept that 95% of what goes on in online anime communities is just pure grade shitposting and that's just how it's going to be from now on. There's really only so much you can say or do about it when the people that are doing it aren't even listening because that would defeat the purpose of what they're trying to do. I wonder what Megumi Hayashibara would have to say about the fan community, frankly I wish more industry people would stand up to it once in a while like that one guy from old Gainax that compared reading 2ch commentary to putting your face right up against an anus and inhaling deeply. Honestly if anime's current stock of fans were any better I think the medium would be encourage to up it's standards as a whole again but they're not and they might as well be sending mixed messages and feedback half the time too.

Caleb Rogers
Caleb Rogers

Somebody is going to flip their shit on you for even suggesting this even though it makes sense for people to have more than one specified interest.

Mason Carter
Mason Carter

How long till she gets the "flu"?

Zachary King
Zachary King

Wasn't that guy forced to resign? Won't be happening again anytime soon.

James Harris
James Harris

It took some time, since I had to bone up on my classics, but /lit/ almost always has serious discussion going on somewhere. It's a level of elitism that I wish Sup Forums still had.

Landon Bell
Landon Bell

Shit font.

Parker Myers
Parker Myers

Anime currently appeals to crazed idol fan fantatic types who like buying shit so they can attend events and then you hear stories about them going all stabby stabby on their favorite idols at events. As the saying goes if you play with fire...

Matthew Cox
Matthew Cox

TFW Megumi voiced Lina fucking Inverse and has to look at all the "I WAS A HIKKINEET WHO WAS TELEPORTED TO A GENERIC FANTASY WORLD WHERE ALL THE GIRLS WANT MY DICK" anime plaguing the airwaves

Andrew Powell
Andrew Powell

What's the Miyazaki font then? looks like Arial

Jose Kelly
Jose Kelly

Looks ugly Corean as fuck.
I guess I understand why the other slant eyes hate them.

Carson Gonzalez
Carson Gonzalez

if you unironically enjoy modern anime you belong to reddit

Evan Lee
Evan Lee

Amen.

Levi Walker
Levi Walker

The chick he stabbed wasn't even an idol.

Joseph Long
Joseph Long

she was an up and comer idol from what I heard

Eli Lewis
Eli Lewis

Nope, she was a singer songwriter (aka guitar playing singer) that was small-time and only played at small events/shows. She acted in a few things and stage plays too.

Jordan Ward
Jordan Ward

Honestly, if Megumi wanted to help modern anime, she shouldn't have gone into semi retirement for 15 years. While most seiyuu can't help shape the direction of anime, she was one of the few who could. Just by her being attached to a project, that show could have gotten a bigger budget and tons of marketing.

But that aside, there was still plenty of good shows that came out without her name on it. So I'm getting a little tired of so many generalizations from these people in the industry. Yes, there's plenty of shitty shows now. But there also was back in the 80s and 90s. A few Megumi was a part of. Plus, even with Megumi coming back, the last season of Slayers was horrible. Why isn't she speaking out against that?

Jeremiah White
Jeremiah White

Ironic that you claim to be tired of generalizations when you're spouting shit based off half baked knowledge parroted by anons.

Anthony Mitchell
Anthony Mitchell

Go ahead and point out what parts I was 'parroting'. And explain why they're wrong.

Daniel Moore
Daniel Moore

Do you even know what the word irony means or are you just spouting a word you heard from others?

Thomas Mitchell
Thomas Mitchell

It's legit irony. Not even retarded american irony, actual irony.

Asher Perry
Asher Perry

its legit irony
not retarded American irony
Only irony in this thread is you m8.

Joshua White
Joshua White

I just wanted a serious or comical fantasy show,not these LN filledwith mmmorpgor self-insert bullshit.

Jonathan Rivera
Jonathan Rivera

Well you can become beggars and choosers user

Sad but true

Nathaniel Martin
Nathaniel Martin

Then stop watching what Sup Forums recommends and try some of the other fantasy shows.

Levi Watson
Levi Watson

Anime [today] which are trying to be similar to previous hits can never be better than the originals.
How can she say this with a straight face after having worked on Evangelion?

Benjamin Gonzalez
Benjamin Gonzalez

How can she say this with a straight face after having worked on Slayers?
Fixed.

Benjamin Walker
Benjamin Walker

I know its the cool thing to hate on popular things, but both Eva and Slayers were plenty original. They took obvious inspiration from previous works, but inspiration is not the same thing as imitation.

Something like Nadia would be closer to copying a previous work.

Gavin Gutierrez
Gavin Gutierrez

Agree 50%.

Yes that is going on today, but it was also going on in the 90s there were lots of shows that wanted to be the next big thing from the 80s. How many Gundam sequels came out in the 90s?

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