Is this the closest this children's show has gotten to feeling like an actual...

Adrian Butler
Adrian Butler

Is this the closest this children's show has gotten to feeling like an actual standard anime?

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.change.org/p/pokemon-bring-serena-to-the-alola-region-with-ash
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=1623
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKmY7tN--mY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWtBDuxrcS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg5P7rRGp5w
Wyatt Perez
Wyatt Perez

All anime is a children's show.

Christian Gomez
Christian Gomez

feel like an anime

I bet you're one of those people who try to say RWBY, SU, and Korra are anime

Isaiah Gray
Isaiah Gray

yamero with that "satoshi" wtf

Justin Barnes
Justin Barnes

Satoshi
It's ASH goddamn it

Nolan Howard
Nolan Howard

fuck is this
fuck is that

Bentley Lewis
Bentley Lewis

ash you broke her heart you heartless asshole

Elijah Lee
Elijah Lee

/thread

Camden Fisher
Camden Fisher

ash doesn't give a shit about anyone, he leaves people and pokemon forever and I bet they miss him alot.

Noah Wilson
Noah Wilson

implying
gets mad at your crush for being a little bitch and throw snowballs at him
storm off and act all pissed off
snowstorm kicks up
pretend you don't care when everyone wants to go look for him but lose composure in like 3 seconds and go
can't find him
start crying and blaming yourself
Ash has her around his finger and he doesn't even know it.

Liam Robinson
Liam Robinson

it's a /vp/ shilling their low tier cartoon on Sup Forums episode

Ian Reed
Ian Reed

It's just the shitposter.

Lincoln Rodriguez
Lincoln Rodriguez

Is this after failing a league match?

Anthony Cook
Anthony Cook

angst over not being able to control greninja fusion before and during the 8th gym

Daniel Hill
Daniel Hill

/vp/thread/26490677#p26491924

Reminder that this is the kind of idiot we can find on /vp/.

Adrian Morales
Adrian Morales

Yelling to you're waifu
ISHYGDDT

Bentley Robinson
Bentley Robinson

After not being able to control the frogs mega evolution

Jeremiah Cooper
Jeremiah Cooper

Hentai is also anime.

Dominic Hughes
Dominic Hughes

Not even watching it because ash will fail as usual, but I love lurking for serena art

Austin Cruz
Austin Cruz

what are adult cartoons

Michael Bell
Michael Bell

ISHYGDDT
Somehow this meme became old and I didn't even notice.

Adrian Parker
Adrian Parker

you're

Angel Cooper
Angel Cooper

I expected a confession not garbage drama
/vp/

Ethan Rodriguez
Ethan Rodriguez

I don't see anything wrong with that post.

Charles Hughes
Charles Hughes

Ash couldn't get it up?

Adrian Jenkins
Adrian Jenkins

Gotta say, the production quality for this has improved drastically since its early days.

Isaac Phillips
Isaac Phillips

Pic related is OP. He keeps trying to force these garbage threads on a weekly, sometimes daily basis, and when enough people tell him to fuck off, he goes crazy.

Joseph Ramirez
Joseph Ramirez

Again, this is what OP is trying to force on Sup Forums.

The Anime General on /vp/ is full of underage that like Naruto and they want to bring that to Sup Forums.

Cameron Murphy
Cameron Murphy

ISHYGDDT
2011+5
I shiggily doo da diggily day

Nolan Richardson
Nolan Richardson

No. The early series was actually fun and creative this is just garbage romance shit with the back drop of a generic show designed to sale video games. Pokemon is dead and hasn't be relevent anime-wise as well as video game-wise for nearly a decade now.

Brayden Ramirez
Brayden Ramirez

/vp/ autists think this is captivating character drama

Samuel Martin
Samuel Martin

Top Serena, she's not going to Aloa region

Robert Wright
Robert Wright

Careful, you'll attract the spam report squad.

David Ortiz
David Ortiz

You stupid fucks, this isn't going to go anywhere and anyone with an ounce of intelligence realises that.
Ash should have won the indigo league and then given us a new hero for every generation, like precure but no, we have to follow this retard as he does exactly the same thing every fucking area.
I honestly wish Serena would win the Ashbowl because then it'd finally be over and we could have a new protagonist

Christopher Kelly
Christopher Kelly

Hello shitposter.

Elijah Flores
Elijah Flores

My sides
https://www.change.org/p/pokemon-bring-serena-to-the-alola-region-with-ash

John Baker
John Baker

I'm impressed. This is almost like how he acted when he lost against Ritchie in the first league. I thought they forgot how he used to be a bratty overconfident but lovable shitter

Jose Peterson
Jose Peterson

Do you prefer style over substance? Fuck off back to your containment board.

John Myers
John Myers

Gonna have to agree. His argument is retarded, but not his emotions on the scene.

Robert Johnson
Robert Johnson

I thought they forgot how he used
They did, which is why this is a forced development.

120+ episodes of bland, uninteresting mary sue who's never wrong, only for him to go through the same character arc he's gone through dozens of times, and faggots eat it up.

Christian Turner
Christian Turner

That wasn't the argument. The argument was "good animation", not about style nor emotions. XY destroys all previous season. That's it. End of the line. You're just moving goalposts like the retard that cannot make the difference between animation and direction.

Daniel Hall
Daniel Hall

gonna go with dawnfag on this one. Would say misty, but those people can't possibly still exist.

James Peterson
James Peterson

There's more than one way to interpret animation quality. A low budget production can look better than a blockbuster with the right art direction.

Ryan Davis
Ryan Davis

When are they getting married?

Jaxson Cruz
Jaxson Cruz

more goalpost moving
grasping at straws THIS hard
Kek

Carson Jackson
Carson Jackson

Refer to It sounds like you're a huge faggot. Again, fuck off back to your containment board.

Julian Baker
Julian Baker

right art direction

you just said it was the direction though. What does that have to do with the animation?

Ethan Thompson
Ethan Thompson

Never because Ash will leave Serena like he always does with his pokemons when he changes regions

Christian Morris
Christian Morris

He's just a retard. He cannot tell the difference between all the components of animation, and he believes that the director is in charge of the animation.
He's just a shitposter that doesn't know shit and will try trashtalk into having the last word like the underage tard that he is.

Justin Diaz
Justin Diaz

it's ash angsting over being a fuck up episode
Just get to the fuckin league.

Noah Powell
Noah Powell

Animation is the art of making something move.

Bearing that in mind, please define what "good" animation is.

Charles Cooper
Charles Cooper

They are so desesperate holy shit

Adam Bell
Adam Bell

You are one autistic faggot. It sounds like you've been anally devastated recently.

Asher Young
Asher Young

Animation is the art of making something move.

Agreed. Now define what direction is and let's see if we can agree, because I think this is where we differ.

Aaron Jackson
Aaron Jackson

Well, that statement's not wrong. If only you hadn't proved yourself to be a complete retard before it.

Julian Gomez
Julian Gomez

Get fucked Serena, Tripokalon is shit anyway.

Also Ash confirmed an abusive boyfriend.

Oliver Ward
Oliver Ward

Oh yeah, I've been devastated by your self-sufficiency and your audacity to impose your views on others despite being a complete idiot with ABSOLUTELY NO knowledge of what you're talking about.

Seriously, stop, this is getting painful to see.

Oliver Davis
Oliver Davis

Why are you answering my question with a question? Not confident in your capacity to answer?

I'm not the one with severe aspergers. Throw the insults all you like, it just makes you look dumber.

Jason Baker
Jason Baker

All I ever said was the post you highlighted wasn't wrong and you've gone berserk and started throwing insults.

Ethan Brooks
Ethan Brooks

Aww, you're trying so hard.

William Butler
William Butler

You didn't have a question. You said something about good animation, which I never brought up. Actually, you'd be the one answering a question with a question, but that's not really the point. I'm just trying to understand what you mean is all. But if you're going to get aggressive than nevermind, there's not much point.

Kayden Walker
Kayden Walker

Trying to use "big" words to sound more intelligent

And here we have an underage b&. inb4
No I'm not ur dumb for calling them big words

Lincoln Peterson
Lincoln Peterson

What could you possibly understand
From a meta perspective, he has a point. I don't know what sort of time and retcon shenanigans go on in this show, but this guy has been competing for 20 years now with varying degrees of success, but he has a vast amount of experience compared to her. She really can't possibly begin to comprehend what it must be like him to fail over and over.

Of course, who cares because there is no such thing as character development where the lead's status quo behavior is necessary for anything to make sense. The guy has pretty much lived multiple lifetimes worth of adventures.

Ryan Evans
Ryan Evans

He's still a bitch I see.

James Moore
James Moore

Looks like a typical live thread on Sup Forums.

Aaron Gomez
Aaron Gomez

"self-sufficiency" and "audacity" are "big words"
Who's the underage around?

Chase James
Chase James

What even happened with that plot?
Did she lose?

Bentley Davis
Bentley Davis

You didn't have a question
Bearing that in mind, please define what "good" animation is.

I haven't been even remotely aggressive towards you. Why don't you say something about the guy throwing insults everywhere? Or do you only criticize people when it suits your agenda?

Ayden Sanchez
Ayden Sanchez

Not sure if sarcastic or just stupid.

Christian White
Christian White

be a /v/irgin
/vp/ pokemon relations occassionally inform over amour development which is all that matters because muh chilldhood
get to come into Sup Forums every now and then and see what I believe are the two worst boards at arguing get at each other

it's just pure magic sometimes.

Julian Hill
Julian Hill

Yeah. She lost because the plot called for it.

Daniel Cook
Daniel Cook

romantic chemistry
ditches her like all the other girls around the world

Ash prefers brock after all

Ayden Hughes
Ayden Hughes

/v/
calling any other board on Sup Forums for being bad
Pot calling kettle black.

Matthew Hughes
Matthew Hughes

First post best post

Brody Ortiz
Brody Ortiz

He's probably got schizophrenia or something. Goes into seizure when he's made to look stupid.

Tyler Gutierrez
Tyler Gutierrez

on Sup Forums I meant.

Nathan Wright
Nathan Wright

He actually fixed it later at the end.

For the record I feel like this thread was made just for shitposting.

Luis Hill
Luis Hill

You're trying to give me sass about not being confident just because I want to focus on the point I asked you about. "Good" animation is not my concern.

Why don't you say something about the guy throwing insults everywhere?

Why don't you say something about the guy throwing insults everywhere?
It would only escalate it, I can tell he's the type to multi-quote and try to take on two at once. It would only further shit up the thread, but that's already happening right now so I'm just going to stop unless you want to discuss what I asked you.

Jack Johnson
Jack Johnson

Why can't you retarded shippingfags stay on /vp/ where you belong.

Levi Flores
Levi Flores

Nice bait man.

But Sup Forums is not as bad as /v/. When an episode for something comes out theres a chance it's a good thread unlike repetitive shitposting and false flagging about tumblr, Twitter and "shills" that is /v/.

Ryan Hall
Ryan Hall

more like cock

Nicholas Ramirez
Nicholas Ramirez

we argue but we do it half-heartedly now. There's no passion in it anymore, and people are only elitist ironically. Here you guys actually care, and it's great

Blake Rodriguez
Blake Rodriguez

I just can't think of Ash as a human being anymore.
He's just a nonstop device for promoting the games, always will be.
Even this 'development' looks hollow. It's just gunna reset and he'll go through the exact same trials all over again.

Aaron Wood
Aaron Wood

"Good" animation is not my concern.
Then there's nothing to discuss, because my initial posts correlates to that.

I can tell he's the type to multi-quote and try to take on two at once
Yeah, you'd know that alright, samefagger.

Nolan Stewart
Nolan Stewart

Passion is gone.

Christopher Rogers
Christopher Rogers

Of course, Anthony Burch, of course.

Camden Baker
Camden Baker

guy linket this thread in the /vp/ one, they told him to fuck off, neither /vp/ or Sup Forums wants him, he's just one sad mentally ill shipper just ignore him and sage

Zachary Mitchell
Zachary Mitchell

I'm not insulting you. I'm calling you out for being a retard that talks about shit he doesn't know about and shitposts when he's not happy for being told that he's wrong. That's a fact, and only the truth hurts.

Josiah Sullivan
Josiah Sullivan

No, you're clearly the same guy. Someone this autistic can only come from a board like /vp/.

Brayden Long
Brayden Long

He literally did that in that same episode, check the other wemb in this thread.

He can't develop, and even if he does for an arc (god those final DPPT arcs were so good) he is always bound to "reset", his rivals, his pokemon and even companions (sorry Serena fags) will always rotate.

The anime is fun I guess to catch from time to time, and specially near the leagues.

Dawn is still better than Serena

Jose Phillips
Jose Phillips

I don't even think he's a shipper, he just shit posts.

If it is who I think it is, he spams /qa/ with threads about thread spams in /vp/ when it was revealed that he's the one that makes them for fuck knows what reason. Basically, he false flags.

Aaron Nelson
Aaron Nelson

that same episode featured flashbacks to the very moment ash decided to become a pokemon trainer
fusion literally only he is capable of has already allowed him to take down the champion

It's okay to believe user.

Hunter Foster
Hunter Foster

That is straight DBZ stuff, If he finally wins the league with this bullshit it would only be fair to compensate for how he lost against Tobias in his best run.

I wonder if it will transition to the next region or if it will be swept under the rug (like Zygarde most likely lel).

I guess it depends if it is a new mechanic for the new gen, which I hope not because come on....

Ryder Jenkins
Ryder Jenkins

you can live forever and you will still never see you ship OTP come true

I wonder how many faggots have died knowing Ash x Misty will never happen

Wyatt Kelly
Wyatt Kelly

so
inciting intra-4chan raid
right?

Bentley Brown
Bentley Brown

having an OTP that gets most of its material from the dub

they deserve it

Nathaniel Price
Nathaniel Price

being like 40 years old
still having a shitty Kanto OTP

They had it coming.

tfw favorite girls were May and Dawn and I never shipped them with Ash

Felt good.

Henry Phillips
Henry Phillips

If it's the guy I think it is then yeah.

Ryder James
Ryder James

Ash x Misty will never happen
Try Ash x Lorelei /ss/, i'm fucked.

Samuel Gonzalez
Samuel Gonzalez

Ohohohoho i wish i was as pure and ignorant of fandoms as you are!

Isaiah Ross
Isaiah Ross

They don't even have romantic chemistry. They interact less than Ash and every other girl, and the closest thing they have to a dynamic is the inspiration angle that was pulled a whopping 3 times in 120 episodes. The ship is still completely one sided, and there is nothing particularly compelling about it other than the mere fact or premise of Ash getting a girlfriend. The ship exists because Serena's crush is canon, not because they're particularly good together. Any of the other girls would do just as well or better in this regard, except maybe Iris.

Josiah Young
Josiah Young

Reminder that the /vp/ anime general made this chart. This is exactly how autistic they are, and they want threads on Sup Forums now.

Gavin Perry
Gavin Perry

The characters are all garbage especially Ash whose bland as fuck good guy that doesn't care about anything but battling and then butt fuck his pokemon afterwards. The original series of the anime was more standard anime than this horse shit.

Levi Rogers
Levi Rogers

"favoring" basic girls from a children's show because of their "character"
not just rooting for the girl most likely to get your childhood protagonist some pussy

I would be laughing at how sad I am if you weren't even sadder. I can't you watch pokemon and take it seriously

Josiah Howard
Josiah Howard

I don't ship, but they're not nearly as bad as you autists, who actually started a petition for Serena to stay with Ash.

Chase Ortiz
Chase Ortiz

brock cock

Daniel Ross
Daniel Ross

you'll call me a serenafag, but I still see it worse to be holding onto a ship from, what, the early 2000s? And I'm pretty sure Misty hasn't appeared since. Just think about that for a bit.

Jonathan Myers
Jonathan Myers

You are rooting for a character from pokemon to get pussy. When it was clear from the start he only wants to have a good time with his pokemon.

Only girl he ever showed interest into and it was more of comic relief was a character of the day way back in Kanto.

Kayden Johnson
Kayden Johnson

Dawn and May on first place
Undesired: old age
Autistic indeed.

Tyler Sanchez
Tyler Sanchez

He's right that she can't understand, but she's right that sulking isn't like him and won't get him anywhere.

Carter Carter
Carter Carter

I don't ship, but they're not nearly as bad as you autists, who actually started a petition for Serena to stay with Ash.
They make one every year to bring Misty back and this has been going on since Misty left. Not to mention everything they talk about came from the dub. They're worse.

In a way Serena's actually makes sense just because the new girl looks similar to Serena and that isn't something fabricated by a foreign dub.

Camden Rogers
Camden Rogers

the /vp/ anime general made this chart

one literally retarded dutchfag does not represent the entire general

Leo Harris
Leo Harris

Those facts don't make you way more depressing. You watch pokemon. And take it seriously.

Brody Long
Brody Long

yeah, that's not a question

Evan Sanchez
Evan Sanchez

Not to mention everything they talk about came from the dub
Not really. In the Lugia movie, Misty was clearly jealous of the girl who kissed Ash. Her facial expressions prove this so you can't just pin it on the dub.

Dylan Fisher
Dylan Fisher

You are literally posting in Sup Forums and talking pokemon with me about it.

Justin Hughes
Justin Hughes

the difference is I didnt waste my time with what is probably hundreds of team rocket rehash episodes

Jose Jenkins
Jose Jenkins

I don't know what sort of time and retcon shenanigans go on in this show
He's still 12. hundreds of episodes worth of shit have happened in less than a year. Go figure.

Ian Perez
Ian Perez

I don't mean animation wise. The script was altered in a way that made the movie seem more about Misty liking Ash than it really was.

Owen Rodriguez
Owen Rodriguez

That's funny because he always says we are underage for enjoying the romance subplot when we throw occasionnal good-humored spikes while pairing Satoshi with a shitload of side characters, even having Alan going faggot for Satoshi. We're just having fun over the anime, and this guy takes it so fucking seriously.

Kevin Davis
Kevin Davis

Those lifetimes don't exist because then he would be older. He doesn't even have over a year of experience.

Kayden Wood
Kayden Wood

I didn't understand most of that but okay

Luke White
Luke White

Pic related is the only girl Ash has ever liked and ever will like.

The autists on /vp/ are just deluding themselves. Serena has never progressed beyond spaghetti.

Hudson Roberts
Hudson Roberts

Good for you

She was a qt

Eli Wright
Eli Wright

good humored spikes
you mean cringey fanfics

pairing Satoshi with a shitload of side characters
you mean screaming SHITPOSTER at anyone who does this, jokingly or not

i know what goes on in that rancid shitheap you call a general

Alexander Robinson
Alexander Robinson

romance subplot
Still being an idiot I see.

Spaghetti scenes here and there is not a romantic subplot you stupid idiot.

Nathaniel Baker
Nathaniel Baker

They interact just fine considering it's a four-man group. The whole inspiration then gets used a lot in romance anime and it comes during Serena's goals often. With Ash they occur less often but happen in key points. When things go bad it's Serena who gets him out of it.You also had stuff like XY059 that actually tied in to the next episode. With Ash it doesn't come up as often but the stuff is there especially when you consider Ash's character over the years. Even last episode you had .

Jordan Cruz
Jordan Cruz

So is he still on that massive win streak? I stopped watching just before XYZ for reasons, but I was considering catching up.

Owen Brooks
Owen Brooks

Wow, literally character interactions. Where's the romantic subplot?

Better yet, why doesn't Ash ever blush? Probably because he doesn't care for Serena like your headcanons suggest.

Oliver Perry
Oliver Perry

Okay. In short, there is a romance subplot on-going with Serena having a one-sided crush on Satoshi (think of it just like your average girl from your average haremshit) and it's new (plus it has the osananajimi flag) so it's fun and we go full fun on it. But we're also exaggerating the reactions of certain side characters just like when the current rival called Alan/Alain got very excited when facing Satoshi in the Mega battle and we're joking saying that Alan is going homo for Satoshi (after all, he's the MC).

I mean fuck, it's literally all we can talk about. It's not like there's anything interesting to talk about when it comes to Pokemon overall.

Sure, sure. I see that you're the "no fun allowed" type. What else the fuck could we talk about when it comes to this anime? Just like I said, you're taking this shit too seriously. Get that stick off your ass.

We've already been over this.

Jeremiah Scott
Jeremiah Scott

I don't care about amour or shipping or arguments right now because I'm hyped especially since its league season now

Isaac Peterson
Isaac Peterson

not even trying to deny it

Ouch, the story just keeps getting worse

Oliver Robinson
Oliver Robinson

Would there be anything amiss if this exact situation happened with Clemont? No? Then it's not romantic chemistry.

Christian Carter
Christian Carter

dat Brock's face

Austin Stewart
Austin Stewart

Ash even blushed to Misty at one point.

Jeremiah Turner
Jeremiah Turner

romance subplot
You don't know what a romantic subplot is, idiot. Serena's sporadic blushes don't constitute the label of a plot. Stop applying your idiotic headcanons to a kids show.

Asher Lee
Asher Lee

He was up to a couple weeks back.
Ice leader fucked him over good even with the anime only powerup thing.

Robert Martinez
Robert Martinez

What a faggot he was.

Carson Diaz
Carson Diaz

There clearly would.

Landon Fisher
Landon Fisher

ash used to have a personality
The OS really did have a lot of charm, charm that's been lost in the latest series.

Carson Diaz
Carson Diaz

Don't forget it, guys

Nolan Collins
Nolan Collins

I see that you're the "no fun allowed" type.

what the fuck are you talking about? i'm describing the thread, not saying that's how it should be. your autistic overexplaining shows how full of shit you are anyway, even to people who don't browse the threads.

Camden Hernandez
Camden Hernandez

Why do /vp/ keep making these threads on Sup Forums? It's the second fucking pokemon thread in two days and they're trying to claim it's not a general?

Robert Kelly
Robert Kelly

Ash behaves the same with everyone except Serena.

Anthony Lopez
Anthony Lopez

Forget what? Your autism? It's pretty difficult when you're trying this hard to shove it down every board's throat.

Eli Cooper
Eli Cooper

He was a clown, Brock > Ash/Misty

Thomas Morales
Thomas Morales

Clemont giving Ash the same words of encouragement and Ash thanking him for it would be nothing romantic. None of Ash's interactions with Serena go beyond platonic friendship.

Jose Torres
Jose Torres

I suspect it's that one autist from /qa/ making these threads again.

Christopher Taylor
Christopher Taylor

Ahhhh summers back

Dominic Murphy
Dominic Murphy

/vp/ doesn't do this. It's just the shitposter trying to force his agenda..

If you actually described the thread, you wouldn't be putting judging expression on it that showed how biaised you are. Better luck next time, faggot.

Grayson Long
Grayson Long

Ash behaves the same with everyone except Serena.
No, this is just your headcanon. Ash has behaved differently to other characters several times. He certainly hasn't blushed over Serena like he did with Giselle.

Aaron Howard
Aaron Howard

these posts trying to "guess" who's behind what are quite possibly the cringiest a post can get. There's like 3 others up there too. Acting like you know what's happening behind the scenes on Sup Forums is the newest thing you could do on this website.

Jose Baker
Jose Baker

Clemont has and Ash doesn't pay attention to them. Hell, XY059 was in itself more than just platonic friendship.

Carter Hill
Carter Hill

cringe
And you don't belong on this board.

Jaxon Diaz
Jaxon Diaz

The reason /padt/ is so all-in on this shipping rubbish is because they're vicariously living through Ash. He's such a boring, bland character now, which makes it easy for fat, mouth breathing manchildren and children alike to self-insert as him and live the dream of being a good trainer with a cute french girl having a crush on them.

James Barnes
James Barnes

What is there to remember? He was sick in an earlier season and kept blushing during it as well, it has nothing to do with the girl.

Gabriel Foster
Gabriel Foster

Hello OP.

It's easy to tell because you're the only one who would defend this shitty thread.

Carson Campbell
Carson Campbell

I agree. This thread feels like summer

Ethan Carter
Ethan Carter

you wouldn't be putting judging expression on it

actually i would given the actual atrocious state of the thread. you're the one being insincere by omitting, whitewashing and outright lying about its bullshit. there is no fun, there is just screeching at anyone who doesn't adhere to amourfag/threadfag autism.

Parker Ward
Parker Ward

Why not with Dawn?

Brayden Davis
Brayden Davis

But what you desire in real life should also be reflected on fictional women
Don't even know how to react to shit this fucking stupid sometimes.

Josiah Cook
Josiah Cook

Reminder that the OP is the guy posting in pic related here

He admits to thinking there's nothing wrong with Generals and spergs like a maniac when you question him.

Evan Gutierrez
Evan Gutierrez

That was stun spore. That one was straight up Japanese cold.

Kayden Bell
Kayden Bell

that's the only slightest hint I'll give you, and only because it's in the actual dialogue and not some bullshit interpretation of the scene.

Carter Gomez
Carter Gomez

That one was straight up Japanese cold.
A fever makes your bodyheat rise, the fact that this goes over your head is quite astonishing.

Thomas Russell
Thomas Russell

I don't think I could name a single Pokemon after the first 151.

Parker Lewis
Parker Lewis

Coming from someone who tried to piss off people on purpose by cherrypicking moments in the show to push "Citron/Serena" as canon, I find you to be quite the hypocrite. The pairings are here for fun (at least, in my case) and recent discussion has been about nothing but the actual episodes and not Amour stuff.

Noah Bennett
Noah Bennett

Reminder

we didn't care about your butthurt vendetta the first time and we don't care now. fuck off.

Jack Taylor
Jack Taylor

Are you me?

Luke Green
Luke Green

What are you even talking about? All I was saying was that the other time he was sick was with Stun spore. I wasn't saying anything else.

Ethan Scott
Ethan Scott

we
Do you speak collectively for Sup Forums?

Owen White
Owen White

You sound like you're from /vp/ desperately trying to put the blame on one "fag" you guys are aware of

Nathan Gutierrez
Nathan Gutierrez

yep, confirmed from /vp/. Back to your board.

Gabriel Flores
Gabriel Flores

I hate whoever tried to push "Serena/Citron" because it wasn't for fun, it was just made to attack people.

Tyler Morris
Tyler Morris

Yes, you. You're the one who continues to make Sup Forums threads.

Lucas Lopez
Lucas Lopez

How is it headcanon when Ash invites Serena to go with him when he doesn't invite anyone, that whole gift-giving scene, and when he gets sheepish with her?

Carson Jenkins
Carson Jenkins

Here, you can have this.

Hudson Nguyen
Hudson Nguyen

samefagging
You are one sad act.

Michael White
Michael White

What made him emo?

Joshua Scott
Joshua Scott

How is it headcanon when Ash invites Serena to go with him when he doesn't invite anyone
Because that doesn't even come close to being labeled a romantic subplot, retard.

sheepish
Seriously nigger? You're digging this low?

Sebastian Morgan
Sebastian Morgan

implying i'm whoever the fuck you're talking about

case in point. all you do is accuse people of being some shitposting boogeyman instead of engaging their posts. your butthurt is palpable.

nothing but the actual episodes and not Amour stuff
my fucking sides. ash and greninja fucking perfected their super saiyan form and 99% of the discussion was about the fucking snowball scene. your head is so far up your ass you're actually eating up your own bullshit.

Adrian Smith
Adrian Smith

No shit, thats the point. I was able to confirm immediately afterwards you're some control freak from /vp/. No one gives a shit what screencaps you have from /vp/. Go back there and fuck off.

Juan White
Juan White

I like how you try to cherry pick while acting like that's not how romance subplots start. You dig pretty low.

Nicholas Lewis
Nicholas Lewis

You're the one samefagging, idiot, and you're clearly the one trying to force these threads to make the /vp/ thread look bad.

Julian Bell
Julian Bell

No, I'm pretty sure I had fun. If you believe people ship it based off the cooking scene you deserve what you get.

Kayden Stewart
Kayden Stewart

cherry pick
What? Where?

You're the one cherry picking spaghetti scenes, not me.

while acting like that's not how romance subplots star
You've still yet to point out how sporadic spaghetti constitutes romantic subplot, probably because you're a retard who doesn't know what a subplot is.

Colton Johnson
Colton Johnson

the only one making /vp/ look bad is you

Samuel Torres
Samuel Torres

you still haven't learned

Eli Miller
Eli Miller

reading comprehension

Glad to see you confirm yourself what i'm accusing you of. Go defend /vp/'s reputation somewhere where people actually give a shit. Your entire board is an embarrassment and you should stay there indefinitely

Brody Howard
Brody Howard

Four consecutive defeats

Oliver Hughes
Oliver Hughes

time to make this thread worthwhile

Chase Edwards
Chase Edwards

So you admit to going on /vp/? Nice. Now, you'll understand that we talked as much as possible about the Greninja scene, but human drama is still another worthy subject in this episode. JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE IT DOESN'T MEAN PEOPLE SHOULDN'T SPEAK ABOUT IT, YOU SELF-ENTITLED IDIOT.

Here, I wrote it in nicely uppercase letters so that you can (hopefully) finally understand that we don't want you here if you're just going to spread your agenda. You don't like the anime? Fine, fuck off from the threads.

Jack Morgan
Jack Morgan

Even /padt/ agrees these threads are cancer, and have said so in this very thread, idiot.

If you don't like it, why don't you just make a thread on /qa/ about how they keep bullying you like you always do?

Owen Nguyen
Owen Nguyen

Has entire board to spam their shit
Still spills to the other boards
Worse than /mlp/ when is /vp/ getting nuked?

Wyatt Cook
Wyatt Cook

Stop forcing these shit threads on Sup Forums, idiot.

Jeremiah Jones
Jeremiah Jones

people ship it
It's dead, Jim. This shit hasn't been brought up ever since pic related killed it.

Sebastian Gonzalez
Sebastian Gonzalez

He couldn't trigger the Greninja transformation and he felt he was falling behind of Shota who already had eight badges, then he's out of his game and Wulfric beats him. He realizes he pushed Greninja too hard and that he fucked up then goes emo.

Serena comes along and fixes him while they both fuck up with each other. Then you get and "Okaeri Satoshi" from Serena. Just no tadaima.

Dylan Cooper
Dylan Cooper

you could have prevented this

Josiah Edwards
Josiah Edwards

You're the one cherry picking spaghetti scenes, not me.
no mention of spaghetti scenes at all
Couldn't make it any more obvious you were baiting, could you?

William Ramirez
William Ramirez

You posted a webm montage, retard. You can post all the pictures/webms you like, you still don't understand what a romantic subplot is, and it's because you're a complete idiot.

Eli Richardson
Eli Richardson

i literally fucking said i know what goes on in those threads. i don't actually care about amour discussion, i was just pointing out your patent lie about the thread's content.

these threads are cancer because you spread /padt/'s cancer here. you're literally doing it right now. nobody gives a fuck about "the shitposter" or your stupid fucking thread politics. i presume these threads are made to get away from that shit and actually have fun, but then you show up.

David Lopez
David Lopez

You could do that yourself by leaving. You are a good part of the reason why a thread would be shit. Stop trying to protect the image of your precious general. Here's a hint because you can't seem to get that I know your angle: you are ruining it further.

/vp/

Dominic Price
Dominic Price

these threads are cancer because you spread /padt/'s cancer here
No, it's because you make them like the angry little cretin you are.

Hudson Myers
Hudson Myers

/v/ is worse than /a/+/vp/ they said

Hudson Hill
Hudson Hill

you're only proving my point.

Evan Miller
Evan Miller

I didn't post the webm montage but that still shows how he gets sheepish. Then again, you don't care.

James Hughes
James Hughes

MY WAIFU IN THE POKEMON LEAGUE

Julian Powell
Julian Powell

I'm certainly not proving any point of yours, because you're just a really angry sperglord who loses his shit when people point out how shitty your forced Sup Forums generals are.

Chase James
Chase James

I'm certainly not proving any point of yours, because you're just a really angry sperglord

and he's down and out. Go home everyone

Landon Gomez
Landon Gomez

You are pretty autistic yourself to stay in those threads and say as much shit as possible about another board. It's definitely obsession on your part. Did a guy from /vp/ break your glasses, little boy? You can tell us everything.

Jaxson Gray
Jaxson Gray

Why are you describing yourself? Does it hurt knowing more people are seeing your shitty bait threads for what they are? Why haven't you made your usual /qa/ complaint thread?

Henry Howard
Henry Howard

It's probably one of their tripfags trying to gain /a/'s approval via reverse psychology.

Carter Nguyen
Carter Nguyen

the fact that you're accusing me of being OP proves my point here

the "when did pokemon" topics are shitty, but nowhere near as shitty as the shit you bring into them, with your infantile shitposter witch hunt. you're the one sperging out every time a pokeani thread is made on Sup Forums, because you're hilariously butthurt about some phantom shitposter that it's all your ever post about in either thread.

Asher Stewart
Asher Stewart

Hex Maniac a cute. CUTE!

Christopher Johnson
Christopher Johnson

If that really was the case, he would be displaying his trip. No, it's just a case of a Pokeshipper who got buttmad about Serena.

Luis Johnson
Luis Johnson

Don't really know what you're accusing me of and I don't care. You are confirmed a /vp/ anime generalfag, and that's all I need to know. That's more than bad enough. Go back and never return.

Easton Ward
Easton Ward

From what I remember seeing in the threads, the only ones that use a trip are one of the subbers and one guy that does video/music rips from the anime.

You rarely see those trips though.

Jackson Nguyen
Jackson Nguyen

The animation is just awesome

Carson Butler
Carson Butler

you made the op didnt you?!
no you! You! And you!
stop hating /vp/ guys, it's one of these, I swear!!

it's delicious

Nathan Smith
Nathan Smith

samefag

Justin Watson
Justin Watson

Not even trying, eh?

Liam Ortiz
Liam Ortiz

This is now a pokegril thread

Ian Martin
Ian Martin

Remind that in an old japanese trailer of Mewtwo Strikes Back Misty appears older with a little girl, so in some reality Ash is a father and Serena isn't the mother of his children.

Xavier Harris
Xavier Harris

damage control

tfw she'll never be animated

Matthew Ward
Matthew Ward

/vp/

Carson Price
Carson Price

That was the representation of the little girl singing the ED.

Dylan Morgan
Dylan Morgan

Works for me.

Noah Russell
Noah Russell

it would be funny if every time we saw one of the old girls, she'd have aged by the appropriate amount of time she spent away from Ash.

Carter King
Carter King

Ok

Jason Lewis
Jason Lewis

Source? Not getting defensive, just curious.

John Robinson
John Robinson

She was hotter with long hair.

Easton Robinson
Easton Robinson

She's still

Daniel Cox
Daniel Cox

Is Pikachu checking her butt?

Brandon Gonzalez
Brandon Gonzalez

what fragrance did she leave on ash's clothes?

Daniel Watson
Daniel Watson

I don't remember this scene, at all.

Was it last weeks episode?

Also, as per the topic, it could get closer, yet.

Josiah Adams
Josiah Adams

Only Ash knows

Jason Phillips
Jason Phillips

that fucking dedenne
holy fuck muh sides

Connor Davis
Connor Davis

It's fucking stupid, but I really like the idea of pokemon depending so much on the trainer, like pikachu's thunder not doing anything if he's worried about ash in the op episode, and generally always mirroring their emotions.

I wish I could feel that attachment in the games.

James Baker
James Baker

These are games about mass-breeding to get the perfect Pokemon and discard the others, and destroy your enemy in competition that are heavily reglemented. If it were not for the anime, the whole thing would be nothing but a mass-production factory. It is ironic that the games would become the opposite of what the brand it supposed to be.

Thomas Hill
Thomas Hill

Wonder how the writers will fuck him this time?

Gabriel Clark
Gabriel Clark

Who knows

Christopher Brown
Christopher Brown

While he seems to have left now, I really wish the mods would catch on to this guy and his crazy shitposting that makes it so hard to discuss the Pokemon anime here.

When did he start doing this every time we have a thread, anyway?

Liam White
Liam White

I wonder if someone would post about ash failing league again.

Landon Rogers
Landon Rogers

Lots of people that don't normally watch the anime tune in for the league, so expect a good number of Pokemon threads here the next couple months.

Oliver Brooks
Oliver Brooks

if their general wasn't so bent on protecting it's image, we'd be able to have a decent discussion about old episodes vs new episodes regardless of who made the thread. Everyone knows these are only started to "show off' x/y , but an okay thread can still be had anyway despite that. What we don't need is a faggot pretending like he's filling everyone in on the situation.

Cameron Morales
Cameron Morales

r8

Isaac Sullivan
Isaac Sullivan

Why are you so bent on comparing old vs new? What's the point?

Gabriel Davis
Gabriel Davis

bent on comparing old vs new
I'm not? That's just the obvious point of this thread. And even if it wasn't, that's what discussion evolves into every single time anyway. Anyone could see that coming a mile away.

Alexander Powell
Alexander Powell

This has nothing to do with anything other than some guy that's completely intent on shitting up Pokemon anime-related threads both here AND on /vp/. The entire insistence that one guy supposedly makes these threads to "push this shitty anime on /a/" is just another random thing he made up in an attempt at getting people to join him in shitting them up.

Luke Campbell
Luke Campbell

what is this? I'm expecting a fun online flash pokemon game, but I would have probably heard about it if it was any good

Elijah Russell
Elijah Russell

The obvious point of this thread is shitposting. Just like says, he does this to have people join him in hating /vp/ because /vp/ doesn't bear "genwunners" as they are the most obnoxious people there (be it for the games or the anime) and he's a Pokeshipper and thinks the original season is best and nothing can come close to it without actually watching.

Zachary Wilson
Zachary Wilson

It's the Pokemon Global Link, basically just a website you connect to your game that tracks your data and lets you transfer some shit back and forth to buy/win new items and shit.
It's also how you register for online tournaments etc.

Jaxson Perez
Jaxson Perez

That pikachu looks kinda off. Whats with his head?

Connor Lee
Connor Lee

No, the point of this thread is to discuss the Pokemon anime. The threads are good when that one guy isn't sitting there shitting them up, and cancerous when he is. The only connection they have to /vp/ is when he shows up to use them as an outlet about how much he hates /vp/.

And no, he's not the one that makes the threads here, people that want to discuss the series make them.

David Myers
David Myers

His head is more spherical then usual.

Logan Gonzalez
Logan Gonzalez

this thread was made by some amourfan. If it was a shitposting attempt, it would have just been a screencap and not a pair of webms. The intention was to show off X/Y, and trying to pin it all on some scapegoat is delusional. It's natural that fans would leak over here and post some stuff just to spur up some interest whenever something remotely exciting happens. You really need to cut it out.

Kevin Anderson
Kevin Anderson

I remember when it was actually possible to discuss this series here.

Justin Morales
Justin Morales

This really is the only way the rabid serena shipping adult men are doing makes a semblance of sense

William Rogers
William Rogers

pikachu has been redesigned to hell and back. For a truly timeless superior, turn towards Raichu and all his of underrated glory. That should have been him in pokken.

Kevin Nelson
Kevin Nelson

We love live now

Jordan Bennett
Jordan Bennett

Charizard Y is so infinitely better than flame-mouth edgyzard. Even his wings manage to look stupid, whereas Y feels like a natural min-evolution. All I wanted to see was Ash's charizard turn into that, but I'll settle for greninja if we get more battles like the one versus the champion.

Dominic Foster
Dominic Foster

this faggot was literally voiced by a girl

Learning this has destroyed my childhood.

Landon Thomas
Landon Thomas

League is cancelled because of Team Flare attack

Justin Scott
Justin Scott

Why?

Alexander Cook
Alexander Cook

keep em coming. Makes childhood-me psyched.

Austin Thompson
Austin Thompson

No, most anime airs when childrena re asleep.

Jordan Gray
Jordan Gray

Most of those are adaptations of manga running in children's magazines though.

Michael Reed
Michael Reed

Kinda cute

Juan Ortiz
Juan Ortiz

tfw when Luchabro was introduced I thought hes a shitter
mfw hes based as fuck

Ryder Evans
Ryder Evans

could have done without the silly loop around, but I dug the scene. Any word on what it means for the synchro? Will Ash still feel pain?

Gavin Long
Gavin Long

Serena is fucking adorable.

Nathaniel Price
Nathaniel Price

He was a jobber for a while.

Xavier Mitchell
Xavier Mitchell

Would you fuck ash?

Oliver Kelly
Oliver Kelly

He's always been based as fuck.

Brody Martin
Brody Martin

he fucked up that snowman on the 8th gym with precision too. He's a top-notch fighter, and he's got spunk

Jacob Ortiz
Jacob Ortiz

No reason why he shouldn't. I think he'll just stop going maximum edge.

Blake Cruz
Blake Cruz

Yes.

Chase Perry
Chase Perry

Maybe?

Joseph White
Joseph White

I don't know in what universe you think you are if you think most anime is manga adaptations. My point was that there is a clear difference between anime that airs at night and in the morning. 90% of what Sup Forums talks about your average Japanese 7 year old child will never see.

Adrian Reyes
Adrian Reyes

but that was by far the best moment of the entire anime

Bentley Jenkins
Bentley Jenkins

If Ash wins the league with 3 flying types, I'd be legit surprised.

Andrew Jenkins
Andrew Jenkins

End of Pokemon when?

Chase Hill
Chase Hill

I don't mean the shounen power go! But in the match against Diantha, after he beat her Gardevoir he wanted to keep beating her up.

Ian Price
Ian Price

Jesse is surprisingly competent at contest. She should win more.

Nathan Sullivan
Nathan Sullivan

Maye not see, but a good deal of it is adapted from manga they've have read. Most manga that gets adapted into anime is shonen.

I don't know in what universe you think you are if you think most anime is manga adaptations
They are. VN adaptations aren't super common and LN adaptations are a fairly recent thing.

Lucas Cooper
Lucas Cooper

She made it to the fucking semifinals in both DP and XY's league equivalents for contests/tripokalons

Grayson Ward
Grayson Ward

I hate semi-final losses. It's always such a copout.

Joseph Perry
Joseph Perry

They had more important characters that needed to be in the finals.

Ayden Jenkins
Ayden Jenkins

Stop being reasonable.

James Price
James Price

honestly was so bored during these specials until it got to the mega evolution challenges. Prime example how great visuals do nothing without a sturdy emotional connection.

Landon Wright
Landon Wright

I love this part. Groudon and Kyogre rampaging around in Primal form and sudden, Daddy Fug appears and everybody goes to bed.

Adrian Brown
Adrian Brown

There is a difference between shows like Pokemon and Precure in regards to shows like Kabaneri and Sakamoto Desu Ga. The easiest way to tell the market audience apart is to see what product the show is advertising.

I was just responding to the stupid notion that most anime is aimed at the same audience as the Pokemon anime. I don't really want to get into some big argument, can we at least agree that there is such a thing as "kids' anime" and that it isn't 90% of what's airing every season?

Jaxon Jackson
Jaxon Jackson

I'd rather watch Pokemon than Koutetsujou no Stillframe.

Noah Phillips
Noah Phillips

can we at least agree that there is such a thing as "kids' anime" and that it isn't 90% of what's airing every season?
We can. I wasn't trying to imply that wasn't the case.

Jeremiah Hernandez
Jeremiah Hernandez

Why do Pokemon movie have such a high production value?

Liam Rivera
Liam Rivera

Because they print money. There was an interview with a guy from TOHO last year where he basically gave that as the reason for why annual Pokemon movies are going to be a thing for quite a while longer.

Isaiah Hall
Isaiah Hall

And those unlike the series get timely BD releases.

Connor Walker
Connor Walker

writers
implying there are writers for this anime
implying these writers give a fuck

Jace Williams
Jace Williams

not knowing that Pokémon has an industry veteran as the lead writer
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=1623

Evan Ramirez
Evan Ramirez

Hands down the best Pokegirl yet

John Robinson
John Robinson

not the ones actually successful

Ian Ortiz
Ian Ortiz

It's Kanako Eo's Pikachu design. I guess it's popular at GAME FREAK or something.

Caleb Martinez
Caleb Martinez

Because they make tons of money, all over the world.

Landon Clark
Landon Clark

Apart from Korea, most of the world treats them as "slightly longer episodes of the TV show"

Austin Sullivan
Austin Sullivan

Real Lives, 8:30pm on TLC

Brody Powell
Brody Powell

Why is he moping? He loses constantly in much more important battles

James Phillips
James Phillips

Pokemon first season(kanto) is top quality anime

Anthony Evans
Anthony Evans

The issue wasn't the defeat, it was his inability to use Greninja's mysterious transformation well, since he always was the one interrupting it by falling from pain. He thought he wasn't good enough for Greninja.

Matthew Miller
Matthew Miller

Why the fuck are they forcing that fanfic shit instead of giving him a proper Mega Evolution? He has plenty of mons that can do it

Isaac Perez
Isaac Perez

Thats a lot of fucking flying types unless the bat is dragon something else

Carson Butler
Carson Butler

The shilling of ash Greninja is really awful.

John Bailey
John Bailey

so basically the message here is: you aren't allowed to feel sad, just keep being optimistic, and hide the pain away

what kind of shit message is that to children?

Nathan Moore
Nathan Moore

I'll give them credit for actually realizing they made Ash a soulless battle robot and trying to reconcile it, though it still feels like last minute drama to salvage his nonexistent character arc.

In terms of overall substance, let's just say this show is lucky its got looks.

Isaiah Phillips
Isaiah Phillips

Hands down the best ANIME Pokegirl yet

ftfy

Jordan Harris
Jordan Harris

Well, it is the anime we're talking about here.

Of course the best Pokégirl is Rosa.

Jayden Robinson
Jayden Robinson

She wasn't angry with him for being sad, she was angry because he told her to fuck off so he could keep moping. She even offered to talk to him about it but he just lashed out at her.

There's another webm of the start of the scene somewhere.

Matthew Turner
Matthew Turner

when she spent the night in ashes tent but couldnt find her shirt the next day.

Carter Price
Carter Price

as well as video game-wise for nearly a decade now

The newer Pokemon games still outsells most """"""""""relevant""""""" games in the market

Jordan James
Jordan James

She is incredibly cute.

Levi Thomas
Levi Thomas

Alright lads, how do you feel about 4chan's official pokegirl tiers?

William Cook
William Cook

loop around was final attempt to slow himself down instead of taking full fall damage

Michael Cooper
Michael Cooper

that Dawn pic
Don't do this to me, user.

Juan Butler
Juan Butler

No, these are the real rankings.

James Phillips
James Phillips

It's Dawn and May at the top and all the shit scattered throughout the tiers.

Dawn and May a best.

Asher Reed
Asher Reed

Surprisingly correct for an obvious troll chart

Ryder Kelly
Ryder Kelly

Where is the official pokeguy chart

Jack Taylor
Jack Taylor

The OS will always be far better than the XY series.

XY is garbage because Ash has been completely exhausted as a character. He's gone through every single character arc a character like him can go through, yet they still have him go through the same old crap because it's all they can do and the audience don't know any better.

OS Ash had an air of freshness within him, and had genuine development. We can feel his emotions as he grows as a trainer and makes difficult decisions, which makes for a more emotionally engaging experience. People who say the OS was shit because Ash was a bad trainer who lost his battles are basically idiots and underagers who eat anything up so long as it looks pretty.

Daniel Howard
Daniel Howard

Don't listen to him, here are the ones /vp/ agreed on.

Austin Phillips
Austin Phillips

when did Ash go through an arc where he turned into a battle monster and had to reconnect with his roots to master his Pokemon? literally never happened before.

Ash was a temperamental loser when OS started and a temperamental loser when it ended. don't know what genuine development you're talking about.

Thomas Powell
Thomas Powell

literally never happened before.
You didn't watch the show. He went through a character arc nearly every second episode, sometimes even in the fillers.

Ash was a temperamental loser when OS started and a temperamental loser when it ended. don't know what genuine development you're talking about.
Watch the show instead of pretending you watched it.

Aaron Moore
Aaron Moore

Who else can't wait until Luna-chan replaces Serena in the next series?

Jacob Miller
Jacob Miller

He asked you when that particular arc happened. Don't dodge the question.

Aiden Ramirez
Aiden Ramirez

you said he exhausted every character arc. quote me the series or episode where that happens.

how did ash significantly change as a character, other than his knowledge of battling, which he improves every season?

Luis Ross
Luis Ross

Is this that same guy that got banned earlier today?

Levi Foster
Levi Foster

Luuuuuuuna-chan!!~

Austin Turner
Austin Turner

Why is Luna-chan so plain?

Easton Gray
Easton Gray

Thunder Badge episode - learns to always give his Pokemon a chance to prove themselves.

Lose to Ritchie episode - learns to never give up on his dreams.

Snow way out - learns to always trust his pokemon, even in the most dire times.

Erika episode - learns that Pokemon should never be judged on appearance

He goes through these all the time, only to be retconned out later. XY is no different, everything he's done in that show is something he's already done, and retards like yourself continue to eat it up.

Sebastian Cruz
Sebastian Cruz

Serena goes to Alola region with Ash and they meet Luna who also has a crush on Ash
both girls travel with him all over the region lowkey trying to win his affections

Henry Gray
Henry Gray

plain
Are you describing your taste? You're dead on there.

William Lewis
William Lewis

Did you know Luna is an owlbro?

Jose Ward
Jose Ward

the only legit one in that list is erika. learning implies that he changed his thinking somehow, when nothing suggests that he thought contrary to those "lessons" you listed. and the erika thing falls under learning more about pokemon, which again is a perpetual thing.

also you're still dodging my question about that arc.

Jonathan White
Jonathan White

Still the best, always will be the best.

Isaiah Kelly
Isaiah Kelly

Did I not already make it clear that they keep retconning his development out? He develops in all those episodes whether you like it or not.

The problem with XY is that every time they try to replicate said developments, it's stupid because it's all been done before, and Ash's personality has disappeared.

Jayden Moore
Jayden Moore

What do you think of this?

Easton Price
Easton Price

Best PokeDoujin Artist coming through.

Jacob Sullivan
Jacob Sullivan

you made it clear that you're incapable of actually addressing my point as you keep dodging it.

you're implying that those episodes changed him significantly and permanently, when he was virtually the same character at the end of OS, just with more pokemon knowledge. also people don't change overnight and they can make similar mistakes multiple times. but XY ash also faces different challenges like what I listed.

XY is exactly where he should be in terms of development and continuity, and the lessons he learns now are appropriate for his level.

Alexander Cox
Alexander Cox

Is he gay?

John Mitchell
John Mitchell

Hah of course, as soon as he stops demonstrating alpha characteristics the female abandons him.

John Russell
John Russell

It's that genwunner again

Wyatt Ortiz
Wyatt Ortiz

I think you're the one who made it clear you don't understand the concept of development. Don't worry, you're not the only retard on this board.

Jace Scott
Jace Scott

damage control

Lincoln King
Lincoln King

XY is exactly where he should be in terms of development and continuity, and the lessons he learns now are appropriate for his level.
Why is he still using new Pokemon then? If development meant anything, he'd be using his most powerful team and taking on far greater challenges, but alas, that doesn't promote the new merchandise.

Can't believe there are people like you who still watch this.

Chase Smith
Chase Smith

XY is exactly where he should be in terms of development and continuity
Justify his personality-less character in XY. Whether or not he's been developed or not means nothing if he's a boring, bland character designed for children to live vicariously through.

Kevin Sanders
Kevin Sanders

She is holding pikachu
I cant remember what was the last female that did this.

Justin Williams
Justin Williams

Why is she so best?

Ethan Adams
Ethan Adams

there are people who think there is genuine romance in pokemon xy

William Cruz
William Cruz

It must be a sign of romance.

Asher Morales
Asher Morales

Ssshhhh user, it's okay to have no arguments, don't start shitposting just because you get told everytime. Hey, I'm patting your head right now, it's gonna be okay. Just kindly get off the thread.

He's a cool dude who managed to get the hang of his Pokemon. He gets chuuni as fuck while still retaining dignity and doesn't get BTFO everytime while making stupid faces unlike his former self. He's more confident, he has his feet on the ground, which is ideal to think thoroughly and win his battle and he recently got a power-up that made him rely a bit too much on it. After growing overconfident, he started losing the focus of what he was doing and lost, but instead of crying and doing stupid anime tantrum or crying, he spent the night outside and sought an issue about his own problems. He didn't get all humble but he still accepted Serena's help despite his pride and grew from the experience.

He's an actual competitor, one that relies on himself and his own abilities, not on some plot-related event that does the job for him. He's a message for people that they shouldn't let events take control of their lives and remain focused and always trying to do something to get better.

Wyatt James
Wyatt James

that's not how it works. he starts new teams because he wants to beat regions legitimately, not just steamroll with his old mons. his development shows in how he raises his pokemon better in every season, except BW.

he does take on greater challenges like the battle frontier, but he hasn't actually won a league yet, so obviously he's going to keep trying.

moving the goalpost. i'm talking about this supposed development in OS which is clearly just rose tinted nostalgia goggles. also the pervading genwunner argument is he never does anything new, when being a competent badass IS new, and it's about damn time.

Adrian Bennett
Adrian Bennett

He's a cool dude who managed to get the hang of his Pokemon. He gets chuuni as fuck while still retaining dignity and doesn't get BTFO everytime while making stupid faces unlike his former self.
That's one way to confirm you're underage.

Adrian Cook
Adrian Cook

tfw no more animated trailers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKmY7tN--mY

Jaxson Bennett
Jaxson Bennett

that's not how it works. he starts new teams because he wants to beat regions legitimately
Why? Are you able to actually explain why without looking stupid? Why is he taking on the same old gym badges challenge that he's done 5-6 times already? So what if it's a different region, it's the same tired shit being regurgitated.

he does take on greater challenges like the battle frontier
Here's an idea: why doesn't he KEEP doing those challenges? Why does he need to win gym badges with weakened teams?

That's right johnny, it's to PROMOTE THE VIDEOGAMES.

Jackson Carter
Jackson Carter

Not to mention that Serena outright tells him the real him is the complete opposite of his OS self.

Charles Turner
Charles Turner

Because that's worse than thinking a loser with no dignity who just crawls around begging for help at every turn? OS Satoshi got in fucking underwear in public and didn't react to it. He has no pride, no temperament, he's basically your average harem MC who has an exaggerate reaction everytime something happens because "it's fun lololo".

OS Satoshi is shit.

Brody Mitchell
Brody Mitchell

Not to mention that Serena outright tells him the real him is the complete opposite of his OS self.
he doesn't know what a retcon is

Angel Carter
Angel Carter

because you have to get 8 regional badges to compete in the league. it's how you prove yourself. ash takes it a step further in proving himself by raising a regional team as well. it improves him as a trainer.

power levels in the show aren't linear and every gym is a different challenge. asking why he continues to challenge himself is a stupid question, and implying that this somehow counteracts his character development is even stupider.

Jose Johnson
Jose Johnson

Yeah, having him behave like a silly 10 year old really was a dumb move by the writers. They should've written him as a flawless genius trainer from the beginning so kids like you could vicariously experience the joy of being a cool trainer.

Owen Thomas
Owen Thomas

OS ash was fitting for OS and XY ash is fitting 6 regions later. you people complain about ash staying the same and then you complain about him maturing. make up your mind.

Adrian Moore
Adrian Moore

The fuck is full Zygarde doing there?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWtBDuxrcS0

Adam Barnes
Adam Barnes

So what? Gary was 10 as well and he was an alpha douchebag. I don't understand the issue.
But now you get why XY Satoshi is what he is. XY Satoshi is the stade he reached after experiencing all of what happened before. He retained the experience and can face challenge properly instead of relying on plot conveniences like pic related.

Aaron Walker
Aaron Walker

because you have to get 8 regional badges to compete in the league
Boring.
Boring.
Boring.

He's done it before and can enter a League again. So fucking what if "it's how you prove yourself", write something better you lazy cunt.

asking why he continues to challenge himself is a stupid question
Completely misconstruing what I say is even stupider. Of course he should keep challenging himself, I'm saying it shouldn't be the same old regurgitated plot.

Because you're an idiot, here's a reality check: Pokemon is a TV Show - TV Shows exist for entertainment - how is it entertaining for Ash to trudge through the same old tired gyms?

The writers keep with this formula because their target audience is japanese kids aged between 6-12, not fat american mongs living in their parents basement like yourself. It exists to sell the games, which is why it mimics the game's story.

Julian Lopez
Julian Lopez

literally deus ex machina

Hunter Jenkins
Hunter Jenkins

XY ash is fitting 6 regions later
So what if it's fitting? He's fucking boring. Ever wonder why great shows end? It's because they get bland and boring after too long. The only people who enjoy characters like this are dumbasses like yourself who just want the same thing over and over again, like people who eat McDonalds.

Caleb James
Caleb James

Where are her tits?

Luis White
Luis White

The issue is you're an idiot who thinks quality of a character is relative to how strong they are. I really hope for your sake you're underage, because if you're still thinking this way as an adult, you're beyond repair.

Matthew Martinez
Matthew Martinez

Not him but why are you in this thread again? You clearly don't like the show. Some of us have no issue with how it's written.

Zachary Ortiz
Zachary Ortiz

That doesn't mean the anime is worse that it was before. Characters are more endearing, the MC has grown up and shows control in a competition anime, the visual aspect and the direction are a hundred times better, the battles are more dynamic and aren't just cookie cutter feat of strength shit, we have both episodic stuff to develop the characters AND mini-arc to get the overarching plot going on. XY is an upgrade on every level. Deal with it.

Jacob James
Jacob James

Love Live:Pkmn Idol Project

topkek

Benjamin Russell
Benjamin Russell

The trailer plays the third ending, which is a duet between a little girl and a grown woman, and is narrated by Misty. The three characters in the trailer are Misty, a little girl and a grown woman (who appears in the movie, voiced by the singer in question).

Michael Parker
Michael Parker

oh my bad, i thought you were asking about plot reasoning, but really it was a leading question for your autistic rant about muh marketing, i.e. the reason anime exists.

you could have just posted this from the start and saved us both the trouble.

Jeremiah Wright
Jeremiah Wright

I'm entitled to express my opinion without participating in your cringe inducing circlejerk, faggot. If you want to engage me, I'm more than happy to oblige with a reply.

Don't like when people express views that conflict with yours? Feel free to fuck off then, because I couldn't care less. You should check out this site called reddit; you're allowed to downvote posts you don't like.

Carter Cox
Carter Cox

He was shitting it up earlier today too. Notice all the deleted posts near the beginning? That was him.

He does this every fucking time there's a Pokemon thread here, it's pretty clear he just hates the idea of them and wants to disrupt whatever discussion is going on.

Bentley Garcia
Bentley Garcia

It's a competition anime. The strongest and smartest will always prevail. We're not in Evangelion where the character were weak-willed on purpose. If you have experienced the world of adults, the REAL working world, you'll know that employers expect people to do their jobs without complaining at every turn. They expect people to be efficient to be worthy of their salary. The adult world is cruel, merciless, and only the best can win. Just like in Pokemon battles.

Justin Martin
Justin Martin

You may be new here but on Sup Forums it's considered cancerous to go in threads about stuff you don't like and blog about how much you don't like it. If you hate it so much just hide the thread and post in one you like.

Your issues with the show seems to be it's very nature. You don't have any issue with the any aspect of it you don't like that it isn't something else.

Juan Ramirez
Juan Ramirez

literally going to thread of a show you don't like to shit it up
I'd fucking have 30 Sup Forums tabs open if I were like you. Consider sudoku.

William Lee
William Lee

shut up with this samefagging paranoia. not every poster you dislike is the same person.

i like how you're complaining that it's the same while at the same time complaining that it's different.

i just said that being a battle master is appropriate at this point. whether you like it or not is up to you.

Tyler Anderson
Tyler Anderson

Characters are more endearing
Based on what? Your opinion? How do you know the characters are more endearing? How do you objectively measure this?

You sound like a classic dumbshit who makes claims without actually understanding them, so I suggest you back up baseless points like this.

the MC has grown up and shows control in a competition anime
So did Goku at the end of Dragon Ball Z; it makes you wonder why they didn't continue that show. He was so powerful and mature, why would anyone stop watching it?

the visual aspect and the direction are a hundred times better
Based on what? Your opinion? How about elaborating on this or is it too difficult for you?

the battles are more dynamic and aren't just cookie cutter feat of strength shit
Yeah it's glaringly apparent you're not very smart. Who cares if they're more dynamic? Diarrhea's more dynamic than a standard log of shit, does that make it better?

we have both episodic stuff to develop the characters AND mini-arc to get the overarching plot going on
Again, how is this a good thing? Stop stating random shit and actually elaborate on how it makes the show better.

XY is an upgrade on every level. Deal with it.
For a moron like yourself, definitely.

Austin Diaz
Austin Diaz

If you don't like a show, you're welcome to stop posting. To be in a thread just to shitpost about the show is being cancerous on Sup Forums. Do you imagine if EVERYBODY did that? Holy shit, properly discussion wouldn't be possible. And it's not a matter of hugbox, it's a matter that discussing properly can only be done with people that like said thing. Do you make your parents watch Pokemon? Do you speak about it with them?
Why the fuck would anyone speak about things with people that don't like said things? You're bothering people. Get off.

Julian Sanders
Julian Sanders

standard anime
So complete shit? You have shitty standards, my man.

Chase Brown
Chase Brown

Yes and you have an IQ of around 60.

Daniel Bennett
Daniel Bennett

why are you asking him to elaborate more than you do? he only owes you as much explanation as you're giving him.

Jack Howard
Jack Howard

NANANANANA YOUR ARGUMENTS MEAN NOTHING TO ME I'M JUST GOING TO SHITPOST
Holy shit, fuck off.

Charles Flores
Charles Flores

If you don't like a show, you're welcome to stop posting
I'm also welcome to keep posting.

Not going to read the rest of your post, you're not worth it.

Jacob Howard
Jacob Howard

It's REALLY fucking clearly the same guy that always comes into these threads to start angry arguments. Come on now. He's been in every single Pokémon thread I've seen on Sup Forums all year and his posting style is always the same.

Anthony Edwards
Anthony Edwards

Sauce it then faggot

Jacob Bailey
Jacob Bailey

Wow, such an argument, I'm blown away by your capacity to refute my calmly worded argument grounded in reality compared to your chuuni delusions. But hey, keep liking a faggot character. Seeing you so attached to him is a proof of self-inserting.

Jace Howard
Jace Howard

So why is he giving far less than what I am? I've made my points clear and concise; this show is boring because it's the same regurgitated plot used solely for marketing. Making baseless, stupid claims like "more endearing" and "battles are more dynamic!" doesn't prove anything.

I figured you were just stupid, thanks for proving it.

Henry White
Henry White

Hahaha, no fucking arguments, just as usual. Reported for shitposting.

Zachary Wright
Zachary Wright

when has OS fag complained about these threads existing? if anything he welcomes them because his ranting is more tolerated here than in /padt/. though to be fair /padt/ shuns any kind of discussion at all.

again stop with this samefag paranoia.

James Watson
James Watson

Fuck off back to /vp/ with this paranoia crap.

Ryan Perry
Ryan Perry

What the fuck am I reading?

Jeremiah Mitchell
Jeremiah Mitchell

I already did here

I know it's you too, your underage posting style is rather obvious. You're not even worth arguing with.

Austin James
Austin James

And liking OS, which has the same plot and everything worse, is okay becauuuuuuse...? Ah yeah, because you said so. Fuck off.

Xavier Gonzalez
Xavier Gonzalez

endearing and dynamic are as detailed an argument as saying development or personality, which is all you've done. you're a huge hypocrite.

Nolan Harris
Nolan Harris

Because it wasn't a regurgitated, exhausted story back then. Couldn't figure that out on your own? I'm not surprised.

Daniel Bell
Daniel Bell

I don't go to /vp/, I'm talking about these threads on Sup Forums. Every single fucking one of them is civil and decent until some pissmad guy comes in and starts shitting them up for hours until he usually gets banned. It's blatantly obvious it's the same guy every time.

Daniel Taylor
Daniel Taylor

I gave my arguments, and you're asking me to go deeper when you yourself are staying at superficial level of "THERE'S MORE EMOTION CAN'T YOU FEEL IT"? No, that's not how it works, shitposter.

So you can watch it again without complaining? It's not really new anymore, is it? You have really poor arguments.

Joseph Watson
Joseph Watson

Because it's a widely accepted fact, dumbass. Even autists who prefer neo-Ash acknowledge OS Ash has a more radiant personality.

Joshua Campbell
Joshua Campbell

To explain the earlier point about why it's considered cancerous on Sup Forums to shitpost in thread about shows you don't like. Think of it like this, why should it be our job to convince you to like the show? If you don't like it that's fine but we don't care, so stop wasting both our times.

Christopher Clark
Christopher Clark

just because he's going through 8 gyms again doesn't mean it's the same show. that's like saying every tournament in dragonball is the same. it's a similar challenge but the battles and stories surrounding it are different.

Aiden Moore
Aiden Moore

Source? Ah, your imaginary friends don't count. I doubt you even have friends.

Aiden Green
Aiden Green

superficial
Don't use this word when you don't know what it means. Superficial happens to be one of the most accurate words used to describe the XY anime, which naturally explains why superficial people like yourself think it's a lot better than it is.

So you can watch it again without complaining?
Way to completely miss the point, dumbass.

For what it's worth, I actually did watch it recently and certainly did find it far more entertaining than the 20-30 XY episodes I've seen. It doesn't change the fact that one of XY's biggest faults is the bland, boring regurgitated nature of the story.

Jayden Hill
Jayden Hill

Try asking /padt/ yourself, dumbass.

Jose Martinez
Jose Martinez

XY's biggest faults is the bland, boring regurgitated nature of the story.
Please give concrete examples.

Jace Brown
Jace Brown

Serena is not just a Pokemon.

Brody Hernandez
Brody Hernandez

Because it's a widely accepted fact, dumbass. Even autists who prefer OS acknowledge XY's characters are more endearing and the battles are more dynamic and interesting.

see how this works yet

Ian Wilson
Ian Wilson

So all in all, you don't like it. Okay, fucking move on.

There's no way to argue with a condescendant idiot like you who cannot differenciate animation and direction.

Elijah Gutierrez
Elijah Gutierrez

it's a similar challenge but the battles and stories surrounding it are different.
Why did people complain about Dragon Ball GT? Or Super right now? It's similar to Dragon Ball Z except the battles and surrounding story are different.

Nathaniel Green
Nathaniel Green

It's possible Serena will stay.

Jordan Ross
Jordan Ross

If there's something bothering you, just try talking to me.
It's been twenty years and my balls still didn't drop.

Alexander Parker
Alexander Parker

a host of reasons, but "it's the same thing" is generally not one of them. please at least try to stay on track.

Colton Flores
Colton Flores

They complain about GT because GT and Super did and are doing some awful development that take the story to an extreme level of stupidity. The conditions aren't the same. Also, they don't like the poor animation of certain episodes. Don't use false examples. Go shitpost on their threads if you don't like repeating shounen stuff.

Brody Bell
Brody Bell

He's collecting 8 badges again
He's still fighting Team Rocket
He's still building a new team each region for no other purpose other than to promote

That pretty much represents the core of XY. If you can't see why people would find that boring, that makes you a superficial person. After all, the only real differences between the OS and XY are glaringly superficial qualities like animation, supporting cast, pokemon etc.

Adrian Collins
Adrian Collins

animation is superficial in ANIME
Hang yourself.

Jacob Rodriguez
Jacob Rodriguez

So all in all, you don't like it. Okay, fucking move on.
Nope, I'm still entitled to express my opinion, even if a crazy dumbass like yourself refuses to accept it.

There's no way to argue with a condescendant idiot
You're right about that, which is why it's impossible to have an argument with you. You're so autistic you can't help but insert insults in every one of your posts. You must have some serious mental issues dude.

Brayden Jones
Brayden Jones

He's fighting 8 new gym battles.
Team Rocket is much less present now, plot device at most. Not as intrusive as before.
He get new Pokemon each new region.

See, now it's new and exciting. You're just biased. And animation is not trivial.

Josiah Brown
Josiah Brown

a host of reasons
Oh, do elaborate. What did GT do wrong that XY did right? I'd love to hear.

James Peterson
James Peterson

characters are a superficial quality
ash himself is superficial

alright dude

Zachary Martinez
Zachary Martinez

We've understood it, it's okay, you've said it again and again. You can go now.

Owen Ward
Owen Ward

Someone should edit this so that rayquaza has a mod text following him as he ends a shitposting discussion.

Nicholas White
Nicholas White

But we get your opinion. You don't have to force it down our throats any more. Seriously what good is this argument? What happens if I convince you Pokemon is a good show or if you convince me it's a bad show? Absolutely nothing. You're wasting our time.

Joseph Miller
Joseph Miller

thighs

Who is this satoshi guy though?

Blake Jackson
Blake Jackson

Firstly, I'm more than entitled to express my bemusement that you're watching a show that repeats itself. Don't like it? Go cry about it.

They complain about GT because GT and Super did and are doing some awful development that take the story to an extreme level of stupidity
Really? Like what? How do you think those problems started?

Also, they don't like the poor animation of certain episodes
Oh but I doubt that. Dragon Ball Z had terrible animation and people still loved that. Alas, it's unsurprising you tried to bring up a superficial quality like this.

Kevin Diaz
Kevin Diaz

You'd know if you watched the anime.

Juan Adams
Juan Adams

The way you're generalizing animation quality, it's rather clear you view it on a superficial level.

Henry Smith
Henry Smith

Noivern is dragon and flying.

Coincidentally, Greninja also knows Aerial Ace, which is also a flying type move.

Isaiah Anderson
Isaiah Anderson

why are you asking me to elaborate on a point i didn't make? i said that the show is not the same, anymore than tournaments in dragonball are the same. please work on your reading comprehension.

Jordan Ramirez
Jordan Ramirez

It's okay, we've understood. You prefer OS. You can go now, this isn't an OS thread.

Benjamin Carter
Benjamin Carter

Clearly you haven't, because time after time you've illustrated a complete lack of understanding over what you're even talking about.

Jonathan Morris
Jonathan Morris

Why don't you tell that to the person hurling insults at anyone (in this particular thread: me) at the mere suggestion that the OS is better than XY? Or that XY is boring.

I would've stopped posting ages ago if everyone just accepted my opinion as you're trying to suggest, but when someone calls you an idiot or an asswipe, I'm more than happy to oblige.

Jordan Young
Jordan Young

A hero.

Jose King
Jose King

this isn't an OS thread.
What? Says who?

As far as I'm concerned, it's a Pokemon anime thread, and people are free to discuss whatever they want so long as it pertains to the Pokemon anime.

Don't like it? Go cry about it.

Logan Gonzalez
Logan Gonzalez

Thinking YOUR opinion must be accepted and agreed on by everyone is cancerous. Fuck off, you self-entitled fuckwit. You don't get to decide what is good and what is not.

Kevin Young
Kevin Young

(Haven't been watching the anime) so his team as of now is pikachu, talonflame, noivern, hawlucha and that mutant greninja? That... Sounds pretty strong? Can we expect him making it to finals this time?

Nathaniel Price
Nathaniel Price

please work on your reading comprehension.
I suggest you take your own advice, because it seems you haven't been reading properly at all. I'll make myself clear again though.

Good shows end because if they go on for too long, they get boring. Forget Dragon Ball, why didn't Fullmetal Alchemist continue? Who cares if the main story ended, because with a great cast of characters, they could just regurgitate the same plot right? What about Yu Yu Hakusho? Why did that end? The manga should have continued with Yusuke as a Spirit Detective, there's no way it could get boring, right?

It begs the question, why do these shows end, but Pokemon doesn't? What is your answer to this?

Gavin Bailey
Gavin Bailey

tfw made the original version of this six months ago to piss off the Dutchfag when he was spamming the start of every thread with it
now a bunch of other people use it

feels good

Colton Reyes
Colton Reyes

the irony of this post is hilarious because "collecting 8 badges" is the superficial quality. on the surface it's the same premise but the stories and characters surrounding that premise are different, as well as Ash himself growing each season.

of course you're completely okay acknowleding those differences when they work in your favor in bitching about the show.

Dylan Anderson
Dylan Anderson

Sorry, but I never thought that. Sounds like your projecting your highly autistic personality onto others.

It must really pain you to see people challenging your autistic beliefs.

Adrian Flores
Adrian Flores

so his team as of now is pikachu, talonflame, noivern, hawlucha and that mutant greninja?
And a Goodra he "released" a while ago that's heavily hinted to be coming back for the league.

Jordan Roberts
Jordan Roberts

on the surface it's the same premise but the stories and characters surrounding that premise are different
I don't think you understand what superficial means if you're trying to preach the differences of XY's storylines. Down to the core, it's the same shit, the same character arcs, the same everything really.

of course you're completely okay acknowleding those differences
Superficial differences, kid.

Grayson Wright
Grayson Wright

Yeah.

Read these for the latest infodumps:
/vp/thread/26500532#p26500570
/vp/thread/26500532#p26500580
/vp/thread/26500532#p26500590
/vp/thread/26500532#p26500598

Noah Sanchez
Noah Sanchez

I'm enjoying myself too.

Nathan Morales
Nathan Morales

No, it's superficially the same but it's actually different. I'm genuinely surprised you described Satoshi getting new Pokemon as "old and boring", as if him keeping his old Pokemon would be less boring.

Eli Howard
Eli Howard

cross linking
Fuck off.

Colton Scott
Colton Scott

because pokemon is a massively longrunning series on the level of dragonball, one piece or detective conan. what kind of stupid ass question is this? some shows just keep going. you claim pokemon is forever the same but your only reasoning is the context of gyms and leagues. that's why i said that by that logic you could argue every tournament in shonenshit is the same, but we all know that's not true.

Liam Lopez
Liam Lopez

No, it's superficially the same but it's actually different
jej, mind elaborating on that? Your next sentence didn't.

Nathan Reyes
Nathan Reyes

Feel free to quote my little cute post right here It's the Swiss Knife answer to this sperglord.

Ryan Harris
Ryan Harris

She's a default that's why

SM is going to expand the customisation of XY a huge amount most likely

Camden Russell
Camden Russell

why did manga adaptations end while an anime-original with multiple writers continues?
You can't seriously be this retarded.

Robert Jones
Robert Jones

I don't understand what there is to explain. It's not like he fight the same 8 gyms over and over.

Henry Carter
Henry Carter

because pokemon is a massively longrunning series on the level of dragonball, one piece or detective conan
You're missing the point dumbass, but now that you mention those, do you know why they're long running?

Ayden Nelson
Ayden Nelson

Honest question, why are you even replying to this guy? He's clearly just here to shitpost and you're giving him the replies he wants..

Eli Howard
Eli Howard

yfw he loses to Misty in the league

Bentley Martin
Bentley Martin

Wait, you're saying long running series' continue because they're not manga adaptations? How fucking retarded are you man?

Detective Conan's a manga adaptation that's still going and it's older than Pokemon. The fuck does being a manga have to do with anything?

Gavin Moore
Gavin Moore

because they're still marketable. why are you acting like market value and quality are mutually exclusive?

also you're changing the subject again. your point was repetition and i told you why that's bullshit. if you're going to keep moving the goalpost then you can fuck off.

Sebastian Rivera
Sebastian Rivera

No, I'm here to have a discussion. It's not my fault you're too dumb to engage in one.

Carson Perez
Carson Perez

Cool I guess. No idea how they presented goodra in the show but judging by it's appearance it could be anything between a killer and a crybaby. Did it do any good in battles before?

Thanks for the infodumps. I liked the hell out of Sinnoh league. I know it's kind of juvenile but when you got cool battles, friendship power and dramatic music in pokemon it always kind of gets me. Let's hope for something good.

Hunter Lopez
Hunter Lopez

No idea how they presented goodra in the show but judging by it's appearance it could be anything between a killer and a crybaby.
/vp/ gave it the nickname "John Rambo". Try guessing.

Did it do any good in battles before?
It was a fucking beast

Xavier Carter
Xavier Carter

Something written by a single author has less of a chance to go on indefinitely than something written by multiple authors. Same difference as manga vs comics. Detective Conan is an outlier.

Jace Wilson
Jace Wilson

marketable
There's the magic word. Why bother writing a quality, original story when you can make more dough by writing the same old rubbish?

also you're changing the subject again
No, not really at all.

your point was repetition and i told you why that's bullshit
You certainly didn't. Now that you've mentioned marketability, you're effectively saying this show doesn't exist to tell a story, but to promote merchandise for kids.

if you're going to keep moving the goalpost then you can fuck off.
Pot kettle

Austin Johnson
Austin Johnson

Man, the Kalos league is crazy. Both the tournament and the gyms. Crazy powerful mega evolved pokémon everywhere. And Ash barely manages to win even with his broken as fuck frog. Can you imagine if XY Ash challenged the Kanto or Johto league? There'd be no competition, he'd obliterate them.

Eli Mitchell
Eli Mitchell

Something written by a single author has less of a chance to go on indefinitely than something written by multiple authors
My, how informative! Mind providing that evidence I'm sure you have?

Hudson Powell
Hudson Powell

See for Goodra

Asher Thompson
Asher Thompson

Get this smug bitchy hypocrite out of my face.

Jayden King
Jayden King

The manga series you've mentioned, every other long-running manga with an anime adaptation barring the very longest-running ones like Conan, One Piece, Golgo13 and a few others vs anime originals with multiple writers like Pokémon, Sazae-san and Doraemon, or literally every American comic that's gone on longer than the run by its original author.

Logan Gomez
Logan Gomez

stop putting words in my mouth you insipid faggot. you're the one saying quality and marketablity are mutually exclusive, and that's just your personal autism. what's objectively refutable is the show being the same just because the context of each season is similar. if context is the only thing you understand then i'm not surprised you miss the point so easily.

Mason Kelly
Mason Kelly

No.

Grayson Cook
Grayson Cook

doraemon
anime original

Charles Smith
Charles Smith

You can't prove OS is better than anything.
You just simply can't. If you can't do something, you can't have a discussion about it.

Lincoln Hill
Lincoln Hill

you're the one saying quality and marketablity are mutually exclusive
They certainly are. No intelligent person would say a glorified advertisement is a high quality anime. Then again, you're a dumbass.

and that's just your personal autism. what's objectively refutable
Yet you haven't been able to refute it, at all.

the rest of your idiotic post
Seems you've forgotten my original point.

The show's boring, the regurgitated plot contributes no this, and no, context doesn't make it any less boring.

Lincoln Gutierrez
Lincoln Gutierrez

You can't prove OS is better than anything
I certainly can't prove it to someone as dense and autistic as yourself, not that I ever thought I could.

Logan Murphy
Logan Murphy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg5P7rRGp5w

Zachary Thomas
Zachary Thomas

That means the whole thread, so don't ever come to the threads if the thread won't listen to you.

Joseph Turner
Joseph Turner

it's shit because I say so: the post

pretty much all of your posts are like this, which is why the only argument i bothered responding to is the one about repetition.

you haven't responded properly to , in that you didn't refute the fact that the arcs are different despite contextual similarities. it's the same for pokemon. whether you personally like it or not is a different point that i don't give a shit about.

Wyatt Rivera
Wyatt Rivera

Do you guys think his Goodra will come back for the League or will he catch a new Pokemon?

Isaiah Roberts
Isaiah Roberts

Nope, I'm still entitled to express my views whether you like it or not.

Anthony Sanchez
Anthony Sanchez

i think his point is that you personally can't prove it because all of your arguments boil down "it's shit/good because i say so" and "reee my opinion, stop oppressing my opinion, i'm entitled to my opinion which intrinsically has more value than yours."

Aiden Phillips
Aiden Phillips

You are, but why bother if the thread won't listen to you? What's the purpose?

Kayden Adams
Kayden Adams

I've already explained why it's shit numerous times, and the repeating nature of the show only compounds it. Not my fault you're dumb enough to eat up the same thing over and over and over and over again.

just because he's going through 8 gyms again doesn't mean it's the same show
You still haven't elaborated beyond highlighting the most superficial of qualities, dumbass.

Camden Carter
Camden Carter

Goodra is more or less completely confirmed to be back.

Blake Murphy
Blake Murphy

how are characters and plots superficial?

Jacob Cook
Jacob Cook

I've made my arguments clear numerous times, you've just failed miserably at comprehending them. Sorry you were that dull.

reee
Ok, so on top of being a dumbass, you're also a crossboarder. Makes sense.

Ian Rivera
Ian Rivera

What's the purpose of replying?

What's the purpose of Sup Forums?

What's the purpose of having a discussion on the internet?

I keenly await your answers.

Wyatt Thomas
Wyatt Thomas

You sound like you're from /v/ to be honest. You can't imagine a discussion that doesn't entail telling people to stop liking what you don't like.

Jose Parker
Jose Parker

They certainly are.
The original series that you seem to think so was great was extremely marketable. Do you think it flopped or something? Are you an idiot?

Easton Reed
Easton Reed

No limit to how dull you are, is there? It's pretty obvious you don't know what superficial means given you were dumb enough to ask something like "how are characters and plots" superficial.

Characters/Plots/Whatever can be observed on both a superficial and a thoughtful level; your observations clearly fall into the former.

Chase Wood
Chase Wood

Right now? So you will understand that your views are useless if nobody will agree with you.

The purpose is to argue with people about stuff that is possible to reach a conclusion.

So you can change their views.

You can't do any of this, so the best course of action is to not come to the threads.

Jace Jenkins
Jace Jenkins

I don't care where an autistic dumbass like yourself thinks I'm from, because at the end of the day, you're just an autistic dumbass. Water off a duck's back.

Andrew Allen
Andrew Allen

great
Not really, just better than XY, and a lot of that comes down to charm.

Yes the OS was a marketing device, but it was a good, fun marketing device. The problem with you autists praising XY is that you keep trying to convince people that Pokemon has finally "gotten good" as if it's now comparable with other anime. Sorry, it was never good.

Joshua Wright
Joshua Wright

Would they be useful if people agreed with me?

Do you worry about the size of your e-penis? It sounds like you have quite the internet ego.

I don't care whether or not people agree with me, that won't stop me from engaging in an argument.

Sebastian Gomez
Sebastian Gomez

you're just an autistic dumbass
You're the one who's been having a useless argument all this time though. Literally wasting your own time.

Jeremiah Brown
Jeremiah Brown

clear is not the same as sound. all your arguments are the same opinionated bullshit of which you accuse others.

if you observe them on a superficial level then they are superficial

yes, no shit. that's what you're doing. you can easily categorize them into femcee, male support, friend, rival, mentor etc, but their actual personalities, motivations, dynamics and arcs are different.

you are only contradicting your own argument here.

Brody Fisher
Brody Fisher

You're the one who's been having a useless argument all this time though
But that's exactly what you've been doing.

Nolan Campbell
Nolan Campbell

But I don't pretend I have the high ground.

Joshua Fisher
Joshua Fisher

and you still won't elaborate. Good try dumb dumb, but you never had it in you.

Andrew Phillips
Andrew Phillips

The high ground? What the fuck are you talking about? Is your aspergers really this severe?

Logan Adams
Logan Adams

You might accomplish something if they did.

I'm not the one trying to make my views known even if nobody will care.

There is no point on engaging in an argument that can't be winned.

Jace Ortiz
Jace Ortiz

You might accomplish something if they did.
Accomplish something? On Sup Forums? An anonymous imageboard? Are you stupid or something?

David Lee
David Lee

You're calling me an autist as a pejorative but you've been doing exactly what you've been accusing me of being an autist for.

Samuel Rodriguez
Samuel Rodriguez

Holy fuck this is almost 10/10 animation

Ayden Gomez
Ayden Gomez

bump limit
Later dudes.

Carson Long
Carson Long

No, I mean for yourself. You might be able to feel better with yourself if you win something, anything. But you can't do that here.

Gabriel Nelson
Gabriel Nelson

the thread is going to die, but if you can't see the difference between misty and serena, brock and clemont, gary and shota, team rocket and team flare, or OS ash and XY ash, then there is no point, and you're not convincing anyone who actually watches the show.

Elijah Parker
Elijah Parker

This thread needs more Dawn.

Ryan Green
Ryan Green

How's this?

Asher Price
Asher Price

thinking isn't like me at all

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