Why is Fate one of the most beloved franchises in Japan?

Henry Robinson
Henry Robinson

Why is Fate one of the most beloved franchises in Japan?

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John Gutierrez
John Gutierrez

because the VN is really really good and has spin-offs for everyone.

Liam Collins
Liam Collins

Wide variety of waifus, edge, gains the "muh deep animu" group with "muh ideals". Endless extra content satisfying all other needs like maho shojo. Succesfully achieved the ultimate female design with Saber. And finally, the most genius premise, who doesn't like legendary figures fighting each other in a battle royale?

Brody Hernandez
Brody Hernandez

I'm just curious about how many casual fans realize it's a lewd VN. I wonder how they react when they find out.

Jason Evans
Jason Evans

Makai Tensei does the resurrection thing way better, and it's a full-fledged novel.

Joseph Cooper
Joseph Cooper

Because it's one of the few gook series that actually put the effort into building an interesting story and lore, has good characters, and isn't littered with plot holes and filler.

Josiah Diaz
Josiah Diaz

You mean secondaries? Becuase I can't imagine that even the people who read Realta Nua aren't at least aware of the existence of the lewd.

Nasu's scenes are part of the charm, I'm not sure if it's mirrormoon's tl that makes them so hilarious though. Wonder if they post Nasu's literary gems of erotica on 2ch.

Thomas Perry
Thomas Perry

You're kidding right? Watching Fate/Zero and Stay night left a bad taste in my mouth and almost turned me of anime.

The sheer level of circular arguments and sophistry that fills every episode is mind numbing. It's an anime about the greatest heroes of all time coming together to battle for the holy grail and yet they just stand around bitching. It was like watching DBZ all over again, except it was shit.

Nathaniel Wood
Nathaniel Wood

Nips have horrible taste. We did get Prisma Ilya out of the franchise, but the nips don't care much for that.

Levi Kelly
Levi Kelly

STOP
WATCHING
FATE/STAY NIGHT
ANIME
READ
THE
VN

Nathaniel Campbell
Nathaniel Campbell

Nigga I ain't reading no VN about the Arthurian legend. Shit is boring as fuck and it's been done over and over again.

Cameron Russell
Cameron Russell

watching F/Z first

You deserve it

Parker Lee
Parker Lee

But the vn is awful

Hunter Barnes
Hunter Barnes

then stop bitching about shitty adaptations.

Ryan Lee
Ryan Lee

VN is really really good

Elijah Davis
Elijah Davis

He's bitching about the dialogue and you're telling him to go read more dialogue?

Ethan Perry
Ethan Perry

maybe when it gets a better translation, which is never

Cooper Butler
Cooper Butler

nips
good taste
Choose one. Now you have your answer

Lucas Stewart
Lucas Stewart

Fuck you, you can't make me. It's my right as a human being to bitch about pieces of entertainment that fail to fully meet my expectations.

Samuel Anderson
Samuel Anderson

Why is Jojo one of the most beloved franchises in Japan?

Joshua Ortiz
Joshua Ortiz

What about this isn't awesome?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghhC7V6Kuk8

Carter Scott
Carter Scott

Because Nasu doesn't create story. He creates a world which contains infinity of possible stories. That's why we never run out of discussions.

Hudson Barnes
Hudson Barnes

Because it's creative, unlike Fate

Brody Robinson
Brody Robinson

/thread

Juan Cruz
Juan Cruz

beloved franchises in Japan
beloved

Justin Gutierrez
Justin Gutierrez

It was literally the first good manga series.

Angel Morales
Angel Morales

Because it's unique, over the top and self-aware. It's split into completely different parts, preventing it from reaching Naruto and Bleach levels of idiocy. Stands are also the most genius battle system ever.

Luis Ortiz
Luis Ortiz

That's a four minute video and they stop repeatedly to spout nonsensical rhetoric at each other.

This is a classic example of an anime reaching for depth that it cannot support with story alone.

Leo Hill
Leo Hill

The premise and the opening was really good.
Until they removed rin as mc and shoehorned shitrou there.
It doesnt help that being the male mc in a typical japanese game/anime bends the girls' wills and gravitate towards him meaninglessly, which ultimately makes it shit.
If they kept it about the war instead of endlessly repeating a lame story of a faggot and then making him mary sue, it may have been really good.
The game is literally repeating his same backstory every fucking day and his constant chatting of his lame 'ideal'.

Luke Gray
Luke Gray

Do you even pose?

Nathaniel Harris
Nathaniel Harris

reading a VISUAL novel
Are you retarded?

Gavin Hernandez
Gavin Hernandez

I bet you loved Mahoyo

Brody Murphy
Brody Murphy

The worst part was the fact that the fight with himself was never strong enough in the first place. By that I mean the entire arc surrounding his own self doubt left me wondering why Archer was such a faggot.

"I can't save every single soul in existence, therefore I will kill myself and doom thousands" way to fucking go champ. Good deal of sense in that.

Isaac Peterson
Isaac Peterson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pOwA3g4WDA

Logan Gomez
Logan Gomez

I appreciate your effort and I am not denying that there were good scenes. They just don't make up for the rest of the anime. It's like reading a book where you hate all the character arcs but one, and you keep reading because you know eventually you have to get around to the only person you like. All too soon though, you're back onto some boring fag you don't care about.

Bentley Wright
Bentley Wright

The VN isn't particularly special, I understand that it's usually people's first VN but the only part really worth reading was heaven's feel and even then the pacing in all routes is absolute shit, let me break down a day in the VN:

Shiro gets up contemplates his struggle to be a hero for an hour then makes breakfast
School where the only plot points are some stupid foreboding shit
If he's past the going to school part he literally just fucks around all day and nothing happens aside from dating sim stuff
In the evening or late night some weird crazy shit happens which either takes place outside his house or at/around shrine
Shiro makes dinner
repeat
throw in some occasional info dumps from either Rin/Kirei and that's about it

James Reyes
James Reyes

JoJo is the only anime that doesn't pissed me off when it comes to asspulls.

It's fucking hilarious.

Jacob Rivera
Jacob Rivera

This whole fight was amazing. Jojo never feels like it's cheating you, all you can do is sit back and be impressed.

Thomas Brooks
Thomas Brooks

What 'dating sim' stuff?

Colton Davis
Colton Davis

This. Oh my god the amount of SoL and repetition kills the enjoyment, especially if you don't particularly like Shiro.

It wouldn't kill Nasu to not start every goddamn day from the morning.

Lincoln Roberts
Lincoln Roberts

Shiro
This is kinda like calling a dude Jac when his name is Jack

Michael Butler
Michael Butler

Maybe he shouldn't have such a shitty name then.

Austin Williams
Austin Williams

Spending time with Saber in dojo, talking to Rin, outings etc.

Wyatt Long
Wyatt Long

that last pic

Jack Morris
Jack Morris

Is it? I know they won't stop pumping out Saber figures, and I'm ok with that, but is it really beloved?

Xavier Roberts
Xavier Roberts

If new Fate stuff comes out faster than you can post on Sup Forums, then yes.

Landon Jenkins
Landon Jenkins

It has Saber

Luke Brooks
Luke Brooks

"I can't save every single soul in existence, therefore I will kill myself and doom thousands"
Good work completely missing the point of Archer's problem, retard.

Evan Gomez
Evan Gomez

If you'd like to express the dilemma of his royal edginess go ahead. Dude got what he wanted and later realised his ideal was exactly that, an ideal. His was the most boring of characters in the whole series.

Andrew Diaz
Andrew Diaz

It's not about the inability of saving people.
It's the fact that his job isn't actually helping people directly, but just MURDER MURDER MURDER.

Cameron Cooper
Cameron Cooper

It's the top Visual Novel in Japan.

Christopher Hernandez
Christopher Hernandez

His problem being he couldn't save everyone because he had to kill to do it. It was moronic to become petulant and distraught when you realise that making weapons and using them isn't the key to greater peace. Shirou/Archer was a dumb fucking character to begin with. His foster dad, while edgy as fuck, was far better.

Ian Thompson
Ian Thompson

Zero baby

Ah, everything makes sense now.

Nathan Anderson
Nathan Anderson

because elevens have shit taste

Asher Lewis
Asher Lewis

I'm bored so I'll bite. Stay night was shithouse. Zero was better and had more realistic and adult themes. Both weren't anything special outside of the casting for the dub.

Isaac Myers
Isaac Myers

When your ideal is saving everybody (an ideal to which Shirou is able to occasionally compromise on), but what you're constantly forced to do is compromise without the saving part, it's no wonder you end up a jaded angry and resentful person. Worse when the shitty situation you have been put in, is ultimately your own fault.
Then you get to meet your old, idealistic self, no wonders you want to strangle that naive retard.

Yes, Kerry wouldn't have got any problems sharing EMIYA fate, but Kerry is also a less human character, and frankly a lot less interesting.

Chase Peterson
Chase Peterson

Zero was better and had more realistic and adult themes

Name one of those themes. The how to rule "discussion"? Kiritsugu's manchildren struggle? How to realize your cuck fantasy starring kariya?

Xavier Allen
Xavier Allen

Different folks, different strokes. I won't deny Archer his reasons for being angsty. It just amazed me that Shirou and Archer both managed to be so different and yet both so unlikeable.

I said the themes were more realistic and adult. I didn't say they were master pieces of plot and storytelling. It's not an anime I'd recommend to anyone for the plot.

Caleb Wood
Caleb Wood

How to realize your cuck fantasy starring kariya?

You should be a comedian

Benjamin Bennett
Benjamin Bennett

Again, name one theme that is a bit realistic OR mature.

Christian Garcia
Christian Garcia

How about devoting yourself to someone who has given you purpose. The desperate sacrifice of one's life for vengeance. Or even the dialogue between Rider and four eyes. Where a scared little bitch learns to stand on his own two feet, such that he can stand up to even Gilgamesh himself?

Stay night had the depth of a crush plastic cup my comparison.

Chase Moore
Chase Moore

How about devoting yourself to someone who has given you purpose. The desperate sacrifice of one's life for vengeance.

Something done 1000+ times already. The lack of justification and development of the theme doesn't make it realistic .
Where a scared little bitch learns to stand on his own two feet, such that he can stand up to even Gilgamesh himself?
And that's realistic or mature because?
Stay night had the depth of a crush plastic cup my comparison.

It baffles me how the average anime fan can't understand the plot of a porn game.

Jeremiah Sanchez
Jeremiah Sanchez

and thats how you found a 12 yrs old in a +18 website
Kill yourself, dipshit.

Gabriel Roberts
Gabriel Roberts

how dare you say bad things about the VN
Man, what a fanbase.

Joseph Rivera
Joseph Rivera

To be fair Waver and kirei are the best zero characters and the last one still has his best scene at the end of stay night when you understand why he wants to awake angra.

The themes in stay night are ok really the real problem is that you need to see the novel as a whole and not only as 3 different routes in a vn so in the end the adaptations never are going to tell the whole story and develope the themes as they should.

Jordan Miller
Jordan Miller

But Makai Tensei lacked luck

Angel Jones
Angel Jones

Battles and stando powers are creative and unique. Rather than those typical chuuni eyes or arm powers.

James Morgan
James Morgan

What isn't creative about Gilgamesh's powers?

Grayson Rodriguez
Grayson Rodriguez

have lots of weapons and shoot them at the enemy
disguise them as legendary weapons to look less bland

Andrew Hernandez
Andrew Hernandez

sword spam
every NP ever

It sucks for battles and tension. Most stands have ridiculous limits and most of them are seemingly useless but Araki manages to employ them in creative ways to set the scene and create fights that have you on the edge of your seat.

Henry Perry
Henry Perry

why is GuP so incredibly successful in Japan?

Aiden Mitchell
Aiden Mitchell

interest in military stuff is high
cute girls doing ___
crazy action
diverse and likeable cast

Connor Gray
Connor Gray

I didn't watch it, but mix of tanks and cute girls already sounds amazing.

Ryan Collins
Ryan Collins

So sort of like Wheel of Time with Mat?

Owen Adams
Owen Adams

That's Muv Luv

Angel Smith
Angel Smith

Kariya's MO really does read like /r9k/ fanfic.

My woman was taken by that evil chad even though I'm such a gentlemen. I'll join this competition, kick his ass at his own game and save her daughter, that way she'll love me and jump my dick. I'd be a way better father to her as well.

Mason Hill
Mason Hill

Hey now, Rand had some good scenes

Luis Johnson
Luis Johnson

is that from the remastered deen version airing now?

Levi Reed
Levi Reed

S-Sorry S-Shirou about muh muscular build
Is just as much of a waif as every other female character

U wot

Jacob Hernandez
Jacob Hernandez

because they love shit?
come on, is not that hard.

Oliver Rivera
Oliver Rivera

By otaku

Alexander Garcia
Alexander Garcia

tbf, Kariya isn't the one-dimensional selfish cuck everyone makes him out to be.
He gave up on Aoi, because he didn't want her to end up like worm food (like his mother did).

also later on he had his brain literally eaten out by worms, which tends to fuck up someone's judgement and logical thinking a tiiiny bit.
things like that tends to fuck you up

Josiah Ward
Josiah Ward

This. Fate/Accel event had him saner because he wasn't at last stages of being wormfood and gave his hand to save Sakura and realizes killing Tokiomi wouldn't help any. Iskandar made him sure for his men to take him to the hospital, so he'll live and Sakura will have a caretaker. He went off the deep end when he was slowly eaten by worms.

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